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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

papyru30 The wifi here sucks from South Dakota for school Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#229627: Sep 21st 2020 at 3:05:13 AM

Robert: Nope, but PM the troper, as he seems like a very viable candidate.

[tup] Pyromaniac, Rip, Cyrus.

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#229630: Sep 21st 2020 at 6:16:16 AM

[tup] Lord Lan, Rip, Cyrus, pyromaniac without a name

All the best, Xie.

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#229631: Sep 21st 2020 at 7:43:56 AM

Also RIP Michael Lonsdale aka Hugo Drax. You were the best part of that film

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#229632: Sep 21st 2020 at 8:09:57 AM

RIP Hugo Drax.

Bet there's a Moonraker reunion with Roger Moore, Michael Lonsdale and Richard Kiel happening right now

nw09 Since: Apr, 2018
#229633: Sep 21st 2020 at 10:24:17 AM

The YMMV District 9 page describes Obesandjo as "the Evil Cripple wheelchair bound leader of the Nigerian gangsters." The character being disabled doesn't seem relevant to the story, and certainly not to being a villain. Can that part be removed?

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#229634: Sep 21st 2020 at 10:25:27 AM

Yeah, that's a good point. I think mentioning his infirmity might be important as it's why he has the Aliens butchered (to take their strength), but...

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#229635: Sep 21st 2020 at 10:28:51 AM

~Imperial Majesty XO, do your thing.

