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The Hindsight tropes, Hilarious in Hindsight, Harsher in Hindsight, and Heartwarming in Hindsight, are among the most misused Audience Reaction tropes on this site. Many people don't understand that the tropes require more than just "This happened, so that happened", and end up adding examples which either lack connection or the substance that makes them funny/serious/not-so-funny/heartwarming. Some of them may be suited better for other tropes (ex: Life Imitates Art), while some may not belong on TV Tropes at all (such as ones involving politicians, due to Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment).

Please report any Hindsight example that you feel are questionable, and we'll analyze them to see if they are actually examples or not.

Remember that the Hindsight tropes are Audience Reactions. That means if an example under review discusses significant fan response pointing out the hindsight, the example can't be cut solely for being too tenuous for this thread.

    Common NOT in Hindsight examples 
  • Creator's character/portrayal dies in work and then creator dies in real life, unless their fictional death is closely similar to their real one (such as Billy Bob Joe portraying a character who dies from pancreatic cancer, then Billy Bob dies from pancreatic cancer himself)
  • Mundane word related to something terrible (such as "corona" or "Epstein") unless there's more to the connection (such as someone named "Corona" having the flu)
  • Creator appears in work then becomes more controversial later on.
  • A common event (such as a typical natural disaster) happens in work, then happens in real life (unless they are closely similar, such as the event happening to the same area in both reality and fiction around the same time) For once, not everything related to disease has to do with COVID-19, not everything related to racism and Police Brutality has to do with George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, and not everything related to sexual abuse has to do with #MeToo.
  • A common/generic concept was used in this work and then later reused in that work (too loose for a connection, unless the concept is so unique it's identified with the work)
  • Two actors appear together then do so in another work
  • Hindsight examples involving recent events, due to them often being shoehorns. Specifically:
    • COVID-19 examples, before 75% of the population has returned to normal
    • George Floyd/2020 Black Lives Matter examples, before protests have declined
  • Examples which fall guilty of Older Than They Think, such as "Make X Great Again" slogans. Aside from violating the ROCEJ, this slogan has been in use since the 1940s.
  • Characters using slurs which are treated as annoying at worst in the work, but is now harsher due to how severe the slur is made now. Discrimination has always existed with that slur. (May qualify for Values Dissonance if work is at least 20 years old.)

Note: As of January 2022, "Funny Aneurysm" Moment is no longer separate from Harsher in Hindsight.
  • The former redirects to the latter and all wicks to the former (with the exception of ones on archive pages and the YMMV Redirects index) must either be moved to the latter (if they're valid) or removed (if they're invalid).
  • The subpages for the former are still accessible from this page. After a subpage for "Funny Aneurysm" Moment has been completely cleaned up, turn it into a redirect to the Harsher in Hindsight subpage for the same medium to preserve inbounds.

Edited by Tabs on Jun 21st 2023 at 11:51:25 AM

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#1476: Sep 19th 2020 at 10:09:49 AM

This is on Wow! Wow! Wubbzy! under Hilarious in Hindsight:

  • The voice actors of Wubbzy and Daizy, Grey De Lisle and Tara Strong respectively, are also in The Fairly OddParents!, being the voices of Vicky and Timmy.

Vilui Since: May, 2009
#1477: Sep 19th 2020 at 10:11:11 AM

Easy cut. With no information about any of those characters, I have no idea what's supposed to be funny about it.

falcontalons from Earth-2 Since: Apr, 2019
#1478: Sep 19th 2020 at 10:11:34 AM

Yeah, cut; that's just "two voice actors from this show appeared on a different show."

FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#1479: Sep 19th 2020 at 10:37:10 AM

[up][up][up] That one is one of the seven types of "insta-cuts" that you can find in the "Common NOT in Hindsight examples" folder above.

I'd like to apologize for all this.
ccorb from A very hot place Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
#1480: Sep 19th 2020 at 10:59:33 AM

Also there's a Names The Same hindsight shoehorn on that same YMMV page.

