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  • Acceptable Targets: In "My Brother's Keeper," Lucifer compels a crooked jewellery store owner to tell him her greatest desire, and she reveals that it's to punch every single Millennial in the face. Lucifer admits that he sympathises with that wish.
  • Adorkable:
    • Lucifer is this when he can't use his charms and completely misunderstands human behaviour. Especially telling in "Candy Morningstar", where he's trying to convince Chloe to let him work with her again.
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    • Maze shows childlike delight after her first job as a bounty hunter:
      Maze: Hunting humans is a job! Who knew?!
    • Amenadiel has his moments, especially once he's started defrosting.
      "The internet! It's truly amazing what you can find online. Have you seen that video with the cat that jumps inside the box?"
    • After learning the truth about Lucifer, Linda's enthusiastic questions regarding Heaven and Hell border on this.
    • Ella easily comes off as this, given her chipper nature and slight social awkwardness.
    • As you would expect from being the first woman ever created, Eve is remarkably goofy, socially clueless and naive, reacting to almost every new thing she discovers with childlike glee. She acts more like an easily excitable 12-year-old girl than an immortal being, to the extent that even Ella seems positively suave by comparison.
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    • Azrael is pretty much a second Ella, in terms of adorkableness.
  • Alternative Character Interpretation: Lucifer sees his story as this compared to how he's been portrayed throughout history. Dr. Linda posits a third view in "Favorite Son," that God sent Lucifer to benote  "the hero Humanity deserves but not the one it needs right now." According to Dr. Linda's theory possibly helped out by Amenadiel, God sent his favorite son to bear the hatred and scorn of the world because He knew Lucifer could take it. Sound like another favored son?
    • Infernal Guinea Pig has Cain mention offhanded that his brother was a bit of an asshole and the fact that his soul is in Hell, rather than Heaven, could throw the entire conflict into question.
    • Season 4’s big Wham Line reveals only an angel or celestial can rule Hell, which dramatically shifts perception how and why Lucifer is King of Hell.
  • And You Thought It Would Fail: Fans of the comic were outraged at the idea of turning it into a procedural drama and non-comic fans just thought the concept sounded stupid. Instead, the show overcame a rough start to build a devoted cult audience and then critics coming around to it as well to let it continue.
  • Angst? What Angst?: When Maze arrives at the start of season four to see Lucifer sulking, she disbelievingly asks if he's still mad at her for plotting to frame and/or murder him since that was a whole month ago. Lucifer scoffs at the very idea and pours her a drink.
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  • Author's Saving Throw: After all the issues with Chloe mentioned under Base-Breaking Character and Unintentionally Unsympathetic, in Season 5 she is at long last on top of things from the start, immediately detecting that Michael's performance as Lucifer isn't quite right and just playing along until she finally exposes him after just one episode.
  • Awesome Ego: Lucifer certainly lives up to his reputation as the epitome of Pride, but he's so genuinely hyper-competent — not to mention so charming and fun to watch — that you end up rooting for him anyway.
  • Awesome Music: The soundtrack has been lauded as one of the series' strengths.
  • Badass Decay: Amenadiel in Season 1 was a serious Hero Antagonist. Comes Season 2, he loses his powers, gets drunk at a party and is acting as Charlotte's pawn. Subverted in season 3 where despite losing his powers he still managed to be Badass Normal to kick Pierce's ass when he challenges him for marking him
  • Base-Breaking Character:
    • Chloe. Some find her Only Sane Man role makes her an excellent foil to Lucifer and helps ground the celestial plotlines with more human ones. Others find her boring, underdeveloped, badly acted, and annoying, the latter in particular with how she insists on being an Agent Scully about Lucifer and his powers. Her plot-lines also tend to be ill-thought-out or poorly received.
    • Maze for a small bunch is this as well, although it has less to do with her Character Development, back story (which have been well received, especially around Season 5) and her interaction with the other characters (most notably with Linda and Ella), but rather the fact the writing constantly throws in Heel–Face Revolving Door scenarios with her multiple times and then is instantly forgiven.
  • Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: "Who's Da New King of Hell?" opens with Lucifer, everyone at Lux and the rest of the police precinct dancing to "I'm All Right" by Kenny Loggins in one big choreographed scene (even with Dan jumping into his arms) as an Imagine Spot for Lucifer, having gotten over his emotional breakdown from the previous episode. The moment it stops, everyone acts like it didn't happen and it isn't brought up ever.
  • Broken Base:
    • Fans of the comic have issues with the series, as it makes Lucifer much more human, likable, and uninterested in God's plans for him, which is the opposite of the character in the source material. Those who are just looking for a science-fiction/fantasy police procedural tend to react better to the series.
    • The Deckerstar ship. Is it a boring, "leads predictably fall in love" sort of thing (complete with lack of chemistry), or a refreshing aversion of Will They or Won't They? It doesn't help that Lucifer's Love Interest in the comics is actually Mazikeen. The base was further broken on the issue when Lucifer bailed after the events of "A Good Day to Die", which threw the ship right back into Will They or Won't They? territory. The Romantic Plot Tumor they were faced with in Season 3 definitely didn't help, nor did Chloe becoming Unintentionally Unsympathetic in Season 4. Mercifully, the arc involving their relationship began to be (somewhat) fixed with Chloe establishing her relationship with Lucifer a bit more, though whether it's a successful saving throw or too little, too late is up for debate.
  • Captain Obvious Reveal: Hands up, anyone who actually believed that after months of buildup, the Sinnerman would actually be just some random guy we'd never seen before.
  • Cry for the Devil: Literally, in this case. While he is confident, snarky, and well-off economically, it is implied that his carefree, hedonistic lifestyle is a cover for his history of crippling, existential loneliness over the thousands of years of his existence. This can even be blamed on the scorn he receives from his angel kin, silence and abandonment from his omnipotent father, and humanity's tendency to blame and demonize him for their own shortcomings.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • In Season 3, the real Charlotte Richards has surprisingly become a compelling and likable character, with many fans enjoying her arc of genuinely trying to become a better person and dealing with the aftereffects of being in Hell (even if she doesn't fully believe that's where she was). Her relationship with Dan is also regarded as a highlight since Deckerstar is currently in a rough patch. The fact that she's so popular makes her death a massive Tear Jerker.
    • Father Frank only appears in one episode of Season One, but is well-liked by the fandom for being cooler than he seems, having an honest (if not odd) friendship with Lucifer, having some really interesting views on Christianity and the Bible, and figuring out Lucifer's true identity.
  • Escapist Character: Lucifer owns a club, is invincible, is a handsome Chick Magnet and is irreverent toward everyone.
  • Evil Is Sexy: Lucifer, of course, but he's not quite as evil as he used to be.
    • Maze as well.
  • Friendly Fandoms:
    • With Good Omens (2019) due to both shows involving demons and angels interacting with humanity, as well as the conflict between Heaven and Hell. The fact that both shows are based on stories by Neil Gaiman helps too.
    • With Constantine. Both are Vertigo properties with morally ambiguous leads (who are, ultimately, not all bad). It's not at all unusual to see Lucifer/Constantine as a Crossover Ship, complete with Belligerent Sexual Tension. It became more notable when Crisis on Infinite Earths (2019) had the two meet face to face to reveal they had some kind of history.
    • In a broader sense, the Furry Fandom likes this show if only because of the episode "Boo Normal" which portrayed furries fairly realistically and didn't go for the low-hanging fruit of calling the fandom a bunch of fetish-y freaks like many other shows do.
  • Genius Bonus: Tommy Stompanato from "It Never Ends Well for the Chicken" is named after real life gangster Johnny Stompanato, best known for his ignominious death stabbed by the daughter of his girlfriend Lana Turner.
  • Growing the Beard:
    • Season 2 got a much better reception across the board.
    • Season 4 is a case for re-growing the beard, and is considered to be perhaps the best season of the show (as well as a good demonstration that the move from Fox to Netflix was actually for the best). The shorter season (only ten episodes) results in much tighter writing, the looser censor restrictions allowed for darker storylines with violence, sex, and cursing (all rather appropriate given the main character), and the budget was bumped for more usage of special effects that let demons and angels show off their celestial features and powers more freely, especially Lucifer's devil face.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: In Season 1, Amenadiel hates the suggestion that he's anything like Lucifer. When he's beating his brother's face into the dirt, Lucifer goads him to "fall like I did", which shocks Amenadiel enough to stop. Come Season 2, Amenadiel is starting to fall, and he does not take it well.