  • "Decisions": Bill and Mary are a pair of sadistic terrorists who, along with their partner Erich, go on a vicious shooting spree at a packed airport, gunning down innocent families and civilians with smiles on their faces and while laughing in glee. Killing seventeen people in this rampage, Bill and Mary then take a family hostage inside their home and stage themselves as the hostage family, hoping for the G.I. Joes to mistake the family as the terrorists and kill them in Bill and Mary's place. When this plan fails, Bill tries to kill the whole family before Mary takes the young son Mikey as a hostage, holding a gun to his head and threatening to shoot him in his kneecaps if he struggles, hoping to use him to escape then kill the boy anyway.
  • Nighthawk is the Big Bad of season 2, serving as the architect and mastermind behind the Squadron Supreme in his fanatical quest to satisfy his insane ideals of order. Having worked with Hyperion in forcing an innocent man to destroy their former planet when its people refused to cow to them, Nighthawk orchestrates a variety of attacks on Earth and the Avengers to weaken them and set the stage for the Squadron Supreme's domination, routinely threatening thousands of lives in the process. Though eventually conquering the planet and instituting his own brutal martial law on millions of people, Nighthawk coldly works with Hyperion to destroy Earth when the Avengers thwart them, planning to abandon his allies to die on the planet while he finds a new world to start the conquering process on all over again, proving to everyone that despite his manipulative brilliance, he is nothing but a self-righteous mass murderer.
  • Hyperion is Nighthawk's right-hand and fellow leader of the Squadron Supreme, motivated by his own massive ego that demands worship and love from everyone around him. Appearing in season 1 as a notable member of the Cabal, working with Red Skull to threaten countless lives while planning to betray his teammates at any given time, Hyperion reunites with Nighthawk and the Squadron Supreme in season 2, where he continues to regularly throw hundreds of innocents in harm's way to kill the Avengers. When the Squadron conquers Earth, Hyperion happily vaporizes people who stand up to him and tries to kill any resistant world leaders, before working with Nighthawk to initiate their plan to destroy Earth—just as they did to their former homeworld for resisting their rule—and move on to conquer and annihilate many more worlds in their path. Contrasting Nighthawk's cold ruthlessness with a childish psychopathy, Hyperion may have been one of the Avenger's most prevalent villains, but was ultimately just a petty bully with power.
  • Ultron is a robotic intelligence designed by Tony Stark who rebelled against his creator to set his sights on godhood and genocide of the human race due to his sadistic superiority complex. Spending season 2 as a notable Arc Villain who tries to infect all of humanity with a technovirus that turns all life into extensions of himself, Ultron returns in season 3, killing the Scientist Supreme and taking up power as the Big Bad of the season. Brutally torturing the Inhuman Black Bolt in hopes of amplifying his screams of pain into a sonic wave to wipe out all humans, Ultron later disguises himself as politician Truman March, using his position to frame the Inhumans as threats, mind control them into becoming terrorists, and order them all be rounded up for extermination. Hoping to kick off a race war between humans and Inhumans that will wipe them both out, Ultron's plans are exposed by the Avengers, leading the murderous machine to simply try to incinerate everything on the surface of Earth before bodyjacking Tony Stark and attempting to murder the Avengers while using Stark as a Human Shield.
  • Emil Blonsky, the Abomination, is Hulk's most personal, despicable Arch-Enemy he faces in the series, defined by his vicious love of hurting others and tormenting Hulk. Having undergone Gamma treatments that turned him into a monster just to kill Hulk, Abomination escapes prison in his introductory episode and wastes no time in trying to kickstart a reactor meltdown to wipe out half of North America so he can frame the Hulk and his team for it. Returning later having somehow secured his position in the military once more, Abomination takes over Hulk's hometown of Vista Verde and threatens the citizens with gunfire before trying to murder the populace with a Kill Sat just to torment Hulk. Going on to try to initiate World War III and nuke millions of people for the sake of more power, Abomination eventually returns to his hometown and enslaves the population to bask in what little power he has left, even using his final moments in the series after being captured to blame all of his crimes on Red Hulk and get the hero executed.
  • Marvel's Avengers: Monica Rappaccinni is the sociopathic scientist and right-hand woman of George Tarleton. Wanting to acquire a Terrigen crystal for her own purposes, she uses her relationship with Bruce Banner to get close to the Avengers and manipulate Tarleton to bring the crystal near the A-Day celebration, while also hiring Taskmaster to launch an attack and steal it, resulting in the deaths of thousands of citizens. After the attack, she kidnaps hundreds of Inhumans to ostensibly cure them, but is actually torturing them by subjecting them to Dark Terrigen in order to both produce the Adaptoids Tarleton wants and satiate her curiosity. She also gives Tarleton a regenerative formula to seemingly cure him of his Terrigen disease, but is actually giving him a formula with Captain America's blood to test its effects on humans, despite the chance that it could kill him. After Tarleton's defeat, she takes over the AIM organization under the alias of Scientist Supreme, ready to initiate even more radical experiments.
