once you are done

@Wootzits He would be the canine counterpart to Caesar, who also led his own uprising against humans. Caesar himself is a lot more compassionate than Hagen but even his revolution was quite bloody.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Jun 28th 2020 at 11:02:05 AM

Uni cat

Kor, god of seemingly-wise elders who are eviler than they appear to be (Metal Kor)

Reason: Kor, the true main antagonist of Jak II, should represent Wise Old Folk Façade because he succeeds in representing that trope both figuratively and literally. He qualifies figuratively because he acts calmly and wisely around Jak, the game’s protagonist, whereas in actuality he’s short-tempered and impatient. When they first meet, Kor is the one to suggest to Jak that he join The Underground, a resistance movement founded to oppose the tyrannical rule of apparent Big Bad Baron Praxis.

Meanwhile, Kor is eligible for this trope in the literal sense because the "old folk" part is as much of a facade as the personality he gives off. By the end of the game, he reveals that he’s not an old man, but rather the leader of an Eldritch Abomination race called the Metal Heads. He disguised himself as a human the whole time and pretended to side with the good guys so he could get ahold of the Precursor Stone (An artifact sealed beneath the city where the game takes place, which would give him and his subordinates the boost of energy they needed to destroy said city).

Arugula Moondancer

Would Doomguy be more appropriate as a guardian in the House of War or just placed in Soldiers And Warriors like usual?

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!

There's already 4 guardians with adequate profiles so the latter is preferable.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Jun 28th 2020 at 10:12:10 PM

Retired effective March 1, 2022

Yeah, as much as I'd like him to be a Guardian, I think he'll be fine in Soldiers And Warriors.

Added more flavor text, as well as some minor revisions. Anything else needed or is this profile good to go?

"1941. The Desert Fox, Field Marshal Erwin Rommel, arrives in Libya to assume command of the Afrika Korps. Within a few months, Rommel, the rising star of the German Army, recaptures the territory taken by the British and Commonwealth Forces prior to his arrival. Despite being heavily outnumbered by the British Forces, the superior range and armor of the German tanks allows the Afrika Korps to take the fight to the Allies. By July of 1942, the Desert Fox and his unstoppable Afrika Korps, in a series of classic Blitzkrieg attacks, pushes the British Forces eastward, across the deserts of Libya, and into Egypt. Now in late 1942, holding their ground a mere 60 miles from the Egyptian capital of Cairo, British Field Marshal Montgomery's forces, including the Desert Rats of the 7th Armored Division, prepare to blunt the German offensive, and regain the initiative."

Sgt. John Davis and Tank Commander David Welsh, Patron Saints of Desert Warfare (Davis, Welsh: Fox Three)

