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Welcome to the new Complete Monster (CM) cleanup thread! This thread is where we clean up or cut already-existing entries.

If you're looking to add new entries, please see the approval thread.

IMPORTANT: Before you begin any discussions on this thread, please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List. Here, you'll find explanations of the criteria for the trope as well as our rules/procedures for approving and cutting candidates.

What goes through this thread?

    Examples 
  • Cut requests. If you believe a CM has been approved and they do not count, this thread is where you propose their removal. To know how to go about this, please see the FAQ folder on the Administrivia page, where the process is explained in detail.
  • If we ever need to consider cutting multiple examples without individually reviewing them (e.g. if we discover widespread plagiarism with a particular troper's CMs), the initial discussion will be on this thread and we'll then escalate to the mod team (as described here) to get a formal consensus if we decide to recommend a mass cut.
  • If an entry was put on the wrong subpage/YMMV page, you may propose where they should be moved to.
  • Full rewrites of existing entries, including expansions, trims, and ground-up rewrites. If your rewrite is approved by the thread, feel free to add it to the drafts page so that other users can check grammar and the like before it is included with the rest of the weekly swaps.
  • If an entry on a work's YMMV page doesn't match the entry on the media subpage, you can bring it here to discuss which entry works better.

What does not go through this thread?

    Examples 
  • New candidate proposals - as stated before, those are done on this thread.
  • Unapproved wicks - if a Troper encounters either of these kinds of wicks, they can be cut with no approval.
    • Any CM link on a non-YMMV page - as a YMMV trope, it should not be linked on those pages regardless of any cleanup effort. The only exception is if the wick is being used within the definition of another trope.
    • If an CM link on a YMMV page refers to an unapproved character. If it refers to an approved character on any such page, the wick can stay. On the other hand, if the unapproved character being linked to sounds like they might have promise (and you don't feel like checking it out for yourself), feel free to mention it on the approval thread - someone may already know why they don't count, or it could invite a brand new discussion!
  • Proposals for images, quotes, and videos of already-approved CMs - quotes and images are proposed on the approval thread, while videos can be uploaded normally as they are screened for approval by the moderation.
  • Crosswicking examples to YMMV pages - if an example has already been approved and added to the main page, you do not require any special permission to add the example to a work's YMMV page (assuming the work has a page already). If a YMMV page doesn't exist yet, then you can make it yourself, but either way, feel free to just add the example without asking.
  • Small changes to existing entries - these can simply be done on a Troper's own prerogative with no approval.
    • Spelling and grammar fixes.
    • Pothole changes.
    • Minor rewordings.
    • Spoiler tags.

While these changes do not require any kind of approval, it is requested that should you make any of these changes, you do one of the following:

  1. Make the same changes on the relevant Sandbox page, then add the Sandbox to the list at the bottom of the drafts page. This will add the Sandbox to the weekly swaps and ensure that the edits end up on the relevant locked page. If the Sandbox is already listed, then once you make the edits, your job is already done!
  2. If you don't know how the Sandboxes work or simply don't have the time to find it, then you can simply post on the thread about the changes you made. Someone else can then make the edit on the relevant Sandbox and add it to the weekly swaps.
  3. Alternatively, you can simply request that the change be made directly to the locked page on the Locked Pages thread. Members of this thread keep track of that one, so we will ensure that the changes are made in the Sandbox so that it doesn't get deleted during the next swap.

Again, these changes don't require any approval, but we prefer to keep the entries on the YMMV pages and the locked pages the same in order to avoid any miscommunication or errors between entries, so if you do make the change, we would greatly appreciate it if you could ensure the change is made on the locked page as well.

As a final note, we do not care what other sites have to say regarding whether or not a character counts. We have our own criteria and they have theirs for their CM equivalents; while they are similar, they are not exactly the same and should not be treated as such. Another site removing a character from their equivalent should not be a reason why a cut is proposed here, and if this is the case, it will likely lead to mod intervention.

Other than this, once again, welcome to the cleanup thread, and we look forward to your contributions!


Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 14th 2024 at 11:30:03 AM

EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Not the Eye
43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
#4552: Feb 25th 2023 at 7:11:16 AM

I'm down Wet!

Having just rewatched Blue Velvet, I wanted to expand Frank a little as well (Here's to Dennis Hopper's very hammiest performance!)

From:

  • Blue Velvet: Frank Booth, a sadistic sociopath with a penchant for random acts of rape and violence, is introduced by savagely beating and raping an abused nightclub singer and then taunting her about her mutilated husband—said mutilation was done by Frank. It later turns out that Booth kidnapped the poor woman's husband and son, killing the husband in the process, only in order to make the woman his sadomasochistic Sex Slave, even cutting off her dead husband's ear and presenting it to her, just to torment her. When he figured out that Jeffrey Beaumont warned the police, he, in an act of reprisal, beats Dorothy nearly to death, strips her naked, and leaves her in front of Beaumont's house. During the ending, we also discovered he has also brutally lobotomized one of his henchmen after having killed Dorothy's husband.

To:

  • Blue Velvet: Frank Booth is a sadistic, violent crime lord keeping singer Dorothy Vallens as a Sex Slave by threatening to kill her husband. Keeping her son captive as well, Frank cuts off an ear from Dorothy's husband to keep her in line and later comes to her apartment to viciously beat and rape her. To expand his business, Frank also makes use of a crooked detective to have rival drug dealers murder and their narcotics stolen from the evidence locker to sell through his own men. When noticing hero Jeffrey Beaumont at Dorothy's apartment, Frank kidnaps him to beat and abuse the teenager, threatening to kill Jeffrey if he ever crosses Frank again. After Dorothy escapes Frank beating her, he kills her husband and crudely lobotomizes his own henchman in a fit of rage, returning to her apartment where Jeffrey is hiding, gleeful to murder him as well.

Frank's rather vaguely implied to be screwed up from his childhood (not redeeming, not by a country mile) and has bizarre mood swings that make me feel the emotional stuntedness makes Psychopathic Manchild a better name pothole. I also wanted to include the mass murders he orders through the Yellow Man to expand the drug empire.

Otherwise thoughts?

Edited by 43110 on Feb 25th 2023 at 10:11:59 AM

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#4553: Feb 25th 2023 at 8:25:28 AM

Miraculous requested a rewrite to the following entry from Dragon: Marked for Death:

Duchis Medius is the ancient king of Medius Empire and the man closest to Celestial God Primatus. Desiring immortality for himself, he orders his Divine Knights, led by his "pet knight", Vasith, to commit genocide against the Dragonblood clan and kidnap their Oracle Maiden, Amica, which resulted in the surviving members of the Dragonblood clan seeking vengeance against him. Medius fed Amica's soul with feelings of despair and hatred in order to sacrifice her to the Celestial Being Primatus so that he could transcend to become a god. It was also revealed that he is responsible for the unrest in Maralyus Kingdom as the king manipulated the Dragonblood clan that lived in there via his envoy to cause a rebellion, which resulted in the Dragonblood clan facing their imminent destruction.

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Duchis Medius is the elderly Divine King of the Medius Empire, and claims to be the man closest to the deity Celestial Primatus. Desiring immortality, he manipulates members of the Dragonblood Clan in the kingdom of Maralyus into causing a rebellion, using that as an excuse to send his Divine Knights — led by Vasith the Soul Vessel — to carry out a genocide on the Dragonblood Clan and kidnap their Oracle, Amica; leading to a survivor swearing revenge against him. Encasing Amica in Vasith and forcing her to kill to make her soul more powerful, Medius attempts to sacrifice both Amica and the survivor to Primatus in an attempt to become a god himself.

Edited by Arawn999 on Feb 25th 2023 at 5:43:57 AM

Ravok RIP Toriyama Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
RIP Toriyama
#4554: Feb 25th 2023 at 8:47:29 PM

Dig both the above rewrites, particularly Frank's! Great baddie and great write-up!

Tonight I dine on monkey soup.
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#4555: Feb 25th 2023 at 11:40:43 PM

[tup]rewrites.

