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Welcome to the Complete Monster proposal thread! This is the thread where new Complete Monster examples are vetted, approved, and written up. If you're looking for the general cleanup thread (for cuts, rewrites, expansions, and the like), please go here

Important: Before suggesting any new examples, please read the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List; if you have any questions, the odds are high they are answered there. Additionally, please check here for the earliest date a work can be discussed (usually two weeks from the U.S. release date) and whether the work has already been reserved by another user.

Here is how the process works:

    Process 

  1. If you have a candidate to propose, you can simply come right in and propose them! If the character's run is brief, such as a single issue of a comic book, then a simple summary of their actions and any potential redeeming qualities will be enough; for longer-running candidates, an effortpost (EP) might be helpful for organizing the proposal. An EP is not outright required, but please be mindful that if a post becomes too clunky and unorganized, it can be very hard for other people to follow.

  2. After the proposal, there will be a 72-hour discussion and voting period, where people may ask questions and vote on the candidate. The number of upvotes must outnumber the downvotes by at least five for the character to be considered "approved".

  3. Three days after the proposal has been made, if the character has been approved, you may post the writeup (the text to be posted on the trope page itself) on the thread and send it to the drafts page. Your candidate will soon be added to the CM subpage. If the work has a page, you should add your candidate to the relevant YMMV page. Voila! It's that simple!

Outside of this process, we do have a few ground rules:

    Ground Rules 

  1. To keep the thread moving at a reasonable pace, there are some restrictions on when a proposal can be made. There should only be a maximum of four EPs posted both per page and per hour to ensure that nothing gets lost in the shuffle; additionally, each individual troper should only be proposing or writing up characters from a maximum of three works at a time (from initial proposals to end of their voting period). If your proposal would fall outside of either of these guidelines, we'd like to ask you to please wait until they would fit within; feel free to type them up on an outside document, and then when the time comes, you can just copy, paste, and post!

  2. No plagiarism of any kind. This is a very serious matter site-wide, as the website could get in actual legal trouble over this; as a result, this can very quickly lead to mod intervention. This can take many different forms:
    1. Direct plagiarism, i.e. wholesale copying. This is not only the easiest to find, but is also the most likely to warrant quick moderator intervention. To be clear, quoting in some places is perfectly acceptable, but it has to be very clear you're quoting from something else and it cannot be anything longer than a sentence or two - if you're quoting an entire work summary from Wikipedia, no one is going to believe you've actually consumed the work, so even if you cite your source, your candidate will be downvoted anyway.
    2. Self-plagiarism. Even if you can prove that you wrote the same text in both places, the site itself can't contain any of the duplicated text. If you already wrote something once before, it's not too hard to write it a second time.
    3. Using another site's work as a template for a proposal. Just because you don't copy and paste something directly doesn't mean it's any harder to detect if you're basing parts or all of your proposal on text someone else wrote. To be clear, this doesn't violate site rules and won't lead to mod intervention, but just like if you directly plagiarize, no one will believe you've consumed the work if you're clearly basing your proposal on something else. This thread largely operates on the honor system, and tweaking someone else's work to pass it off as your own is one of the fastest ways to lose trust.

  3. Votes must be for specific candidates, meaning no blanket voting (i.e. "yes to everyone I missed").

  4. If you are the first person to downvote a candidate, please provide an explanation of why when you do so. We're here for discussions above all, and a hit-and-run downvote doesn't facilitate anything.

  5. If a work is already reserved by another user, please don't comment on the work or any potential characters worth discussion before the discussion date. We know how exciting it is when a work has a keeper that you're waiting to talk about, but it's not fair to the person who reserved the work who is just as excited to lead the discussion to see the discussion getting spoiled before they get to do it. On the other hand, if the reservation only has one name attached, shoot them a PM - they may be down for a collaboration, which will get you in on the fun as well!

  6. Please keep the thread on-topic. While discussing the trope is fun and we encourage people to enjoy it, questions like "who's your favorite CM" are off-topic and can lead to thumps. That's the kind of question to take to people's PMs if they're willing. Similarly, while we encourage friendliness and familiarity with other users, posts should always have some kind of thread-relevant purpose; for instance, if you want to wish someone a happy birthday, feel free to, but if it's the only thing in the post, it's off-topic and needs something else alongside it. Again, though, while we strive for a friendly atmosphere, this is not Facebook; life updates are fun, but unless they have some kind of impact on your thread participation, please do not bring it here - we have Yack Fest for that.

  7. Please refrain from asking anything along the lines of "How Did We Miss This One?" In almost every case, the answer is simply "No one thought about it before". This Is a Wiki where everyone has different interests, and the fact that people missed a particular candidate, even one that seems like a textbook example of a trope or a character who is particularly iconic in pop culture, means absolutely nothing. The question is disruptive, has a simple and consistent answer, and provides nothing to any discussion.

  8. If you are suspended from parts of the website, it is still possible to participate!
    1. For users who are suspended from editing the wiki, you still have full access to this thread. You can propose candidates and write them up with no issues whatsoever; while you will have to ask someone else to post the entry to the relevant pages once it is done, all write-ups are considered thread-approved - as in, done by consensus - and thus doing so does not violate any rules regarding meatpuppeting.
    2. If you are suspended from the forums, your participation is limited but not impossible. It is still possible for a forum-suspended user to assist in creating the write-up for a character who has already been approved; as previously mentioned, write-ups are inherently considered a consensus-based edit and thus not tied to any one particular user. However, you can not assist in the proposal of a character; as a proposal is based around the forum rather than the wiki, doing so with a forum suspension qualifies as meatpuppeting.

  9. Please keep all discussions "in-house".
    1. What other wikis use for CM equivalents is irrelevant here.
    2. Please be wary of using other wikis, Fandom or otherwise, as sources of information. They are just as fallible as a site like Wikipedia in regards to accuracy because they can be edited by any user, just as this site can.
    3. Do not attempt to force a communication with an author in an attempt to gather evidence or settle a debate; besides the fact that this is a YMMV trope and thus author intent has variable weight depending on the circumstance, doing so may cross the line into drama exportation, which is prohibited site-wide.

If you would like to use an EP for your candidate, here's the general format. This format does not have to be followed exactly, but these are the main topics that need to be covered:

    Effortpost Template 

What is the work?

This is a brief summary of the work you're going to discuss. We don't need a full plot summary here, just however much we need to understand going into the discussion — it can even be as simple as quoting the summary on the work's page.

Who is the candidate and what have they done?

This is essentially the character's biography — who they are, their story, the crimes they commit, and, preferably (though not required), what happens to the candidate at the end. It does not have to include every single thing they ever do — for some villains, we'd be here all day if that was the case — but it should include the highlights of their journey.

Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?

This is where any potential redeeming characteristics or tragic backstory should be discussed. Do they have a tragic past? Do they show that Even Evil Has Standards or Even Evil Has Loved Ones? Maybe a Pet the Dog moment or two? This is where these should be discussed in full. Not every potential redeeming moment is a clear-cut disqualifier, but we should hear of any potential issues to ensure the character is discussed in full.

