Trope Pantheons Discussion

Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

Donnietu from Stockton, CA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

#147251: Oct 9th 2019 at 1:54:49 PM

Update on the Wolf Man so far.

Lawrence Stewart Talbot, Cursed God of Wolf Men (Larry, The Wolf Man, Mr. Talbot)

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Larry (left) and his wolf man form (right).

Adopted from: Whirl RX
Demigod. Lesser as the wolf man.
Symbol: A cane with a silver wolf head with a pentagram
Theme Song: This
Alignment: True Neutral. Chaotic Evil as the wolf man.
Portfolio: Doomed Protagonist, Stalker with a Crush, Tragic Monster, The Charmer
Domains: Curses, Beasts, Tragedy, Werewolves
High Priest: Tony Rivers
Allies: Bruce Banner, Jon Talbain, Greymane, Remus Lupin
Enemies: Count Dracula, Frankenstein's Monster, Godzilla (?), Hircine, Vincent Godfrey, Fenrir Greyback
Opposed by: Hoss Delgado
Complicated Relations with: The Belmont family
Larry Talbot was a practical man returning to his homeland at Llyanwelly to reconcile with his father. Everything seemed to be going well, until he got bitten in the chest by a wolf. As it turned out, that was the local werewolf, and now Larry carried that curse. Since then, he has been struggling with the beast within as he looks to lift the curse.
Reports of a werewolf attack have spread in a local village in the Pantheon with some people initially assuming that the attacker is an animal. This led the Pantheonic Police to investigate. Upon looking at the attacker’s footprints, it is revealed that he is the Wolf Man, who was spotted and captured by the cops who were armed with shotguns that shoot silver bullets. Once the Wolf Man reverted to his human form, they were debates on what to do with him. However, they come to the conclusion that as one of the most recognizable werewolves in fiction, he was chosen to represent Wolf Man.
Unfortunately for Larry, he is still suffering from lycanthropy and will transform into the beast. Luckily, well, as lucky as he can get, the transformation is very infrequent and far apart. He can also take solace that even if he does transform, there are plenty of people who could take care of him. As in life, he is trying to find a cure for him infliction.
As far as his interactions with other werewolves go, he seems to get along with Remus John Lupin, whom he sympathizes with for how much he’s had to rein in his instincts and causes his wolf form to be hairless and emaciated. Sometimes, Lupin supplies Larry with Wolfsbane potion to help him out. He is also on good terms with both John Talbain and Greymane. However, he doesn’t like Fenrir Greyback for turning Lupin into a werewolf and seeking to convert as many as he can.
As a progenitor of lycanthropy in his world, Hircine views the condition as a blessing, a reflection on his philosophy. Werewolves when they pass away are even sent to his realm to hunt in the afterlife forever. As such he is unable to comprehend that people like Larry don't like being a monster and is for this very reason offended that he is trying to cure it instead of embracing that other side of himself.
His relationship with the Belmont family is rather complicated. On one hand, the clan opposes him given his wolf transformation. However, they seem to have pity on him knowing that Larry despises his curse. That can’t be said with Vincent Godfrey, who would rather put him down as he is known to despise any lycanthrope in the Pantheon. Talbot doesn’t like him because of this.
Hoss Delgado also opposes him in the same way that he opposes all other monsters given his complete inability to recognize that not every monster he comes across is evil. The only thing stopping them from being enemies is the fact that because Larry has no control over his infrequent transformations Hoss prioritizes other, more actively dangerous threats. And even then, that decision came to be after attacking Larry a couple times beforehand.
Has made friends with Dr. Bruce Banner after learning of the Hulk and how their situation are very similar. While he has heard of Hulk's rampage, he also learned that it's heroic and more sympathetic. Larry bemoans that there is no way that his wolf self can ever be considered a hero.
There has been rumors going around that the wolf man fought against Godzilla in a situation very similar to Frankenstein's Monster and Baragon. However, few believe in these rumors and that if Godzilla really fought the wolf man, it might have been just a radiated wolf.
He has clashed with Frankenstein’s monster and Dracula back in his mortal world. Of course, the relationship hasn’t changed much now that all three of them are in the Pantheon.

