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Note: This thread was proposed by Berrenta.

Elemental Powers is a super trope for powers that are attuned with the elements. I did a wick check as I noticed many cases of illegal subbullets (as in, subbulleting tropes, which is not allowed), and I wondered how bad it was. I also noticed in the check that it was used when a trope for the individual element could have been used instead.

The results:

  • Inline/no subbullets, yet valid: 20.83/67 = 31.1%
  • Subbullets that abide with policy: 7/67 = 10.4%
  • Subbullets that violate policy: 13.17/67 = 19.7%
  • Not enough context or other misuse: 19/67 = 28.4%
  • Single element: 7/67 = 10.4%

One suggestion is to make it an index, though a rename will help on top of that; otherwise, the misuse/bad subbullets will crop up again.

Elemental Powers wick check:

Wick check for Elemental Powers

The issue: Just like Five-Man Band before, this trope is often followed by subbulleted tropes, which is an example-writing violation. This check serves to see how widespread the problem is.

Checked: 67/67

     No subbullets, but still valid ( 20 5/ 6 out of 67) 
  1. It Runs on Nonsensoleum: Fighter survives a freefall by using his Knight abilities to block the ground. Fighter's "explanation" is that since he can block all sorts of elemental attacks, it's natural that he'd be able to block Earth.
  2. Anime.Samurai Pizza Cats: The Samurai Pizza Cats Rescue Team each represented one of these. Meowzma (Gotton) was earth, General Catton (Rikinoshin) was fire, Bat Cat (Mietoru) was wind, and Spritz T. Cat (Nekkii) was water. Similarly, the three of the four Rude Noise members each represent the elements: Cannonball Battery (Bonkaa) represents fire, Ronnie Geissmuller (Wokkaa) represent water, and Mojo Rojo (Rekkaa) represents wind. The lone exception is Bad Max (Zankaa), who represents the darkness.
  3. Characters.A Game Of Chance: The Promethians are an ancient magical race known for attaining absolute mastery over fire and lightning-based magics. Not so normal now, huh?
  4. Characters.A Geeks Guide Corporation Of Occult Research And Extermination: Mainly attacks using magic circles that blast opponents with fire, ice, or lightning.
  5. Characters.Bloodstained Ritual Of The Night (1/3): Her sub-weapons allow her to use a variety of elemental abilities, such as lightning orbs that cling to the ceiling, and wind funnels that shoot forward and then climb up. She can also fire seeds that sprout from the ground to give health powerups.
  6. Characters.Encantadia: Four-Element Ensemble: The four of them are the keepers of the Gems of Air, Fire, Water and Earth, and have powers related to their respective element.
  7. Characters.Fire Emblem Warriors:
    1. Like Robin, Leo is able to use many spells of different elements, be they fire, thunder, wind, light, or darkness.
    2. The tome he carries for this game allows him to use more than one element this time around, Thunder, Fire, Wind, Darkness, and Light, and he can even combine them together to form a giant ball in his Pair Up Special. He still favors Thunder Magic, however.
    3. Linde can use light, wind, ice, lightning, and fire in her attacks.
    4. In her special attacks, where she tends to use more elements than just light, including fire, thunder, and wind.
    5. Like every magic user confirmed to use a tome, Validar has access to any element and spell that he could possibly want.
  8. Characters.Hecksing Ulumate Crconikals: It can shoot fire, electricity, poison, and... water. It later adds explosives after merging itself with Alucard's tank.
  9. Characters.Maken Ki Protagonists: Kagezuchi (her fire elemental) and Igazuchi (lightning elemental) are the two she most relies on in battle. But, if need be, she can also summon Nozuchi (her earth elemental) who has power over trees, plants, and has the ability to heal her. Himegami is so adept with them that she's rarely ever had to use her Maken.
  10. Characters.Okami: Each head has its own element: fire, water, wind, earth, lightning, poison, light, and darkness.
  11. Characters.Pokemon The Series Team Rocket Trio: Among the many Pokémon he has owned, his three most common types are Grass, Poison and Psychic.
  12. Characters.Ralph Breaks The Internet: During the climax, Moana and Ariel demonstrate some control over water, Pocahontas has some control over wind, and Elsa has her ice powers.