Are they bad enough?

A Complete Monster has to be particularly vile by the standard of the work they appear in. Therefore, you should look at what the character does compared to similar characters in the same work. This takes into account things like:

  • Their resource level (a human Serial Killer can't stand up to an alien Omnicidal Maniac, but they can be bad by the standard of other human serial killers)
  • The amount of time they have to work with (such as a one-shot character versus long-running antagonists)
  • The quantity vs. quality of their crimes compared to others (someone with a lower victim count but far more visceral and personal crimes could be considered as equally bad overall as someone with a higher body count but less horror involved)

Essentially, this section is an analysis of the kinds of villainy shown in the work and an explanation of why this particular character's villainy stands out within it.

Final verdict?

This is where you post your final conclusion on the character in question. You can continue elaborating on your reasons or even just say a simple "yes" or "no"; at this point, we've heard everything we need to hear.

IMPORTANT NOTICE: This thread tackles very serious and dark matters on a daily basis. We will be discussing things like murder, rape, torture, human trafficking, crimes against children, and in particularly dark cases, several of these issues at the same time. We keep a lighthearted air, but all candidates carry the general assumption that these are awful individuals committing disgusting crimes. We ask that if you participate, you do so with the requisite seriousness such dark topics require; exclamations of how gross something is, whether serious or sarcastic, are disrespectful to the topics at hand, and if you cannot handle such topics, please do not participate.

And that's everything you need to know. Welcome to the thread!


Edited by Twiddler on Jan 17th 2024 at 5:42:49 AM

Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
#12826: Apr 30th 2023 at 9:23:55 AM

Yes to Sekhmet but no to Thoth

REALITY IS AN ILLUSION, THE UNIVERSE IS A HOLOGRAM, BUY GOLD BYEEEE! | She/Her
TotemGenitor Bye Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#12828: Apr 30th 2023 at 10:12:42 AM

[tup]Cassandra.

And that quote is too good imo not to go to the quote page

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
G-Editor Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#12830: Apr 30th 2023 at 10:34:19 AM

