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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#2076: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:30:13 AM

If it gets locked (so it won't grow), the commented out ZCE should probably be removed. But removing the commented out ZCE might remove the warning.

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#2077: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:34:23 AM

It's always possible to find new tropes in a completed work. Deleting the commented-out ZCEs might be the best first step, though I question whether Unpublished Works pages need recap folders...

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2078: Mar 28th 2021 at 11:47:59 AM

Sandbox.Sonic The Hedgehog Heroes

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#2079: Mar 28th 2021 at 12:01:57 PM

Hey guys. I went to add a wick to The Problem with Licensed Games and saw a warning about the page being too long. Should we perhaps split the page by medium?

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#2080: Mar 28th 2021 at 12:34:35 PM

[up] There is a pretty wide variation to how many examples there are per medium. It might make sense to just pull off the largest folder or two? Right now, I think that would be Film - Live Action/ (which is really not that surprising.)

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#2081: Mar 28th 2021 at 3:39:09 PM

Re: Sonic Sandbox

Best if we split off Sonic and Shadow into their own pages.

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#2082: Mar 31st 2021 at 7:38:53 AM

Characters.Digimon Champion Digimon

Edited by costanton11 on Mar 31st 2021 at 9:39:04 AM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#2083: Mar 31st 2021 at 8:29:59 AM

Re: The Spectacular Gargoyles. Wingedcatgirl questions the recap folders. Upon another viewing, I question the character folders. The tropes appear mostly to be things they did in canon, not unique to the RP.

Ex:

Goliath:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Gargoyles_Goliath_964.jpg
Leader of the Manhattan Clan. Goliath was chosen by the leaders of the London, Mayan and Ishimura clans to act as overall Leader of the newly formed Gargoyle Nation.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2084: Mar 31st 2021 at 8:39:48 AM

Really makes me think about my "Imported Trope" idea... For when fanfics use the exact same tropes as their sources...

But in this is a whole Imported Character, like Expy is Exported Character, but with 0 changes.


UsefulNotes.Windows Games... 2862. 138 more until too big... Many Edutainment Game, and a few others:

    Let's count (17) 

    From Sandbox.Windows Games (122) 


Unknown system:

Edited by Malady on Jul 4th 2021 at 8:17:55 AM

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#2085: Apr 9th 2021 at 8:52:27 AM

Memes.US Politics 2016 Election Onward has the warning. Guess we'll have to a) weed out some memes with the help of the memes cleanup thread, or b) split off Trump into his own page.

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Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2086: Apr 9th 2021 at 9:46:38 AM

[up] Isn't Memes.Donald Trump PRLC'd? I don't think a separate (unlocked, anyway) Trump page is something we can risk, especially since he was acquitted and can run in 2024.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#2087: Apr 9th 2021 at 11:59:01 AM

[up][up] I assume you mean the folder "2017–2021 (Trump Era)", rather than Trump himself in general? Makes sense: it's the longest folder, and that era is over, so if any new Trump memes pop up they'd go in a different section.

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#2088: Apr 17th 2021 at 6:52:16 PM

Mobile Suit Gundam SEED has the banner.

As does Sentinels of the Multiverse — Heroes.

Edited by Tabs on Apr 22nd 2021 at 12:26:55 PM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#2089: Apr 23rd 2021 at 11:42:00 AM

Problem. The Spectacular Gargoyles is still too long after deleting the recap. I'm getting rid of the character section. An unpublished work is not worth breaking the server over.

HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#2091: Apr 24th 2021 at 10:10:15 PM

While changing wicks, I saw that Azur Lane Eagle Union, Troper Entries: A-M, and Troper Entries: N-Z were giving the "too long" error message.

I broke them up into more manageable chunks.

HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#2092: May 13th 2021 at 4:32:18 AM

I've made enough of a dent in TropesThatWillNeverHappen.X Meets Y that it's no longer showing the Too Long message. I really shouldn't have went with "broken up by first letter of entry/thread" — This is going to take awhile even though I'm not bothering to alphabetize anything.

(I did alphabetize SuspiciouslySimilarSong.Video Games, and let me say that fucking suuuuuucked.)

Otherwise, I've finished clearing out the entries on Administrivia.Overly Long Pages to the best of my ability, and that Sonic Sandbox up there.

Edited by HeavyMetalHermitCrab on May 13th 2021 at 4:33:20 AM

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#2093: May 17th 2021 at 4:03:50 PM

WMG.Harry Potter Main is still on Administrivia.Locked Pages citing it being too large to edit, even though that is no longer the case.

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#2094: May 20th 2021 at 10:22:53 AM

Anime & Manga and Western Animation are so long that the editor lags when you try to edit them.

The former could be splitted into Anime And Manga North America and Anime And Manga Not American TV, don't know the latter.

The best character is always the one-shot disguise.
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#2095: May 20th 2021 at 11:46:55 AM

Oh boy. If you're willing to alphabetize the real life examples folder, then maybe the page can be broken into Western Animation A-L, M-Z while the in-universe examples stay on the page and go under the "index".

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#2096: May 20th 2021 at 8:46:05 PM

[up]For GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.Western Animation, I would prefer the split be by Children's Animation, Youth Animation, and Adult Animation based on the original target demographic of the country of origin. MLP: FiM (Canadian based on American IP with an American creator) would be considered Children's Animation (despite Bronies) and Simpsons (American (creator is a son of a Canadian)) would be considered Adult Animation (despite being rated PG and winning the Nick Kids' Choice Awards once). I would consider Avatar: The Last Airbender (American but inspired by anime) Youth Animation.

Edited by Nen_desharu on May 20th 2021 at 11:52:59 AM

Kirby is awesome.
HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#2097: May 21st 2021 at 7:53:58 AM

I can start on alphabetizing when I get off work this evening. That strikes me as the best way to do these things, since the target audience is a nebulous thing

Edited by HeavyMetalHermitCrab on May 21st 2021 at 7:54:47 AM

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#2098: May 21st 2021 at 7:56:29 AM

Yeah, let's stick with alphabetizing.

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#2099: May 21st 2021 at 9:13:29 PM

[up]That would actually be a better idea.

Alphabetizing is much less subjective, especially if we stick to the titles in the original language and region.

Edited by Nen_desharu on May 21st 2021 at 12:13:50 PM

Kirby is awesome.
HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#2100: May 22nd 2021 at 5:33:29 AM

Well, I did the best I could with both pages. (Yes, I did sleep as well. >:P)

As far as what I alphabetized by, in practice I usually did it by the original series unless there was a separate page for the Bowdlerized version. That's why Battle of the Planets is under B, but Knights of the Zodiac is under its original title Saint Seiya.

The Hasselhoff page is just straight-up alphabetized.

I split off any series with ridiculously long entries to their own pages.

On Bowdlerize, I wasn't sure how to handle the series that have two entries talking about different things. Maybe I'll look again after I clear my head, but I'm not exactly sure what the best way of handling that is.

I'm sure I wasn't 100% consistent

Edited by HeavyMetalHermitCrab on May 22nd 2021 at 5:33:58 AM


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