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Yes to those I missed except for Burrows and especially the Naruto fanfic baddie.

This thread has been over this countless times. Simply being unjustified doesn't make the FE invalid. Especially when he's motivated by revenge over friends and family.

Edited by Awesomekid42 on Jun 16th 2019 at 5:03:15 AM

For the purposes of this thread, what does invalidate a Freudian Excuse?

The FE being motivated by pure selfishness (such as Lotso Huggin Bear or Jack Slash) or the candidate explicitly throwing away said FE (such as Dio Brando and Doflamingo) tend to be the biggest red flags.

I was actually about to give Dio Brando as an example of a CM’s Freudian Excuse being invalidated. More specifically, how Dio’s “excuse” (his father being abusive) is invalidated when Dio kills his kindly adoptive father to become a mass-murdering vampire.

Edited by Pemulis_128 on Jun 16th 2019 at 4:09:00 AM

Pirate Lieutenant

"Little" Match Girl.

From the looks of it, It Does seem like his FE was invalidated as he went after people who had nothing to do with what happned to him, and was constantly hit with Freudian Excuse Is No Excuse from other charachters. Its Just that he had redeeming traits still.

Also to those I missed.

Edited by Kylotrope on Jun 16th 2019 at 2:13:30 AM

• Gentarō Hongō◊ from Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors.
• Aura Battler Dunbine: Lady Luuza Luft manipulates her powerful husband, Lord Drake Luft, so she can conquer Byston Well. Encouraging Drake's war, Luuza cares nothing for the people massacred, as long as it secures her power. Angered by her daughter, Riml, attempting to stop the war, Luuza has her beaten and imprisoned, later threatening Riml's life to make a group of rebels back down. Believing King Bishott Hale to be a better puppet than Drake, Luuza cheats on her husband with the king. When Drake becomes aware of Luuza's treachery, he sends Riml to arrest her, only for Luuza to murder her daughter in cold blood.
• Kinos Journey: The nameless king of the Land of the Coliseum is a tyrannical psycho who runs infamous Gladiator Games for his entertainment. Having murdered his father to ascend to the throne, the king eliminated anyone who may be a threat to him, including relatives and innocent civilians. He then divided the people into poverty and first-class, throwing the poor into dangerous living quarters and slavery. Even the first-class citizens weren't safe, as the king would execute them if they didn't follow his blood lust. He then created the Colosseum to throw any passing travelers to fight to the death to fuel his psychotic urges. When Kino refused to comply with him by sparing her opponents, the king grew furious and even executed one them in front of Kino. Among the many people Kino encountered, the king was one of the very few who manage to disturb her with his sheer cruelty.
• Chrysis is a priestess of Hera who forbade medical treatment in Argolis, believing it to be sacrilege. She has also kidnapped the Eagle Bearer's younger sibling and turned him and numerous others into human weapons for the Cult of Kosmos by torturing them when they were infants. Chrysis ordered a landlord of her own son, Dolops, to kill Dolops after he had threatened that he would notify the authorities about Chrysis taking children and raising them into human weapons if she doesn't stop. When confronted by the Eagle Bearer, Chrysis has the house with a baby inside burned, forcing the Eagle Bearer to choose between saving the baby and chasing Chrysis; should the Eagle Bearer chose the former, Chrysis would later ambush the Eagle Bearer, killing an innocent man along the way.
• Battlefields: Night Witches, by Garth Ennis et al.: Feldwebel Scholz is a stone cold, ruthless Nazi and the superior officer of main character Graf. Seemingly content with sadistically wiping out "Ivans", smugly dismissing as "subhuman" the life of a Witch who kills her injured friend and then herself to evade his capture, the true depths of Scholz's awfulness comes to demonstration when he captures a Witch on his own. Scholz has his entire unit gang-rape the woman, attempting to strong-arm Graf at gunpoint into doing so as well before executing the woman and forcing the broken Graf to stay in the cellar all night with her body lest he be killed as well for his weakness.
• Micronauts (Image Comics series): Baron Karza is an order-obsessed sociopath who stacks up well to his original counterpart's evil. Having risen to power by murdering the evil Emperor, Karza assumed control of his forces and began a campaign of death and experimentation across the Microverse, subjecting even children to his grotesque vivisections and other crimes against nature that take place in his Biovault. Always willing to murder his lieutenants should they fail him, Karza even coldly orders his own daughter's decapitation when she betrays him, and has no issue turning on leaving his partners to die once he's gotten his use out of them. Indulging in slave auctions of the rarest species in the galaxy—who he often makes rarer by wiping out most of their races himself—Karza leads an assault on Earth that claims millions of lives, as he plans to wipe out every last human with an IQ higher than 80 then turn the rest into slaves and experimental stock. Even Karza's Freudian Excuse is utterly dismantled, as it is revealed that he himself kickstarted his own tragic past with time travel simply to ensure his own creation.
• Tintin: Roberto Rastapopoulos is Tintin's Arch-Enemy. Debuting as a seemingly benign film producer, Rastapopoulos is in reality the ringleader of an international drug cartel that utilizes a poison to drive his enemies, interlopers, and any disloyal minions insane. When his operations in Cairo and India crumble, Rastapopoulos kidnaps the Maharajah's son and attempts to crush the boy and Tintin with a boulder, only to apparently fall to his death. Revealing to have survived in China, Rastapopoulos orders the execution of Tintin and Mr. Wang's family, to be beheaded by Mr. Wang's own drugged son. He later returns as the ringleader of a slave trafficking ring, abducting Muslims under the pretense of granting them safe passage, only to later sell them off. Discovering Tintin's interference, Rastapopoulos shows no regard for the lives of innocents in his attempts on Tintin's life; he arranges for a bomb to be planted in Tintin's passenger plane, and later orders a submarine to torpedo the slave ship Tintin had commandeered. In his final appearance, Rastapopoulos attempts to rebuild his fortune by stealing Lazlo Carreidas's own using a truth serum. But when accidentally injected with said serum, he gleefully reveals his plan to have most of his minions killed off once he claims Carreidas's fortune. Driven by Greed, Rastapopoulos truly lives up to his self-proclaimed moniker as "devil incarnate".
• Batman Begins: Dr. Jonathan Crane, aka the Scarecrow, is even worse than his film counterpart. Helping Ra's al Ghul by developing the gas needed for his plan, Scarecrow tests it out on innocent people, having them driven insane and using them as attack dogs. Scarecrow shows no concern when many of his men are infected by the gas and holds the brother of one of his men hostage. When Batman reaches his lair, Scarecrow tries to leave his patients to burn to death. When Ra's starts his plan to release the gas into Gotham, Scarecrow tries to lower the bridge to allow the first few people to be infected into the city to start tearing it apart.
• The Jungle Book novelization The Strength of the Wolf is the Pack, by Scott Peterson & Joshua Pruett: Shere Khan is even worse than in the film. Having killed Mowgli's father when Mowgli was a baby, Khan wants to kill Mowgli as well as an act of revenge for having been burned by his father. When the wolves try to send Mowgli to the man village, Khan murders their leader and Mowgli's adoptive father, Akela. He threatens to kill the wolf pups if Raksha displeases him. When a jackal provides Khan with useful information, Khan kills him just for asking for scraps of food in return. When Mowgli returns, Khan nearly kills Baloo and Bagheera to get to him, and taunts him about having killed both of his fathers.