  13. Characters.Twitch Plays Pokemon Fire Red (1/2): Tri Attack, a mashup of Fire, Ice and Electricity (which results in a Normal attack, somehow).
  14. GranblueFantasy.Tropes D To H: Characters come in one of six elements, Fire, Wind, Earth, Water, Light and Dark.
  15. Literature.Iron Widow: The mecha each have specialties based on the five Chinese elements: fire, earth, metal, water, and wood. Wood types are the most conductive of qi and have the highest transformation potential, fire types can channel qi into powerful blasts, etc. Different pilots have different specialties too, with Zetian specializing in metal (control and precision), and Shimin in fire (power and destruction).
  16. Literature.Roll Over And Die: Most people in this world are born with an affinity for magic of one of the six elements: water, fire, earth, air, light and darkness. Some people, however, are born with rare affinities that grant them different kinds of magic.
  17. Manga.Omamori Himari: Besides Shizuku, there's also Yuuto and Kuesu, and some (though not all) other demon slayer clans have elemental powers as well.
  18. Myth.Beti Pahuin Mythology: Nkoum Akok Ndong Bibang of the thorn tribe fought against Engouang Ondo with sunlight, rain, and fire as weapons.
  19. NoodleIncident.Webcomics: Sleepless Domain: The members of Team Alchemical can all use their respective Elemental Powers to achieve something close enough to flight — with the exception of Alchemical Fire. The alt text at one point notes that she had once tried using her fire abilities as a jetboot, but "never again."
  20. Recap.Charmed S 1 E 15 Is There A Woogy In The House: (re: Early-Installment Weirdness) The Nexus is revealed to be equidistant from five elements, but they use the five Taoist elements (water, fire, wood, metal and earth). Any time Elemental Powers show up in the series, it's the four classical ones (earth, air, fire and water).
  21. Roleplay.You Won A Mansion: Each of the masters have a sort of associated element. Nick is Lightning, Crowley's main is Fire, Kiven is Wind, Masters is Chaos, and Jason is Star.
  22. Series.Eastwick: So far, Kat has electrocuted her husband with a lightning strike and frozen a swimming pool solid. She then also almost kills her ex's date with a gust of wind.
     Legal subbullets ( 7 out of 67) 
To preserve space, just display the first level item.
  1. Characters.Carnival Mirror: Each character with a Persona or Marionette specializes in a particular element. Three distinct examples that are aided by potholes to denote tropes
  2. JustForFun.Sonic And The Imperial Regalia: Tropes are listed, but they follow the characters being listed. They could use more context, though.
  3. Manga.Angel Sanctuary
  4. Manhwa.Witch Hunter: Two distinct examples that do not rely on tropes
  5. MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.Tropes E To K: Two distinct examples that do not rely on tropes
  6. Pokemon.Tropes A To I: 18 of them! Tropes are listed, but they follow the types being listed
  7. VideoGame.Disciples: All factions tend to focus on 1 or 2 of the following: Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Death, Life, Mind and Weapon (the last is less an Element than it is the absence of an element, it is used for most Unit's melee/archery attacks). The following subbullets do not rely on trope wicks.
     Illegal subbullets ( 13 1/ 6 out of 67) 
To preserve space, just display the first level item (if any). If there are multiple wicks, say how many would fit under this category.
  1. Characters.Astral Disaster
  2. Characters.Bloodstained Ritual Of The Night: 2 instances (out of 3)
  3. Characters.Delicious In Dungeon Monsters: Overlaps with Breath Weapon:
  4. Characters.Dragons Crown: 2 instances (out of 2)
  5. Characters.The Saints: More so than anyone else.
  6. Characters.Twitch Plays Pokemon Fire Red: 1 instance (out of 2)
  7. LetsPlay.Versus: The starter pokemon that were chosen.
  8. Manga.Zatch Bell: Plenty of variety across the demons shown:
  9. Manga.Zettai Shoujo Seiiki Amnesian: Commented out
  10. Roleplay.Personifications
  11. TabletopGame.Axiom Campaign: King Van'Derrick's sisters.
  12. VideoGame.Bomberman: Done liberally in The Second Attack!, Generation, and Jetters.
  13. VideoGame.Eitr: Certain items during the demo had elemental effects.
  14. Webcomic.Panthera: Duh?
     ZCE/misuse ( 19 out of 67) 
  1. Body Horror.Webcomics: In Pacificators, this is Nozomi's preferred method of attacks. She uses her powers to do things such as: tearing a man's heart in half, sucking the air out of another man's lungs, and her special favorite, bursting a man's testicles. Does not explain what powers