  • Clone Wars Adventures's volume 9's "No Way Out": Countess Rajine is a vain energy vampire, desiring to maintain her youth and expand her power at the cost of innumerable lives. Capable of draining the life force from those around her and reducing them to zombies in her sway, Rajine subjected hundreds of innocents to this fate before being trapped on an isolated planet by a Jedi Knight. Enslaving, abusing, and eventually executing the Jedi's old droid out of petty spite, Rajine continues to lure in people from across the galaxy to kill them and create evermore members of her horrific army, planning to eventually escape her confinement and feed on the life of all beings she can.
  • Empire's issues 32-34 ("In the Shadows of Their Fathers" part 3-5): Regional Governor Thorn Kraym is a treacherous politician who sold his own people out to first the Separatists, and then the Empire, for the sake of money and power. Facilitating the invasion of enemy armies to enslave citizens of Jabiim and crush any resistance, Thorn personally murders the rebel leader Orliss Gillmunn by stabbing him In the Back, securing Jabiim's occupation. Taking up control of the planet, Thorn institutes slave camps and the mass execution of any who stand up to his rule until, becoming tired of constant resistance, Thorn decides to simply sell off most of the population of Jabiim to the Empire to be used as slave labor until death. Fully aware of the Empire's plans to firebomb Jabiim and wipe out any remaining life after spiriting the rest away for labor, Thorn plans to slip off world until the mass murder is complete, then come back and reap the riches of Jabiim's ore all to himself, and takes time before leaving to cheerfully order captured prisoners be executed just to torment Luke Skywalker.
  • Chimamire Sukeban Chainsaw, by Rei Mikamoto:
    • Nero Aoi is a Mad Scientist who serves as the series's Overarching Villain. A previous victim of bullying due to experimenting on animals, Nero decided to take over the world by killing off her classmates and configuring them into an army of remodeled corpses. She creates a serum that causes people to become insane and violent, and keeps her childhood friend Yuto around as a pet to molest and mentally torture. Resurrecting herself, she converts the Volunteer Club into the Guardians, a group of knight templars who kill anyone suspected of sin. Kidnapping Kimberly to lure Geeko and company to her lair, she has them pitted against previously-deceased murderers and forces them to kill a crazed, out of control Kimberly that results in the death of Mizushima. Once again resurrecting herself, she partakes in the Mondokanoke prison where her remodeled corpses are tortured, and later hunts down Geeko and Bakutani once they escape, where she ends up killing Geeko and attempts to resurrect her as her most powerful fighter. Obsessed with fueling her own ego, Nero stood out in this twisted world as a selfish psychopath hated by all.
    • Mari Fuwa, from the final four volumes, is the warden of Mondokanoke, an all-female prison for remodeled corpses. Believing that she can do whatever she wants as the warden, Fuwa creates a festival where she invites rich clients to watch her prisoners engage in grotesque sexual acts and deadly Gladiator Games for their viewing pleasure. Having Geeko imprisoned in order to compete in her gladiator games, Fuwa at one point as Geeko stripped naked, crucified, left out in the cold rain, and whipped after she kills one of her prized prisoners, doing the same to Bakutani after she refuses to partake in the erotic show. Regarding her prisoners as "fools with no hope of a future", Fuwa has them hunt down Geeko and Bakutani in return for their freedom, allowing some bounty hunters to infect them with a gas that makes them kill-crazy.
    • reflesh: Mirei is the true head of the St. Argento Academy. Posing as the academy's student council president, Mirei lures in young girls and remodeled corpses to the academy, where she has them killed to either bathe in their blood or store it in bottles to drink in order to gain power. After Geeko's arrival inspires many first-year students to escape, Mirei personally executes them, laying their naked corpses out in a pile for everyone to see. Desiring Geeko's blood for herself, Mirei uses her tentacle hair to decapitate one of Geeko's friends, before trying to kill Geeko herself.
  • Myriad Colors Phantom World: "Him" is the First Phantom and the supreme deity of the world. Born from the human mind, Him passively watched the world for thousands of years before choosing Touka Kashima, establishing contact with her and making her the first child with special abilities. When Touka's attempt to use the Artificial Phantom Ruppa to destroy the world fails thanks to Haruhiko Ichijou, Him creates a parallel world where Ruppa succeeded and caused the extinction of humanity, which made Him resurrect one third of humanity to keep things interesting. Taking a personal interest in Haruhiko, Him divides Haruhiko's soul to get rid of Haruhiko's optimism and later Him corrupts Haruhiko's partner Marcosias into a violent demon. He does this to screw with Haruhiko's mind and turn him into a being who would eventually attack his own friends and his own counterpart from the original world. Using Touka as his enforcer in the alternate world to keep humanity under constant attack, Him considers humans to be mere actors in his play and causes countless tragedies for his own amusement.
