To-do list:
- The trope is now In-Universe Examples Only, so remove any out-of-universe examples. Progress is being tracked using the Sandbox.Dream Team Cleaning sandbox.
Dream Team is attracting a lot of People Sit on Chairs examples that basically boil down to "2+ people worked together this one time", which was the same type of issues that did in Relationship Voice Actor. My wick check for it shows that around half of the examples fall into this category (and a large portion of them come from the Music/ namespace, which covers around 40% of the trope's wicks), while only 4 have the importance be brought up in-universe.
Solution: Disambiguate, much like Relationship Voice Actor. It could potentially be made in-universe only, but there doesn't seem to be enough examples for that, plus the name invites gushing.
Wick check:
- ArmorPiercingQuestion.Anime And Manga: The Big Bad of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig, Kazundo Ghoda, delivers one to all of Section 9 after he blatantly uses them to transport a case of stolen plutonium out of a dangerous area: he intentionally opens the case to reveal it was empty, and informs that the real case of plutonium was safely recovered by the military. Batou protests how the jerk just used Section 9 as a decoy, leading to this as his response, making them realize even Section 9 could easily be wiped out in a fight if the enemy has numbers on their side.
Batou: Just who do you think we are, pal?
Ghoda: The real question is who do you think YOU are? An elite squad of the hand-picked chosen few? This is technically a pothole, but it explains the trope - Characters.The Crown 2016 Friends And Acquaintances Of The Royal Family: Those gathered by Fruity to bolster the Duke’s case for his return to royal service are some of the most influential members of British upper-class society, including politician Sir Walter Monckton, society photographer and artist Cecil Beaton, Lord “Bobbety” Salisbury, Lord Beaverbrook (owner of the Daily Express), Selwyn Lloyd (Foreign Secretary from 1955 until 1960) and author Vita Sackville-West. In the end, their efforts are All for Nothing, as the Marburg Files and David’s Nazi connections rear their ugly head and the Queen, utterly appalled at the revelations about her uncle's past, firmly blocks any chance of his return to royal service.
- Characters.Yowamushi Pedal: Fukutomi describes Hakone as "a team of aces". Technically correct if a bit on the short side
- ComicBook.Necronauts: Arthur Conan Doyle, H. P. Lovecraft, Charles Fort and Harry Houdini team up. Knowing that these are real people is enough
- Literature.Strange The Dreamer: The outsiders that the Tizerkane bring into Weep all have special expertise that make them experts in their fields. Among the assembled are a mathematician, a natural scientist, a renown architect, a couple who invented a flying machine, twin brother geologists, and a girl who is really good at climbing.
- Characters.Lupin III: The best thief, most deadly assassin, fastest gunslinger, and most beautiful trickster team up to do crime.
- Characters.Two As One Princesses: The synergy between Ain and Ciel is uncanny. With Ain's [Song Princess] who can only be heard by Ciel who has [Dance Princess] they boost each other's strength to ridiculous proportions.
- AwesomeMusic.Lupin III Part II: American musician Tommy Snyder collaborated with Yuji Ohno notably on two songs and the results are pretty magical.
- Creator.Bradley Cooper: With Lady Gaga prior to the release of A Star is Born.
- Laconic.The Runaway Guys: ProtonJon, Chuggaaconroy, and NintendoCapriSun team up to create Let's Plays and mess with each other.
- Music.Bad Bunny:
- Music.Calvin Harris: Starting with 18 Months, Calvin's begun pairing himself with many different artists that complement his production, most notably:
- Calvin and Ellie Goulding on "I Need Your Love" and "Outside".
- Calvin and John Newman on "Blame".
- Calvin, Alesso, and Hurts on "Under Control".
- Calvin and Florence Welch on "Sweet Nothing".
- Calvin and Dizzee Rascal on "Dance Wiv Me" (with Chrome), "Here 2 China" (with Dillon Francis), and "Hype".
- Calvin and Ayah Marar on "Thinking About You".
- Calvin, Frank Ocean, and Migos on "Slide".
- Calvin, Snoop Dogg, John Legend, and Takeoff on "Holiday".
- Calvin and Nicki Minaj on "Skrt on Me".
