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Sorting Algorithm of Deadness

Using the scientifically Infallible power of the Sorting Algorithm of Deadness, who do you think is the next in line for being brought back from the great Bus in the sky?

To use the Algorithm, simply add the Column's "Death Value", and divide by the number of applicable rows.

Relative deadness factor Deader Than Dead Maybe Back Later Be Back Soon Death? What's That?
Death Value 4 3 2 1
Cause of death Irony, Bridge Drop, Overkill, Stuffed in the Fridge, Ret Gone Redemption, Sacrifice, Bus Crash, Mortal Wound Reveal No One Could Survive That!, just plain killed in battle Jumping
Audience Expectation Anyone Can Die, Kill 'Em All Killed Off for Real, Tonight, Someone Dies Disney Death Back from the Dead, Death Is Cheap, Nobody Can Die
Body Found? Dead and Buried
Only Bits And Pieces
At The Morgue Never Found, Frozen, Petrified Left for Dead
Reaction Montage, Bond One-Liner He's Dead, Jim It's Personal Faux Death
Last Words Crap, Killed Mid-Sentence, Carry on men, His Name Is... Catchphrase, Famous Last Words, Final Speech, Obi-Wan Moment "Fly, you fools!" "Piece of cake" "My Death Is Just the Beginning"
Characterization Red Shirt, Loved One, Mauve Shirt Recurring Character, C-List Fodder Regular Protagonist, Archvillain
When did they die? 10+ years ago, Series Finale 5-10 years ago Same year Same arc
"Died" and come back? Not yet Died once, but got better Twice I've lost count

If the character hasn't died yet (but seems likely to), see Sorting Algorithm of Mortality. All of this is trumped by the First Law of Resurrection.

Currently, Shirley from Code Geass and the real Caulder from Advance Wars: Days of Ruin have scored 4, the highest possible. The latter is more notable by having 4 in every category instead of getting the CLAMP bonus that the former got. No characters have got the lowest possible score of 1 yet, but Bowser is the leader of the death-defying derby at 1.5, even beating South Park's Kenny.

Baseline Example: The death of Superman.

  • Cause: Heroic Sacrifice, so he's not coming back from that too quickly, or the sacrifice will be cheapened. 3.
  • Genre: It's a comic book, so Death Is Cheap. 1.
  • The Body: Deader Than Dead, a Pietà Plagiarism too for supes sake! So no chance of Faking the Dead. 4.
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  • Reaction: Really Dead Montage, uh-oh. 4.
  • Characterization: Protagonist. 1.
  • When did he die: Same year, so 2.
  • Come Back?: This was a first, so 4.
  • Average: So add it up... we get a pretty high score, 19! Since it's not a videogame, divide by 7, and we get... 19/7 = 2.7, meaning supes isn't coming back for at least a few months, maybe even years. In actuality the Death Of Superman happened in January 1993 and he came back some time before May 1994.

Now let's make a prediction with the recent death of Batman in Final Crisis.

  • Cause: Heroic Sacrifice, give or take. 3.
  • Genre: Comic book, so Death Is Cheap. 1.
  • The Body: Dead and buried, but it's a little more complicated. Still, it's a 4.
  • Reaction: He's Dead Clark, plus "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" probably counts as a Really Dead Montage. 3.5.
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  • Last Words: "Try Me." 3.
  • Characterization: It's The Goddamn Batman, people. 1.
  • When did he die: Same year, so 2.
  • Come Back?: This would be the first time, so 4.
  • Average: 21.5/8= 2.7. A semi-high score, and DC seems to be sticking to this one for a while. Still, he'll definitely be back, likely before the end of 2010 at the latest.

Note: This sub-page is for Video Games examples only. Please ensure that you put new examples in the correct Sorting Algorithm of Deadness sub-page.

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    Advance Wars 

Let's start with Sturm in Black Hole Rising:

  • Cause: mix of Bridge Drop and No One Could Survive That! (he was hit by Black Storm) - 3
  • Genre: first "death" in the series. Add the clone usage and it's 1.5
  • Body: seems to be right there, but seeing as he wasn't unmasked, let's count this as Never Found - 3
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Jim - 3
  • Last Words: Oh, Crap! - 4
  • Role: Archvillain - 1
  • When: [[right at the end]] in Black Hole Rising - 1; same year in Dual Strike - 2
  • Come back before: No - 4
  • Average: 20.5/8 = 2.5625 in Black Hole Rising, 21.5/8 = 2.6875 in Dual Strike. He could come back, especially if Hawke had killed a clone.

Dual Strike follows up with a couple. First, the Andy clone:

  • Cause: left to die - 3?
  • Genre: Up to this point, only Sturm had "died", but the clone usage is useless for lowering his score - 2.5
  • Body: Right there - 4
  • Reaction: It's Personal - 2
  • Last Words: Famous Last Words - 3
  • Role: I'd say Red Shirt - 4
  • When: same arc, late in the game - 1
  • Come back before: No - 4
  • Average: 23.5/8 = 2.9375. Not too likely to come back, but another Andy clone may

And Von Bolt:

  • Cause: Karmic Death - 4
  • Genre: see above - 2
  • Body: Right there again - 4
  • Reaction: None given, but then he invited Karma's wrath - 4
  • Last Words: Taking You with Me — failed miserably - 4
  • Role: Archvillain - 1
  • When: right at the end - 1
  • Come back before: No - 4
  • Average: 24/8 = 3. Of course, even if he does come back, he's not even in a condition to sweep any streets.

Now for Days of Ruin. There's a bunch of them. First, the Beast:

Next is Forsythe:

  • Cause: Bridge Drop - 4
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die - 4
  • Body: Right there again - 4
  • Reaction: Montage - 4
  • Last Words: Famous Last Words - 3
  • Role: Anti-Villain - 2.5
  • When: Same arc - 1
  • Come back before: No - 4
  • Average: 26.5/8 = 3.3125. May that coward Greyfield pay for what he did.

And of course, Brenner:

  • Cause: Heroic Sacrifice, could be considered Redemption Equals Death in his own viewpoint - 3
  • Genre: take a wild guess - 4
  • Body: Not Found, but the area got nuked - 3.5
  • Reaction: Montage - 4
  • Last Words: Famous Last Words - 3
  • Role: Regular - 2
  • When: Same arc - 1
  • Come back before: believed to be dead at one point, but other than that, no - 3.5
  • Average: 24/8 = 3. Actually good for being nuked.

Davis in the American version:


The Mayor:

  • Cause: Karmic Death - 4
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die - 4
  • Body: right there - 4
  • Reaction: none, really; can be considered And There Was Much Rejoicing for the audience - 4
  • Last Words: Oh, Crap! - 4
  • Role: recurring character - 3
  • When: same arc, but becomes a year past soon afterwards - 2.5
  • Come back before: no - 4
  • Average: 29.5/8 = 3.6875. He's toast.


  • Cause: Heroic Sacrifice - 4
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die - 4
  • Body: right there again - 4
  • Reaction: Montage - 4
  • Last Words: Famous Last Words - 3
  • Role: recurring character - 3
  • When: same arc, but becomes a year past soon afterwards - 2.5
  • Come back before: no - 4
  • Average: 28.5/8 = 3.5625. May he rest in peace.