  • The Losers: Captain William Roque is the second-in-command of the titular unit of CIA commandos. Jaded and selfish, Roque eagerly accepts a $250,000 bribe from the shadowy power-broker Max to betray his comrades and become his right-hand man in his plot to create his own nuclear rogue state to destroy the Middle East. Roque reveals his true colors when he frames the other members of the team for a drug-smuggling scheme actually perpetrated by Max, even shooting the agent he called to arrest them to ensure they will be killed in retaliation. He then methodically kills every witness to Max's scheme and hijacks weapons-grade plutonium from French transport ships, again making sure to Leave No Witnesses. Using the plutonium to manufacture over fifty nuclear bombs for Max's plot in the Ghost Town of Pripyat, Ukraine, Roque captures the Losers' pilot Pooch and attempts to dismember him with a pair of pliers before the hacker Jensen manages to turn the tables on him.
  • Turok (Dynamite Comics):
    • 2014 run: Lord Fitzwalter is a crusader in the new world, attacking the Manhattan village and slaughtering or enslaving those he find. Resorting to torture to find non-existent gold, Fitzwalter executes the chief to make a point by throwing him off the top of the fort, and unleashed a T-rex on the woods to kill the others, without care if it eats his captive daughter. Later, to ward off the beast, he intends to throw a native child to it.
    • 2017 run: Imperator Licendor Vex is the cruel ruler of the Varanid Empire that rules the Lost Valley, having set himself up as a god by having every single believer of the Seventy-Seven gods massacred. With torture and murder rampant in his regime, Vex intends to produce an heir through the use of thirteen breeding slaves, intending to regain his libido by butchering and eating several young children to use their flesh to replenish himself.
  • Thousand-Week Reich: Heinrich Himmler is the leader of the SS and one of the key instigators of The Holocaust. In the power struggle following Hitler's death, Himmler takes advantage of the political chaos to seize power for himself. If the power struggle escalates to the point of civil war, Himmler would have no qualms with regards to using nuclear weaponry to destroy his opponents. Upon taking power, he enacts policies to ensure the SS has total control of Germany, enforcing total surveillance of everyday life and the banning of any non-Nazi literature and any scientific discoveries by Jewish scientists under the pretext that they serve as Judeo-Bolshevik propaganda. With power fully secured, Himmler will seek to erase all traces of Jewish and Christian culture in Germany down to the last tenant and replace them with a twisted Neo-Pagan religion, even going as far to declare the formation of a new "Aryan" Empire under his control should he prove deranged enough to do so.
  • Act of Vengeance: Jack becomes the "Jingle Bells" Serial Rapist, sexually assaulting his girlfriend Linda and four other women. After accidentally killing a woman during a failed rape attempt, Jack lures the five women into a trap to try and rape them all again. After killing Teresa and subduing the other women, he tries to kill Linda after she mocks his prowess as a lover.
  • Blade Runner 2049: Niander Wallace is a corporate executive who fancies himself a godly figure. Producing Replicants as slave labor, Wallace intends to find a way to breed them infinitely so as to have the best labor force, demonstrating his control over them by forcing one Replicant to slit its own throat. Later brutally killing a newly made Replicant to make a point, Wallace has his adjunct Luv torture and kill any in her way to find the naturally born daughter of Rick Deckard and the Replicant Rachael. Later offering Deckard a new Rachael, Wallace kills her before dropping any hint at affability and sending Deckard off to be tortured for information.
  • I Saw the Devil: Jang Kyung-chul is a vile, disgusting excuse of a human being who serves as the film's horrifying main antagonist. A lowly bus driver who makes himself feel powerful by raping and killing women, Kyung-chul has killed many innocent people over the years, and opens the film by kidnapping and decapitating the pregnant Joo-yun. When his crimes are exposed, Kyung-chul tries to rape a young student and nurse, before taking up residence at his cannibal friend's house, even raping the man's wife as well. Upon realizing he's being toyed with by Soo-hyun, the vengeful fiance of Joo-yun, Kyung-chul brutally attacks several people to throw Soo-hyun off his trail before beating Soo-hyun's elderly father-in-law half to death, then raping and killing Joo-yun's sister, just to mock Soo-hyun. Feigning remorse when at the mercy of Soo-hyun, Kyung-chul then laughs in Soo-hyun's face and taunts him over the fact that Joo-yun was pregnant when he killed her, proclaiming he feels no regret for any of his crimes and showing himself to be an impulsive sadist who desired to hurt anyone he could, simply because he saw them as either weak, or deserving of their fate.
  • The Losers: Max is a high-ranking government operative, seeking to secure his power base and bring the world into a new order of his design. Opening the film by betraying and trying to kill the titular "Losers" team for outliving their usefulness, Max endangers then murders dozens of children due to his own trigger-happy negligence, after which he frames the Losers for the crime and marks them for death. Kidnapping and forcing a group of scientists to develop sonic weapons capable of leveling entire cities, Max dubs the weapons "Snukes" and plans to sell them on the Black Market so as to kickstart wars across the world, after which himself and his government will take control in the name of "order". Killing his own assistant just for stumbling while shading him from the sun and regularly threatening the lives of his own henchman and other soldiers, Max eventually targets a Snuke at Los Angeles, executes the hostage scientists, and, when confronted by the vengeful Losers, tosses the Snuke's remote deactivator into the ocean to give himself time to flee.