Rock'n'roll never dies!
DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
#1481: Sep 19th 2020 at 12:44:49 PM

Two comments on the Web Original folder, agree with the rest of it:

  • Yahtzee did a completely fake joke review of Duke Nukem Forever a while after said game was cancelled. Fast forward a few months, and the review has been voted the #1 fan-favorite. A few days afterward, DNF was announced to be Un-Cancelled at PAX 2010, and would come out to overwhelmingly negative reviews (with it really saying something when Yahtzee actually tried to list some positives of the real life game when he actually reviewed it). Lots of complaining that should be cut. The fact that he posted a fake review and then the game was released for real is kind of Hilarious in Hindsight, though, but then again, maybe it's still too much of a stretch.
  • In the wake of the Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting, the "Slipping" scene in Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog is pretty uncomfortable to watch. Dr. Horrible shoots a person in a town hall assembly, not a movie theatre. Shoehorn.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#1482: Sep 19th 2020 at 2:04:55 PM

Found these on The Boondocks under "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:

  • The plot of "Mr. Medicinal" is kicked off by Granddad suffering from various health problems, including a near-fatal stroke caused by his stressful life. In 2019, John Witherspoon, his voice actor, died of a heart attack at age 77, which also unfortunately happened well before the scheduled 2020 premiere of The Boondocks reboot series where he was set to reprise his role.

  • Looking back on "The Fried Chicken Flu" episode from 2010, which was a satire based on the then-recent swine flu pandemic, it's hard not to draw some parallels between that episode's plot and all the news about the COVID-19 Pandemic of 2020; which has rapidly spread to the point where countless places around the world have been enforcing lockdowns, quarantines, and delays at worst and mask-wearing and social distancing at best.

  • In "Return of the King", an elderly Martin Luther King Jr. inspires a political reawakening among the African American community, which eventually results in a large crowd of protesters angrily surrounding the gates of the White House. The George Floyd protests of 2020 saw nationwide protests against police brutality and racial injustice, including a demonstration in which protesters surrounded the White House.

valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1483: Sep 19th 2020 at 2:14:36 PM

[up] Last two points are definite shoehorns, but I don't know enough about the work to know if Granddad had any heart issues.

ccorb from A very hot place Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
#1484: Sep 19th 2020 at 4:55:03 PM

There's this on Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!:

That's an instacut, right?

Rock'n'roll never dies!
antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#1485: Sep 19th 2020 at 4:55:47 PM

Total coincedence. Cut.

[up][up][up] And I agree, the chicken episode has absolutely nothing to do with COVID. Outbreaks happen all the time.

Edited by antenna_ears on Sep 19th 2020 at 4:56:48 AM

WoodKnapp94 Since: May, 2020
#1486: Sep 20th 2020 at 7:46:39 AM

YMMV.Little Bill

Harsher in Hindsight: One episode has Little Bill afraid of getting his picture taken with Captain Brainstorm due to being "bigger". This becomes difficult to watch once you learn the sexual assault convictions Bill Cosby, the voice of said superhero, has dealt with in the past years.

Last time I checked, Cosby didn't target children.

ccorb from A very hot place Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#1488: Sep 20th 2020 at 8:36:50 AM

This was recently added to YMMV.The Simpsons S 14 E 14 Mr Spritz Goes To Washington:

  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment / Shallow Parody: The opening had a gag where The Three Stooges were comedians in old age (including Curly falling over and not getting up, and Larry joking that paralysis from a stroke made him immune to Moe's slaps). First of all, Curly never got old enough to ever reprise his Stooge role in old age, being replaced three times after 1947 when he suffering a career-ending stroke (and he died in 1952, at the age of 48). Second, it becomes painfully unfunny when you realize that Larry did suffer a stroke — a career-ending one — while filming Kook's Tour in 1970. (Though this was not well-known until years after the episode aired.) It sounded like all the writers did was "The Three Stooges are old people doing their schtick" for a cheap laugh.

WoodKnapp94 Since: May, 2020
#1489: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:08:04 AM

That's not really hindsight, and it's not obvious enough to be a Shallow Parody either.

Coolnut Since: Jan, 2001
#1490: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:18:05 AM

[up][up] That was me. Cutting them now.

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#1491: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:33:42 AM

Can I get more input for the ERB entry?