Looks good.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Not the Eye
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#4557: Feb 26th 2023 at 4:44:22 AM

  • Ace Attorney
  • FBI
  • Issue #145's "Feast of the Stag": The Stagbringer, mad prophet of the Lima Plains and fanatical dedicant of the primordial Stag God Oranah, has tirelessly worked for years to see his god brought to Earth. The Stagbringer brainwashes dozens of innocent farmers and influences them into ghastly rituals of Human Sacrifice, compelling them as well to burn their crops and even murder their own children. When Conan ventures into the Lima Plains, thousands have already been slaughtered, including nearly every member of the ruling family, while thousands more from the neighboring country are threatened with starvation because of the crop-burning. Ultimately, the Stagbringer seeks to bring Oranah down so it may set the entire world aflame, seemingly for nothing but the joy of wanton destruction.
  • King Godwyn, ruler of the Gittish Empire, stands out as the prime definition of Humans Are the Real Monsters within a monster-filled world. Murdering his father and trapping his soul within a tomb out of impatience of not being granted the Empire, Godwyn then led a brutal campaign across the lands. Anyone captured by his forces would be enslaved and taken to the Gortress, where they would be brutalised constantly and killed whenever they grew weak or old. Godwyn also took to kidnapping Celestrians and had them trapped within The Oubliette, draining them of their powers, and also causing the Celestrian Corvus to snap from his 300-year-long torture. Revived by Corvus, Godwyn restarts his ambitions of conquest and enslavement, this time aiming to use the fallen Fyggs to allow him to have complete dominion over the planet. Defeated by the hero, Godwyn makes one last mad attempt on their life, forcing their mentor Aquila to make a Heroic Sacrifice.
  • Stranger of Paradise: Nil, a high-ranking and truly vile Lufenian, is Jack Garland's Arch-Enemy. Complicit in Lufenia's attempts to control Cornelia and the rest of the world, when that is foiled by Jack becoming Chaos Nil takes drastic action. Using Gilgamesh for the Death Machine—driving him to painful madness—Nil tries to use said machine to assassinate Jack and his allies, threatening to destabilise and destroy multiple dimensions in the process. In a final attempt at purging Chaos, Nil summons an army of Manikins that slaughter all the other Lufenians, intending to destroy Chaos and erase the entire dimension, creating it anew as a utopia free from "corrupting elements".
  • Rudra "the Catastrophe" is the ancient Horror bent on covering the world in darkness. After Rudra was sealed away by the Abe family, the machinations of Douma Hoshi allowed it to possess Abe no Seimei as its vessel. Rudra proceeds to cause death and destruction across the Capital in order to completely break its seal, taking enjoyment in beating Raikou and Kintoki. Merging with Ashiya Douman after being freed at last, Rudra has Horrors scourge the capital, planning to reduce all of humanity to nothing more than food for its kind.
  • The Horror known only as "King" is the ruler of El Dorado. While far from the most powerful Horror in history, King is one of the most clever. Forming the city of El Dorado as a seeming paradise, countless humans are lured in to become prey of the Horrors. Swaying numerous Makai Order adherents to his side to enact his plot, King intends to digitize the world so all humankind can be preyed on at will in his utopia. Upon the arrival of Sword and Sophie, King proceeds to give an order to initiate the absolute slaughter of humans within El Dorado and enact his digitization plot.
  • Planet Hulk: The "Red King", real name Angmo-Asan, seemingly saved Caeira's life in a flashback from the slaughter of her village before enslaving her. In his gladiatorial match against the Hulk, the Red King begins by slaughtering a group of the arena's survivors. Ordering the deaths of any who question the tributes he receives, the Red King dismisses the complaints of peasants, whom he compares to animals. In his rematch against the Hulk, the Red King tries to destroy the arena with a nuke, uncaring for the audience within the blast radius. When confronted about his atrocities, the Red King smugly proclaims killing to be his right, duty, and pleasure. Finally defeated, the Red King tries to destroy the planet he is on as a final act of spite.
  • Empress Jiang is the conniving, power-hungry wife of Sima Zhong. As a concubine, Jiang fatally poisoned Sima Zhong's infant children, stopping only to prevent an investigation into the deaths, resulting in the birth of Sima Yu. Later marrying Sima Zhong and becoming his Empress, Jiang grows dissatisfied with him and has her subordinates kidnap men off the streets so she could force them to have sex with her. Seeing Sima Yu as a threat, she tricks him into drunkenly copying a threat to Sima Zhong, resulting in Sima Yu being imprisoned. Empress Jiang then has him poisoned in his jail cell, presenting poisoned wine to him as a gift from his father.
  • Keen Detective Funnies:
    • Dean Denton: Bolton Gates, aka the Conqueror, is a wealthy yet power-hungry megalomaniac hell-bent on world domination and the sworn foe of Dean Denton. Leading a cult of red robed men, the Conqueror commits several evil deeds throughout the series such as murdering a federal agent and one of his followers during his counterfeit money scheme; trying to use a beam to slowly and torturously kill Dean and Carol; attempting to use Carol as a Human Sacrifice; murdering an actress with an poison blow dart; and manipulating a man to take the death sentence for him under a false pretense that he'll cure his dying wife, letting her die anyway when he does comply. The Conqueror ultimately tries to have the two warring countries of Sirape and Kambeg surrender to him by using Greenite gas to kill countless soldiers of theirs, threatening to kill every last one of them if they don't comply to his demands.
    • Issue #18's The Eye Sees story: Ganza is a mercenary hired to make a small nation's civil war worse. Deciding the best way to do so is to get the United States involved, Ganza masterminds a plot to blow up the American consulate with the ambassador, his daughter and anybody else who happens to be inside, and make it look like an air raid did it. While setting up the bombs, Ganza kills a henchman for seeing something nobody else does, and later executes his other employees so he doesn't have to share the payout.
  • The Legend of Vox Machina:
    • Season 2: Kevdak, Thunderlord of the Herd of Storms, is the wicked uncle of Grog Strongjaw. Leading his Herd of Goliaths as marauding bandits, Kevdak has butchered countless innocents and left villages as lifeless wastelands. When Grog protected an innocent gnome, Kevdak savagely beat him to a pulp and left him for dead. In the present, Kevdak continues his brutal marauding to gather riches for the dragon Umbrasyl. Upon being opposed by his son Zanror, Kevdak beats him down with a clear threat to his life. When Grog returns, Kevdak gleefully tries to kill his best friend Pike and then beat Zanror to death when his son takes the chance to try to stop Kevdak's madness.
    • "The Terror of Tal'Dorei" two-parter: Brimscythe, the Iron Storm, is the blue dragon of the Chroma Conclave and the first true threat faced by Vox Machina. Desiring to conquer Emon, Brimscythe destroys farmland and massacres multiple villages of the Shalesteps, putting Emon at risk of starvation, in order to gain the attention of the Tal'Dorei council. Taking the guise of General Krieg after killing him, Brimscythe led several adventuring groups to be slaughtered, later doing the same thing to a squadron of his own soldiers, to push Sovereign Uriel to mobilize the army against the dragon. When fellow council member Sir Fince begins gathering evidence of Brimscythe's true nature, Brimscythe murders Fince before confronting Vox Machina in his lair. There, it's revealed that Brimscythe intends to have all of Emon's soldiers gathered in one place so that he can kill them all, leaving him free to attack the defenseless Emon as he pleases.
  • Legend of Oz: Wicked West, written by Tom Hutchinson:
    • The Wicked Witch of the West is an utterly cruel woman who wants nothing more than to dominate all of Oz. In her quest for an army, West murdered the creators of the Golden Cap and used it to control the entire "People" race. To illustrate her control, West forced the People to slaughter an entire village of their friends, and threatened to make them turn on the rest of Oz and then one another if they didn't follow West's orders. Terrorizing Oz for years to come, West learns of the arrival of Dorothy Gale and immediately tries to murder the girl and her friends to steal her power. West then proclaims her intention to burn down Dorothy's homeworld and bring devastation to Oz and a dozen more innocent realms.
    • Mombi, the Wicked Witch of the North, is a vile pusher and mover of power in Oz. Mombi backs the schemes of countless villains, including West herself, all in exchange for one particular currency: children. Mombi deals exclusively in kids, whether to use them as cheap, abused labor, or to slaughter them to use them as raw ingredients in potions. She even eats the occasional child. Mombi transformed Ozma, ruler of Oz, into Tip to begin with, and made Tip a slave on her ranch, where Tip sees things like Mombi transforming kids into a non-sapient frog merely for running his mouth.
  • Legion of Super-Heroes (2023): The original Brainiac is the secret founder of the Dark Circle. A nightmarish villain responsible for countless atrocities, Brainiac attempts to have his minions murder Legion members to manipulate Kara and his clone Brainiac 5 into activating a special device that affects space and time. Having had numerous other clones created to do damage ranging from serial killing to mass destruction, Brainiac has survived by grafting them to his body still alive, conscious and with one still screaming. Seizing control of the device, Brainiac plans to erase every hero from existence along with anyone that could ever possibly threaten his reign over existence, plotting to destroy entire worlds to secure his final goal.
  • Superman: Red Son:
    • Brainiac is an alien artificial intelligence who comes to Earth to miniaturize and collect the city of Stalingrad before supposedly being defeated by Superman. In truth seeing an opportunity to gain control over not just a city but an entire world, Brainiac pretends to have been successfully reprogrammed, going on to serve as the Premier's most trusted ally in overseeing the Soviet Empire for over a decade. With the Kryptonian as his Unwitting Pawn, Brainiac lobotomizes dissidents into loyal servants of the USSR and constantly attempts to goad his supposed master into an invasion of the United States that will result in millions of deaths, all while never once bringing up his ability to restore the shrunken city. Upon Superman finally deciding to attack President Luthor only to have a change of heart, Brainiac destroys Stalingrad and proceeds with the invasion anyway, throwing away any façade of subordination in his mad designs. The logical conclusion of Superman's subconscious desire to put the whole world in a bottle, Brainiac is a spiteful narcissist desiring to control everything to sate his egomania, with his ship rigged to self-destruct and wipe out the entire planet even after his ultimate destruction.
    • Joseph Stalin is the initial Premier of the Soviet Union. Acting as a benevolent father-figure to the well-intentioned Superman, Stalin is truthfully a horrible dictator with millions of deaths to his name, having any dissidents mowed down in mass executions or sent to disease-ridden gulags where they are worked to death. Upon being confronted by Superman, who has discovered both the existence of these prison camps and that his childhood friend Lana was sent to die in one of them simply because she knew the Kryptonian before he joined the USSR, Stalin maintains that these atrocities were necessary to weed out the weak and elevate the Soviet Union—and himself—to greater heights.
