Trope Pantheon Restructure thread

@TPPR For the record, i have no idea on what we can do with Yuno. I'm planning to rewatch Future Diary when i start my holidays but i promise nothing.

If it helps, i vote that we follow what happened in canon. Even if it's complicated to explain

Man time travel is a bitch

Yeah, stuff regarding time lines gets convoluted quickly. This coming from a guy who watches/plays a bunch of stuff involving the existance of multiple timelines, time loops and the like. Chrono Cross being the worst offender in terms of being convoluted.

My advice: Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni is your friend for that series makes time plots easier to comprehend with its explanations of such things being easy to stomach.

I was wondering if you guys don't me giving Deathwing a rework, cause there are a few things that i'd like to change and add a couple more flavour texts. Sounds good?

Go for it.

Go for it.

Notes: He was originally going to get sent to the fallen.

Reason: Dragon's Soul is widely considered one of the worst WOW raids of all time. Even worse, due to being a final boss, it was Xen Syndrome at its worst.

Also of note is he's not the skilled aspect in combat. That would be Alexstraza. If not for the Old God's power, he would have been outright killed in single combat in their duel despite the massive size advantage.

Wait what? Where did this come from? I can't recall anything like this. Are you making shit up?

Also, I don't think that by the looks of things Future Diary is that bad. I mean, the story mainly takes place in one timeline, just that one of main characters is from another timeline to repeat everything and third one comes up until around the end.

And just to make this point again, who would realistically even replace Yuno? Who would have the popularity to even keep up with her? Due of how widespread the whole trope is, it would be impossible to find a replacement for her. I mean, some one would make arguments about Yandere-chan getting it. And again, it's not like 3rd Yuno is perfectly innocent.

I mention that girl from part 4 of Jojo. I forgot her name. I just don't know if she still a Yandere in the end.

The trope page does say that she mellows down a lot when she gets saved by Koichi. And even then, she isn't really that important of a character for the whole story.

Yes, very real. The original draft for Deathwing was to get sent to The Fallen under Xen Syndrome on the grouds of Dragon Soul being amongst the worst raids in all of Wo W (especially given this being a final boss for the expansion and amongst the most hotly anticipated raids too) and for a memorable villain getting a horrible send off.

The idea was OLD (2014 maybe early 2015) but it never took off. Finding a trope for "The Destroyer" was nightmarishly difficult, taking multiple ideas before getting what we got today.

-Edit: Why not use Lucina from Crimson Peak. Barring the especially squicky twist, she's a chillingly realistic depiction of a Yandere. Just tossing crap at the wall to see what works.

Also, Yandere chan is an intentional expy of Yuno, so she is a solid fit.

edited 26th Jun '16 9:21:20 PM by magnum12

Tobias, God of Locked Shapeshifting (Bird-Boy, Emohawk, Tobias Fangor(?))