  2. Characters.Dragonlance: Commented out ZCE
  3. Characters.Final Fantasy 1: See All Your Powers Combined. "See X" ZCE
  4. Characters.Friendship Is Magic Twilight Sparkle: She has several of them thanks to her status as a Red Mage but most of them are non-weaponized spell versions. Does not explain what powers
  5. Characters.I Left The A Rank Party: As an elementor, she wields element based magic. Does not explain what powers
  6. Characters.Namco X Capcom: None of them have adequate context.
    1. Both cover almost the entire spectrum.
    2. She can use magic on foes too far off for Gil to hit.
    3. Both cover almost the entire spectrum.
  7. Characters.Super Smash Bros 456 To 59: The tomes allow them to invoke several elemental magic attacks. Partial context
  8. ComicBook.Ythaq: Commented out ZCE
  9. Literature.Please Bully Me Miss Villainess: Elsa is considered a prodigy because she can use all five elements, while the average magic user can only use one. Just "someone uses elements" with no explanation
  10. Literature.Exhuman: Athan, obviously, but it is hinted that this is fairly common among Exhumans, such as in chapter 13, Blackett pulling up a file on a hydrokinetic or Athan mentioning a dynakinetic in chapter 10. Barely any context
  11. Literature.The Riddle Master Trilogy: Hereditary in humans and highly developed in the Shape-changers. Magic doesn't seem to be limited to one particular element, but some characters specialize. Barely any context
  12. Literature.Zodiac Academy: All Fae possess the ability to control at least one element. Partial context
  13. MorphicResonance.Anime And Manga: Digimon Frontier has Susanoomon, the combined form and Mind Hive of all ten Legendary Warriors. It has Agunimon's blue eyes and red Facial Markings. Chained sinkhole
  14. Pinball.Flash: Just lists the trope
  15. Roleplay.Aradis Chronicles: Gaians and Half-Gaians are naturals at this. Commented out
  16. Roleplay.Crystalwatchers Magical Girl Quest: Very common, and previously believed by the other races to be the basis of all magic, until humanity showed otherwise.Commented out ZCE
  17. Series.Every Witch Way: Curb-Stomp Battle: Andi trying to take on Mia by herself results in this: Being a Badass Normal does not automatically make you a match for someone who has been training her whole life to master her Elemental Powers. Andi ends up frozen in a block of ice. Context does not say whether there were other elements
  18. VideoGame.Arcana Heart: In addition to the characters' standard attacks, the Arcana grant additional powers to the Maidens, and can be used interchangeably by anyone.note  Partial context
  19. WesternAnimation.The Mask: Tempest in "Rain of Terror" and "Convention of Evil". ZCE
     Only one element ( 7 out of 67) 
They should probably be moved to the appropriate trope...
  1. Characters.Axe Cop: Fire Slicer can control...well, guess.
  2. Characters.Frozen Elsa: Cope by Creating: After Elsa escapes Arendelle, she creates a beautiful ice palace both to test her Elemental Powers and to release her pent-up emotions. She is singing "Let It Go" as it forms around her.
  3. Characters.Kid Icarus The Forces Of Nature: Rock and melted rock
  4. Literature.The Crocodile God: Insistent Terminology: Haik is adamant on this, implied to be because gods are sensitive to what things mean. He notes that while some sources call him "sea-god" and "god of the sea" as if it's the same thing, he insists that there is only one "god of the sea" as the Anthropomorphic Personification of the Pacific Ocean. He emphasizes that he's a "sea-god," which means he's one of many deities with sea-based Elemental Powers. Likewise, he can't "see the future," but thanks to his and Mirasol's Reincarnation Romance, he "sees patterns."
  5. NegimaMagisterNegiMagi.Tropes D To F (re: Dark Is Not Evil): Shadow magic is the manipulation of shadows, no relationship to alignment. The three prominent users shown so far have included an antagonist that quickly became the protagonist's best friend, a friendly character mostly known for ending up embarrassedly disrobed and a Punch-Clock Villain bounty hunter who was simply doing his job.
  6. Recap.Mob Psycho 100 S 3 E 11 Mob 3: (re: MacGuffin) ???% spins up a tornado to deter anyone else from attacking the bouquet.
  7. Webcomic.Off White: The white spirit snow leopard summoned a snowstorm on a whim.
     Unclassifiable 
None.