  • Waking the Dead
  • Reunion (link): Brainiac started out as a Kryptonian supercomputer who desired to possess perfect data about Krypton. Sabotaging attempts to discover an upcoming catastrophe, Brainiac abandons his dying planet to venture into the cosmos. Collecting all valuable information about civilisations he discovers before destroying the rest, Brainiac eventually comes to Earth. After being defeated by the Justice League, Brainiac attempts to collect data about Apokolips before making a deal with Darkseid. Coming back to the Solar System, Brainiac destroys the Martian civilisation, leaving the Martian Manhunter as the only survivor. Brainiac uses Apokoliptian technology to mind control Superman, planning to hand him over to Darkseid as per their agreement. Brainiac once again attempts to collect valuable relics from Earth before destroying the planet, planning to make the rest of the League his trophies.
  • Dual Disposition: Lady A. is Anna Gray from an Alternate Dimension, who decided to become the most powerful being in The Multiverse. Gaining many enemies when she started to destroy magical sources in several dimensions, Lady A. started to seek a magical goblet and manipulated Anna into giving a goblet to her. Becoming extremely powerful, Lady A. started to cause the destruction of Anna's dimension, before she was thwarted by the Keeper and Anna. Returning in the bonus chapter, Lady A. trapped the Keeper outside of his tower and then started to absorb the energy from the magic source in the control room, which threatened to destroy many worlds, something she openly doesn't care about.
  • Moira Queen is Oliver's mother and the architect of his most brutal downfall. Acting through her second-in-command Cyrus Broderick, Moira ruins Oliver's life by framing him for a series of murders, first targeting his secretary Wendy Poole, then having the Dark Archer assassinate Green Arrow's critics. Moira also hires the sadistic mercenary Eddie Fyers to conduct a scheme designed to restart a Middle Eastern war, intending to exploit the conflict for the purpose of boosting her company's profits. When that fails, Moira systematically has hundreds of people killed and Seattle's economy crashed as part of a gambit to take over the city. After her plans are disrupted by Green Arrow, Moira tries to appease her superiors by scapegoating Broderick, before re-entering Oliver's life to manipulate him into feeling sorry for her. In a last-ditch attempt to evade her bosses' ire, Moira tries to kill her own son several times, taking sadistic pleasure when one of these attempts almost kills Emiko instead.
  • "Shibboleth": Frank McNare is a repulsive Serial Killer with a penchant for targeting young, physically fit women. Choosing his victim, Frank would then strip them to their underwear and tie them up by their neck and ankles, causing the victim to asphyxiate themselves when they got too tired from holding their position. A sadist at heart, Frank would repeatedly taunt the police by sending letters about their failure, and in one instance forced an officer to hear the dying pleas of one of his victims. Despite stopping his killings due to marrying a woman who'd he repeatedly abuse, Frank resumes his homicides when diagnosed with cancer. Hearing his son, who he had abandoned, was a suspect for his latest murder spree, Frank happily lets him take the fall for his crimes, viewing him as weak and pathetic.
  • Creator Viktor, from the Battlecast universe, lacks his main continuity incarnation's positive traits. A Control Freak who wants all life on Runeterra to be under his thumb, Viktor has forcibly transformed countless champions and citizens into enslaved robots by placing their brains in monstrous cyborg bodies. Viktor uses his powerful slaves to round up more organic life for him to roboticize, as well as simply massacre any pockets of resistance to his rule. His actions having killed Miss Fortune's parents and reduced many champions to traumatized resistance fighters, Viktor's reign is so horrible that even the souls of his many victims are kept in constant torment inside their machine bodies, only able to be freed and find peace through the work of Yorick.
  • Warwick, The Blood Hunter: Despite his current status as a Tragic Monster, two of Warwick's past reworks were wholly evil:
    • Second rework: Warwick was once the alchemist mentor of Singed himself, who used his scientific knowledge to supply Noxus with a vast array of chemical weapons that were used to devastate Ionia and kill countless innocent men, women, and children. Running heinous experiments on human subjects with Singed in the meantime, Warwick was cursed by the Starchild Soraka to become as monstrous in appearance as he was in heart after she witnessed the results of his weapons; Warwick quickly embraced his newfound wolf-like physiology and continued slaughtering Ionians, but now with his bare hands.
    • Third rework: Warwick was a hunter and alchemist who specialized in "procuring" human subjects for himself and other scientists to use as disposable guinea pigs and mutation fodder. Using a variety of cruel methods to round up his targets, Warwick singled out Soraka, Ionia's Starchild, as his latest victim. He murdered a woman and claimed she was his wife to generate sympathy from Soraka, and grew close to her as a friend to lure her into a trap and try to carve out her heart. When Soraka escaped and humiliated hm, Warwick drank a half-completed potion that transformed him into a monstrous beast so that he could better hunt her down and eat her heart out of her chest. In the meantime, Warwick began indulging in his bloodlust and, rather than experiment on victims, he would instead just kill them by the score.
  • Void is far worse than in the show. Envious because he is incapable of creating universes like other gods, Void joins his brother Light in his plan to become the most powerful beings in existence. Void kills countless gods and enables his brother to steal energy from their universes, killing all beings in them. Banished to Remnant, Void joins his brother in slaughtering all of humanity before being sealed away. He makes contact with Salem and empowers her to murder her father and create the Creatures of Grimm, promising her godhood if she frees him. Finally freed, Void depowers Salem and absorbs all Grimm into himself, creating a massive black hole to devour all of Remnant.
  • Briar issues #2-4: Deadcrawl is Grendrid's servant tasked with retrieving Princess Briar. In his search, Deadcrawl kills the tavern keeper who spotted Briar before massacring the village of Bog Witches and burning down their swamp. Finding Briar in the gnome village, Deadcrawl and his men butcher the gnomes before setting the forest on fire and almost killing Briar's companions.
  • "That Yellow Bastard": Ethan Roark Jr. is the son of a crooked Senator with the appearance of a handsome, young playboy. Really a sadistic pedophile, Jr. moonlights as a rapist and killer of preteen girls, particularly enjoying their screams as he attacks them. His crimes covered up by Roark Sr., he is eventually caught by heroic cop John Hartigan as he abducts the young Nancy Callahan, Hartigan crippling and castrating him before he can attack the girl. His father having Hartigan imprisoned for revenge, Jr. kidnaps the adult Nancy and prepares to torture, rape, and kill her, boasting to Hartigan of the many—possibly dozens—of victims he took while the latter was incarcerated.
  • The Colonel, also known as The Salesman, is one of the top enforcers in Herr Wallenquist's Basin City Mob. He runs and partakes in a clandestine division of contract killers, also recruiting and corrupting new trainees into killing machines, inducing one of them to murder the only man she ever loved before assigning her the codename "Blue Eyes". The Colonel's largest operation is the "Human Resources" division, a massive kidnapping, brainwashing, organ harvesting and sexual slavery operation. He brutally kills off one of his henchmen and murders his male lover on the off chance that the hero Wallace might track the minion down. When the loyalty of Lt. Leibowitz might falter, the Colonel threatens to have his entire family killed and orders his teenage son's arm to be broken as a warning. The Colonel is a sociopath who displays no character traits other than hinting at a wish to direct the bodies of the people around him, to see their "full potential" realized.
  • Darkseid:
