Trope Pantheons Discussion

Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

Donnietu from Stockton, CA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

#75526: Aug 9th 2016 at 4:32:17 PM

@shatterstar: No mention of Tony Montana? I mean, the two look alike. Or Vito Corleone, who would mistake him for his son Michael.

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012

Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.

#75527: Aug 9th 2016 at 4:50:09 PM

Guess the question is anyone who could turn people into animals?

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#75528: Aug 9th 2016 at 4:51:33 PM

Brightwing

@Ronnie I'm pretty sure we told you that Tommy technically no longer fits that

Uni cat

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#75529: Aug 9th 2016 at 4:53:13 PM

Dark Marik again. Yes, I know that his body was Marik's, but here me out please. The thing about Split-Personality Takeover is that it isn't about getting a new body. It's about hijacking the "original's" body and taking control of it. Which he did. Also, we already have Katara and Aang simultaneously in the pantheon, despite it having the opposite issue of the same soul inhabiting different beings. Finally, just in case this isn't enough remember that Marik's Shadow Game did allow him and his alternate personality to exist physically different from one another

Alright, with that in mind, are you guys accepting of my Dark Marik proposal?

Dark Marik, God of Split Personality Takeovers (Yami Marik, Malik, Melvin)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/image_06.png

House: Personalities
Lesser God(Intermediate with the Millennium Rod)
Symbol: The glowing Eye of Wdjat, or a concealed dagger
Theme Song: This
Alignment: Chaotic Evil
Portfolio: Nucking Futs, Split Personalities Gone Rogue, Deranged Animation, Torture Through Shadow Games(because why not?), Dark Is Evil, Extreme Psychopathy, Maniac Tongue, Tainted Veins, Loves To Inflict and Receive Pain, Relies Mainly on Brute Force, Devolves From a Lunatic Villain To Slavering Animal, Kill and Kill Until Nothing's Left, NOT FUNNY
Domains: Torture, Darkness, Sadism, Insanity, Card Games
Followers: The Hollows, Mr Clever, Shiro
Allies: Kefka, Asdrubael Vect, Skarlet, Pudge, Nobuyuki Sugou, Malboro, Ridley, The Wither, Johan Liebert, Dark Danny, Freddy Krueger
Commonality Connection with: Mr Hyde
Enemies: Marik Ishtar (his alter ego), Rishid (his adoptive "brother"), Yugi Mutou, The Other Yugi, Anzu Mazaki, Seto Kaiba, Exodia, (really, any Yu-Gi-Oh deity), Yveltal, Anivia, Ho-oh, The Kid, Asuka Langley, Shinji Ikari, Darkrai, Satellizer El Bridget, Anakaris, Ramses II, Alex Mason, James Sunderland, Renekton, Dr Hax, Sakura Matou
Opposes: The House of Technology
Opposed by: Zubat, good-aligned members of the House of Gaming
Scares: The abusive parents of the pantheon
The world of Yu-Gi-Oh is known for having more...aggressive alternate personas, but Dark Marik takes the cake. The abuse Marik's father inflected on Marik Ishtar, combined with his resentment at his tombkeeper tendencies, would birth a sadomasochistic alter ego to protect himself. Seeing Rishid wounded caused that alter ego to burst out, killing their father and attempting to usurp the normal Marik's control. It would not be until ten years later on that with Rishid's maiming, Dark or Yami Marik would initiate a Split-Personality Takeover. To date, Yugi and his friends have never faced a darker adversary.
- Dark Marik was initially stripped from the physical realm, doomed to wander in darkness as Normal Marik's discarded shadow. When the TV world entered the pantheon, he finally had a chance to return to reality. So far, his godhood is the only thing keeping him in physical reality, but he hopes to remedy this by re-possessing Marik.
- Noticed to sound collected, almost tauntingly amiable in Japanese. Whenever he speaks in English, he comes with a Voice of the Legion and seeks to Take Over the World; most likely to wreck it of course.
Dark Marik found a kindred spirit Dark Danny. Like him, Dark Danny is an evil alter ego given life and dominance, who constantly seeks to overwhelm his good side. They're also totally Ax-Crazy loons who wish to lay waste to everything they can get their hands on. The two have joined to cause chaos and death throughout the pantheon, loving every moment of it.
