Dramatically Missing The Point / Fan Works

In-Universe Examples Only:

Times where somebody dramatically missed the point in Fan Works.

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Crossovers

• #8024 centers around Marinette being framed as Hawkmoth's "accomplice" and shipped off to Arkham Asylum. Naturally, this results in her alter ego Ladybug mysteriously disappearing at the same time as her arrest. Adrien comes to the conclusion that Ladybug must have gone into hiding because she was afraid Marinette would expose her Secret Identity. Even worse, he proceeds to confront her and attempt to force that information out due to his sense of entitlement to "his lady", completely missing the point of having secret identities in the first place.
• Stoick rationalizes Hiccup leaving Berk in The Dragon and the Butterfly as just some good ole' teenage rebellion and that by the time he finds him, they can kill the Night Fury as a bonding exercise and things will go back to the way they were. When Stoick tries to apologize, he botches it completely when he offers to help him kill Toothless.
• In The Havoc Side of the Force, Jedi Master Ki-Adi-Mundi hears that for all the problems his arrival caused, pretty much everyone who actually talks to Harry Potter agrees that he's a decent if mischievous fellow. Mundi decides that Harry's brainwashing and enslaving them, including two Jedi Masters (Sinube and Qui-Gon Jinn), just by meeting them. Later chapters reveal that Anakin's harmless prank of staining Ki Adi's head is causing a chemical reaction that increases his paranoia.
• In Hell Is a Martial Artist, Hild goes from manipulating Ranma for her own amusement to genuinely caring about him and once he hits the Despair Event Horizon, she rewrites reality to make him her son. Urd, unable to see any good in her mother, drives herself up the wall trying to figure out her mother's angle and notes that even if she sent the request from Nidhogg, it'd still require Yggdrasil's approval and comes to the conclusion that Yggdrasil's been hacked, rather than realizing that God agreed with Hild.
• Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail:
  • When Chloe confronts Goh and her father about how their obsession with Pokémon and obliviousness to her feelings have made her feel neglected and left behind, Goh lashes out in return in a way that only strengthens her stance. Specifically, he declares that his quest to find Mew has given him a Goal in Life that she lacks, unintentionally implying that her lack of interest in Pokémon is, in fact, a critical flaw in his eyes.
  • Similarly, Professor Cerise starts praising Chloe for battling Ash... but that makes Chloe feel like her father will only notice her if she gets involved with Pokémon.
  • When Atticus asks Chloe why she can't get along with Ash if their Pokémon can, she replies that there's no way for them to be friends since Ash already has Goh. Not only does it cause her number to go back to where it was before, she starts blaming Ash for causing that.
  • Even with Chloe spelling out her issues with both of them directly during her big blow-up, both Goh and her father still struggle with understanding what's eating her. Goh naively believes that they just need to find her to fix everything, while her father gradually backslides as he finds other things to blame her running away on.
  • When Parker suggests that Chloe's interest in horror runs along the same lines of his father's interest in researching Pokémon, Professor Cerise completely blows him off.
  • When Chloe finally responds to Goh's texts, she explains to him that she can't leave the Train yet — and even if she could, she's not ready to return home and is tired of trying to fix their friendship. Goh responds by begging her to come back, completely ignoring everything she's saying... and when she asks him to pass on some messages for her, eagerly asks if she'll come back after he does that for her.
• In Neither a Bird nor a Plane, it's Deku!, Izuku discovers his Kryptonian Super-Strength a little over an hour after being declared Quirkless. His sheer excitement over powers at all makes him forget that Quirks are inherited from one's parents. Thus it should be impossible for him to have superhuman strength since his parents have fire-breathing and the ability to attract small objects respectively. He only puts two together after his Super-Hearing manifests while his parents argue with Dr. Tsubasa in the hospital, forcing Inko and Hisashi to tell Izuku the truth about his origins.
• In A Phantom's Ghoul School Sweetheart, Phanty finds and reads Danny's unfinished note to her. While it was meant to explain that he wasn't interested, she misinterprets it as him being upset at not being able to see her anymore.
• Raise Yourselves Up (We're Done): After banning Marinette and Chloé from joining the rest of their classmates on their annual school trip, Miss Bustier sits back and does nothing to help Alya and the other students with their fundraising efforts. Near the end of the school year, Chloé asks a series of Armor-Piercing Questions that reveal just how unprepared the class is, including that Miss Bustier failed to submit any of the necessary paperwork for their passports, and it's far too late for them to get anything cleared in time. Despite this, Bustier tries to convince the pair to let them piggyback off of their travel plans, forcing Marinette and Chloé to explain that no, even if they were willing to bring everyone along, that doesn't solve the passport issue or any of the other arrangements that would be required.
• The Wedding Crashers: Typically, the point of having an outside wedding is to use the natural beauty of the surroundings. Instead, Renesmee's wedding plans mean that the wedding might as well have been held inside.

Arrowverse

• moral of the story (Nyame):
  • Essentially the divergence point of the story. Oliver intended his words to Laurel in the hallway to be a wake-up call that forced her to confront how she was making a lot of bad choices and needed to take responsibility for them instead of blaming others. Unfortunately, he said those words in such a hostile and abusive manner that Laurel interpreted them in an entirely different way than he intended, causing the situation to end in tragedy instead.
  • Oliver himself is also a victim of this, as he interpreted Laurel's outburst as an act of spite rather than what it really was: a desperate cry for help and a desire for proof that her family actually cared about her. It didn't help that he lacked context about the situation, namely the abuse Laurel's parents had been putting her through the past five years over Sara's death. When he finally gets all the information, he openly acknowledges that he should have never tried to force Laurel to reconcile with her family and that he would've handled Laurel's reunion with Sara very differently had he known.
  • As an attempt to reconcile with Laurel after her resurrection, a drunk Quentin tries to make Laurel his new favorite child and begins disparaging Sara instead. He fails to realize that this isn't what Laurel wanted at all; she just wanted her family, including Sara, to show that they cared about her too and to have her parents treat both of their daughters equally. Therefore, his actions have the exact opposite effect in that it just ends up driving Laurel further away from him.
• Wrong Road to the Right Place: After Dinah Lance confesses she let Sara get on the Gambit, she thinks Laurel's anger and pain is because Laurel blames her for Sara's death. Oliver needs to outright tell her that Laurel realizes Sara's death is not her fault, and she is angry because Dinah betrayed her.

Avatar: The Last Airbender

• In The Stalking Zuko Series this essentially sums up Aang's position on sparing Ozai, something that most of the characters and the author believe is a grave mistake. For example, after turning Ozai over to the Fire Nation to be imprisoned, Aang is honestly confused that Ozai isn't grateful to Aang for sparing his life.

Disgaea

• Wolf in the Streets, Sardine in the Sheets: Etna and Laharl quarrel over the latter's inability to understand why children like them would join a gang; she was a Street Urchin, while Laharl grew up in a more comfortable environment and still had his father's wealth to support him even after his passing. When Etna comments "Maybe you wouldn't get it, Prince, what it's like not having a family...", he asks what family has to do with it.

Fairy Tail

• In Another Chance, while most of the rest of Fairy Tail is attacking Lucy for hurting Lisanna, Natsu's confused as to why Gajeel, Juvia, Wendy and the Exceeds aren't helping out, especially Happy, given the history he and Natsu share with Lisanna. The point that Natsu's missing is that Lucy's the victim of a painfully obvious Wounded Gazelle Gambit by Lisanna, and if Makarov can smell the makeup that Lisanna is using to pretend to be injured, Natsu, as a Dragon Slayer with enhanced senses, should have been able to do so.

