Follow TV Tropes

Following

Trope Pantheons Discussion

Go To

Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

HotmanX32 Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#115601: May 13th 2018 at 8:37:59 AM

[up]x2 And next month, they celebrate fantastic fathers like Gendo, Heihachi (and by extension Kazuya), Geese, Relius, Zeus, Darkseid, Wesker, and Norman Osborn.

[down] At the very least, we can move Anji as a herald of Baiken.

edited 13th May '18 9:14:21 AM by HotmanX32

Trope Pantheon Story site
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#115602: May 13th 2018 at 9:00:33 AM

Found another joint profile in Anji Mito and Kitana

From the start i can say that Kitana is much more well known for the trope and also has more content in her profile. I don't know about Anji but i would personally just remove him from the profile and keep Kitana. Doesn't help that Kitana morally wise is no longer good.

We should start unspoiling the MKX stuff. It's been three years now.

Uni cat
ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
.....
#115603: May 13th 2018 at 9:29:28 AM

Thanks to reminding me about that one plot point where the MK Revenants are taken from the old timeline. We did that to Nightwolf, I think. Shall we still do it to the rest?

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#115604: May 13th 2018 at 9:59:11 AM

[up]@king: actually, given the size I have decided to establish for the Patapons (in PSASBR, they interfere in one of the fights and harass God Of War!Hades, eventually taking him down), the Pikmin would still be much smaller than them and thus would be beneath notice.

@Whirl: At least Disney!Zeus is okay.

edited 13th May '18 10:00:01 AM by nightelf37

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#115605: May 13th 2018 at 10:30:49 AM

If i were to show a tuned-up profile for Kitana, could it be done here? Without Anji she is a brand new entry.

Uni cat
HotmanX32 Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#115606: May 13th 2018 at 10:53:20 AM

[up] I'd say go ahead. [tup]

edited 13th May '18 10:53:33 AM by HotmanX32

Trope Pantheon Story site
AerialQueen Since: Nov, 2017
#115607: May 13th 2018 at 1:20:44 PM

@Setsuna [tup]

Also, Happy Mother's Day from Brazil!

Strike Laser Claw!!
CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon
#115608: May 13th 2018 at 1:46:11 PM

@ Catalyst: You do understand that doing the same thing over and over againisnt going to get you anywhere right? I gave my thoughts about that a while ago.

Happy Mother's Day, guys!

Before I post Herr Frederick in the next page, tell me what you think about this suggestion? At least, assuming it doesn't get looked over as a page bottomer.

Destroyman, God of Unusual Weapon Mounting

edited 13th May '18 1:47:50 PM by CrownlessMimic

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#115609: May 13th 2018 at 1:49:55 PM

Some people should really look into Einstein's definition of insanity. Anyone who keeps posting the same thing will get ignored by me.

[up] No strong opinion about him

Uni cat
kingvideogames Every Kel Profile is Canon from SOMEWHERE down in Fullertown; don’t know where.. Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Every Kel Profile is Canon
#115610: May 13th 2018 at 2:40:04 PM

@Destroyman, [tup] Always up to see more No More Heroes Characters Ascending!

So, looks like there's some Indie crossover events happening, with the former having both Shovel Knight and Isaac and the latter having Isaac and Astro Boy. Definitely, something to look after, at least in my opinion.

On the topic of Isaac actually, updating his profile to include the final canonical ending.

[down] Yeah, shame Isaac isn't though.

Oh, and [tup]

edited 13th May '18 3:47:51 PM by kingvideogames

Time to rise and shine. Good morning!
CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon
#115611: May 13th 2018 at 3:03:54 PM

[up][up] I feel like this the equivalent of getting worked up over "god who/that" for me.

[up] What a time to be alive.