• Lesser God
• Symbol: Silhouette of a hawk
• Alignment: Neutral Good (human laws no longer affect him)
• Portfolio: Locked Shapeshifting Parental Abandonment, The Sneaky Guy, by Default, La Résistance, Animorphism, Voluntary Shapeshifting, Badass Bookworms, Super-Senses, Go for the Eye, aversion to water, Human Mom Non Human Dad, Half-Human Hybrid, The Chosen One
• Domains: Flight, Animals
• Followers: Claymores who use too much of their Youki power, Keel, Val, Keiki, Phylum, Umar, Yennorks, Switchers upon reaching 15, Animagi that try to polymorph themselves, voluntary Maiar, Sirius and Vega, Treach, some Selkies and Wereseals, wounded Margotines or human females they confer their powers to, Kieri, Puck/Owen Burnett, Timber Wolf
• Allies: His fellow Animorphs (non-ascended), Ax (his uncle), Ellen Kurokawa/Cure Beat (former High Priestess), Captain Martin Walker
• Enemies: The Crow, Mesogog, Indominus Rex, Rexie, Sharptooth, Mori Motonari
• Opposes: golden eagles, crows, jays, seagulls, pigeons, most water deities
• Opposed By: Most dinosaur deities
• It is unknown how exactly Tobias ascended, especially since his story's Bolivian Army Ending, but it's likely he ascended the same way many others did before the end of their series.
• His godhood is a little contested as he isn't exactly mode-locked anymore, but it is known that if he stays as a human or any other non-hawk animal for more than two hours, he will lose ALL of his power, divine or otherwise, other than those carried by the form he would be stuck in.
• Has been claimed to wangst a great deal over his condition, though reports have varied.
• Not to be confused with Tobias Funke.
• For quite some time, Tobias hasn't been seen in his temple, because of what happened in the end of his story, particularly Rachel's death; Tobias had withdrawn from society altogether as a result, spending most of his time as a hawk in the House of Nature or the Bestiary. Much therapy from concerned deities, particularly Fluttershy, managed to save him from the brink, and he was eventually convinced to return to his temple and perform his duties.
  • To further help with his therapy is Captain Walker, who knows just what war can do to someone, especially for someone who started so young.
• Once, he and the rest of the Animorphs went back in time to the Cretaceous Era, where they discovered that there was an alien race that could've destroyed the meteor that would've killed the dinosaurs. In order to preserve their own timeline, Tobias sabotaged it to ensure that the meteor hits. Naturally, many dinosaur deities weren't happy with this.
• Some people are confused as to how/why Ax and Tobias are uncle and nephew despite their differences as species. The answer: Elfangor, Ax's older brother, after an incident involving Time Travel and lost faith, morphed into a human, voluntarily suffered Shapeshifter Mode Lock, fell in love with Tobias's future mother, married, and bore Tobias before he was brought back by the Ellimist to the war and returned to normal, leaving his wife behind and her memories of him wiped.
• Because of what his former best friend Jake became as a result of the war he and his fellow Animorphs fought, he despises those who send troops to their death to achieve a goal, and Mori Motonari is one such example.

Well here is what i got for D-Wing. Most of the profile is unchanged but at least i added an introduction as to why he is so fucked up

Deathwing the Destroyer, God of Destructive Restructuring of the World (Neltharion the Earth-Warder, Neltharion the Betrayer, Deathwing the Black, Deathwing the Destroyer, Deathwing the Worldbreaker, Xaxas, Blood's Shadow, Lord Daval Prestor/King Prestor the First, ruler of Alterac (human disguise), The Black Scourge, The Dark One, Death Aspect/Aspect of Death, The Cataclysm, Blackwing Greatfather, The Unmaker of Worlds, Death Incarnate, Power Incarnate, Big D, Angry Black Dragon, D-Wing, The Dragonlord)