The Ghost and Molly McGee

• In An Unpleasant Surprise, Molly's reunion with her old friend Ashley turns sour when Ashley takes the news about her having a girlfriend poorly. Molly gives a passionate speech about how Libby makes her feel, only for Ashley to completely ignore all of that in favor of fixating upon a passing remark she'd made about how Ashley looked good without her glasses, making her fret that Molly was attracted to her now. Molly declares that she is not, nor will ever be, attracted to her. Missing her friend's mounting frustrations and how she's losing her respect, Ashley sighs with relief, declaring there's still hope for Molly to turn straight again. Molly then tells her off and hangs up.

Harry Potter

• Princess of the Blacks:
  • The Weasley twins react to Madam Marchbanks being made temporary headmistress the same way they took Umbridge Canonically taking that position. Unfortunately for them, Dumbledore was arrested for legitimate crimes here rather than trumped-up charges.
  • Lupin assumed that Tonks was interested in him due to his being a werewolf, since All Girls Want Bad Boys. In reality, she liked his "bookish nervousness", but his claiming to be "too dangerous" for her killed her interest.
• In Sorting Sideways, the Sorting Hat is worried students are more focused on trying to fit into the House they want rather than finding a House that fits them. So he deliberately sorts an entire year into the House that represents what they most lack and/or need. For example, Hermione lacks humility and Draco doesn't see the value of hard work so both are sent to Hufflepuff. Meanwhile, Ron wants to prove himself but is daunted by his brothers' accomplishments so being in Slytherin will help him to greatness, though not easily. And Harry is sent to Ravenclaw because he has it in himself to be studious, but he quits trying as Dursleys bullied him if he got marks better than Dudley.

Hetalia: Axis Powers

• In This Is Justice, England berates America for being childish and throwing a tantrum by rebelling — when the younger Nation actually wants to grow up and gain independence but is painfully aware that England will keep infantilizing him since he cannot see America as more than a colony.

The Loud House

• No Such Luck, No Such Love:
  • At first, most of the Louds don't recognize how their behavior has been impacting Lincoln. Even as he grows increasingly distant, they fail to make the connection between their casual cruelty and disregard and his disaffection.
  • When Lynn Jr. finds out that the team she lost against cheated, she finally realizes that this means she made Lincoln's life miserable for no real reason. However, she's the only member of the family (aside from Lincoln himself) who believes they mistreated him due to bad luck, rather than punishing him for lying about being unlucky.

Love Hina

• An Alternate Keitaro Urashima:
  • Despite being repeatedly called out for her attempts to manipulate everyone around her, Granny Hinata refuses to acknowledge that she might be going about things the wrong way. Instead, she insists that everyone who isn't going along with her scheming is in the wrong.
  • Naru and Makoto similarly blame Keitaro for everything bad that results from their own actions.
  • Haruka goes through this while dealing with the lawsuit, getting righteously furious at every issue that's raised. She eventually gets better about this after losing the teahouse.
• For His Own Sake:
  • At first, none of the Hinata Girls recognize that Keitaro left the Hinata Inn due to their misbehavior and mistreatment of him.
  • Every time she's called out on her behavior, Granny Hina insists that everyone should just listen to her and do what she wants, missing how her manipulative methods are what's causing the problems. By the time that finally sinks in for her, it's too late; she's lost all her power and influence and can no longer make amends.
  • Mutsumi spends the entirety of the story insisting that Keitaro and Naru can repair their relationship despite both repeatedly making clear that they want nothing more to do with each other. Even when faced with increasingly blatant evidence that Naru is only going along with her plan in hopes of getting her hands on Keitaro and beating the shit out of him again, as well as the fact that her "new friends" have ulterior motives for helping her out, Mutsumi simply refuses to catch a clue until her nominal allies are so enraged by her idiocy that they call her out on it.