• Themes:
  • Both: Libya Desert Sea
    • Davis: British Decoytrenches, Beltot Tough Road Ahead, Toujane Armoredcar crash
    • Welsh: Libya Charge Crusader, 88 ridge approaching ridge, 88 ridge Crusader Victory
• Demigods
• Symbol: The insignia◊ of the British 7th Armored Division
• Alignments: Lawful Good
• Portfolio:
  • Both men: Specializing in combat in the vast Sahara Desert, Player Characters, Heroic Mimes, Suddenly shifting from infantry to tank action, Keeping personal records inbetween their respective battles
  • Davis: Preferring the Lee-Enfield rifle, Being the central focus of his campaign and having the most missions focused on his story
  • Welsh: Commanding Coolness, Averting one-man crewing of his tank, Commanding a British Crusader Mk. III tank, Fighting against Panzers in the Libyan desert, A Day in the Limelight
• Allies:
  • British Forces: Lance Corporal Jack Jones, Captain John Price, Captain John 'Soap' MacTavish, Warspite
  • US Forces: Lt. Randall and Sgt. Bill Taylor, Lt. Mike Powell, Sgt. Jack Barnes, Lt. Karl Fairburne, Pvt. Robert Zussman
  • Soviet Forces: Viktor Reznov, Pvt. Dimitri Petrenko
  • Other: Darjeeling, Indiana Jones, BJ Blaskowicz, Amuro Ray, Shiro Amada
• Enemies:
  • Nazi Germany: General Heinz Bohm, Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse, Johann Schmidt, Waffen-SS, Nazi Storm Elite, Arnold Ernst Toht, Rudolf von Stroheim
  • Other: Desert Seltas and Desert Seltas Queen
• Oppose:
  • Both men: Captain Martin Walker
  • Davis: The Basterds
• Conflicted Opinion: Maho Nizhizumi, The Anglerfish Team
• Members of the famous 7th Armored Division, better known as the "Desert Rats", Sgt. John Davis and Tank Commander David Welsh are both long-time veterans of the grueling North African campaign. Davis fought as an infantryman, while Welsh commanded a Crusader Mk. III cruiser tank.
• Davis' baptism of fire was at the Second Battle of El Alamein, where, under the command of one Captain Price, took part in several defensive, diversionary, and later offensive battles against elements of the Afrika Korps. He would then see action again during the Tunisia campaign, where he took part in vicious fighting to secure the route to Tunis.
• Welsh, on the other hand, was known to have fought during the British advance into Libya in January 1943, where he engaged Panzers of the Afrika Korps in a massive Epic Tank-on-Tank Action. In addition, he's also destroyed several 88mm Anti-Armor guns during one of these battles.
• In addition to fighting in North Africa, Davis is also a veteran of the Normandy campaign, specifically in the Battles for Caen. During these numerous engagements, he's known to have destroyed 3 Tiger I heavy tanks while helping to secure the 7th Armored Division's advance and securing of the areas near Caen.
• Of special note is that Davis is The Protagonist of his story's respective British campaign, with 11 out of 13 missions being from his perspective. Welsh, by contrast, is more of a case of being A Day in the Limelight, with him and his crew only playable in 2 missions.
• Both men also notably kept a Diary, each containing important information regarding their upcoming battles. Davis kept diaries detailing important parts of the El Alamein, Tunisia, and Normandy campaigns, while Welsh's diaries described the deserts of Libya as well as the German tanks and anti-tank guns they repeatedly faced.
• While it is unknown what happened to both men following their last known battles, it is heavily implied that they both survived the war. However, thanks to their impressive actions and feats in the deserts of North Africa, it has been decided to ascend them as the Patron Saints of Desert Warfare.
• Because of this, both of them ascended as how they had looked during the latter parts of the North Africa campaign, with Davis wearing a short sleeved tunic and short pants, while Welsh ascends alongside the Crusader tank he had last commanded (albeit without the rest of his crew).
• Immediately, both Welsh and Davis link up with any Allied forces they can find. Eventually, both men are found by Rangers Lt. Randall and Sgt. Bill Taylor, who immediately take them to the other Allied deities present in the Pantheon. Despite taking orders from Americans due to a lack of WWII-era British officers in the Pantheon, they nonetheless decide to do what they can to aid their allies in the fight against the Nazis lurking in the Pantheon.
