To-do-list
- Just For Pun has been moved to Just for Fun and renamed to JustForFun.Punny Trope Names. All wicks to Just for Pun that aren't on other indexes, trope descriptions, or Just for Fun pages need to be removed or moved to Pun and its subtropes when appropriate.
My wick check, Wick For Pun Check, needed 62 wicks. I checked 70, which contained 73 examples. The results are as follows:
- Wick used as index: 0/73 = 0%
- Pun in-universe: 18/73 = 24.7%
- Pun out-of-universe: 45/73 = 61.6%
- Other trope'd fitnote : 10/73 = 13.7%
What to do? I'd suggest a more indicative name for the index, like Punny Trope Names. I was going to suggest a disambig to pun tropes, but Pun already has all the pun tropes as an index, so maybe redirect there. Soliciting better ideas for this back half of the proposal.
Wick check:
Just For Pun, according to Tropes Needing TRS: "This is an index of tropes with pun-based names, but due to it having a non-indictive name it is frequently misused as a Pothole Magnet for puns."Wicks checked: 70/62, containing 73 examples
- Film.Zombeavers: From Bad to Worse: In The Stinger [[spoiler:a bee comes into contact with infected blood, and then infects its entire hive.]] Now imagine the consequences... [[spoiler: Zombees.]] IU pun
- Funny.Monster House: And DJ's attempt at lightening a situation at the end. IU pun
- Funny.Poker Night At The Inventory: Bad hands? IU pun
...Tycho: *flatly* Fuck this shit. *folds*
- Funny.Vampire Survivors: The Loremaster doesn't have much to say about the Notadam. "They're dwarves. Just regular ol' dwarves. What more do you want, exactly? Some sort of clever twist on familiar folklore? A delightful parody full of puns and unsubtle political allegories? Sorry, but I've Notadam thing to say other than the fact that they're dwarves and they believe in free universal healthcare." IU pun
- Magazine.Mad: Artifact Title: The 'departments' listed at the top of each article. This is a leftover from the days when MAD was a color comic book in the 50's, when it actually had things like "Western Department" or "Horror Department" depending on the article's subject matter. Now (and at least since the 60's) it's little more than a throwaway gag and usually Just For Pun. IU pun
- Main.Do Androids Dream: Manly Guys Doing Manly Things has a one-off strip that deliberately inverts this trope Just For Pun. IU pun
- Main.Furry Reminder: SWAT Kats generally sees the populace lean towards the more human end of the scale, with the only reminders (aside from the lame cat-puns) being references to consumer goods such as "hairball eliminator," the apparent substitution of milk for alcohol, and the one time in the series that Razor gets a furball (chalk that one down to Rule of Funny). IU pun
- Main.Mundane Afterlife: R.I.P.D.: Heaven is a large, bustling police department... overseen by the Bureau of Eternal Affairs. IU pun
- Main.Second Person Narration: The last part of the novel Some Other Place. The Right Place by Donald Harington is written like this, but the "you" is not the reader but the first-person narrator of the previous chapters, whose "eye" has been confiscated by a new narrator who speaks in first person plural. IU pun
- Main.So Unfunny Its Funny: Buffy the Vampire Slayer has Angel, of all people, crack a joke like this in "Earshot", saying he's "dying to get rid of immortality". IU pun
- Quotes.Big Damn Heroes: IU pun
Firefly: Seems like we've arrived in the nick of time. What does that make us, Thunder?
Lightning Bolt: Big Mane Heroines, Flash! - Recap.Pokemon S 2 E 3 Poke Ball Peril: Hindenburg Incendiary Principle: The blimp Team Rocket has captured Ash and Misty on is filled with inflammable hydrogen gas, and Ash is warned not to have Pikachu use any electric attacks or the blimp will burst into flames... IU pun
Jessie: Hold it! This blimp is a giant flying inflammable gas tank!James: If your Pikachu uses its' Thunderbolt..Meowth: We'll all go Pika-BOOM!