^{Click here to see his humanoid form} 

^{Deathwing Mutated} 

• Greater God, bordering on Overdeity
• Theme Song: Xaxas / Deathwing's Last Stand / Deathwing's Fall
• Alignment: Chaotic Insane
• Portfolio: Ax-Crazy, The Cain to the other Dragon Aspect's Abel, The Chessmaster, Evil Is Bigger, Evil Overlord, Fantastic Racism, Face–Heel Turn, Fallen Hero, The End Boss of his Expansion, Being the Largest of the Dragon Aspects, Large and in Charge, Nigh-Invulnerable, Omnicidal Maniac, Power Limiter, With Great Power Comes Great Insanity
• Domains: Chaos, Evil, Fire, Destruction, Earth
• Followers: Ancalagon the Black, Dire Miralis
• High Priest: Elder Primal Bahamut
• Allies: Nefarian (His eldest son), The Old Gods, Ragnaros the Firelord, Grima, Shinryu, Acnologia, Diablo, Melkor, Arthas Menethil, Grand United Alliance of Destruction
• Rivals: Godzilla, Mordremoth, Zhaitan
• Enemies: Aside from anything that's not a Dragon? The other Dragon Aspects of Azeroth (Alexstrasza, Ysera, Nozdormu and Malygos, who are all his siblings), Thrall, Bahamut, Caro Ru Lushe and Silica, Spyro, Zero, Caim and Angelus, Lucina, Robin, Paarthunax, Ornstein, Issei Hyodo, Shinji Kido/Kamen Rider Ryuki, Ange, Coco Reeve and Miranda Campbell.
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Mard Geer, Satan
• One of the most powerful being in the world of Azeroth, the once benevolent Neltharion the Earth Warder was a Black Dragon tasked with the powers over the earth. But he was slowly driven insane by the whispers of the old gods, eventually falling into insanity and betraying the people that once considered him part of their family. Now known as Deathwing the Destroyer, the dragon works as the prime champion of the Old Gods, doing their bidding without questioning, and worst of all, bring forth the Cataclysm.
  • The dragon immediately left a lasting mark on the day he ascended. The dragon emerged from the molten depths of the House of Fire And Electricity, and immediately started causing havoc, destroying everything in his path, often only by the sheer burn of his wings. While stopping him was no easy task, the court of gods is terrified of thinking about who could be the culprit that allowed the destroyer gain access to the pantheon.
• Deathwing is destined to bring forth the Cataclysm to the world of Azeroth. While he was stopped, that doesn't mean he doesn't intend to do the same to the Pantheon. The Destruction of every single pantheonic structure is the only thing that matters to him, even if it includes himself, and nothing will stop him from burning down this place. In his own words:
  Deathwing: "ALL WILL BURN!"'
• Some members of the house of love believe Deathwing's issues are because of the fact that he's... frustrated.
• Deathwing used to be fun to hang around with. He and his buddies Alduin and Smaug would go out, raze a few villages, smoke some Old Toby, mock Ur Dragon for being so unpopular and Ender Dragon for being so blocky, pretty much enjoying being dragons. Ever since he got rich from Cataclysm he thinks he's too good for them and would rather leave them hanging to be Blue Eyes' plus one to the KaibaCorp soiree. Alduin felt betrayed and vented his anger by trying to eat Tamriel while Smaug became a recluse in someone else's home. No one has heard from them since.