• The Captain Goodking Saga: Sanies begins his career by consuming his future master's assistant and practicing the spells he taught him on various unwilling victims, leaving them dead or in various awful states from him absorbing their life and magic. Sanies proceeds to massacre a village in the Dragon Lands to gain Celestia's attention and to take over her mind. Failing at this, Sanies tricks Luna and Discord into resurrecting the Storm King, allowing him to go on a magic-fueled rampage before betraying him and using his power to destroy the world. When Sanies's master returns, Sanies uses Chrysalis's body to disguise himself as a corrupted Star-Swirl and uses corrupted illusions of the other Pillars so he and his master can convince Stygian to become the Pony of Shadows again. He then possesses Luna's body, killing Captain Goodking numerous times within a dream world to burn time while making the moon slowly descend upon Equestria to crush it.
• My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic/Cthulhu Mythos crossover The Stars Will Aid Their Escape: Herald is an avatar of Nyarlathotep and is just as sadistic as all his other incarnations. When he comes across a disgruntled Trixie, he offers her the Neighcronomicon, to which she goes mad with power. He then lures the Cutie Mark Crusaders somewhere secluded so that he can rip out their souls and goads Rainbow Dash into collapsing the building they're in so that Dash thinks she's the reason the Crusaders are catatonic, but not before rendering Twilight hopelessly insane when he registers her as a possible threat. When he reveals himself to the princesses, he uses the Crusaders' souls so they don't try to banish him. He then has his Dark Young henchmen slaughter most of the Royal Guard and, after a few breaking speeches as well as completing his goal of summoning the Outer Gods, he throws the jar containing the Crusaders' souls over a waterfall just to hurt the Mane Six more.
• Avatar: The Last Airbender fanfic The Fall of the Fire Empire: Dragon Empress Azula, shedding all her canon redeeming qualities, assisted in the murder of her brother, Zuko; killed her "friend", Mai, when Mai confronted her; and helped her father, Ozai, kill her uncle, Iroh, by poisoning Iroh's tea. Helping the Fire Empire on a genocidal, brutal conquest, Azula ascends to the throne where she promotes slavery and ethnic cleansing, having entire villages in the Earth Kingdom annihilated for not giving up people to be slaves. Upon learning her mortality cannot be staved off, Azula massacres the Fire Sage order and plots to spark a war after her death, intending on plunging her kingdom into a titanic, horrific conflict to kill countless innocents and secure her bloody legacy.
• Class of 1999: Dr. Robert "Bob" Forest is the greedy head of Megatech and the creator of the malfunctioning teaching droids. Wanting a multi-billion dollar contract with the Department Of Education Defense, Forrest creates three shoddy education androids, which are in reality military surplus droids with a teaching module inserted in them. When an experimental test run of the droids goes wrong, he refuses to shut down the program, occasionally blaming their victims in the process. When Principal Langford tries to shut the experiment down, Forrest has the droids kill him. When surviving teens confront him in their school, he takes Langford's daughter Christie hostage, gunning down one of the survivors when he tries to stop him.
• Door Lock (2018): Han Dong Hoon is a Serial Killer who easily obsesses over women, becoming violent when they reject his romantic advances. Starting by killing a woman while working at a hotel for tourists, Han made her death look like suicide and was transferred to an officetel, where he was responsible for multiple disappearances in the area. Setting his eyes on Kyung-min's neighbor, Han kidnapped her and amputated both of her legs, keeping her alive but barely conscious in a bed. Growing bored of his victim, Han found a replacement for her in the form of Kyung-min, killing the woman and dumping her dismembered body parts in a garbage can. Regularly invading Kyung-min's home in the middle of the night to sleep beside her naked, Han kills her innocent boss, another stalker who had been harassing her, and removes the leg of her best friend as revenge for trying to interrupt him. After kidnapping Kyung-min, Han gives her a chance to escape but informs her that he will cut her arms and legs if he catches her again, killing a police detective and mocking Kyung-min for having "too many men" around her.
• The Gifted Hands (2013): Ki-woo is a childish psychopath who is prone to random fits of laughter when exposed to violence. A reserved and unassuming veterinarian, Ki-woo is in fact a merciless child killer who confesses to not having a motive or a reason to kidnap and murder innocent children, doing it simply because he can. Killing the puppies under his care, Ki-woo uses their frozen bodies to lure little girls into his car, with the mother of one of his victims eventually committing suicide. After kidnapping a girl, placing her inside a plastic bag and leaving her to suffocate to death in a freezer, Ki-woo twists his knife in the stomach of the police detective who came to stop him, but pathetically begs to be saved when he sees himself in danger.
• King Kong Escapes: Dr. Who is an egotistical Mad Scientist working for an unnamed country represented by Madame Piranha. Planning to help make her country a nuclear superpower, he creates the Mechani-Kong to mine for Element X, before deciding to use the real Kong. Attacking and capturing Kong on his island, Who guns down a innocent native for no particular reason, before taking Commander Carl Nelson and his lieutenants hostage, torturing Jiro and Susan by rapidly freezing them, and threatening to personally disfigure Susan's face. When Kong and the crew manage to escape, Who plans to force Kong to fight the Mechani-Kong to fight in the city of Tokyo, not caring that he'd kill thousands of people; when this is protested by Madame Piranha, Who scoffs at her for being a moralist. In Kong and the Mechani-Kong's ensuing fight, Who has Susan taken hostage and threatens to drop her to her death, and when Piranha herself tries to stop his madness, Who shoots her to death in retaliation.
• Max Steel: Miles Edwards is a sociopathic Mad Scientist obsessed with harnessing the alien power of turbo energy. To this end, Miles betrayed the Earth defense force he was part of, N-Tek, to the evil Ultralink aliens, leading to the deaths of at least 5 of his former partners. In exchange for allying with the Ultralinks, Miles was granted the capability to betray his former best friend Jim McGrath, who constantly produced turbo energy due to his alien biology, and tried to drain him of the turbo energy, leading to the man's agonizing death. Years later, once learning that Jim's teenage son, Max, has begun giving off turbo as well, Miles sics an Ultralink on the boy, nearly killing innocents in the process, and, after failing to trick the boy into giving up his turbo, Miles settles for absorbing the Energy directly into himself, hoping to kill the boy in the same painful way as his father, while brutally murdering numerous N-Tek soldiers who attempt to save Max. Miles is fully aware that the Ultralinks are world destroyers and will invade Earth once the turbo energy is contained by him, but doesn't care one bit, showing no concern for any life or person except the turbo energy he is so obsessed with.
• Ultra Warrior (1990): The evil Bishop is a warlord who rules over a stretch of nuclear wasteland called Oblivion, using his armies to massacre entire communities of innocent Muties while kidnapping many more to serve the sexual pleasures of him and his cohorts or simply to pit them in fights to the death in his Colosseum. The Bishop has those he captures put to grueling slavery in the mines to harvest zirconium, and when a foreign agent, Kenner, comes into his territory seeking the zirconium, the Bishop attempts to have him put in the Colosseum to die. Further ordering the Muties' main village massacred, the Bishop is ultimately revealed to be a Mutie himself before escaping into thin air.
• G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (Marvel): The original Cobra Commander himself is, underneath any silliness or ridiculous behavior, a truly vile, heinous monster who has earned his title of the Arch-Enemy of the G.I. Joes. A former car salesman who got his start with well-intentioned goals following the death of his brother, the Commander quickly moved beyond this altruistic outlook, growing in ambition and love for power as he killed thousands of people in his various maniacal plots. Returning from the grave after a seeming change of heart, the Commander brags that he has thrown away all of his humanity and redeeming qualities, illustrating this by burying his own son alive along with many of his former allies. Orchestrating a variety of atrocities that ranged from nuking cities to dropping acid rain onto others, the Commander throws away the lives of hundreds of loyal recruits to illustrate his cruelty, and his villainy culminates in the final arc of the series by Devil's Due Publishing, in which the Commander murders his son, Billy, simply to prove that he can, and tries to wipe out all life on Earth so he can feel like a god. Cobra Commander goes through a variety of character twists and turns, but always is brought back to his roots: a psychopath who willingly, happily has chosen to destroy his humanity and embrace pure evil for the power and glory it brings him.
