Build a Fighting Game

I think it's debatable whether Eternal Champions, Killer Instinct, or Way of the Warrior are really "failed". I mean, Eternal Champions and Killer Instinct still got sequels; Killer Instinct still has a following, especially. And Way of the Warrior way have stunk like a week-old doggy doo, but it still sold enough copies to keep Naughty Dog afloat.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great

How about something with a relatively simple control scheme, like with Super Smash Bros. A normal attack button, a special attack button, a grab button, and all variations on attacks are produced by pressing the control stick in a direction while pressing the button. Except unlike smash bros, make several combos available. Nothing too long, but, for example, a down normal followed by a down special could result in something like a sweep attack followed by something other than the normal down special. And make grabbing allow a variaty of grappling attacks instead of just a throw, with a second press of the grab button resulting in a throw.

And include an adventure mode, where the characters progress in a beat'em up style game. Except instead of generic enemies that go down in one or two hits, make all of them follow the same combat format as the playable characters. And make all of them unlockable characters (except for a handful of bosses that break the character format).

And make all of the characters knockoffs of comic book characters vying in a massive brawl for the chance to star in their own comic book. And at the end, have them become "famous" video game characters instead. And by famous, we mean in the sense that they're in a video game. Which at least one of them has to point out is a total crap prize. Bonus points if they look at the player before saying it.

And include a multiplayer mode for the adventure mode. Except at the end of it, have all the players kill each other until only one remains.

edited 8th Mar '13 9:21:17 AM by Hyp3rB14d3

I'll post this here, so I don't derail the Playstation All-Stars thread anymore:

X-Box: Ultimate X-Stars

Not sure if it would be a Marvel Vs Capcom 3 style fighter, Mascot Fighter, or something in between. To all the haters who claim Xbox doesn't have enough characters, here's the proof that they are wrong:

First-Party characters:

• Master Chief
• Marcus Fenix
• Alan Wake
• Kameo
• Banjo & Kazooie
• Splosion Man
• Voodoo Vince
• Blinx
• The Gunstringer
• Someone from Fable
• Shao Ting
• Conker
• Shu
• The Agent
• Kaim Argonar
• Joanna Dark
• Frank & The Maw
• Samson
• Captain Smiley
• Avatar

Third-Party characters:

• Frank West (the first game was Xbox-exclusive)
• The Spelunker (because of the XBLA version)
• Chell (Portal: Still Alive was Xbox-exclusive)
• Steve? (Notch said Xbox would be the sole console provider of Minecraft).

I want 10 more characters (just to stick it to Sony the man), but I don't know who else to pick.

Original idea. Do not steal.

edited 29th Mar '13 1:03:36 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM

Cooper Chance? Maybe someone from Crimson Alliance, ilomilo or Iron Brigade?

Some people have called Ninja Gaiden the Xbox's most notable 3rd-party action title, kind of like Devil May Cry is to the Playstation. That and several Dead or Alive games were Xbox exclusive. So Ryu Hayabusa has earned his way into the Xbox pantheon.

Okay. Ryu works. It's just that I didn't want to go overboard on the third-parties. I want to reach at least 30 characters (not including third-parties).

Iron Brigade wouldn't work. You pilot a Humongous Mecha. The main character had his legs crushed by a tank, so you couldn't even make it one of those characters who uses a mech for a level 3 and fights normally for the rest of the time.

Could you really get a moveset out of the duo from ilomilo?

edited 29th Mar '13 4:05:50 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM

Sure. The player could switch between the two, pick up items, flip switches, create pathways and ultimately trap the opposition by altering the level. Basically a Confusion Fu character fighting with puzzles.

For the Fable rep, people often suggest Theresa. But does she actually have many combat abilities?

The character page for Fable on here doesn't seem to mention any attacking abilities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM

Any game where I can get more of "Greatest Movie Director in World" Shao Ting is a good thing.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great

Yeah, I choose Shao Ting because he is arguably the greatest character in that game. He's funny and isn't shallow like the rest of the cast, who don't have any real characterisation.

And besides, the defacto main character (either Master Sho-Yu or Ninja Fu Hiya) is way more boring and generic, both appearance and fighting style-wise.

So now I have two new additions to the roster:

• Ilo & Milo (Thank you to Alucard for the suggestion. I also looked up some footage and saw a few things that would work for moves, such as a portable block and springs)
• I.R.I.S.

And that makes 22 First-Party characters.

edited 2nd Apr '13 11:18:49 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM

Would you allow more than one character per franchise?

As for Fable, I think we should use a named character, like the Guildmaster or Jack of Blades, to avoid dealing with the messy issues involving the Featureless Protagonist(s) with no official appearance. (Also, yes, I have only played the first one.)