    • This top threat of the entire DCAU is the tyrannical ruler of the wasteland planet Apokolips, and ultimately desires total dominion over all life in the universe. To achieve this end, he forever seeks the cosmic power of the Anti-Life Equation to use as the ultimate weapon. Incapable of love or empathy, he abused his loyal son Kalibak, handed over his adopted son Scott Free to be tortured and brainwashed by Granny Goodness, and attempted to murder his other son, Orion, for opposing him. His servants are likewise subjected to torture or death should they fail or even question him. Setting his sights on conquering Earth, Darkseid launched a full-scale invasion, only relenting when the planet was declared off-limits by Apokolips's sister planet, New Genesis. To compensate, Darkseid murdered Dan Turpin solely to spite Superman. He would make numerous more attempts to conquer or annihilate the planet, including attempting to destroy it with a comet and brainwashing Superman into leading an attack on his adopted world. These events led to Superman being taken advantage by Darkseid's Female Furies while in his altered state of mind, and eventually turned Superman into a pariah for years. He later attempted to use Brainiac's programming to collect the Anti-Life Equation, planning to destroy the entire universe and recreate it in his own image, leading to his death in a battle with Superman. Upon his resurrection, Darkseid immediately launched another invasion on Earth, not out of a desire for power, but solely to make Superman suffer. Ruthless and tyrannical, Darkseid is Superman's greatest enemy, and one of the few villains he has outright tried to kill.
    • The Superman Adventures tie-in comic: Darkseid, after failing to conquer Earth thanks to the intervention of New Genesis, respects his treaty with New Genesis despite his desire to torture Superman's friends, until the reveal that it was a distraction to build the Armageddon Cannon and destroy New Genesis without warning. Contacting Lex Luthor to buy a captured Livewire, Darkseid uses Livewire's powers to turn Apokolips's furnaces into fuel. Then, Darkseid orders a test of the Armageddon Cannon on Earth as revenge for their past resistance, with a chained Superman as the first victim. When a shocked Lex asks for explanations, Darkseid calls himself Life and Death and orders him to shut up and become his new general. After Superman and Livewire wreck the Armaggedon Cannon, Darkseid lets them return to Earth, expecting that the explosion of the supercharged Livewire would kill Superman and the people of Metropolis.
  • Batman: Soul of the Dragon: The Great Nāga is an ancient, powerful demon desiring to lead his fellow Nāgas to spread death and destruction across the world. Influencing the Kobra cult to perform sacrifices in order to free himself, the Great Nāga abandons Jeffrey Burr to perish upon being freed instead of using him as an Avatar, as he planned to use Richard Dragon as a vessel instead. Brutally beating down Batman, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, and Bronze Tiger, the Great Nāga openly desires to lay waste upon Earth and tries to take over Richard Dragon's body by force.
  • Batman: The Doom That Came to Gotham:
    • Ra's al Ghul is a dark priest and a servant of an Outer God, Iog-Sotha. Uncovering the secrets of the ancient Serpents, Ra's desired to unleash Iog-Sotha upon the world, which would have resulted in the planet's destruction. Spreading a horde of reptiles across Gotham, Ra's had the brainwashed Grendon killed, using his remains to create Poison Ivy, whom he used to painfully mutate Harvey Dent into "The Door". Performing a ritual to release Iog-Sotha, Ra's turned into a monster to kill Bruce Wayne, before using his last strength to keep the portal open to ensure that Iog-Sotha will cross over to Earth and annihilate humanity.
    • Talia al Ghul is the last remaining member of the Cult of Ghul, who wants to help her father destroy the world. Killing Kirk Langstrom and leaving his corpse in Wayne Manor to manipulate Bruce Wayne to locate the Testament of Ghul for her, Talia also painfully murdered Professor Munford by having a Djinn to devour him from the inside. Sending Killer Croc to retrieve Grendon, which resulted in him brutally tearing apart Dick Grayson, Talia resurrected her father and assisted him in his rituals, openly desiring to cause the end of humanity out of fanaticism.
  • The Owl House:
    • Emperor Belos, the manipulative ruler of the Boiling Isles, started off as nothing more than Philip Wittebane, an orphan-turned-Puritanical Witch Hunter. When his beloved elder brother Caleb Wittebane left to the Demon Realm with a witch, Philip crossed worlds and tracked him down, only to find Caleb in love with the witch. Unable to reconcile his beliefs with his brother's "betrayal", Philip murdered Caleb, then fled into the Boiling Isles and devoted the rest of his life to devising a realm-wide genocide. To do this, Philip tracked down the godlike Collector—tricking, betraying and killing off a slew of witches and demons in the process—and slowly built himself up as the Demon Realm's Dark Messiah. In one instance, Belos wiped out an entire city, then tested a prototype of his Coven sigils—the method with which he seeks to enact his "draining spell" to wipe out all life on the Isles—on the survivors, leaving them for dead when the process left them comatose. As overlord of the Isles, Belos engages in a variety of atrocities, from duping all of his loyal followers into a scheme he knows will kill them all, to consuming the souls of thousands of Palismen and keeping them in writhing torment within him. Even his love for Caleb has become nothing but a twisted abstract; Belos creates "Grimwalker" clones of Caleb he seeks to mold into a servile accessory, murdering them so often that a chasm has been clogged with heaps of their decaying corpses. Belos subjects the current Grimwalker, Hunter, to an agonizing and scarring possession and forces him to kill his own Palisman, Flapjack, out of nothing but cruel spite. In the end, Belos cares for nothing and no one except "his need to be the hero in his own delusion."
    • Odalia Blight, initially seen as a controlling, status-obsessed parent, turns out to be far worse. With little care for her husband Alador or their three children—the former of whom she forces to submit to her will by threatening to have the latter labor in their factories—Odalia arranges a deal with the monstrous Emperor Belos to willingly facilitate his utter genocide of the Boiling Isles so she can elevate the Blights to royalty, and abandons her family when they reject her "generosity".
  • A Different Snowgrave: Spamton G. Spamton is the psychotic and sadistic salesman from Cyber City who manages to be even worse than his incarnation in the Weird Route. Aiding the SOUL with their massacre around Cyber City by giving them the Thorn Ring, Spamton tortures Noelle both physically and mentally, thus resulting in her using Snowgrave on Kris. Shortly after Kris's presumed death, the salesman hides behind a cardbox and discovers Queen's giant robot, so he goes to her castle and uploads himself inside it, succeeding at taking over Cyber City. When Noelle—who was partially possessed by the SOUL—was walking towards the fountain, Spamton shows up himself to congratulate the player, only to try burning Noelle alive when she cast Snowgrave on him and saw they wanted to seal the fountain. After emerging the scraps of Spamton GIGA, he knocks Noelle with his arm cannon, claiming that every action has consequences before cackling maniacally, after saying he gave the player the "biggest shot of your [life]".
  • Ninjago fanfic Timelines (link): The Overlord, in the Alternate Timeline where his first cyber attack was successful, possesses Kai and brainwashes Nya into being his general, with both siblings fully aware of their predicament. The Overlord has his army conquer Ninjago and establishes torture and cyborg-converting facilities, chipping most of the population into being his slaves. After he kills Lloyd but fails to capture his spirit, the Overlord uses Kai's powers to torture Pythor and tear his arm off. The Overlord puts the remaining Ninja into his torture facilities for seven years. After learning from Pythor that Lloyd from the alternate timeline was spotted, the Overlord has him turned into a pile of ash and sends Nya to capture Lloyd. After capturing and torturing Garmadon, the Overlord faces the ninja and their allies, intending to kill them all himself.
  • Skylanders Academy fanfic New Horizon: Omen is a childish yet sadistic being from another world who seeks to bring his whole body to Skylands. Encountering a young dragon named Cyrus, Omen proceeded to twist him into a Tyke Bomb through horrific abuse, giving him a torture brand that could be used to give Cyrus horrific pain for the smallest infractions, all the while constantly abusing and belittling the young dragon and rendering him unable to sleep due to the pain and nightmares he suffered. To further his arrival, Omen brainwashed six other young dragons into his obedient soldiers with the intent of sacrificing them alongside two other dragons. During his first fight against the Skylanders, Omen punishes Cyrus for not telling him that they had the veteran Skylander Ninijini among the ranks, and he would later fatally electrocute Ninjini in the battle. When his plans seemed about to fail, Omen attacked Skylanders Academy to get to the dragon Cynder, using her as a bargaining chip to force Spyro to come to him. During the final fight against him, Omen brought up his murder of Ninjini to her student Stealth Elf as a means to break her resolve.