The real Dr. Caulder:

  • Cause: Death by Irony - 4
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die - 4
  • Body: A passing reference that he was in a plane crash hints at this in the first place, and his murderer—the clone that was running around—watched him die - 4
  • Reaction: His clone found "watching yourself die" fascinating - 4
  • Last Words: none, but no shown speaking role - 4
  • Role: creator and victim of the Big Bad - 4
  • When: before the start of the game, quite possibly before the meteors - 4
  • Come back before: no, and there barely any hint that the Caulder you fight is a clone - 4
  • Average: 32/8 = 4. You got first place.

And finally, Dr. Caulder himself, or rather, the clone:

  • Cause: Death by Irony (hey, I think I'll not try to escape the player who just turned my Scrappy Level into a joke so that he toys with me and doesn't blow up the last of the lasers right away to destroy the level when he can easily do so any time he pleases, because he must find it...fascinating) - 4
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die - 4
  • Body: Left for Dead - 1
  • Reaction: none, really - 4
  • Last Words: Oh, Crap! - 4
  • Role: Big Bad in an Anyone Can Die game - 4
  • When: same arc, but a year passes after his death - 2.5
  • Come back before: no - 4 (no, being a clone who killed your own creator doesn't lower your score, Caulder)
  • Average: 27.5/8 = 3.4375. Very unlikely, but could come back.

    Assassin's Creed 

Let's try Desmond from Assassin's Creed III:

  • Cause of death: Straightforward Heroic Sacrifice. 3.
  • Audience expectation: Not quite Kill 'Em All territory, but main characters have died before, and The Purge of the Assassins is described in background material. Let's call it a 3.
  • Body status: Recovered by Abstergo; about equivalent to "at the morgue". 3.
  • Reaction: A Really Dead Montage-like...thing from Juno, plus a post-credits cutscene showing that his sacrifice has saved the world. 4.
  • Last words: N/A.
  • Characterization: Protagonist. 1.
  • When did they die?: Two years of real time, putting it between 2 and 3 for a 2.5.
  • "Died" and come back?: Never, unless you count [[spoiler:his coma in the Animus in Assassin's Creed: Revelations. 3.
  • Death value: 2.79. We might see him again later, but probably not for a while.

    Batman Arkham Series 

First and foremost, we have The Joker himself: Spectacular Aversion of Joker Immunity or a Double Subversion of it?:

  • Cause of Death: Death by Irony / Karmic Death, 4.
  • Audience Expectation: Disney Death most likely considering Scarecrow and some others appeared to have survived their apparent deaths in Arkham Asylum, and there's an established method by which characters could come back from the dead; the Lazarus Pits. Although Like You Would Really Do It is in full effect, so 1 is the best answer.
  • Body Found?: Found in Arkham City and cremated on-screen at the beginning of ''Arkham Knight. The Joker gets a 4 here.
  • Reaction: Believe it or not, something close to a Really Dead Montage, since the cutscene following his death puts a big emphasis on the reactions of Joker's mooks to his death. 4
  • Last Words: Difficult to say, though Famous Last Words fits best, 3.
  • Characterization: The Big Bad, 1.
  • When did they die?: The next installment in the series is set a year after his death, so 2.
  • Died and Come Back: While his Comic Book incarnation has died and come back countless times over the years, the time Joker faked his own death in the Arkhamverse was to lure Batman into a false sense of security near the beginning of the game, so a 3.
    • Final Verdict: Ultimately The Joker averages out to 22/8=2.75, so he may come back, but it's not certain.

Next up is Ras Al Ghul from Arkham City. Will his body find its way to a Lazarus Pit or not?:

  • Cause of Death: A failed attempt at Taking You with Me, the best bet is a 2 because of the failure.
  • Audience Expectation: Ra's Al Ghul has Like You Would Really Do It in his favor, though not as much as the character above. However, he has the added bonus of having an established mechanism for coming Back from the Dead, so its a 1.
  • Body Found: We see the body, but it quickly goes missing, so its a 2.
  • Reaction: Faux Death to some extent, not because Batman doubts that he's dead, but because of the aforementioned ability to come Back from the Dead using the Lazarus Pits. 1.
  • Last Words: Technically an Oh, Crap!, but Ra's outlasts his "Last Words" by about 20 seconds, during which he's completely fine physically and attempts a Taking You with Me. So a 3 here.
  • Characterization: The Other Big Bad, 1.
  • When Did They Die: A 2 here for the same reasons as the above character.
  • Died And Come Back?: Once on screen, countless times in backstory: 1.
  • Final Verdict: 1.625. We haven't seen the last of Ra's Al Ghul!!! And with the DLC for Batman: Arkham Knight, he's right back in the game.

On a similar note, next up we have Talia Al Ghul:

  • Cause of Death?: Not exactly crystal clear, but matches Stuffed in the Fridge or Dropped a Bridge on Him the most, so its a 4.
  • Audience Expectation: Since she lacks the Joker Immunity of the two previous characters, its quite possible that Talia might be dead for real in the eyes of the audience. 2 because of other characters apparently cheating death.
  • Body Found?: Like her father's body Talia's disappears during the boss fight following her apparent death, so 2.
  • Reaction: It's Personal, 2.
  • Last Words: Receives wound that kills her mid sentence, but lasts long enough to deliver some last words; 3.
  • Characterization: Loved One, 4.
  • When Did They Die?: 2 for the same reasons as the above characters.
  • Died and Come Back?: Nope, 4.
  • Final Verdict: 2.625, about as likely as The Joker to come back from the dead.

And with the ending of Arkham Knight, there's the Batman himself.

  • Cause of Death?: He walks into his mansion, it explodes, and everyone starts reporting that the Batman is dead, making it No One Could Survive That! 2.
  • Audience Expectation: The game opens with the line "This is the story of how the Batman died," a case of Tonight, Someone Dies. 3.
  • Body Found?: Due to the explosion, his body is never found. 2.
  • Reaction: In something similar to a Bond One-Liner, immediately after the mansion explodes Jim Gordon repeats that "This is the story of how the Batman died." 4.
  • Last Words: "I've got to. It's the only way to protect them." A sort of peaceful acceptance of the death, similar to the My Death Is Just the Beginning trope. 1.
  • Characterization: The main character of Batman is Batman. 1.
  • When Did they Die?: Batman died last five minutes of the series finale, leaving little chance of return. 4.
  • Died and Come Back?: Earlier in the game, Batman was shot in the chest and fell of the building, but came back okay. 3.
  • Final Verdict: 20/8=2.5, halfway between Inferred Survival and gone for the time.

    Battalion Wars 

In the first game, we have Tsar Gorgi:

  • Cause of death: Bridge Drop (he was thrown off a bridge by Ubel right after a battle that his forces had won) - 4
  • Genre: first non-mook casualty so hard to say without information from the second game - 2
  • Body Found: right there, as he was talking with his son - 4
  • Reaction: It's Personal - 2
  • Last Words: Final Speech - 3
  • Characterization: Regular - 2
  • When: same arc, becomes same year before it is bothered with again - 1.5
  • "Died" and come back: nope - 4
  • Average: 22.5/8 = 2.81. Of course, the sequel ups the score by 1 for Genre (Killed Off for Real; he's even a ghost there), 2 for Reaction (Montage, being buried at the Gorgisburg Mausoleum), and 1.5 for When, totaling 27/8 = 3.37. He's not coming back.