• Upon finally meeting the aforementioned Lt. Randall and Sgt. Bill Taylor in person for the first time in the Pantheon, Davis sincerely apologizes to the two men about his failure to save two of their fellow Rangers in time. The aforementioned men were badly wounded POWs Davis and the rest of his unit had found being held at a German aid station. It was heavily implied that these Rangers were captured by the Germans during the failed German counterattack at Point du Hoc.
• When Davis hears about a Captain Price being in the Pantheon, he immediately decides to report to who he thinks is his former superior officer from the North African and Normandy campaigns. When he finally meets him, however, he soon realizes that the Captain Price in question is not the man he had served under During the War. However, when Price notices the logo of the British 7th Armored Division on the Sergeant's uniform, he immediately tells Davis that the man he's looking for is very likely to be his identical-looking grandfather.
• Among the deities they immediately get along with are fellow North Africa veterans Lt. Mike Powell and Lt. Karl Fairburne. The latter especially so, due to his close working relationship with members of the British 8th Army, which the 7th Armored Division was part of.
  • Pretty soon, the two British soldiers begin exchanging stories and intel with the former SOE agent. Welsh in particular was astonished that the Germans were able to build a massive behemoth like the P.1000 Ratte. Davis himself was impressed at the ease of which Fairburne destroyed several of The Dreaded Tiger I Heavy tanks with nothing but a Sniper Rifle.
• Davis comes to oppose the actions of The Basterds, thanks mainly to having been ordered never to harm unarmed German Prisoners-Of-War during the Normandy campaign.
• Welsh, meanwhile, befriends Darjeeling, due to her extensive knowledge of British tanks like Welsh's own Crusader. In fact, she helps him repair his damaged tank, which had been hit several times by fire from German tanks during the advance into Libya. In exchange, Welsh assists her in her own tank battles against members of the Anglerfish Team.
  • Initially, Welsh mistakes the Anglerfish Team's Panzer IV as well as Maho Nishizumi's Tiger I as hostiles, and almost ends up hitting them with his Crusader's main gun. Thankfully, Darjeeling stops him when she points out that the markings on their tanks are clearly not the Balkenkreuz seen on actual Panzers.
  • It's through Darjeeling that Welsh meets Yukari Akiyama. Unsurprisingly, she immediately begins telling Welsh about her extensive knowledge of his Crusader tank, which impresses the British tank commander a lot.
• Both Davis and Welsh despise Captain Martin Walker and his infamous actions in Dubai, to the point that they refuse to talk to him altogether. It helps that, in contrast to Walker's Deconstructor Fleet story, Davis and Welsh come from a more straightforward Battle Epic.
• Upon learning about a Sherman tank being in the Pantheon's Treasures House, both Davish and Welsh become interested in checking it out, the former having been supported by them since the North African campaign, while the latter hopes to upgrade from the Crusader to something with a little more firepower.
• The two British soldiers find out the hard way that the Nazis aren't the only thing lurking in the Pantheon's deserts, when they come across the Desert Seltas and Desert Seltas Queen, which come close to killing both men had it not been for Amuro Ray and Shiro Amada opening fire on the monsters and saving their lives.
  • Both Davis and Welsh, unsurprisingly, are both speechless upon seeing the two EFF pilot's Gundams, which dwarf Welsh's own Crusader. Nonetheless, both are grateful to the two Mobile Suit pilots, and they begin forming a friendship over their shared experiences in desert combat.
• Davis gets along well with Royal Navy shipgirl Warspite, thanks in no part to the British Sergeant having been assisted by the Royal Navy at one point late in the Battle of El-Alamein. He personally asks her if she can aid them again in the event that they run into trouble in the midst of combat, to which she agrees.
• Both men would rather not have Lance Corporal Jack Jones join them in their patrols, mainly due to his age as well as the risk of him becoming The Load. Not to mention that he's mainly trained as a Home Guard, while both of them are mainly specializing in patrolling the vast Sahara Desert.