- Calvin, Young Thug, Pharrell Williams, and Ariana Grande on "Heatstroke".
- Calvin, Katy Perry, Pharrell Williams, and Big Sean on "Feels".
- Calvin, Schoolboy Q, PARTYNEXTDOOR, and D.R.A.M on "Cash Out".
- Calvin, Travis Scott, and A-Trak on "Prayers Up".
- Calvin and Dua Lipa on "One Kiss".
- Calvin, Dua Lipa and Young Thug on "Potion".
- Music.Ed Sheeran:
- He had a duet with Beyoncé on "Perfect".
- He had teamed up with Eminem and 50 Cent on "Remember The Name".
- His No. 6 Collaborations Project album contains a load of artists, ranging from Justin Bieber to Bruno Mars to even Skrillex.
- Music.Elvis Costello:
- He had a sporadic songwriting partnership with Paul McCartney, leading to several McCartney/Costello compositions scattered over both artists' albums in the late 80s and early 90s. One of their joint compositions, "Veronica", became one of the biggest hits of Costello's career. (McCartney plays bass on the song as well.) Costello joked that their collaboration reversed the dynamics one would expect, with Paul being the one who tried to write entire songs in one chord and similar weirdness, and Elvis being the one who was coming up with more melodic material.
- He recorded an album with famed Rap/R&B band The Roots in 2013.
- Music.Gary Numan:
- He and Fear Factory did a cover of "Cars" together, appearing in their album Obsolete as a bonus track.
- Any time he and Trent Reznor get together live blows the roof off the venue. That and the very obscure hints that they may collaborate on a future album together.
- Music.George Michael: Did duets with Aretha Franklin, Whitney Houston, Ray Charles, Tony Bennett, Elton John, Mary J. Blige, Paul McCartney, Mutya Buena, Jody Watley, and performed live duets with Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson, Luciano Pavarotti, Beyoncé, and Queen.
- Music.Jason Mraz:
- Teamed up with Colbie Caillat, for the song "Lucky."
- Provided the voice of Dr. Pomatter for Sara Bareilles's What's Inside: Songs from Waitress. The two later starred opposite each other on Broadway.
- Music.Kelela:
- She's collaborated with a pretty impressive list of stars over the years, including Danny Brown, Solange, Gorillaz, and Arca.
- Epitomized with the Remix Album of Take Me Apart, which features remixes from a variety of renowned electronic producers as well as the posse-cut "LMK" remix with CupcakKe, Junglepussy, Princess Nokia, and Ms Boogie.
- Music.Lorde:
- Her, Stromae, Pusha T and Q-Tip on "Meltdown" from the Mockingjay soundtrack.
- Also with Son Lux on "Easy (Switch Screens)".
- Also with Khalid, SZA and Post Malone on the remix of "Homemade Dynamite".
- Music.Mary J Blige:
- Collaborated with Lauryn Hill to sing "I Used to Love Him", from Hill's debut album The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
- Her and Lil' Kim on "I Can Love You"
- Music.Matmos: They collaborated with Björk on her albums Vespertine and Medúlla. They also released a split EP with Post-Rock/chamber music band Rachel’s.
- Music.Matthew Sweet:
- Sweet seems to have a talent for getting famous musicians to play on his albums — aside from the Altered Beast cast, Van Dyke Parks guests on Living Things, and In Reverse also included famous session musicians Jim Keltner on drums and Carol Kaye on bass).
- Also applies on the art side as well. Roger Dean, famous for his album covers for Yes, did the lettering on Blue Sky on Mars, and Japanese artist Yoshitomo Nara did the illustrations for Kimi Ga Suki.
- Music.Ofra Haza: Haza has collaborated with several artists over the course of her career:
- Her with The Sisters of Mercy in the single "Temple of Love" in 1992.
- Her with Iggy Pop for her song "Daw Da Hirya", as well as for the song "Give Peace a Chance" in 1991.
- Her with Hans Zimmer for The Prince of Egypt.
- Her with composer Jonathan Elias for the contemporary symphony album Prayer Cycle, which also featured vocalists like Alanis Morissette, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, and Salif Keita, among others, in 1999.
- Her with Paula Abdul for the song "My Love is for Real" in 1995.