- Notices he's very similar to Mr Hyde, and is wondering if there's any correlation between the two.
- Intrigued with Sakura Matou, specifically her Angra Mainyu side. He's trying to bring it out and reek unholy havoc in the pantheon.
Given his association with cheating in games, he's on Dr Hax's hit list, above the other Ghouls and Rare Hunters. Dark Marik isn't too concerned with him however.
- Being born of normal Marik's resentment has led Dark Marik to target any and every pharaoh he can get his hands on. All of them are horrified by the likes of Dark Marik, and will team up to stop them.
Dark Marik is an utter Combat Sadomasochist, but rather than physical torture or casual Mind Rape he prefers Shadow Games. Losing life points can mean losing pieces of yourself, memory loss, sadistic choices or simple psychic torture. Don't expect him to care much, since he loves the pain. He's teamed up with Nobuyuki Sugou to cause suffering on a new level to the House of Gaming.
- Though a strong duelist in his own right, he's not that skilled. He mainly uses his Shadow Games to help, and would've lost without them to Joey. His ace in the hole(and arguably his Achilles' Heel) is the Winged Dragon of Ra, whom he likes to fuse with in battle. Dark Marik seeks to control the other phoenixes in the pantheon in order to replace the Winged Dragon of Ra.
- Asides from the Winged Dragon of Ra, Dark Marik focuses on monsters that cause long, drawn out deaths due to his extreme sadism. Malboro's poisoning and the Wither's griefer nature help him with his bloodlust, so he may burn the House of Gaming and laugh at the ashes.
Dark Marik has been incredibly frustrated by The Kid, who keeps managing to out-maneuver and survive his sadistic games. He's currently studying works like the Kaizo Mario mods to make the ultimate platform Shadow Game even he cannot escape.
- Has teamed up with Freddy Krueger out of their shared For the Evulz interest. Dark Marik would help make things a living hell during the day, while Freddy torments people during the night. Both are trying to take out Darkrai for interfering with them.
Dark Marik's particularly fond of Mind Rape as a form of torture whenever not able to play Shadow Games, and always makes sure to use it 'when'' playing Shadow Games. When seeing Satellizer El Bridget, he noticed she Hates Being Touched and made the illusion of insects crawling around her and eating her body. He also noticed Shinji and Asuka's experience with insanity and Mind Rape, thus seeking to psychologically torture them. They've sworn to get even at him for this.
- Utilizes outright mind control whenever he has the Millennium Rod, putting him against James Sunderland, Alex Mason and Renekton due to combined it with messing with memories or some form of torture.
- Impressed by Johan Liebert's More than Mind Control abilities, and hopes to cause anguish and pain with him. He's suggested Johan should utilize psychic powers, but Johan refused as he thinks it takes the fun out of it. Dark Marik doesn't understand it, but concedes it's useful.
Unlike his good counterpart, Dark Marik has difficulty understanding modern technology, particularly machine-operated doors. He does seem to like robots though, since it lets him be as violent as he wants as they don't bleed.
- While psychic torture and pain is always going to be his forte, Dark Marik does enjoy traditional Cold-Blooded Torture and as such often visits the House of Slaughter. He gets along well with Pudge and Skarlet. Dark Marik is also fascinated by the Dark Eldar's torture methods, feeling there's much to learn from Asdrubael Vecht.
- Dark Marik enjoys the darkness and caves, but he's found a Zubat infestation in the ones in his temple. The Zubats may cause suffering, but it's of the annoying type and not his style.
To differentiate himself from his good side, Dark Marik sometimes calls himself Melvin and claims he's Marik's imaginary friend. Served as a spy for 4Kids of all groups in order to shut down Little Kuriboh.
- Has decided to replace the knife of the Millennium Rod with a red lightsaber. Also has become a fan of "hugs" to cover for his psychotic murders. Most don't fall for it, but a few are Too Dumb to Live anyway.