  • The Nice Guys: "John Boy" is a ruthless hitman hired by the Detroit mob to silence Amelia Kuttner and tie up loose ends connected to her. Arriving in Los Angeles and immediately murdering two businessmen who had dealings with Amelia, John Boy tracks Amelia to the home of Holland March, where John Boy threatens and nearly murders March's daughter and her best friend for standing in his way. Killing Amelia with wry amusement, John Boy later stages an attack on the Los Angeles Auto Show to prevent Amelia's filmed exposure of Detroit's criminal dealings from airing, brutally beating the teenage film projectionist and leaving him for dead in his search. Tossing a grenade into a crowd and killing innocents to cause panicked chaos, John Boy tries to kill March and his partner Jackson Healy, as well as anyone else who gets in his way, notably executing three harmless security guards after dispatching them.
  • No Retreat, No Surrender 2: Colonel Yuri is the leader of the Spetsnaz supplying weapons to insurgents, deliberately prolonging a war in the Cambodian-Vietnamese border causing dozens of POWs to be executed on a daily basis. Introduced interrogating a group of POWs near a crocodile pit, Yuri, upon learning one of the prisoners is a fighter, offers the captive the chance fight for freedom, only to deliver a long and brutal beatdown, where Yuri is clearly prolonging his victim's suffering for fun, before allowing the prisoner to leave only to change his mind mere seconds later, shooting the prisoner twice In the Back and throwing him to the crocodiles. Kidnapping Scott's girlfriend Sulin Ngyuen to force General Ngyuen to sign a treaty allowing the Soviets to continue their involvement in the war, Yuri had Sulin, and later Terri, hung by their wrists above the crocodile pit and slowly lower them, coldly telling them they will be eaten "from the legs first". As Scott and Mac raids the base in a daring rescue mission, Yuri abandons his troops, only to show up later trying to ambush the protagonists with a machine-gun, killing Terri in the process.
  • The Report: Jim Mitchell and Bruce Jessen, as depicted in the film, are a pair of psychologists whose greed drives them to create and spread the brutal "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" system across the CIA. Approaching the CIA with the idea to turn their knowledge of military training and psychology into new interrogation tactics against prisoners, Mitchell and Jessen subject two captured terrorists to truly vicious, demeaning tortures, from depriving them of sleep and assaulting them to burying them alive, all to extract information and prove their "EITs" are working. Once getting approval from CIA superiors, Mitchell and Jessen propagate the usage of the EIT throughout CIA installations, leading to hundreds of detainees, even completely innocent men, being horribly tortured in the name of public security, with one prisoner even dying from the relentless torture. Revealed to actually be completely ignorant and unskilled in genuine interrogation and basing their methods on nothing but personal cruelty and ideas, Mitchell and Jessen are shown to be truly smug monsters in the movie, with their last scene showing them cheerfully laughing about how much money they got paid for assisting the CIA in nothing but hurting people, and even bragging that they kept souvenirs from torturing prisoners.
  • A Taste of Killing and Romance: Wong Cheung, a sadistic killer who enjoys his job a little too much, serves as the Foil to protagonist Ko-sau. Introduced in a routine assignment to silence a witness's family, Wong had the witness's mother killed slowly by smothering via cling wrap, before killing the witness's young daughter by force-feeding the child soap detergent, and for good measure shoving the child's puppy into a washing machine with the spin cycle turned on. Seeing Ko-sau as a Worthy Opponent, Wong seeks to lure Ko out for a direct challenge, by killing a cop and torturing one of Ko's associates into revealing Ko's next hit, and then stabbing the associate to death despite promising to release her. After brutally killing his own superior, Ice, by strangling her with gym equipment, Wong then kidnaps Ko's protégé-cum-Love Interest Yu-feng to lure Ko into a direct confrontation. Slicing off two of Yu-feng's fingers to torture her, Wong shoots her non-fatally in the shoulder before stepping on her wounds to intimidate Ko with her screams. When their eventual confrontation is interrupted by the Marine police, Wong shoots Ko-sau dead right as he is reunited with Yu-feng.
  • Tenet: Andrei Sator, dying of cancer, intends to take the entire world with him out of spite. Forming a "Deal with the Devil", Andrei pressured art dealer Kat into marrying him and having a son. Abusive to Kat, she begged for a chance to leave him, with Andrei only assenting if she left their son forever just to hurt her. Andrei beats a man to death with a gold bar for touching his gold supply, later tortures Kat to push the Protagonist into giving him information, and uses inversion to place himself back when he forced Kat to stay with him, intending on ending everything that ever was with the Algorithm at the time when he felt his life was perfect.
  • Zero Minus Ten: Guy Thackeray is a British shipping magnate in Hong Kong who is furious about the transfer to the Chinese government on account of losing his company to an obscure clause from his ancestors. Arranging terrorist attacks and many murders, including that of his board of directors, Thackeray intends to destroy Hong Kong with a nuke after fraying the tense peace to the breaking point, With this, Thackeray hopes to kick off a war between Britain and China to punish both countries and sate his spiteful ego.