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.

227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018

I hate spoilers

#147252: Oct 9th 2019 at 2:16:27 PM

What house is he going in?

Everyone look at my sandbox

kingvideogames Every Kel Profile is Canon from SOMEWHERE down in Fullertown; don’t know where.. Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!

Every Kel Profile is Canon

#147253: Oct 9th 2019 at 2:18:53 PM

Think I got a bit more of a stead ally list for this banana. Anything else I could add to him, or s?

Dr. Screwball Jones, Godly Herald of the Clown Prince of Crime

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Potential House: Character Expies
s:
Ascending/Rework Done on: ??? ?? (repost on ??? ??)
Lesser God
Symbol: A screw going through a baseball.◊
Theme Song: Let The Pun Fit The Crime
Alignment: Chaotic Evil while stating he has Lawful Good motives
Portfolio: Arch Enemy to Wander, one of the few villains he takes seriously as his Evil Counterpart, Monster Clown with Multicolored Hair, wanting others to be happy by Getting Smilies Painted on Your Soul, Laughably Evil despite being pretty dangerous, Expy of the Joker
Domains: Bananas, Comedy, Joker-esque villains
Superior: “Weird Al” Yankovic
Allies: The Joker (his inspiration), Nerose Satanael, SCP-993, Pennywise
Respects: Sans
Enemies: Wander, Sylvia, Lord Hater and Commander Peepers, Lord Dominator, Pinkie Pie, Batman, The Inside Out Emotions, King Kong, Sun Wukong, Mojo Jojo, Winston, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong,The X-Men, Krusty The Clown, Rubella, Ronald McDonald
There are not a lot of evil villains in Wander's galaxy that he takes seriously. However, like all rules, there is always one outlier, and that perso-erm, banana, is Dr. Screwball Jones. While not much is known about him and his past with Wander, but what is known is that Wander considers him to be a serious enough threat to actually use violence against, all thanks to his mantra. Considering now that wasn’t the only concerning thing about him, especially when counting in his tendency to joke despite the severity of the situation and clown motif reminding everyone of a certain jester, he has been approved for joining the Pantheon.
His ascension into the Pantheon came forth with a warning of having several deities pillows that were filled with feathers replaced with whoopee cushions, even pillows that hosted diamonds within the Pantheon’s museum in the house of Craft. Wander’s worst fears upon realizing this were proven true as a spaceship with a whoopee cushion a sail flew into view, as he quickly dressed up into his Boy Wander outfit and, with Sylvia, went up to confront his old foe, Dr. Screwball Jones.
- Despite managing to foil his plan to spread happiness by using his tickle machine once again, evicting him from the Pantheon itself just wasn’t meant to be, as Melkor took notice of how Screwball actually made Wander use force to try and stop him compared to his usual antics and approved him for properly ascending.
With Screwball Jones ascending and joining the Grand United Alliance of Evil, this has proven to be a double edged sword. Firstly, this means that when working for someone else in the alliance, Wander will abandon his friendship antics in support of just stopping them from doing potential harm. However, this also means that Wander won’t stop anyone else from trying to interfere with anyone else doing collaborations with Screwball Jones, and considering how many friends Wander has, this has been proven to be more difficult than one may assume.
In terms of Lord Hater and Lord Dominator, he only views them as roadblocks on his path to being the best villain there is, and plans to use this title to forcefully spread happiness. Lord Hater and Peepers tend to ignore him, while he stops by Lord Dominator’s temple to mock her with puns, especially after kidnapping him and forcing him to sing in her song.
Upon hearing his voice actor within the Pantheon, Screwball ended up being stunned to hear just how much his singing style matches to his own. While Weird Al was weirded out by essentially talking with himself at first, he allows Screwball on his less evil days to join him for accordion duets; just as long as he doesn’t blast away the audience.