Also, does Ninety Nine Nights count?

edited 3rd Apr '13 3:39:41 PM by videogmer314

How come that no one mentions the glorious Fighter's Destiny on the Nintendo 64? Now that's a game I would gladly remake. Hell, I was already thinking of putting a team together and proposing the project on Kickstarter.

Fear the cinnamon sugar swirl. By the Gods, fear it, Laurence.

Never heard of it. But you should go ahead and do the kickstarter.

Yes, I will allow more than one character per franchise, but I want 4 more first party characters first before I double-dip into already-repped ones.

Well, with Fable's protagonists, it can be assumed that their official appearance is the one that appears on the box art. But yeah, maybe someone else.

Ninety Nine Nights is indeed owned by Microsoft.

edited 3rd Apr '13 9:15:38 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM

Since I've suggested this at a few other threads, I'll say it here again, how about a Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha vs. Street Fighter and/or Seven Arcs vs. Capcom?

edited 30th Apr '13 12:54:43 PM by HollowHawk

Most people like to start with a roster before they think of a combat system. Something to guide the game towards an ideal that benefits both sides of the crossover.

That would need some serious Power Creep, Power Seep if it's just v.s. SF. Or else most of the SF characters would be easily befriended.

...eheh

If it's just Lyrical Nanoha vs. Street Fighter, just tone down the characters from the former a little bit, like how Street Fighter X Tekken handled the Devil Gene powers of both Kazuya and Jin, but if it's Seven Arcs vs. Capcom, then it's free-for-all.

To answer that Alucard, here's my idea for one movelist, though I'll skip normal and command moves, and probably throw in a little Canon Foreigner moves, like Cyclops with Gene Splicer and Cyclone Kick, so here goes:

Nanoha Takamachi

Specials

QCF + Punch = Divine Shooter

Punch button determines direction; light punch/jab aims for the lower body, medium punch/strong aims for the upper body, and high punch/fierce is anti-air. Can be done in mid air. EX version (if you press all three punch buttons) is Axel Shooter. Both versions can be done in the air.

FDPM (forward dragon punch motion or specifically, forward, down, down-forward) + punch = Strike Flame.

Any Punch button after Strike Flame = Strike Scythe

After Strike Flame, the tip part turns into an energy scythe, in which Nanoha will do a Shoryuken-style sword slash. Punch button determines number of hits, namely, light punch/jab Strike Flame, then press light punch/jab again for 1-hit Strike Scythe, medium punch Strike Flame, then press medium punch/strong for 2-hit Strike Scythe, and high punch/fierce Strike Flame = 3-hit Strike Scythe. EX version is a two-hit Strike Flame then a 3-hit Strike Scythe.

HCB (half-circle backward) + punch button = Starlight Fall

Punch button determines number of hits.

QCB + press any kick button twice = A.C.S. Driver

After enemy is hit, Nanoha will do a roundhouse.

Any punch button after 2nd hit of A.C.S. Driver = Maneuver Shooting Star Assault

Any kick button after 2nd hit of A.C.S. Driver = a slamming overhead kick

If done in mid air, the second hit will be a slamming overhead kick, and any move after cannot be done.

EX version of A.C.S. Driver ends in a roundhouse kick, then a high kick.

BDPM (backward dragon punch motion or backward, down, down-backward) + punch = Sacred Cluster

Parry move.

BDPM or FDPM + all three punch buttons or all three kick buttons = Flash Move

Any punch button after Flash Move = Flash Impact

Any kick button after Flash Move = another roundhouse kick

Hyper Combos

QCF x 2 + all three punch buttons = Divine Buster

Level 3 version (when meter is at level 3) - Exelion Buster

Press forward or up-forward to determine direction.

Can be done in mid-air, and while in mid-air, press forward or down-forward to determine direction.

QCB x 2 + all three punch buttons = Strike Smasher

Level 3 Hyper (when meter is a t level 3): FDPM x 2 + all three punch buttons = Starlight Breaker

Press forward or up-forward to determine direction.

Can be done in mid-air, and while in mid-air, press forward or down-forward to determine direction.

If you or anyone has a better way of determining Nanoha's movelist, please, grace me.

edited 7th May '13 12:38:11 AM by HollowHawk

Well, there's a thread for that too (which is ironically where this conversation started).