[tup]s: 2 (faso, Mizerous)

Herr Federick von Twirlenkiller, God of Fatal Ends by Jet Turbines

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/herr_frederick_von_twirlenkiller_5.jpg
  • Potential House: Manners of Death
  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: His helmet and turbines
  • Theme Song: Bang
  • Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
  • Portfolio: Putting on the Reich, Jet Turbine Arms, Killed by his own weapons through Literal Disarming, Badass Longcoat, Creating tornadoes and riding them, Can still do this while amputated
  • Domains: Wind, Cyborgs, Death
  • On Good Terms With: The House of Slaughter, Akande Ogundimu/Doomfist
  • Rivals: Wamuu, Rashid, Storm Eagle
  • Enemies: Jack Cayman, Blacker Baron, Big Bull, Nikolai Dmitri Bulygin, Big Band, members of Overwatch
  • Avoided by: Syndrome
  • Ranked 98th in Deathwatch, Frederick was formerly a captain of a ship but was nearly killed and turned into a cyborg by Deathwatch contestants. He made quite the name for himself as a contestant, having fought against past champion Kreese Kreely where he collapsed one of his lungs. Then he met Jack Cayman, and you can guess how the good cyborg ended up in the Pantheon. Turns out Jack's chainsaw is pretty sharp, and he put it to good use in disarming him. There's also the fact that Jack was the former Grand Champion of Deathwatch before becoming a Chaser, which is another good reason as to why he lost. Still, Frederick wants a rematch one day.
    • Regarding the other deities from his world (well, kind of) he doesn't have much to say about them. About the only thing can be said is his annoyance that Jack's allies are getting in the way of his rematch. They show up at the right time to fend him off (though he admits there's something different about the Baron this time around). Nikolai's different case, however. To the BPS Officer, Frederick is just another lawless psycho in the world and has instigated conflict with him. Frederick meanwhile enjoys trashing lots of the Mecha Mooks thrown at him.
  • As his name suggests, his added turbines allow him to generate twisters whether to just enhance his punches or create ones big enough to throw cars and people like ragdolls. Supposedly, in one match of Deathwatch in New Orleans had him sink the entire city. He's also perfectly capable of riding them, and can still keep this up even with one arm. Obviously, he can't do it with no arms. Some point out his choice of weapons could be referencing to a superweapon the Nazis had, what with his choice of apparel.
    • Because of his weapons, he often gets mentioned as a warning when it comes to capes. By which we mean, he's one of the quickest ways to prove why it's such a bad accessory to have. Lest you want your fate mirror Syndrome's, no capes!
      • Speaking of Syndrome, he avoids the cyborg whenever he can, considering he's a walking reminder of his gruesome death. At least Syndrome's was covered up by an explosion. That said, it hasn't stopped him (and many other gods for that matter) from criticizing the practicality of his weapons. Sure, it's awesome, even without the wind aiding him that's still tons of metal colliding with anyone unluckily enough to be in the way, but it can be argued that it poses just as much danger to the wielder as it does to the victims. Twirlenkiller only responded that Death Watch prided itself on its contestants causing over-the-top kills, weapons like his are par for the course. If anyone tries to bring it up again, he'll personally throw them into a giant jet engine.
  • He's quite liked by those in the House of Slaughter due to his participation in Deathwatch, even if it was against his will. Sometimes, he competes with other members in short games of Blood Sport not that far off from the ones he competed in. The place gets especially bloody when members of the Crimson Court get very riled up in the House when stalking Skarlet or Jedah Dohma. At least this time he's not in the receiving end of a Turbine Blender during the games.
  • He has taken a lot of opportunities to further his power, such as frequent trips to the House of Wind and Air. Couple of those trips had him encounter the Pillar Man Wamuu and Rashid of the Turbulent Wind where he had the chance to spar with them. Then Wamuu introduced him to Storm Eagle when he saw the former Death Watch contestant make another trip to the House of Combat. Herr Frederick has his respect for those three after seeing them in action and has plans on making use of what he has learned.
    • Such fruits of the training was showcased when his fight between both Blacker Baron, Baron's Herald Mathilda and Nikolai went a little overboard, causing mayhem within the House they fought. When nearby denizens tried to break up the fighting, they ended up getting sucked in the twisters or hit by the spinning debris. Baron and Mathilda ended up getting helped out by Big Band who was nearby (much to the pimp's protests that "this titty twister motherfucker's his fight"). Managing to close in on the cyborg, getting past the whirlwinds he kept throwing out, were they able to ultimately wear down Frederick while Nikolai bolted after taking some damage himself.
      • After the incident, those who managed to watch the fight (without getting hurt badly in the crossfire) commented on how Big Band and Herr Frederick are Not So Different. To elaborate: Both are hulking, heavily armed cybernetic individuals who became this way after being seriously mangled (by corrupt officers and by psychotic contestants respectively). They also have a surprising amount of mobility despite their bulk, and their fists pack quite a wallop.
    • One of Frederick's trips gave him the opportunity to meet with and fight against Akande Ogundimu, more commonly known as Doomfist. Being able to fight once again despite his cybernetics, which combined with his gauntlet proved useful in bridging the gap between the two. After the fight, Doomfist offered the Deathwatch contestant to join him. Frederick's thinking about it, much to the worry of every Overwatch agent here. Talon is bad enough. Talon with a tempest creating cyborg is even worse.
  • Apparently, he is bass guitarist in a band called the Windbreakers. How he even picks up and plays the damn thing is a mystery, but it can happen. He demonstrated this in the House of Music after people kept asking if he really could play. Those who managed to listen to him play agreed he's actually pretty good.
  • "Your life ends here."