Miraculous Ladybug

• In the 'Adrien version' of NeutralMime's Chameleon: alternate ending, Marinette reveals to Adrien that Lila threatened her in the bathroom and that it nearly caused her to get akumatized. Adrien responds to this with delight, declaring that the fact she was able to get away from the butterfly proves that she's strong enough to handle things without them needing to expose how Lila's been lying to everyone.
• In the first ending of Cracks Are All It Takes to Shatter, Marinette dies after her classmates fail to notice that she's been akumatized into a porcelain doll for months, breaking apart when Alya rips her sketchbook apart. A Video Will is discovered where Marinette revealed her Secret Identity as Ladybug and declared that, if anything happened to her, she wanted Alya to replace her. Rather than recognizing how badly she wronged her former best friend, Alya fixates on the idea that she gets to be the new Ladybug, smiling through her tears. This outrages Chat Noir enough that he furiously attacks her, screaming about how "You're the reason we need a new Ladybug!"
• Dad Villain AU: Adrien reveals to his mother that he's been haunted by strange dreams in which she was no longer part of his life, confessing that he misses the friends he recalls making in said dreams. Rather than recognizing just how desperately lonely and isolated her son is, Emelie blithely declares that "At least you woke up!", proceeding to make things all about herself by declaring that it's only natural Adrien would be miserable without her:
  Emelie: I'm sure you only felt lonely in that dream because I wasn't in it, Adrien. I'm your mother, if I wasn't here, of course you would need a lot of friends to make up for it! Luckily I'm here to stay! I can't imagine what you would do without me.
• Exposed: Alya posts a video of Marinette transforming into Ladybug on her blog, revealing her Secret Identity to the world. The next day, she ambushes her at school and they get into an argument where she repeatedly fails to comprehend just why Marinette is so furious with her. No matter how much Marinette stresses just how much she's endangered her and her loved ones, Alya continues to insist that everything will be fine.
• Fashion Upgrade: When Bustier's class tells Mendeleiv's class that they'll be doing a fashion show, Marinette is stunned speechless. Among the members of Bustier's class, only Adrien and Lila pick up on the fact that Marinette isn't speechless from excitement, but because she's having a panic attack. Luckily, Mendeleiev's class is more perceptive. They quickly hustle Marinette back to their classroom and work together to calm her down with hugs and blankets.
• Feralnette AU:
  • Alya gets three of these in rapid succession during the Enough Rope arc right after witnessing Marinette resist akumatization:
    • Firstly, she ignores how her 'best friend' is suffering and Lila's insistence that they should escape in favor of snapping pics for her Ladyblog, gushing about what a fantastic scoop this is.
    • When Chat Noir and Ladybug react hostilely to Lila accusing Marinette of working with Hawkmoth despite having just witnessed her fighting off his influence, Alya leaps to her defense, claiming that it's just her "lying disease" acting up and that she's not actually doing any harm.
    • When Ladybug then spells out for her just how her thoughtlessness has endangered everyone at the fair, her immediate takeaway is to fret about her reputation taking a hit rather than recognizing her mistakes.
  • The following arc, Even a Worm will Turn, reveals that Alya completely misinterpreted Ladybug's request. Ladybug wanted her to prove that she's capable of researching her stories before posting them online; Alya decides instead to focus on live footage. When Chat Noir directly calls her out on how her increased recklessness is endangering not only herself but everyone around her, Alya angrily doubles down, insisting that she needs to talk to LADYBUG about everything — and that the only way to do so is by forcibly inserting herself into the equation despite being warned to back off.
  • Alya does this yet again during Birds of a Feather. Lila hounds Marinette about what after-school activities Felix has, ignoring her insistence on maintaining that pesky little thing called 'privacy' and claiming that their reluctance to share such 'harmless secrets' means that they must be hiding something. Marinette bluntly asks her when the last time she had her period was, echoing Lila's claim that there must be something she's hiding if she won't share such a 'harmless secret'. Rather than conceding the point, Alya scolds her for upsetting Lila.
    • Alya also manages to combine this with Right for the Wrong Reasons when she turns on Lila. Instead of calling her out on being a Manipulative Bastard who just attempted to exploit Felix being binary by threatening to Blackmail them, she accuses her of being a Stalker with a Crush. Her callout is also massively hypocritical, unintentionally highlighting all of her blind spots.
  • After Rose learns that Felix is in a ballet troupe, Marinette, Kagami, and Felix all make clear to her that they don't want Lila to know. The troupe serves as a safe space for Felix, and they don't want the manipulative Attention Whore finding out about it, especially after she already tried blackmailing them earlier. Rose's response is to insist that "Lila really isn't like that, guys!", and Felix catches her texting Lila shortly afterwards. He then calls her out for completely ignoring their wishes, accusing her of being a Fair-Weather Friend to Marinette.
  • Miss Bustier notices Marinette having a panic attack and requests that she see her after class, intending to scold her for making a scene, not getting enough rest, and not "setting a good example". Felix hustles her out before Bustier can corner her; the teacher's takeaway is to wonder "Am I really such an unapproachable teacher these days?"
  • When Marinette calls out Bunnyx for acting like her experiences don't matter because she's not the same as her Marinette, Bunnyx insists that "We can fix this!" Marinette then asks why, if she cares so much about helping her, she won't reveal Hawkmoth's Secret Identity; Bunnyx refuses, as that's not how things went in her timeline and that's the only one she cares about.
• From Ashes to Embers: Chat Noir misses three different akuma attacks over the course of one weekend. When Ladybug finally gets a chance to confront him about this, he defensively declares "Well, sorry I wasn't there! But this just proves how much you need me, bugaboo!" Frustrated, Ladybug counters that this proves she doesn't need him, bluntly reminding him that she's not some helpless damsel in distress. Chat Noir then concludes that this just means he can focus on flirting with her rather than actually fighting akumas.
• Hold on 'til May: When Marinette calls out Alya on blindly believing Lila over her, pointing out that she never expects Lila to present her with any evidence that her Blatant Lies are real while rejecting her Cassandra Truths, Alya retorts that her "outburst" just makes her even more inclined to trust Lila.
• I See What You Do Behind Closed Doors features a Switching P.O.V., with each chapter told from the perspective of a different character. The chapter after Lila is exposed is viewed through the eyes of Ms. Bustier, who expects Marinette to step in and mediate the situation like usual. As Marinette instead calls her classmates out for dismissing all her warnings, making clear that she will not easily forgive them this time, Ms. Bustier grows increasingly confused, trying to explain away the "oddities" in her behavior by telling herself that Marinette is trying a different approach. Ultimately, she reassures herself that "this will all blow over", despite all evidence to the contrary.
• The Karma of Lies:
  • Due to his Lack of Empathy, Adrien fails to understand why Marinette is so upset to learn that their friends/classmates are donating all the clothes she made for them to one of Lila's Fake Charity drives. He promptly 'reassures' her that "They're just clothes!" and that she can easily make more.
    • Marinette also tells him point-blank that his insistence that Lila's deception isn't hurting anyone is wrong, as she's being hurt. Adrien just smiles and "reassures" her that she's strong enough to handle it, completely ignoring how she just stated otherwise.
  • When Plagg tries to explain to Adrien that not everyone is as rich as the Agrestes and his classmates might not be able to replace the things Lila swindles away from them, Adrien blithely declares that they'd never give up anything they can't afford to lose.
  • After Marinette is publicly exposed as Ladybug during the Final Battle with Hawkmoth, the Dupain-Chengs spend some time in a secret location in order to avoid being swarmed by the press and Paparazzi. Alya attempts to invite herself over to a "sleepover with her bestie"; despite Marinette repeatedly rejecting her, she never catches on to the notion that she's precisely the sort of person the Dupain-Chengs don't want knowing where they are.
  • Marinette tells Adrien quite bluntly that "I can't love someone who let Lila do what she did to me." Somehow, Adrien convinces himself that what that really means is that she's envious of his Fake Relationship with Lila and that if he can just let the Consummate Liar down gently, he'll be free to immediately start dating Marinette.