And next up is the second game's death victim A-Qira:

  • Cause of death: Bridge Drop (his drink was poisoned by Vlad) - 4
  • Genre: thanks to Tsar Gorgi, Killed Off for Real - 3
  • Body Found: Left for Dead - 1
  • Reaction: none given, just doesn't appear in the ending - 2.5
  • Characterization: Regular, although proud - 2.5
  • Last Words: Oh, Crap! ("Poison! Treachery!") - 4
  • When: same arc, same year by the end of the game - 1.5
  • "Died" and come back: nope - 4
  • Average: 22.5/8 = 2.81. Assuming we don't see him pull a Tsar Gorgi in the next game if it is made, there's still hope for our good admiral. Though his last words reduce his chances.

Countess Ingrid from the first game:

  • Cause of death: Hard to call. The character was beyond salvation, so I guess it would be redemption - 3
  • Genre: As stated before, Killed Off for Real - 3
  • Body Found: Left for Dead - 1
  • Reaction: None per se - 3
  • Characterisation: Regular - 2
  • Last Words: Famous Last Words ("You have made a grave error in coming here, Empress!") - 3
  • When: Same year - 2
  • "Died" and came back: No - 4
  • Average: 21 points, or 2.625. Given the fact that she's entombed with the Iron Legion, essentially, it's not too farfetched to see this character coming back.


Surprise, surprise! They killed off Yuuki Terumi in BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma! How likely is he gonna come back?:

  • Cause of death: Died anticlimatically with Time Killer, having all his time before his natural death destroyed. Thus Bridge Drop. 4
  • Audience expectation: Anyone Can Die. 4.
  • Body found: He fell off to the nearest body with Platinum and his body is never found, or no one bothers to. 2
  • Reaction: Unclear as it is a bit vague. Will get back to this, but for now, discounted.
  • Last words: "If I'm dead, I'm taking you (Platinum) with me!" Very close to 'Crap!'. 4.
  • Characterization: He's the Arch Villain... or so he thinks. But he's a pretty major character. Not to mention the fanbase LOOOOVES him! 1.
  • When did they die?: Now this is very confusing. He died in the most recent arc, so it should be 1. However, Chronophantasma is very much the climax of the story and nearing the Grand Finale, so it should be 4. Let's take the center and make it 2.5
  • "Died" and come back?: Was once killed on purpose by Relius and then still came back. We'll say... just once and got better. 3
  • Death value: 20.5/7: 2.93. Above average, so I think if Terumi wants to come back, wait until another arc that is not about the tales of Ragna.
    • Message from Ragna: You've had your fun. Now fuck off forever. I ain't giving you a choice in the matter, asshole.

    Chrono Trigger 

Lucca, who was apparently killed by Lynx in Chrono Cross:

  • Cause: Sudden Sequel Death Syndrome, and pretty gratuitous as well, going from being able to punching out Cthulhu to getting killed by some panther furry. I'd say that counts as a Bridge Drop. 4.
  • Genre: Well, judging from the first game, Death Is Cheap, but Chrono Cross tries to establish an Anyone Can Die sort of mood, so we'll just average 4 and 1 and say 2.5.
  • Body: Never Found. 3.
  • Reaction: Definitely It's Personal for Kid. 2.
  • Last Words: We never actually hear them, but she does leave a parting letter, so... Final Speech. 3.
  • Characterization: One of the three main protagonists of the last game, though it could also count as a loved one. This time, I'll lean toward Protagonist and say 1.
  • When Did They Die?: More than ten years before the start of Chrono Cross... 4. Uh oh.
  • Came Back?: Not yet... 4.
  • Total: 23.5/8 = just under 3. That's pretty high, but it doesn't totally rule out a return for Chrono 3... if they ever get around to making it.

Crono's Plotline Death in the first game:

  • Cause: Heroic Sacrifice = 3
  • Genre: Chrono Trigger is very idealistic, so I'd say = 2.5
  • Body: Vaporized = Never found? = 3
  • Reaction: Average reaction from the other characters. I'd say = 2.5
  • Last Words: None... unsurprisingly, since he never speaks = N/A
  • Characterization: Protagonist = 1.
  • When: Same game = same arc I'd say. = 1
  • Came back?: Never really died before. = N/A
  • Result: 2.17 = Probably Back Quite Soon. And if you bother to resurrect him, he indeed comes back fairly quickly.

    Command & Conquer 

Kane's death from the first game.

  • Cause of death? He got directly hit by a massive satellite laser - no one could survive that.
  • Genre? Killed Off For Real - many main characters die.
  • Body found? It was assumed to be vaporized.
  • Reaction? The GDI wrote him off as dead, and Nod thought so too began fighting among themselves - a He's Dead Jim.
  • Characterization? Archvillain.
  • When did he die? Same arc - he dies at the end of the game. 14/6 = 2.3.
  • Conclusion? Kane appeared at the beginning of the game's sequel. In terms of playing time, he was never really out of the running - in the game's universe, however, he was "dead" for about 20 years. Close enough to Back Next Episode.
    • And by the time we start getting into the later games, it becomes evident that his big shtick is the dying over and over and over...

    Devil Summoner 

The one important character to die from Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army.

  • Cause: No One Could Survive That! and Heroic Sacrifice by satellite blowing up. That's a 5.
  • Genre: (I don't know, needs calculation)
  • Body: Not sure where to put this one, see cause of death.
  • Reaction: Felt like an It's Personal to me. So 2.
  • Characterization: I would call him a Regular. 2.
  • When: Towards the end, I'd call that... same arc? 1?
  • Died and Came Back: Nope, so 4.

    Divinity: Original Sin II 

Bishop Alexandar the first time

  • Cause: Killed in battle: 2
  • Genre: Killed off for real: 3
  • Body: Even though you can turn him into gibs or dust, canonically he's left for dead: 1
  • Reaction: Combination of Bond One-Liner (Ifan) and It's Personal (Alexandar's soldiers): 3
  • Last Words: Ranting at the heroes about bringing in a giant voidwoken worm (which was just bad luck). Let's go with crap: 4
  • Characterization: Archvillain, up to now: 1
  • When: End of first arc, so let's say same year: 2
  • Came back: No: 4
  • Score: 2 (he lives, but isn't seen for quite some time)

    Dragon Age 


  • Cause of death: Presumably decapitated by a Hurlock Alpha after having been mortally wounded performing a Dying Moment of Awesome. 2
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die. 4
  • Body Found? Nope. 3
  • Reaction: It's Personal from Alistair. 2
  • Last Words: None. N/A.
  • Characterization: The Mentor. 4.
  • When did they die?: Beginning of game. 3
  • "Died" and come back?: Not yet. 4
  • Average: 3.14. Surprisingly high for a character that the fandom is convinced is still alive. Word of God is that he's been Killed Off for Real.