- Recap.Trollhunters S 2 E 8 Just Add Water: Toby phrases the new mineral exhibit at the science museum as a "rock show", making it sound like he was bringing his "baby" to a musical concert. You can tell he did that on purpose just to get a reaction. IU pun
- Series.Mahou Sentai Magiranger: The series has as much fun as it can playing on the words "Magi-" and the Japanese word "maji" (meaning "really" or "seriously"). IU pun
- Series.Mahou Sentai Magiranger: According to GoGo Sentai Boukenger vs. Super Sentai, the Ozu family residence is located in "Tokyo-to Kanza-su Doro-shi 5-2-13". Kanza-su and Doro-shi, or, that is to say, Kansas and Dorothy. IU pun
- SwissArmyWeapon.Video Games: RuneScape: Members now also have access to the Dwarven Army Axe, which combines the functions of a hatchet, pickaxe, needle, tinderbox, and chisel into one item. While nowhere near as good as a specialty pick or hatchet, being able to cram five tools into one inventory slot is very useful when traversing dangerous areas of the world that need those sort of tools to get around. IU pun
- Trivia.Bobs Burgers: Old Shame: Loren Bouchard admitted that he found the "Child Molester" burger, as well as some of the other audacious jokes from the first episode, to be in poor taste. IU pun
- WebVideo.Nullmetal Alchemist: Catchphrase: Nullmetal's "BIGGITY BAM!" and Dr. Marcoh has a habit of replying to people saying his name with "Polo (Motherfucker)." IU pun
- Anime.Genesis Of Aquarion: Hopeless Suitor: Otoha, The Dragon to Touma, is head-over-wings for him and her loyalty knows no bounds for the one man she loves. In spite of her awareness as this role given Touma and Apollonius' history, Otoha pinballs between depression over knowing there will never be a true place in Touma's heart for her and haughty arrogance that she'll be the one to win his affections. OOU pun
- Anime.Ghost In The Shell Arise: Unresolved Sexual Tension: It starts with the Belligerent Sexual Tension in the manga, where Batou and the Major are still major rivals, through their usual Vitriolic Best Buds and Well, Excuse Me, Princess! dynamic, to the pretty blatant last scene of the fourth OVA. OOU pun
- Characters.Granblue Fantasy Event Antagonists: Bullying a Dragon Knight: All of the thugs he sent are easily dispatched by the knights without even requiring a battle sequence whatsoever. OOU pun
- Characters.Honor Harrington Manticore: Chest of Medals: See the list of honors after her her name? That's but the highest awards Honor's been decorated with in her half century of service. OOU pun
- Characters.Punch Out: Oh, Crap!: Notably tries to defy this when Little Mac throws a Star Punch, by trying to beat Little Mac to the punch... which doesn't work. Points for trying, though! OOU pun
- Characters.Shadowverse: One of the unlockable flairs from playing Swordcraft is titled "Maid to Kill".
- Characters.Sly Cooper Villains: Walking Spoiler: This girl is full of surprises in the game, though her spot on this page lets her out of the bag. OOU pun
- Characters.The Batman Antagonists: Pungeon Master: Every other line out of his mouth includes ice puns. However, unlike the previous ice-pun-quipping version of Freeze, this version actually manages to make them sound... chilling. OOU pun
- Characters.The Brave Little Toaster: Genius Ditz: Lampy's not very bright and none of his ideas ever work...but he is an expert on anything related to light. And most usefully, he knows how to read. OOU pun
- Characters.Hearthstone Heroes Of Warcraft Dungeon Run Bosses: Crippling Overspecialization/Weaksauce Weakness: Minion-heavy decks are bearly affected by him. OOU pun
- ComicBook.Owly: Cute Owl: Hoo else but Owly? Just look at him! OOU pun
- ComicStrip.Peanuts: Eskimos Aren't Real: Lucy once spent several strips mocking Charlie Brown for telling her that birds fly south for the winter: "In all my life, Charlie Brown, I have never met anyone with an imagination like yours!" When Chuck insisted, and also added that they fly north during the summer, Lucy sarcastically retorted that they must fly east during the spring and west during the fall. Then she pressed the issue further with "Chickens are birds, aren't they?! You never see a chicken flying south for the winter, do you?! CHICKENS ARE BIRDS, AREN'T THEY?!" Eventually Lucy learned (from a third party) that Charlie Brown was right about (some) birds flying south for the winter, and had to eat crow. OOU pun
- CoolStarship.Video Games: In SD Gundam G Generation Cross Rays, the battleship Carry Base, which was once just a recolored Space Ark from Mobile Suit Gundam F91, got itself a nifty redesign which divorced it from its base and made it its own distinct ship. It has a nice fearsome silhouette and you'll be using it a lot until you can access canon ships. OOU pun
- CurbStompBattle.Real Life: 1944's version included two thousand artists to create hundreds of blow up trucks, artillery pieces, and tanks. They then gave the artists several dozen real versions of each, a bunch of recording equipment and loudspeakers, and several hundred radio sets, and got them to...inflate... Allied numbers in certain sectors. Together these two thousand men consistently faked the existence of forces of between fifty and a hundred thousand combat troops - no mean feat, given that the Western Allies only had half a million real ones! OOU pun