    • In the first episode of Season 3, Lucifer attempts to show Chloe his devil face and the truth. Seeing how nervous he is, she assures him that whatever it is that he wants to show or tell her, it will not upset her and that she will be there for him. Season 4 begins with her reeling and terrified from finding out the truth, having fled to Europe for a month, and leads to her aiding the Vatican in trying to send Lucifer back to Hell... which kicks off a series of events that winds up with Lucifer back there even after Chloe stops.
    • When discussing baby names, Linda brings up 'Michael' which Amenadiel quickly dismisses. On first watch it seems to be just because one of his brothers is named Michael and two celestials having the same name would be confusing. Come Season Five, Michael appears, he's Lucifer's twin brother, and he's a real dick.
  • Heartwarming in Hindsight: It's revealed in "Boo Normal" that Lucifer's Odd Friendship with Ella is similar to his bond with Azrael, his bubbly, slightly nerdy sister, who is also a friend of Ella's and considers Lucifer her favorite brother.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • In the very first episode, Lucifer asks Chloe if his father sent her. Come the events of "Quid Pro Ho", and the answer is a resounding "yes".
    • Early on Lucifer references Bruce Almighty, saying his father doesn't look like Morgan Freeman. In Season 5, they may not have gotten Freeman himself to play the part, but they did get another deep-voiced black actor, Dennis Haysbert.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Lucifer. There's no denying that he is a massive git and loves every minute of it. However, it is slowly revealed, partly through his therapy, that there is a lot of pain and vulnerability behind that cocky, snarky façade — witness his reaction when a horrified Chloe tries to touch the scars where his wings used to be. Season 2 focuses on this, spending a large amount of time on Lucifer's guilt, heartbreak, and grief.
    • As of Season 2, Amenadiel can be added to the list. He's falling, and is not taking it well.
    • Charlotte Richards... the actual Charlotte, not the being possessing her. All Charlotte knows is that she woke up missing a giant chunk of time, her family is gone, and she distinctly remembers being in Hell.
  • Just Here for Godzilla: While the show suffers from a Broken Base both critically and in the fandom, particularly when it comes to its considerable deviations from the comics, most everyone agrees that Tom Ellis's Lucifer is the best part of the show and the main reason to watch it. He's smug, audacious, sexy, manipulative, charming, and intelligent, and he knows it and will let you know it, too. Would you expect anything less from the Prince of Darkness?
  • Launcher of a Thousand Ships: Lucifer has been shipped with every main character (including Amenadiel) and also with Constantine since his appearance on Crisis on Infinite Earths (2019).
  • Mexicans Love Speedy Gonzales: The YouTube upload of the scene from "Boo Normal" where Chloe has to go undercover at a furry con is littered with comments from members of the fandom good-naturedly joking about how accurate its portrayal of the community is, and how it's totally believable that someone would get in a fistfight at the con and end up as a suspect in a murder investigation because they believed someone had stolen their OC. It helps that the characters specifically mention that it's "usually not a sexual thing", and that that it was filmed at an actual furry con with a number of real participants there. And for once, unlike most other mainstream media, it portrayed furries in a positive light, otherwise, and didn't resort to the oft-repeated "furries are sexual deviants" angle like many of its contemporaries, favoring poking fun at other aspects of the fandom.
  • Misblamed: Like fellow FOX staple Brooklyn Nine-Nine, which was canceled (and then picked up by NBC) around the same time, fans of Lucifer have blamed Disney's planned acquisition of 21st Century Fox for the cancellation of the series. Never mind the fact that FOX didn't actually make the show (it was produced by Warner Bros.), the FOX network isn't part of the sale, and that the show continued to lose viewers as the series went on, making continuing the series financially undesirable (though this reasoning is a bit odd, since the show scored higher ratings than fellow FOX program and sister DC-based series Gotham, which scored a last-minute renewal for a fifth and final season). It has been stated on many sites that the real reason the show was cancelled was because FOX have bought the rights to show football next year, which will take up close to thirty hours of their week, and therefore won't have time for some of its other shows.