  • Cause of death: Slain after long and grueling Bonus Boss fight. If finished off by a melee fighter, has an impressive death animation. 2
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die. 4
  • Body found: Yes, but it never reverted from its transformation into a High Dragon. 3.5
  • Reaction: Even her Codex entry doubts that she's really dead. 1
  • Last Words: "It is a dance Flemeth knows well. Let us see if she remembers the steps." 1
  • Characterization: Centuries old sorceress of myth. 1
  • When did they die?: Most players won't be strong enough to kill her until late in the game. 2.
  • "Died" and come back?: Repeatedly resurrected herself via her daughters through the generations. 1
  • Average: 1.722. Looks like we'll be seeing more of her. In Dragon Age II, it's revealed that she cheated death by using a Soul Jar to create a copy of herself.


    Dragon Quest 

Greygnarl in Dragon Quest IX:

  • Cause of Death: Makes a Heroic Sacrifice to protect his hometown. 3.
  • Audience Expectation: Killed Off for Real more than anything else. 3.
  • Body Found?: When the blast of light fades after he is hit by the enormous attack, he's disappeared. 2.
  • Reaction: Not much of one, to be honest, although the characters mention avenging him as another reason to stop the bad guys, which is close enough to It's Personal for this algorithm. 2.
  • Last Words: Gives his Famous Last Words to the hero before giving himself up. 3.
  • Characterisation: Eh... In the grand scheme of things, C-List Fodder. 3.
  • When did they die?: Dragon Quest games tend to be self-contained, so it's effectively the same arc. 1.
  • 'Died' and came back?: No, not that we know of. 4.

That comes to 21, which divided by 8 gives 2.63. Surprisingly low, given the number of threes that he got, but the game would have you believe that he's snuffed it for good. You should therefore all be rather surprised to discover that he is an extra grotto boss later on.

    Dreamfall: The Longest Journey 

April Ryan:

  • Cause of death: No One Could Survive That!, so 2.
  • Genre: it's adventure game series, but considering how low was the death rate until now... I say Disney Death. 2.
  • Body Found? Stabbed by a pike and thrown off the pier? That's Left for Dead, I guess. 1.
  • Reaction: It's Personal, so 2. Kian is seriously pissed off now!
  • Last Words: Final Speech...ish. I give 3 for this one.
  • Characterization: Protagonist! 1.
  • When did they die? Same arc. 1.
  • "Died" and come back? Nuh-uh. 4.
  • Final count 2. See you in next game...

    The Elder Scrolls 


  • Cause: just plain killed in a duel by the player character. I think that's about 3.
  • Genre: High Fantasy. Technically in this universe death isn't cheap, but godlike beings tend to pop back into existence more or less often. Let's give her a 2.
  • Body Found: Left for dead in the Clockwork City. A clear-cut 1.
  • Reaction: No one believed she's dead. 1
  • Last Words: a "Piece of cake" speech about how she's going to off Nerevarine. 2
  • Character: archvillainess / fallen heroine. 1
  • When: In Skyrim's times it's about 200 years after her death. 4
  • How many times: Not yet. 4
Score: 2.57. Something between "Be back soon" and "Maybe back later".
  • Almalexia did in fact return, but in a prequel rather in a sequel, if you don't count C0DA as canon. If you do, she's totally back.

    Final Fantasy 


  • Cause of death: Overkill (How many swords did Cloud use, please?). 4
  • Genre: Back from the dead. 1
  • Body Found: Didn't really have an actual body this time.
  • Reaction: It's personal. Geostima? Didn't actually need it, just wanted to mess with Cloud. 2
  • Last Words: "I'll never be a memory." 1
  • Characterization: Archvillian. 1
  • When did they die: Same Arc. 1
  • Died and come back: Twice. 2
1.7142. Mama's boy is coming back, did anyone doubt it?
  • He won against the Master and Davros. Yes, he IS that awesome.

Fang and Vanille

  • Cause of death : Heroic Sacrifice. 3
  • Genre : Well, Death Is Cheap is the choice here, since all the "dead" main characters but Nora Estheim come back. 1
  • Body Found : Analogous to Frozen. 2
  • Reaction : Their part of the ending cutscene and the novella episode i could count as a Montage. 4
  • Last Words : They talk to the others after their death and tell them they'll watch them or something, counts as a Final Speech. 3
  • Characterization : Two protagonists. 1
  • When : A little more than a year ago, so… let's say same year. 2
  • "Died" and came back : Well, they already went to crystal stasis and came back, so… Once and got better. 3
2,375. They should be back in XIII-2.

While we're on the subject, let's talk about Serah:

  • Cause of death : Knew that she would die if she continued her journey, but did so anyway, so it's a sacrifice. 3
  • Genre : As above, Death Is Cheap. 1
  • Body Found : Not applicable, as it happens in front of her companions.
  • Reaction : He's Dead, Jim occurs at the time, while the Requiem Of The Goddess DLC makes it a montage. 3.5
  • Last Words : Manages a strained and short Final Speech before death. 3
  • Characterization : Protagonist. 1
  • When : The Ending. 4
  • "Died" and came back : Crystal Stasis in the first game. 3
Average of 2.643, so she'll be back sometime soon (assuming there's another sequel of course).

    Fire Emblem 

Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War's mass slaughter of the player's allies at the Battle of Barhara.

Let's start with Levin:

  • Cause: Bridge Drop. 4
  • Genre: Fire Emblem is noted for it's perma death, but Jugdral is the one universe where the power to bring back the dead can be used more than once. 3
  • Body Found: Not mentioned.
  • Reaction: His kids are pretty miffed, 2.
  • Last words:Not applied
  • Character: Regular 2
  • When: Over 10 years between the 2 generations. 4
  • Died and come back: The player can use the Valkyrie staff on him, but that only happens if they screw up badly enough to get a Holsety user killed, which is very rare. Not yet: 4
  • 20 and 6: 3.3 It takes divine intervention to get him back

Now someone who isn't confirmed Ira:

  • Cause: Same. 4
  • Genre: same. 3
  • Body found: The 5th game says at least some of the women at the battle were alive... and got turned to stone. Frozen. 2
  • Reaction: again, 2nd gen is quite annoyed, 2
  • Last words: ?
  • Character: Unlike Levin, not a holy weapon holder, so I'd rank her a 3
  • When: again, over 10 years in game AND about 10 years IRL, 4
  • Come back: Again, not yet. 4
  • 22 by 7: 3.142. Hey Levin lives (and is forced to abandon his children granted) with a higher score... Given her popularity she has a chance if an FE4 (preferably combined with FE5) remake is done.