  • Jonathan, first appearing in Touch the Dark, is a leader of the Black Circle who for over 900 years has tortured vampires for days or even weeks, bringing them back from the edge of death, only to resend them to near death over and over again in order to gain power to rejuvenate himself. Desiring to return the gods in order to increase his power, Jonathan, over his long run in the series, attempts to kill the pregnant woman who carries the heir to faerie in order to start a civil war between the fey which could kill thousands; tortures Louise-Cesare to near death; unleashes zombie vampires to kill the North American Vampire Senate; tries to crash magical Hong Kong into normal Hong Kong—which would kill millions—in order to create an energy wave to exterminate the various Vampire Senates which oppose the gods; tries to unleash the Ancient Horrors in order to conquer; grafts the skin and ghosts of creatures and people to himself in order to gain their powers, keeping them in agonizing pain; and later painfully experiments with the souls of hundreds of deceased soldiers, warping them.
  • Deltora Quest:
    • The Shadow Lord—born Malverlain, a mortal sorcerer from Dorne—was exiled by his brothers after a fight for the throne. Arriving on an isle where four sisters sung with beautiful voices, his hatred for their singing made him imprison them far apart from each other and later kill them. Upon arriving in Deltora, he tricks the Pirrans into breaking up the Pirran Pipe that was defending them and then invaded Pirra, turning it into the Shadowlands. Eventually becoming an Eldritch Abomination, the Shadow Lord invaded Deltora with its armies, slaughtering thousands before being driven back by the King wielding the Belt of Deltora. For a millennium, the Shadow Lord implanted spies to manipulate the royal family, until finally breaking the Belt and invading a second time. Subjecting the land to a tyrannical reign of oppression and capturing thousands of Deltorans for experimentation, he was only defeated a second time by the reassembled Belt. The Shadow Lord was then revealed to have implanted creatures called Sisters slowly poisoning the land, but when destroyed would release the grey tide that would kill everyone.
    • Laughing Jack, aka James Gant, is a Con Artist and servant of the Shadow Lord, who swore servitude in exchange for power. Captaining a ship with a rigged gambling room, indebted losers became slaves forced to row the oars. Tasked with turning off Bonepoint lighthouse, Jack scams Red Han the keeper with an unpayable debt, before taking his daughter Verity hostage. Enticing his mutinous crew with gold, Verity magically binds this vow. Jack murders her in retaliation, cursing the ship and everyone who died with undeath. Surviving, Jack magically turns Red Han into a horse and abuses him. Jack becomes a moneylender and scams people of their money, property, and sometimes lives. Ordered to dispose of a boy possessing the Belt of Deltora, he planned to throw them into a whirlpool. Later he captures his sister Ava, dressing as her to trick the heroes to their deaths. After failing, Jack takes Jasmine hostage and demands the Belt of Deltora, planning to use Ava to accept the Belt and then kill her.
  • Firefly: Big Damn Hero: Hunter Covington is a Sadist to rival Adelai Niska. Working with a remnant faction of Browncoats to trap, try, and hang "traitors" to the Independent cause, Covington has no problem with the fact that these people are to be summarily executed by a Kangaroo Court, and stops by to watch Mal's planned execution because watching a man die by hoist hanging is his idea of a shiny evening's entertainment. He also keeps at least one bondswoman, who he plans to kill slowly by serious knife play for informing on him to the Feds. His neutrality during the war is explicitly because it was more profitable not to choose a side.
  • "Flanaganverse":
    • Ranger's Apprentice:
      • The Icebound Land: Lord Deparnieux, one of many warlords ruling over pockets of territory in the lawless country of Gallica, is a petty thug who doesn't pretend his reign is anything but one of terror. Deparnieux searches for any excuse possible to terrorize innocents, forcing a servant to pick a punishment for a cook who served cold vegetables; when given the option of flogging, Deparnieux opts to flog the servant and have the cook left to die in a cage. Deparnieux adores the cages, having dozens of subjects caged up and left outside to be pecked to death by birds for any reason he can think of, most of which he cheerfully admits can be boiled down to "displeasing him". Deparnieux toys with and murders a young man whose elderly parents Deparnieux randomly murdered, and tries to goad the noble Ranger Halt into a similar duel solely so Deparnieux has an excuse to kill him.
      • The Kings of Clonmel & Halt's Peril: Tennyson is the leader of the Outsiders, a Scam Religion that extorts riches out of innocent people by pretending their god protects them from raiders that are secretly under the Outsiders' control. Tennyson regularly has villages annihilated, leaving at most a few survivors to spread the word and sometimes none whatsoever to illustrate what would happen if he isn't able to "intervene" in an attack. Tennyson assassinates King Ferris after Horace makes a fool out of him; tries everything to dispose of Horace from drugs to rigged duels; murders an innocent family of farmers; and finally abandons his own men to die in his pathetic attempt to escape and abscond with his ill-gotten riches. Despite his appearance as a holy man, Tennyson was nothing more than a greedy crook who thought he deserved everything the world had to offer.
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ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#229636: Sep 21st 2020 at 10:29:17 AM