  • The Card Counter (2021): John Gordo, real name John Rodgers, is a psy-ops specialist from the infamously brutal SERE program. Gordo is brought aboard CIA black sites to "reverse-engineer" the methods used to train recruits in the SERE program as actual torture techniques for actual prisoners. Under these parameters, Gordo becomes a government-backed Torture Technician and helps to develop "Advanced Interrogation" techniques, exporting these tortures to places such as Abu Ghraib. Gordo's tortures dehumanize both the prisoners and the soldiers he's in command of, to the point at least one of the latter commits suicide. Despite all his claims of patriotism, Gordo has no problem leaving these soldiers to take the blame when the Abu Ghraib atrocities are leaked. When he's finally confronted, Gordo remorselessly tells an ex-recruit of his that they have to accept their moral responsibility—while, every step of the way, dodging any responsibility of his own.
  • Little Big Man: General George Armstrong Custer is a genocidal, hateful officer in the American army. First encountering protagonist Jack Crabb when the latter is an army muleskinner, Custer leads a brutal attack on Native villages, massacring women and children. Later leading a second attack that butchers a whole village, including Crabb's wife and daughter, Custer spares Crabb only to savor his anguish at being unable to kill Custer. Later forcing Crabb into being a scout, Custer decides to attack what he assumes is a helpless group of women and children.
  • Return to Oz:
    • The Nome King is the greedy, self-centered ruler of the Nomes who considers all the precious stones in the world to be his. Angered at the people of Oz creating the Emerald City out of his emeralds, the Nome King attacked Oz, turning its population to stone. The Nome King also allowed the tyrannical Princess Mombi to collect the heads of dozens of women to indulge her vanity, with their heads being left alive and fully aware of their situation. When Dorothy Gale returns to save Oz and confronts him, the Nome King challenges her and her friends to a game where the losers are transformed into ornaments for his palace. When Dorothy wins, the Nome King attempts to eat her and all of her friends.
    • Princess Mombi is a deranged, tyrannical sorceress who usurped control of the Emerald City by trapping the true ruler inside an enchanted mirror. A narcissist whose looks are fading with age, Mombi collects the heads of beautiful women and swaps her own head for one of theirs every so often. When not in use, the heads are kept alive and conscious. When Dorothy arrives in the Emerald City, Mombi has her imprisoned with the intention of adding her head to her collection once she becomes an adult.
  • Terminator Woman (1993): Alex Gatelee is the crooked CEO of Gatelee Industries. Dealing in illegal affairs like drugs and guns, Gatelee makes most of his money through his massive slave ring, having several women who attend his night clubs kidnapped and sold to foreign buyers. Willing to murder his own men, Gatelee kills one of his men for stealing and hiding his gold, and throws another guy out the window after he accidentally lets some captives free.
  • The Auctioneer, by Joan Samson: Perly Dunsmore is an alluring auctioneer with designs to turn the town of Harlowe into his own capitalistic fiefdom. Having likely murdered an elderly woman to steal her home, Perly uses auctions to fund his own personal police force in Harlowe with which he terrorizes the populace into continuously giving away their belongings to supply his auctions. Any townsfolk who refuse to cow to Perly are murdered or severely injured by him, with one woman paralyzed in a car accident and another family's youngest son drowning in a well. Perly has a twisted fascination for children, which is revealed to be utterly depraved when he is ousted as having raped a teenage girl for months. Perly takes his auctions so far that he begins selling children of his victims to wealthy parents looking to adopt. When he is finally driven out of Harlowe, Perly ditches his wounded, loyal right-hand man and arranges for someone else to die in his place to cover his tracks.
  • The Heroes: Stranger-Come-Knocking, originally named Pip, is a brutish Northman giant with a fascination for civilization, who proclaims himself chieftain of all that lies east of the Crinna. A savage tactician who lures Governor Meed's army away from his command post so as to ambush and slaughter the dozens of servants, chefs, and other unarmed staff at the outpost, Stranger-Come-Knocking takes Finree dan Brock and Aliz dan Brint as hostages and beats one of his own men into a bloody pulp just for touching Finree. Stranger-Come-Knocking plans to turn Finree and Aliz into breeding slaves to give him "civilized children" as he boasts to have done to entire tribes' worth of women in the past, and he eventually betrays King of the Northmen Black Dow and arranges for Calder to take the throne. Stranger-Come-Knocking is revealed to have been an agent of Bayaz the entire time who deliberately escalated and bloodied the war in the North before turning on Dow for Bayaz's schemes. Stranger-Come-Knocking shows himself to be truly vile even by Northmen standards, a traitor to his own people who will go to any lengths to get what he wants.
  • The Troy Saga: Agamemnon, King of Mycenae, is the main perpetrator of The Trojan War and the leader of the invading forces. Having failed to take control of Troy through a coup, Agamemnon rallies the kings of Greece under a false pretence, ravages the lands allied to Troy, and finally lays siege to the golden city itself. Agamemnon's cruel, murderous, and treacherous actions during the siege manage to disgust even his own allies. Utterly unrepentant, Agamemnon causes thousands of deaths and untold suffering in pursuit of personal glory, riches, and power.
  • "Tick, Tick, Tick...Boom!": Scott Dunn is responsible for the deaths of a string of prostitutes; caused the suicide of a man who he framed; and murdered a businessman to live off his identity. Calling Beckett to mock her each time he commits a murder, Dunn even sneaks a corpse into her apartment. Later sneaking a bomb into Beckett's apartment, Dunn is enraged when she manages to survive, murdering an innocent woman to vent his anger. Taking FBI Special Agent Jordan Shaw hostage when his identity is revealed, Dunn tries to lure the team into a building he plans to then blow up, killing them all.
  • Planet Hulk: The Red King is the tyrannical of the planet Sakaar. He created and unleashed Spikes when he was just a boy, having them turn countless innocents into flesh-eating abominations and manipulating Caiera into serving him. The Red King has thrown countless people, be they rebels or slaves, into death matches in the Colosseum, even brainwashing Korg's three brothers into ruthless killers. When Hulk and his team earn their freedom, the Red King tries to get them to kill their friend Elloe to prove their loyalty to him, deciding to fry them all when they refuse. Unleashing Spikes on the village where gladiators have been hiding, Red King smugly reveals the truth to Caiera before having the village burned to the ground. The Red King has gladiators captured and the seemingly dead Hulk brought to the capital, planning to personally execute them to break the people's hope.
  • Belia Darzu is one of the most ghastliest mad scientists the Sith have ever produced. A Shii'do from the days of the New Sith Wars, Belia perverted the Force art of mecha-deru—the art of mechanical manipulation—and turned it into "mecha-deru vitae" to allow the combination of machines and living flesh. Belia creates an army made entirely of innocents she's forcibly converted into creatures she calls "technobeasts", the process of which involves the horrific lobotomization of the victim and their bodies twisted into cybernetic monstrosities; she even designs a Synthetic Plague that transforms people into new technobeasts to go along with them to assimilate as many people as she can. Finally assassinated by the Mecrosa Order, Rule of Two shows that not even death ends her control over the technobeasts; her lab is filled with hundreds of them, awaiting her commands even in death and helpless to prevent themselves from rotting for centuries.
  • The Lost Suns tie-in comic: Darth Mekhis is a Mad Scientist and alchemist with a penchant for destructive superweapons. Introduced deploying chemical weapons against hundreds of people on a planet she is invading, Mekhis later takes control of the Vesla system and turns its population into her slave force. Mekhis forces her slaves to create weapons of mass destruction for her, and then turns around and tests the weapons on said slaves, killing off the millions of them for her own sadistic glee. Using the Sun Razer as a base of operations, Mekhis has designed the Sun Razer to devour stars for power, and has devastated multiple planets with it. She plans to mass produce the Sun Razer to enslave and kill millions more innocents, so that she can create all the more weapons for war that will be used to slaughter entire planets. Mekhis uses her free time to corrupt Jedi into becoming Sith, and any Jedi who remain stoutly against her are tortured and forcibly transformed into her cyborg slaves.
  • Original 1981 radio drama: Lord Tion, a character original to the radio drama, is the Imperial nobleman placed in charge of the Ralltiir invasion. Tion is a smug sadist who blockades Ralltiir and begins a planetwide crackdown, where he abuses the citizens—rebels or not—with impunity. He establishes torture chambers all across the planet, press-gangs citizens into forced labor, holds executions without proper trial, and happily reminisces on the time he burned alive a group of surrendering rebel leaders who thought they were being invited to a peace talk. Tion intends to involve himself with the Death Star and then wed Princess Leia—on whom he has a crush—to fully assert his power, knowingly abetting the creation of a galaxy-wide regime of fear and terror for the sake of his own advancement.
  • Blood Breed: The owner of the abattoir is a disgraced biologist who was enamored with the cows and decided to create human/cow hybrids. Slaughtering the whole staff of his facility with the help of his son, the owner started to perform various experiments, capturing young women and using them as incubators for his hybrids, which always resulted in women dying. Capturing the protagonist, the owner gleefully tried to make her one of incubators.
  • Chained Echoes:
    • The three Vaen are an ancient and powerful race that once helped defeat and seal away the evil Harbinger, before their power went to their heads and began to see themselves as gods over humanity. To strengthen the Harbinger's prison, the Vaen would periodically release the destructive Grand Grimoire in the world so that it could cause mass devastation to reset human progress and use their souls to reinforce the prison. When the Grand Grimoire is stolen from them, the Vaen are only enraged that someone would dare steal from them, and send their giant champion to kill the thief. When the Crimson Wings kill it, the Vaen create a giant fireball to kill everyone in Valandis with as punishment, showing that despite their claims, they only truly care about maintaining their own power and superiority over mankind.
    • Daimbert was a scientist from Tormund that was interested in transferring souls from one being to another and was exiled over wanting to try human experimentation. Founding the White Rose Inn, Daimbert would pose as a normal innkeeper to abduct passing travelers and experiment on them, such as transferring their souls into another person, which would drive them insane before they killed themselves, or trap their souls inside a flower with them still fully conscious and aware. Abducting Lenne when the party is passing through, Daimbert used her to try to capture the entire party to experiment on them, only to run away when they got free. When confronted by the heroes, Daimbert has the only survivor of his experiments, the little girl Arlette, and orders her to kill them, threatening to beat her if she doesn't.