Captain Price: "Bloody fine work men. The 7th Armored's made it out of this mess thanks to our efforts on this flank. That said, our job here is done. So let's get the hell out of here."

Edited by Rmpdc on Jun 28th 2020 at 10:12:09 PM

"We are gonna sit here and take it! You hear me!? We're gonna take it!"

Alrighty, it's been a month since the release of Seven Sirens on Consoles/PC, and around three months since the Apple Arcade Full Release. The main meat of this Shantae update is mainly to bring it to Seven Sirens. There's no need to really update the title, as she is still the quintessential belly dancer of the Pantheon, though the reason why I wanted to wait until now is because the information in my opinion is too much for a silent update unlike either Rottytops' or Risky's profiles.

Shantae (Opinion Mode: or allowed)

Shantae, Goddess of Belly Dancers (Half-Genie Hero, Guardian Genie of Scuttle Town)

• Intermediate Goddess normally, Lesser Goddess as a human, Borderline Greater Goddess powered up by Light Magic, with other Half-Genie magic via Fusion Stones or as Nega Shantae
• /: 0/0
• Symbol: Her lamp
• Theme Song: "Dance Through The Danger", "The Last Battle" in her Nega Form
• Alignment: Neutral Good (Chaotic Evil in her Nega Form)
• Portfolio: Mascot of Way Forward, Half-human, half-genie hybrid, long, purple hair that she uses as a whip, good genie, uses belly dancing for transforming into animals, teleporting, and dancing for others, can use pike balls, fire balls, and thunderclouds, Happily Adopted, cute half-monster girl, Ms. Fanservice, self-doubting hero, is constantly fired and rehired by the town's incompetent mayor, has a dark and dangerous nega form, goes to the beach for a nice tan, practiced ninjitsu, borrowed Patty's officer uniform to play cops and robbers, arranged a sleepover with her friends and archenemy
• Domain: Dances, Transformation, Hair, Magic
• Followers: Rouge
• Potential Heralds: Harmony and the other Half-Genies
• Allies: Rottytops, Shovel Knight, Genie, Ariel, Aladdin (Both of them), Jasmine, The Monster Girls, Millia Rage, Yuna, Sun Wukong, Toejam and Earl, Filia, Velvet Crowe, Bayonetta (sort of)
  • Partner: Medicham
• Enemies: Risky Boots, Gangplank, Jafar, Galeem and Dharkon, The Lich (Adventure Time)
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Miss Fortune, Carmelita Fox (one-sided on Carmelita's end)
• Odd Friendship: Morgiana
• When she ascended into the Pantheon, she was 'ret-2-go' after foiling Risky Boots' plan, defeating her evil self after losing her genie powers and even defeating the Pirate Master after reacquiring her genie powers which took the strength of all genies to seal him away. After a reboot, she stopped Risky from perverting the Genie World with dark magic by destroying the Dynamo.
  • However, there are two separate occasions that brought out the evil side of her. Dubbed Nega Shantae, this evil version of the Half-Genie has all the powers she normally has, but instead of using them for good, she uses them to go out and try to kill Shantae and her friends. The first time had Risky using the Genie Lamp to suck out Shantae's magical half, bending it and forming it into a corrupted version of the weakened Human Shantae. The second involved Risky's Dynamo zapping Shantae, polarizing her light magic into dark magic, transforming her into the evil Half-Genie. With that in mind, she keeps away from any being whose capable of manipulating her magic, especially if they're evil.
  • After Shantae's most recent adventure, she returned with a couple of new friends and knowledge of new instant transformations. The Half-Genies petitioned to be Shantae's heralds, reasoning first and foremost that they should be together to make the world better when the Genies of their world eventually return. With a Fusion Stone, Shantae's native abilities augment with their component Half-Genies, revealing invisible objects and entities with Plink's Seer abilities, healing with Vera's Refresh magic, electrifying the area with Zapple's Shock, and trembling the earth with Harmony's Quake.
• During most of the day, she spends a lot of time in the House of Personal Appearance, trying out different kinds of shampoo and hair cream as well as new clothes.
  • On occasion, she'll be out on the Pantheon grounds wearing three different outfits. With the Bikini costume, she'll be running around, trying to find a beach to tan while collecting sunscreen, attacking with her hair, beach balls, and occasionally floating within a self-made bubble. With the Ninja costume, she's able to teleport instantly and utilizes a wakizashi as her weapon of choice, while also being able to jump and stick to walls. Finally, Patrica Wagon's Police Uniform allows her the usage of Patrica's pistol and the Switch Helmet, which can push and pull blocks in and out of spaces. While she attempts to be Lawful Good wearing this, she can be pretty incompetent, collecting her friends as inmates and arresting baddies for relatively trivial matter.
  • She can very rarely during the day (or if she's sleepwalking during the night) be wearing her Jammies. With this, she tries to gather her friends for a sleepover party, utilizing an army of sheep and a pillow to attack, as well as going to sleep to float around at will for an extended period of time.