• Acnologia at one point attempted to challenge Deathwing, however the smaller Black Dragon of the Apocalypse was unprepared to face the Worldbreaker. The battle was quick, brutal, and destroyed a mountain range. However, Deathwing spared the whelp, mainly due to Acnologia also being a black dragon and showing as much promise as Deathwing's own children. Acnologia's not a fan of being someone else's pawn, but he's learned to not piss off his new boss.
  • When one of his own children managed to get a spot on the pantheon, he witnessed as the king dragon and the former battled each other. Though proud of his own brethen, he stopped the fight between "his sons" and invited Nefarian into joining him once more. Blackwing's sudden reaction at encountering his father in the pantheon was priceless.
  Nefarian: D-Daddy?
• Many remember how that he has gigantic Elementium metal plates welded onto his body in order to prevent himself from being blown up by his own power. And that he was killed by having them ripped off to allow Thrall to use the modified Dragon Soul's unfathomable power to blast his matter out of existence entirely. Unfortunately, that only worked in Azeroth. Here, the plates actually serve no purpose aside from armoring his already Nigh-Invulnerable form. You Can Panic Now.
• Alexstrasza and Ysera have begun planning possible countermeasures to prevent Deathwing's destructive tendencies from wreaking total havoc on the Pantheon. However, seeing as what he did to Azeroth just by flying, they have their work cut out for them.
• Some Gods of the Pantheon have noticed Deathwing sounds like many in the Pantheon. Hercules in particular isn't too happy about this.
• Despite them being allies, he finds Grima to be a bit of a fool. Mainly due to the fact that Grima was either too proud, or stupid to think of rolling while the Shepherds were on his back, thus, killing all of the ones that weren't Manaketes or on a flying mount. It's worked for Deathwing quite a few times.
• Satori Komeiji once peered into Deathwing's shattered mind. Aside from getting MAJOR backlash (and a really bad headache), she learned something: Neltharion the Earth-Warder still exists! However, the once-noble Neltharion is has no control of his own body, as the insane Deathwing has total control. At this point however, no one knows how to separate them.
• Of all the dragonlike deities in the Pantheon, Godzilla is the only one to be able to match him in pure ferocity. In the battle of these heavyweights, Godzilla is heavier, but Deathwing is larger. The measurements, 550 feet 4 inches, 90,000 tons and 925 feet (1,200 foot wingspan) and 70,480 tons, respectively.
• Witnessed the Summoning of Ragnaros into the pantheon and took an interest in working again with the elemental lord in the GUAD. Ragnaros in turn, was glad to encounter the worldbreaker again and is considering the dragon's offer of joining the organization. Time will tell if these two behemoths wil join forces again.
• Ever since the ascension of the Old Gods, Deathwing has been asigned by them to mount guard on their temple (A rather degrading role compared to what he did in Azeroth). The insane Dragon obeys without question, given that those creature are responsible for what he is today.
• "I AM POWER, INCARNATE!!!"