  • Dragon: Marked for Death: Duchis Medius is the elderly Divine King of the Medius Empire, and claims to be the man closest to the deity Celestial Primatus. Desiring immortality, Duchis manipulates members of the Dragonblood Clan in the kingdom of Maralyus into causing a rebellion, using that as an excuse to send his Divine Knights—led by the Soul Vessel Vasith—to carry out a genocide on the Dragonblood Clan and kidnap their Oracle, Amica, leading to a survivor swearing revenge against him. Encasing Amica in Vasith and forcing her to kill to make her soul more powerful, Duchis attempts to sacrifice both Amica and the survivor to Primatus in an attempt to become a god himself.
  • MOR (link): Miss Frid is Linn's adoptive mother and an "Angelmaker", who adopted several children from parents who couldn't take care of them and then drowned them, continuing to take money from the parents as she pretended to take care of their children. Failing to drown Linn in the past, Miss Frid tried to stop her investigation of her past, and when Linn discovered the cave where Miss Frid had hidden the corpses of the children, Miss Frid had no issue locking the only exit and leaving Linn to starve to death.
  • Astaroth is a golem created by the High Priest Kunpaetku of the cult Fygul Cestemus to retrieve the cursed sword Soul Edge. Intended as a mindlessly loyal slave, Astaroth is granted sapience by the dark god Palgaea and feigns loyalty to the traitorous Kunpaetku while plotting to betray and murder him. Developing a sadistic love of combat and bloodshed, Astaroth hones a brutal fighting style and becomes one of Nightmare's generals when promised the opportunity to kill as much as he wants, plotting to betray Nightmare once Soul Edge is restored to full power. Astaroth rampages across Eurasia, gleefully slaughtering entire villages, butchering Maxi's pirate crew, and goading Kilik into succumbing to his malfestation. Disquieted by the realization that if he gave Soul Edge to Palgaea he would be without purpose, Astaroth tries to kill Ivy Valentine—spitefully revealing that she had been conceived as a spare host for Soul Edge and unwittingly serving it—before being vanquished by Maxi.
  • X-Treme X-Men (2001) "Schism", "Intifada", & "Prisoner of Fire" arcs: Elias Bogan is a reclusive psychic billionaire and consummate mind-rapist who takes a particular interest in breaking the X-Men. Elias Bogan is the original inspiration for the Hellfire Club and its very first Lord Imperial, which already makes him responsible for all the blood they've shed before he even appears on-page. Bogan has a special proclivity for turning people into his shattered "pets", and he repeatedly attempts to subject the X-Men to mental torture and brainwashing, attempting to make them kill their own allies under his control and promising he'll rewire their minds to have them love and beg for the abuse he puts them through. The sickest incident comes when Bogan convinces a young mutant named Jeffrey Garrett and his desperate family to sign on an experiment with the promise of money. Instead, Bogan tortured Jeffrey's entire family until the point Jeffrey had to euthanize them, a fact Bogan cruelly mocks Jeffrey over later. Bogan only takes pleasure in the pain and destruction of others, and has filled an entire library with the archives and knowledge of sheer cruelty he's gathered over the centuries he's been alive.
  • Dr. Hugo Strange is a former associate of Thomas Wayne in the Pinewood Farms project, meant to cure disease but abused by Strange to perform horrifying experiments on patients. When Wayne discovered Strange's deeds and shut the project down, Strange allied himself with the Court of Owls, having Wayne and his wife gunned down in front of their young son, Bruce. Becoming head of Arkham Asylum, Strange continues his torturous experiments on his patients, driving many insane or transforming them into monsters. Discovering how to bring the dead back to life, Strange resurrects Gotham's deceased criminals as raving lunatics who go on to kill numerous innocents while Strange happily accommodates them to commit their crimes. Ordered by the Court to detonate a nuclear device to destroy evidence of his experiments, Strange agrees, apathetic that this may potentially take out much of Gotham City, and later returns to create a Hate Plague from the Tetch virus, driving Gotham into a killing frenzy. Later allying with Nyssa al Ghul when the city devolves into a No Man's Land, Strange mind controls Edward Nygma and an army general into attacking refugees, creates Bane, and attempts to turn Gordon into a similar Super-Soldier to force his aid in the total slaughter of Gotham's populace. Playing everyone as it suited him, Strange proved a narcissistic scientist who cared only for performing his depraved experiments.
  • "What if Palpatine killed Rey and Ben on Exegol?" (link): Palpatine fatally electrocutes his own granddaughter, Rey, along with Ben Solo, before wiping out the whole Resistance. He conquers the galaxy, destroying any star system that opposes him. As Emperor, Palpatine kills or enslaves entire species if he deems them unworthy to exist, and enacts a cleansing of anyone who disagrees with his rule, with many worlds purged. He creates a cult which preaches complete devotion to himself and makes the practice of any other religion punishable by death. When he is not ruling, Palpatine kidnaps many Force-sensitive children and infants to turn to the Dark Side, and conducts experiments to reshape reality to his will.
  • Starbound fanfic The Black Nebula: Desert Tumbler is a dissociative, sadistic novakid outlaw, who treats life as a game to kill as many people as possible. Over the years, Desert has killed thousands of people with no signs of stopping, even collecting some of the corpses to dump out of a ship to show off. When first encountered, Desert attacked a village twice, the second time hiring outlaws to join in on the killing, and detonated a bomb full of hostages inside in front of Katsu Umino, all while taunting him for not saving them. Desert later reveals that he was Ethyl Countrisyde's partner in crime, where he manipulated him into a life of crime, before betraying him for refusing to kill people without reason, being the reason why Ethyl is who he is today. Mika Aikawa would later free Desert from prison if he would help her out with committing genocide on florans, which he accepts so that he could kill more people. During the climax, Desert tries to stop the heroes from de-activating the weapons, willing to let an entire star system be destroyed in the process for the sake of a "new high score" on his kill count, not minding if they were just assists due to the opportunity for that many deaths, all while shooting FEO agents due to being bored of Mika ordering him around.
  • Bump in The Night: Ben Nicolaides is a slimy pornographer who has long realized that the best money is in child porn. Nicolaides runs an operation in which he kidnaps and forces children to commit sexual acts on film, then distributes the tapes across New York to paying pedophiles. When his girlfriend Cheryl allows one of their clients, Lawrence Muller, to personally molest the kidnapped child Jonathan Tierney, Nicolaides beats said girlfriend to death for getting the cops involved, and then tries to murder the client and Jonathan to cover his involvement up and protect his pornography ring.
  • Dice Funk:
    • "Ilium" (Season 3): Gylan Cadun is a vile member of the Order of the Merciful Sword who uses his position to indulge his sadism and prejudices. In the past, Gylan destroyed a village of peaceful Orcs, and when some of his men refused to participate, Gylan had Rolen Hawklight beaten and banished from the Order. When the vampire Count Danto attacked the Order, Gylan sold them out, killed any paladins that resisted, and willingly became a vampire servant of the tyrannical Danto. Gylan then began recruiting people to become vampires within the Order, allowing them to harass and murder whoever they please, and having dozens of people held captive and drained of their blood. When Rolen and Veltari confronted him, Gylan attempted to cut off Rolen's fingers, and then attempted to force a protesting Veltari to murder an innocent man.
    • "Valentine" (Season 4): Saint Luna is the God of Power, created by Semuanya when he died, who forsook the teachings of his father to pursue immortality and gain the power the gods once had. Founding the Crown Corporation, Luna created a system where people struggle to stay out of poverty, brutal Private Military Contractors oppress people in other countries, and the rich force people to commit dangerous crimes for their amusement. Luna kept his true identity secret by magically puppeteering numerous people over the years. In his experiments to achieve immortality, Luna uploaded a man's mind into a computer, deemed the experiment a failure, and locked the man away. Luna eventually created Project Eternity, which granted people immortality. To expand his power, Luna manipulated Catarina Brooks into murdering dozens of Crown employees, forcing her friends to kill her to stop her rampage. When Team Loser tried to track Luna down, Luna ruined William Graves's life before killing him and another man. Luna's ultimate plan is to release Project Eternity at such a high price that anyone who uses it will be stuck in endless debt, effectively becoming Luna's slave for eternity. After his death, it's revealed that Luna aided Aeron with a plan that got countless more people killed.
  • The Prince of Egypt: High Priest Hotep, so-called voice of the gods, is the Treacherous Advisor first to Pharaoh Seti and then Rameses. In truth, Hotep's divine miracles are all staged. When Rameses begins to slip out of line, Hotep threatens him back into place, claiming his power is nothing compared to the High Priest's. Far more evil than both his original counterpart and Rameses himself at the end, when Rameses redeems himself, Hotep commands the armies of Egypt to massacre the fleeing Hebrews himself.
  • Love Esquire's "Amelie Boden's Route": Serena Ives is the game's shopkeeper and secretly a Gegner sleeper agent scheming the fall of Caerulia. Sent to dismantle it in preparation for the Gegner invasion, Serena ran the spy operations to sabotage Caerulia, from pushing the kingdom's corruption through the Black Market, to providing weapons to dangerous people to sow chaos, while poisoning specific people for espionage or to make them an example to potential defectors. When Amelia and the Squire begin to uncover the Gegner spy network after discovering Amelia's mom was actually poisoned because Arnold was a former spy, Serena targeted them next, killing their farm animals as a warning before trying to kill them herself, ending with her winning and the Gegner slaughtering Caerulia or her capture after nearly killing them.
  • Uncle Peter lived inside the wall (link): "Uncle Peter" is a human-eating cryptid that takes over the Narrator's house to live inside a wall and torture his parents during the night. When the Narrator's maid tries to clean Peter's personal hole, Peter murders her and erases most memories of her. Despite seemingly showing a kinder side to the then-infant Narrator, Peter exposes him to violent and sexual content as preparation to force him and his family to participate in horrifying acts. Peter also isolates the Narrator by traumatizing his friends, and when the Narrator gets a girlfriend, Peter mutilates her in indescribable forms and casually eats her organs in front of him, making her one of the hundreds of victims that Peter killed over a decade. Eventually bored of his "family" after they tried to fight back, Peter leaves the Narrator's father permanently unable to use his legs and then frames the entire family for all his murders, smiling as they're arrested for his murders.
  • Dreamland: "Dutch" Dylan is a psychotic enforcer to gangster Len Trexler. Having killed Archer's partner just to watch him die, Dutch enjoys performing hits and dissolves his victims' bodies in acid to sate his blood thirst. After being crippled and having his limbs replaced with mechanical ones, Dutch takes vengeance upon Trexler for the surgery by killing all of his underlings to pose their corpses in a grizzly parody of The Last Supper, and later tries to murder Archer and all of his allies to avenge his injury.