• When she heard that Rottytops ascended into the Pantheon, she wandered around, looking for the mischievous zombie girl. After a crash to the ground courtesy of Rotty practically glomping her, they relished their reunion, especially seeing that she brought Sky and Bolo as her heralds. At least now, it'd be easier to keep track of her now that they're in the same place, as well as put pressure on Risky Boots.
• She became friends with Jasmine and the two like to talk about their choice of clothing in which Shantae is intrigued that she isn't a belly dancer and would like teach her how to dance.
  • However, she didn't understand Jasmine's friend's, Ariel, choice of clothing, because she tried wearing various amounts of sea creature when she lost her clothes while swimming and it wasn't a good experience.
• Surprisingly to everyone, despite what she wears on a daily basis, she is very modest, though mainly at the expense of herself or her outfit.
• Her magical dances allows her to transform into animals, can heal herself, and even destroying her enemies with Obliterate. So far, she can transform into a monkey, elephant, harpy, spider, mermaid, Tinkerbats, and expects a lot more to come.
• When she is either bored or out of gems, she would perform a stage in front of the audience who went to see her. Sometimes if they are lucky, they could see her wearing this Scuttle Town Dancer Outfit or this Tree Town Dancer Outfit.
• As a technical monster girl, she meet the Monster Girls with mixed results.
  • Although she got over it, she was very scared of meeting Miia and Rachnera since she encountered not very friendly Naga and spiders.
  • While she enjoys her company with Papi, she does not like having her hair being pulled and has to remind her of it. Fortunately, she could transform into a harpy, so she could fly with Papi without any problems.
  • Other than that, she is rather friendly to Suu, Cerea, and Meron without any sort of problems.
• When she heard that there was the Genie in the Pantheon, she was ecstatic to meet him, in which she wants to learn more about other kind of genies and to hear his witty humor.
  • As a result, she became fast friends with Aladdin (both of them).
• Surprisingly, she was able to get along with Morgiana. Either one reason or another.
  • She tried to perform for Riven, but much to her dismay, it failed to raise her spirit.
• She hates Gangplank, not just because he's a pirate but also whenever he fires his cannons, one of them always hit her house. She had to get it fixed multiple times.
  • With that said, she is willing to be tolerable to Miss Fortune. Maybe because she actually tried being one during one of her adventures.
• Upon finding other gods that have the power to control their hair, she immediately befriended Millia Rage and Filia.
  • Speaking of Filia, they first met at some ancient ruins, with the half-genie offering to help her look for the Skull Heart after she and Filia introduced themselves, but Samson wasn't as eager and tried to force her to leave. Naturally, it resulted in a showdown, which Shantae came out on top of in just a single minute. Of course, part of the ruins began to crumble as a result of their bout and Samson apologized for his behavior after they were rescued, but Shantae casually blew it off.
• As a result of the Refresh magic's abilities against undead entities, The Lich took it to mark her up in particular in terms of threats to eliminate.
• She is currently pondering over whether to donate her lamp into the Treasures of the Gods or not, though unfortunately for her, the Goose loves to steal it due to its shiny exterior.
• Carmelita Fox has little respect towards Shantae due to the time where Bentley forced her to belly dance during a heist in Ancient Arabia, though working with a wanted criminal (Risky Boots) didn't help matters to begin with.
  • Their relationship is only slightly better if Shantae's wearing Patrica Wagon's police uniform. Even then, Carmelita would simply go do her own thing and not bother with her.
• She tried to audition for the Smash Bros. Tournament through the Ballot. She had some support and backing from her followers, including her creators and even a couple high profile fans. However, much to her disappointment, the winner was Bayonetta. Despite this, Shantae gets along well with the Umbra Witch for their shared use of their dancing and hair for defeating enemies and/or transforming, even if she admittedly does feel a bit jealous over her admission in the Tournament.
  • Shantae was able to get into Smash after all! ...As a spirit, that is. She was one of countless victims to Galeem's light beams, being forced into a Zero Suit Samus clone body in an attempt to delay the Fighter's approach to Rathalos' cove. After recovering her body in the House of Life and Death, she took it to oppose both the Lord of Light and Embodiment of Chaos and Darkness. Dharkon himself is not a big fan of the Half-Genie Hero, due to her inherent light magic, making her a slightly higher priority target to the chaotic abomination, though not without pondering how a Nega Shantae could be useful for his purposes.
• As of late, Shantae's been nervous to approach Samus due to a certain event where Galeem created a Zero Suit Samus body for the captive spirit of the half-genie to possess in an attempt to stop the fighters. For the most part, Samus doesn't mind Shantae, since she was one of countless victims of a universe-ending attack by the Lord of Light that reduced almost everyone into spirits, though she could do without all the art and jokes born from this incident.