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#75530: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:00:10 PM

Still say it's a iffy choice.

RonnieR15 Ronnie from Earth Since: May, 2013

Ronnie

#75531: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:16:15 PM

@ Fasoman 1996: Actually I was told to wait and see if Nickelodeon is actually going to revive the Rugrats series first. I also originally planed on discussing him again after I finished Jack Horner, The Graboids and maybe one other character since I really don't want to have another huge argument about profiles for a while.

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012

Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.

#75532: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:24:42 PM

Kuzco, God of Llamas (Emperor Kuzco)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/the_emperors_new_groove_59bff3fa.jpg

As a human

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kuzco_llama.png

As a llama

Quasideity
Symbol: His crown and gown
Theme Song: Perfect World
Alignment: Formerly Neutral Evil, currently True Neutral with Neutral Good tendency
Portfolio: Very self-centered, The Emperor of the Incan, Royal Brat, Transformed into a llama, Prideful Humiliation, The Caligula, Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist, "no touchy"
Allies: Naveen, Beast, Sully
Enemies: Lion, Catwoman
Opposes: Bright wing
Kuzco was a selfish emperor until he was transformed into a llama by his recently-fired adviser Yzma. When Kronk tried to dispose him, he somehow got into a cart driven by a man named Pacha and had to return home to change himself back. He receive much help from Pacha to return back to human after he needed to get his attitude checked.
Jimmy Neutron knew that his friend, Carl Wheezer, would be excited with Kuzco as he loved llamas. Of course, if Carl were here and tried to hug him, he wouldn't appreciated it.
Kuzco was transformed into a llama through a magic potion and when he found out that there are people who could transformer others, he's not happy since he was also transformed multiple times with no benefits. At the very least, he got used to being a llama for being stuck as one for days.
Kuzco befriended Sully, despite being a monster. It is because Sully's kindness and his voice is a lot like a friend of his, Pacha.
Stan, Kyle, Cartman, and Kenny showed some respect toward the Emperor so that he doesn't summon giant guinea pigs at them. Kuzco probably doesn't care about their explanation of why they respect them.
Doesn’t like Catwoman as her voice sometimes reminds him of Yzma.
He hangs out with both Naveen and the Beast since they were once self-absorbed royals who were transformed into different creatures and change back to humans after learning to be a better person.
He was once a follower to Gilgamesh but he has since rebelled against him.

Phoenix, The Divine Fire Bird (Icarus)

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Greater God
Symbol: Supernova/His Star Form
Alignment: True Neutral
Portfolio: The Phoenix, Icarus Dive, Fire Spirit, Sun Ray, Supernova, Abilities cost HP, Actually a star, Gradual Grinder, Kill It with Fire, The Power of the Sun, Cool Mask
Domains: Fire, Phoenix
Allies: Princess Celestia, Solaire of Astora
Rivals: The Champion of Runeterra, especially Anivia
Enemies: Night Stalker
Phoenix was a physical form of a star many generations after the Keeper of the Light's first sun. It found itself in the War of the Ancients when he see the world in need of it's light.
The temple was once filled with the destructive energies of Yveltal, but it has since seeded itself into the House of Life And Death, ironically in the House of Life And Creation. Since, the Phoenix have founded it's way into the Pantheon and roosted in the temple, shining it with its light.
Kael'thas had the power to summon phoenixes on his own. Speaking of which, it was said that Phoenix once resembled the phoenixes summoned by Blood Mages.

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#75533: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:27:53 PM

So, I'm fairly new (only about 4 weeks in TV tropes) and I'm curious: With people like Light Yagami, who can kill people by writing their name, and Nekron, who can kill and seize control of people who have come back to life, how does death work in the Pantheon? Because realistically, all sorts of characters would be dropping dead left and right, and a system of punishment wouldn't stop people like Lelouch vi Britannia from controlling someone else to kill someone. What happens if Light writes "Bruce Wayne" in the death note or Lelouch commands Palpatine to die?

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Darkness' old friend

#75534: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:28:16 PM

Moltres and Fujiwara no Mokou both have phoenix symbolism.