Elements of Nature wick check:

Wicks Checked - 50
  • Linked to as an index: 1
  • Linked to as a trope to refer to the classical elements: 49
    • No mention of Elemental Powers or abilities: 28
    • Linked to characters using Elemental Powers or abilities: 16
    • ZCE but still being used as a trope to give an example of: 5

    Linked to as an index 

    Used as a trope to refer to the classical elements 

Elemental Powersnot mentioned or alluded to

Tied to characters using Elemental Powers or abilities

ZCE, still used as a trope in an example list

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 31st 2023 at 10:01:04 AM

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#1: May 20th 2023 at 6:50:52 AM

To-do list:

    Original post 
Note: This thread was proposed by Berrenta.

Elemental Powers is a super trope for powers that are attuned with the elements. I did a wick check as I noticed many cases of illegal subbullets (as in, subbulleting tropes, which is not allowed), and I wondered how bad it was. I also noticed in the check that it was used when a trope for the individual element could have been used instead.

The results:

  • Inline/no subbullets, yet valid: 20.83/67 = 31.1%
  • Subbullets that abide with policy: 7/67 = 10.4%
  • Subbullets that violate policy: 13.17/67 = 19.7%
  • Not enough context or other misuse: 19/67 = 28.4%
  • Single element: 7/67 = 10.4%

One suggestion is to make it an index, though a rename will help on top of that; otherwise, the misuse/bad subbullets will crop up again.

Elemental Powers wick check:

Wick check for Elemental Powers

The issue: Just like Five-Man Band before, this trope is often followed by subbulleted tropes, which is an example-writing violation. This check serves to see how widespread the problem is.

