Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.
It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine
They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.
I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.
another programmer's thing
Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning
Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM
It's always possible to find new tropes in a completed work. Deleting the commented-out ZCEs might be the best first step, though I question whether Unpublished Works pages need recap folders...
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.Sandbox.Sonic The Hedgehog Heroes
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Hey guys. I went to add a wick to The Problem with Licensed Games and saw a warning about the page being too long. Should we perhaps split the page by medium?
<(0_0<) <(0_0)> (>0_0)> KIRBY DANCEThere is a pretty wide variation to how many examples there are per medium. It might make sense to just pull off the largest folder or two? Right now, I think that would be Film - Live Action/ (which is really not that surprising.)
Re: Sonic Sandbox
Best if we split off Sonic and Shadow into their own pages.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportCharacters.Digimon Champion Digimon
Edited by costanton11 on Mar 31st 2021 at 9:39:04 AM
Re: The Spectacular Gargoyles. Wingedcatgirl questions the recap folders. Upon another viewing, I question the character folders. The tropes appear mostly to be things they did in canon, not unique to the RP.
Ex:
Goliath:
Leader of the Manhattan Clan. Goliath was chosen by the leaders of the London, Mayan and Ishimura clans to act as overall Leader of the newly formed Gargoyle Nation.- Authority Equals Asskicking
- Badass Baritone: 'Cause it's Keith David, duh.
- Beast and Beauty: With Elisa.
- Cultured Badass
- Deadpan Snarker: Once in a blue moon.
- Determinator
- The Fettered
- Genius Bruiser: He spends every spare moment in the library reading.
- Heartbroken Badass: While he's mostly over Demona, his feelings for her are still many and mixed.
- Heroic Build
- Heroic Resolve
- Heroic Sacrifice: If this universe is the same as Greg's "Rhapsody" fanfic, he sacrifices his life to save humanity from Demona in 2056.
- Heroic Spirit
- Heroic Willpower
- Hurting Hero: Above all, Goliath's defining trait is that he goes on being good - setting his castle before his clan, his clan before himself. And he keeps getting hurt for it. The big one-two punch is losing his true love and his entire tenth-century world in the very first episode, but he goes on to be repeatedly hurt, betrayed, robbed and driven from his home. The writers didn't sit down at the storyboarding session each week with the comment, "How can we mess with the big guy this week?" - but you'd never know it from watching the show.
- Interspecies Romance: With Elisa Maza
- The Leader: He replaced Hudson pre-series and led the clan until he left for Avalon. At that point he put Brooklyn in charge. While he values wisdom the others follow him because they believe in him.
- Named After Somebody Famous: After the biblical character Goliath.
- Papa Wolf: Do NOT EVER harm any member (human and gargoyle) of Goliath's clan. Believe me, you'll be wishing you hadn't.
- Tall, Dark, and Handsome: From a gargoyle (and Elisa's) standpoint.
- Team Dad
- Thou Shalt Not Kill: He does not have a problem with killing enemies in the heat of battle, but does when it comes to executing helpless or subdued foes.
- Warrior Poet
Really makes me think about my "Imported Trope" idea... For when fanfics use the exact same tropes as their sources...
But in this is a whole Imported Character, like Expy is Exported Character, but with 0 changes.
UsefulNotes.Windows Games... 2862. 138 more until too big... Many Edutainment Game, and a few others:
- The Adventures of Ninja Nanny & Sherrloch Sheltie
- Big Thinkers!
- The ClueFinders
- The ClueFinders 3rd Grade Adventures: The Mystery of Mathra
- The ClueFinders 4th Grade Adventures: The Puzzle of the Pyramid
- The ClueFinders 5th Grade Adventures: The Secret of the Living Volcano
- The ClueFinders 6th Grade Adventures: The Empire of the Plant People
- The ClueFinders Reading Adventures Ages 9–12: Mystery of the Missing Amulet
- The Confines of the Crown
- Cute Knight Kingdom
- Cyber Grannies
- Date Warp
- Dungeon Keeper 2
- Janes USAF
- Magical Diary
- Police Quest: SWAT 2
- Science Girls!
- Sword Daughter
- Bug!
- Comet Busters!
- Dark Seed
- Dare to Dream
- Garfield: Caught in the Act
- Iron Helix
- Minesweeper
- Puyo Puyo
- Pyst
- Shivers
- Shivers Two: Harvest of Souls
- SkiFree
- Sonic's Schoolhouse
- Urban Runner
- The Yukon Trail
- Zeddas Servants Of Sheol
- Black & White
- Comix Zone
- The Fairly Odd Parents Shadow Showdown
- Final Fantasy
- Gabriel Knight
- Gex
- Glover
- Kao the Kangaroo
- King's Quest: Mask of Eternity
- Pharaoh
- Riven
- Sonic The Hedgehog
- Blue Sphere
- SWAT 3
- Ultima IX
- Crazy Taxi
- Cute Knight
- Fur Fighters
- Hulk
- Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude
- NightFire
- Nosferatu: The Wrath of Malachi
- The Sims 2
- Space Colony
- SWAT 4
- True Crime: Streets of LA
- Around the World in 80 Days
- Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
- Call of Juarez
- Cradle Series
- Grand Theft Auto
- Luxor
- Magic Shop
- Miss Management
- Musaic Box
- Peggle
- Puzzle Quest
- Sonic Riders
- Spandex Force
- Touhou Luna Nights
- 4 Elements
- 80 Days
- Alien Rage
- Aliens: Colonial Marines
- Alone in the Dark
- The Angry Video Game Nerd Adventures
- The Angry Video Game Nerd II: ASSimilation
- BattleBlock Theater
- Brütal Legend
- Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
- Castle Crashers
- Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2
- Citizens of Earth
- Costume Quest
- CrossCode
- Crysis
- Cyber Shadow
- Factorio
- Gems of War
- GhostControl Inc.