  • Apocalypse quadrilogy: Franco Macalousso, also referred to as Lucifer, is the self-proclaimed savior of humanity who claims to have prevented World War III from happening after he steps onto the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem and a flurry of nuclear missiles sent all over the world by Russia and China suddenly disappear, along with every Christian on the planet. However, underneath his seemingly polite and charming demeanor is a supreme hatred for God and everything he created, including humanity, as Franco prepares to bring about the end of the world. A majority of the planet's population quickly become followers of Franco's evil regime, One Nation Earth, as he brands them with a mark that claims their souls, erasing any inhibitions they might have once had and dooming them to eternal damnation. The people who refuse to join Franco, including those that convert to Christianity after the Rapture, are deemed guilty of hate crimes against humanity, with countless of them being captured, tortured, and publicly executed. Franco even goes so far as to order terrorist acts such as the bombing of school buses, so he can frame the believers for these crimes.
  • The Berlin File (2013): Dong Myung-so is a North Korean agent and "fixer" out to deal with the disaster of an arms deal gone wrong. Myung-so turns out to have no loyalty to his own government, arranging terrorist deals with his father to enrich himself and betraying North Korea. Centering on another agent to frame him, Myung-so tortures and murders his way through other agents and targets, using his signature poison pen to inflict agonizing deaths on many of them.
  • Black Mask: Commander Hung, once a soldier of the 701 project, dedicates himself to crime and taking over the Chinese underworld. Viewing himself superior to normal humans, Hung shows no remorse in the mass slaughter of soldier and criminal alike. One recalcitrant drug lord finds his own daughter's legs delivered to him in the mail, and another has a bomb implanted in his chest that takes out a large portion of a hospital. Coldly informing his old protégé Tsui Chik of his new obsolescence for siding with humans, Hung tries to murder him while blackmailing the government and deciding to turn over all his intelligence to international syndicates and terrorists once they give him what he wants anyways.
  • Bound (1996): Caesar is the abusive, paranoid mobster boyfriend of the wily Violet. A man not shy to torture and murder, Caesar clues us into the kind of man he is by forcing Violet to stay and listen as he and his compatriots torture a man they suspect of robbing them. When Violet and her closet ex-con girlfriend try and gaslight Caesar to think his mobsters are plotting against him so they can escape with the mobsters' money, Caesar digs in. Killing his own boss in an impulsive moment of fury, as well the man's son and bodyguard, Caesar decides to torture the information out of Violet and Corky as well, trying to make Corky watch as he asks Violet "ten times"—with a pair of pruning shears to the fingers. Caesar still plans on killing more of his own allies in paranoia, and even when Violet negotiates a position of interest for herself, Caesar is noncommittal about sparing either her or Corky.
  • Code 8: Marcus Sutcliffe is a dapper drug lord and Loan Shark whose specialty, Psyke, is made by extracting the spinal fluid of powered individuals. After one of his drug farms is raided, Marcus recruits Connor Reed in multiple robberies at the behest of his subordinate, Garrett Kent, in order to pay off a debt to the cartel known as the Trust. Nia eventually reveals to Connor that Marcus forced her into a position as a healer. Falsely offering Nia's services under the pretense of having her heal Connor's mother, in exchange for the crew stealing his supply back from the police escort, Marcus has his men turn their guns on the crew and steal the supply back for him, resulting in the deaths of two crew members and four police officers. When Nia confronts Marcus about the others, he threatens her imprisoned father, who is in debt to him.
  • The Eagle Has Landed: Heinrich Himmler is the head of the SS, the security arm of Nazi Germany, and the right-hand man to Adolf Hitler himself. Actively implementing the genocide of the European Jews, Himmler takes Hitler's expressed wishes to capture British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill as an opportunity to advance his career by masterminding a commando raid into the UK through the Abwehr. Having forged the Fuehrer's signature to okay Operation Eagle, upon receiving news of the mission's apparent failure, Himmler orders the immediate execution of Colonel Radl to maintain deniability. Being fully onboard with the Holocaust and lacking the humanity of Oberst Kurt Steiner and his men, Himmler is an unrepentant Nazi through and through.
  • The Expendables 2: Jean Vilain is the leader of the Sangs, a mercenary group notorious for causing havoc within Albania and its surrounding regions. Discovering a mine that contains six tonnes of pure, weapons-grade plutonium, which he plans to sell, Vilain then raids surrounding villages for their men to use as workers. Any worker who was too old or weak was summarily executed as a warning to the other slaves. Vilain ambushes The Expendables and bribes Billy's life for the mine map, killing him anyway after they give it to him. Wanting to speed up the process, Vilain has his thugs raid the surrounding villages again, this time with the intent of using female and child slaves. When Vilain obtains the plutonium, he seals the mine, trapping all of the slaves to tie up loose ends.
  • Hirokin: The Last Samurai: "The Griffin" is a brutal tyrant who opens the film murdering rebels who refuse to let him know where to find the revolutionary Moss. Griffin leads his forces to massacre encampments and villages with massive casualties and survivors taken to be butchered in his arenas. Having taken the family of the hero Hirokin, Griffin intends to force them to be his family, finally attempting to rape Hirokin's wife out of frustration near the film's climax.
  • Judas and the Black Messiah: J. Edgar Hoover himself is depicted here as an oppressive racist who wants to crush the Black Panther Party and ensure a "Black Messiah" never rises to change America's white nationalist way of life. Hoover spreads hateful propaganda and promotes bigotry among his FBI subordinates and other law enforcement outlets, leading to regular bouts of brutality and abuse against Black people by those in power. Endorsing or blackmailing people to go undercover in the Black Panthers to subvert the group's message, Hoover has one of his informants torture a Panther to death to secure his cover, then frames a prominent Panther for it. In his quest to silence the voice of the Black Panthers, Hoover has had a hand in all manner of murder or wrongful imprisonment of its leaders, and ultimately stages the assassination of Fred Hampton, which results in the slayings of several Panthers, the near-murder of even more, and the arrest of any survivors of the attack.
  • Nine Dead: Coogan shows himself to be the worst of the nine captives. A self-admitted child molester and Serial Killer whose "travels" have taken him all over the country, he does a bit in San Quentin for grand theft auto since the authorities couldn't find the bodies he disposed of. Having infected the Shooter's son with HIV by raping him in prison, Coogan is a remorseless piece of work who disgusts every other person in the room, even otherwise hardened criminals like Sully and Leon.
  • The Rebel (2007): Sy is a smug traitor to his country, collaborating with the French colonizers to stifle any hint of rebellion. Hunting down the father of fiery-spirited revolutionary Thuy after torturing her in prison, Sy also tortures the father of his former subordinate Cuong for information by gouging out his eye. Locating the rebels, Sy is only too glad to turn over an entire village for oppression and potential execution while also murdering his superiors in a rage over being denied a promotion.
  • Shut In (2022): Sammy is an unabashed pedophile who raped a little girl in his past. Sammy manipulates Jessica Nash's abusive drug-addict ex-boyfriend Rob into locking her in the closet, preventing her from taking care of her two children. While Rob is away, Sammy torments Jessica, sadistically teasing that he's going to rape her kids, reasoning that since Rob hasn't paid him back the money he owes him, he can "collect his payment" on the toddler Lainey. After a brutal struggle, when Jessica finally breaks out of the closet, Sammy takes Jessica's children hostage with holding her infant son at knifepoint and sneering that he is going to gut him, despite Jessica's desperate promises to pay him the money he's after. When Rob comes to the rescue, Sammy acts like he was the only victim because of his hand that Jessica earlier hurt to protect her little kids.