• Sigma 6: Cobra Commander is as bombastically villainous as always, and despite the heavy censorship of this series, stands out as a purely evil warlord. Using "Thor's Hammer" to obliterate the G.I. Joe base of operations, the Commander then attempts to use "Thor's Hammer" to carve off the entire East Coast of America so as to invade it and create his own country, uncaring of the massive casualties that would ensue. The Commander pulls off a variety of other terrorist acts that endanger many innocent people—all while threatening the lives of his minions and command council for the slightest of failures—and reaches the apex of his evil when he unveils the Terrordrome. Using the Terrordrome, the Commander throws all of Earth's weather into catastrophic conditions, causing floods and forest fires worldwide that endanger countless lives, and follows it up by threatening to leave entire countries in these conditions while revealing he has frozen all of the world's leaders alive to serve as trophies to his conquest.
• Operation HISS tie-in comic: Major Sebastian Bludd is a mercenary hired by Cobra to cover up its criminal activities and enable the escape of Cobra Commander from imprisonment. Using nanite technology to turn entire factories of workers into living statues or bloodthirsty soldiers, Bludd kidnaps a variety of military soldiers to use as hostages, executing one simply because his rank is higher than "major". Bludd demands the release of Cobra Commander, threatening to start detonating bombs across the entire world and kill thousands of people if his demands are not met, and illustrates the threat is real by blowing up the Golden Gate bridge, killing everyone on it with smug satisfaction before ordering a variety of other bombs be detonated—though noting to spare Sydney, Australia from any of them, as he has family there he wants to kill with his bare hands very soon.
• The Expanse: Marco Inaros, from Nemesis Games and Babylon's Ashes, is the leader of the Free Navy. When he was younger, Marco tricked his girlfriend, Naomi, into helping him sabotage ships' magnetic bottles, allowing him to destroy any ship he wants without any sign of foul play. When Naomi protested this, Marco forbade her from seeing their son, Filip. When Naomi left him, Marco raised Filip to believe that Naomi was a weak-willed coward who abandoned him out of spite. Marco uses Filip to help carry out an asteroid bombardment of Earth that kills 15 billion people. While Marco claims to be fighting for his fellow Belters, he nearly destroys a large chunk of Tycho Station just to kill Holden for dating Naomi, and cripples Ceres Station through looting just to slow down his enemies. Marco justifies his crimes against the Belters by claiming that they weren't "true Belters", but it quickly becomes apparent that Marco defines true Belters as only those who are personally loyal to him.
• The Jungle Book novelization The Strength of the Wolf is the Pack, by Scott Peterson & Joshua Pruett: Shere Khan is even worse than in the film. Having killed Mowgli's father when Mowgli was a baby, Khan wants to kill Mowgli as well as an act of revenge for having been burned by his father. When the wolves try to send Mowgli to the man village, Khan murders their leader and Mowgli's adoptive father, Akela. He threatens to kill the wolf pups if Raksha displeases him. When a jackal provides Khan with useful information, Khan kills him just for asking for scraps of food in return. When Mowgli returns, Khan nearly kills Baloo and Bagheera to get to him, and taunts him about having killed both of his fathers.
• The One Who Eats Monsters: Mr. Saxby is the worst of the nightmarish Asuras, with his evil exceeding even his cabal leader, Ghorm. A seemingly mild-mannered, average little man in his human guise, Saxby assists in sowing chaos and evil, having people killed and arranging other atrocities and even terrorist activities. A particular fan of experimenting on human beings, Saxby takes others and subjects them to ghastly procedures to slake his curiosity, even stitching numerous human beings together into a horrific, agonized creature to go after the heroine Ryn with only vague promises he may spare it of its suffering. Having homeless people and drifters abducted to kill or to serve as food for dogs, Saxby later tries to target Ryn's lover Naomi before trying to kill Ryn herself.
• Population Zero, by Wrath James White: Todd Hammerstein is a despicable misanthrope who hates each and every human on Earth, and seeks to cull the population by means of sterilization. Blackmailing a variety of women into getting abortions in exchange for their needed welfare, Todd graduates in his evil by performing a forced vasectomy on a man who has fathered a variety of children, then decapitating him. Later vivisecting a woman and ripping her fetus out of her, Todd continues his insane quest by bludgeoning his pregnant ex-girlfriend with a hammer to make her miscarry, and marches into a house for homeless pregnant women, where he proceeds to murder the owner, beat many of the women, and mutilate them all by crudely and sadistically inducing miscarriages. Despite various crises of conscience and even a shred of guilt, Todd shrugs it all off and continues his descent into depravity until his "humanity is destroyed", solidified as he poisons the water supply for millions of women with an experimental chemical that induces miscarriages and sterilizes all those who consume it.
• The Summoning, by Bentley Little: The Cup Hu Gurngsi is an ancient, evil vampire that has grown tired of living in the shadows, and schemes to bring death and suffering across the planet to satisfy its sadism. Invading the town of Rio Verde and corrupting its townsfolk into fanatics willing to torture their own children to death, the Cup Hu Gurngsi devours dozens of townsfolk as it increases its power and influence, eventually decorating its lair with butchered infants, gutted women and countless murals to the Cup Hu Gurngsi's vile centuries of atrocities. The Cup Hu Gurngsi plans to Take Over the World and turn all of the Earth into its feeding ground to torture and devour humanity for all eternity, and uses its final moments to brag that it had Rich Carter's wife and daughter raped before it killed them just to mock the man.
• The Makluan Overlord, from the two-part series finale, is the supreme ruler of the Makluan race. For thousands of years, he used the powers of the Ten Rings to conquer countless worlds and enslave entire civilizations, in some instances destroying them. After his son stole the Rings, the Overlord started chasing him all across the universe, determined to kill him for his betrayal. Once he discovers the Rings are hidden on Earth, he comes there with his army and quickly retrieves them before sending drones and giant robots to cause havoc in the nearest city, much to his sadistic entertainment. Amused by the efforts of Iron Man and his friends to defend their planet, the Makluan Overlord offers them to spare Earth if they manage to defeat his best warriors in his Arena of Carnage. However, he refuses to keep his promise when they win his challenge and prepares to destroy the whole planet instead, gleefully electrocuting all the humans who try to oppose him beforehand. Despite his claims that he's fulfilling the great Makluan prophecy and bringing order in the cosmos, it is obvious to everyone that the Makluan Overlord is nothing more than a power-hungry tyrant who merely wants to enslave the entire universe.