For comparison, let's do someone who has come back in the series: Michalis in FE1, FE3 book 1 and Shadow Dragon:

  • Cause of death: Killed by Marth's army (FE3 says that canonically his sister defeated him but couldn't kill him). Given that it wasn't until latter that story units got unhealable wounds instead of dieing, reaching 0 HP in Fire Emblem is pretty dead. 2?
  • Genre: Anyone can die. 4
  • Body found: No mention is given to what happened to it in the original, but said to be cared for by his sister in FE3. 1
  • Reaction: 3 (We really need examples of what warrents what for villain deaths)
  • Last words: "Aaagh… I am finished… Forgive me…my people…" 4?
  • Character: Major enemy, but this is his first time actually appearing: 3.5
  • When: 4 out of universe, 5 in. 3
  • Deaths: Not yet 4
  • Back for a redemption equals death]]

Now for said death:

  • Cause: 3
  • Genre: 4
  • Found: Yep, I think it's just abandoned given it's a battlefield. 1
  • Reaction: Marth just shouts his name. 2?
  • Last words: "Your highness... I leave Maria’s fate to you..." 3?
  • Character: I can say he at least somewhat counts as a "loved one" now though. 4.
  • When: 6 years between the original and remake, same arc between his "death" and comeback in story. ?
  • Deaths: once, 3.
  • 20+ "when"'s result. Either a 3 or a 1. 2.8 or 2.6 and he's back in the remake if you do it right.

And Hardin:

  • Cause: Redemeption (technically not him that was evil, but counts) 3
  • Genre: 4
  • Found: ?
  • Reaction: Not mentioned for a bit, but Camus gives a "He's dead Jim" in the final. 3
  • Character: main villain of the arc 1.
  • When: Same year. 2
  • Deaths: None, 4.
  • 17/7 2.4 he stays dead in both FE3 AND FE12.

From Fire Emblem Awakening, The Avatar, in the "Destroy Grima" ending:

  • Cause of Death: Heroic Sacrifice due to Synchronization. However, Naga explicitly says it's possible s/he might survive it. 2
  • Genre: Awakening still falls under Anyone Can Die, and unlike some of the earlier games, there's no Aum staff. On the other hand the Spotpass characters are all Disney Deaths, but they're dubiously canon, so I'll split the difference and call it a 3.
  • Body Found: Disintegrates in plain sight of everyone. 4
  • Reaction: A heartfelt farewell and montage with friends and loved ones, but most everyone thinks s/he isn't dead. 2
  • Last Words: "May we meet again, in another life..." doesn't say anything about this life. 2
  • Characterization: Player Character and arguably the protagonist. 1
  • When did they die?: End of the game. Possibly the Series Finale if Awakening didn't do as well as it did. 4
  • "Died" and come back?: Nope. Every other time s/he could have died, it stuck. 4
  • 22/7 = 3.14. Surprisingly high considering s/he comes back right after the credits roll.

Let's look at Azura from Fire Emblem Fates (Birthright path):

  • Cause of Death: Heroic Sacrifice (was using powers that were Cast from Lifespan, used them until it killed her). 3.
  • Genre: Fates is even more Anyone Can Die than past games, since it not only lacks a way of bringing characters back, it's not afraid to give your party members a Plotline Death (as seen here). 4.
  • Body Found: Evaporates in front of everyone. 4.
  • Reaction: General shock, horror and sorrow, since it was happening so fast. 3.
  • Famous Last Words: Begging the Player Character not to cry about her dying. 3.
  • Characterization: The deuteragonist. 1.
  • When did they die?": End of the game. 4.
  • "Died" and come back?: Nope. 4.
  • 26/8 = 3.25. She's not coming back, and according to the epilogue, she doesn't.

Now a look at her death on the Conquest path:

  • Cause of Death: Overuse of the same Cast from Lifespan powers, though not quite a Heroic Sacrifice this time. Average it out to a 2.5.
  • Genre: Same as before. 4.
  • Body Found: No. She leaves so no one has to watch her die. 1.
  • Reaction: Confusion and wondering where she went. 2.5
  • Famous Last Words: A subtle goodbye speech to the protagonist. 3.
  • Characterization: Same as before. 1.
  • When did they die?: Same as before. 4.
  • "Died" and come back?: Still the same. 4.
  • 22/8 = 2.75. Well, she has a better chance of surviving here than in Birthright, but according to the epilogue no one ever saw her again.

    Gears of War 

Private Antony Carmine:

  • Cause of Death: Got sniped in the head because a) he was wearing a helmet (and thus lacked peripheral vision), and b) he was dumb enough to stand up in the middle of a firefight. Definitely Death by Irony. 4.
  • Genre: Not really Anyone Can Die, as the only characters to die are the ones expected to (the Red Shirt, the Squad Leader, and the Big Bad). Otherwise, though, death is handled realistically, so, Killed Off for Real. 3.
  • Body Found?: We see his head burst (or at least blood splatter), but the actual body is left behind for dead (the squad was being shot at and chased off at the time), so somewhere between Never Found the Body and Deader Than Dead. I'd say 3.5.
  • Reaction: No real reaction other than brief surprise, since the surviving squad members are busy being shot at. I'm gonna say not applicable.
  • Characterization: Red Shirt. Carmine is even a shade of red. A definite 4.
  • When did they die?: Gears of War 2 takes place, what, a year after the original game? 2.
  • Died and came back?: Nope. Realistically, this is a Killed Off for Real genre. 4.
  • Average: 3.42. He should be just another forgotten dead Red Shirt. And yet Word of God is that he's coming back in the sequel... How's that for accuracy, folks?
  • Although "a" Carmine joined Fenix's gang in Gears of War 2, it was not the original Carmine; it was his brother.


Dr. Breen in Half Life 2:

  • Cause: Last seen trapped in a teleporter device about 50 feet below the epi-center of a massive explosion, so definitely No One Could Survive That!. 2.
  • Genre: No major characters have died yet (Eli's fate is still in limbo until Episode 3 comes out). Alyx was pretty much dead, but brought back to life by the Vortigaunts, so Back from the Dead. 1.
  • Body Found?: Nope. See Cause. 3.
  • Reaction: Almost none at all, actually. The protagonists don't celebrate (or even really remark on) his death, although one civilian does miss his show (he used to have jugglers!). No score.
  • Characterization: Main antagonist (although ultimately he was just a tool of the Combine), so 1.
  • When did they die: Technically, Episodes are expansion packs to Half Life 2, so Same Arc. 1.
  • Died and Come Back?: Never happened, because no one's died yet. 4.
  • Average: An even 2. I guess we'll be seeing him in Episode 3, so literally Back Next Episode. There's good money that the Combine Advisor in Episode 2 is his new "host body".

Eli Vance, last seen being cranium-raped by a giant alien slug in the Downer Ending of Episode 2:

  • Cause: Well, he gave Gordon his final orders, then attacked the Advisor to distract it, so a Heroic Sacrifice. 3.
  • Genre: Same series, so 1 (see above).
  • Body Found?: Episode 2 fades out just as you reach his body, so there hasn't been time to check for a pulse, but he really looks Deader Than Dead. 4.
  • Reaction: The game fades out with Alyx's hearfelt sobs over her father's body. This is obviously It's Personal, to get us in the mood to kick Advisor ass in Episode 3. The rather down mood also kind of makes it He's Dead, Jim, too. I'll say 2.5.
  • Characterization: Loved One. AND Wise Old Mentor to boot. Definitely a 4.
  • When Did They Die?: The story is currently right up to his death, so definitely same arc. 1.
  • Died and Come Back?: Nope. 4.
  • Average: 2.79. I suppose he could just be a vegetable...