Since there's a lot of stuffs, I want to see a few more opinions before making the changes. Especially since, after the cull, the page might need to be cut

    Hilarious In Hindsight for ERB 

General

Adolf Hitler vs. Darth Vader

  • Vader tells Hitler (played by Lloyd) that he has a Napoleon dick. Lloyd later plays the French man himself in a later video.
    • In the same video, Vader moonwalks. He was played by NicePeter, as was the adult Michael Jackson in season two.
  • In the rematch, Vader comments that he's "on the leader of your limp-dicked Luftwaffe" before making a reference to Lucas's other famous production, Indiana Jones. Then another Lucas production about pilots taking down the Luftwaffe came out.
  • In the third installment, Hitler tells Vader "I beat you twice you sellout and now you bow down to Mickey Mouse.". Now, Maker Studios, the company that produces Epic Rap Battles of History, does as well.
    • Even funnier now that ERB is independent of Maker.
  • DEATH BATTLE! has made a fight of Darth Vader facing another European dictator Dr. Doom. From the looks of it, Adolf will be very happy with Doom by now.
  • This battle has EpicLLOYD make fun of a fictional villain's "burnt-ass face". The same happened 70 battles later in "Freddy Kruger vs Wolverine", although this time Lloyd played a fictional hero, rather than a real-life villain.

Sarah Palin vs. Lady Gaga

  • Lady Gaga makes a reference to the Jackson 5. 15 episodes later, The King of Pop himself (with a short appearance by his sibs) takes a shot at the mic. Both Gaga and Adult!MJ are played by Nice Peter to boot.

Kim Jong-Il vs. The Mega Powers - Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage

  • Kim Jong-Il opens by saying he's got a "license to ill", one of the more well-known aspects of James Bond. Season 5 has James Bond appear... 58 episodes after this line.

Justin Bieber vs. Ludwig van Beethoven

  • Bieber says he's the next Michael Jackson. MJ himself appears later.

Albert Einstein vs. Stephen Hawking

  • The line "I'm the Snoop Dogg of science". Snoop Dogg appears as Moses in a later episode.

Genghis Khan vs. The Easter Bunny

  • Genghis Khan tells the Easter Bunny that he's about to feel Wrath of Khan before Captain Kirk appeared in a rap.

Benjamin Franklin vs. Billy Mays

  • The line "Call me Arthur Miller, son..." becomes funnier considering the wife of Arthur Miller, Marilyn Monroe, would appear as a rapping contestant later on.
  • "Your Boy George chopped down trees" said by Vince Offer (played by Peter), before George Washington (also played by Peter) appears in a battle.

Gandalf vs Dumbledore

Nice Peter vs. Epic Lloyd

  • Kassem G is named in Cleopatra vs. Marilyn Monroe (he also appears there) and appears as one of the soldiers in the third Hitler vs. Vader.
  • Note the winged wolf that Kassem G appears with. What's the only winged wolf from a TV show at the time? Silverbolt in Beast Wars Transformers. It took them four movies, but the man himself finally cameoed in one.
  • The Stinger for Season 2 has a quote from Vladimir Putin appears, saying that he will kill Nice Peter if Season 2 does not have a Russian character. The Season 2 finale has five Russian characters, one of which is Putin (played by, you guessed it, Nice Peter).
  • The second installment has Epic Lloyd noting that Nice Peter could be interpreted as a euphemism for the male genitalia. A year later, Peter reveals that he is expecting a baby.

Wright Bros. vs. Mario Bros.

Michael Jackson vs. Elvis Presley

  • Elvis to MJ: "you like to grab your own wanger". In the Season 2 finale, Mikhail Gorbachev does just that ("I got the balls to let Baryshnikov dance, playa!"). Both are played by Lloyd.

Cleopatra vs Marilyn Monroe

  • The line "overthrows pharaohs who oppose me like Moses". Moses himself later appears in Moses vs. Santa Claus.
  • Marilyn mentions how Cleopatra once "[tossed] Caesar's salad". Julius himself would later appear in Shaka Zulu vs. Julius Caesar, where Shaka Zulu hurls a Cleopatra-centered insult at him.

Bill Gates vs. Steve Jobs

  • One of the lines from Bill Gates is, "I'm a God! Own X Box!" Along comes Xbox One...
  • From the same battle, HAL 9000's line "Hasta la vista, like the Terminator told ya." The Terminator himself appeared later in Terminator vs RoboCop, with a cameo by Arnie himself, no less, and he does indeed tell his opponent "Hasta la vista".