• Bullseye, by Ed Brisson et al.: Teodor Zarco is a Columbian drug lord who lords over the Black Knife Cartel with a sadistic, iron fist. Teodor gained infamy when he captured a squad of federal agents investigating his activities and tortured to death everyone who has ever known them in front of the agents one by one. Planning to expand the Black Knife to America, Teodor is introduced torturing a man to death as slowly as he can, and later is seen getting ready to butcher dozens of his minions who were stealing some of his drugs, planning to cut them all up and ship them to their mothers in little baggies. Upon being investigated by more federal agents, Teodor captures them all and plans to feed them to his pet tiger, before betraying and trying to kill his American partner just for irritating him. Even in a comic featuring the world's greatest assassin Bullseye, Teodor stands out with his sadistically vile actions for a mere drug lord.
• Masters of the Universe (1982 DC Comics miniseries): Skeletor is a demon who invades worlds, bringing death and chaos to every planet he visits. With the goal of conquering Eternia, Skeletor has kidnapped the Goddess, this story's version of the Sorceress, to force He-Man to get him 3 talismans that will allow him to gain the Sword of Power. Skeletor has his Beast Men attack Stratos's kingdom, just so that He-Man can discover one of the talismans there. Later, Skeletor teleports his minion Merman away to be tortured when Merman tried to gain the sword for himself. An evil wizard named Damon is trying to foil Skeletor, wanting to use the sword to conquer Eternia, but also fearing what Skeletor would do with the sword. Damon attacks Skeletor, their magical duel creating a wormhole that teleports Damon and Skeletor to the heart of Castle Grayskull, where the Sword is kept. Damon thinks he has outwitted Skeletor, but Skeletor reveals that he was playing dumb and knew of Damon's plan, letting him do all the work. Skeletor then kills Damon and obtains the sword. After being confronted by He-Man, Skeletor uses the sword's magic to summon He-Man's ally Man-E-Faces and mind controls him so that he tries to kill He-Man. Ultimately Skeletor plans to use the sword's power to start a campaign of carnage across the galaxy, starting with Eternia.
• Incursion: Imperatrix Virago is the queen of the Horde. Having survived her homeworld's destruction at the hands of the girl Syntilla, Virago swayed Syntilla to her side and raised an undead army, with which she moves through the stars, using Syntilla to infect worlds with necromantic blights, poisoning the people and condemning them. Feeding off the energy to stay young and beautiful, Virago proceeds to annihilate the worlds, killing some people herself as trophies. Upon arriving on Earth, Virago unleashes her forces to kill their way through the world to obtain the Geomancer Tama to feed on her and the world itself, caring only for her vanity and greed.
• Dark Seed II: The Shapeshifter, aka Jack, Mike Dawson's Dark World counterpart, is a follower of the Ancients who participates in their plan to awaken the Behemoth to Kill All Humans. Murdering the members of the Other World cult—including Rita, Doc Larson, and Mayor Fleming—and decapitating them to power the Behemoth with their heads, the Shapeshifter frames Mike Dawson for the murders, before later killing Mike's therapist Dr. Sims and Mike himself.
• Dead Rising series: Even in the midst of a zombie outbreak, the following prove that Humans Are the Real Monsters:
  • Road to Fortune prequel comic, Dead Rising 2, Dead Rising 3: Marian Mallon is the Director of Phenotrans and the mastermind behind their conspiracy; in order to necessitate the creation of Zombrex, Mallon has zombie outbreaks start in cities all over the country in order to harvest "Queen" zombies, infecting and killing countless people. Her planned Los Vegas outbreak alone kills 10,000 people, and Mallon has a scientist who tried to leak the truth killed. Mallon also keeps Isabella Keyes as a constant captive, stealing Keyes's research and forcing her to work for Phenotrans. When Frank West and Chuck Greene uncover the conspiracy, they discover Mallon has been committing mass kidnappings for her experiments, and Mallon claims Phenotrans created a cure for the zombie virus which she hoards for her own infection, also stating releasing permanent cure wouldn't be good for business. By the time of the third game, Mallon agrees to seek the permanent cure when her condition starts to deteriorate, starting another outbreak, teaming up with Hemlock in his bid to take over the country. Narrowing the immunity carrier down to Nick Ramos and his friend Diego Martinez, Mallon kills Diego by causing his parasites to explode from inside him, resulting in his gruesome death.
  • Dead Rising 2: Tyrone "TK" King is the host of the controversial reality show "Terror is Reality", wherein contestants slaughter zombies, much to TK's profit and entertainment. Accepting payment from Phenotrans, TK helps them set a zombie outbreak on the city, framing Chuck Greene for his crime. Taking advantage of the chaos, TK robs every casino vault he can find. Eventually bitten by a zombie, TK begs Chuck to save him with Zombrex, immediately swearing to kill Chuck's daughter if he's saved. Taking Chuck's young daughter and friend hostage, TK forces Chuck to get him blackmail material on Phenotrans to gain leverage on them, spitefully trying to murder Chuck, along with his daughter and friend afterwards.
  • Dead Rising 3:
    • General John Hemlock, Secretary of Defense, oversees the martial law over the zombie outbreak in Los Peridos, and is working alongside Marian Mallon, acting President in the absence of Sonya Paddock. In reality, Hemlock had Paddock kidnapped and forcibly infected with the zombie parasite, so that he could take over. Hemlock plans to firebomb the city it in a week if there are no signs of organic life, and he uses his psychotic henchwoman Sgt. Hilde Schmittendorf to kill civilians. His plan is to extract King Zombies from the city and use them to start and control outbreaks all over the Eastern Seaboard to continue imposing martial law and leave him as the de facto dictator. When Mallon disrespects Hemlock, he kills her by throwing her off a building.
    • Albert Contiello is a sadistic surgeon who represents the sin of Greed. During the outbreak, Contiello takes to abducting survivors and begins performing surgery on them without anesthetic to harvest their organs for the black market. When he captures Nick Ramos, Contiello injects him with a hallucinogen that makes him hallucinate everyone around as Contiello, putting other innocent survivors at risk.
• Deep Freeze: Phobos is one of Marsha "MAM" M'Flusvska's sons, and a soldier of Hephaistos alongside his brother Deimos. Tasked with gaining control of the Judgement Sphere satellite in order to annihilate humanity and restore the environment, Phobos decides to go against MAM's wishes by using the satellite to make himself the Earth's new ruler. Leading a terrorist attack on the Vice President's son's wedding, Phobos later kills MAM and Deimos before gleefully admitting to manipulating Ney into killing her parents.
• Max Steel: Covert Missions: Dawn is an Evilutionary Biologist who believes that humankind has grown weak and needs to evolve under her guiding hand. Orchestrating the kidnapping of Jefferson Smith, Dawn performs a variety of experiments on people to turn them into monstrous, zombie-like abominations that she seeks to transform all of humanity into, leaving her experiments and own soldiers to die when she flees Max Steel and sets her base to self-destruct. Dawn first tries to launch a missile to wipe out an entire city and transform its population into her zombies, then reveals her newest plan to use a gaseous dispersal plan with an air blimp, hoping to move from city to city until every human is a writhing, twisted creature bent to her will.
• Metal Wolf Chaos: Vice President Richard Hawk ousts the heroic Michael Wilson from office, proceeding to turn the US into a military dictatorship under his control. Using prisoners of war as shields, Richard proceeds to order them gunned down while also attacking American cities in an attempt to kill Michael, now piloting the mechanical armor known as Metal Wolf. Richard reinstitutes slave labor, selling people in Miami into white slavery, and attempts to frame Metal Wolf by using poison gas to wipe out Chicago before also using a giant mech to try to wipe out New York. When Michael defeats him, Richard attempts to flee to space, where he has prepared the Ultimate Weapon to wipe out all of the United States out of spite at his loss.
• The Mystery of the Druids:
  • Druid Serstan is the tyrannical leader of the Druids. Having murdered his family and household, Serstan, knowing that the era of the Druids of Britain was coming to an end, sought out a spell to grant his five children Druid powers to carry out his scheme of Druid control over the earth, burning his entire Druid brethren to complete the ritual. After Detective Brent Halligan and Melanie Turner arrive in his time period, Serstan has Druid Maglor killed for helping take him down, and threatens Melanie with death should Halligan not give him the items required for the ritual.
  • Lord Sinclair, one of Serstan's five sons, is the leader of the Circle who seeks to carry out Serstan's plan to take over the world. Having been granted the power of the Druids, Sinclair partook in ritualistic cannibalism to make himself immortal and stronger, having done so for centuries. When Halligan arrives at his mansion, Sinclair has him captured to be later used as a sacrifice, brainwashing him into joining the Circle after he escapes, and later kills Mr. Blake for assisting Halligan and Melanie.
• T.R.A.G.: Tactical Rescue Assault Group—Mission of Mercy: Miguel is the leader of a terrorist organization out to acquire a disc that would launch the Garland System Satellite upon the Earth. Hired by Professor Vault, he would later betray him by trapping him inside a computer, seeking to use the satellite to rule the world. Invading the Togusa building and allowing his men to murder everyone there, he lets Gasshu deploy a bomb set to destroy the entire building, murders Professor Howard in a hostage trade for the disc, and sets the satellite to blow up the entire town while he makes an escape.
• Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors: Gentarō Hongō, better known by his code name "Ace", first appears as a helpful and altruistic ally until he is revealed to be the CEO of Cradle Pharmaceutical(s). He created the First Nonary Game, kidnapping eighteen children and forcing them to commit numerous tasks with their lives on the line, for the sake of curing his prosopagnosia, inability to recognize faces. Hongō personally shoves the young Akane in an incinerator after an unsuccessful escape attempt where she burns alive, being too frightened and clueless to solve the Sudoku puzzle required to escape. In the Second Nonary Game, this time as a participant himself, he intends to betray and murder everyone in exchange for their bracelets, succeeding in the Submarine Ending. First, he successfully murders his three colleagues in order to hide his identity and keep his crimes from never reaching the court. He also murders Clover in the alternate Safe Ending, later taunting her brother Snake how he loved the sensation. An utterly corrupted, delusional and sadistic man, Hongō is willing to murder anyone who stands in his way while at the same time trying to claim that he is a tragic individual.
• My Brother Died Three Weeks Ago: The Man Upstairs is a menacing boogeyman figure and the reason for the titular brother's suicide. When Josh tries to investigate the true circumstances behind his brother Ade's death, it is ultimately discovered that the enigmatic "Man Upstairs" is none other than their unnamed father. With Ade's hidden journal discovered, it's revealed that Ade found his father digging through a secret bunker, and discovers his father is a serial child murderer using the bunker to dispose of the bodies, with at least nine murders to his name. His father forces Ade to keep quiet by threatening not only to murder him but the rest of his family as well. Ade spends months in silent torment with the Man Upstairs—who he no longer sees as his father—constantly watching him, and holding the threat over his head, until the fear and shame drives Ade to suicide. Afterwards, his father seems willing to use Ade as a scapegoat, and even when exposed and arrested, tries to deny responsibility.
• Crypt TV:
  • Sunny Family Cult: Roger is the ultimate villain of the series, and previous leader of the titular murder cult before being kicked out. Roger goes on an independent killing spree searching for his niece Taylor, tormenting her and her friend Janine and killing Janine's boyfriend. Roger also maims Allie Anne in an attempt to intimidate her and her mother. Posing as a friendly teacher and detective, Roger gets close to and abducts Taylor. When he first founded the cult, their goals to kill the corrupt and cleanse society were simply an outlet for his own misanthropy, and ambitions to become one of the "Divine Beings of Darkness". Years prior, Roger used to bully and twist his younger brother Elias into a devout follower, and tries to kill him before being defeated; Roger declares the cult his family before disowning them when they exile him and pick Elias over him. In the present, Roger butchers the guests and staff of a motel, explaining his ritual needs Taylor broken to fulfill his prophecy. Roger fatally wounds Elias before Taylor finally kills him, starting Roger's transformation.
  • Fight Night: Micah is the greedy and vicious manager of the titular underground fight club, with the MO of kidnapping monsters from across the country and fitting them with shock collars to keep them in line; she then has humans kidnapped to go up against these monsters in a fighting ring where they are inevitably slaughtered. At one point, she uses her collars to torture Estelle (of Mohawk) when she tries to escape, only relenting when she needed Estelle for a later match. While she claims to seek out criminals and the corrupt, it's purely for the entertainment of her audience and the money she'd get. In some cases she may even have people framed in order to dishonestly throw into the ring in order to sell a story; such is seemingly the case with a woman accused of killing her own baby. When Porter realizes the woman is innocent and tries to help her escape, Micah gouges out one of his eyes and throws him in the ring in retaliation, and then tries to kill Porter herself when he frees Colossus.
• Genkins was part of a false pantheon of gods, "The Cosmic Powers", meant to trick other species into subservience. Desiring true godhood, he joined forces with Chrovos to remake the universe In Their Own Image. He proceeded to help manipulate the Reds and Blues into causing a Time Crash, going as far as to exploit Wash's PTSD he gained from his neck injury and generating a mini black hole to sadistically murder Huggins when she tried to interfere. After the time crash, Genkins traveled around the time stream to cause further paradoxes to further weaken Chrovos's prison. Eventually, Genkins steals Chrovos's power to kill them before trapping the Reds and Blues in Labyrinth to torture them to death.
• Gynx: In this deconstruction of vigilante revenge against sexual abuse, Genevieve, aka Gynx, seems to be a empathetic and loving figure taking in girls damaged by their past of sexual abuse. She eggs on their fantasies of kidnapping their rapists and castrating them, going on to carry out such kidnappings. At least thirty two men are castrated in these escapades, and while their targets are rapists and child molesters, there's a suggestion that some of them could be innocent and falsely accused. It is soon shown that she is emotionally manipulating and is controlling of the women who follow her, until they have a cult-like devotion to her. Despite her speeches of revenge against victimizers and empowering female victims, it's revealed she is secretly working for a torture porn website that feeds a castration fetish, keeping the money for herself. When Petie confronts her about it, Gynx has her abduct a rapist herself to mutilate. When Petie ends up beating said rapist to death on the stream, Gynx and the other girls ultimately abandon her, with Gynx revealing that she is simply looking for believable victims to throw under the bus.
• King Kong Escapes: Dr. Who is an egotistical Mad Scientist working for an unnamed country represented by Madame Piranha. Planning to help make her country a nuclear superpower, he creates the Mechani-Kong to mine for Element X, before deciding to use the real Kong. Attacking and capturing Kong on his island, Who guns down a innocent native for no particular reason, before taking Commander Carl Nelson and his lieutenants hostage, torturing Jiro and Susan by rapidly freezing them, and threatening to personally disfigure Susan's face. When Kong and the crew manage to escape, Who plans to force Kong to fight the Mechani-Kong to fight in the city of Tokyo, not caring that he'd kill thousands of people; when this is protested by Madame Piranha, Who scoffs at her for being a moralist. In Kong and the Mechani-Kong's ensuing fight, Who has Susan taken hostage and threatens to drop her to her death, and when Piranha herself tries to stop his madness, Who shoots her to death in retaliation.

• Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019): Ghidorah, The One Who is Many, is an invasive alien Kaiju who fought the Kaiju of Earth for control of the planet before being defeated and sealed away in ancient times. Released from his prison in the present day, Ghidorah cheerfully kills several humans before and during a fight with his Arch-Enemy Godzilla, displaying a simplistic thirst for blood that clashes horribly with the natural animal instincts that motivate the terrestrial Kaiju. After the apparent death of Godzilla leaves Ghidorah virtually impossible to defeat, he uses his powers to enslave the remaining Kaiju of Earth, forcibly awakening them and commanding them to wipe out all human life on the planet. When Madison Russell uses a device called the ORCA to disrupt his plans, he attempts to kill her in cold blood simply because he can. A sinister analogue to the Devil opposite the benevolent God-like Godzilla, King Ghidorah is just as wicked here as he was at the start of his movie career.

• D'Spayre, real name Andre Deschaine, the Big Bad of season 2, was once an aspiring jazz musician who received powers from the Roxxon oil rig explosion, which allowed him to remove his headache pain by feeding off the despair of others. To cultivate this despair, he manipulates a nurse named Avandalia "Lia" Dewan into abandoning her life for him, and together they cultivate a sexual slavery ring under the guise of a community support group for abuse victims, using the group to find more victims. Once Ty and Tandy destroy the ring, D'Spayre feeds off Avandalia one more time, and abandons her barely-living body on the side of the road. After visiting the voodoo priestess Chantelle, who he later murders, D'Spayre uses his powers to rise to godhood, abducting people from across New Orleans to his Pocket Dimension so he can feed off their despair forever. While on the surface a helpful community support worker, D'Spayre is truly a sociopathic monster who inflicts unimaginable horrors on anyone who isn't himself in order to fuel his own power.