- Leisure Suit Larry
- Leisure Suit Larry: Wet Dreams Don't Dry
- Leisure Suit Larry: Wet Dreams Dry Twice
- Touhou Kishinjou ~ Double Dealing Character
- Danmaku Amanojaku ~ Impossible Spell Card
- Touhou Shinpiroku ~ Urban Legend in Limbo
- Touhou Kanjuden ~ Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom
- War Thunder
- 10th Corpse
- Agony (2018)
- Atelier
- Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland
- Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland
- Atelier Meruru: The Apprentice of Arland
- Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
- Atelier Firis: The Alchemist and the Mysterious Journey
- Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings
- Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk
- Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky
- Sonic Dash
- Trials of Mana
- Tribal Hunter
- Battletoads 2020
- Bendy and the Ink Machine
- Candy Crush Saga
- Death Stranding
- Dragon Quest XI
- Drawn to Life
- Fall Guys: Ultimate Knockout
- Godfall
- Half-Life: Alyx
- Halo Infinite
- Hanako
- Iron Harvest
- Kingdom Hearts
- Kingdom Hearts
- Kingdom Hearts II
- Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance]
- Kingdom Hearts 0.2: Birth by Sleep -A fragmentary passage-
- Kingdom Hearts III
- Legend of Mana
- Yakuza: Like a Dragon
- Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links
- Anatomy
- Brawlhalla
- Craz'd!
Unknown system:
Edited by Malady on Jul 4th 2021 at 8:17:55 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Memes.US Politics 2016 Election Onward has the warning. Guess we'll have to a) weed out some memes with the help of the memes cleanup thread, or b) split off Trump into his own page.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportIsn't Memes.Donald Trump PRLC'd? I don't think a separate (unlocked, anyway) Trump page is something we can risk, especially since he was acquitted and can run in 2024.
I assume you mean the folder "2017–2021 (Trump Era)", rather than Trump himself in general? Makes sense: it's the longest folder, and that era is over, so if any new Trump memes pop up they'd go in a different section.
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED has the banner.
As does Sentinels of the Multiverse — Heroes.
Edited by Tabs on Apr 22nd 2021 at 12:26:55 PM
Problem. The Spectacular Gargoyles is still too long after deleting the recap. I'm getting rid of the character section. An unpublished work is not worth breaking the server over.
Left a note on the discussion page for Sentinels of the Multiverse — Heroes.
While changing wicks, I saw that Azur Lane Eagle Union, Troper Entries: A-M, and Troper Entries: N-Z were giving the "too long" error message.
I broke them up into more manageable chunks.
I've made enough of a dent in TropesThatWillNeverHappen.X Meets Y that it's no longer showing the Too Long message. I really shouldn't have went with "broken up by first letter of entry/thread" — This is going to take awhile even though I'm not bothering to alphabetize anything.
(I did alphabetize SuspiciouslySimilarSong.Video Games, and let me say that fucking suuuuuucked.)
Otherwise, I've finished clearing out the entries on Administrivia.Overly Long Pages to the best of my ability, and that Sonic Sandbox up there.
Edited by HeavyMetalHermitCrab on May 13th 2021 at 4:33:20 AM
WMG.Harry Potter Main is still on Administrivia.Locked Pages citing it being too large to edit, even though that is no longer the case.
Anime & Manga and Western Animation are so long that the editor lags when you try to edit them.
The former could be splitted into Anime And Manga North America and Anime And Manga Not American TV, don't know the latter.
The best character is always the one-shot disguise.Oh boy. If you're willing to alphabetize the real life examples folder, then maybe the page can be broken into Western Animation A-L, M-Z while the in-universe examples stay on the page and go under the "index".
For GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.Western Animation, I would prefer the split be by Children's Animation, Youth Animation, and Adult Animation based on the original target demographic of the country of origin. MLP: FiM (Canadian based on American IP with an American creator) would be considered Children's Animation (despite Bronies) and Simpsons (American (creator is a son of a Canadian)) would be considered Adult Animation (despite being rated PG and winning the Nick Kids' Choice Awards once). I would consider Avatar: The Last Airbender (American but inspired by anime) Youth Animation.
Edited by Nen_desharu on May 20th 2021 at 11:52:59 AM
Kirby is awesome.I can start on alphabetizing when I get off work this evening. That strikes me as the best way to do these things, since the target audience is a nebulous thing
Edited by HeavyMetalHermitCrab on May 21st 2021 at 7:54:47 AM
Yeah, let's stick with alphabetizing.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportThat would actually be a better idea.
Alphabetizing is much less subjective, especially if we stick to the titles in the original language and region.
Edited by Nen_desharu on May 21st 2021 at 12:13:50 PM
Kirby is awesome.Well, I did the best I could with both pages. (Yes, I did sleep as well. >:P)
As far as what I alphabetized by, in practice I usually did it by the original series unless there was a separate page for the Bowdlerized version. That's why Battle of the Planets is under B, but Knights of the Zodiac is under its original title Saint Seiya.
The Hasselhoff page is just straight-up alphabetized.
I split off any series with ridiculously long entries to their own pages.
On Bowdlerize, I wasn't sure how to handle the series that have two entries talking about different things. Maybe I'll look again after I clear my head, but I'm not exactly sure what the best way of handling that is.
I'm sure I wasn't 100% consistent
Edited by HeavyMetalHermitCrab on May 22nd 2021 at 5:33:58 AM
If it gets locked (so it won't grow), the commented out ZCE should probably be removed. But removing the commented out ZCE might remove the warning.