Frank Sinatra vs. Freddie Mercury

  • Freddie claims Frank was "in the pocket of The Mafia". Lloyd, who played Frank, later portrayed the best known face of the Mafia, Al Capone. So much for plausible deniability.

Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney

  • The two's face-off can bring some chuckles to this day, especially since in the 2016 election they would find themselves on the same side against Donald Trump.

Doc Emmett Brown vs. The Doctor

Batman vs. Sherlock Holmes

Babe Ruth vs. Lance Armstrong

  • In the behind the scenes, Peter says Lance Armstrong (who he plays) is like Rick Grimes from The Walking Dead. Peter later raps as Rick in Rick Grimes vs Walter White.

Grigori Rasputin vs. Josef Stalin

Blackbeard vs Al Capone

  • Blackbeard refers to himself as "the high seas Caesar". Not only did Caesar himself appear in a later battle, he was given a similar voice to Blackbeard!

Bob Ross vs. Pablo Picasso

  • Pablo called himself "the greatest, the modern art Muhammad Ali". What's the next rap battle? Michael Jordan vs Muhammad Ali.
  • In his first verse, Picasso mocks Bob by telling him that even his dog, Lump, can make better paintings than him, and in the second verse, he mocks Bob's name (which is rather unimpressive compared to Picasso's Overly Long Name). The BTS video reveals that the dog who plays Lump is actually named Bob.

Donald Trump vs. Ebenezer Scrooge

Goku vs. Superman

  • Superman's line about "Just one punch / and over nine thousand screams" becomes more hilarious after One-Punch Man gains popularity.
  • Goku's line about "You got your ass beat / by a bat with no power" also becomes more hilarious after Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice came out, and just like in the comic it's based on, Superman did get his ass beat by Batman.
  • Goku's line "Defeat me with heat beams, you're crazy" is this to those who have seen the second matchup between these two characters by DEATH BATTLE!, in which Superman deals the finishing blow by focussing his heat-vision through Goku's eyes to incinerate his brain.

Stephen King vs. Edgar Allan Poe

  • In his first verse, Edgar calls Stephen King a "joker". This line becomes doubly hilarious in season 6, where one of King's characters, Pennywise, gets to battle The Joker. Not only that, The Joker's raps actually roasts Stephen King almost as much as Pennywise himself.

Isaac Newton vs. Bill Nye

Ghostbusters vs. Mythbusters

  • The BTS for the season 3 finale has Peter appearing 'in a box' ie. an inset as he was out of town at the time. The BTS for the start of season 4 has Peter playing around in a box, the one the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man costume came in!
  • It's also mentioned that they got a mascot suit actor to be in the Stay Puft suit, which is funny now that there's a movie with a mascot and a tubby white guy as heroes.
  • One insult towards the Ghostbusters is "come harder than Ray [Stantz] when that ghost popped his cherry". Having your cherry popped is a term for losing your virginity, but is typically applied only to females, making it a dig at Stantz's masculinity. Then Ghostbusters (2016) actually turned the titular group into girls, and suddenly the line is more applicable.
  • Another one concerning the new movie - the Mythbusters' first verse involves Peter and Lloyd doing a particularly complicated hand-slap-dance that took a while to practice, while in the new movie, Abby and Holtzmann have an even more complicated Secret Handshake that they pull off swimmingly.

Jack the Ripper vs Hannibal Lecter

  • Jack the Ripper claims that Hannibal is forgotten and that nowadays people watch Dexter. Dexter's series finale ended in September 2013 while Hannibal premiered in May 2013. At the time this rap battle premiered, Hannibal had garnered enough popularity to warrant a third season on NBC. However, before the fourth season of ERB was over, NBC had cancelled Hannibal. Maybe Jack the Ripper was right after all...

Lewis And Clark vs Bill & Ted

  • Ted says he's heard better insults from Socrates' anus. Socrates did appear two battles later in "Eastern Philosophers vs Western Philosophers", which is foreshadowed by Lloyd appearing dressed as Socrates in this video.
  • Lewis & Clark are played by Rhett & Link, who previously rapped alongside Smosh in "Artists vs Turtles". In the Bill & Ted films, Bill was played by Alex Winter, who would later work with Smosh himself by directing Smosh: The Movie. Kinda makes you wonder just whose side Rhett & Link are on.
  • Rufus makes a brief appearance during Bill and Ted's verse. His actor George Carlin himself appeared in Season 6, and is even mockingly called Rufus.