  • Chat Noir has a disastrous interview wherein Ladybug spells out that she's never been interested in him, and only endured his unwanted advances for fear of one of them getting akumatized. He also turns the public against him by callously underplaying how much Hawkmoth terrorized Paris, dismissing the fact that he failed to show up to the Final Battle and insulting the heroes who were there. Afterwards, he complains to Plagg that Ladybug should have tried harder to let him know that she wasn't interested (despite her repeatedly telling him just that and going ignored), and acts as though the public is being ungrateful for everything he did for them.
  • Plagg spends much of the work desperately trying to explain to Adrien that Ladybug's victory against Hawkmoth is unleashing Laser-Guided Karma, and that if Adrien continues trying to shield Lila and Gabriel from the consequences of their actions, he risks being hit by karma instead. Adrien repeatedly dismisses his warnings and only comes around to the concept when he realizes that karma gives him a handy-dandy scapegoat for why things mysteriously aren't going his way. After all, it couldn't possibly be connected to anything he has or hasn't done, right?
• Leave for Mendeleiev:
  • Adrien/Chat Noir has this problem. No matter how many times it's explained to him how dangerous it would be for him to know Ladybug's Secret Identity — and that Ladybug neither wants him to know nor is interested in any of his 'romantic advances' — he refuses to stop trying, insisting that it will all be fine because they're 'meant to be together'.
  • After Lady Wifi mistakenly 'exposes' Chloé as Ladybug, Adrien doesn't understand why Ladybug keeps insisting that's not true. On top of taunting her with the idea that everyone knows who she is now, he gets annoyed when she ducks into a closet to detransform and stands outside, insisting that she doesn't have to keep up the pretense of hiding her identity and that it's 'safe' to show him who she is... acting like she's the one being unreasonable for getting upset.
  • Even after being forced to recognize that she's not Chloé after all, he continues to insist that he doesn't know why the idea upsets her so much. When she spells out to him that Chloé is a Spoiled Brat Alpha Bitch who's always abusing her father's position as the mayor, and about as far away from hero material as you can get, he completely blows all of that off to focus on the idea that Ladybug unintentionally hinted that she knows Chloé.
  • Adrien's complete refusal to grasp the importance of keeping secret identities secret leads to him casually outing Lila's false identity as Volpina while she's being held hostage by Mime, utterly failing to see how he's just made the situation significantly worse.
  • When Ladybug stresses to him that relationships take time, effort, and mutual investment, he grasps her hand and tosses out a smarmy line about "Good thing we're already there," completely ignoring her complete disinterest in getting together with him.
• In Marigami Stories, everyone assumed that Marinette was with Kagami - or "the ice queen" as Alya calls her - as a form of payback for how the rest of them have been ignoring her for "mistreating" Lila.
• MiraculousWeirdo's collection of Miraculous Ladybug Salt-Shots offers several examples:
  • In Emotionless, Marinette declares in front of the whole class that her crush on Adrien is long gone. Adrien's immediate reaction is to ask "You have a crush on me?", completely missing the past tense. He then wonders why she doesn't still care about him, even while planning to lecture her about how disappointed he is that she exposed Lila's deception to everyone.
  • Love Isn't Something That's Deserved has a Dogged Nice Guy get akumatized after being rejected. Upon hearing his motives, Chat Noir actually agrees that he's entitled to have her, and that the girl's "likely just playing hard to get." When Ladybug confronts him after the fight and tries to explain to him that he's Loving a Shadow, not knowing the real her at all, he insists that just means they should reveal their secret identities to each other. The only thing that gives him pause is when Ladybug notes that she could be dating somebody in her civilian life, leading him to ask "Uh, are you?"
  • In What Makes You Think I Still Love You?, Chat Noir misses the Final Battle with Hawkmoth. When he learns that Ladybug and the other heroes defeated and unmasked him, revealing that he was Gabriel Agreste, he immediately detransforms and reveals that he's Adrien — and happily declares they can finally be together. He also doesn't understand why Marinette is so upset to learn that he deliberately ignored her feelings because he was crushing on — and harassing — her alter ego. He repeatedly addresses Marinette as Ladybug, even after she spells out that she never wanted to BE Ladybug in the first place and only stayed a superhero because Paris needed protection.
  • ...How Could You? features Marinette having a panic attack after Alya and Nino lock her and Adrien into a closet and pretend the place is being attacked. The pair then act incredibly smug when they open the door and see how Adrien is holding her, bragging about how they planned the whole thing and failing to grasp just why Adrien is furious with them both. Even when Adrien reminds them that he's currently dating Kagami, and Marinette reminds Alya that she told her she'd given up on her crush, Alya just condescendingly tells Marinette "It's not good to lie to yourself."
  • Maribug has rumors spread that Ladybug and Marinette are dating, which she goes along with. Adrien's sole takeaway from this is that he might still have a shot; when Ladybug gently tells him that she's already dating somebody, he replies "But you can break up with her!", not understanding why this isn't the selling point he clearly thinks it is.
  • A Price to Pay has Adrien betray Ladybug and help his father get the Miraculouses, expecting Gabriel's Wish to grant him everything he wants as well: his mother back and Marinette forced to love him. Turns out that the cost of the Wish was the life of Marinette's father... along with Gabriel's marriage: Tom Dupain-Cheng was killed in an accident, and Gabriel used his wealth to avoid being punished, only for Emilie to be so disgusted that she divorced him, along with disowning her son for his flagrant Lack of Empathy. On top of all this, Marinette also retained her memories of the original world, meaning she remembers how Adrien betrayed her... yet Adrien doesn't understand why she hates his guts.
• Lenore Raven's Murder Mystery: When Chloé walks in and hears Alix telling Marinette that she's practically the new Chloé, she immediately declares "She wishes. Dupain-Cheng being the new me? Ridiculous!" She completely misses how Alix didn't mean that as a compliment.
• The One to Make It Stay:
  • After the heroes have their memories temporarily erased by Oblivio, the amnesiac Chat Noir takes this as an opportunity to let Ladybug know that he's got a crush on her. However, he makes clear that he doesn't expect her to return his feelings, as both have every reason to believe she's already dating somebody else; he just wanted to take the chance to get this off his chest, stressing that he wants her to be happy. Alya witnesses all of this... and proceeds to post a manipulatively edited clip of it on her Ladyblog where she makes it appear that Ladybug reciprocated, having decided to completely ignore the parts that clashed with her shipping them together.
  • When Ladybug confronts Alya about the above incident, Alya snottily corrects her that the official name of her ship is LadyNoir, not CatBug. She also fails to understand just why Ladybug is so upset, dismissing it as a matter of "dating preferences" instead of Alya intentionally misrepresenting the situation.
  • After they bump into each other at the museum, Alya attempts to drag Marinette away from her babysitting duties so she can force her into another Zany Scheme. When Marinette tells her outright that she doesn't want to do that, Alya completely misinterprets her:
    Marinette: But I don't want to confess to Adrien.
    Alya: That's exactly my point. Now come on, Adrien is waiting for you.
  • This prompts Alya Staging an Intervention at the bakery the following day, calling in the rest of the Girl Posse for an "emergency meeting" without Marinette's knowledge. No matter how much Marinette stresses that she's not interested in pursuing her former crush anymore, Alya refuses to give up:
    Alya: (grabbing and shaking Marinette) Why can't you just get your act together and ask him out already?
    Marinette: (twists free from her grasp) I already told you. I'm not interested in Adrien anymore. I'm seeing Luka.
    Alya: But are you official official, or just seeing him to make Adrien jealous?
    Marinette: I'm seeing him because I like him, Alya? Is that really so hard to understand? I'm happy with him. I feel confident around him, and I don't feel so overwhelmed that I trip over my own words around him. I appreciate that you were trying to help me get with Adrien, and I'm sorry you gave up so much time to make it happen, but it's just not working out.
    Alya: That's because you're not trying hard enough!
    Marinette: Or maybe it's because you keep pushing me into doing things I'm not ready for or that I don't want to do.