  • Moe: Trixie is quite adorable.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Lucifer's mother crosses it when she unleashes Azrael's Blade into the human populace, knowing that the Blade would compel all who hold it to violently murder anyone who even slightly crossed them. Then, to make absolutely sure she stays over the line, she tries to murder Chloe.
    • Pierce officially crosses it when he tries to kill Amenadiel but accidentally kills Charlotte instead.
  • Narm:
    • In something of a low-key example of Special Effect Failure, the scene where Chloe and Trixie examined the DVD of Chloe's old movie showed Lauren German's face very clearly photoshopped on a DVD cover.
    • In again another example of SEF, the scene where Lucifer talked to Richard in "Et tu, Doctor?" appeared to be done on a green screen.
    • Everytime Amenadiel calls the protagonist "Luci", it sounds very much like "Lucy". Kind of undermines his whole stern old-testament Knight Templar Schtick.
    • Uriel threatening to kill Chloe by playing a single note on an organ is hard to take seriously.
    • The Sinnerman is a frightening crime boss whom no one knows anything about... but it's still giggle-worthy when Lucifer says his name and his accent makes it sound like he's saying "The Cinnamon" instead.
    • Chloe's bit of Shooting Superman in the Season 4 finale, emptying her entire clip into a demon-possessed body no matter how many times it has no effect, and knowing full well this would happen even before she entered the fight. "Yeah, try it eight more times, maybe it'll work!"
    • Chloe's expression in "The Would-Be Prince of Darkness" when Lucifer offhandedly straightarms a very large man off of his feet and through a massive glass wall. It's an entirely understandable reaction to what she just saw happen (especially since she still firmly believes Lucifer's just a wacko human at this point), but Lauren German stretching her jaw the widest possible like the dentist just told her "Wider" while poking at her molars is still pretty hilarious.
  • One-Scene Wonder: L. Scott Caldwell as Maze's mother Lilith in Season 5, pouring a ton of performance and characterization into a couple minutes of screen time.
  • Portmanteau Couple Name: "Deckerstar" or "Chlucifer" for the Lucifer/Chloe ship. "Chlaze" (Chloe/Maze) has also popped up. There's also "Douchelotte" or "Danlotte" for Dan/Charlotte and "Doucheifer" for the Dan/Lucifer bromance.
  • Romantic Plot Tumor: While initially averted with Lucifer and Chloe's relationship, it increasingly overtakes the plot by Season 3. This especially apparent when in the last quarter, the Love Triangle with Marcus Pierce derails his quest for mortality.
  • Seasonal Rot: Season 3 saw a drop in quality, with Maze suddenly becoming Unintentionally Unsympathetic and seeing Chloe and Marcus being Strangled by the Red String.
  • She Really Can Act: For those who generally find Lauren German's performance to be wooden and underwhelming, "O, Ye of Little Faith, Father" saw her knock it out of the park during her final scene in the episode.
  • Shocking Moments:
    • The ending shot of "The Good, the Bad and the Crispy": Lucifer is stranded in the middle of the desert...and he has his wings back.
    • The last ten minutes of "A Devil of My Word" potentially tops that, and can be summed up in three words: Chloe. Finally. Knows. When Cain tries to have Lucifer and Chloe killed, Lucifer shields them both with his wings before flying Chloe to safety. While she was unconscious when that happened, the fact that Lucifer got her to the top of a building and disappeared immediately afterwards makes her realize that everything he told her was true - which is confirmed when she runs to help him and sees his Devil face.
    • Season 4 starts with the emotional fallout from end of Season 3 and the introduction of a prophecy that threatens danger from the Devil’s presence on Earth. The situation only gets markedly more fraught from there until it culminates in a full on demon rebellion that spills out onto the mortal plane, requiring Lucifer to reclaim the infernal throne to contain them.