Any ideas for enemies? Mostly related to dragons? Or the apocalypse?

The sub-house of Character Roles is getting too big. As such, I think a new sub-house might help. Any ideas?

Issei Hyodo and Archangel Michael.

@Deathwing: If it wasn't for the fact that there's not enough information on Primordus (The Elder Dragon of Fire) at the moment, I'd have suggested that the deified Elder Dragons might consider Deathwing to be quite similar to Primordus.

edited 27th Jun '16 6:14:26 AM by Eldrake

@faso: "[[HeelFaceTurn betraying the people that once considered him part of their family]]"

I think you meant Face–Heel Turn.

Whoops, i will fix it.

Morty and Zhaitan?

Yes, these two.

If you want to add flavor text about it though, maybe Deathwing would be interested in meeting Primordus someday.

Alright, I'm done with these two.

Commander Samuel Vimes, Chief Policeman of the Pantheon (Sam, Old Stoneface, His Grace.)

• Lesser God
• Symbol: A copper badge in the shape of a shield with the number 177 on it.
• Alignment: Chaotic Lawful Good. (While noteworthy for maintaining "a certain anti-authoritarianism" he is often seen as defining lawful good)
• Portfolio: Grumpy but good hearted police chiefs, Heroic Willpower in spades, dirty fighting for a good cause,, Papa Wolves and Badass Normals.
• Domains: Law, Good, Truth, Badassness.
• Followers: Andrew F. Gooley, Inspector Todd, Chief Bogo, Julius Root, Barney Miller, Lieutenant Al Giardello, Aveline Vallen, Lin Beifong
• High Priest: Commissioner James Gordon
• Superior: Terry Pratchett
• Allies: The House of Justice ... the institution itself rather than the people who are in it, Rick Blaine, Dr. House, Dr. Cox
• Rivals: Ezio Auditore
• Enemies: The House of Crime, Lex Luthor, David Xanatos
• Opposes: The Houses of Commerce, Vampires and Royalty
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: All members of the House of Justice good aligned or otherwise, Axe Cop, Inferno Cop, Vi, Caitlyn
• Pities: Chester Bum
• Odd Friendship: Omar Little
• Respected by: Humphrey Bogart
• No one when this man entered the Pantheon, but it's common knowledge that Sam Vimes is one of the founders of the House of Justice and thus one of the oldest members. After serving as a patron for policemen throughout the Pantheon, he has finally taken responsibility to lead them all.
  • As head of all police officers divine and mortal, he only has two rules: do your job and don't talk to him unless spoken too. Although the later rule isn't strictly enforced, he is clear in his dislike in being forced into a conversation. With that said, he firmly has faith in the House to deliver justice to those who need it... it's just that he holds a cynical view on everyone he meets. Not even Dredd himself is exempt.
• Has a long list of gods he hates in the Pantheon. Most of those gods reside or are associated with the Houses of Commerce, Vampires and Royalty. That includes good-aligned deities, though those gods have a chance to get on his good side with a lot of persistence. In general, he despises heads of authority more than anything else. It's the reason why he refused to take a spot in the Protectors of Justice
• Has always had a soft spot with the homeless, giving small donations to Chester A. Bum's temple. That doesn't mean he goes light on the man whenever the bum gets caught. It only means that he's more comfortable with the poorest beggar to the richest man.
• Is naturally enemies with the House of Crime given who he works for. With that said, many in the Pantheon respects the man to stick up against authority, something many would agree on.
• Frequency spends his time drinking alcohol in the House of food. Often times it's with Rick Blaine, making him one of the few deities he doesn't immediately suspect of wrongdoing.
  • During one of his trips there, he heard the infamous sound of "Omar Comin'." Instead of fleeing, the Chief decided to stare face to face with the man for once. Omar was impressed with his bravery, deciding to sit down to eat with him. After some minutes, Sam grew a begrudged respect for the man and his honor. Likewise, Omar appreciated someone who could stand next to him without being a prick. The two promised to chat again sometime before departing. Thus a beautifully odd friendship was formed.
• Only goes to Dr. House in one of the rare times he goes to get a check up. The two love to chide each other through the entire checkup, but it's in good faith with each other. Dr. Cox may not meet up with him for checkups, but the two tolerate him enough to occasionally hang out.
• Being Chief Policeman of the Pantheon, he has been the subject of many assassination attempts, including those who want to steal his throne. Yet Sam managed to best every challenge so far. One can only wonder what would happen if he faces the God of Assassins himself. Exio has declined the challenge for now, citing there are more vile enemies to take down. Still, the challenge in itself would be difficult to turn down in the long run.
• Villains such as Lex Luthor and Xanatos have proven to be both his most hated foes and the most difficult to fight. Their good publicity coupled with their cunning has stymied his efforts to put them behind bars.
• Other cops who reside outside the House of Justice receive similar treatment. He is particularly wary of Vi, given her past life as a criminal as well as residing with them in the House of Crime. Caitlyn constantly warns him to loosen up on her.
• He is slightly more tolerant of Inferno Cop and Axe Cop, mainly because they never ask questions about their work and are in general highly successful in their work. He's satisfied as long as they keep up the good work.
• Given his anti-authoritarianism, some deities put him more in line with detectives. Indeed, those deities are less disliked by Vimes than cops. Indeed, Bogart regards the man as a mashup of both detectives he depicted. The chief currently denies such claims, as does his creator Terry Pratchett.
• Even Vimes spent a small part of his time mourning for his creator's passing. When asked why the change of heart, he retorted that even he can grieve about things at times.