Of course, the first thing he did was meet up with the Joker after hearing about how similar they were. Despite initially scoffing about the banana just being a copycat, he quickly warmed up to him after hearing his jokes and seeing his weaponry in action. It’s often for Batman and Wander to team up to stop the duo.
Given their similar motive of causing happiness through force, Screwball Jones has become allies with Nerose Satanael, and has become interested in the idea of taking away free will just to create happiness. He believes that he could possibly upgrade his tickle machine to erase all other emotions besides happiness.
Due to his belief that all other emotions besides happiness are essentially useless, the Inside Out Emotions are extremely wary of him, but none as much as Joy ironically enough. The reason for this is that she sees Screwball Jones as like her when she didn’t believed that Sadness was needed for Riley, and doesn’t want to be reminded of that part of her life. In her defense, emotions trying to surpass other emotions isn’t a uncommon occurrence.
Thanks to how they both love to spread smiles, Screwball tried to forge a alliance with Pinkie Pie, especially after hearing of her smile song. Being warned about him by Wander, Pinkie Pie was prepared for him and decided to give him a present, which hosted Pinkie Pie herself to blind the floating banana with a cupcake before launching him away in her party cannon.
Ended up meeting Sans after hearing of his legendary bad puns from many deities, challenging him to a pun off for the fate of Frisk. Surprisingly, despite Screwball being the type of person that Sans would be willing to give a bad time to, Sans obliged and won the contest with ease, but not before summoning a bone to trip Screwball out of the sky. Screwball got a good laugh out of how a banana actually tripped before heading off. When asked later, Sans said that anyone who appreciates bad puns surely can’t be that bad of a guy.
As a sentient banana, questions soon rose up about just how he tasted. Screwball has since been wary of monkeys trying to eat him after Donkey Kong tried to peel him. While most other monkey realize he's still alive and only oppose him due to how crazy he is, Mojo Jojo tries to eat him as a way of asserting dominance over him, seeing himself as the superior villain. Besides, he's certain he would taste funny anyway to them, anyway.
Thanks to the similarities with him and Mad Jim Jaspers, he is one of the most threatening villains to the X-Men, resulting in them coming after him with Wander as The Boy Wander to take him down. On his part, Screwball is looking forward to meeting Jim one day and forming a alliance with him.
Doing his rounds around the Pantheon, he ended up befriending other clown deities, namely the more villainous SCP-993 and Pennywise, the Dancing Clown. While he did express interest in doing a collab with Bobbles and possibly appear on his show as a guest star, he draws the line with eating children. Not only is that just not part of his motive of spreading cheer by force, he won't be able to even fit a kid in his mouth even if he wanted to try. That said, in the end, any clown that is able of pulling off so many different tricks is cool in his book.
- Of course, this alliance with the clowns have led to the actual clowns and jesters within the Pantheon, namely Ronald Mcdonald, Rubella, and even Krusty The Clown, to look on his with distain and disgust.
“Maniacal Laugh! Hahahahaha! This looks like the end of the line! So leeeeeeeeeeet, the puuuuuuuuuuuun...”
- “fiiiiiiiiiit, THEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...”
  - “crime.”

Edited by kingvideogames on Oct 9th 2019 at 2:23:27 AM

Time to rise and shine. Good morning!

Donnietu from Stockton, CA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

#147254: Oct 9th 2019 at 2:19:40 PM

@227someguy: Fantastic Races

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!

I’m here to do something

#147255: Oct 9th 2019 at 3:21:34 PM

Just a sad, lonely girl

r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)

#147256: Oct 9th 2019 at 3:33:56 PM

Revenge of the Killer Tomatoes

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

uwu

#147257: Oct 9th 2019 at 3:43:57 PM

I can't believe they're making a sequel!

Here's the Dees again. I really can't think of any more interactions for them. Are they good to go or are there any more gods to interact with?