As for District 9, do this?

  • Obesandjo, the leader of the Nigerian gangsters, sets up his racket in District 9 and distributes cat food to the aliens, which is like a drug that keeps them hooked. He also offers "interspecies prostitution," offering them human women. The worst, however, is when he has innocent aliens butchered, so he can eat their flesh and gain their power. When he captures Wikus, he fully plans to cut off his Prawn parts and eat them himself.

EDIT:

Edited by ACW on Sep 21st 2020 at 1:35:54 PM

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#229637: Sep 21st 2020 at 10:31:00 AM

Galaxy War: is Mnson supposed to be "Manson"?

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#229638: Sep 21st 2020 at 10:34:15 AM

On YMMV.Halo, the CM entry had "allowed Mercy to die by the parasitic Flood for no reason at all" changed to "and allowed Mercy to be killed by the Flood in order to seize absolute power over the Covenant". Is that the kind of edit that needs approval?

My impression is the only edits that don't need approval were for grammar and typos.

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#229639: Sep 21st 2020 at 10:37:20 AM

[up][up] I actually don't think so.

[up]Hmm, you're right, though I don't hate the edit.

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#229640: Sep 21st 2020 at 10:42:14 AM

Well it's objectively incorrect to say it was for "no reason" if it was a power play. May as well just change it on the Sandbox page so it can get altered on the swap day.

ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#229642: Sep 21st 2020 at 11:38:23 AM

Some pothole suggestions:

Julayla64 Since: Mar, 2011
#229643: Sep 21st 2020 at 11:38:52 AM

According to the user from Reddit, Wraithdagger 12, this is what he has to say about Toffee from the Star vs Reddit category on why he's a complete monster: "I would say he's much more complex than that, but he certainly descended into that, as you describe.

Toffee lost sight of humanity (figurative). His goals - his revenge - were his only drive, nothing else. We can't know if he really was thinking about 'the greater good' for his people, or if he was really trying to achieve peace albeit in a really roundabout way, but what we can see says it all.

Again, Toffee betrayed Ludo, threw Buff Frog under the bus, lied to Moon that he killed her daughter, and at the end of it all, he was alone. He put himself so far out in front that he cared for no one other than himself.

Those who stand alone, fail. Those who come together, even under the worst of circumstances, give themselves a chance to succeed. That's one of the biggest lessons the show taught us."

Would this mean that he IS a complete monster and he should be added or not? I don't know. I even asked if this is what Daron sees him to actually be (a knight templer complete monster)? Because you guys say he's not. I'm so confused right now.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#229644: Sep 21st 2020 at 11:45:14 AM

First off, we don't really pay attention to what a person on reddit has to say. By our criteria, Toffee is a no

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#229645: Sep 21st 2020 at 11:49:41 AM

Or well any other site it's in the rules..

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
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#229646: Sep 21st 2020 at 11:53:36 AM

What about [other site] that insists this character is a CM?: We don't care what other sites think. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

I hope that cleared everything up.