- DethroningMoment.Sponge Bob Square Pants: But the third and absolute biggest sin of this scene isn't either of those very glaring issues; it's that it deliberately puts the movie to a screeching halt just so it can have a series of back-to-back flashbacks to a spinoff show that people are already on the fence about. This blatant act of self-promotion is something that films like Ralph Breaks the Internet and The Emoji Movie get criticized for, except in those movies you could argue that the plot is still moving forward to some tiny extent. Here, you could remove every flashback and cut to the chase (literally) and nothing of value would be lost. OOU pun
- Fanfic.Wanna Bee: Underestimating Badassery: Because of her skinny appearance, Khepri comes across as unintimidating to anyone who looks past her creepy demeanor. Even Vaggie and Angel Dust dismiss her as nonthreatening. Then she busts out her swarm and shows that she makes one Hell of a One-Woman Army. OOU pun
- Film.Love Stinks: Shot in the Ass: Chelsea does this to Seth in the end. OOU pun
- Funny.Guilty Gear: The conversations between Valentine and her balloon Lucifer, when she remains idle. He keeps trying to flirt with Valentine, but deflates immediately when she rebuffs him. OOU pun
- Manga.Cat Paradise: Technicolor Fire: Kaen's flames are supposed to be blue, according to some comments in the story. However, if colored pages are to be believed, it's more likely that they're the normal orange-yellow color most of the time, and blue when he's sufficiently fired up. OOU pun
- Monster.Wiki Sandbox: This is a complete monster of a page, clocking in at exactly 500,000 characters - otherwise known as the page size limit here on TV Tropes. If you ever wanted to see the "this page is too long" error without hunting for it, well, just try to edit the page. OOU pun
- Music.Dire Straits: New Sound Album: While they never entirely moved away from their roots rock... erm... roots, Love Over Gold definitely marked a shift to a more technically complex sound with more liberal use of Epic Rocking. This is particularly apparent on Love Over Gold itself, which opens up with the 14-minute Progressive Rock suite "Telegraph Road". OOU pun
- PlayingAgainstType.Video Games: Brianna Knickerbocker is often associated with Nice Girl, Shrinking Violet, and The Quiet One type characters. In Fire Emblem Fates have this along with Pigeonholed Voice Actor. Sakura is the kind of character she would normally voice, but Charlotte is a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing that likes to flirt with men. OOU pun
- Funny.RWBY Thoughts: Cinder's overconfidence in her Paper-Thin Disguise gets ripped to shreds. Her reaction is genuine shock that it didn't work. OOU pun
- Heartwarming.Wonderlab: The growing camaraderie between Taii, Rose, and Catt is the emotional core of Wonderlab. Over the course of the comic, the former two begin to soften and chip away at the ice-shelled heart of the friendship-wary Catt, and Catt slowly starts to open themself up even after the heartache they faced after joining the company. Though tragedy inevitably strikes, it's hard not to get attached to the three and wonder at their growing bond. OOU pun
- Literature.Auntie Mame: Moody Mount: Sally saddles Mame with one of these, Lightning Rod. In the movie, he is much more unfittingly named "Meditation". OOU pun
- Main.Bare Handed Blade Block: Parodied like so many other things in Keijo!!!!!!!! When Iaijutsu Practitioner Saya attacks Kaya with her breasts, Kaya counters with a Bare Breasted Boob Block. OOU pun
- Main.Clipped Wing Angel: In the season 3 finale of The Legend of Korra, armless waterbender Ming-hua lures Mako down to an underground pool because she has no way to fight him without water. She makes multiple Combat Tentacles from the pool and leaves him out of (what she thinks) his element and into hers; shockingly for her, he's able to use his lightning to take advantage of her logical Achilles' Heel. He gets clear of the water, shoots it with lightning, and kills her almost instantly. OOU pun
- Main.Demonic Dummy: You've all heard of monstrous mimes and creepy clowns. Well, rounding out the Trilogy of Horror Vaudevillainy is the Demonic Dummy, otherwise known as the evil ventriloquist's doll. OOU pun
- Main.Gasshole: A Gasshole is a character in a series who is known for being, well, gassy. The humor may focus on the frequency with which this person farts or belches, the magnitude of their emissions, or their shamelessness about it. If they use their, ahem, talent as a form of attack, the trope is Fartillery, and if they meet their match it's Farts on Fire. OOU pun
- Main.Generational Saga: The History Channel's Vikings deals with one generation's rise to prominence and the rise of the following generation of kings and vikings. OOU pun
- Main.Longing For Fictionland: An abnormal psychology textbook from 2006 or so contained a section on really hard-core Elvis fans. It advised readers not to regard these fans as schizophrenic or otherwise mentally ill, because, devoted though they are, they will quite readily admit that Elvis really has left the building. OOU pun
- Recap.Angel S 05 E 22 Not Fade Away: Back at Wolfram & Hart, Hamilton continues to beat the (un)living hell out of Angel. Connor arrives to help his father, but the duo still have trouble taking Hamilton down. OOU pun