- Music.Playboi Carti: Carti and Lil Uzi Vert on "Lookin", "wokeuplikethis", and "Shoota".
- Music.Sunn O: They're very good at picking collaborators. Examples include Merzbow, Leviathan, Nurse with Wound, Boris, Scott Walker, Ulver, and Steve Albini, and that's just the start of it.
- Music.The All American Rejects: "The Future Has Arrived," for the Meet the Robinsons soundtrack, was co-written by Danny Elfman, adapted from a piece of his score for the film.
- Music.Venetian Snares:
- With Daniel Lanois. The two of them even toured for a time, and played live months prior to their album.
- With Hecate, as Nymphomatriarch.
- With Autechre, as AESVS, for a compilation appearance.
- With John Frusciante and SKM-ETR, as Speed Dealer Moms.
- UsefulNotes.Nikola Tesla: The band 8in8 (Ben Folds, Amanda Palmer, Damian Kulash, and Neil Gaiman) opened their album Nighty Night with a pun-laden love song to a time-traveling Tesla. [1]
- Wrestling.Rey Mysterio Jr:
- Himself, Myzteziz and El Patrón Alberto were called such in Triple A.
- With Dragon Azteca Jr. and Prince Puma in Lucha Underground.
- Awesome, Dear Boy: When the American Olympic Selection Committee was putting together the original Dream Team in 1992, some top players were initially reluctant to sign on for various reasons. Michael Jordan would rather have been playing golf, and Larry Bird's health issues were forcing him to the brink of retirement. It was only after some others, particularly Magic Johnson, enthusiastically answered the call that the unique historical potential of the team became apparent. By the time the roster was set it was obvious this would be a team like no other, and in the years since many of the players, including even Jordan, have stated that it was the most important and memorable experience of their careers.
- Plot Tailored to the Party: The "Demon Seed" arc of The Dragon Doctors is the first one that makes full use of the abilities of all four magical doctors at once. The patient is a man with a sentient parasite slowly devouring him from within, can see everything he sees, and will take over his body and attack if they alarm him. First Kili the shaman/therapist puts the patient into a hypnotic mind-meld trance, then his body is magically petrified by the wizard to trap the parasite and keep him stable, then the Magitek diagnostician and surgeon drill it out of his body one piece at a time.
- Variant Power Copying: In Kuroko's Basketball, while Kise can normally just rely on standard Power Copying when replicating ordinary techniques, he often has to resort to this trope when copying the techniques of the Generation of Miracles. For example, while he doesn't have the Emperor Eye, he can replicate its effects closely enough with the observational skills and reflexes he uses to copy opponents in the first place.
- Awesome.John Rain: The Killer Collective: Not only does the book itself get a CMOA for assembling the Dream Team of assassins and operatives covered throughout the series, but Larison also gets one when first ambushed at Colonel Horton's house. While Hort and Rain retreat to gather more weapons, Larison sprints into the forest and hunts down a group of operatives like a hellhound.
- Creator.Johnny Hallyday: The last of his concerts happened on July 5, 2017 during the tour of "Les Vieilles Canailles", a sort of Dream Team of legends of 1960s French rock & roll with the addition of his friends Eddy Mitchell and Jacques Dutronc. They were gathered for the first time in 2014.
- Music.All Things Must Pass: Improv: Harrison gave the backing musicians free reign to change arrangements on their own - a fine idea given how much talent he was surrounded with. The third record consists of nothing but short improvised jams.
- Quotes.Boisterous Bruiser: The trope is namechecked, but it says nothing about it
- Recap.The A Team S 2 E 21 Deadly Manuevers: Carnival of Killers: A syndicate of crime lords pay Major Douglas Kyle to assemble a Dream Team of mercenaries to hunt down the A-Team.
- ShoutOut.Neptunia: When all of the Goddesses band together to fight against Tari, Purple Heart says that they've assembled a real dream cast.
- TheAce.Literature: Ser Arthur Dayne, of King Aerys II's now legendary Kingsguard, is the one Knight held in the same breath as The Dragonknight. Referred to as the finest swordsmen and fighter ever seen by several worthy characters, mainly Jaime Lannister and Ned Stark. Catelyn Stark also called him "the deadliest of Aerys's seven Kingsguard," which is saying something. One does not simply earn the moniker "Sword of the Morning," by being a hack.