I'm putting them in Enemies because it describes them as video game enemies, most of the examples come from video games, and they're in the Video Game Characters index. If you guys don't think they'll fit there, I'll just put them into Facial Attributes.

The Waddle Dees, Deified Collective of Waddling Heads (The Hardest Boss In All of Existence, Waddle Dooters)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/waddle_dee_kssu.png

The Average Waddle Dee

TUP: 1 (SuperWiki)
Houses: Enemies and Facial Attributes
Quasideities
Theme Song: Battle Among Friends: Waddle Dee (Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards)
Symbol: Waddle Dee's face. Alternatively, a red and white striped umbrella
Alignment: True Neutral
Portfolio: Waddling Heads, First-Stage Mooks, Adorable Creatures, Can Wield Parasols and Spears, Undying Loyalty To Those Who Care For Them
Domains: Minions, Movement, Anatomy, Heads
Herald: Waddle Doo
Followers: The Metools, The Yukkuris, the Pookas, the Monstars
Superior: King Dedede
Allies: Bandana Dee, Bowser, The Koopa Troop (The Goombas, Lakitu and Spiny, The Koopa Troopas, Blooper, The Boos, The Bob-ombs), the Prinnies
Enemies: 02, Queen Sectonia, Ma rio, Luigi, King K. Rool, Jiggly puff
Opposes: Etna
Researched by: The House of Knowledge
Adored by: Rena Ryugu
Complicated Relationship: Kir by and Meta Knight (allies or enemies depending on the game)
Waddle Dees are a common species native to Planet Popstar. They're a carefree bunch, preferring to relax and take it easy. Many Waddle Dees native to Dream Land are loyal to King Dedede, and work hard for him despite their relatively weak bodies and lazy nature. The most striking part of their appearance is that their bodies completely lack a torso, only having a head with stubby limbs attached.
There used to be only one Waddle Dee holding the title of Waddling Heads, but one day, King Dedede made a request to the Court of the Gods to ascend the rest of his Waddle Dee minions. Shortly after, the lone Waddle Dee left the Pantheon and returned to the mortal plane. A few weeks later, a large population of Waddle Dees were spotted around Dedede's temple, with a very happy King Dedede celebrating their arrival.
A certain Waddle Dee is known for assisting Kirby and Ribbon in their adventure to collect crystal shards by transporting Kirby via boat or minecart. Some deities speculate that Bandanna Dee is that very same Dee, but these rumors have yet to be proven. He's sometimes used as the mouthpiece for the Waddle Dee population.
Some Waddle Dees are seen carrying a spear, and they know how to do simple combat moves like jabbing and throwing. When asked about how Bandana Waddle Dee got so skilled with his spear, Waddle Dee said he doesn't know but it probably has something to do with the bandana.
The Waddle Dees hate Zero and Queen Sectonia for having his Dark Matter minions possess Dedede multiple times and ordering Taranza to kidnap him to conquer Pop Star respectively. Both of them ignore the Waddle Dees, as they pose little threat to them.
The house of Knowledge has tried to study the Waddle Dees numerous times because they're very curious as to how they function as a head with feet. King Dedede wishes they would stop stealing his Mooks because nobody is allowed to abuse his Waddle Dees except him.
- The only thing Waddle Dee has told them is Waddle Dees eat through osmosis. This only raised the house's curiosity even more, as now they're questioning how that is even possible.
Mario once mistook a Waddle Dee for a Goomba and was surprised to find that jumping on it hurt Mario instead. When he returned with a Fire Flower, the Waddle Dee was seen running at a speed thought impossible for something without legs or discernable organs (namely lungs).
- This wasn't the first time a Mario brother had Waddle Dee related troubles; During the subspace incident, Luigi got startled by one, which lead to King Dedede turning him into a trophy. To this day, Luigi still gets a bit nervous when he's around them.
- The Waddle Dees have made themselves enemies with King K. Rool after he smacked Dedede when makng his grand appearance in the fifth Smash tournament. K. Rool mostly just ignores them.
- On the other hand, The Waddle Dees look up to Bowser as he cares deeply for his minions. They get along with the Koopa Troop very well, as they're weak, yet loyal minions who have strength in numbers. As such, they're occasionally seen assisting the Koopa Troop with tasks. Bowser appreciates their hard work, and considers them honorary Koopa Troop members.
Some Waddle Dees tend to feel uneasy and sometimes even flee at the sight of Jiggly puff because of how much she looks like Kirby. Jigglypuff is annoyed as that means they won't stay to listen to her singing.
Upon setting her eyes on them, Rena Ryugu became overwhelmed at their cuteness and tried to take some of them home with her. This lead to an enraged King Dedede chasing her around the Pantheon trying to clobber her with his hammer. She now keeps her distance and admires them from far away.
The Waddle Dees will happily serve anyone who treats them with kindness. Needless to say, they dislike anybody who are abusive and harsh to their minions. Of special note is Etna, who regularly abuses and kills her Prinny minions whenever she's angry, or just because she felt like it. Etna would rather punt them like her Prinnies, which often gets her into fights with a very angry Dedede. They and the Prinnies get along well, but they question why the Prinnies stick around such an abusive boss.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!