    Alya: Because you need pushing!
    Marinette: No, I don't! What I need is for you to listen to me for once!
  • When Ladybug confronts Chat Noir over his entitled attitude and how he keeps ignoring her telling him that she's not interested in him and has somebody else, Chat Noir responds by sulkily claiming that she doesn't treat him like an equal partner. Something that typically involves listening to said partner... the very thing he refuses to do, as she's not telling him what he wants to hear.
  • In Hearing Only Yourself, Plagg gets aggravated with Adrien constantly blaming everyone but himself for his troubles and calls him out on it, only for Adrien to whine that "Now you're lecturing me? C'mon, Plagg, you used to be fun."
  • Later, Ladybug counters another of Chat Noir's accusations about not treating him like "a real partner" by casting a spotlight on his blatant Moral Myopia: he refuses to treat her or any of the other heroes with respect. Chat then asks her if she really wants to "air out their dirty laundry" in front of several other heroes... ignoring how he was the one who started the fight in the first place.
• Of Patience and Pettiness:
  • Kagami attempts to help Adrien understand how he mishandled the Lila situation by asking him whether he would ever lie to her or Marinette. When he insists that he'd never do so, she then asks why it was okay for Lila to trick everyone, only for Adrien to insist that she only lied because she was trying to impress others. But since they're already friends, he doesn't have any reason to lie to Kagami or Marinette.
  • When Marinette calls him out on his failure to support or even check up on her while she was dealing with Lila, Adrien attempts to pin the blame on her by declaring that he DID try, only to get rebuffed. This ignores several details: the fact that he only did so after she exposed Lila, intending to scold her for standing up for herself, and that he was Chat Noir at the time — he never attempted any intervention as Adrien. This results in Marinette realizing they were one and the same, much to her disgust.
  • Adrien does this again when Nino encourages him with a pep talk about how they can't change the past but can make the future better, using his desire to rebuild his friendship with Marinette as an example. The fact that he's talking about learning from their mistakes and making better decisions sails clear over Adrien's head; instead, he decides to 'fix' things by pursuing a romantic relationship with her.
• Recklessness has this as one of Alya's Fatal Flaws:
  • While she realizes that Marinette likely won't approve of her plan to use a Wish to learn who Hawkmoth is, she fails to grasp why, and instead tries to avoid confrontation by stealing the Miraculi she needs while she's sleeping. When Marinette wakes up and resists, she doesn't understand why she's fighting back, insisting she knows what's best and accusing her of not wanting anyone to be stronger than her.
  • After her efforts inadvertently get Adrien akumatized and Marinette killed, Alya focuses on how this lets her get the other Earring she needs easier, brushing off the horrified and tearful reactions of witnesses as 'pointlessly dramatic'. After all, her Wish will rewrite reality, so what does it matter if they don't know that and are reacting to the bloody demise of an innocent girl/their Love Interest/their own daughter?
• In Alya's chapter of ChaoticNeutral's Salt Series, her reactions to the web seminar are a mixture of this and denial. As she watches one of her idols systematically deconstruct and criticize every mistake and misstep in her journalistic efforts, Alya attempts to dismiss and excuse as much as possible. For instance, when Victoria points out how she violated Chloé's right to privacy chasing an easily disproven hunch, her immediate reaction is to think that it doesn't matter because it was Chloé. Similarly, she tries to justify her stealing the textbook Ladybug dropped as chasing a lead rather than theft and potential Blackmail.
• Scarlet Lady:
  • Shortly after arriving at Francoise Dupont, Adrien learns that Chloé has a reputation for bullying Marinette and others and immediately warns his Childhood Friend that if she doesn't stop, then they won't be friends anymore. Chloé swiftly dismisses this as something he doesn't really mean, figuring that he'll lose interest in his new classmates once he "realizes how lame they are."
  • Thanks to The Bubbler sending all the adults away, work was disrupted everywhere. One side-effect of this is that the gift Chloé ordered for Adrien was delayed. When Sabrina tries explaining this to her, Chloé angrily shouts "SO WHAT?!", not getting the correlation.
  • Max gets akumatized into the Gamer because Marinette beat him in the Ultimate Mecha Strike III tryouts, and is hellbent on tracking her down and making her pay... while ignoring that Adrien also defeated him. It takes Scarlet Lady praising him for only targeting Marinette and giving Adrien a free pass for Max to have a Jerkass Realization.
  • While working with Marinette to take down the Gamer, Chat Noir makes a pointed remark about how he knows he can rely upon her. The implied insult flies completely over Scarlet Lady's head, as she fumes about him "flirting" with Marinette.
  • Chloé's sabotage of the class photo and constantly invading Adrien's personal space enrages him to the point that he shoves her away right as the picture's taken. Chloé still regards this as "her precious photo with Adrien", insisting it captures how close they are even though it shows him pushing her back.
  • Rose attempts to reason with Reflekta by pointing out that the people she's attacking didn't do anything to her. Reflekta takes this as a suggestion to focus on Chloé first.
  • Despite knowing that the Dupain-Cheng bakery is closed to the public so that they can celebrate their anniversary, Nadja arrives well before the time she was supposed to swing by and pick up the cake they made for her as a special favor, then calls Tom demanding to know where it is. When he points out that she's twenty minutes early, she snaps "Yeah, and?" This convinces Tom and Sabine not to do any future favors for her.
  • When Marigold warns Scarlet Lady that Captain Hardrock has hostages on her ship, Scarlet Lady doesn't understand while the other heroes are so worried about the potential of them drowning or getting caught in the crossfire. After all, she can just bring them back with her Miraculous Cure, right?
  • After Chloé interrupts the group outing in "Animan", Adrien grumbles about her managing to find him despite how she shouldn't have known they were there, especially since he knows Chloé hates the zoo and considers it to be beneath her. Chloé attributes this to their "deep connection" rather than realizing that he's implying he suspects she was spying on him.
  • Penny attempts to explain to Bob Roth that his proposed collaboration between Jagged Stone and XY wouldn't work due to their very different musical styles. Bob replies that it'll be fine — all Jagged has to do is "modernize his music" and change everything about himself to conform to XY's preferences, ignoring how this completely defeats the whole purpose of a "collaborative effort".
  • When Adrien confronts Chloé about calling the fire department in "Despair Bear", she fails to realize that it's a confrontation, openly bragging about her crime. She also doesn't understand why he starts talking about how "being at school has taught me a lot about what being a good friend is," causing his "The Reason You Suck" Speech to fly completely over her head until she's completely blindsided by his declaration that they aren't friends anymore.
    • She also acts as though her "little prank" was the ''only reason that he broke their friendship off, having completely forgotten about how he warned her back when he first started attending Francoise Dupont that he'd stop considering her a friend if she kept bullying others.
  • Both Marinette and Adrien are confused by how all of the guests at Chloé's party seem really dispirited after Despair Bear is dealt with, with Adrien suggesting that it was because it ended early. Both are so used to dealing with Scarlet Lady being The Millstone that it doesn't occur to either of them that most of the guests only got to witness their Nominal Heroine in all her "glory" for the first time and are dealing with their perception of her being completely shattered.
  • In "Anansi", Alya and her friends demonstrate The Power of Friendship by teaming up to beat Nora's blatantly unfair challenge while telling her that they can keep each other safe. Nora gets pissed off by them "cheating", causing her akumatization into the titular akuma, who then attempts to isolate Alya in order to "prove her point".
  • While trying to convince Luka that he should ditch Kitty Section and Marinette, Chloé rants about how hard it was to reproduce the latter's designs, completely ignoring that Bob Roth asked her to do so because he deemed them good enough to steal.
  • "Ikari Gozen" shows that Chloé not only fails to get that Adrien isn't trying to spend time with her anymore because he doesn't consider her to be his friend, but that she thinks both school and after-school clubs are purely about "playing".