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MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#4558: Feb 26th 2023 at 8:26:07 AM

Okay I want to do some additions and a slight rewrite to one of writeups, as the character has since made more appearances. Namely of Rosalind Dyer from The Rookie.

Here is her write up as it is now:

  • Rosalind Dyer is a vicious killer obsessed with attention. Over two years, she enacted a series of murders by torture with no set victim type, killing men and women of every race and ethnicity. Her methods including peeling the face off a woman; pulling every individual tooth out of the mouth of an anesthesiologist, and removing the hands and feet of a man she drugged so he was paralyzed but conscious. Finally caught, Rosalind was convicted of killing seven people, although her actual total was much higher. Imprisoned, upon meeting up with "Caleb Wright", Rosalind had him enact a twisted plan to keep her game going, first burying the women he killed amongst her still-missing victims and bragging his kills were also hers, playing mind games with the LAPD, and finally having Caleb go after Detective Nick Armstrong, whom she had developed an obsession with for arresting her.

And here's my proposed rewrite:

  • Rosalind Dyer is a genius Serial Killer driven by sadism and an obsession with attention. Over two years, she enacted a series of murders by torture with no set victim type, killing men and women of every race and ethnicity, becoming the most prolific killer in the history of California. Her methods including peeling the face off a woman; pulling every individual tooth out of the mouth of an anesthesiologist, and removing the hands and feet of a man she drugged so he was paralyzed but conscious. Imprisoned, upon meeting up with "Caleb Wright", Rosalind had him enact a twisted plan to keep her game going, first burying the women he killed amongst her still-missing victims, whilst she played mind games with the LAPD, finally having Caleb go after Detective Nick Armstrong who arrested her. Returning for her new trial, Rosalind escaped by corrupting her lawyer into murdering a deputy in exchange for slaughtering her parents, carrying on her murder spree until deciding she wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, she imprisoned Nolan's girlfriend Bailey in a Drowning Pit, attempting to force Nolan to kill her and prove "even saints can become murders."