Any suggestions or advice on how I can improve Makie?

Makie Sasaki, Goddess of Passionate Sports Girls (Armatura Quinquiplex, Baka Pink, Pink Albatross, Biblio Pink Tulip)

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Lesser Goddess
Alignment: Chaotic Good, Occasionally dips into Stupid Good
Symbol: Makie's Liberum Lemniscus, Bombus Globus, Frango Stipes, Cleaving Ring and Capturing Rope
Portfolio: Passionate Sports Girl, Genki Girl, Rose-Haired Sweetie, The Ditz, Sensual Spandex, Global Ignorance, Girlish Pigtails, Global Ignorance, Ms. Fanservice, Smarter Than You Look, Super Gullible, Butt-Monkey
Domains: School, Sports, Magic
Allies: (Mahora Academy): Negi Springfield, Asuna Kagurazaka, Konoka Konoe and Setsuna Sakurazaki, Nodoka Miyazaki, Yue Ayase, Evangeline A.K McDowell, Kaede Nagase, Mana Tatsumiya
- (Others): Nepgear, Millhiore Filiano Biscotti, Ayu Tsukimiya, Hitomi, Alisa Bosconovitch, Yutaka Kobayakawa, Shinobu Omiya, Itsuki Myoudouin, Nagisa Misumi, Saki Hyuga, Nao Midorikawa, Hibiki Hojo, Akane Hino, Kirin Morino,
Makie loves gymnastics and we mean, REALLY loves gymnastics so much so that she's put all her efforts into being amazing at gymnastics that she can't score well on a test worth a shit.
- Due to her passion for gymnastics, Makie gets along great with other deities who also have a love for a certain sport such as Itsuki Myoudouin, Nagisa Misumi, Nao Midorikawa, Akane Hino, Saki Hyuga, Hibiki Hojo and Kirin Morino.
Whenever you need Makie to stay in one position for a long time, just tell her "You fail at being Makie!" Doing so will cause her to stay in the same position for a very long time, Makie once held a yoga position for an entire day and didn't move an inch.
Makie gets along well with Nepgear, Millhiore Filiano Biscotti, Ayu Tsukimiya and Hitomi due to sharing certain vocal similarities with all of them.
One time, Makie went to the house of theatre to ask some of the deities there if they'd make a movie about Baka Pink but she was quickly rejected as its content wouldn't be suitable for any audiences, regardless of age.
- This caused Makie to storm out of the house of theatre and attempt to make her own movie with no prior knowledge on how to do so, and just like the house of theatre suspected, it contained things that should not be seen by anyone else's eyes.
Due to her kindness combined with her pink hair Makie gets along well with Alisa Bosconovitch and Yutaka Kobayakawa.
Makie gets along surprisingly well with Shinobu Omiya due to the both of them share Global Ignorance of the locations of European countries. Makie and Shinobu were both very surprised to learn that England and France were both parts of the same continent.

edited 9th Aug '16 5:28:36 PM by rin14100

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#75535: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:29:20 PM

It almost has a Death Is Cheap sorta mentality in the Pantheon since there are heroes, villains, and other people who are ascended, even though they died in their original universe. It could be confusing at times. Also, welcome to the forums.

What is the latter like exactly?

edited 9th Aug '16 5:34:27 PM by mariovsonic999

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#75536: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:32:31 PM

Make Francine Frensky from Arthur her High Priestess.

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#75537: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:37:37 PM

Second draft for Shylock:

Shylock, the Greedy Jewish God Who Was Fair for Its Day

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/shylock.jpg

Potential House: Commerce, Faith, Narrative (not sure which subhouse)
Theme Song: "Shylock Broken"
Symbol: A red hat and a scruffy bear
Quasideity
Alignment: Lawful Neutral usually, Chaotic Neutral whenever his daughter Jessica is involved.
Domain: Wealth, Family, Faith
Portfolio: Greedy Jew, Values Dissonance, Fair for Its Day, Loan Shark, Morally Bankrupt Banker, Ensemble Dark Horse to Breakout Villain, lives but renounce his religion and wealth to Jessica who married a Christian, delivered a heartwrenching speech standing up to Antonio, demands a pound of Antonio's flesh because Jessica elopes with Antonio's Christian friend, lost his daughter, his fortune, his property and his religion at the end of the play, Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain, on the receiving end of an Esoteric Happy Ending, Jerkass Woobie
Allies: Ethan and Hila Klein, Kyle Broflovski, Scrooge McDuck, Erik Lensherr / Magneto, any non-German soldiers from WW II, Othello, Vito Corleone, Tony Montana
Enemies: Any Nazi in the Pantheon, German soldiers participated in WW II, Ramses, Frollo, George Bailey, Ebenezer Scrooge, YHVH, Eric Cartman
Superior: William Shakespeare
Pitied by: Esmeralda, Quasimodo, anyone who lost their spouse, many parents in the Pantheon
Complicated Relationship with: Many Christians in the Pantheon
Worship: Go d, Moses
High Priest: Barabas
Opposed by: Jean-Luc Picard, Worf
The Jewish banker that faced many prejudice because of his faith from Antonio and trying to inflict horrific revenge on the Merchant, Shylock was found by many of his superior's admirer William Shakespeare to present in front of the Pantheon. After concluding that he was one of the most famous instant of the first trope and one of Shakespeare's most controversial work for the latter (especially for its ending), Shylock was ascended into the Pantheon.
HATES Frollo with a passion for the latter's hypocrisy, prejudice and crime against the Romani. This and his backstory earned him major point with Esmeralda and Quasimodo as both were discriminated against in the past, even though they don't agree with Shylock's action.
Has an incredible complicated relationship with many Christians in the Pantheon due to the fact that he was screwed over by pretty much every single Christians in his time as a mortal. The only things they agree on is their share hatred on Frollo, that God is someone who is worthy of their faith and YHVH is NOT.
Is one of the few people who has a conflicted relationship with their superior / creator because of Shylock's tragic ending that was presented horribly as a happy one.
Despises every Nazi in the Pantheon because of their propaganda using him and his temple to encourage their idea. He has now been funding and giving out loan to any soldiers who fight the Nazi.
- Because of their share hatred for Nazis, their share religion and anti-hero/anti-villain status, Shylock made friends with Magneto.
Made friend with many other Jewish characters in the Pantheon such as Kyle, Hila Klein and her husband (even though she isn't that religious) while frequently visit Moses's place to worship him. His religion and worshipping of Moses also made him hates Ramses.
- From Kyle, he found out that Eric Cartman is incredibly antisemitic towards the kid and declare Eric an enemy.
While later adaptations tend to make him more sympathetic, nobody can deny that he is a shady banker in every single ones of them. This made him enemy with George Bailey (for also facing against one) and Ebenezer Scrooge (for reminding him too much of himself) while made Shylock friendly with the other Scrooge, who agree with his philosophy.
He gathered A LOT of sympathy by people who lost their spouses and many parents in the Pantheon for the fact that his daughter betrayed him by marrying his enemy, renounce her faith to run away with said enemy while also stole his money and a ring from his deceased wife - the only he has left to remind himself of her, to trade for a monkey. Although the majority of them don't agree with his actions, not many of them can say that Shylock didn't have good reason for doing so.
Gets along well with Othello for both created by Shakespeare and the fact they were both discriminated against. The fact that they have many look-a-like also helps, even though Shylock usually apologizes for Othello for them being blackface.
Gets along disturbingly well with Vito Corleone not only for their shady business but also the fact that Shylock reminds him of his son Michael. Rumors that he has been taking some work from Vito is neither confirmed nor denied by both party.
- He also gets along with one of his look-a-like Tony Montana who feels sorry for his situation. However, the two of them had an interesting meeting because he also sometimes looks like Tony's enemy Omar.
Shylock and Picard had a surprise of a lifetime when the two of them accidentally met and found out that not only he looks like Picard, but also one of his enemy Ahdar. Picard and Worf don't approve of Shylock's action but sympathetic for his motivation.
Shylock's famous speech was carved into the front of his temples and was used by many Jew as motivation to fight against Nazis and antisemitics in the Pantheon:
- I am a Jew! Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, heal'd by the same means, warm'd and cool'd by the same winter and summer, as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?