An old fart that needs to get back to writing profiles

"...and you will be their savior, your strength will be their shield and your will... their sword. You remain... unbroken... for your fight... is eternal."

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Jun 28th 2020 at 7:17:39 AM

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!

@Shantae If it's just an update then i don't see a point of bringing the profile over here. Just update to what the story of her games is up to, add one or two extra interactions if you feel like it and call it a day.

Uni cat

Other dancers she could interact with are Azura, Primrose Azelhart of the Eight Travelers, Yuna, and Mumble.

Now that the Doom Slayer has been reworked, I should note that Zero (Drakengard 3) also has One-Man Army. since we don't allow deities to share tropes unless there are clear variations, I believe she should be reworked with Blood Is the New Black. She is often portrayed with blood splattered on her white dress, as befitting her violent nature and action prowess. It's also a gameplay mechanic in which by being covered in enough blood she can unleash "Intoner Mode", which gives her a boost in power and speed. I did say this before but it got ignored.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Jun 28th 2020 at 7:22:47 AM

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

@faso Okay, I thought to still bring it on here since what I suggest may be a bit more major what I suggest (primarily the Herald suggestion) than what would be justifiable under a shadow edit.

@Excessive That should be something I'll work on overtime. I'll pull my suggestions up later on, though I believe the profile is sufficient enough for this point.

Edited by SuperMafia on Jun 28th 2020 at 8:29:34 AM

An old fart that needs to get back to writing profiles

Got more suggestions

Ultraman King, God of Final Resorts (Ultraman King only arrives when everything seems hopeless, which is saying a lot since he is a Hermit Guru. He can literally recreate the universe if he wanted to if everything was backing in him.)

Orange, Fruit God of Laughing at Your Own Jokes (every time Orange makes a ”joke”, he makes an annoying laugh that makes me want to squeeze him into orange juice. This is a throwback to early internet content and... Yeah. Early internet wasn't really good.

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Jun 28th 2020 at 7:30:54 AM

Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.

In general: Is Fake Memories available so I can bring back Tsukishima with some more meat in his profile, or is someone working on something for that trope?

For Zero, is the profile itself in need of a rework or is it just a matter of changing her trope and moving her over to a new house?

I don't know about Ultraman King. There's plenty of characters who could fit the Godzilla Threshold.

But that annoying piece of #$%@ citrus fruit with the nightmare face will have to do. for the orange.

Edited by Bazzardreturns on Jun 28th 2020 at 7:35:03 AM

Time to explore the world!

I feel like she could use a rework, as the info in her profile feels a tad bit too short. Still, I have a few profiles to work on, but I'll put her in my sandbox and jot down my ideas for the rework.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

Oh god, we are bringing up all the scrappies aren't we. I'm mildly curious about that stupid orange.

@Someone You can go ahead and work on that bleach dude.

Btw, i think yeah, Zero was supposed to get another trope. Also whatever happened to the intoners...

Uni cat

One day, I'll bring Fred Figglehorn too as revenge for the downvotes I get

Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.

Oh good lord, not the Annoying Orange. I watched that thing when I was a pre-teen back in 2009, I dunno how I managed to like him but I did. for the cringe element alone. I bet even the YTP gang hate his guts.

An old fart that needs to get back to writing profiles

M1gami: Ultraman King could work for Physical God, since his whole thing is that he’s absurdly powerful even by Ultra standards and is capable of universe-level feats.

You are welcome.

Edited by GeneralGigan817 on Jun 28th 2020 at 10:47:30 AM

Thanks for the idea change Gigan

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Menace: Alright. Let's see if I can help with that by any chance, whenever you're ready. Also, I totally second that motion in your sandbox to move Augus over to Teachers.

I'm personally baffled as to the choices most tropers pick for new deities, without even considering if the source material is of notable aspects. *sigh*

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!

Eh, We'll survive. ;)

But also, wouldn't Physical God also work for other deities too? Like there's probably others that could work.

Edited by Bazzardreturns on Jun 28th 2020 at 7:46:24 AM

Time to explore the world!

Well technically EVERYONE’S a Physical God in the Pantheon.

@Super Mafia: Wasn't Miss Fortune dropped? Also, how about an interaction with BOB?

@Hamana: We have Bubsy Bobcat in the pantheon fam. Are you really that surprised by our lack of standards?

@Viracocha... whatever: Kor seems like a good suggestion to me.

This time, I'm really gonna do it.

That's not what he meant. He meant that since Physical God is such a generic trope, there are probably other unascended characters who could also qualify for it.

It's been long established that a character does not need to qualify for their trope in comparison to the Pantheon, i.e. Wally West doesn't need to be the fastest being in the Pantheon to qualify for Fastest Thing Alive, so whether he is or not is irrelevant. They must, obviously, qualify for their trope while in their universe of origin.

Edited by yugi195 on Jun 28th 2020 at 9:59:46 AM

In another few hours, the sun will rise.