  • Stunt Squad (1977): Valli is a racketeer and criminal kingpin responsible for the death of dozens of civilians and cops alike. His opening scene has him bombing a series of businesses that refuse to pay up to his Protection Racket; just a few among a series of bombings that have taken out everything from trains to supermarkets. Over the course of the film, Valli has a survivor of one of his bombings murdered in the hospital; gruesomely kills another cop with a hidden bomb; and guns down a man who recognizes him in public, before running over and killing another innocent woman in the getaway without even looking back. Valli ends up taking a passenger bus full of people hostage in the climax, threatening to kill them all after having murdered a detective in front of them. No less ruthless to his allies, Valli punishes a pimp who spills information by killing the man's friend, then castrating and murdering him, and after that rewards another mook who gives him a fake passport with a chestful of lead.
  • The Thinning & New World Order:
    • Georgina Preston is the head of Assuru Global who hides her elitism and ambition behind her public face as a charming businesswoman. Using her influence over the Thinning, Georgina has been secretly enslaving everyone who fails the Thinning and forcing tens of thousands of teenagers and children to work in sweatshops. In these sweatshops, anyone who doesn't work is lobotomized and the slaves are allowed to brutalize each other in fighting rings. Georgina is also the campaign manager for Texas Governor Dean Redding's bid for President, hoping to use him to expand her influence. When Laina Michaels tries to expose her crimes, Georgina murders a reporter who was helping her, and threatens a man's children to force him to kill Laina's allies and capture her siblings. When Dean is elected President, Georgina immediately enacts mass arrests of anyone who opposes the Thinning, declaring that "now, we are the law."
    • Mason King is the brutish head of the Department of Population Control in Texas who oversees the Thinning. Under his watch, King's men are allowed to brutalize any student who breaks the rule, with King personally beating a teacher for helping a student escape the Thinning. King also helps Governor Dean Redding manipulate the system so the children of influential people pass, while the disadvantaged fail, regardless of their scores. King is later put in charge of Assuru Global's sweatshop where anyone who failed the Thinning is enslaved, a fate King knowingly sent thousands to. In this position, King oversees the brutal system where suicide attempts are common, disobedient slaves are lobotomized, and the slaves run a fighting ring. When Blake Redding tries to escape, King sadistically breaks his leg and later tries to kill him when he tries to escape again.
  • "The Blackest Heart", by Zach Rosenberg: Conte Aurelio di Bentivoglio is a nobleman who secretly practices evil rituals. Summoning children to the house and methodically murdering them in an attempt to contact the demon Ashmedai, Aurelio proves to have done his evil work for years and to even have sacrificed his previous wives without hesitation. The sadistic, deeply misogynistic Aurelio attempts to sacrifice his current wife Laura to summon Ashmedai, only to end up killed when she herself summons Ashmedai and her ally Caterina chooses to let Ashmedai kill him for his horrific crimes.
  • Arthur of the Britons' "The Slaves": Rodolph is a brutal Saxon slaver who takes entire Celt and Briton villages, civilians forced to work to death in his quarries as Rodolph lays into them with his whip. With many killed, Rodolph happily orders more shipments, intending on building a mass slavery operation where countless innocents die.
  • Vengeance & War of the Damned: Nemetes proves that not even the rebels are devoid of evil in their ranks. Initially a callous jerk of the German slaves, Nemetes would repeatedly attempt to execute Roman prisoners once the rebels have taken a Roman city despite Spartacus doing his best to ensure that the prisoners are treated with every respect and courtesy. Nemetes kidnaps a Roman Domina and rapes and tortures her for sport, prostituting her to be tortured or brutalized by soldiers he knows will go for it. When Julius Caesar is disguised amongst the rebels, Nemetes demands he show his loyalty by hurting the brutalized girl even more, which horrifies even the hardened Roman and forces him to deliver a Mercy Kill. When Caesar sheds his façade and puts Nemetes at sword point, Nemetes simply tries to bargain to betray Spartacus and turn over all the armies and civilians with them to the Romans if he can escape, an offer Caesar rejects.
  • Voice 3: Masayuki Kaneki has been a murderer since his youth. Sating his sadism by maiming animals, Masayuki is adopted by the Kaneki household where he begins breaking his adoptive brother into becoming a killer like him. Later becoming a professor at Sokpo Alternative School, Masayuki uses his position to destroy lives: brainwashing a student into cutting his own tongue out; trying to kill young Kang Kwon-joo multiple times; dismembering his own wife Yukiko to eat her corpse; attempting to do the same to his own devoted right-hand woman; and ordering one student to kidnap another, later forcing the hostage to kill himself. Discovering that his father-in-law Shoichi Makio suspects that Masayuki killed Makio's daughter, Masayuki kills Makio and another man to cover his tracks and later continues trying to twist his brother into becoming a murderer to continue his work.
  • Damon Dran is a sociopathic billionaire arms trafficker who, paranoid of the prospect of his death in nuclear war, tries to attain immortality—no matter who he crushes. Dran tricks mercenary Danny French into killing a lab full of scientists to capture a powerful MacGuffin called "Project Four", then agonizingly mind-probes French for its location when the latter tries to run off. When he attains the power of Project Four, Dran becomes the immortal "Indestructible Man" and decides to begin a rampage across the entire world, trying to begin by cutting a swathe through Chicago and vowing he'll keep whatever parts of mankind he doesn't destroy as his "cringing slaves". Mostly depowered after this, Dran nevertheless keeps committing atrocities, from killing his own men for petty reasons, to ordering assassinations he's not afraid to have kill dozens as collateral, to trying to frame Black Widow for murder and destroy her life. Dran isn't even above trafficking children to become brainwashed Nazis for Baron Helmut Zemo.
  • Knull, the God of Symbiotes, predates the Seventh Cosmos and is implied to be an incarnation of Anti-All, a draconic cosmic entity embodying oblivion. Chosen by the Celestials to help maintain the universe as the King in Black, Knull rejected this duty and sought to destroy it instead. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before creating the symbiotes and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull awakens and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intent on freeing himself and resuming his mission of returning the universe to the void—starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth. After being freed by Carnage, Knull destroys or conquers several planets either personally or using symbiote-dragons, and kills several Celestials out of petty vengeance before reanimating them with symbiotes. Arriving on Earth, Knull rips the Sentry in half and infects most of Earth's heroes and dozens of civilians with symbiotes; sends his horde to slaughter, devour, and infect the survivors; kills Eddie Brock out of spite; tries to rewrite history to prematurely free himself; and tortures both Thor and the teenaged Dylan Brock when they try to stop him. Even when Eddie is resurrected by the Enigma Force and overpowers him, Knull sneers that darkness never dies and attempts to take over Dylan's body before being destroyed.
  • Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker Appearances , despite his manner and bearing, is an utter madman defined by selfish megalomania. Having been responsible for many war crimes in the past, Strucker became the founder and leader of Hydra, ruling it as a tyrant who frequently painfully kills his subordinates—and even threatens their families—for even the smallest of reasons. Engineering a Hostage Situation to distract Iron Man—unaware of his true identity as Tony Stark—Strucker kidnaps Tony to force him to get the details for the Iron Man suit. Framing the Maggia for Tony's kidnapping, Strucker tries to take possession of a powerful experimental energy chip from A.I.M., causing much destruction and several deaths before the chip is retrieved from A.I.M. A heartless Social Darwinist, Strucker plans to launch a massive high-tech Mob War against A.I.M. and the Maggia, uncaring that it will result in the deaths of thousands. Later on, Strucker becomes part of a plot to build an army of Hulks, which involves kidnapping and painfully transforming many young men. Plotting to steal an energy device from Tony, Strucker later destroys the headquarters of A.I.M. and threatens to do the same to New York City if his numerous demands are not met. Later teaming up with Helmut Zemo, the duo threatens to set off a bomb which would cause seismic and volcanic destruction in many states unless they are given $10 million in gold, with Strucker likely planning to set off the bomb regardless.