  • Mme. Bustier embodies this in "Zombizou" — even when she openly admits that Chloé only cares about herself, she still insists that Marinette and the rest of the class need to "lead by example" regardless, without the slightest idea as to how they're supposed to make Chloé care about them.
  • In "Catalyst", Nathalie questions Gabriel's intentions to incorporate Chloé into his "ultimate plan". Gabriel boasts about how he's absolutely certain that he can manipulate and control her, failing to understand that Nathalie is more concerned about how Chloé constantly served as The Load and The Millstone to the Miraculous heroes, meaning she might not be the valuable asset Gabriel clearly believes she'll be.
• Thanks, but no: After Marinette passes the Ladybug Earrings over to Alya, Master Fu attempts to secretly give her another Miraculous... which she finds another candidate for. Fu takes this as evidence that Marinette possesses impressive Heroic Willpower and isn't tempted by the power of the Miraculouses, making her a perfect candidate to become the next Guardian... when in reality, Marinette keeps refusing the call because she doesn't want to deal with the stress and responsibility of being a superheroine.
• In Traps and Sneaks, Alya unwittingly helps Lila break into Marinette's room, leading to Lila getting seriously injured when she sets off a booby trap protecting the Miracle Box. Alya proceeds to argue with Marinette's mother about the definitions of "trespassing" and "breaking and entering", completely failing to understand why they're so upset with her enabling Lila's attempt to steal from Marinette.
• Two Letters:
  • Marinette spent over a year and a half dealing with how being Ladybug was straining all her relationships before she finally broke down under the pressure and confided in Alya. Alya barely lasted two weeks — the second she realized Nino was upset, she revealed Rena Furtive's existence to him. Marinette considers this an unforgivable betrayal; Alya doesn't understand why she's so upset... and when Marinette confronts her about telling Nino, blankly asks "Well, yeah, but why do you care?" Even after she spells out exactly why in exhaustive detail, Alya declares "Everyone makes mistakes!" and keeps trying to downplay the incident.
  • Luka carefully explains to Adrien that while he might not have intended it, the fact that he switched targets and started pursuing Marinette right as Ladybug was warming up to him makes it appear that he only cared about the challenge, especially since Marinette had just given up her hopeless crush on him and wasn't receptive to his advances. Adrien not only blows him off, he declares that Ladybug should have "maturely" accepted that he wasn't interested and moved on, ignoring how he'd refused to do so himself for nearly two years.
  • Marinette hits Adrien with a blistering "Reason You Suck" Speech, spelling out that not only did he deserve being stripped of his Miraculous, but that he's a massively self-absorbed Spoiled Brat who only cares about adding girls' names to his list of conquests. Despite this, Adrien hints that he still wants to make her "his new Lady".
  • Even when Marinette tells her directly that she quit being Ladybug because she couldn't handle such a thankless burden anymore, Alix insists that she's tough enough to keep going. And when Marinette finally impresses upon her that she doesn't want to keep fighting, Alix immediately calls her a "selfish bitch", ranting about how she doesn't have any actual problems to deal with.
• Villain Of Your Own Story:
  • After learning about the Wish, Alya berates Marinette for never using it herself. Marinette points out that Reality Warping Is Not a Toy and that the price of Wishing is too high, along with noting how they can't control the results. Alya simply states that she's being too cautious, and that they just need to phrase their Wish carefully... only to not consider how her words could be interpreted at all.
  • AU!Alya got into serious trouble at her old school for posting Malicious Slander on her blog. Trouble that was severe enough that her family suffered legal consequences, and moved to Paris in hopes of giving her a fresh start. Alya blames her sources for being "untrustworthy", failing to learn anything about checking her information from the incident.
  • While Lila was publicly exposed as a liar and shipped off to reformation school, Alya refuses to consider that this might mean Marinette was telling the truth about her all along. Instead, she takes this as a sign that the Wish went horribly wrong, retconning reality to make Marinette's warnings real.
• Weight Off Your Shoulder:
  • After Chloé's Karma Houdini Warranty runs out, Adrien scolds his friends for daring to be pleased about it. Despite several of them pointing out all the ways that Chloé has been a spoiled, bullying brat who has never shown any remorse for her myriad cruelties and crimes, and that her downfall has come about as a direct result of willingly working with a magical terrorist, Adrien continues to complain that they're being unfair and should consider how much her feelings are being hurt.
  • Bunnyx watches a Bad Future where Marinette married Adrien, only to ultimately divorce him due to their relationship being All Take and No Give, with Adrien expecting Marinette to do all the heavy lifting not just in their marriage, but keeping the company he inherited afloat. Even as she's serving him with the divorce papers, he keeps whining about how she should fix everything for him because they she was their "everyday Ladybug" back in school. Despite seeing how their marriage fell apart due to its toxicity, Bunnyx complains about how she doesn't understand why she can't create a timeline where the two get together and stay together, as they're "meant to be".
• What Goes Around Comes Around:
  • When he hears that Lila and Chloé have been arrested for aiding Hawk Moth in his terrorist plans, Adrien's pleased at the notion that this will keep Marinette from causing "unnecessary drama" in class, despite how she was the one getting bullied. He also comments to Nino that things should be back to normal after their vacation, expecting everything to return to the status quo — maybe with the 'bonus' of Marinette burying the hatchet with her tormentors.
  • Despite seeing firsthand how much Marinette is struggling from having her secret identity exposed, Alya still asks for the Fox and Turtle Miraculi with the intent of outing herself and Nino on an 'exclusive' blog post.
  • While refuting Adrien's attempts to excuse his father's actions, Plagg reminds him of Syren flooding Paris. Instead of understanding that his kwami is referencing how many people drowned during said incident, Adrien accuses him of being unsympathetic to him and his family's plight. (Ironic, given Adrien's own Lack of Empathy for the victims or how he'd only cared about the notion that he was Locked Out of the Loop.)
  • In an interview with Nadja, Marinette clears up several misconceptions about her 'relationship' with Chat Noir and affirms that she is happily dating Luka. When she later asks Alya if she caught that interview, she affirms that she did... and scolds Marinette for telling the truth, complaining about her making the Ladyblog look bad and continuing to insist that Luka is "nothing special" and she should dump him for Adrien, despite Marinette clearly being upset with Adrien after learning he was Chat Noir.
• The Wolves in the Woods:
  • Adrien defends his refusal to do anything about how most of the class has turned against Marinette by insisting she's strong enough to handle the bullying... while simultaneously complaining about her decision to transfer to another school. Completely ignoring how that signals that she couldn't handle the abuse.
  • After his efforts to Maintain the Lie during Ms. Bustier's trial get him into serious legal trouble, Adrien continues insisting that Marinette was causing all the problems, not Lila. When Kagami points out that he was almost charged with perjury, he insists that it was corrected to 'just' criminal defamation.
  • Marlena and Otis spell out for Alya just how thoroughly she betrayed Marinette's trust, listing out all the ways that she hurt her 'bestie' and informing her that yes, it is too much to ask that her friend forgive her after all of that. When asked if she understands, Alya affirms that she does... and rants about how Marinette doesn't appreciate everything she did 'for her'.
• In this unnamed collaborative work, Lila convinces the whole class to help Hawkmoth make his Wish by betraying the heroes, with Hawkmoth pettily using Marinette's life as fuel. In Nobody Famous' entry, Adrien furiously rips Nino a new one, pointing out all the ways he failed to think things through and proved to be just as bad as his father. Despite this, Nino insists that they can "fix everything" by making a Wish of their own:
  Nino: We still have the Miraculous! We can just use them again!
  Adrien: Magic is not your Reset Button! You can't just use it to do whatever you want! And it won't work without killing someone else.
  Nino: We could do that! If we can pick who is sacrificed, it'll be no real loss, right?
  Adrien: Who are you to decide who is worthy?! That's what my father did! And that's why Marinette is DEAD! Because he CHOSE to kill her! Because SHE was no loss to HIM!
  Nino: But... but we can...
  Adrien: Marinette protected the Miraculous and Paris because she didn't want ANYONE to die! Do you think she'd forgive you for killing someone else?