I’m here to do something

#147258: Oct 9th 2019 at 3:48:43 PM

Just a sad, lonely girl

CrimsonShark The Black Blade from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number

The Black Blade

#147259: Oct 9th 2019 at 3:52:25 PM

I know I'm reiterating it, but I need some kind of response before I would go along with it; Before I ascend Zolomon, would it be preferable for him to be in Insane Behavior or be one of the Heads of the Asylum in the House of Insanity?

"O, Death... become my Blade, Once More"

wootzits Since: Apr, 2010

#147260: Oct 9th 2019 at 4:04:08 PM

Just put him in Insane Behavior.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#147261: Oct 9th 2019 at 4:13:24 PM

A GUAE sub-house as part of Melkor's efforts to match Cosmos. What do you think?

GUAE False Shepherds: Charismatic villains who make evil seem more appealing and serve as good PR. Leading them is Lex Luthor. Among their rank are Akio Ohtori (seductive force), Dr Facilier, The Coachman (Disney villains good at the Bad Samaritan act and hiding their foul nature while leading people to doom), Randall Flagg (dark charismatic cult leader), Gaston (popular among his town, Awesome Ego and Melkor can use his ego). Who else should I add?

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#147262: Oct 9th 2019 at 4:19:41 PM

for Waddle Dees

Uni cat

Sawkman Since: Apr, 2018

#147263: Oct 9th 2019 at 4:27:15 PM

Not sure why Bulk and Skull are in the house of Anti Heroes. Suggesting they get moved to Character Roles.

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

uwu

#147264: Oct 9th 2019 at 4:28:52 PM

I approve of moving them there.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

SuperMafia Since: Jun, 2013

#147265: Oct 9th 2019 at 4:40:30 PM

Waddle Dees are good to go to me!

An old fart that needs to get back to writing profiles

WeirdWarrior Press 5 For Senor from the Sunshine State Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.

Press 5 For Senor

#147266: Oct 9th 2019 at 4:43:32 PM

for the Waddle Dees.

This time, I'm really gonna do it.

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

uwu

#147267: Oct 9th 2019 at 4:54:01 PM

The Waddle Dees are up.

For my next project, I want to salvage Kazuma's Party from Miggs Kirby 123's Sandbox and work on them. I tried contacting them with a PM, but they didn't respond. Can I get your approval to finish the profile?