Edited by ACW on Jun 17th 2019 at 7:09:56 AM

50 this week (Satan and Blackout need to be trimmed).

XO: To answer your question, it's a case-by-case basis. Factors include how the narrative treats the FE, how other characters react to it, and if the candidate engages in unjustifiable Disproportionate Retribution.

Edited by ACW on Jun 16th 2019 at 5:38:13 AM

Bored now. Making an EP on somebody who it looks like hasn’t been proposed on the thread yet.

What’s the work?

The Rising Of The Shield Hero is an Isekai about four people from parallel versions of modern day Japan all being dragged into a fantasy world that's very similar to MMOs to protect it from calamity. Each of the four Heroes receive a legendary weapon unique to them, with the protagonist, Naofumi becoming the Hero of the Shield. However, the Shield was looked down upon as useless so Naofumi already wasn’t viewed with respect. Add on to the king of the kingdom of Melromarc having a grudge due to the previous Shield Hero being worshipped by demihumans (demihumans seemingly killed his sister) and one of the princesses lying that Naofumi tried to rape her For the Evulz, and Naofumi’s been treated as a criminal, and left unable to trust anybody in the world, his faith restored by the racoon demi-human (humans with animal features), Raphtalia.

Raphtalia was initially bought by Naofumi as a slave so that he could get stronger (as she kills enemies, he gains some exp as well, and since Naofumi can only wield a shield, his options for combat are limited). Part of the reason Naofumi buys her is because she was dying due to how she was treated by her previous owner, so he saves her life and treats her well. Later on, the two comes across Raphtalia’s former owner.

Who is he? What does he do?

Idol Rabier (nameless in the original novel) is a nobleman of Melomarc and a hater of demi-humans. After the first wave of monsters attacked the world prior to the story, Rabier had knights attack a destroyed village populated by demi-humans, kill the adult survivors, and kidnap several children for him (the wiki states that he bought them, but the knights take the children directly to Rabier’s dungeon and they didn’t have slave crests like a bought slave, so that doesn’t seem to be the case). Rabier regularly abused the children for his own sadistic pleasure, chaining them up and whipping them until they cry night after night. Several demi-humans died due to his treatment, including Raphtalia’s friend Rifana.

Bored of Raftalia because she never actually cried during torture, Rabier sold her to a slave merchant. Months later, Naofumi, Raphtalia, Filo, and Princess Melty take refuge in a town where a friend of Melty’s, Van Reichnott, is the lord of (Naofumi’s been slandered even further as being a slaughterer of innocent and kidnapper+brainwasher of Melty). However, Rabier comes and takes over the land the next day, imprisoning Reichnott. Rabier searches for Naofumi and his friends, but Melty states that they left. Rabier takes Melty to his manor and shows that he had Van Reichnott tortured in an attempt to get him to tell him where Naofumi was hiding (Reichnott refused to tell him) He then moves on to the chid Melty, attempting to torture her for the information as well talking about how much he’ll enjoy making her face warp into despair and agony.

Naofumi’s party comes to the rescue, and after Idol tries to use Melty as a hostage, Raphtalia comes and points a sword at his neck. Idol begs for his life out of fear. In the novel, Raphtalia simply stabs him and throws him out the window while in the anime, Raphtalia decides to spare him but Idol tries to kill her anyway stating that all demi-humans are better off dead. Raphtalia stabs him in self defense, Idol Rabier trips over his whip, and falls out the window.

However, either versions had Rabier turn out to be alive. With the last of his strength, he crawls to where a demonic t-rex monster is sealed, and unseals it. He tells the monster to destroy the village and everything in sight all for the sake of killing “The Demonic Shield” and look like a hero. However, the monster stomps on Rabier, killing him.

Heinous by the standards of the story?

This is where I’m hesitant. There are a lot of nasty people in Shield Hero. Melty’s sister, Princess Malty, regularly lies about men raping her and haves them executed for fun (Naofumi and later on Motoyasu are spared execution due to being chosen heroes) along with trying to kill her own sister, the king of Faubley raped, tortured, and killed thousands of his brides, and there’s an evil goddess trying to destroy all eight worlds. Idol Rabier is just a regular noble though, and slaughtering surviving innocents in a village, torturing multiple children, often to death, along with willing to throw away the lives of countless innocents by unleashing a monster all for personal glory does make him stand out more than the typical minor villain by a long shot.