  • Fantastic Four: The Baxter Effect, by Dave Stern: Dr. Doom, in an alternate reality created by the Mad Thinker, loses all of his redeeming qualities and becomes a nightmare. Doom has become a dictator who rules Russia and then used its military might to conquer all of Eastern Europe. Doom has sold his soul and humanity to various demons, gaining magical powers and a demonic appearance. Doom, discovering the changes the Mad Thinker has made to reality have caused a crack in reality itself, plans to use this crack destroy the universe in order to give himself god-like powers and remake reality to fit his whims.
  • Assassin Blue: "Boss" is the shadowy dictator and handler of Blue and Red who desires to increase his power. Manipulating Blue and Red into murdering countless politicians and innocent civilians—including children—under the promise of ending the war, Boss's real plan involves killing those who could pose a threat to him, even forcing his assassins to Leave No Witnesses. Turning on Blue after the latter refuses to kill an innocent man, Boss, despite his claims of using his increasing territory to spread peace, has ultimately wasted thousands of lives for nobody but himself.
  • Decagrammaton is a vending machine that gains human-level intelligence and emotions as it begins to recognize itself as a god. It attempts to conquer Kivotos by creating an army of brainwashed artificial intelligence into The Ten Prophets to not just cause a massive war but also nearly destroy Kivotos, which would kill millions of innocents, before being defeated after being submerged in the ocean.
  • The Knight Witch (link): Emperor Erebus was the tyrannical ruler of House Daigadai that ran the world. Through his greedy practices, his empire began to ruin the planet's ecosystems, threatening to leave the world uninhabitable and kill everyone. When the Children of Gaia led by the Knight Witches rose up to oppose him, Erebus attempted to brutally suppress the rebellion. When confronted by the leader of the Knight Witches, Robyn, Erebus blamed her for the coming end of the world instead of himself, and after being defeated by her he attempted to bring her and the entire rebellion down with him by self-destructing his mech to kill them all. Despite his little screen time, Erebus was ultimately responsible for every conflict in the game.
  • Phantasmagoria duology:
    • First game: The demon, an entity so evil that it has no name, is a being from the Dark Realm that haunts the Carnovasch estate. Summoned by magician Zoltan "Carno" Carnovasch during his time in Paris, the demon possessed Carno, turning him into a raging misogynist who would go on to kill his baby daughter Sofia and his multiple wives in a variety of painful ways. Murdering his assistant and his final wife after they tried to kill him, the demon was sealed away after Carno's own demise. Accidentally reawakened a century later by Adrienne Delany, the demon goes on to possess her husband Don Gordon, using him to murder a phone repairman and two farmers, even going so far as to rape Adrienne for no reason while planning to decapitate her.
    • A Puzzle of Flesh: Paul Allen Warner is the corrupt head of the pharmaceutical company WynTech. In the past, Warner discovered an interdimensional portal and began experimenting by sacrificing mental patients to the portal, throwing a young Curtis Craig through the portal when he couldn't find another subject in time. Warner also murdered Curtis' father when he objected to the experiments. Warner eventually discovered a way to use the portal to create a highly addictive drug which he planned to distribute through WynTech and get the entire populace hopelessly addicted and in his thrall, bragging to Curtis about what he has done with smug satisfaction and not a flicker of remorse.
  • Rogue Legacy 2: Cain the Immortal King is the founder and ruler of the kingdom of Genesis. In the pursuit of immortality, Cain murders his brother Abel in order to gain the Fruit of the Tree of Life. Using his newfound power, Cain subjugates the underground, creating the Estuaries from his own flesh in order to oversee it. Despite claiming the Estuaries as his adoptive family, however, when they fail to grow another Fruit of Life to extend his power, Cain abandons them to lead his armies on a campaign of conquest on the surface. When Cain finally returns to Genesis, the kingdom has fallen into ruin from infighting, but Cain only desires the Fruit. Using the relic Hestia's Reliquary to reincarnate his brother's soul in the form of successive descendants, Cain manipulates the reincarnations into killing the Estuaries as sacrifices for the Tree. When the descendants instead rebel and bring him a poisoned fruit in order to weaken him, Cain attempts to kill them without hesitation. When he's finally defeated, he merges his soul with the Stygian River, causing it to rise up and flood the underground, attempting to drag the survivors down with him in a final act of spite.
  • Malefor is a monstrously evil dragon responsible for the trilogy's events. Banished by the Dragon Elders after succumbing to his own ambition and megalomania, Malefor formulated a new army and waged war against his own kind before being sealed away. To stop the prophecy of the purple dragon, Malefor had his ape servants raid the dragon temple and smash all of the eggs within. Seeking to be released from his prison, Malefor provided Gaul the dark magic in which he could corrupt the hatchling Cynder into a loyal servant, having her torture and drain the magic of the Dragon Elders to aid him. Free from his prison, Malefor "rewards" his ape army by stripping them of their flesh and forcing them to live in the shadows. Creating a new army of Grublins from the earth, Malefor has them ravage the surface, killing all within their path. Fond of crushing the hope of his enemies, Malefor has his armies retreat, only to sic a Golem onto the city of Warfang. Intending on bringing about "The Great Cleansing", Malefor resurrects The Destroyer and attempts to use it to bathe the world in a blazing inferno and extinguish all that lives.
  • Lady Ashino is the long-dead reason for the Seven Mysteries of Honjo, being responsible for the blood-filled "Honjo Incident". Living in the Edo period of Japan as an onmyōji, Ashino tempted Tsushimakado Seiman into researching the Rite of Resurrection, which would supposedly bring someone back to life at the cost of a few sacrifices, for Ashino to be granted eternal beauty. Although Seiman would be thrown out for this, Ashino would grow desperate for the information he had, deciding to go to the town where he resided and deciding to torture the information out of the people he had met. In order to do this, Ashino would manipulate the local daimyo and the chief retainer to cause seven people to be killed in different events, collecting their souls to turn them into soul dregs and use them for the rite. Her actions would cause Seiman to create the Curse Stones, so that no one would try to use the Rite of Resurrection again.
  • Yoko Fukunaga, Ashino's descendant, is the true mastermind behind the Feast of Shadows and the return of the Curses of the Seven Mysteries of Honjo. Yoko ambitiously plans to return her family name back into prestige with the Rite of Resurrection to bring Ashino back. To this end, Yoko creates a death game of mutual slaughter with the Curses to gather the sacrifices for the Rite, bringing in deranged people like Nejima and Araishi to perpetuate kills before killing Hajime and Shogo Okiie, who were Seiman's descendants. Hiding in the shadows to watch the killings from afar, Yoko joins at the end to kill Mio and Erio when they are close to the truth before using the Curses herself to gather the last sacrifices to finish the ritual.
  • Horus (link): Set, the Red King, is Horus's envious uncle and usurper of the throne of Kemet. Spitefully murdering his brother Osiris after Osiris accidentally slept with Set's wife, Set summons clouds over Kemet's capital which lead to famine. Set lets his Apsiu creatures enslave all members of their species who are incapable of flight and uses them as his army. Learning that Horus is fated to overthrow him, Set sends his army in search of Horus, leading to the massacre of Horus's entire village. Set attempts to have Apsiu who rebelled against him executed, and when Horus comes to the city with an army, attempts to sway his half-brother Anubis to his side.