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#115612: May 13th 2018 at 3:16:32 PM

Isaac moved from kid tears to Manly Tears. He must have taken some classes from Kenshiro.

Reminds me, there is an abandoned profile for Quote from Cave Story.

Uni cat
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#115613: May 13th 2018 at 3:58:36 PM

@ Catalyst: I agree, please don't repost the same thing and message. I would advise looking through the houses Barbatos might be involved in for allies and enemies

Thanks to all the votes, the Nuclear Power Plant is going up today

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/800px_springfield_nuclear_power_plant.png
Overhead view of the Plant
Springfield Nuclear Power Plant, Unholy Seat of Blatantly Polluting Companies
  • Votes: 3(nightelf37, Mizerous, Crossover Enthusiast)
  • Date of ascension: Now
  • House: Establishments
  • Description: A two-unit pressurized water reactor nuclear power plant
  • Symbol: Blinky the Three-Eyed Fish. Alternatively, a green inanimate carbon rod
  • Alignment: Somewhere between Stupid Evil and Chaotic Stupid
  • Portfolio: Toxic, Inc., No OSHA Compliance, Creates Mutants With Its Toxic Waste, Green Radioactive Glow, Artistic License – Nuclear Physics, I Love Nuclear Power
  • Domains: Pollution, Nuclear Power, Greediness, Incompetence, Mutation
  • Located in: Springfield
  • CEO: Charles Montgomery Burns
  • Employees include: Homer J Simpson, Waylon Smithers Jr
  • Springfield's main power source is its Nuclear Power Plant. Owned by Charles Montgomery Burns(technically used to be owned by a canary), the power plant is one of the main reasons why Springfield is polluted. Its owner's contempt for nature, the ineptitude of its employees, and having No OSHA Compliance makes it an environmental nightmare.
  • Produces a lot of nuclear waste, usually giant barrels of glowing green stuff. When it's not leaking out of tubes or being inconspicuously dumped into trees or LEGO Land, it's being pumped into the water supply. Semi-mascot Blinky the Three Eyed Fish is a result. During his run for governor, Mr Burns claimed it was a product of evolution and safe to eat. It wasn't. Even more mutated fish have been heard of. The plant is kept as far away from the House of Water And Ice as possible.
  • The House of Nature despises the plant for how toxic it is, particularly its owner. Fittingly, the only nature sub-house even the employees are permitted is Toxicity, because it's not like it can get even more toxic. Then Homer managed to cause a nuclear incident toxic to the residents. In a simulation without any nuclear material...again. Even the House of Toxicity was disturbed that he of all people was safety inspector.
  • One of the most disturbing things about the plant's entry to the pantheon is that the Lich was grinning like even more of a maniac-he is the embodiment of nuclear war and waste, after all. He immediately got in and started absorbing the barrels of nuclear waste, the toxins in the water and the plutonium rods. How the plant didn't meltdown, let alone its employees survive remains a mystery even the Lich has no answer for.
  • Hexxus makes regular visits to the nuclear power plant as well, being good friends with Mr Burns. On a lighter note, Leela is unaffected by the toxic environment as she's already a mutant, the green glow reminding her of Old New York. Following the crossover between The Simpsons and Futurama, it's believed that the nuclear waste the plant produces somehow contributed to the mutant population a millennium later.
  • Been around since 1966, with safety regulations low for so long they'd go bankrupt trying to get it up to standards. Safety regulators often visit, and Mr Burns usually just tries to bribe them. If that doesn't work, he either puts the barest of effort in or bribe someone who can get rid of the safety inspectors for him. The House of Profession warns any new deity not to even think of working at the plant. The only sane employees left/was fired (Marge), is Mr Burns' yes man(Smithers) or flat out died(Frank Grimes).