Checked: 67/67

     No subbullets, but still valid ( 20 5/ 6 out of 67) 
  1. It Runs on Nonsensoleum: Fighter survives a freefall by using his Knight abilities to block the ground. Fighter's "explanation" is that since he can block all sorts of elemental attacks, it's natural that he'd be able to block Earth.
  2. Anime.Samurai Pizza Cats: The Samurai Pizza Cats Rescue Team each represented one of these. Meowzma (Gotton) was earth, General Catton (Rikinoshin) was fire, Bat Cat (Mietoru) was wind, and Spritz T. Cat (Nekkii) was water. Similarly, the three of the four Rude Noise members each represent the elements: Cannonball Battery (Bonkaa) represents fire, Ronnie Geissmuller (Wokkaa) represent water, and Mojo Rojo (Rekkaa) represents wind. The lone exception is Bad Max (Zankaa), who represents the darkness.
  3. Characters.A Game Of Chance: The Promethians are an ancient magical race known for attaining absolute mastery over fire and lightning-based magics. Not so normal now, huh?
  4. Characters.A Geeks Guide Corporation Of Occult Research And Extermination: Mainly attacks using magic circles that blast opponents with fire, ice, or lightning.
  5. Characters.Bloodstained Ritual Of The Night (1/3): Her sub-weapons allow her to use a variety of elemental abilities, such as lightning orbs that cling to the ceiling, and wind funnels that shoot forward and then climb up. She can also fire seeds that sprout from the ground to give health powerups.
  6. Characters.Encantadia: Four-Element Ensemble: The four of them are the keepers of the Gems of Air, Fire, Water and Earth, and have powers related to their respective element.
  7. Characters.Fire Emblem Warriors:
    1. Like Robin, Leo is able to use many spells of different elements, be they fire, thunder, wind, light, or darkness.
    2. The tome he carries for this game allows him to use more than one element this time around, Thunder, Fire, Wind, Darkness, and Light, and he can even combine them together to form a giant ball in his Pair Up Special. He still favors Thunder Magic, however.
    3. Linde can use light, wind, ice, lightning, and fire in her attacks.
    4. In her special attacks, where she tends to use more elements than just light, including fire, thunder, and wind.
    5. Like every magic user confirmed to use a tome, Validar has access to any element and spell that he could possibly want.
  8. Characters.Hecksing Ulumate Crconikals: It can shoot fire, electricity, poison, and... water. It later adds explosives after merging itself with Alucard's tank.
  9. Characters.Maken Ki Protagonists: Kagezuchi (her fire elemental) and Igazuchi (lightning elemental) are the two she most relies on in battle. But, if need be, she can also summon Nozuchi (her earth elemental) who has power over trees, plants, and has the ability to heal her. Himegami is so adept with them that she's rarely ever had to use her Maken.
  10. Characters.Okami: Each head has its own element: fire, water, wind, earth, lightning, poison, light, and darkness.
  11. Characters.Pokemon The Series Team Rocket Trio: Among the many Pokémon he has owned, his three most common types are Grass, Poison and Psychic.
  12. Characters.Ralph Breaks The Internet: During the climax, Moana and Ariel demonstrate some control over water, Pocahontas has some control over wind, and Elsa has her ice powers.
  13. Characters.Twitch Plays Pokemon Fire Red (1/2): Tri Attack, a mashup of Fire, Ice and Electricity (which results in a Normal attack, somehow).
  14. GranblueFantasy.Tropes D To H: Characters come in one of six elements, Fire, Wind, Earth, Water, Light and Dark.
  15. Literature.Iron Widow: The mecha each have specialties based on the five Chinese elements: fire, earth, metal, water, and wood. Wood types are the most conductive of qi and have the highest transformation potential, fire types can channel qi into powerful blasts, etc. Different pilots have different specialties too, with Zetian specializing in metal (control and precision), and Shimin in fire (power and destruction).
  16. Literature.Roll Over And Die: Most people in this world are born with an affinity for magic of one of the six elements: water, fire, earth, air, light and darkness. Some people, however, are born with rare affinities that grant them different kinds of magic.
  17. Manga.Omamori Himari: Besides Shizuku, there's also Yuuto and Kuesu, and some (though not all) other demon slayer clans have elemental powers as well.
  18. Myth.Beti Pahuin Mythology: Nkoum Akok Ndong Bibang of the thorn tribe fought against Engouang Ondo with sunlight, rain, and fire as weapons.
  19. NoodleIncident.Webcomics: Sleepless Domain: The members of Team Alchemical can all use their respective Elemental Powers to achieve something close enough to flight — with the exception of Alchemical Fire. The alt text at one point notes that she had once tried using her fire abilities as a jetboot, but "never again."
  20. Recap.Charmed S 1 E 15 Is There A Woogy In The House: (re: Early-Installment Weirdness) The Nexus is revealed to be equidistant from five elements, but they use the five Taoist elements (water, fire, wood, metal and earth). Any time Elemental Powers show up in the series, it's the four classical ones (earth, air, fire and water).
  21. Roleplay.You Won A Mansion: Each of the masters have a sort of associated element. Nick is Lightning, Crowley's main is Fire, Kiven is Wind, Masters is Chaos, and Jason is Star.
  22. Series.Eastwick: So far, Kat has electrocuted her husband with a lightning strike and frozen a swimming pool solid. She then also almost kills her ex's date with a gust of wind.
     Legal subbullets ( 7 out of 67) 
To preserve space, just display the first level item.
  1. Characters.Carnival Mirror: Each character with a Persona or Marionette specializes in a particular element. Three distinct examples that are aided by potholes to denote tropes
  2. JustForFun.Sonic And The Imperial Regalia: Tropes are listed, but they follow the characters being listed. They could use more context, though.
  3. Manga.Angel Sanctuary
  4. Manhwa.Witch Hunter: Two distinct examples that do not rely on tropes
  5. MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.Tropes E To K: Two distinct examples that do not rely on tropes