- Trivia.The Tree Of Life: Development Hell: Terrence Malick began work on a project enigmatically entitled Q before making The Thin Red Line, only for it to come to a halt. Apparently, Malick used Q as a basis for The Tree of Life, which was finally officially announced in 2005, only to have casting issues, gathering up a Dream Team of visual effects artists to achieve his vision, and then work very, very slowly to make everything as good as possible. In short, he's a perfectionist.
- WebAnimation.Klay World: Avengers Assemble: The 2003 videos were essentially a build-up toward the "Klay World" 6-part miniseries, which involved making a Dream Team out of previously introduced characters: Dr. Bob, Chris, Henry, Hulky, Jacob, Leon's Dog, Michael, Newspaper Monster, Red Shirt Guy, The Robot, The Tree Hand Thing, and the Yellow Seed.
- Characters.Maple Story One: Despite having little in common, they form a team in the 2016 MapleStory Detectives event. Yes team no dream
- Characters.TNOUSA: To save the URI and Hart's legacy by extension, Chep rallies as many supporters as he can to counter the conservatives' attempts to kill it, which includes many of the supporting characters that showed up in Hart's campaign, from progressive voices such as Jane Jacobs, Walter Reuthers and Bayard Rustin to experienced establishment figures such as Henry Kissinger and Birch Bayh. But what makes them an example of this trope?
- Film.The Blues Brothers: The Blues Brothers band in-universe. Blatant ZCE
- Manga.Kurokos Basketball: Neither explains why they're a dream team
- The Generation of Miracles, during their middle school years. Becomes a Deconstructed Trope, as being on a team that powerful turned most of the members into jerkasses when playing basketball, prompting Kuroko to leave the team, and is also what caused the team to fall apart. This is averted in the present day, as though they're collectively still through of as this, they are no longer a 'team' since they all go to different schools.
- In the sequel manga Kuroko's Basketball: Extra Game, the Generation of Miracles, Kuroko, and Kagami all form a street-ball team called Team Vorpal Swords to take on Team Jabberwock, a visiting street-ball team from America that utterly defeated the Generation of Miracle's seniors and disrespected Japanese basketball.
- Wrestling.Mick Foley: Him and Terry Funk. Blatant ZCE
- All-Star Cast: Compare Massive Multiplayer Crossover, Celebrity Voice Actor, and Dream Team. See also
- Creator.Elle Mac Pherson: She, Kathy Ireland and Rachel Hunter were billed this way on the cover of the 1994 Swimsuit Issue. Lampshaded, posible creator troping
- Music.Negativland: Played straight and parodied on Escape From Noise; the album features many prominent, highly respected local names in music and counterculture alike (including Mark Mothersbaugh and members of The Grateful Dead), a few of whose contributions are absolutely minor, or have nothing to do with their talents (e.g. Jello Biafra flushing a toiletnote , a member of Big City Orchestra running a leafblower, a random vocal sound from Church of the Subgenius Reverend Ivan Stang). A parody of the concept
- WebOriginal.Minecraft Championship: The aptly-named Dream Team (Dream, George, and Sapnap). All three competitors are very skilled (with Dream and Sapnap consistently ranking in the top ten, and often in the top five), and have very good communication and overall teamwork. They've all been put on the same team for three competitions—7, 11, and All-Stars—and won two out of three times (11 and All-Stars). It is lampshaded, at least
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- 5/50 had the trope be pointed out in-universe
- 2/50 are subjective
- 22/50 were about real-life creators working together, which is not a trope
- 12/50 were potholes
- 5/50 were zero context examples
- 4/50 are miscellaneous
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 8th 2023 at 2:25:59 PM
Paging ~FernandoLemon and ~Dghcrh as requested. Anyway, I agree with disambiguating for the reasons stated, and I'm against making this IUEO if there aren't enough wicks for that.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 2nd 2023 at 10:26:43 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.So the reason why I asked for Dghcrh to be pinged as well is because he argues that there might be enough in-universe examples to salvage it. See Sandbox.Dream Team In Universe Examples.