Catalyst375 Returning Browser Since: Jan, 2015
Returning Browser
#115614: May 13th 2018 at 4:02:46 PM

@Crownless Mimic it was buried 50 + pages back since the last time I was on here. I normally do it to keep track of profiles.

The World Forge, The Birthplace of Universes

  • Description: Home of the Tenth Metal and source of the DC Multiverse. Located within the Dark Multiverse ruled by Barbatos.
  • Symbol: A Forge in a celestial constellation
  • Alignment: Formerly Chaotic Evil, now True Neutral
  • Portfolio: Shadowland, The Power of Creation, Infinity +1 Element, Creation Myth, Ultimate Forge, Imagination-Based Superpower
  • Domains: Creation, Imagination, Emotion and Desires
  • The existence of the World Forge was revealed to the Pantheon in the midst of Barbatos' assault on the DC Multiverse when Dream of the Endless spoke of it to Superman and Batman. It is the source of the Tenth Metal, a metal of pure possibility and the element from which universes and matter in the DC Multiverse are created. It was once dark due to Barbatos' actions, but the Forge is now ignited once more.
    • Due to the demiurgic nature of the Tenth Metal found in the Forge, it is suspected that the Tenth Metal element bears some connection to the powers possessed by various Creator Gods, and so steps have been taken by the Main House to ensure that it is not readily accessed by any of the evil-aligned Gods in the Pantheon.
  • The Tenth Metal of the Forge, also known as the Element X used by New Gods, is an immensely powerful element, and the Metal can be used to sync with the trace amounts found in all matter in the DC Multiverse to accomplish miraculous feats. However, the energy of such a process was so overwhelming that [[spoiler: it shattered the Source Wall, revealing all the secrets and dangers from beyond (and opened up a hole into the Pantheon), and had side-effects resulting from the sublimated members of those who used the Tenth Metal. As a result, the Main House deemed the Forge off-limits, and the Tenth Metal to be put under maximum security.
  • The World Forge, and the Dark Multiverse within which it resides, is highly reactive to the thoughts and emotions of living beings, whether they be good or evil. As a result, potentially trillions of alternate worlds are able to be born from the World Forge. Formerly, it was the Forger's duty to hammer out stable worlds from people's hopes and fears and allow those worlds to join the Orrery, while Barbatos' duty was to destroy the twisted, unstable worlds. Now, Barbatos is in chains, and a new Forger has yet to be found to tend to the stable worlds.
    • Because access to the Dark Multiverse and the World Forge is restricted, it is unknown whether the Dark Multiverse contains worlds where the members of the GUAE have their desires made manifest, though the Pantheon as a whole shudder to think of the possibilities of all the twisted worlds in the Dark Multiverse, made from the desires of GUAG and GUAE alike, potentially rising up to assail the Pantheon proper.
  • The World Forge is native to the DC Cosmology, though Ugo has theorized that the World Forge and its Tenth Metal are just one manifestation of the "powers of creation", comparing Tenth Metal to the Rukh which is the foundation of all matter and life in his native universe.