Terminator vs Robocop

  • Unsatisfied that we never see the fight that happens after the rap battle? Well, now you can recreate that fight in Mortal Kombat 11!

Eastern Philosophers vs Western Philosophers

Stan Lee vs. Jim Henson

  • Henson's line "the Four will always be Fantastic" was proven wrong the very same week of the battle's upload, as the Fantastic Four reboot opened a few days later and performed terribly with critics and audiences, not to mention Marvel cancelling their comic the same year this battle came out!
  • Walt's line "In fact I own this whole series!" made sense at the time because Maker Studios, which ERB worked with at the time to make their videos, was bought out by Disney in 2014. However, the trailer for season 6 includes "100% Independent", indicating that ERB will no longer be tied to Maker Studios and therefore Disney. "I own this whole series!"? Not anymore you don't.
    • Even funnier, ERB seemed to realize this. Hence why the season 6 trailer contains Stock Footage for Disney's "whole series" line.

Deadpool vs. Boba Fett

J.R.R. Tolkien vs George R.R. Martin

  • One of George R.R. Martin's first disses against Tolkien was complaining about how all of "[Tolkien's] bad guys and guys die and [his] good guys survive," is amusing when, in the wake of the ending of Game of Thrones, almost all of the main good guys live and all but two villains die.

Gordon Ramsay vs Julia Child

  • Ramsay compares Child to both Shrek and Big Bird. When Big Bird appeared in the "Flash in the Pan Hip Hop Conflicts" subseries, he also compared his opponent to Shrek!!!

James Bond vs Austin Powers

  • Just the fact that Sean Connery!Bond is an unapologetic "rug-wearing misogynist", considering that Lloyd would later play Donald Trump.

Bruce Banner vs Bruce Jenner

  • Banner compares Jenner to "the Flash, especially in the 100m ditch-your-wife dash". As of season 3 of The Flash (2014), Barry Allen has basically run himself back into the friendzone, twice.
  • Jenner points out that Banner "can't go back to protect your mom from your dad". While Banner is clearly based on the Mark Ruffalo MCU incarnation and this line was more of a reference to the backstory of Eric Bana's Hulk, it's funny now that MCU Banner is the one that helped develop time travel!

Donald Trump vs Hilary Clinton

Wonder Woman vs Stevie Wonder

Wayne Gretzky vs Tony Hawk

Theodore Roosevelt vs Winston Churchill

  • Winston calling Teddy an "overgrown Boy Scout", considering that Lloyd once played THE Big Blue Boy Scout.
  • In this battle, EpicLLOYD plays Theodore Roosevelt. Only six battles later, he would play the guy who played Roosevelt in Night at the Museum.

Elon Musk vs Mark Zuckerberg

  • Three and a half months after a rap battle with Elon Musk being released, Elon Musk releases his own rap song, "RIP Harambe".

Guy Fawkes vs Che Guevara

  • This rather infamous fan-made epic rap battle featured Guy Fawkes years before he would be featured in an official one.

Ronald McDonald vs The Burger King

  • Burger King dissing Ronald with: "You look like you just ate somebody's brother in a storm drain", referencing It. 5 months later, Pennywise himself would end up in his own rap battle against The Joker. Even more ironic is how Lloyd, who played The Burger King and thus made that insult, would play that very clown in said battle.

The Joker vs Pennywise

Thanos vs J Robert Oppenheimer

  • The audio for the battle was officially released on Youtube, a few days before the video came out, which means we got to hear Oppenheimer's "it must leave you enraged when you compare our talents" line before comparing the underwhelming Thanos costume to the nearly-universally praised Oppenheimer.

@migthymewtron (#1454): Good choices, although there's some selections I disagree with. The Joker and Harlequin one doesn't seem to fit (it's a stretch to apply Pennywise's accusation of Joker's Bastard Boyfriend tendency towards Harley to their movies' Box Office records). For your "on the fence" options, the ones I'll probably chuck is the One-Punch Man reference, and the Ghostbuster one.