- Recap.Batman The Animated Series E 34 The Laughing Fish: Artistic License – Law: Even worse, his plan was to copyright (not patent) the fish so that anyone catching them would have to pay him a royalty. That's not how copyright works. (And since the fish were going to be released into the wild, he obviously didn't have any issue with unauthorized reproduction...) But again, it's probable the Joker knew this all along and was just doing it all For the Evulz... OOU pun
- Series.Power Rangers SPD: Transformation Is a Free Action: Averted in the finale. A-Squad Rangers morph first, but don't wait for B-Squad Rangers to do so, instead they just shoot at them during their morphing sequence. Unfortunately, it does nothing other than make them look cool. (A-Team Firing, maybe?) OOU pun
- Series.The Americans: The Cold War Just Got Hotter OOU pun
- SpiritualSuccessor.Animated Films: The Bad Guys (2022): Take the zany heist scenes, the designs of the humans, and render them in 2D black-and-white, and you'd be forgiven for thinking it's for a new installment of Lupin III. Officer Luggin's status as a dedicated member of the law constantly coming close to but always failing to apprehend her suave and crafty lupine nemesis directly bring to mind Zenigata. OOU pun
- TearJerker.Land Of The Lustrous: Chapter 79: Phos' suffering hits absolute rock-bottom as they, after being shattered for 220 years, finally get reassembled, only to learn that nobody, nobody, sans Adamant who reassembled them, no longer have even the slightest shrapnel of memory left about the gem, making them the Un-person of the Lustrous. OOU pun
- Trivia.Star Trek Deep Space Nine S 01 E 15 Progress: Sci-Fi Writers Have No Sense of Scale: Hydroelectric power doesn't always require damn big dams on a river. Alternatives can best be described as "windmills under water," whether that water is a river or the ocean. Speaking of windmills... OOU pun
- VideoGame.Oddworld Strangers Wrath: Wire Dilemma: From the opposite direction, a pair of Outlaws are trying to arm a bomb, bickering about whether the blue or green button sets the timer. [[spoiler:It's the blue one, but since Outlaws are criminally stupid...]] OOU pun
- Webcomic.Fey Winds: Shirtless Scene: After Kit rips off the dress that was hampering her in battle, Nigel follows suit... OOU pun
- WesternAnimation.Batman The Brave And The Bold: Death Montage: Poor Batman suffers through this in "Emperor Joker!". Throughout this montage he gets crushed by a giant hammer, dropped into the Acid Pool, incinerated to ashes by a flamethrower, Chained to a Railway and run over by a train, guillotined, Eaten Alive by a Threatening Shark, etc. And at each painful, comedic death he goes through, the Joker brings him back to life only to kill him again. It is not until the Dark Knight gets worn out from all the deaths he endured that the new Clown Emperor decides not to kill him again, as his repeated killings start getting rather boring. OOU pun
- WMG.Ant Man 1: The Wasp will appear in The Stinger: Just For Pun. OOU pun
- WMG.Gods Not Dead 2: Josh will return: Joshed OOU pun
- YMMV.How The Grinch Stole Christmas: Ham and Cheese: Jim Carrey providing his trademark ham to the movie's cheese. While the critics provide the whine. OOU pun
- YMMV.The A Team: Cliché Storm: Which is part of the pun... ah fun. OOU pun
- Blog.DiscordedWhooves: Enforced on the Doctor once he enters the Punverse. World of Pun
- Characters.MCU Criminals Terrorists New York: Evil Has a Bad Sense of Humor: Along with Just For Pun. He doesn't quip too often, but he does kind of enjoy it when it does. Pungeon Master
Luke: I'm looking for Nigel, man.Bushmaster: Him gone. Headed elsewhere. [laughs]
- Characters.Kimba The White Lion: Meaningful Name: Doubles for Just For Pun - in Japanese, "Dick and Bo" sounds like the Japanese word for "blockhead", reflecting their lack of competence. Punny Name
- EasterEgg.Watchmen 2019: Episode 8: "A God Walks Into Abar" ...isn't named after anything and is Just For Pun. Pun-Based Title
- FamousLastWords.Death Battle: "Sorry to SOIL your fun!" Twilight Sparkle, about to stomp on Raven (transformed into a small potted plant) before Raven's Soul-Self pounds her into the ground. Though it's deliberately ambiguous as to whether she died or not. Pre-Mortem One-Liner
- Film.Shaun Of The Dead: Compare Dawn of the Dead (Wright and Pegg freely admit this is an awful gag, but were too attached to it.) Pun-Based Title
- Film.Shaun Of The Dead: Pun-Based Title Pegg has also joked about making a sequel - From Dusk Till Shaun. Pun-Based Title
- Film.Shaun Of The Dead: Pun-Based Title One of the bonus features is an It's A Knockout-style game with zombies as the contestants — called "Dead Fun", thus playing on two meanings of "dead". Pun-Based Title
- Funny.The Last Of Us 2023: Ellie gains her proficiency for puns this episode when it's revealed she has acquired a joke book full of them. Pungeon Master
- Main.Skeleton Key: Used Just For Pun in The Monkees, when Mickey finds one in the pocket of a skeleton's coat. Visual Pun
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 23rd 2023 at 3:36:59 AM
All right, it's up.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Posting this comment to make public that I voted in favor of Punny Trope Names. I didn't upvote or downvote any of the other options.