Thoughts?

Edited by MGD107 on Feb 26th 2023 at 8:37:40 AM

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#4559: Feb 26th 2023 at 5:12:27 PM

The description for Monster.Web Serial Novels reads:

Much like their published counterparts, various forms of web literature have had many especially bad villains.

I suggest adding "traditionally" before "published", since online publishing is still a form of publishing.

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#4560: Feb 26th 2023 at 5:14:11 PM

Good suggestion and agreed. I like the rewrite MGD but there's a chainhole with The Chessmaster just before Serial Killer.

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#4561: Feb 26th 2023 at 5:15:45 PM

Agree with suggestion.

Yes to Rosalind rewrite

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#4562: Feb 27th 2023 at 6:42:32 AM

If no one minds, while I did an MB entry for Arkin from The Collector (2009), I decided to do a slight rewrite to the Collector's CM entry.

Here's his current entry.

  • The title character is a sadistic Serial Killer who breaks into innocent families' homes, turning them into death traps and torturing the residents, including the children, before "collecting" one he likes best, taking them for further torture or killing them through gruesome entomological (insect-related) experiments. His body count is estimated to be in the hundreds, and at the end of the film, he kidnaps the film's protagonist Arkin for such a fate. The sequel, The Collection, opens with the Collector massacring a dance club with his traps, gruesomely murdering at least dozens of innocent partygoers with numerous traps (notably a harvesting combine which grinds up numerous victims, and an elevator which crushes many more), before kidnapping Elena while Arkin made his escape. It is also revealed to that through drugs, torture and imprisonment, his captives were driven insane, used as Cannon Fodder, and kills off a group of mercenaries that Arkin led to his hideout. When the police find the hideout, the Collector decides to simply burn it down

My rewrite isn't much, just fixing the format, and a few repetitions I noticed.

  • The Collector (2009) and The Collection: The title character is a Serial Killer who breaks into families' homes, turning them into death traps and torturing the residents, including the children, before "collecting" one he likes best, taking them for gruesome experiments, abducting Arkin for such a fate. When his crimes are uncovered, it's estimated he's killed hundreds. Opening the sequel, the Collector massacres dozens of partygoers at a dance club with his traps; including a harvesting combine which grinds up numerous victims, and an elevator which crushes many more, kidnapping Elena while Arkin escapes. The Collector sends a hospitalized Arkin a note about coming after his family next. During a rescue mission for Elena, it's revealed the Collector drives his captives to feral madness through extensive torture and drugs; while killing off a group of mercenaries that Arkin led to his hideout, the Collector uses them as attack dogs, before trying to burn down his hideout when the police arrive.

Edited by Beast on Feb 27th 2023 at 6:43:17 AM

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#4563: Feb 27th 2023 at 9:48:28 AM

Speaking of famous film seriAl killers. Does anyone know how to rewrite the Gemini Killer form exorcist III. The current is strangely written.

  • Complete Monster: James Venamun, aka the Gemini Killer—a sobriquet he received due to his carving the Gemini symbol into his victims' hands—had his soul placed into the dying body of Father Damien Karras, but he was already evil before he was executed. While the body recovered, Venamun ended up in an insane asylum, where he used his powers to possess comatose or feeble-minded patients, murdering multiple people in hideously ritualistic ways, including a young boy. Venamun plans to kill forever and never cease, using Father Karras's body upon his exit to, as he says, kill the innocent and Karras's friends, all while Karras is forever trapped within the body, Forced to Watch the depravities his own hands commit.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
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#4564: Feb 27th 2023 at 10:33:31 AM

[up] Tried to rewrite it as an outsider:

  • Complete Monster: James Venamun, known as the Gemini Killer due to carving the gemini symbol in his victims' hands, was an evil man even before being executed and having his soul placed into the dying body of Father Damien Karras. While the body recovered, Venamun ended up in an insane asylum, where he used his powers to possess comatose or feeble-minded patients to murder multiple people—including a young boy—in hideously ritualistic ways. Venamun plans to keep killing for all time, all the while using Father Karras's body upon his exit to kill the innocent and Karras's friends, leaving Karras forever trapped in his own body and Forced to Watch the depravities committed by his own hands.

Crossposting with the MB cleanup, do we still need Sandbox.Monster Quotes? New quotes are proposed on the locked pages thread now, and it’s more than a little tedious to have to update the sandbox every time a new quote is added.

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#4565: Feb 27th 2023 at 10:38:48 AM

Alright here's a possible Rhapthorne rewrite.

Original

  • Rhapthorne, while the characters aren't initially aware of it, is present from the beginning to the end, actively causing all the calamities in the game. His most heinous acts include turning the residents of the castle Trodian into immobile plant people; killing the kind old woman in cold blood, after forcing her to come out by holding her son hostage; and ordering the murder of an unborn child of the Godbird Empryea. He also did most of his work by performing Grand Theft Me, which trapped the victims of that into mental torture.

Rewrite

  • Dragon Quest VIII: Rhapthorne is a cruel being from the World of Darkness who had warred against the denizens of the World of Light before being sealed within the Godbird Sceptre. Possessing anyone who gets in contact with the Sceptre, Rhapthorne would keep them fully aware of their mental torture. Taking control of Dhoulmagus, Rhapthorne then twists the residents of Castle Trodian into immobile plant people. From there Rhapthorne has anyone he possesses systematically wipe out the descendants of the sages who had imprisoned him and anyone else who got in his way. Eventually free from the sceptre, Rhapthorne has armies ravage the world, intending on unleashing a new reign of horror upon civilisation.

How's this look?

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#4566: Feb 27th 2023 at 10:58:39 AM

Some of those are my old entries. Feel free to fix up!

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#4567: Feb 27th 2023 at 11:03:21 AM

I'm questioning this example from YMMV.Blue Stahli:

Here are the song's lyrics. What I've noticed is that the song's narrator never uses "I", only "we". This makes me think that the song isn't sung from the perspective of a single character; rather, it's from the perspective of all of news media. The "you" in the song may also be a generic you, addressed to all angry, unstable people who are on the verge of committing a shooting and feel motivated by the constant coverage such tragedies get, rather than a single man like the writeup suggests.

This would make this example fail the individuality rule.

Edited by Zuxtron on Feb 27th 2023 at 2:04:23 PM

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#4568: Feb 27th 2023 at 11:06:02 AM

Also apolgies if this is a double post but would it be worth restructuring the film section on Transformers? Rather having them clumped in one folder it could be divided like this?