EDIT: They're in my sandbox now.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Oct 9th 2019 at 5:13:20 AM

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#147268: Oct 9th 2019 at 4:56:13 PM

He hasn't been here for a while so go ahead. You will be doing us a huge favour by finishing them

Uni cat

227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018

I hate spoilers

#147269: Oct 9th 2019 at 6:01:47 PM

That's the exact trope that I wanted them to be the Gods of. That makes 3 times where that happened to someone I didn't ascend (1st was Gon Freecs, 2nd was Pesci, who hasn't ascended yet)

Everyone look at my sandbox

wootzits Since: Apr, 2010

#147270: Oct 9th 2019 at 6:37:49 PM

I think they're done.

The Diver, Goddess of Awesome Underwater Worlds

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/abzudiver.png

Lesser Goddess
Symbol: The collectible shells
Theme Song: "To Know, Water"
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Awesome Underwater World, Underwater Ruins, Green Aesop, Golden Super Mode, Nature-Loving Robot
Domains: The Sea, Exploration, Adventure, Ecology
Herald: The Great White Shark
Allies: House of Aquatic Life (especially the Orca), The Robed Figure, Aquaman, Ariel, King Triton, Melody, Mermaid Princesses, Kyogre, Archie, Marlin, Dory, WALL-E and EVE, House of Nature Preservers
Enemies: Mr. Burns
Tolerated by: Bruce
The Diver is a robotic being whose origins are steeped in mystery. In her world, an ancient civilization thrived after finding a way of harnessing a power from the sea, and they built many beautiful things. The Diver may or may not be a leftover creation of theirs, or perhaps of their descendants, but either way, that civilization eventually perished, presumably from abusing their resources, and left the ocean to the marine life once more. The Diver somehow activated and took upon herself the task of restoring life to the sea and getting rid of the harmful remains of the previous dwellers.
With the unexpected help of a Great White Shark, the Diver ultimately succeeded in restoring the ocean to its natural beauty and making it full of life. After that, the Diver and the Great White went exploring elsewhere far away and stumbled upon the House of Water and Moisture, which was being badly polluted by Mr. Burns' industrial waste. The Diver and the Great White teamed up with several other water-dwelling deities and got to work in righting things. The House's waters were eventually cleared and Mr. Burns humiliated as the Diver used her powers to destroy part of his industry, with the Great White dealing with anyone who threatened her. Many Houses, especially the aquatic ones and the Nature Preservers, praised her deeds and invited her to become a god and keep watch over the oceans in all the multiverse, with the Great White as her Herald.
The Diver's tale almost immediately garnered comparisons to that of the Robed Figure, as they both come from worlds that were ravaged by extinct civilizations whose rise and fall can be credited to the abuse of some kind of powerful yet finite resource. Both the Diver and the Robed Figure did what they could to improve their worlds' situations, although the Diver arguably accomplished more by restoring life back to the ocean and eliminating residue, while the Robed Figure simply set Cloth Creatures free (though there wasn't much RF could've done). Both of them even interact with lost technology by "singing" at it. Their many similarities allowed them to bond and it's not unheard of for them to go on adventures together once in a while, though it's not very common either since they're made to dwell in very different environments.
She is a friend to all marine life and is usually found swimming alongside some member or another of the House of Aquatic Life. Even those generally considered evil or just far too hazardous by human standards are pretty tolerant of her (it probably helps that she's a robot and therefore not interesting as food). She may take advantage of her influence to dissuade the less-good marine deities from attacking humans sometimes. This is less out of concern for humans and more out of wanting to avoid their retaliation.