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Now that we have a fighting game of our own, I pretty much want to see Sony fight everybody at one point or another. Since match-ups are important, here's some of my rivalry-based rosters:

PlayStation Vs. Nintendo

• Sackboy vs. Mario
• Nathan Drake vs. Link
• Spike/Kakeru vs. Donkey Kong
• Kratos vs. Pit
• Cole MacGrath vs. Pikachu
• Toro Inoue Inoue vs. Kirby
• Nariko vs. Samus
• Ratchet & Clank vs. Fox
• Jak and Daxter vs. Falco
• Sly Cooper vs. Shiek/Zelda
• Parappa vs. Yoshi
• Knack vs. Olimar
• Sir Daniel Fortesque vs. Mr. Game & Watch
• Fat Princess vs. Wario
• Kat/Kitten vs. Ness
• Uberhero w/ Patapon army vs. Pokemon Trainer
• Dart Feld vs. Marth
• The Journeyer/Robed Figure vs. R.O.B.
• Emmett Graves vs. Lucario
• Toan vs. Ike
• Ico and Yorda vs. The Ice Climbers
• Wander vs. Meta Knight
• Sweet Tooth vs. Captain Falcon
• Colonel Mael Radec vs. Ganondorf
• Zeus vs. Bowser

PlayStation Vs. Xbox

• Kratos vs. Master Chief
• Nathan Drake vs. Marcus Fenix
• Ratchet & Clank vs. Blinx the Time Sweeper
• Sly Cooper vs. Joanna Dark
• Jak and Daxter vs. Banjo & Kazooie
• Parappa vs. Conker
• Sackboy vs. ilomilo
• Spike/Kakeru vs. Shu
• Cole MacGrath vs. The Agent
• Fat Princess vs. The Warrior, Mage and Cleric
• Sir Daniel Fortesque vs. The Gunstringer
• Nariko vs. Theresa
• Kat/Kitten vs. Kameo
• Sweet Tooth vs. Alan Wake
• Knack vs. ''Splosion Man
• Dart Feld vs. Kaim Argonar
• Ellen and Keats vs. Dust
• Dr. Nefarious vs. Frank and The Maw
• Daedalus (Chimeran Leader) vs. General RAAM
• Colonel Mael Radec vs. Thel 'Vadam

Joke battle: Toro vs. The Avatars (lead by Clippy)

PlayStation Vs. Sega

• Sackboy vs. Sonic the Hedgehog
• Spike/Kakeru vs. AiAi
• Parappa vs. Amigo
• Kat/Kitten vs. NiGHTS
• Toro Inoue vs. Akira Yuki
• Kratos vs. Hotsuma
• Nathan Drake vs. Kazuma Kiryu
• Ellen and Keats vs. Selvaria Bles (with Johann)
• Ratchet & Clank vs. Red & Blue
• Jak and Daxter vs. Shadow the Hedgehog
• Sly Cooper vs. Beat
• Sir Daniel Fortesque vs. Gilius Thunderhead
• Nariko vs. Bayonetta
• Sweet Tooth vs. Jack Cayman
• Colonel Mael Radec vs. Sam Gideon
• Cole MacGrath vs. The Magician
• Jennifer Tate vs. Luke Custer
• Uberhero w/ Patapon army vs. Ulala
• Tag vs. Alex Kidd
• Jaster Rogue vs. Vyse the Sky Pirate
• Arc Eda Ricolne vs. Max
• Maximilian and Monica vs. Chaz Ashley and Alys Brangwin
• Dart Feld vs. Orta
• Rudy Roughnight vs. Zephyr
• Minamoto no Yoshitsune and Benkei vs. Sakura Shinguji and Ichiro Ogami
• Emmett Graves (in The Hawk) vs. The F-14 Tomcat
• Gabriel "Gabe" Logan vs. Mobo and Robo
• Mark Hammond vs. Axel Stone
• Fat Princess vs. Billy Hatcher
• Kutaro vs. Kid Chameleon
• Ethan Mars vs. Ryo Hazuki
• Ultra-V vs. MBV-04-G Temjin (maybe in a stage)
• Kulche and the other LocoRoco vs. The ChuChus
• Knack vs. Vectorman
• Specter vs. Joe Fang
• Dr. Nefarious vs. Dr. Eggman

PlayStation Vs. Square Enix

• Nathan Drake vs. Lara Croft
• Toro Inoue vs. Metal King Slime
• Dart Feld vs. Cloud Strife
• Jak and Daxter vs. Squall Leonhart
• Colonel Mael Radec vs. Laguna Loire
• Sly Cooper vs. Zidane Tribal
• Sackboy vs. Vivi
• Kratos vs. Jecht
• Ellen vs. Yuna
• Jaster Rogue vs. Balthier
• Leonard vs. Judge Gabranth
• Kat/Kitten vs. Lightning
• Arc Eda Ricolne vs. Ramza Beoulve
• Spike/Kakeru vs. Musashi
• Rudy Roughnight vs. Serge
• Ratchet & Clank vs. Claude C. Kenny
• Nariko vs. Lenneth
• Jeanne d'Arc vs. Gustave XIII
• Maximilian and Monica vs. Rue and Mint
• Sir Daniel Fortesque vs. Gex
• Gabriel "Gabe" Logan vs. Agent 49
• Mark Hammond vs. Wei Shen
• Evil/InFAMOUS Cole MacGrath vs. Fei Fong Wong
• Jennifer Tate vs. Aya Brea
• Carmelita Fox vs. Garrett
• Alundra vs. Kiefer
• Rau Utu vs. Yangus
• Knight Class vs. Ashley Riot
• Delsin Rowe vs. Adam Jensen
• Zoran Lazarevic vs. Rico Rodriguez
• Sweet Tooth vs. Kain
• Lloyd vs. Sephiroth