Samwise Gamgee, God of Simple-Minded Wisdom

• Lesser God
• Symbol: A small elf-sword
• Alignment: Lawful Good
• Portfolio: Act of True Love, Beware the Nice Ones, Blood Brothers, The Everyman, Fire-Forged Friends, Earn Your Happy Ending, Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass, Incorruptible Pure Pureness, Jumped at the Call, The Not-Love Interest, The Power of Friendship, The Reliable One, Undying Loyalty
• Domains: Friendship, Good, Hardship, Knowledge
• Superior: J. R. R. Tolkien
• Allies: Aragorn, Spyro, Frodo, Bilbo, Gandalf J.D. and Turk, Mike and Sulley, Jak and Daxter, Rand Al'Thor, Tokugawa Ieyasu
• Rivals: Raistlin Majere
• Enemies: Belkar, Warboss Ghazghkull
• Opposed By: Sauron and by extension Melkor
• Odd Friendship: Thrall
• Served a ceremonious title in the House of Friendship for a long time, partially due to his friendship with Frodo that is matched by very few. Alas, it was time for him to take up a true title for himself. The House suggested to honor him for his incredible wisdom, guiding Frodo through Mordor to destroy the ring.
• Tokugawa Ieyasu wished he could find a spot for the hobbit, but ultimately failed on that regard. Still, he allows Sam to visit the House any time he wants. Sam even helps out any new deities who manage to land a spot there.
  • The entire Fellowship was responsible for the push for his move, a part of a restructure project to increase their followers. They hope to bring more of their members into the fray.
  • Sauron long sought to remove the hobbit from the Pantheon, still GREATLY DISPLEASED with his role in destroying the ring. Now he would have to settle with destroying him. This hatred extends to Melkor himself.
• He was shortly met by Tolkien, his creator. The man who gave birth to fantasy congratulated him in finding his new home.
• His ascension was actually a rather sad affair, because he discovered that for once he came to a place where Mr. Frodo can't follow. The Heroes are currently searching for a spot to put Frodo.
  • Happily, they have succeeded. Frodo (and his uncle Bilbo) are now in the House of Otherness; the reunion was a joyous, tearful one as the two hobbit friends embraced each other, laughing merrily.
• Before his dear friend's ascension, Sam thought one day that he had heard Mr. Frodo's voice, but it turned out that he'd mistaken Spyro for his friend, since they sound similar. Spyro befriended Sam after this and has promised to help find a position in the Pantheon for Frodo.
• One day, his temple was vandalized with red paint. That "paint" turned out to be blood. Simple detective work determined the perpetrator to Belkar. A black sheep among the hobbit community, he has been the sharpest critic of their friendship. Since then, the halfling has lessened his animosity with the two as a result of Character Development, especially in Sam's cooking skills. Though if you would say that to his face he would disembowel you and use your body for Mr. Scruffle's kitty litter.
• Are in good terms with every couple who claimed the title Life-Long Friendship. Sam only regrets how much trouble that temple went through, causing two changes in power. Sam would used his temple as refuge during the turmoil. The current holders welcome Sam and Frodo into their temple at any time as thanks.
• Naturally distrusts orcs, especially those who follow Warboss Ghazghkull's brand of orcs who hassled his group throughout the trip towards Mordor. He does acknowledge that not all orcs are evil, which is why he spearheaded forming good relations with Thrall in the hopes of drawing more orcs to his ranks.
• Most fantasy deities respect him for his actions. Raislin is not that kind of person. Even if he admits his journey with the Heroes of the Lance draw some comparisons, he would consider the hobbit an ally of his. Samwise decided to let him be. Not everyone needs to praise him.
• Rand Al'Thor on the other hand was moved with his journey, offering up his services whenever he has the chance to. Rand has grown fond of that certain philosophy, one that he hopes to follow.
• May well be the only other deity that can match Jeremiah Gottwald when it comes to Undying Loyalty to a friend, helping Frodo to go through all sorts of torment to destroy the ring.
• Some remain unimpressed with their journey. Criticism was led by a mortal named Randall, who not only downplayed their adventure, but accuse the two of Ho Yay among the two. While some of their followers balk at the thought, Sam merely wears it on his sleeve, claiming their relationship as such.

edited 27th Jun '16 8:31:56 PM by Patrickthekid

@Patrick A few things:

• Wrong link on Terry
• Ezio is...?
• Frodo link is kind of messed up
• Incorruptible Pure Pureness is redlinked

Fix that and good to go

@Walter white. Enemies with the Godfather and Omar Little, given heir opposition to drugs.

BTW, Whirl RX? I'm wondering when you'll be doing Lisa's redemption, which I approve of(particularly since we have a non-Fallen Soapbox Sadie in the pantheon proper). Also, on Samwise and Samuel Vines

edited 29th Jun '16 3:21:35 AM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

@Samwise and Sam Vimes:

Quick question. Where do I go to "advertise" a page that Needs More Love?

edited 29th Jun '16 7:02:32 AM by nightelf37

This is probably the best place to do so. Whether someone would actually do so is up to them.

@Patrickthekid: on both profiles.