  6. Pokemon.Tropes A To I: 18 of them! Tropes are listed, but they follow the types being listed
  7. VideoGame.Disciples: All factions tend to focus on 1 or 2 of the following: Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Death, Life, Mind and Weapon (the last is less an Element than it is the absence of an element, it is used for most Unit's melee/archery attacks). The following subbullets do not rely on trope wicks.
     Illegal subbullets ( 13 1/ 6 out of 67) 
To preserve space, just display the first level item (if any). If there are multiple wicks, say how many would fit under this category.
  1. Characters.Astral Disaster
  2. Characters.Bloodstained Ritual Of The Night: 2 instances (out of 3)
  3. Characters.Delicious In Dungeon Monsters: Overlaps with Breath Weapon:
  4. Characters.Dragons Crown: 2 instances (out of 2)
  5. Characters.The Saints: More so than anyone else.
  6. Characters.Twitch Plays Pokemon Fire Red: 1 instance (out of 2)
  7. LetsPlay.Versus: The starter pokemon that were chosen.
  8. Manga.Zatch Bell: Plenty of variety across the demons shown:
  9. Manga.Zettai Shoujo Seiiki Amnesian: Commented out
  10. Roleplay.Personifications
  11. TabletopGame.Axiom Campaign: King Van'Derrick's sisters.
  12. VideoGame.Bomberman: Done liberally in The Second Attack!, Generation, and Jetters.
  13. VideoGame.Eitr: Certain items during the demo had elemental effects.
  14. Webcomic.Panthera: Duh?
     ZCE/misuse ( 19 out of 67) 
  1. Body Horror.Webcomics: In Pacificators, this is Nozomi's preferred method of attacks. She uses her powers to do things such as: tearing a man's heart in half, sucking the air out of another man's lungs, and her special favorite, bursting a man's testicles. Does not explain what powers
  2. Characters.Dragonlance: Commented out ZCE
  3. Characters.Final Fantasy 1: See All Your Powers Combined. "See X" ZCE
  4. Characters.Friendship Is Magic Twilight Sparkle: She has several of them thanks to her status as a Red Mage but most of them are non-weaponized spell versions. Does not explain what powers
  5. Characters.I Left The A Rank Party: As an elementor, she wields element based magic. Does not explain what powers
  6. Characters.Namco X Capcom: None of them have adequate context.
    1. Both cover almost the entire spectrum.
    2. She can use magic on foes too far off for Gil to hit.
    3. Both cover almost the entire spectrum.
  7. Characters.Super Smash Bros 456 To 59: The tomes allow them to invoke several elemental magic attacks. Partial context
  8. ComicBook.Ythaq: Commented out ZCE
  9. Literature.Please Bully Me Miss Villainess: Elsa is considered a prodigy because she can use all five elements, while the average magic user can only use one. Just "someone uses elements" with no explanation
  10. Literature.Exhuman: Athan, obviously, but it is hinted that this is fairly common among Exhumans, such as in chapter 13, Blackett pulling up a file on a hydrokinetic or Athan mentioning a dynakinetic in chapter 10. Barely any context
  11. Literature.The Riddle Master Trilogy: Hereditary in humans and highly developed in the Shape-changers. Magic doesn't seem to be limited to one particular element, but some characters specialize. Barely any context
  12. Literature.Zodiac Academy: All Fae possess the ability to control at least one element. Partial context
  13. MorphicResonance.Anime And Manga: Digimon Frontier has Susanoomon, the combined form and Mind Hive of all ten Legendary Warriors. It has Agunimon's blue eyes and red Facial Markings. Chained sinkhole
  14. Pinball.Flash: Just lists the trope
  15. Roleplay.Aradis Chronicles: Gaians and Half-Gaians are naturals at this. Commented out
  16. Roleplay.Crystalwatchers Magical Girl Quest: Very common, and previously believed by the other races to be the basis of all magic, until humanity showed otherwise.Commented out ZCE
  17. Series.Every Witch Way: Curb-Stomp Battle: Andi trying to take on Mia by herself results in this: Being a Badass Normal does not automatically make you a match for someone who has been training her whole life to master her Elemental Powers. Andi ends up frozen in a block of ice. Context does not say whether there were other elements
  18. VideoGame.Arcana Heart: In addition to the characters' standard attacks, the Arcana grant additional powers to the Maidens, and can be used interchangeably by anyone.note  Partial context
  19. WesternAnimation.The Mask: Tempest in "Rain of Terror" and "Convention of Evil". ZCE
     Only one element ( 7 out of 67) 
They should probably be moved to the appropriate trope...
  1. Characters.Axe Cop: Fire Slicer can control...well, guess.
  2. Characters.Frozen Elsa: Cope by Creating: After Elsa escapes Arendelle, she creates a beautiful ice palace both to test her Elemental Powers and to release her pent-up emotions. She is singing "Let It Go" as it forms around her.
  3. Characters.Kid Icarus The Forces Of Nature: Rock and melted rock
  4. Literature.The Crocodile God: Insistent Terminology: Haik is adamant on this, implied to be because gods are sensitive to what things mean. He notes that while some sources call him "sea-god" and "god of the sea" as if it's the same thing, he insists that there is only one "god of the sea" as the Anthropomorphic Personification of the Pacific Ocean. He emphasizes that he's a "sea-god," which means he's one of many deities with sea-based Elemental Powers. Likewise, he can't "see the future," but thanks to his and Mirasol's Reincarnation Romance, he "sees patterns."
  5. NegimaMagisterNegiMagi.Tropes D To F (re: Dark Is Not Evil): Shadow magic is the manipulation of shadows, no relationship to alignment. The three prominent users shown so far have included an antagonist that quickly became the protagonist's best friend, a friendly character mostly known for ending up embarrassedly disrobed and a Punch-Clock Villain bounty hunter who was simply doing his job.
  6. Recap.Mob Psycho 100 S 3 E 11 Mob 3: (re: MacGuffin) ???% spins up a tornado to deter anyone else from attacking the bouquet.
  7. Webcomic.Off White: The white spirit snow leopard summoned a snowstorm on a whim.
     Unclassifiable 
None.