    • The final scene of Season 5A: Amenadiel's insecurities over his son being mortal cause him to uncontrollably bring time to a complete stop, followed by a battle royale of him and Lucifer vs. Michael and Maze in the frozen police station, where it truly seems like any outcome is possible. But then we get none of them, as the fight is interrupted by none other than God Himself.
  • Special Effects Failure:
    • The CGI angel wings never look quite believable, but the absolute worst moment is the fight scene at the end of Season Three. Lucifer whaps multiple enemies with them, and it looks utterly silly each time.
    • Done deliberately in the Season 5 episode "It Never Ends Well For The Chicken." It's a Noir Episode with Lucifer telling Trixie the story of how he got his ring, and the effects are handled in the same way as an actual noir film would have done (like dried ketchup for blood or a driving scene where the characters are obviously in a stationary vehicle with a film of moving along a street being projected onto a screen behind them).
  • Strangled by the Red String:
    • It only takes two episodes of Chloe and Marcus dating in Season 3 before they're kissing and talking about how serious their relationship is, and four episodes before Chloe tells him she's in love with him. And while Chloe was interested in Marcus, Marcus had no romantic interest in Chloe until these episodes. By the end of the fifth episode where he proposes to her and she accepts, it's simply ludicrous how quickly their relationship is moving. Though the very next episode deconstructs the entire relationship: those against the relationship are completely baffled by Chloe's answer and have no idea why she said yes (Lucifer even starts to act like her in order to understand her decision).
    • Ella and Dan randomly get attracted to one another within the span of a few episodes. It's especially ridiculous because the latter is still grieving for Charlotte.
  • Tainted by the Preview: Trailers for the show got a very negative response from fans of the comic. The Lighter and Softer comedic tone and Police Procedural format are especially criticized.
    • FOX released a clip for the Season 3 episode "The Angel of San Bernardino" which showed Chloe and Pierce making out rather passionately in a closet at the Precinct. Fans were outraged, claiming that it was inappropriate and disgusting since Pierce is using Chloe for his own gain. It wasn't surprising when the ratings dropped.
  • They Changed It, So It Sucks: A general reaction of many Lucifer fans with the absence of Elaine and Michael being noted in particular.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
    • Abel provided a lot of story opportunities, new and unique dynamics with the cast, and himself had the potential to be an interesting and entertaining character. He's killed off after one episode. The source comics even provide a valid excuse to how he could be allowed to stick around, but nope, he's just gone.
    • Some viewers believe the show wasted the potential of introducing Michael; instead of the heroic character from the DC comic who's reluctantly opposed to his twin, or the spiritual warrior of Jewish and Christian faith, he's a twisted and scheming plotter who hates Lucifer and wants to ruin his life out of spite. Alternatively other viewers felt that though Michael worked fine as a villain in theory, he simply isn't in enough of Season 5A; He first shows up at the end of the season premiere and Chloe sees through his deception by the climax of the very next episode; we don't really see him interact with Mazikeen and Dan even as he's turning them against Lucifer; and even in "Spoiler Alert" where his master plan starts coming into play, he's barely in the episode.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
    • The show nixes the existential plot about the Sliding Scale of Free Will vs. Fate in favor of a bog-standard police procedural with supernatural elements, with the show being an In Name Only example of the original title.
    • When Linda finds out that Lucifer really is who he says he is, it really throws her for a loop, as one would expect. They could have devoted time to an in-depth examination of Linda's reaction to this new reality. Instead, she shakes it off in a few scenes over two episodes. However, episode 3x08 reveals that she's still coming to terms with the implications of the reveal, and is just that good at hiding it from everyone around her.
    • Season 3 sees a slight reversal with the dynamic of Lucifer and Amenadiel, with Lucifer having his wings back while Amenadiel has become a fallen angel. If the brothers (and the writers) are aware of the irony of their current circumstances, they haven't mentioned it.