Update on the Overlords:

The First, Third and Fourth Overlord, the Trinity of Expendable Mooks (The Tin Tyrant; The First Overlord: Lord Gromgard; The Third Overlord: The Great One, The Overdad, The Eighth Hero, Gallant, Infernal God of the Infernal Abysses; The Fourth Overlord: Witch Boy, The Demon Lord of Nordberg, The Overlad)

^{The Third Overlord as the Infernal God of the Infernal Abysses} 

• Theme Song:
  • Third Overlord: Overlord Main Title
  • Fourth Overlord: Overlord II Main Title
• Intermediate Gods (The Third Overlord is a Greater God, bordering on Overdeity)
• Symbol: Their spiked helmets
• Alignment: Evil
  • First Overlord: Lawful Evil with Good tendencies.
  • Third Overlord: Lawful Evil (Originally Good, and acts closer to Chaotic Good)
  • Fourth Overlord: Neutral Evil
• Portfolio (all): Bad Boss, Balance Between Good and Evil, Card-Carrying Villain, Deep Voice Despite Not Talking, Flunky Boss, Glowing Eyes of Doom, Large and in Charge, Magic Knight, Mighty Glacier, The Minion Master, Necessarily Evil, Obviously Evil, Screw You, Elves!, Mute Villains, Spikes of Doom, Surrounded by Idiots, Tin Tyrant, Villain Protagonist
  • First Overlord: Affably Evil, Prefers Axes, Bread and Circuses, Dangerous 16th Birthday, Freudian Excuse, From Nobody to Nightmare, Only Sixteen when he Became The Overlord, Villain with Good Publicity, inverting Well-Intentioned Extremist
  • Third Overlord: Possibly Ruborian, Anti-Villain, Ascend to a Higher Plane of Existence, Fallen Hero, Prefers Swords, Having Many, Many Titles To a Ridiculous Extent, Became the New God of the Infernal Abyss After Killing The Forgotten God, Noble Demon, Physical God, Pragmatic Villainy
  • Fourth Overlord: All the Other Reindeer, Anti-Hero, Blue skin with Silver, swirling markings, Bullying a Dragon (he's the Dragon), Having A Thing For Maces, Creepy Child, More Focused on Mistresses, Most Spells Involving Lightning or Electricity
• Domains: Command, Evil, Tyranny
• Allies: Gnarl, innumerably suicidally-loyal goblin things, the mistresses, The Keeper, Terry Pratchett, Mordekaiser, Arthas Menethil
• Rivals: Iskandar the Great, Robin, Shao Khan
• Enemies: Sauron, Fantasy Heroes and all Elves (particularly the more annoying variety), Mouri Motonari, Grima
• As an avatar of Insert Name Here, the Overlord maintains tremendous power and an army of expendable minions both willing and able to Take Over the World only while being embodied. When Insert Name Here isn't around, the Overlord's domain has a tendency to get invaded and overthrown, forcing them to reconquer it at regular intervals.
• The Fourth Overlord maintains a harem of Mistresses. His father the Third Overlord, by contrast only took one, his mother, Rose^note though that may have had to do with his tower not having enough room for more than one and their relationship was surprisingly loving for an Evil Overlord. Lord Gromgard however, cares not for mistresses, though that may be due to his age and upbringing.
• Some have questioned their villainy due to the fact that they've mostly slain evil foes and hardly any good ones (mostly self-righteous elves). It's been theorized that their role is to oppose the Pantheon of Good if they prove that Light Is Not Good.
• The three are quite good friends with Terry Pratchett, surprising many in the Pantheon. Though, quite a few others can understand why.
• Many thought that the meeting of the Third and Fourth Overlords would be a great battle, or some manner of attempt at supremacy. In reality, it was nothing of the sort.
  (They just stare silently at each other)
  Gnarl: Family meetings are awkward.
• Many were also surprised that the Third Overlord is actually extremely benevolent. As in "Villain In Name Only" benevolent.
• Note the Third Overlord's massive list of titles? They are:
  "Restorer of the Dark Tower, Servant Snatcher, Bully of Jesters, Rescuer of the Distressed Damsel, Leader of the Fire Starters, Exploder of Melvin Underbelly, Wielder of Steel, Forger of Durium, Master of Arcanium Weaponry, Homewrecker, Saviour of the Tower Heart, Most Wise Master, Dungeon Dabbler, Warrior of the Watery Ones, Force Feeder, Giant Slayer, Restorer of the Dark Tower, Ruler of the Stealth Army, Purger of the Perverted Paladin, Merciful Quieter of Grumbling Stomaches, Loyal Lord!, Bar Room Brawler, New God of the Mumblers, Town Trasher, The One True Overlord, Most Knowledgeable Master of Minions, Friend to the Flowers and Trees!, Preventer of the Floral Print Menace!, Wielder of the Paladin Mop!, Persecutor of Pumpkins!, Ambassador of the Abyss!, Grinder of Goldo and Ravager of Rollie, Elf Lover!, Aggravator of the Angry Beards, Blessed by the Elves, Art Critic!, Star of the Stage!, Pleaser of Ladies!, Master of Evil Culinary Arts!, He whom Death Fears!, He who laughs in the face of death!, Ammasser of Armies!, Forgiving Lord, Apprehender of Thieves, Impenetrable One, Master of the Dungeon, Mindful Warrior!, Cautious Crusader!, Great and Mighty Overlord"
  • Yes, really. Gnarl enjoys making the Jester recite them all without stopping.
• Honestly, there are few situations they can't solve just by employing more minions. For those, they have to find the right way to employ them. ...or just employ even more minions.
  • This habit of theirs is also the main reason why Sauron detests them, as due to the sheer ridiculous number of minions they can use his legions of orcs ALWAYS get overrun by the four-foot tall Minions. Sauron finds that very insulting. Melkor however, finds it hilarious.
• The Overlords get along quite well with Arthas Menethil, due to their shared use of their armies. The Overdad especially enjoys Arthas' company due to similar events in their past.
• The Third Overlord has met Lady Macbeth, who reminds him very much of Rose's younger sister, Velvet. Much to Lady Macbeth's chagrin however, none of the Overlords seem to care about much her one way or the other.
• The three are widely viewed by many as Alexander the Great's Evil Counterpart, as while Alexander uses an army of his friends to do battle, the Overlords use legions of minions without number to fight. Additionally, The Overlords and Alexander aren't slouches in the combat department themselves either. Alexander considers the Third Overlord as his most Worthy Opponent in the Pantheon as well, due to reminding him very much of his old rival Darius III (not the least in due to his height).
• Due to The Overlord's manner of using their minions, Robin isn't particularly a fan of them. Gnarl was quick to point out however, that Minions willingly (happily and stupidly) serve the Overlord, and are happy to give their lives in service to their master. Plus, the Minions are more effective than humans anyway, as they're easier to move around, maintain and equip.
  • However, the Overlords particularly detest Grima, seeing no point in Grima's destructive nature. What point is there in destroying the world? It's much better to Take Over the World and rule it with an iron fist. This has caused quite a few team-ups between the Shepherds and the Overlords. The Third Overlord at one point even used his Infernal god form to fight Grima one-on-one much to everyone's shock.
  Robin: Has he always been able to do that?
  Gnarl: Well, the last time I saw him he got sucked into the Infernal Abyss. Clearly, whatever he was doing down there went in his favour.
• Many of the more fashion-concious deities in the Pantheon have been wondering if the Overlords, Sauron, Melkor and Arthas all go to the same armor shop, because seriously.

Also, I'm not sure how I'd mention their Large and in Charge aspect, as someone did the math based on their in-game models^note This isn't counting the spiky helmets: Gromgard is 6'6 (which for a 16-year old is huge), the Overlad is 7'2 and Overdad is.... 8'3 (which makes his relationship with the 5'7 Rose hilarious to think about). Also, I can't seem to get the labelnote for the Third Overlord's One-Winged Angel to work with a spoiler tag. I can't really remove all references to that as, aside from The Reveal of him being the Eighth Hero, that's the biggest spoiler from the first game.

edited 29th Jun '16 10:43:54 AM by BlackSunNocturne