Film Series

     Films 

Original Continuity

  • Starscream is the ambitious and power-hungry lieutenant of the Decepticons, and shows himself to be the evilest member of Megatron's inner circle. A treacherous schemer who took over the Decepticons when Megatron disappeared on Earth, Starscream tricks a group of human astronauts into attacking the Autobots so they will be killed in the firefight and their information on Megatron's whereabouts silenced. When the moral Autobots avoid claiming the humans' lives, Starscream just murders the entire crew himself. Later staging the initial invasion of Earth in his quest for the All-Spark, Starscream has the likes of Blackout, Scorponok, and Barricade wreak havoc across the globe and murder hundreds of humans. After Megatron's revival, Starscream assists him in trying to wipe out humanity with the All-Spark, and aligns himself with the Fallen to destroy Earth's sun, during which Starscream takes Sam Witwicky's parents hostage to achieve their plans. In between these atrocities, Starscream tries to flood Zambia and kill millions; devastates Rome to draw out the Autobots; and brutally murders his human ally Bruno Carrera in petty rage. Ultimately working with Sentinel Prime to enslave and decimate humankind, Starscream plays a key role in the takeover of Chicago by personally bombing the Autobots' ship and massacres any soldiers attempting to infiltrate the city, culminating his sadistic ways in toying with and trying to murder Sam and his girlfriend Carly Brooks-Spencer.
  • Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen: The Fallen, also known as Megatronus Prime, is this film's Big Bad and the film universe's first Decepticon. Originally one of the 7 members of the Dynasty of Primes, The Fallen betrayed his brothers and attempted to use the Star Harvester on Earth's Sun regardless of the Dynasty's code against taking life, solely because of his Fantastic Racism towards primitive humankind. Eons after his defeat, The Fallen corrupts Megatron, creates the Decepticons, and orders him to find the All Spark, making him responsible for the events of the first film. After he lures Optimus Prime to his death using Sam as bait, The Fallen sank an aircraft carrier, attacked several human cities, and slaughtered a sizable military force while acquiring the Matrix of Leadership to activate the Star Harvester again, fully intending to wipe out the human race.
  • Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Sentinel Prime, once a noble Prime who mentored Optimus Prime himself, has succumbed to greed, lust for power, and a desire to be the one god remaining among the Cybertronians. Murdering the Autobot Ironhide and many soldiers to retrieve the Pillars, Sentinel plans to drag Cybertron to earth. Feigning regret to trick Optimus and the Autobots into departure, Sentinel has them seemingly murdered by Starscream and orders the entire city of Chicago massacred so humanity will know their place is slavery or death, with intent to kill the Earth for its resources and use humankind as slaves. When Optimus returns, Sentinel remorselessly tries to murder him, declaring that he will be the single God remaining. In Peter David's Novelization, Sentinel further melts down Skips and Mudflap in a brutal fashion before forcing Agent Mearing to cow to his demands under threat of personally slaughtering countless men, women and children while forcing her to watch, Sentinel later overseeing rampant Autobot tortures and executioner with wry amusement.
  • Transformers: Age of Extinction:
    • Harold Attinger is a cold, calculating CIA operative who creates "Cemetery Wind" under the guise of protecting Earth. In truth, Attinger uses Cemetery Wind to ally with Lockdown in tracking down and butchering countless Transformers across Earth and turning their husks into his personal army. Callous to the lives of innocents and even his own men, Attinger threatens the teenage daughter of Cade Yeager for information, unleashes Galvatron onto a populated area and shrugs off lives lost, and orders Lockdown to go all-out in destroying Optimus Prime, which leads to copious death and destruction through Hong Kong. Planning to use the Cybertronian Seed to create a new breed of Transformers who will be immediately enslaved as war machines, Attinger then tries to murder his business partner and other innocents for crossing him. Attinger claims to want the best for America, but soon enough reveals his true colors of a greedy sociopath who will endanger countless lives to satisfy his privileged, hateful rhetoric against any life that isn't his own.
    • Lockdown is a cruel mercenary with a love for "The Hunt" who has killed countless in his career through the galaxy, having their corpses thrown in the trash and torn to pieces, also capturing numerous specimens and locking them away in his "Collection", bastardizing a Knights of Cybertron ship meant for exploration to do this. Hired by "The Creators" to find Optimus Prime, Lockdown travels to Earth and allies with the genocidal Harold Attinger, killing legions of Transformers with "Cemetery Wind" so their remains could be used to make synthetic slaves, at one point brutally ripping out the Autobot Ratchet's spark. In his hunt for Prime, Lockdown kills the human Lucas with a nightmarish bomb that fries his skin off, later trying to have a teenage girl ripped apart by trash bots. Lockdown then gives Attinger "The Seed" so he could make an endless amount of enslaved mechanical soldiers, and after Prime escapes, Lockdown ravages Hong Kong, destroying several buildings, ships, and causing other mayhem.

Rebooted continuity

  • Bumblebee: Shatter and Dropkick are a pair of Decepticons out to hunt down and kill Optimus Prime. Introduced torturing and murdering the Autobot Cliffjumper, the two arrive on Earth where Dropkick kills a human simply for fun. Directed to the human authorities, the two claim to be peacekeepers hunting down a criminal to give them access to humanity's satellites. After capturing and torturing Bumblebee, the two murder a doctor who was helping them, revealing their intent to bring their forces down on Earth and kill every human being, not stopping until the planet is a cinder. A vicious pair of Brains and Brawn, Shatter and Dropkick embody the worst of the Decepticons.

     Comics 
  • Twilight's Last Gleaming: Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons who defeated the Autobots in the Battle of Mission City, gained possession of the AllSpark, and captured Optimus Prime to keep him frozen alive. After assimilating with the AllSpark, Megatron intended to use its power to cyberform the Earth and wipe out all of humanity, while destroying any and all Autobots who get in his way. A gloating sadist, Megatron does not like to finish his opponents off quickly, as evidenced by when he tried to torture Bumblebee until he begs for mercy and later slowly beating Optimus Prime to death despite being more than powerful enough to take him out instantly. When the AllSpark became unstable and seemingly killed him, Megatron downloaded his consciousness into an interface module so he can enter Starscream's mind. During his time there, Megatron helped Starscream with a plan to use the mind-controlled President Allen to drive the Autobots off of the planet and destroy them with a nuke as they left, leaving humanity defenseless against any Decepticon attacks. Eventually, Megatron convinces Starscream to resurrect him so he can kill their enemies and conquer the Earth for himself.
  • IDW Publishing:
    • Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen: The Fallen himself is portrayed as even worse than his film counterpart. Once a member of the Thirteen Primes, The Fallen came to believe he was destined to become the most powerful of his brothers by re-powering the Allspark, then using it to make himself all powerful. Using the Star Harvester, The Fallen drains the energy from a sun, uncaring that it leads to an entire planet dying, and blames it on one of his own servants when confronted about it. After attempting to use the Star Harvester once more, The Fallen comes to the realization that he no longer needs his Prime "brothers" or the Allspark, prompting instead to travel the universe searching for sapient life, then slaughtering countless worlds of their sapient species, absorbing the knowledge, weapons, and strategies of the billions he slays as he goes along. After butchering his Prime brothers, The Fallen attempts to use the Star Harvester to wipe out the entire Earth, taking extra time to crush humans underfoot while laughing. Though sealed away for thousands of years, The Fallen continues his wicked ways, as he reaches out and corrupts the noble Megatron into waging a war against Optimus Prime and the Autobots, leading to countless deaths and the destruction of Cybertron itself. The Fallen hopes to return to Earth and use the Star Harvester to destroy it for good this time, solely as a final act of spite toward his brothers.
    • Transformers: Dark of the Moon:
      • Shockwave—also in the Foundation and Rising Storm prequel comics—is portrayed as a brutal and remorseless Decepticon assassin. Initially a follower of Sentinel Prime, Shockwave expressed disgruntlement with an age of peace and freedom and, as part of Megatron's Defense Force, eagerly massacred dissenting Cybertronians. Joining the Decepticons, Shockwave became Megatron's most lethal minion, admitting that he enjoys the sounds of dying Autobots. Left in command of the Decepticons on Cybertron, Shockwave waged brutal campaigns against the remaining Autobots. On Earth, Shockwave murders Autobots Longarm and Salvage and the entire crew of an oil processing plant. Enslaving the drone Brains to build a cage for his Driller, Shockwave plans to terminate him when he is no longer useful. When Brains escapes, Shockwave kills Deadlift for simply being in his way. Shockwave goes on a killing spree in the NEST base, killing everyone in his path, including traumatized Autobot refugees. Even the death of the Driller, his pet, fails to rouse any emotion from Shockwave.
      • Dylan Gould is portrayed as a sadistic psychopath with delusions of grandeur. Having willingly allied with Decepticons years back, Gould covers up the Decepticons' plans and presence from the public eye, having anyone who attempts to learn the truth murdered by his personal Decepticon attack dog, Laserbeak. Once the Decepticons reveal themselves and attack the Earth, Gould uses Sam Witwicky to spy on the Autobots under threat of slaughtering his girlfriend, Carly, and giddily gives the order for the Autobots to be shot down while they are attempting to leave the Earth. Masterminding the invasion of Chicago, Gould has the Decepticons kill countless people and destroy much of the city while turning it into a fortress. Gould ultimately plans to assist the Decepticons in transporting as much of humanity to Cybertron as possible, then use them as slaves to rebuild Cybertron while Gould lords over them as their master. Even when the Autobots and humans begin defeating the Decepticons, Gould still activates the portal to bring Cybertron to Earth, completely eliminating any possible claims he had to not being fully complicit in the Decepticons' actions. Always wearing a smile and having a witty quip on hand to cover up his raving egomania, Gould truly represents the very worst humans have to offer.