- Her relationship with her closest friend the Great White didn't start off in the best way, with it actually hindering her in her mission until they had an Androcles' Lion moment, so she had no illusions about quickly becoming friends with the shark god Bruce. Still, she wasn't quite prepared for the horrible stories detailing how insane and voracious Bruce could be. She would like to be able to be a calming influence to him, but no opportunity for becoming close to him has yet arised like with the Great White. Bruce doesn't pay her much of any kind of attention and lets her hang around him once in a while, and she may be the only being who has ever accomplished such a feat without getting torn to shreds. Presumably this is due to the presence of the Great White, who would undoubtedly intervene if the Diver was in danger. Being of the same species, Bruce appears to respect the Great White.
- She is responsible for helping the Orca to ascend, having taken pity for him upon hearing his tale and guiding him into the Pantheon before he could end his life. Since she was also able to use her powers to restore his family back to him, the Orca is quite fond of her and, given his experiences, really only trusts and considers listening to her, as far as other deities go. The Great White prefers to steer clear from this guy, given orcas can and will eat sharks, though it's never too far away that it can't fulfill its guardian role to the Diver. The Diver isn't naive about the reality of the food chain, so she understands both sides.
Has all-around good relationships with the royal families of aquatic kingdoms, such as Ariel's, Aquaman's and the Mermaid Princesses. They're grateful to her for her efforts in keeping the seafloor and the life dwelling there healthy. The Diver isn't much of a fighter and is probably a pacifist, so she doesn't really aid them in fighting their enemies (unless it's in indirect ways like sabotaging them), but she may help clean up in the aftermath if she's available, or calm down some sea creature rampaging in their cities.
The Diver caught the interest of Archie after the team leader heard of her actions to improve the quality of the oceans. While Archie may have a dark past involving wanting to raise the sea level to the detriment of those who need land to live, he's learned the error of his ways and wants to help the ocean in a more benign manner. The Diver is open to his ideas and has become pretty good friends with his Sharpedo. Archie has also told her about Kyogre, if only to ensure she doesn't make the mistake of infuriating it out of ignorance should she run into it during her explorations. The Diver in response sought out Kyogre and it turns out the sea titan is as accepting of her presence as most other marine beings.
Once, Marlin and Dory decided to tour her temple out of curiosity and Dory wound up wandering off by herself and predictably got lost (though her memory problem made her placidly oblivious to the fact). The Diver ran into a panicked Marlin by chance and took him with her to find Dory, which took some time but it was nothing she couldn't handle as there isn't anything that could eat Dory in the temple. Upon reuniting the fish, she mused that once in her adventure she found a pair of fish the exact same species as them.
Through Marlin and Dory, the Diver heard about WALL-E and EVE and she identified with them over their efforts to save a devastated world by working towards environmental restoration. In addition, the Diver finds it refreshing to find other robots who communicate with simple sounds or single words, as she finds that other deities' incessant gabbing can get rather tiring.