I'd like to apologize for all this.I'll wait to see what they say, but actually, I think I will vote in favor of making this IUEO instead of scrapping it, because it seems like there's more potential behind this than Relationship Voice Actor and the Hey It's That X series, and it's just bogged down by bad out-of-universe examples. If it lacks wicks after that, we can always do an example drive on TLP.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Yeah reading the description I'm surprised it even got that many out of universe wicks since it's not written as a trivia trope in the slightest. While I think there are several examples in the wick check Dghcrh did that are ZCE/not examples of the trope, I think the concept is sound and there are at least 10 to keep the trope alive.
In-universe only.
Edited by amathieu13 on Apr 2nd 2023 at 11:55:54 AM
I like making this IUEO.
Speaking of, we'll have to rewrite the description if we make it IUEO, don't we?
I'd like to apologize for all this.Other than adding "In-Universe Examples Only", I don't see what else would need to be rewritten.
I'm late to this because our timestamps don't match. I still agree with making this IUEO.
I'm mainly a fan of underrated media.IUEO.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportHooked a crowner for whether to make this IUEO.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I was wondering if Dream Team could be retooled into being YMMV. I tend to see it used to describe collaborations between two or more people that are very talented and/or popular, particularly where music is involved. Since whether creators are liked or not seems subjective, I feel like it could fall under YMMV, or at least the general concept could.
Edited by MatthewWayne on Apr 5th 2023 at 10:17:31 AM
Trust no one.Maybe Sugar Wiki, since the concept is inherently gushy, but even then I feel like there's not enough example context to justify the split.
I'd like to apologize for all this.We have Supergroup and AllStarCast. Crossover also exists, but scope might be geared more towards in-universe characters than creator collaboration.
Calling thread in favor of "Make In-Universe Examples Only"
Macron's notesIt's now in the IUEO index. I'll start a sandbox that we can use to record which namespaces are finished.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportStuff where real collaborators are branded a dream team (as in the current image, or maybe those single-charity-record supergroups like Band Aid) still fall under IUEO, or no?
Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 8th 2023 at 1:55:38 PM
Also, what do we do with examples that feel subjective but are about fictional characters, like the ones I put in my wick check?
By the way, I said it in the OP but I'll repeat: the most problematic section is Music/, almost all the examples there can be deleted.
Edited by FernandoLemon on Apr 8th 2023 at 4:02:21 PM
I'd like to apologize for all this.If they're branding themselves as such, we could count them as in-universe.
As for being branded as a dream team, IUEO tropes do allow RL examples unless if declared otherwise, so in a sense, maybe?
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportDown to 471, will continue pecking at Music/ wicks later.
I've updated Laconic.Dream Team, is it good?
I'd like to apologize for all this.Sub-400 now.
I only noticed this now, but how is the new definition different from The Team?
I'd like to apologize for all this.
- The Team is a very broad trope that covers all groups set up to complete a task on which each member has an assigned role/skillset to aid that task.
- Dream Team is a subtrope where the members of The Team are explicitly the very best of the best. There are (in theory) no weak links, everyone is The Ace in their specialty, etc.
The Team does have some of its own issues that the Five-Man Band thread has discussed, but those are the key differences.
Crown Description:
Dream Team is attracting a lot of People Sit On Chairs examples that basically boil down to "2+ people worked together this one time", which was the same type of issues that did in Relationship Voice Actor. However, it has been suggested that in-universe examples have sufficient meaning, so making the trope In Universe Examples Only has been suggested. What should be done with Dream Team?
To-do list:
Dream Team is attracting a lot of People Sit on Chairs examples that basically boil down to "2+ people worked together this one time", which was the same type of issues that did in Relationship Voice Actor. My wick check for it shows that around half of the examples fall into this category (and a large portion of them come from the Music/ namespace, which covers around 40% of the trope's wicks), while only 4 have the importance be brought up in-universe.
Solution: Disambiguate, much like Relationship Voice Actor. It could potentially be made in-universe only, but there doesn't seem to be enough examples for that, plus the name invites gushing.
Wick check:
Ghoda: The real question is who do you think YOU are? An elite squad of the hand-picked chosen few? This is technically a pothole, but it explains the trope
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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 8th 2023 at 2:25:59 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.