Rebooted continuity

  • Bumblebee Prequel Comic: Malignus is a Mini-Con whose small size belies his apocalyptic ambitions. Leading a cabal of Decepticons during the Cold War, Malignus intends to provoke a nuclear conflict that would wipe out the human race, allowing him to plunder the planet for its Cybertronian treasures. Throughout the globe, Malignus organizes False Flag Operations and assassinations of top officials from both Eastern and Western Blocs, raising tensions between the two sides. When Bumblebee and his human companions raid the Decepticons' base, Malignus tries to have them fed to his Sharkticons, and then fires a nuclear warhead directly at the Soviet Union when they escape and nearly foil his scheme.

     Games 

  • Transformers:
    • Console video game: Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons, who waged war on his home planet Cybertron, resulting in it dying and all surviving Cybertronians being forced to flee from it. In search of the Allspark, Megatron came to Earth and got frozen in the Arctic. In the Decepticon campaign, Megatron, immediately after getting freed, orders his Decepticons to hunt down and kill all the Autobots. After they killed all of the Autobots aside from Optimus Prime, Megatron started to destroy a city, simply as a way to lure Optimus Prime out. Succeeding at that, Megatron managed to kill Optimus Prime and get his hands on the Allspark, invading the Earth and exterminating humanity, before proclaiming that he is finished with Earth.
    • DS video game: Megatron lacks his film counterpart's nobler traits and replaces it with raw brutality. Having plunged Cybertron into civil war after killing his own father, Megatron tore out Bumblebee's vocal processor when he launched the Allspark into space. He followed the Allspark to Earth, but wound up frozen in the Arctic Circle. After being thawed out by his followers, Megatron's murderous rage was only tempered when they planned to blow up Hoover Dam and drown thousands of people. In Autobots, Megatron used the Allspark to terrorize the city of Tranquility and mortally wounded Create-A-Bot while trying to kill his own brother, Optimus Prime. In Decepticons, he tracked down and murdered Jazz after he foiled his plot to destroy Hoover Dam. After terrorizing Tranquility, Megatron killed Optimus and hunted down his traitorous lieutenant Starscream. Create-A-Con was gravely wounded after helping him defeat Starscream, and Megatron chose to kill him rather than waste resources trying to repair him. Megatron showed no remorse for the Decepticons who gave their lives for him and believed that the weak were only meant to serve the strong.
  • Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen:
    • PS 3/Xbox 360/PC video game:
      • The Fallen is the original Decepticon and one of the 13 original Primes, who betrayed his "brothers" by slaughtering them for refusing to use their Star Harvester to harvest the Earth's sun for Energon, because they didn't want to doom the life on the planet. Ordering the Decepticons to wreak havoc and kill humans and Autobots, The Fallen has them revive Megatron. In the Decepticon campaign, The Fallen uses Megatron to find the Star Harvester, promising to make him a Prime, intending to betray him as soon as he succeeds. When Megatron confronted him about a lie, The Fallen immediately tries to kill him, using countless Decepticons as Cannon Fodder, while intending to not only destroy all life on Earth, but harvest countless stars and worlds across the galaxy.
      • Starscream is the treacherous right hand of Megatron, who immediately took over as the leader of the Decepticon forces after Megatron died. Coordinating and organizing the Decepticon attacks on cities and military bases, Starscream encourages Decepticons to kill more innocent humans along the way. As his troops succeed to kill some Autobots, Starscream kidnaps and extract information about Mikaela Banes, Sam Witwicky's girlfriend, from a group of innocent people, killing them in process, and planning to kill Sam and Mikaela as well, Starscream has his troops search for them. Later on, assisting The Fallen in his attempts at harvesting Earth's sun, thus destroying all life on the planet, Starscream destroys a large museum full of people, trying to catch Sam and the ancient Seeker Jetfire.
    • PS 2/Wii video game: Megatron is the former leader of the Decepticons, who lost his position after dying at Optimus Prime's hands. After he got revived by the Fallen, Megatron was angry at the fact that The Fallen took away his leadership over the Decepticons. Barely tolerating his "new master", Megatron orders his Combining Mecha Devastator to spread chaos and destruction all over Shanghai, destroying large parts of the Chinese city, simply so he can get the piece of the Allspark. Destroying human military bases, Megatron assists The Fallen in his attempts at destroying all life on Earth simply so he can have a victory over the Autobots.

Edited by WetFlannels on Feb 28th 2023 at 4:30:24 PM

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Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
#4569: Feb 27th 2023 at 11:20:59 AM

Not sure on the song guy, but I like the Transformers reorganization, the current one is a bit cramped

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MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#4570: Feb 27th 2023 at 12:13:06 PM

[tup] to rewrites and transformer reorganisation.

Don't know about the song guy.

43: Ah yes, sorry I missed that. I tweaked it a bit so the first sentence flowed better and cut the bit describing specific murders as it felt a bit unnecessary. How does it look now?

  • The Rookie: Rosalind Dyer is a vicious Serial Killer, notorious for her complex gambits, and driven by a combination sadism and an obsessed with attention. Over two years, she enacted a series of murders by torture and mutilation with no set victim type, killing random men and women of every race and ethnicity making her the most prolific killer in the history of California. Imprisoned, upon meeting up with "Caleb Wright", Rosalind had him enact a twisted plan to keep her game going, first burying the women he killed amongst her still-missing victims, whilst she played mind games with the LAPD, finally having Caleb go after Detective Nick Armstrong who arrested her. Returning for her new trial, Rosalind escaped by corrupting her lawyer into murdering a deputy in exchange for slaughtering her parents, carrying on her murder spree until deciding she wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, she imprisoned Nolan's girlfriend Bailey in a Drowning Pit, attempting to force Nolan to kill her to prove "even saints can become murders."

Overlord Since: Mar, 2013
#4571: Feb 27th 2023 at 7:02:34 PM

Harley Quinn: Reckoning has a page now, so let's update the DC literature page with this link.

Braz The Digital from Cyberspace (Troper in training) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The Digital
#4572: Feb 27th 2023 at 7:15:55 PM

My first cleanup and after playing the fangames, I feel this character don't qualify.


YMMV.Five Nights At Candys.

  • Complete Monster: RAT was a callous, violent alcoholic in life, until one of his coworkers killed him in self-defense after he tried to strangle him to death for demanding he go home after showing up to work drunk. Since he was playing hide-and-seek with Mary Schmidt at the time of his death, he blamed her for it and retaliated by mutilating her brother in front of her and a crowd of people when he possessed his old costume. This results in Mary having terrifying nightmares, which then enters as Shadow RAT to torture her mentally. When Mary became a security guard at Candy's years later, he gleefully attempted to kill her then but failed. After Mary was fired, RAT brutally ripped apart Chester, one of his fellow animatronics, for opening the door to his room. He then killed a night guard and got Candy framed for the deed, resulting in the sapient Animatronics being left to rot in their old robotics factory. When Marylin, Mary's daughter, arrived at the factory on a dare, he attempts to kill her too. If he gets her, her wounds would be considered those of a bear attack.

The only reason he don't qualify is that he isn't heinous enough: he only has two kill, with one not even lasting. He killed a night guard and framed Candy for it sure, but any animatronic can do it if they try hard enough. He also dismantled Chester when he entered his room, but he was rebuilt anyway by Penguin.

Mary's brother was recovered anyway after a stay in the hospital.

The part about the game over is also shared with CAT, with CAT killing two twin children that entered the factory through the conveyor belt during a minigame from the third game, effectively outheinousing the RAT.

For these reasons, he should be Cut.

DoodSlayer136 Woagh from Pizza Tower (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Woagh
#4573: Feb 27th 2023 at 7:47:15 PM

Oh yeah, the RAT. Me and Unknown were thinking of covering FNAC 4 when it comes out and keeping up the original beforehand, but honestly don't see a problem with cutting him for now and re-evaluating him if he shows up later.

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SumDumNerd Current mood: sick of your shit from the Ever After Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#4575: Feb 27th 2023 at 11:09:42 PM

Found this on YMMV.Kingdom Hearts 358 Days Over 2 under the Manga section.

Kind of a Zero-Context Example, so I've hidden it for now.

Edited by Karxrida on Feb 27th 2023 at 11:15:30 AM

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