    • At the end of Season 2, Lucifer promises to tell Chloe who he really is, but his kidnapping, getting his wings back and losing his devil face prevented him. But instead of, well, showing her his wings when they grow back, he randomly decides not to tell her without any good reason, pointlessly leaving her in the dark again. This leaves Chloe with very little character development and her character doing little to nothing other than making moon eyes at Pierce, abandoning the possible plot of her coming to terms with Lucifer's identity. What's even more frustrating is that Lucifer's and Chloe's relationship is experiencing a wedge driven between them, something that could've been easily accomplished by her finding out he's really the devil.
  • Too Cool to Live: Father Frank. The man had a piano duel with Lucifer, for crying out loud!
  • Trailers Always Spoil: The reveal in season 5, episode 2 that "Lucifer" is really his twin brother would have been a fantastic twist...if the official promos hadn't given it away months in advance.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic:
    • Maze's reaction to Amenadiel and Linda hooking up. While it's understandable that she'd have some lingering doubts and feelings, the fact remain that not only the two in question fully consenting adults, but Maze's tendency to react disproportionately (read: violently) to things she doesn't like only makes things worse. Furthermore, she essentially pressures Linda into saying what she wants to hear, and completely neglects to take her friend's feelings into consideration. To make matters worse, after Amenadiel and Linda break up, she continues to act childish and self-centered over the whole thing, refusing to admit fault. For that matter, Maze's frustration over Lucifer refusing to return to Hell with her comes off as a lot of Wangst and It's All About Me, with her bemoaning that no one cares about what she wants and how tough and annoying human relationships and emotions make things, when back in Hell everything was so simple. Considering how Maze has always had a toxic attitude towards everyone and actively resisted making friends and getting involved personally with the rest of the cast, it makes her come off as entitled and selfish, demanding that since she can't make her life on Earth work, Lucifer should give up his and take her home.
    • Chloe during the fourth season. After seeing Lucifer's true form, she's left reeling and desperately searching for answers. When answers appear to come from Father Kinley, she does as he asks in hopes that it will help. However, not only does this involve lying to her partner's face, but also essentially spying on him and trying to exorcise him and send him to Hell, despite the fact that Lucifer has been up-front about his identity (human credulity notwithstanding) from the very start. And while Lucifer definitely has a sinister side, he also qualifies as a Jerk with a Heart of Gold who has helped her on her cases since he first met her. Instead of well-meant, Chloe comes off as someone who refused to see the truth until it was quite literally staring her in the face, and then decided to listen to a perfect stranger over someone she had considered a good friend up to that point. Then, when she's confronted about her actions, she tries to excuse herself by saying it was only "for a moment". Not helping her case is the fact that Dr. Linda Martin found out earlier (as Maze points out), and her Heroic BSoD didn't start off a chain of plot-related Disaster Dominoes that ultimately found Lucifer back in Hell, a place he loathed running. Her statement in the Season Finale of being afraid to lose Lucifer because she loves him is another nail in the coffin, given that she decides to tell him about it while a demon invasion and an attempted babynapping is going on, despite the fact that she now knows she makes Lucifer vulnerable. Never mind that a lone, unarmed woman is running around with a baby in a dangerous situation, that's what really matters!
  • What an Idiot!: Lucifer tries to tell Chloe the truth, but discovers that he's lost his Devil face.
    • You'd Expect: Lucifer to keep his promise, and once he realizes that his wings keep growing back, he can show those to Chloe as proof.
    • Instead: He abandons his realization about the dangers of keeping her in the dark, breaks his word and proceeds to not tell her anything, leaving her frustrated.
    • The Result: Chloe gets increasingly frustrated with Lucifer's antics, even when he's genuinely trying to help. What's more, she's taken a romantic interest in Cain, the world's first murderer, and every single moment she's shared with him has been built on nothing but lies.
    • You'd Then Expect: Lucifer to tell Chloe the truth in order to explain the danger to her and keep her safe.
    • Instead(!): He continues to keep her in the dark for really no reason at all, potentially putting her life in even more danger because of her unwilling ignorance towards the situation. The show has tried to draw attention to this, though; it's shown that Lucifer is actually afraid that his celestial nature might hurt Chloe in some way (or worse, get her killed) and in the final episode Chloe calls Lucifer out on keeping secrets from her when she finds out that he knew Pierce was the Sinnerman and didn't tell her, even when she was dating the guy.


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