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    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#32476: Jul 27th 2015 at 7:22:51 PM

@ Poison Ivy: Mention her interaction with the rest of the House of Plants. Should be interesting as she can actually manipulate plant rather than just create them. Now that I think about it, she can be partner with Venusaur.

edited 27th Jul '15 7:24:09 PM by shatterstar

KantonKage "The Complete Warrior Of Justice Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
"The Complete Warrior Of Justice
#32477: Jul 27th 2015 at 7:23:41 PM

Hail HYDRANT!

"'I will destroy all evil!'''
TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#32478: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:03:47 PM

Did someone emntion Stirder Hiryu!?

Strider Hiryu, God of Audible Sharpness (Strider, The High-tech Mercenary)

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
JD2K Since: Oct, 2011
#32479: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:11:03 PM

[up]Naturally mention his crossovers (the Marvel Vs Capcom series) and preventing the first merging of worlds.

edited 27th Jul '15 8:15:41 PM by JD2K

Hello101 Since: Sep, 2013
#32480: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:26:00 PM

Reposting Mai again. Will ascend her on the 30th if nobody objects. If anybody has any suggestions, please post them as entries; I don't have a very wide base of knowledge on anime/manga/cartoons beyond the big ones, sadly.

Mai, Goddess of Outlining Knives (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • Potential House: Weapons.
  • Rank: Demigoddess
  • Symbol: A knife embedded in a wall.
  • Alignment: True Neutral when with Azula/the Fire Nation, leans towards Neutral Good later on.
  • Portfolio: Victory Is Boring, Knife Outline, Badass Normal, Deadpan Snarker, The Stoic, Shipping Sacrifice, Emotionless Girl, Not So Stoic When her Boyfriend is threatened.
  • Domains: Calm, Knives, Love.
  • Allies: Zuko (Sometimes), The Gaang (Possibly), Raven, Temari, Kairi.
  • Enemies: Azula, Bullseye.
  • Will They or Won't They? with: Zuko, who she has had an up and down relationship with (currently on a "down", but time will tell what happens).
  • Opposed by: A portion of the Zutara fandom. She, for the most part, doesn't care about them unless they try to kill her off.
  • Didn't really care about her ascension, though she was surprised to discover several people from her world had already ascended.
  • Mai has been trying to avoid Azula since her ascension, and Azula has been trying to capture/kill Mai since her ascension.
  • Sometimes goes to the House of Weapons to work on her knife-throwing.
  • While she will not comment on it, many believe that she has become friends with Temari and Raven due to their somewhat abrasive personalities towards those they don't care for and often those they do care for, as well as their ranged expertise.
  • Does care for her little brother Tom-Tom, but often pretends not to.
  • Doesn't really care for followers, but won't dissuade them as long as they don't bug her. (Though those who bring her fruit tarts and leave her alone otherwise she often looks on somewhat favorably.)
  • Dislikes Bullseye, who says she was an amateur for not killing anybody with sharpened weapons, whereas he had killed hundreds with Noodle Implements.
  • Stays away from the house of Emotion, due to her stoicism. Though rumors abound that she and Zuko have been seen together near the House of Love.

Other pages where mentioned: 1221

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[down] Could you help me, then? Please? If nothing else, she's probably one of the only characters who could get the position.

edited 27th Jul '15 9:20:06 PM by Hello101

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#32481: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:31:02 PM

[up]I object. That profile needs a lot of work before it's even decent enough to consider ascending.

[down]*higher

edited 27th Jul '15 8:37:15 PM by BlackSunNocturne

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#32482: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:36:17 PM

[up][up] Oh man, that's like one of those old pantheon profile. We have higher standards. Add allies of other series. I can see her being friends with Raven and Temari. Also, her house would be with Weapons. Also, enemies with Bullseyes since he use sharp objects.

[up] I know it was higher. Just give me a chance to correct it.

edited 27th Jul '15 8:39:22 PM by WhirlRX

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#32483: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:36:27 PM

@ Mai: You need flavor text, like... a few more to make this one passable. Try to search in different houses to search for characters that can make good enemies / allies with her. For example, make her sympathizes / pitited by characters that received a lot of Die for Our Ship.

Repost Esmeralda's profile. Do u guys have any [tup]? Idea?

Esmeralda (The Disney edition), Goddess of Hot Gypsy Woman and Deconstruction of the Virgin–Whore Complex (Angel, the gypsy, the siren, the devil)