Elements of Nature wick check:

Wicks Checked - 50
  • Linked to as an index: 1
  • Linked to as a trope to refer to the classical elements: 49
    • No mention of Elemental Powers or abilities: 28
    • Linked to characters using Elemental Powers or abilities: 16
    • ZCE but still being used as a trope to give an example of: 5

    Linked to as an index 

    Used as a trope to refer to the classical elements 

Elemental Powersnot mentioned or alluded to

Tied to characters using Elemental Powers or abilities

ZCE, still used as a trope in an example list

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 31st 2023 at 10:01:04 AM

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#2: May 20th 2023 at 6:51:55 AM

Paging ~Berrenta to the thread. Anyway, I don't have a problem with turning it into an index and renaming it; maybe making it definition-only (while still keeping its supertrope status) would be another possibility.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 20th 2023 at 8:52:32 AM

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#3: May 20th 2023 at 7:00:06 AM

Could always go for a def-only supertrope-index combo tongue

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#4: May 20th 2023 at 7:31:30 AM

Since most elemental powers are covered by Single Substance Manipulation:

Index + Definition Only

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#5: May 20th 2023 at 7:47:00 AM

I'm good with the Definition-only supertrope idea.

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#8: May 20th 2023 at 8:58:23 AM

Will there be a trope where examples of "character who can manipulate multiple elements" or "a group whose members each have a different elemental power" can go under?

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#9: May 20th 2023 at 9:11:42 AM

[up]Those sound sufficiently distinct enough to be separate subtropes regardless of what we do with Elemental Powers itself.

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#10: May 20th 2023 at 10:10:12 AM

[up][up] we have Four-Element Ensemble, Fire, Water, Wind, Land, Sea, Sky, Fire, Ice, Lightning which can be used for groups in which the members are all elemental users of one of the listed tropes. I suppose a supertrope for any elemental groups that don't fall under these would be fine, but I agree that it would be a separate trope. As for the master of all elements, I think Master of All covers that. Avatar: The Last Airbender is already listed as an example there.

Outside of that [tup] to index + def only supertrope

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#11: May 20th 2023 at 11:32:44 AM

What might catch a lot of the "general" usage is a "setting-specific superpowers" trope, e.g. in the world of Tropetasia you can either have fire, water, or earth powers. Do we have such a thing (though I suppose it needn't be limited to elemental powers).

[down]Not necessarily, though it'd probably go on the index. They wouldn't have to be grouped, nor does Elemental Nation actually need such powers (just motifs). The Naruto image doesn't.