Sgt. Johnson's death from the very end of the Halo Trilogy:

  • Cause of Death: He makes it to the very end of the trilogy, only to be killed off completely out of left field by Guilty Spark to set up the final battle. Sounds a lot like they Dropped a Bridge on Him, but he also uses his last shot to save Master Chief from Spark, so it might count as a Heroic Sacrifice instead. I'll give him a 3.5.
  • Genre: Nominally Killed Off for Real, although by the end pretty much everyone is dead except for Chief, Cortana, and Arbiter, so might count as Anyone Can Die also. Again, I'll split the difference and give it a 3.5.
  • Body Found?: Died in Master Chief's arms. Chief never bothered to take a pulse, but I'll assume he's not an idiot and had some way of knowing Johnson had expired and not simply passed out. And then the Halo he died on blew up, although see below... So, Deader Than Dead. 4.
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Jim. 3.
  • Characterization: Started out as a Red Shirt in Halo, but was made a series Regular in Halo 2. 2.
  • When did they die?: Doesn't really count, since the series ends after his death. No score.
  • Died and came back?: There was that little matter of being on a giant Ringworld just as it gets blown up in a massive explosion, yet coming back alive and well for the sequel. So a definite yes, he's done it before. 3.
  • Average = 3.17. Rest in Peace, Sarge. "You were one hard-core son of a bitch".


  • Cause of Death: Heroic Sacrifice / No One Could Survive That!. Shields the Master Chief from a nuke. 2.5
  • Genre: Kill 'Em All. Earth's colonies burn, and Earth's own population is reduced to 200 million. Capable, sympathetic people like Sgt. Johnson, Capt. Keyes, and his daughter, Lt. Commander Keyes are killed. Reach is a game in which all of your friends are killed and then you sacrifice yourself. Only Sgt. Johnson has been brought back from apparent death. 4
  • Body Found?: Never Found the Body. Cortana herself told John she would not survive the explosion, though. 2.5
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Jim. Lasky consoles the Chief on his loss. 3
  • Last Words: Obi-Wan Moment. Cortana uses the last of her strength to say goodbye. 3
  • Characterization: Protagonist/Regular. Easily the second-most important character. 1.5
  • When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
  • "Died" and came back?: Left behind surrounded by enemies on High Charity. 3.5
  • Average: 2.75. Probably replaced by "another Cortana model".


  • Cause of Death: Jumping after taking a grenade to the chest. 1.5
  • Genre: Killed Off for Real. 343 Guilty Spark survived the destruction of his installation, but the Prophets stayed dead. 3
  • Body Found?: Left for Dead, then nuked. 1.5
  • Reaction?: He's Dead, Jim. Cortana congratulates the Chief for saving the day as always. 3
  • Last Words: Famous Last Words / Final Speech. Attacked by Cortana, he tells her that "Your compassion for mankind is misplaced." "I'm not doing this for mankind," she replies. Voiceover explanation of his motives on the epilogue. 3
  • Characterization: Archvillain. A lot of lore has gone into setting up the Didact/Librarian story. 1
  • When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
  • "Died" and came back?: Once as the Ur-Didact, once as Bornstellar. 2
  • Average: 2.13. The Chief hasn't seen the last of him.

    Kid Icarus 

Hades from Kid Icarus: Uprising

  • Cause: Overkill including but not limited to getting his torso chopped off, his head ripped off his body, and getting blasted to ashes, 4
  • Genre: Death Is Cheap when it comes to gods, 1
  • Body: Got blasted into dust by a giant laser beam during the Final Battle; Hades even said he isn't even sure if he can get his body back, 4
  • Reaction: Pit does a V-Sign after he won; that could count as a Bond One-Liner, 4
  • Last Words: Hades said Famous Last Words as he was dying, 3
  • Characterization: Serves as the Big Bad of the last two-thirds of the game, 1
  • When: He just died, 1
  • Died and Come Back: As far as we know, this is the first time Hades died, 4
Score: 22/8 = 2.75 Hades may come back since he probably has at least 25 years before the next game comes out; that's plenty of time to figure out a way to come back.

    The King of Fighters 

Rugal Bernstein:

  • Cause of death: disintegrated by trying to control his own power. 4
  • Genre: Mostly Killed Off for Real, but Mature and Vice kinda resurrected in KOF XIII, so 2.5
  • Body found? Nope, he was deintegrated. There wasn't any body left. 4
  • Reaction: None. 4
  • Last words: "I'll be back". 1
  • Characterization: Archvillain. 1
  • When did he die? Hard to tell, really, but two arcs have passed without him resurrecting. So 3.5
  • Died and come back? Never in canon. 4
  • Average: 2.875. He won't be back at least until SNK forgets about his son... or until another Dream Match.

    Legend of Zelda 

Ganon's most recent "Death" in Breath of the Wild:

  • Cause: Soul sealed away by Zelda's Magic. 1
  • Genre: While Zelda has occasionally killed characters for real, Disney Death's are far more common. 2
  • Body: Destroyed in combat. 4
  • Reaction: Zelda later says Ganon is gone "for now". 1
  • Last Words: None in this game. N.A
  • Characterization: Big Bad, and reoccurring villain. 1
  • When did they die: In the most recent game. 1
  • "Died" and come back?: A minimum of 5 times, more if you count coming back in Alternate Timelines. 1
  • Average: 11/7=1.57, Gone "for now" indeed. Ganon's death score is even less than South Park's Kenny, and comes within a fraction of tying fellow Nintendo antagonist Bowser.

    Magical Vacation 

Semolina in Magical Starsign:

  • Cause: One part Heroic Sacrifice, two parts Driven to Suicide. 3.5, maybe.
  • Genre: Brownie Brown made this. They also did a lot of work on MOTHER 3. Probably 3.
  • Body: It's now a Cosmic Keystone. Definately 4.
  • Reaction: 3.5, clearly dead, and that she's at least with them in spirit.
  • Last Words: Boils down to 'I'll make the sacrifice so no one else has to'. 3.
  • Characterization: Recurring Character. 3.
  • When: 1.5. She's around kind of early, but makes her sacrifice 15-20 hours into the game.
  • Died Before: None, 4.
  • 25.5/8 = 3.1875. Not that she wants to come back.

Magnus Muzzleflash:

  • Cause: Kamehame Hadoken into space. Hard to say, probably 2.
  • Genre: 3, Cerebus Syndrome is in full swing.
  • Body: Left for Dead, 1
  • Reaction: Never mentioned again. Plus it happens in a cutscene. 4, most likely.
  • Last Words: Probably Oh, Crap!, if they could speak during cutscenes. 4.
  • Characterization: Mentioned earlier, though he's one of the few bosses who don't just flee. 4, maybe.
  • When: Same arc, 1.
  • Died Before: Nope, 4.
  • 21/8 = 2.625 - He could probably show up in a sequel, if there ever is one.


Brie Porre:

  • Cause: Injured by a boss, after showing signs of redemption. 3?
  • Genre: 3
  • Body: right there. 4
  • Reaction: Montage. 4
  • Last Words: Telling the party to run. 2
  • Characterization: Showed up much earlier, only just started getting characterization. 3.5
  • When: Same arc. 1
  • Died Before: Nope. 4
  • 24.5/8 = 3.0625, Yet she's alive again before the cutscene is over.