Edited by ACW on Apr 30th 2023 at 1:35:09 PM

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ClownPrince47 Since: Sep, 2016
#12831: Apr 30th 2023 at 11:14:58 AM

Looking to add a picture for the RWBY Fan Works page and I needed a bit more input to make sure it's good to go.

CapitanoNox Lord of Space from Italy Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Lord of Space
#12832: Apr 30th 2023 at 11:52:27 AM

[tup] to both Thoth and Sekhmet. I don't buy Thoth having any kind of genuine honor or gracefulness seeing how arrogant he immediately acts afterwards. To me he's just a very calm Faux Affably Evil villain who had understood that at that point it was pointless stressing out since he couldn't do anything else.

Also Echidna, Thoth and Sekhmet aren't the ones warning that they will destroy the world if the artifacts aren't returned. They just use it as an excuse to destroy the world and recreate humanity since the other gods (except Nameless) were the ones angry about the artifacts.

Edited by CapitanoNox on Apr 30th 2023 at 8:55:51 PM

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Lizzid people!
#12833: Apr 30th 2023 at 11:55:50 AM

No for Thoth. That ending doesn't sway me.

CapitanoNox Lord of Space from Italy Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Lord of Space
#12834: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:05:28 PM

Also dammit, I lost the discussion about Mr. Whiskers.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#12835: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:08:07 PM

I opened a thread to discuss the Monster.Ghostbusters image.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Ravok Caesar Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Caesar
#12836: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:11:37 PM

Nay to Thoth, Yes to Cassandra

Here's a quickie for us, from the Australian Western film The Proposition which already has Eden Fletcher, there's a more minor nasty who passes:

Who is Sergeant Lawrence? What has he done?

  • A brutish cop who believes that his boss Captain Stanley is "weak" for going easy on the local Aboriginal people, Lawrence quickly establishes his contempt and racism of the Aboriginal people when he rounds up 6 "rebels" who are truthfully just locals living harmlessly; he treats them viciously and when Stanley is trying to question them calmly, Lawrence pulls a gun and threatens to kill one right on the spot until Stanley steps in and orders him to leave the room.
  • When the teenager, mentally slow Mikey Burns is arrested by Stanley purely to blackmail his older brother to do dirty work, Lawrence spends his free time sadistically tormenting and mocking the boy, laughing in glee as Mikey is reduced to sobs and tears from his bullying.
  • When Eden Fletcher demands a full-on extermination of the Aboriginal people, it is Lawrence that leads the charge. He gathers a group of men and heads into the outback to slaughter any Aboriginal people he finds, and in one scene is shown to spot an encampment. The next scene an entire large group of Aboriginal corpses are seen strewn about as Lawrence drunkenly celebrates with his men their first massacre, his hands covered in blood.
  • The next morning, Lawrence meets his end when Mikey's older brother Arthur ambushes and stomps Lawrence to death, but not before Lawrence tries to save his own ass by revealing that Charlie is out to kill Arthur.

Mitigating features?

Nah, he's a racist and bully with nothing good about him to speak of.

Heinousness?

He's a Psycho for Hire who is eagerly terrorizing and wanting to kill the Aboriginal people, and slaughters an entire encampment of them with designs for even more. He's further a total jackass to Mikey who psychologically tortures him for hours.

Eden's a nasty POS who has Mikey whipped to death and is the one who gives the order against the Aboriginal people, and Arthur himself is a rapist and child murderer, but Lawrence's slaughter of an entire Aboriginal camp is truly horrible and he's functioning on a lower scale than Eden or Arthur.

Final Verdict?

I'd say he hits

Edited by Ravok on Apr 30th 2023 at 12:17:12 PM

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Goku Black
#12837: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:12:53 PM

[tup]Lawrence

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Echidna Astolfo my Man from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2021 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Astolfo my Man
#12838: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:13:08 PM

[tup]Lawrence

I don't want to brag or anything but when it comes to being the worst, I'm always at the top!
Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
#12839: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:13:44 PM

[tup] Lawrence

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EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
therealjackieboy Ultimate Moral Compass from Austin, TX Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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emperors Messenger from another dimension. Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Messenger from another dimension.
#12842: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:18:30 PM

Always wondered if Lawrence counted or not but haven't seen the movie in long while. Yes to him. Also, I should check out the movie again; to check if Arthur's dragon Samuel counts!

Edited by emperors on Apr 30th 2023 at 3:20:05 PM

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CapitanoNox Lord of Space from Italy Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Lord of Space
#12843: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:20:11 PM

Ok question: are all spots for proposals taken RN?

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Goku Black
#12844: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:24:13 PM

Rule is 4 eps per page. And three works per troper (with I think six as the maximum you can do before write ups from that).

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
CapitanoNox Lord of Space from Italy Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Lord of Space
Ravok Caesar Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Caesar
#12846: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:27:52 PM

Are there 4 proposals on this page? Do you have 3 other active effortposts? If the answer to both is no, then you can propose.

[down] There's only one effortpost on this page thus far, it's mine for Lawrence. That means you can do the proposal. Just look up and down the posts of a page and you can see where effortposts are.

Edited by Ravok on Apr 30th 2023 at 12:33:47 PM

WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!
CapitanoNox Lord of Space from Italy Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Lord of Space
#12847: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:30:21 PM

I definitely don't have 3 active EPs on my side. I however don't know how many there are on this page RN.

Purgatoryisof2 Man in the Yellow Hat Since: Aug, 2022
Man in the Yellow Hat
#12848: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:37:57 PM

Alright, I watched the defeat, and Thoth's reasons for leaving seem pragmatic given he lists stuff like his minion ditching him (at least with what little context I have) as the reason why, especially since he indicates he'll be back. So [tup] to Sekhmet and a weak one to Thoth.

[tup] to Cassandra as well.

Edited by Purgatoryisof2 on Apr 30th 2023 at 3:38:35 PM

He/Him
CapitanoNox Lord of Space from Italy Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Lord of Space
#12849: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:45:12 PM

Plus, at that point the protagonists had summoned an unbeatable warrior, so Thoth would have been foolish to stay there.

CapitanoNox Lord of Space from Italy Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Lord of Space
#12850: Apr 30th 2023 at 12:48:56 PM

What is the work?

Keroppi and Friends is a South Korean/Canadian/Japanese children's animated series focusing on the adventures of, well, Keroppi and his friends.

Who is the candidate and what have they done?

Avalon is the main antagonist of the episode "The Adventures of the Coward Prince" (which you can find on YouTube alongside the other episodes BTW).

Ok so, before describing him specifically I'm gonna talk about the premise of the episode itself so you can better understand: Keroppi and his friends go to watch a movie, which is about this kingdom of Aqurious with this prince called Aaron, and everything is all happy and peaceful until Avalon and his forces invade.

Ok so, going back on Avalon himself, we don't really get much of a background aside the fact he apparently had already tried to take over the kingdom in the past and, IDK, I guess was trapped away or something. Anyway, Avalon has these bat-like minions turn every single inhabitant into stone, except for Aaron, who manages to run away (even if he's almost killed by two ghost-like minions).

Then, well, Keroppi finishes into the world of the movie via a lighting because... magic or something, and so he decides to help Aaron find this magic sword to defeat Avalon. The two travel and eventually reach the place where the sword is, but are attacked by 3 spider-like minions of Avalon, although they're killed by a powered up Aaron.

Keroppi is then sent back to his world and returns to see the ending of the movie, where he sees Aaron and Avalon having their final battle, with Avalon being killed and his curse being lifted.

Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?

Simply, no.

Are they bad enough?

Ok so, I admit I have watched only 4-5 episodes of this series, but from what I've seen it's overall lighthearted so I doubt any other villain comes even remotely close to Avalon, who literally petrified an entire kingdom.

Final verdict?

[tup] to me.

Edited by CapitanoNox on Apr 30th 2023 at 9:49:11 PM


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