Edited by Synchronicity on May 20th 2023 at 1:51:22 PM

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#13: May 20th 2023 at 11:43:47 AM

You can also, of course, simply list all the tropes associated with a character's powers, like normal. We also have tropes like Superpower Lottery and Combo Platter Powers.

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#14: May 20th 2023 at 1:37:23 PM

Sorry, but I'm for the trope name remaining as is. If it's got to become an index (which I'm also not in favor of) fine, but leave the name alone. What else would you call an ability over the elements?

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#15: May 20th 2023 at 2:40:00 PM

Yeah, don't change the name.

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#16: May 20th 2023 at 8:58:39 PM

[up][up]Could be wrong but I think the name change was more to indicate that the new page is an index than to radically alter it. The goal of the name change is to prevent people from still thinking it's a trope if it gets changed into an index/def-only. I don't think it would be anything crazier than Elemental Powers Index.

That said, that will only really work if the old name gets disambig'd or cut, since indices still appear like blue links. I'm neutral on a name change for that reason.

Edited by amathieu13 on May 20th 2023 at 11:58:58 AM

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#17: May 20th 2023 at 9:44:06 PM

The old name would definitely need some wick-monitoring after the fact, yeah. It took Your Cheating Heart a couple of years and a lot of not-a-trope notifiers to stop accruing wicks.

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#18: May 21st 2023 at 4:22:13 AM

Is it possible to just keep the broader examples of characters controlling the elements? If a single character has the ability to control one of the element, fine, that can go on its regular page. But for examples were elemental powers are the norm/more common, and widespread, like A:TLA or Logias from One Piece, can they stay?

Edited by Eddy1215 on May 21st 2023 at 7:22:34 AM

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#19: May 21st 2023 at 4:28:32 AM

[up]See my earlier comment, Synch's comment, and WarJay's comment.

Speaking of Synch's comment, Synch, Elemental Nation actually is for the worldbuilding aspect. Naruto is used as the trope pic, but it's notably a subversion as described in its entry. The pic is just being used for demonstration purposes.

Edited by amathieu13 on May 21st 2023 at 7:36:54 AM

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#20: May 21st 2023 at 4:30:40 AM

I don't think we have a fitting trope for "everyone in the world has capabilities for one type of primary magic", Everyone Is a Super is the closest.

Edited by Amonimus on May 21st 2023 at 2:30:48 PM

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#21: May 21st 2023 at 4:34:34 AM

[up]I think Everyone Is a Super is that trope for general magic/powers. See the second to last paragraph:

Do note that this isn't for settings where superpowers are unusually common, or where everyone of note has superpowers, but where you could honestly expect unimportant, unnamed characters to whip out superpowers, and where that superpower use is not considered unusual or noteworthy. It does, however, include fantasy settings where everyone possesses a basic capacity for magic, even if they never train in or use it (as mere bystanders could be capable of at least basic magic, and "wizard" might be as common a career choice as "shopkeeper").

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#22: May 21st 2023 at 4:39:14 AM

[up] I did read that but thought it's not quite a mix of One Person, One Power I had in mind.

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#23: May 21st 2023 at 4:47:47 AM

[up]I'm not quite sure what you have in mind, but I think for the concept of "everyone in the setting has elemental powers" between Elemental Nation, Everyone Is a Super, and One Person, One Power, the idea is well covered. It just depends on how it's set up.

  • Elemental Nation: The world is divided into ethnic groups where each nation has an innate magical affinity for an element
  • Everyone Is a Super: In this setting, everyone has innate magical ability/superpower aptitude to the point of mundanity
  • One Person, One Power: In this setting, everyone has a single, unique superpower/magical ability

Edited by amathieu13 on May 21st 2023 at 7:48:30 AM

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#24: May 21st 2023 at 5:11:10 PM

So, are there any questions left?

I'm seeing 7 votes for Index-ing.

If we really don't have a trope for "Everyone has (a) power(s)" in the way that Tropers/Amonimus means, we / he can just toss it on the Salvage Yard by gathering examples of what should fit and then condensing a trope idea into existence?

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#25: May 21st 2023 at 11:34:18 PM

If Elemental Powers is becoming an index, how is it different from Elements of Nature?

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Consensus was to rename Elements Of Nature and convert the page from an index into a supertrope for the concept of elements. What sould Elements Of Nature's new name be?

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