Detective Beignet:

  • Cause: Injured by a boss. 2
  • Genre: 3
  • Body Found: You escape before seeing what happens. Left for Dead 1
  • Reaction: The party is not happy about the current situation. 2
  • Last Words: You Shall Not Pass! 2
  • Characterization: Reccurring Character. 3
  • When: 1.
  • Died before: Not him either. 4
  • 18/8 = 2.25. His fate's pretty vague all around.

Biek Fowler:

  • Cause: Taking You with Me inturrupted by a Cross-flare from behind. 4
  • Genre: 3
  • Body Found: It's hard to tell if there is one, but his armor's still there. 4
  • Reaction: The only thing they care about is whether the bomb still works. 4
  • Last Words: Famous Last Words. 3
  • Characterization: High up on the Sorting Algorithm of Evil, and that's about it. 3?
  • When: 1
  • Died before: No. 4
  • 26/8 = 3.25. He's not coming back from that.


  • Cause: I'd call it a Heroic Sacrifice with an appitizer of redemption. 3
  • Genre: 3? That's seeming a bit low at this point...
  • Body found: Off screen, and the party is warped away quickly. 1
  • Reaction: The Party is not happy. 2
  • Last words: probably qualify as a 2
  • Characterization: Recurring Character. 3
  • When: 1
  • Died before: No. 4
  • 19/8 = 2.375. If you ignore the game saying not to look back, you can find out he survived almost immediately.

Master Chard:

Master Kale:

Miss Madeline:

On the other hand, it's already been established that Magic-users can be reincarnated. So if they do another 800 year time skip...

    Mass Effect 

Kaidan/Ashley on Virmire:

  • Cause: Heroic Sacrifice by way of a multi-kiloton nuke, 3
  • Genre: The whole Virmire incident seems to say that Anyone Can Die, so a 4
  • Body: Never Found, 3
  • Reaction: Between montage and He's dead, 3.5
  • Characterization: The border between Mauve shirt and Regular, so I'll give 'em a 2.5
  • When? By Mass Effect 2 it'll be into "Same Year" territory. 2
  • Died and come back? Nope. 4, that's not good!
  • I got a straight up 3, for back next season. Trumped by Word of God, which says that they're staying dead.

For that matter, Saren (the first time):

  • Cause: Redemption - 3
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die - 4
  • Body: 1.5 - would have been Left for Dead, but one of your team members shoots him again to make sure.
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Jim - 3
  • Last words: Final Speech - 3
  • Characterization: Archvillan initially (except he actually isn't) - 1.5
  • When: Same arc - 1
  • Died and come back: No - 4
  • Overall: 3. He comes back immediately after.

And, just for fun since we know the outcome, the first time Commander Shepard dies at the beginning of ME2:

  • Cause: Do they make bridges big enough to drop on entire ships? That said, Shepard died trying to save Joker, so maybe we could count this as a Heroic Sacrifice, as well. 3.5
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die, as seen above. 4
  • Body: Eventually found years later by Liara. Still very much dead. 3.5
    • I'd call that frozen; his helmet was intact, and the planet it landed on was well below the temperature needed to preserve the head inside.
  • Reaction: Got a trope named after it: We Were Your Team. 4
  • Last Words: "Get the hell out of here, Joker!" 2
  • Characterization: Main character. 1
  • When: Start of the game count as same arc? 1
  • Died and Came Back: Maybe once if you count that Disney Death at the end of ME1. 3
  • So 22/8 gives us 2.75. Pretty high score for a main character, and I was being light on some of them.

Let's do Shepard again, this time for really screwing up the suicide mission. Word of God is that you can't import a save where Shepard died into 3, so let's keep that in mind:

  • Cause: Looks like a Heroic Sacrifice to me. Joker probably would've kept on trying to hold off the Collectors and gotten killed either by them or the explosion that takes out the Collector Base, no news would've been brought back. 3.
  • Genre: ME2 is reasonably far into Anyone Can Die territory, so 4.
  • Body: Depending on your choice in the endgame (destroying the Collector Base or handing it over to Cerberus), he either fell a huge distance and then got nuked, or just fell a huge distance. 3?
    • nuked either way, the question is whether it's a giant bomb or just a giant radiation pulse intended to kill everything but leave their tech.
  • Reaction: Get the feeling this is a 3. Judging by the ending, Joker is pretty crushed.
  • Last Words: "Joker, you have to tell them!" Putting this as a 2.5.
  • Characterization: THE hero, pretty much. 1
  • When: A bit more than two years ago, but at the very beginning of ME2. Putting this as 1.5.
  • Died and Came Back: Once, so 3. They do make a big deal out of how people do NOT come back from the dead, and how reviving Shepard is an insane exception, however.
  • 2.625. Could come back again, but it'd cheapen his/her first resurrection. Word of God denies it, so let's assume s/he does with so many modifications to his/her body this time that s/he owns all the Reapers bare-handed.

One last run of Shepard, this time at the end of Mass Effect 3 if the destroy ending is taken:

  • Cause: Shepard was sacrificing him/herself to to save the galaxy, making it a 3.
  • Genre: This a game where entire races can be wiped out, guaranteeing a 4.
  • Body found: Never found the body, Judging by Tali's reaction, so 2.
  • Reaction: Montage. 4.
  • Last Words: Obi-Wan moment fits best here, so 3.
  • Characterization: Protagonist. 1.
  • When did they die: Same arc. 1.
  • Died and came back: Once, thanks to the Illusive Man. 3
  • 2.625. The developers have said that this is not the last we will hear of Shepard, so it is possible that Galaxy's greatest hero will return from the dead.

Here's a fun one: Legion:

  • Cause: Sacrificing itself to give its race sentience. 3
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die, mixed with the knowledge that geth platforms can return to the main hub and cheat death. Heavier leaning to the former. 3
  • Body found: Non-applicable for geth.
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Shepard-Commander. 3
  • Last Words: "I know, Tali. But thank you. Keelah se'lai." An excellent Final Speech. 3
  • Characterization: Squadmate, but it's closer to Recurring Character than the likes of Tali or Garrus. 2.5
  • When did they die: Same arc. 1
  • Died and came back: As an individual, no.. which is what Legion was when it died/deactivated. Oddly, arguable as either 4 or 1. The game hints much more heavily at 4, though.
  • Average: 2.714. The Geth did create the Geth VI to replace Legion if it died in Omega-4 as well, so some rendition of Legion may indeed be coming back.

    Mega Man 

Sigma in Mega Man X1 (SNES):

  • Cause: You blow up his body, which is then in an exploding base, which then crashes into the ocean No One Could Survive That!. 2.
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die, for those with characterization 3.
  • Body: Never Found the Body. 3.
  • Reaction: "War is over...credits...Oh h* !l." 1
  • Characterization: Big Bad. 1.
  • When did he die?: Same game, so..1?
  • Revival Count: 4 (first game test, remember that his head pops off and gets grafted onto the giant robot for the first transformation.)
  • Average: 2 + 3 + 3 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 4 = 15, 15/7 = 2.14, high for a villain that announces after the credits he lives, but fits.