PlayStation Vs. Capcom

• Kratos vs. Dante
• Toro Inoue vs. Ryu
• Sackboy vs. Amaterasu
• Spike/Kakeru vs. Mega Man X
• Nathan Drake vs. Edward Falcon
• Jak and Daxter vs. Zero
• Ratchet & Clank vs. PTX-40A
• Sly Cooper vs. Strider Hiryu
• Parappa vs. Viewtiful Joe
• Sir Daniel Fortesque vs. Sir Arthur
• Kat/Kitten vs. Nilin
• Gabriel "Gabe" Logan vs. Regina
• Fat Princess vs. Phoenix Wright
• Cole MacGrath vs. Gene
• Nariko vs. Kirin Armor (female)
• Emmett Graves vs. Nathan "Rad" Spencer
• Jennifer Tate vs. Frank West
• Rudy Roughnight vs. Saki Omokane
• Minamoto no Yoshitsune vs. Samanosuke Akechi
• Finn vs. Tessa/Tabasa
• Knack vs. Captain Commando
• Dart Feld vs. Sieg Wahrheit
• Delsin Rowe vs. Batsu Ichimonji
• Ellen and Keats vs. Demitri Maximoff
• Wander vs. Vergil
• Specter vs. Jin Saotome
• Zeus vs. Mike Haggar
• Lloyd vs. Hayato Kanzaki
• Colonel Mael Radec vs. Date Masamune
• Daedalus (Chimeran Leader) vs. Leon S. Kennedy
• Sweet Tooth vs. Nemesis T-Type
• Calypso vs. Jedah Dohma

PlayStation Vs. Konami

• Gabriel "Gabe" Logan vs. Big Boss
• Minamoto no Yoshitsune vs. Raiden
• Kratos vs. Alucard
• Sackboy vs. Bomberman
• Jennifer Tate vs. Yugo Ogami
• Sly Cooper vs. Goemon
• Ratchet vs. Twinbee
• Nathan Hale vs. Bill Rizer
• Emmett Graves (in The Hawk) vs. Dingo Egret in Jehuty
• Ellen vs. Heather Mason
• Jeanne d'Arc vs. The Flame Champion
• Sir Daniel Fortesque vs. Sparkster
• Dart Feld vs. Simon Belmont
• Sweet Tooth vs. Pyramid Head
• Zeus vs. Dracula
• Colonel Mael Radec vs. Liquid Ocelot

edited 4th Jun '13 10:29:42 AM by Alucard

Didn't you tell me to go here in that thread.

If you're gonna pee, do it in a bathroom, not here!

my drawing blog ya'll UPDATES 10 TIMES A MONTH WOW, THIS IS STRAIGHT UP MUH SOGGY KNEE

I guess this thread is for general concepts and overarching ideas, that thread is for move-sets.

If you'd started with a move-set, there'd be nothing wrong with your being in that thread. Instead you came in with a game idea.

Alright, so I went and added Square Enix. That one took the longest mainly because I was never quite satisfied with it.

For those rosters as a whole, I want people reading them to keep in mind that I prefer to approach the 3rd-party publishers with a Sony-centric mindset. That means there's going to be more than a few missing faces, more often than not because their games have never touched a Playstation console (in Sora and Riku's case, I'm not really sure how much control Squeenix has over them without a say from Disney).

Feel free to point out bad/senseless match-ups. I'll try to explain them.

P.S: You might notice that a few of them come up to 32 matches, the perfect size for a tournament.

edited 18th May '13 1:25:36 PM by Alucard

I'll be transferring my sample movelist idea from here to there, okay?

edited 24th May '13 5:00:56 PM by HollowHawk

If this is going to be a serious project, then we need to pick an idea. We might need a crowner.

Well, do we want this to be a hodgepodge or a serious project? I'm up for a serious project, but this will probably remain all theory unless one of us is a GDLK programmer.

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.

There are free programs on the internet that will let you easily make a fighting game, like MUGEN.