My Hero Academia

• Cain: All of Toshinori's efforts to explain to Katsuki how misguided and self-destructive his various attempts to sabotage Izuku's apprenticeship with All Might completely fail to make any impact, as Katsuki merely twists them around into 'evidence' that Izuku is manipulating Toshinori and others into seeing him as some kind of bad guy. The notion that his own actions are responsible for that is totally lost upon him; Katsuki believes that he's supposed to be benefitting from Protagonist-Centered Morality, and that everything he does is Automatically Justified by default.
• A Clear Pattern of Behavior: Katsuki, the whole way through.
  • Thanks to always getting a free pass for his Barbaric Bullying at Aldera, Katsuki completely misinterprets Aizawa and Inui's attempt to warn him away from attacking other students. Specifically, he hears Inui stating that "The only time you should be fighting with your classmates is in approved combat exercises, and then only as instructed" and promptly interprets it as a nudge-nudge-wink-wink towards beating the shit out of Izuku during training practice.
  • When he sees that the plaque on Inui's door lists his profession as a Counselor first, his name second, and his heroic moniker third, he thinks that it's backwards, believing that the order should be reversed because his status as a Pro Hero matters more than anything else.
  • He also dismisses being asked to read the section of U.A.'s student handbook on conduct as "just another slap on the wrist", not paying attention to a single word written.
  • After he attacks Izuku during the Heroes vs. Villains exercise, Izuku desperately attempts to defend his former friend by claiming that Katsuki might not have been able to hear any of All Might's warnings, due to how loud the explosions were. Katsuki immediately snaps that "Don't you dare call me deaf, you deku! I was winning—", completely failing to recognize that Izuku was trying to give him an out.
  • When Aizawa asks him if he knew how much force would be behind his attack, Katsuki responds by pointing to the half-destroyed building and proudly declaring "Yeah, about that [much]," clearly expecting to be praised for how powerful his Quirk is rather than reprimanded for attempting to use lethal force upon his classmate.
  • Shouto also gets a small moment of this. While the rest of his classmates are horrified by how Katsuki brazenly attempted to murder Izuku, destroying part of the training grounds in the process, Shouto calmly reports to Aizawa that Bakugou used his quirk to attack Midoriya, and that Midoriya dodged. Downplayed in that he does pick up enough to ask whether or not that's a normal part of training.
• Deku? I think he's some pro...:
  • When Brave tells Izuku that everybody was convinced he was a retired Pro Hero, Izuku (already mid-panic attack) assumes he's going to be accused of impersonating someone, not realizing that Brave's actually trying to encourage him by pointing out how much he's accomplished.
  • All Might repeatedly ignores all of Izuku's accomplishments in favor of focusing on his Quirklessness. For instance, he fixates on the fact that he was nearly killed during his first combat exercise, ignoring how Bakugo was the one who used extreme force, and that Izuku managed to win that battle anyway.
• Dekugate:
  • The members of the titular online community are rabid All Might fans who refuse to accept that he's Happily Married, insisting that his marriage to Inko/Parakeet is all a sham and that both she and Izuku are actors. When Toshinori finally acknowledges the group's existence by mocking their delusions and making clear that he doesn't approve, they dismiss the whole rebuke as being 'scripted'.
  • When Toshinori confronts Nitta Mari and brings up their online persona, they gleefully gasp "You've read my blog!" It takes Toshinori pointing out that said blog is filled with them actively wishing harm upon his wife and son for them to grasp that his recognizing them is a very, very bad thing for them.
• In A Hero Rises, Bakugo insists that being a Pro Hero is entirely about fighting villains, not saving people, going so far as to declare that saving hostages isn't his job. When All Might attempts an Armor-Piercing Response by pointing out that by Bakugo's own logic, he should've left the boy to die at the hands of the Sludge Villain, Bakugo simply insists he didn't need any help.
• In Origin of a Non-Hero, Izuku and Ochaco's son Shikinori wants absolutely nothing to do with Pro Heroism after seeing how much it cost their family. Despite repeatedly making clear to his father that he has no interest in heroism, he still feels pressured to follow in their footsteps, to the point that he wants to have his Quirk removed entirely just so they'll stop asking. Ultimately, when Izuku believes that he's gone through with it, his response is to consider giving him One For All... even though that would just convince his son that he wanted him to become a Hero no matter what.
• Peace's Apprentice: This proves to be a running theme with Aizawa:
  • After he expels Izuku on the first day of school, Nezu confronts him, revealing that he has evidence that Aizawa deliberately singled out Izuku before the Quirk Assessment Tests, and strips him of the ability to expel students at whim. Aizawa simply sulks about losing the ability to follow through on his expulsion threats, even as he continues to make them, letting his students believe he still has that power.
  • Following a tragedy, Nezu's investigation exposes that Aizawa signed off on Bakugou's hero equipment without taking a good look at the design; as a result, he missed that the schematics had been tweaked so that his gauntlets would fill with significantly more sweat, resulting in larger explosions. When confronted, Aizawa openly admits that he doesn't pay any attention to his students' paperwork, expecting them to learn from their own mistakes while ignoring how this makes him responsible for Katsuki accidentally murdering several villains and his classmate Mineta with an uncontrolled explosion.
  • When he learns that Shinsou has dropped out of the Hero Course, he immediately blames Nezu, only for Nezu to explain that he's not responsible; Shinsou made that decision himself due to his throat injuries rendering him effectively Quirkless. Aizawa's takeaway from this is to go and start harassing Shinsou, trying to strong-arm him into changing his mind while ignoring the reasoning behind it.
• Think Before You Speak:
  • The very first chapter of Words May Hurt makes clear that Katsuki doesn't understand why he's being punished for ignoring orders and using excessive force during the Heroes vs. Villains exercise. His primary self-defense is declaring that "I only did it because it was Deku!", and he doesn't get why nobody else considers that to be a valid reason.
  • Despite his punishment consisting primarily of lessons about rules and regulations about Quirk usage and Heroics, he refuses to recognize them as real lessons, much less the fact that he needs them. As far as he's concerned, Izuku is the only one getting 'real' lessons after school, since he's getting to train with Gran Torino.
• We're Not Friends Kacchan: Katsuki attempts to prove that he's the best aspiring hero by being the fastest to rescue a training dummy victim... but his speed comes at the cost of the training dummy being practically mangled, when the entire point of the exercise was to prevent further injury. Katsuki doesn't even realize he did poorly until he receives his grade.

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic

• Alicorn: When captain Tristar calls out the racial inequality of Equestrian society by pointing out that there's a school for gifted unicorns but not pegasi or earth ponies, Twilight Sparkle asks what schools like that would even teach. Having grown up surrounded by unicorns and lived a sheltered life in the unicorn-dominated capital, she doesn't realize that thinking like that is exactly what Tristar is bothered by.
• Changeling Courtship Rituals: Candance refuses to believe that Love Redeems, and does everything she can to sabotage Twilight and Chrysalis' developing relationship in the name of Revenge.
• Marionettes: In an effort to steer the Stallions in Black away from their current path, the Tree of Harmony sent their oracle Gypsy to confront them. The Stallions instead take her arrival as a sign that their path was righteous, imprisoning her and using her visions to attempt enforcing Destiny itself. No amount of protesting on her part that this isn't what the Tree wants and that there's no such thing as one singular, immutable future is able to convince them that what they're doing is wrong.
• MLP Grief Is The Price We Pay: Shining Armor acknowledges that Twilight is upset by how Spike got banished alongside Thorax, comparing it to how Princess Celestia must have felt after banishing her sister. He completely ignores that Nightmare Moon was a direct threat to Equestria, and effectively forced Celestia to act by trying to kill her. Thorax's only "crime" was being a changeling, and Spike was Punished for Sympathy.
• RainbowDoubleDash's Lunaverse: During Tales of Ponyville, Trixie sees Raindrops out enjoying the rain. Since Raindrops is usually a grouchy sort, Trixie assumes she's an imposter, drags her inside and tries "exposing" her, forcing Raindrops to take a highly embarrassing truth potion to confirm that yes, she is Raindrops.