The Orca, God of Devious Dolphins (Nickfin)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/orca_600.jpg

Lesser God
Symbol: Himself
Theme Song: His eponymous theme
Alignment: True Neutral if left in peace, Chaotic Evil when crossed
Portfolio: Devious Dolphins, Animal Nemesis, wants revenge for his family's murder and won't give up until achieving it, It Can Think
Domains: Dolphins, Revenge, Intelligence
Heralds: His mate and calf
Allies: The Diver
Enemies: Bruce the Shark, The Meg, Hubie and Rocko, Captain Ahab
Enemy Mine: Moby Dick
Complicated Relations: Melody, Ariel
This orca once terrorized a small fishing town. He was motivated by vengeance against Captain Nolan, a particularly unscrupulous fisherman who had wanted to capture him to sell him to an aquarium. However Nolan screwed up majorly, killing the Orca's mate and their unborn calf instead of capturing his target. The Orca didn't rest until he made Nolan pay for what he did, and he didn't care if he had to hurt people who had nothing to do with what happened to reach his goal. The Orca killed Nolan in a final showdown at a glacial landscape, and then, with nothing else to look forward to, proceeded to swim under the ice to end his own life.
The Orca kept on swimming aimlessly, waiting for his fate. Then a humanoid shape approached him, and his first instinct was to attack to take out his lingering frustrations, but the figure was cloaked in an aura that calmed him, and he discovered he actually couldn't sense anything human about her. He was thus convinced to be guided by her until they came to a small sort of circle to which she sent a signal. To the Orca's exultation, from the circle sprang his mate and his calf who he thought he'd never see again. The Diver, for that is who the figure was, explained such a thing was only possible because they were in the Pantheon and that the Orca had become a god for his deeds.
Because of all of the above, the Diver may be the only deity the Orca fully trusts. After everything that's happened, he has become extremely leery of humans. This isn't to say that he actively goes after them in some sort of murderous Misplaced Retribution, but he steers clear from them and doesn't accept attempts at friendly contact. Although if they try to approach his mate and calf instead, then yes, you can count on him going on a murderous frenzy. In such cases, one had better hope for the Diver to be nearby, as she's the only one who can calm him down.
He doesn't exactly get along better with his underwater neighbors, either. He is an orca, so he is quite firmly at the top of the food chain and is a threat to virtually every member of the House of Aquatic Life where he resides. Yes, even sharks and the occasional whale bigger than him. All this makes the Orca kind of a loner, not that he cares as long as he has his family.
- They don't have to be exclusively sea-dwelling animals; the Orca is willing to breach to try and catch penguins and similar animals who hang around the shore. The two penguins Hubie and Rocko now have another reason to be extra-watchful when they go in the sea, not least because they got chased and nearly eaten by one in their adventure and they know how persistent orcas can be.
Ironically for someone who preys on sharks and who even great whites steer clear of, the Orca is an Expy of Bruce, the god who made everyone afraid to go swimming. There are few things Bruce is afraid of, but his instinct to run away flares up when he thinks the Orca might be around, and the Orca will chase him away whenever the shark is too close to his territory, and might even try to make a meal out of him. Sometimes Bruce's hunger gets the better of him and he dares to cross the Orca's territory in search of food, which tends to end in the Orca beating the crap out of him, at least. Since the Orca is a lot less interested than Bruce in eating humans, it's given some deities ideas that they could use the Orca to scare Bruce away from the Pantheon's beaches. The Orca even once saved a human from a great white, though this was before his family's massacre. Convincing him to do any favor for a human now would be troublesome, to say the least.
- With that said, the presence of the Meg, a ravenous shark as big as whale, gives the Orca pause. It's probably a good thing that the Meg lives in a completely different House and so rarely crosses paths with him. If the Meg strays too close to the House of Aquatic Life, the Orca will try to avoid her as well as he can and protect his family as usual; only if the Meg actively preyed on them would the Orca dare to face her in battle.
The Diver thought it fitting to show Kyogre to the Orca. The Orca turned out to really not want to get too close to Kyogre, likely because he could sense that the sea titan possesses vast power beyond his imagination. The Orca's attitude to Kyogre is one shared with a lot of sea creatures in the Pantheon: a lot of distant respect for an inaccessible being that stands way above them. Kyogre for its part was vaguely interested that there was finally an orca god, considering how the species is the basis for its shape, but doesn't particularly care about him.
Captain Ahab identifies with Nolan's side of the story when it comes to the Orca, and as such feels it is his duty to avenge a fellow seadog. He makes regular excursions to the Orca's territory to try to kill him. Seeing another human similar to Nolan attempt to kill him and his family makes the Orca see red and try to use every trick he can think of to defeat him, just like he did Nolan. After learning that part of Ahab's problem with him has to do with his enmity with a whale called Moby Dick, the Orca went to look at him out of curiosity. Although he kept his distance, he felt a kinship with the whale due to their quarrels with humans. After that, the Orca may sometimes come to assist Moby Dick when Ahab is harrassing it; the reverse can also happen, but even less often. They are still different species who would attack each other in any other context.
The Orca's calf sometimes likes to go off on its own despite its father's vigilance, and met and befriend the mermaid princess Melody in one such outing. The Orca didn't like his calf consorting with a half-human whose mermaid mother preferred the life of a human, and Ariel didn't want Melody anywhere near a violent creature who harmed so many people in a quest for revenge, so they separated the children and dictated they weren't to see each other. As if Melody would listen, and the calf, while not yet used to rebelling, is too stoked at having its first friend.