  • Demigoddess
  • Symbol: Her Fashionable Asymmetry outfit with a tambourine
  • Theme Song: "God Helps The Outcasts"
  • Alignment: Chaotic Good
  • Portfolio: Action Girl, Combat Pragmatist by striking the groin, Dude Magnet (much to her discharge as she attracts Frollo's attention), Knight in Sour Armor, Barefoot Poverty, choosing to the fire over Frollo, different greatly from her source material (and much better for it)
  • Domain: Personal Appearance, Love, Personality
  • Allies: Her family (non-ascended), Quasimodo, Riku, Sora, Princess Jasmine, Rose, Belle
  • Enemies: JUDGE FROLLO, Akio Ohtori, Bambi Hughes, Gaston, Petr, Christian Grey, Tomaru Sawagoe, Xanthe Justice, Master Roshi, Garterbelt
  • Pities: Tenchi Masaki, Masaya Aoyama, Ranma Saotome
  • Pitied by: Wanda Maximoff / Scarlet Witch, Magneto, Victor von Doom, any gods who suffered from racism and sexual harassment
  • Opposed: AJ Lee
  • Conflicting Opinion: Esdeath, Juvia Lockser, Zeus
  • Was given the house by the previous goddess of the position Rose because the latter wants to stay closer to her friend Cammy in the House of Costume, stating that managing two houses can be exhausting at time and admitted that even she can't make three men to have fallen into Love at First Sight like Esmeralda did in her time as a mortal. The two still remaining contact and friends after Rose learning about her story.
  • The aftermath of Frollo discovered about Esmeralda's ascension is... not pretty to say the least.
    • Frollo's immediate reaction is complete denial and disbelief of how a "filthy devilous siren in the guise of a gypsy" can go into this place. Esmeralda just spits in his face and then retorts that she isn't in the house where everyone visit would see how deprave and hypocritical he is. She then proceeds to kneel him (repeatedly) in the crotch as pay back (due to now Frollo doesn't have any power and influence than he used to) for all the crime he did to her and her people during their time as mortal. No one's really intervening.
    • Her ascension and subsequent beatdown of him now cost Frollo to increase his hatred on her (and by extension, gypsies) even more and sworn revenge. He thankfully still just planning as after learning about her story and that she is Frollo's sworn enemy, Esmeralda was offered protection from fellow Romanian deities like Rose and Scarlet Witch as well as Magneto (who knows all too well how being executed for their lifestyle feels like), while Doctor Doom made sure that Esmeralda's fellow Romanian friends can stay close to her and grant immunity for the crimes they did for their survival during Frollo's gypsy persecution.
  • After learning that her friend Quasimodo has a temple in the Pantheon, Esmeralda immediately goes to his temple to give him a hug as she is happy he found some place that people can accept him and look beyond his appearance.
  • Made enemies with Gaston due to how he gets along with Frollo and his harassment of Belle. This earned her point in the latter's book and the two strikes up a friendship over their share experience of having unwanted attention and being outcast because of their differences. She also bonds with Princess Jasmine after learning about Jasmine's history with Jafar.
  • Because of her history dealing with unwanted attention and sexual harassment, Esmeralda develops a hatred for any deities that have similar behaviors in their backstory. This includes Akio, Bambi, Roshi and Garterbelt while she nearly attack Petr, Christian and Tomaru for their horrific crime if not for the Pantheon's policy of avoiding contact with the Disgraces house. This is especially bad with Zeus as she witnessed how he frequently abuses his god status and power to commit his deeds.
  • While Esmeralda pities some of AJ Lee's backstory, she decides to stay away from the latter due to how batshit crazy she is.
  • Has mixed feeling about Juvia. While Esmeralda disliked some of her antic towards Grey, she is still very impressed that the water mage can still be friends with her "love rivals".
  • Has complicated feeling towards Esdeath. When first heard about her position, Esmeralda just rolls her eyes and assumes that she would be another deprave villain with an unhealthy lust-filled relationship. However, when she actually visited Esdeath's temple, Esmeralda discovered that she is genuinely in love with Tatsumi. Plus, one of Esdeath's action (namely botched Tatsumi's execution and whisked him away to make him fall in love with her) eerily reminds the gypsy of her own action toward Phoebus and Quasimodo towards her. However, Esdeath is such a Blood Knight that Esmeralda can't seem to find herself to befriend the villainess.
  • Recently made enemies with Xanthe Justice due to how the latter keep trying to shove Esmeralda into her obnoxious definition of "virgin" (for her interaction with Quasimodo, her marriage with Phoebus and the strong religious theme in her song) and "whore" (for her... dance in the Feast of Fool and outfit) while missing the point that Esmeralda represents a human being with flaws and virtues and she won't stand to be defined by both view.
  • Despite the religious theme of her song and the fact that she sung it in a church, her song was not very popular in the House of Faith. Reason was given that in the song, Esmeralda bluntly admits that she doesn't truly believe in the deity she was praying to but instead just out of desperation for her people. However, it was very popular in the House of Friendship as they admired the fact that she didn't blame God for her own situation but instead prayed for others and happily adopt it into their house.

[down] It doesn't even have to be works that you have seen. You can just search on TV Tropes to get a grasp of their personality.

edited 27th Jul '15 8:44:19 PM by shatterstar

Hello101 Since: Sep, 2013
#32484: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:38:06 PM

[up], [up][up], [up][up][up] True, hence why I'm asking for help. Any ideas, again? Please? Cause I would be grateful.

Edit: Profile has been updated; what do you think? Also, if somebody knows what houses Temari and Raven are in so I could link it, it'd be nice.