Naruto

• Androgyninja's A Drop of Poison:
  • Iruka tells Sasuke that he underestimated Sakura; Sasuke dismisses the idea and sneers about how a 'civilian-born' girl like her won't ever amount to anything more than Cannon Fodder. This earns him detention, but Sasuke refuses to acknowledge that there was anything wrong with what he said or how he acted.
  • Similarly, Sasuke scoffs at Sakura's declaration that she's aiming to become a jounin. Not only does he assume that's beyond her reach, he takes for granted that he will eventually reach that level simply because he's an Uchiha, without putting any thought into why he makes both assumptions.
  • When Kakashi notices that Sakura is teaching herself water-walking, he doesn't recognize that she's doing so because he's been completely neglecting her training. Instead, he simply thinks to himself that she would have done better on another team.
  • When Sasuke learns that Sakura has killed in order to defend herself and her teammates, she earns his respect... but instead of reevaluating his views on civilians, he simply decides that she's an exception. As a result, when she hits her Rage Breaking Point and attacks him over his dismissive attitude towards civilians, not only does he not comprehend why she's so angry, he cluelessly declares "I don't know why you're so pissed. It's not like you're a civilian."
  • Naruto reacts very poorly to learning that Sakura has a body count, trying to call her out for the terrible crime of defending herself. Even when Sakura and Kakashi both spell out that it was a matter of killing or being killed, he acts even more horrified and offended upon hearing that one of her 'victims' was Tsunami's cousin Shota, completely ignoring the surrounding circumstances.
• A Case Study in the Sturdiness of the Rookie 9:
  • When their mission goes sideways due to the boys' fear of Ino, Asuma recognizes that he let her terrorize her teammates too much. Rather than addressing the trust issues that have stemmed from this, he focuses on trying to find some other way of forcing the two into line.
  • Thanks to Kakashi taking a hands-off approach with their education, Team Seven fails to understand just why everyone is so distrustful of them after they betray Team Ten during the Chuunin Exam. Even when this spurs Kakashi's Heel Realization and he starts trying to atone, Shino and Sakura miss the point of his new lesson plan.
• Escape From The Hokage's Hat: Kakashi assumes that the reason the other ninja treat him like a pariah is because of his failure to prevent Sasuke's defection. The real reason is that they're utterly appalled at how he neglected Naruto and Sakura's training in favor of Sasuke. It takes an Armor-Piercing Question from Tenten for him to realize the misconception and start taking steps to rectify it.
• Space to Breathe:
  • When Sakura protests the idea of signing up for the Chunin Exams, fearing that her team isn't ready for such a challenge, Sasuke angrily accuses her of 'holding them back'. Naruto leaps to her defense... but then tries to reassure her that he'll ensure her 'good looks' aren't damaged, implying her concerns stem purely from personal vanity.
  • Combining this with Self-Serving Memory, Sasuke refuses to acknowledge that Sakura was the one who chose to leave Team Seven, reinterpreting it as him opting to leave her behind so that she'd stop "getting in his way". He angrily dismisses any suggestion that there was anything wrong with how he treated her, to the point that he violently attacks Naruto when confronted over it.
  • Related to the above point, Kakashi himself points out that the lesson about how "those who abandon their teammates are worse than scum" flew completely over Sasuke's head. Not only is he completely unbothered by Sakura leaving Team Seven, he attacks a fellow leaf-nin in public over his own wounded pride.
  • While he's saddened by Sakura leaving, Naruto also fails to grasp why she left. When he gets the chance to talk to her a few months later, he manages to seriously offend her by treating her precisely the same way he had beforehand, spurring her to call him out on his ignorance.
• Three's A Crowd:
  • Sasuke and Uo miss the point of the bell test... and so does Kakashi, despite being the one administering it. He punishes Sakura for being the only one who tried convincing her teammates to work with her, annoyed that she didn't even attempt to attack him by herself... because she recognized that doing so without backup was pointless.
  • When Sakura calls Kakashi out for not doing anything about how Sasuke and Uo refuse to treat her or anyone else with respect, Kakashi attempts to solve the problem by forcing Sakura to demonstrate her tree-walking skills. This only serves to make the boys even more resentful at the suggestion that she's more skilled than them... and when Sakura tries pointing that out to him, Kakashi just wonders why she "doesn't want to show off."
• What You Knead: While others poke fun at Kakashi's occasional culinary blunders, Jiraiya sneeringly questions why he's starting a bakery when he doesn't have any natural talent for it. For Kakashi, that's part of the point — baking is a Cathartic Chore for him because it helped him realize that Mistakes Are Not the End of the World. Screwing up in the kitchen isn't nearly as disastrous as making a mistake in the field.

Ranma ½

• An Orchid Beside The Red Heaven Way lampshades a common misconception about Romeo and Juliet, as Akane calls it "the most famous romance in the world", only for her friend Ran to correct her.

  Ran: I don't want to burst your bubble but Romeo and Juliet is a tragedy.
  Akane: Well, they do die at the end, but...
  Ran: No, you're not getting it. It's a tragedy. Two silly kids raised by oblivious parents in a city full of stupidity. They take several rash actions on the spur of the moment, try to run away and hide from the consequences, and end up killing themselves for nothing. Everyone is hurt, and everyone is to blame. That's why it's a tragedy.

Sherlock Holmes

• Of Art And Autographs: At a book signing, Watson gets harassed by a meddlesome gentleman who makes numerous remarks about his friendship with Holmes. When the guy doesn't go away with the rest of the crowd, Watson asks him irritably if he doesn't have friends or family who will be missing him. The man answers that fortunately, he has had the good luck not to have to deal with the pettiness and daily drama involved in such relationships. Watson then retorts that clearly; he's missed the entire point of relationships and it's lucky for everyone else that no one has had the bad luck to be related to or friends with him.

A Song of Ice and Fire

• Let the Galaxy Burn: When it turns out that the Longbow Network, a satellite defensive network developed by a company owned in part by the Tarlys, which is an economic rival to the Tyrell-Redwyne-Hightower alliance, was what allowed the defenders of Southshield to beat the Ironborn back while suffering few casualties, one of the Hightowers muses that they ought to start doing propaganda to offset any good publicity the Longbow Network has earned.
• Robb Returns: The message from the Seven, delivered via their statues turning Northwards, was intended to warn their followers against the Others, but many of their followers either misinterpret or choose to believe that it's warning them against the North and the Old Gods instead.

Steven Universe

• In Fusion Impression, Priyanka accidentally implies that fusion is Steven's way of taking advantage of Connie. He does not take it well.

Umineko: When They Cry

• In Redaction of the Golden Witch, the Protagonist of the 1996 sections is deeply uncomfortable with how their Witch Hunter friends treat the whole matter of the Rokkenjima Incident, and hopes that they'll come to recognize that the tragedy was a very real incident, with real victims, and that the fandom they've built up around it is... really kind of creepy and exploitive. Time and again, the darker implications and impact of their actions is lost upon them.

Yu-Gi-Oh!

• The Judgement of the World (5Ds): Judai was told that Yugi had "gone to heaven." He thought people meant that Yugi was in outer space instead of dead and thus had Yubel sent to space via missile, hoping that Yugi would be able to help them. Justified, since he was only a child at the time. Not even people who consider him immature and dislike him can fault him for what he did.

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