Edited by Adept on Sep 21st 2020 at 12:47:53 AM

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#1492: Sep 20th 2020 at 10:16:46 AM

Good point. I found the double meaning of the Joker/Harley one amusing, but it's a bit of a stretch, both because those movies are a few months apart and weren't exactly competing (though Joker's run did run into BOP's opening in a few theaters, due to the Oscar buzz) and because it's meant to be an insult in context.

Many of the ones I'm on the fence about I'm leaning towards cutting, but I'm willing to keep them for now as we cut basically everything else, since the other ones are more egregiously shoehorned.

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 20th 2020 at 1:17:09 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#1493: Sep 20th 2020 at 10:30:15 AM

Found this on SpongeBob SquarePants S2 E13 "Shanghaied" / "Gary Takes a Bath":

  • Harsher in Hindsight: The scene where Spongebob has a bomb strapped to his chest and it goes off, blowing him into pieces. The episode first aired in July 2003. Strangely, despite "Just One Bite"'s scene involving gasoline being dumped on Squidward having been edited out since around 2002, Nick has never touched this episode (perhaps because of the episode's uneven length due to being paired with the longer-than-usual "Shanghaied").

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#1494: Sep 20th 2020 at 10:32:41 AM

No context on what event made it harsher, and pretty natter-y near the end.

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 20th 2020 at 1:33:01 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Coolnut Since: Jan, 2001
#1495: Sep 20th 2020 at 10:42:21 AM

Briefly looking through mightymewtron (post 1454)'s "on the fence" list:

"The two's face-off can bring some chuckles to this day, especially since in the 2016 election they would find themselves on the same side against Donald Trump." Politicians in opposing parties finding themselves on the same side on something are still a dime a dozen in America. And as noted, it might be ROCEJ, so I think it can be cut.

The "Confucius Rap Song" and the "Trump brings the ghost of Christmas Yet to Come" examples are dead links, BTW.

Edited by Coolnut on Sep 20th 2020 at 1:43:53 PM

rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#1496: Sep 20th 2020 at 12:03:06 PM

Found this on YMMV.Chuggaaconroy under Harsher in Hindsight. I don't think Nintendo not changing a potentially offensive line in a remake counts.

  • [Emile] notes that in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, one of Queen Bean's lines referring to Bowletta as "it" would not fly if the game were written after 2003. Come the 2017 remake, and Queen Bean's line is exactly the same.

Edited by rjd1922 on Sep 20th 2020 at 2:03:19 PM

Keet cleanup
ccorb from A very hot place Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
#1497: Sep 20th 2020 at 1:11:58 PM

[up] That sounds like Values Dissonance discussed In-Universe. Lets Plays and web videos have the pervasive issue of listing In-Universe YMMV on YMMV pages when they should be listed on main trope lists.

Edited by ccorb on Sep 20th 2020 at 4:13:19 AM

Rock'n'roll never dies!
rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#1498: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:21:32 PM

[up]It's also listed as discussed Values Dissonance on LetsPlay.Chuggaaconroy. Since Superstar Saga is less than 20 years old, Values Dissonance shouldn't be listed on its YMMV page, but it can be here since it's discussed.

Keet cleanup
WoodKnapp94 Since: May, 2020
#1499: Sep 20th 2020 at 7:09:50 PM

YMMV.Gomer Pyle USMC

  • Harsher in Hindsight: The opening credits featured real members of the Marine Corps, many of whom would later lose their lives during the Vietnam War. (Soldier mortality?!)
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: See the Ho Yay examples below after it's been revealed that Jim Nabors was gay in real life. (Not a very good example since it depends on another example for context.)
    • For a different vein of Hilarious in Hindsight, in the episode "Daughter of the Sarge," Sgt. Carter is obsessing over the marriage prospects of his adopted daughter, and hopes she marries a doctor note . At the end, it's established that she married a Marine captain with the last name of Pertwee. (Reach + Fan Myopia = Not Hilarious in Hindsight.)

Okay to cut these?

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#1500: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:14:00 PM

This is on The Electric Company (1971) under Harsher in Hindsight:

  • "Spidey Meets Silly Willy", 'No one would expect a clown to rob them!' with how ironic clowns have completely overwhelmed the unironic ones in popular culture and the 'scary clown' craze that happened, this scheme doesn't feel as plausible like it used to.


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