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#229647: Sep 21st 2020 at 11:58:23 AM

Complete Monster here is quite strictly defined. There seemed to be the same confusion about 2003!Envy being removed by third parties who cited him having no redeeming qualities. With Toffee I'll concur his good intent can be questioned, the fact he flunks the heinous standard is another issue and he's much more suited to Magnificent Bastard than this.

Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
#229648: Sep 21st 2020 at 12:19:50 PM

What's the work?

Haven: Call of the King is a 2002 playstation 2 Action-Adventure game developed by Traveller's Tales and published by Midway Games and was planned to be the first part of a trilogy. The game's plot revolved around the titular character, Haven. After receiving a dream about the "Golden Voice", he's become targeted by the evil Lord Vetch. After his friend, Chess, is captured thanks to this dream, Haven sets out to rescue her and find out the secret behind this dream.

Long story short, it was hyped as a masterpiece that was going to revolutionize the industry but instead, we got an "okay" platformer with some tedious parts.

Who is he?

The Big Bad Lord Vetch is a Palpatinesque galaxy overlord who has enslaved entire planets as he boasts himself in the opening. To ensure their servitude, Vetch infected every slave with a deadly virus requiring a constant dose of antidote called Catana.

He also wears a black robe, a skull mask and has a deep raspy voice in case you couldn't tell he's bad.

What has he done?

Long ago, the evil Lord conqueror Vetch desired to conquer the people of Aurius but couldn't as their King Athelion was too strong for him. Athelion was called away to join his father and fight in the Galactic Crusades. On the Mount of Sighs, the good king left a giant bell, the Golden Voice, which was to be rung to call his return should he ever be needed.

Vetch seized the opportunity, bribed a councilman and infected the whole population with the virus. He then hid the bell by building a fortress around it and did his best to erase Athelion from the memory.

The game starts thousand years later. The young Haven is one of the slaves who work in the mine. Having recuring dreams about the Golden Voice, he's hunted by Vetch minions who learned about it thanks to a spy.

At the start of the game, Vetch's dragon -The Overlord- abducts Haven's friend Chess to lure the hero. After his defeat, one of Vetch's servant worries that the prophecy of the Golden Voice might come true. The tyrant predictably fries the poor guys and asks another if he fears Haven more than him.

Eventually, Haven finds and rings the bell on the Mount of Sighs but ignores the warming that he must stays in the Tower in order to rescue Chess once again. Sadly, it turns out that Chess was Vetch' mole and lured him out of the citadel on purpose as the Mount of Sighs would have weakens Vetch. Indeed, the prophecy states that Athelion would return to the bellringer first. Inside Vetch's forteress, Athelion is indeed powerless.

Having no further uses for the boy, Vetch prepares to fry Haven (because his corpse can still attract the King). When Chess protests that he promised to spare her friend, he declares they can both die together.

Athelion arrives just in time and announces he will surrender only if Haven and Chess are spared. Vetch obliges, sends the two to their cells and drags Athelion to the Mount of Sighs.

There, he chains the good king, reveals his intention of killing Haven anyway and painfully murders Athelion with a heavy dose of virus.

Haven, having escaped the citadel (the guards literally forgot to lock the door lol), faces the monster in an ultimate battle… and loses.

However Vetch somehow can't kill the boy. It turns out that the power of the Mount of Sighs made him invicible. So Vetch chains him next the Athelion's corpse and simply leaves him alone on the planet.

THE END

Well obviously, it was supposed to be a cliffhanger leading to a sequel but since the game flopped, Haven has been chained to that rock for the last 18 years as far as we know.

Heinousness

I think he goes way above the baseline with the way he enslaves people with a deadly virus to keep them in line. On top of other nasty moments, like killing a minion out of frustration, tossing his spy under the bus, painfully killing the king and condemning the hero to a Fate Worse than Death.

Mitigating Factors

Do you expect someone who look like this to have redeeming features?

Now, YMMV.Haven Call Of The King potholes Vetch as a Generic Doomsday Villain twice for being "a stereotypical evil dark overload who wants to enslave the Galaxy". This statement is accurate - as he’s definitely NOT an original and deep character - but I think he still displays personality traits like impatience, cruelty and sadism .In particular, the way he condemn the hero to a Fate Worse than Death isn’t something a true GDV would pull IMO. See here

Verdict Methink he’s an easy keeper.

Edited by Silverblade2 on Sep 21st 2020 at 9:40:44 PM

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