Edit: Repeat the question from last page: Is it OK for me to reserve Death by Adaptation for King Lear and Cordelia?

@ Zero L: Welcome to the Pantheon.

From my POV, he doesn't live through the war, so he doesn't have any feeling for the soldier. The only thing he hates is the antisemitism from it and the fact that they used him as a propaganda piece against Jew, so he hates Nazis (including My Country, Right or Wrong German WW II soldiers) and willing to loan money to people who fought against them.

edited 9th Aug '16 5:49:16 PM by shatterstar

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#75538: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:42:02 PM

I'm sorry if this seems like pedantry, but shouldn't Shylock only be the enemy of German, Italian, and Japanese WWII soldiers, not just all WWII soldiers? For example, Captain America would be his enemy if it were not limited.

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#75539: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:49:44 PM

In general, Death Is Cheap and everyone is brought back eventually. Although there are a few exceptions that follow the rule differently

@Shylock I think he should in Character Writing if you want to put him in Narrative

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#75540: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:50:48 PM

@shatterstar: Shylock should have some interaction with Jo March, whom he would mistake for Portia. (Katharine Hepburn, who played Jo March in the 1933 film version of Little Women, also played Portia in a stage production of The Merchant of Venice)

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rin14100 Darkness' old friend from The Guatemala City Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared

Darkness' old friend

#75541: Aug 9th 2016 at 5:59:11 PM

@Mvs: Mokou has fire powers and achieved immortality after drinking the Hourai elixir.

In times of trouble, turn to the Devil for guidance.

Patrickthekid Since: Sep, 2015

#75542: Aug 9th 2016 at 6:04:14 PM

Finally found rhe time to work on these two.

Schneider, The God Sealed in a Child (Darsh)

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Potential House: Physical Appearance
Theme Song: Scraper Sky High
Overdeity (Quasideity as Luche Len-Len)
Symbol:
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral with evil tendencies
Portfolio: Anti Anti Christ, Anti-Hero, Clothing Damage, Cute Little Fangs, Destructive Saviour, The Fighting Narcissist, Gorn, Handsome Lech, Lecherous Licking, Nigh-Invulnerable, One-Man Army, Rated M for Manly, Really 700 Years Old
Domains: Chaos, Destruction, Magic
Allies: Slaanesh
Rivals: Jon Osterman/Dr. Manhattan
Enemies:
Opposes:
Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Guts
Many deities were on high alert on the arrival of this deity. Luche Len-Len may not look like much of a threat, but the spirit that is sealed within him may well be one of the most powerful beings yet. The boy hoped that the Pantheon can keep him at check for the time being, a task that will be difficult to pull off.
- How powerful is he? His primary means of defense seems to be a shield spell called "Dispel Bound", which produces a number of shields to block any attack aimed at him. Each shield can take up to the force of a nuclear blast before breaking. And they can only be targeted one at a time. And they auto-regenerate. And he can repair them manually at positively absurd speeds. And in the unlikely event that you manage to get through that, you have to deal with his durability which allows him to take attacks that can destroy galaxies. And should you somehow manage to pierce these defenses, he possesses obscenely powerful healing abilities (of the sort that makes Wolverine look like a girl scout) and finally, he still can't be killed unless you destroy his body, spirit and soul in three different dimensions at the same time.
The only faction that truly has to worry about him is Melkor and his forces. Luche Len-Len convinced him that he can at least test his might on the roster, to the Supreme Dark Lord's horror. Any attempt to join the GUAG has been denied by Schneider. Even the other heroes see him as off putting.
Instead, Schneider has taken a liking to the GUAC. He even got to meet their leader Lucifer, someone who shares the same name as the Devil in his world. Lucifer for his part hopes to recruit D.S. into the fold against Luche Len-Len's wishes
Guts may respect him as one of the premier AntiHeros, but is is still wary of his company. He cat at least convince D.S. to fight demons if only to prove he is more powerful than them.
Hopes to one day take Dr. Manhattan's title of Superpower Lottery. Dr. Manhattan quickly pointed out that Schneider still has opponents that can theoretically take him on in a fight, just disqualifying him from the running. Even then, Schneider eagerly awaits a fight between the two to prove who is the most powerful.
Is one of the few gods that not only enjoys Slaanesh's company, but actively seeks out her company.The Chaos God is happy to find someone who is her equal in lust.