edited 13th May '18 4:09:34 PM by Catalyst375

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#115615: May 13th 2018 at 4:07:10 PM

The Power of Creation better fits someone rather than a dominion

As the Springfield Nuclear Power plant has been established, a million environmentalists cry out in terror

First draft of Olivia

Olivia, Goddess of Jewelry

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sun_moon_olivia.png

Catalyst375 Returning Browser Since: Jan, 2015
Returning Browser
#115616: May 13th 2018 at 4:19:26 PM

[up] I considered Ultimate Forge, but I imagine that has already been taken.

AerialQueen Since: Nov, 2017
#115617: May 13th 2018 at 4:19:53 PM

My first group suggestion.

Guild of the Spiked Ones

A group of spiky haired heroes led by Shobu dedicated to eradicate some of the evil forces in the Pantheon.

The LeaderShobu Kirifuda
The LancerCloud Strife
The Smart GuyPhoenix Wright
The Big GuySpike
The ChickSora

Strike Laser Claw!!
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#115618: May 13th 2018 at 4:29:07 PM

[up]A very early install weirdness.

Power of Creation: I thought Shirou or EMIYA had this but it was other weapon creation tropes. Also, it's not a domain and should be given to a person. I would suggest a Actual God who created the world. But there's too many. So I suggest Momo from My Hero Academia who is able to create non organic material from her flesh.

edited 13th May '18 4:30:07 PM by WhirlRX

Catalyst375 Returning Browser Since: Jan, 2015
Returning Browser
#115619: May 13th 2018 at 4:39:57 PM

Barbatos, God of the Dark Multiverse, Former Dragon of the World Forge

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/barbatos_profile.PNG
The Master of Dark Matter
  • Rank: Overdeity (The Anthropomorphic Personification of Nightmares and Darkness)
  • Symbol: The Bat Symbol
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: All that isn't real, and all that embodies our fears and nightmare, The Usurper, "The True Father of Batman", Dragon Ascendant
  • Followers: All those who exist within and feed off the nightmares of others.
  • Domain: Dark Matter, Dark Energy, Nightmares, Fear
  • Significant Followers: The Dark Knights of the Multiverse, The Court of Owls (posthumously)
  • Allies: Melkor, The Chaos Gods,
  • Enemies: Dream of the Endless, Batman, Carter Hall, Shiera Hall, Wonder Woman
  • Beneath the Multiverse and the Pantheon, there rests an oceanic, subconscious realm comprised of "reactive matter" - a Dark Multiverse. Within this realm, worlds live and worlds die, worlds created from the fears and nightmares of all those who live. One being presided over this nightmarish realm - Barbatos, a dark horned-god whose presence is felt through other evil deities.
  • Barbatos' existence was initially unknown to the Pantheon, but his presence was revealed after, after he attempted to drag Earth down into the Dark Multiverse.
    • Dream of the Endless revealed Barbatos' true nature: the Dark Multiverse was originally home to the World Forge, the place where The Forger would hammer out worlds from the hopes and fears of living beings, creating new worlds from the "metal of possibility". Those worlds that were stable became part of the Orrery of Worlds; the twisted, unstable worlds were once destroyed by Barbatos to have their energies returned to the Forge, as he was the Forger's Great Dragon. However, he killed the Forger and allowed the Forge to darken.
  • Although now trapped at the bottom of the Dark Multiverse while the World Forge burns anew again, Barbatos' influence is still felt within the Pantheon, and he schemes to break his chains and enter the Dark Multiverse of the Pantheon to raise the denizens there up against the Pantheon, and to drag the Pantheon itself down into darkness.
  • As a byproduct of the conflict with Barbatos, the World Forge became accessible to the Pantheon, and the Tenth Metal of possibility that resides there is now being considered for use in constructing new structures in the Pantheon. However, the immense power of the Tenth Metal means any materials are kept under Maximum Security, and only allowed for use by a very select few deities after use by the Justice League inadvertently shattered the Source Wall.
  • The GUAD has shown a disturbing interest in Barbatos, because his final goal was to destroy all positive and negative matter worlds by shooting the Over-Monitor with the astral brain of the Anti-Monitor, and because his former purpose in the World Forge was to destroy all failed worlds, just as he sought to destroy the Multiverse and leave the Dark Multiverse remaining as the sole existence.
  • Barbatos' voice is anti-music that is capable of sinking worlds down into the Dark Multiverse. Melkor was drawn to this musical note, as he believes he and Barbatos can unite to overpower and undo the Music of the Ainur, and use the World Forge to bring to life the notes of Discord he had originally introduced into it.
  • " All roads lead back to darkness ".