Freudian Excuse? Any other mitigating factors?

Nope. He claims to be a holy man doing this for the good of the world, but he’s just a sadistic bully who wants to be praised, and is perfectly willing to have villages of innocents razed for that goal.

Final Thoughts?

Your call.

Yes to everyone I missed aside from Burrow who would likely do better as a Hate Sink as well as the priest above, in the off chance rape doesn't stand out enough. Letting Lighty speak on that. That Little Match Girl sounds like someone really hated that story and wrote her accordingly. Unlike like those writers of MLP darkfics though I can actually confirm this isn't just For the Evulz. The Disney adaptation of that story is pretty damn sad conversly and makes the LMG a Woobie. Kind of like how Once Upon a Time turns every fairy tale literature hero into a monster. Peter Pan comes to mind.

Edited by Klavice on Jun 16th 2019 at 2:47:01 AM

Saxby's good for the most part.

Could we change the first part from this:

, even worse than their leader Ghorm.

to this:

with his evil exceeding even his cabal leader, Ghorm.

Also pothole Asuras as Emotion Eater for me.

to Rabier. Child abuse/torture seems unique in the setting.

I'll let Lighty speak, but isn't this the one where Karmic Rape's a thing?

Yeah, but it's hardly the norm. It's done by one villain (King of Faubley) and despite Naofumi hating the victim of it (Malty) even he's disgusted.

to the Bard, the Lieutenant, the Little Match Girl and Rabier. to Burrows.

I'd kinda like to hear a second opinion on this guy before I comfortably vote yes.

Okay, this one I've been looking forward to. Been a bit over two weeks since the last album, so...

What's the setting?

Gloryhammer is a Scottish metal band best known for their Affectionate Parody of the ultra-edgy power metal ballads, the Gloryhammer Trilogy of concept albums. Fueled by Crazy Awesome Scottish testosterone, the epic saga tells the story of the Kingdom of Dundee across generations, the legendary warrior Angus McFife, the barbarian of Unst and King of California, the Hootsman, and the legendary Knights of Crail as they fight to save the universe from the evil forces of the Dark Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty, Zargothrax.

Who is Zargothrax? What has he done?

The wicked, immortal sorcerer who rules over an army of darkness, Zargothrax opens up the first album, Tales from the Kingdom of Fife, by invading the Kingdom of Dundee with an army of corrupted unicorns. Zargothrax rains fireballs on the land, killing everyone in the kingdom of Dundee and leaving it in waste, as he rapes and kidnaps the pure-hearted princess of the land and declares himself emperor of the kingdom. Of course, Angus and the barbarian of Unst fight against Zargothrax's evil reign, gathering three magical artifacts, including the Gloryhammer, using it to defeat Zargothrax and trap him for an entire millennium in a prison of ice.

You can't keep an evil sorcerer down. Zargothrax rises from his prison a thousand years in the future in the second album, Space 1992: Rise of the Chaos Wizards, when Dundee is now an intergalactic empire ruled over by Angus McFife the 13th. Zargothrax has his Chaos Wizards slaughter the Knights of Cail keeping him prisoner, and rises up, throwing the galaxy into a brutal war as he strives for his new goal: release Kor-Virliath, Elder God of the 18th Hell Dimension, to annihilate all life in the universe. Zargothrax provides nice view into his motivations with "Universe On Fire"—"I want to set the universe on fire / feel it burn tonight / Set the universe on fire / there's no end in sight". The Hootsman is forced to destroy Earth to prevent Zargothrax from wiping out all life in the universe after so many die in the subsequent war, and the Hootsman detonates the nuclear core that keeps him alive to stop Kor-Virliath... angered, Zargothrax flees into an alternate universe, pursued by Angus.

The final album, Legends from Beyond the Galactic Terrorvortex, has Zargothrax take over the entire alternate reality he fled to, using his Knife of Evil to corrupt the noble warrior Proletius and his Knights of Cail. Ruling over as a wicked emperor, Zargothrax has his demonic armies slaughter peasants by masses, having them eaten, scourged and massacred by his forces as he prepares to initiate a ritual to make himself an absolute god. With the Gloryhammer useless in this dimension, Angus turns to the service of the Hootsman... who didn't die, but instead ascended into becoming a god. A wicked awesome final battle ensues with Angus, the Hootsman and the Hootsforce, and Zargothrax's armies of Dreadlords and darkness wage battle, eventually ending with Zargothrax struck down once and for all and turning to dust. Angus is stabbed by his Knife of Evil in the process, and tosses himself into a volcano before he can be corrupted in Zargothrax's last move. With that, the evil sorcerer is finally dead...

...well, there is a Morse code message at the end of the final album, sending out a message to activate one of Zargothrax's dormant clones...

Any mitigating factors?

Nada. Zargothrax's one line of "liberating the multiverse from slavery and terror" falls apart on so many levels when he demonstrates vividly he's a Card-Carrying Villain to end them all, obsessed with power and bringing fear and pain to everything he sees. Even in his speaking parts, Zargothrax is commanding peasants to be slaughtered en masse and trying to destroy all life.

It is worth noting the setting, parody as it is, is playing itself as The Comically Serious. It's tongue firmly in cheek, of course, but everything in-universe is played seriously enough to warrant his place on the trope. It's kinda like Breakfast of the Gods, tone-wise, if I had to compare.

Conclusion?

Oh my God, keep him. I love these albums.

Thoughts?

@ACW, is there are reason you listed Shere Khan and Dr. Who's entries twice?

Dear god yes on Zargothrax.

And yes to Idol

Yes to Zargothrax. That album really does sound awesome.

Zargothrax and idol.

Edited by miraculous on Jun 16th 2019 at 2:47:51 AM

to Zargothrax and Idol

"army of corrupted unicorns"... That's a yes.

Idol and Zarg.

I'll give a yes to Idol then. I assume Medea is that goddess?

XO: Shere's going to both Disney (other) AND Lit; Who is going to both Godzilla and the main film page.

Mir: I think I got your stuff.