Cassandra Allegra Calogera Portia Filomena Pentaghast, Goddess of Quickly Demoted Leaders

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Lesser Goddess
Symbol: TBD
Alignment: Lawful Good
Portfolio: Action Girl, Amazonian Beauty, The Comically Serious, Defrosting Ice Queen, Gilded Cage, Not So Above It All, Overly Long Name, The Paladin, The Paragon Always Rebels, Pragmatic Hero, Reasonable Authority Figure, Religious Bruiser, To Be Lawful or Good,
Domains: Law, Good, Glory, War,
Allies: The Inquisitor, The Warden, '''Hawke, Varric, Alistair, Morrigan, Spiritual and Mental Powers Merrill]], [[Artix Von Krieger
Rivals:
Enemies: Corypheus
Opposed by: The Librarian
Admires: [[Pantheon/lust Jiraiya]]
The three protagonists of Thedas successfully ascended Cassandra into the Pantheon. A former leader of the Seekers, she was initially one of the four leaders of the Inquisition before she decided to step down from that position. Her devotion to personally seal the Fade gained admiration from many, enough to gain a temple in the Pantheon.
- She was delighted to serve the Inquisitor in the Pantheon, especially if one of his/her paths involves a romantic relationship between the two. Her admiration for the man is only surpassed by that of Hawke. The Caretaker had to kindly ask her not to spend so much time in his/her temple.
- The ascended companions also enjoyed her company... if only to see just how much they can saw to her and get away with it Isabela especially loves to poke for fun. The only one who doesn't do so is Merrill, who was happy to find someone who wasn't initially frightened by her powers.
Is one of the closest examples of a paladin in her world. Alistair may have more similar powers to the class, but she is far more comfortable with the role. Artix was one of her most ardent sponsors for her ascension, personally thanking her afterwards.
When she found out there was someone who sold smutty comics, she couldn't help but take a look. A trip to the House of Lust brought her to Jiraiya's temple. By the time she got out, she had already spent the whole there reading books. Ever since she was caught reading one of Varric's books, she has taken painstakingly difficult steps to keep her escapades a secret.
Has been banned from the House of Knowledge for her tendencies of [[Memetic Mutation stabbing books and papers. The Warrior claims it's not as bad as many think it is.

n3xus I am the King! from Somewhere in the Mirror World Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: In season

I am the King!

#75543: Aug 9th 2016 at 6:10:50 PM

@Yami Marik: To be honest, I'm kinda against of him getting ascended in the pantheon since the real Marik already destroyed Yami Marik's existence already.

@Phoenix: Allies with Towa Akagi/Cure Scarlet since she has a phoenix motif in her Cure form. Also, make him enemies with the other Phoenix he's a phoenix-themed Phantom monster.

This is all Zi-O's fault!

JRads47 Me Listening to You RN from Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center Since: Dec, 2014

Me Listening to You RN

#75544: Aug 9th 2016 at 6:29:48 PM

That really doesn't mean anything. I mean, we ascended Ventus despite him being trapped in Castle Plot Convenience and Father despite being locked behind the Gate of Truth.

@Shatterstar: Change his title to "Fair for His Day".

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#75545: Aug 9th 2016 at 6:31:35 PM

We also have some Deader than Dead characters.

Alright, so who here supports Yami Marik: So far I have two nays and one kays

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I am the King!

#75546: Aug 9th 2016 at 6:38:13 PM

, Regardless, I'm still not gonna change my mind. However if others are ok with it, it should be ok.

This is all Zi-O's fault!

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#75547: Aug 9th 2016 at 6:41:01 PM

Phoenix has realistic voice acting.

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