NOTE: This next part is a big part of the reason why this profile is tentative, so I need to see if the next piece of info is accepted or not.

  • While it cannot be confirmed, some suspect that Barbatos' Dark Multiverse may, in fact, be the realm where terrible fiction and fan-fiction alike 'exist', the horror of their existence or perversion of real universes causing them to manifest there in a cycle of horrific creation and destruction. As such, he rules over every failed story and every failed character within those stories and all of them desire to usurp the original characters and the true stories.
    • One of the greater dangers of the Dark Multiverse is that it is also a place which villains could have their own desires fulfilled, as many villains sided with Barbatos for the promise of having their own worlds to rule.

M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#115620: May 13th 2018 at 6:36:21 PM

[up] oh my god, just finish the profile. Stop posting it on every page to announce what you're gonna add when you can just add it.

Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.
MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
#115621: May 13th 2018 at 6:38:10 PM

[up][up] Let's be clear about this.

1. Shadowland is a dominion trope, not a character trope. If Barbatos is to ascend, he must have a character trope.

2.If your profile doesn't get votes, it's because it hasn't properly updated yet. Did you even submit your idea for approval or did you just take a trope and made a profile around it?

If you have any doubts, check out the Pantheon rulebook. This is a place for fun and healthy interactions, not to impose your ideas on others.

edited 13th May '18 6:38:23 PM by MasterHero

wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#115622: May 13th 2018 at 6:51:30 PM

[up]He isn't imposing ideas, he's constantly asking if his stuff is acceptable or not. You can't really call that imposing (though he should ask permission to use tropes before taking them).

And, I've said this before and I'll say it again, it's a waste to give tropes to dominions when there are characters that work for them, given that deities can't really interact with dominions like they can with other deities and they rarely ever get acknowledged in other profiles. Or what, are you going to say all the deities in Locations are invalid?

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#115623: May 13th 2018 at 6:54:00 PM

There is an unspoken rule that sentient locations or items shouldn't be on Dominions/Treasures.

But have they ever explained why Shadowland fits Barbatos?

Uni cat
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#115624: May 13th 2018 at 7:11:02 PM

Shadowland is a Supertrope with no example. Really, there's should be an explanation for why it fits those other tropes in there.

Hey, can I give Vulcan Ultimate Blacksmith?

Catalyst375 Returning Browser Since: Jan, 2015
Returning Browser
#115625: May 13th 2018 at 7:22:47 PM

@fasoman1996 Because the Dark Multiverse is essentially a "shadowland" to the DC Multiverse (a Dark World, a Crapsack World, a collection of Mirror Universes,) where all the DC characters' greatest fears and nightmares are made reality as twisted reflections of the individuals whose emotions created those worlds, reflecting their innermost fears, regrets, and other negative aspects of their persona. This applies to Barbatos because he was the one who made the Dark Multiverse into what it is by letting the Forge go dark and no longer destroying the unstable worlds, letting it run amok with the unstable worlds populated by Dark Multiverse counterparts of notable heroes and villains.


Total posts: 207,909
Top