135 - 158 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300Calling crowner in favor of renaming the index to JustForFun.Punny Trope Names.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 22nd 2023 at 7:02:00 AM
Macron's notesUhhh…typo?
Edit: Alright its been fixed
Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jul 22nd 2023 at 7:11:04 PM
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation project^ Fun/Pun mixup. Fixed.
Also, I did the move. 3998 wicks to look through.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 22nd 2023 at 7:11:11 AM
Macron's notesMove all the puns to Pun I guess.
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation project^ I added that to the to-do list I wrote earlier. I assume I have the cleanup down correctly but not sure.
Macron's notesThere were ones in my wick check that fit subtropes, too.
Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker MailEdited the OP to reflect that.
Macron's notesI made JustForFun.Just For Pun as a redirect to catch inbounds, so we can cut the Main.Just For Pun redirect (which we won't cut until dewicking is done).
Edit: Oh, and I fixed a typo on the discussion page notice for JustForFun.Punny Trope Names, and copied that notice over to the original name's discussion page.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 22nd 2023 at 11:27:23 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Alright now that this project has its solution settled on, I looked at the page itself and am now left wondering what even constitutes a pun according to tropers. A lot of the entries are broad plays on words (like swapping out a word in a set phrase, eg. When Harry Met Svetlana) rather than playing on homonyms/homophones (eg. Death Throws).
But, "what constitutes a punny trope name" is outside the scope of this thread, I figure. Where would I pose that question?
Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker MailI think Trope Talk since it's a list of tropes, but it's possible that Wiki Talk would be more appropriate since it has to do with the policy for what's listed.
I do agree that it's outside this thread's scope because this thread is more concerned about off-page links and not what's on the index, so we should focus on that and take discussion about what belongs on it elsewhere.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 23rd 2023 at 3:36:18 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Yeah, I think we'll definitely cut the Just For Pun from Main/ once finished because it keeps appearing in indices of pun based trope names.
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation projectI decided to disambiguate Main.Just For Pun between Punny Trope Names and Pun (instead of cutting it) due to how often it was misused in place of the latter. I also removed a line on Punny Trope Names that was clarifying the page's purpose as an index for trope names, but since the page's purpose is more clear with the new name, it's no longer needed.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 20th 2023 at 5:19:07 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Good call. That should discourage unneeded links.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportGood idea.
In that case, I believe JustForFun.Just For Pun is just a pointless redirect now?
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation projectYeah, that can be axed. It'll only attract bad wicks.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportI agree with cutting that redirect and the reasoning given for doing so. It was made before Main.Just For Pun was disambiguated, so it's not needed anymore.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 20th 2023 at 7:45:29 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Swell, moving with the cleaning, starting out with the "A" namespaces. 3394 wicks left.
Thanks for playing King's Quest V!I took out every wick in the YMMV namespace.
Down to 2167 since I worked on some of the Main/ wicks. This strikes me as one of those cleanup projects that's more time-consuming than difficult, because the wicks that weren't Sinkholes (mostly puns from works, but sometimes wicks in descriptions as well) tend to neatly fit Pun, Pun-Based Title, or Punny Name.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.1971. Fortunately, a lot are just these potholes written solely for the amusement of the troper writing them, so they can be zapped pretty easily.
Thanks for playing King's Quest V!
Crown Description:
Consensus was to move Just For Pun to the JustForFun/ namespace and rename it. What should its new name be?
Calling in favor of moving to the JustForFun/ namespace and renaming. I'll get a name crowner ready.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.