Edit: For Esmerelda [tup].

[down][down][down][down] I think most deities would oppose the nazis out of sheer principle.

edited 27th Jul '15 8:54:56 PM by Hello101

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#32485: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:41:28 PM

Mention her brother. How in the beginning people thought she didn't care about him but she turns out to really care for him as she took him from her Pro-Ozai father.

[up][up] [tup]

edited 27th Jul '15 8:42:17 PM by WhirlRX

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#32487: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:50:19 PM

@Esmeralda [tup]

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115
JD2K Since: Oct, 2011
#32488: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:50:54 PM

@Esmeralda: [tup] Btw, the term is "Romani" as in the ethnic group, not Romanian, which is a nationality. I'd also recommend adding Nazi deities (Red Skull, Millenium) to her list of enemies as the Nazi were also exterminating Romani as well as Jews.

edited 27th Jul '15 8:52:12 PM by JD2K

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#32489: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:54:45 PM

edited 27th Jul '15 9:37:43 PM by WhirlRX

TheUncreative Since: Oct, 2014
#32490: Jul 27th 2015 at 8:55:59 PM

@Hello101: Kairi is a frequent victim of Die for Our Ship.

@Esmeralda: Looks good (I do think that, while she isn't exactly religious, she did believe in God... somewhat).

Could also mention her opinion on the Esmeralda from the novel (or maybe bookworms in the Pantheon reacting to Disney!Esmeralda). Are there any gods that fight against discrimination (Fantastic Racism optional)? She could be allies with them, too.

As for her title, you could format the first part as Goddess of Hot Gypsy Women ( '''Goddess of {{Hot Gypsy Wom|an}}en''' )

[up] This might be shallow, because this mostly comes from the name of the trope, but what would Leonidas think of Ozai?

edited 27th Jul '15 9:05:49 PM by TheUncreative

Hello101 Since: Sep, 2013
#32491: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:00:03 PM

[up] Good idea... unfortunately, I don't know who that is... er, could you post a entry?

[up][up] No "fire/lightning" in portfolio/domains/whichever?

So... opinion on Mai's entry now?

edited 27th Jul '15 9:07:05 PM by Hello101

RokuAlhazared The Emperor Of Darkness Since: Jul, 2015
The Emperor Of Darkness
#32492: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:10:53 PM

Ivy's Second Draft. And I found a better picture this time.

Pamela Lillian Isley, Patron Goddess Of Garden Garments and Evil Gardens (Poison Ivy, The Green Queen)

edited 27th Jul '15 9:15:52 PM by RokuAlhazared

The One Who Crosses The Sky In Flames
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#32493: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:13:59 PM

[up] Spoil the arkham part, and Two Fave isn't part of the pantheon. Also, mention her relationship Harley in which it is romantic. And it's the most stable relationship of Harley.

edited 27th Jul '15 9:15:22 PM by WhirlRX

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#32494: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:14:00 PM

[up][up]"That video is unavailable"

Theme song link is borked

edited 27th Jul '15 9:16:09 PM by BlackSunNocturne

Hello101 Since: Sep, 2013
#32495: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:14:04 PM

[up][up][up] Might want to add a spoiler for the Arkham Knight part... some of us haven't played it yet due to the buggy PC version... well, I heard it's still buggy.

[up][up] Actually, I think he's in the House of Justice... or the Court of the Gods.

edited 27th Jul '15 9:15:09 PM by Hello101

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#32496: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:15:03 PM

Esmeralda has danced her way into the Pantheon, with Red Skull and Millennium as enemies.

I replaced Romanian with Romani and I'm sorry if it offend anyone as I lived in Asia and just moved to America recently so I am not very informative of racism against them.

I'm not going to pretend that I read the novel so I'm sorry that I am unable to write that interaction. I got bored after the first useless overly long depiction of Notre Dame and the racist undertone against the Romani.

Completely unrelated topic: tongue That picture of Poison Ivy. She can sic whatever plants or poison she has on me as long as she kept looking like that during the act.

Edit: Again, mention her interaction with the rest of the House of Plant.

edited 27th Jul '15 9:24:37 PM by shatterstar

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#32497: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:17:30 PM

[up]There are very many Romani in Romania, but Romani aren't Romanian. If that makes any sense [lol]

r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#32498: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:20:00 PM

@Twoface: Just checked, he's in the Court of the Gods, but not in the Pantheon proper. I'm wondering what tropes are free that he could get.

JD2K Since: Oct, 2011
#32499: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:20:29 PM

@Ivy: Since she's got a soft spot for orphans, I'd add other "orphan caretaker" deities to her allies/those she tolerates, like Terra Branford and Felicia.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#32500: Jul 27th 2015 at 9:22:17 PM

So is Scarface ready?

Scarface, God of Predators (Yautja) (the New Way Devil, El Diablo invisible, El Diablo que hace trofeos de los hombres, Jerry (only Matt, Pat, Woolie and Liam call him this, and they're the only ones allowed to do so in any case))

Also, weren't we making an Aliens section for Otherness?


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