Sigma in X8 (PS2):

  • Cause: Killed, body left beaten. 4
  • Genre: Anyone can die, unless your name is X, Zero or Sigma. 1.
  • Body: Deader than dead, doesn't even have the decency to explode. 4.
  • Reaction: Keeping arms guns raised, and then told Sigma was being used and sacrificed 4.
  • Characterization: More of a regular, red herring big bad than the big bad. 2.
  • When did he die?: Same game. 1?
  • Revival Count: 1
  • 4+1+4+4+1+2+1=17, 2.428. Back next episode. If there is a next one.


For the hell of it, let's do Adam from Metroid: Other M

  • Cause of Death: Sacrifice: 3
  • Genre: Anyone can Die (save Ridley): 4
  • Body Found?: No: 2
  • Reaction: It's Personal? 2
  • Last Words: Final Speech: 3
  • Characterization: I'm calling loved one: 4
  • When did they die: Same Arc: 1
  • Died and Come back?: I'm not counting computer Adam, so no: 4
23/8=2.875, so pretty dead.

And Now Ridley from the same game:

  • Cause of death: Overkill: 4
  • Genre: Anyone can Die: 4
  • Body Found: At he morgue pretty much: 3
  • Reaction: he's dead Jim: 3
  • Last Words: If Ridley could talk, he would've said Oh Crap: 4
  • Characterization: Arch-Villian: 1
  • When did they die?: Same Arc: 1
  • Died and Come back?: I lost count: 1
21/8=2.625, and yet he makes his grand, cloned return in Fusion

One more from the game, just for fun: Anthony:

  • Cause of death: Jumping, pretty much: 1
  • Genre: Anyone can die: 4
  • Body Found: No: 2
  • Reaction: It's personal?: 2
  • Last Words: C'mon. I'll call it a 2
  • Characterization: C list fodder: 3
  • When did they die: Same Arc: 1
  • Died and come back: No: 4
2.375. And yet, he comes back.




The Main Character from Persona 3

  • Cause: Heroic Sacrifice: 3.
  • Genre: Killed Off for Real in the initial release of the game, but FES and P3P muddy the waters considerably. 2.5, maybe?
  • Body Found: "The Answer" makes this more or less a 4.
  • Reaction: "The Answer" is all about the other characters' efforts at coping. 4.
  • Characterization: 1.
  • Last Words: "Don't cry," or "It'll be okay." 3.
  • Time of Death: End of the game. The Persona games are loosely connected rather than sharing casts or storylines, so this is almost but not quite equivalent to a Series Finale. 3.
  • Died and Come Back: Had a Disney Death during the final battle; we'll say 3.
  • Average: 23.5/8 = 2.94. Might be back. Persona 4 mentions that Elizabeth has gone in search of a way to save him from the burden of being the Great Seal, which gives some support to the possibility.

    Planescape: Torment 

The Nameless One (non finale):

  • Cause: Jumping onto a trap to set it off and the like: 1
  • Genre: Even for other people, in D&D, Death Is Cheep: 1
  • Body Found: Most places you use it it counts as Left for Dead 1
  • Reaction: The party member reactions don't really fall under anything, but they are mostly sighs of "here we go again": 1
  • Last Words: I forget what his death quotes are, I think they are mostly that dieing still hurts: 1 (though not to sure here)
  • Character: Protagonist 1
  • When: Same Arc 1
  • How many times: I've lost count 1
Score: 1: It doesn't even take him an hour!Hey! Isn't this our first straight "1" guy?

Getting flayed:

  • Cause: The Lady is overkill: 4
  • Genre: 1
  • Body: We don't see it, but flayed bodies remain: 4
  • Reaction: none in-game, but typical Sigil would be "Oh look, another sod got himself flayed!" 3
  • Last words: None
  • Character: 1
  • When: 1
  • Alreddy: 1
15/7 2.1 Suprisingly low for flaying.



  • Cause: No One Could Survive That! - 2
  • Genre: I don't know.
  • Body: The body is destroyed, but you don't know that that's the whole body. Also, software can be stored, so it's sort of like frozen. - 2.5
  • Reaction: Waking Up - 1
  • Last Words: Killed Mid-Sentence. - 4
  • Characterization: Archvillain - 1
  • Died and came back: This is the first appearance, so it's not really applicable.
  • When: Same year, I guess. - 2
  • 12.5/6 = 2.0833 She probably survived.

Companion Cube:

  • Cause: Dropped a Bridge on Him - 4
  • Genre: I don't know.
  • Body: Never found. - 3
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Jim, but it shows him at the, possibly non-canon, ending. I'll call it a 2
  • Last Words: He can't talk.
  • Characterization: Possibly a loved one. I'll just call it a 3
  • Died and came back: Again, first appearance: not applicable.
  • When: Same year again. - 2.
  • 14/5 = 2.8 He's unlikely to come back. Given that he's in the same possibly-canon ending as GlaDOS, if she survives that means he probably does. Of course, that doesn't mean it would actually show him.

    Resident Evil 

After 15 years, Resident Evil 5 subverts Joker Immunity and finally lets you fight and kill series Big Bad Albert Wesker. Will he stay dead?:

  • Cause Of Death: Dropped into boiling lava just prior to taking two simultaneous rocket launcher shots to the face. No One Could Survive That!. 2.
  • Genre: Kind of tricky, as the series has both a whole bunch of Disney Deaths (it's a B-horror game about zombies and supersoldiers, for crying out loud!) and yet also many major supporting characters who were Killed Off for Real. I'll split the difference and give it a 2.5.
  • Body Found?: Finding the body would be a little hard, considering he was dropped into a volcano. Then again, the main characters seem to think they witnessed his death (even thought the moment the rockets hit him is not clearly shown), and if they did hit him his head would probably be Chunky Salsa. Still averages out as 3.
  • Reaction: Surprisingly, none. Then again, by that point the heroes were probably just too damn tired to do much of anything except collapse in exhaustion. No score.
  • Characterization: The series' Big Bad. Particularly significant, as he's been a thorn in our sides for 15 years running. 1.
  • When Did They Die?: In Resident Evil 5 which is roughly 10 years ago in and out of universe as of 2019.
  • Died and Came Back?: Once, infamously. 3
  • Average = 2.3 - They'll bring him back as Sealed Evil in a Can after a few more games.

Alternate result: once you take into account that Wesker was assumed to already be dead by the main character after a plot-relevant encounter inbetween games, the average comes out slightly differently: (2 + 2.5 + 3 + 1 + 2)/5 = 2.1 - Not much difference though, the only question is how long he'll actually be out of commision.

Alternate alternate result: Cause Of Death could be seen as "overkill" (poisoned, stabbed, shot, falls into lava, two rockets), but the way it's shown makes it quite ambiguous whether we actually see the rockets hit his head or not: some people think he gets visibly Chunky Salsa'd while others insist he can be seen ducking at the last minute. This could average out at 3. Now that it's been 10 years since his "death", this is (3+2.5+3+1+2+4)/6 = 2.6. He still has a chance of coming back if the rockets missed or he ducked, but it's looking less likely.


  • Cause of Death: He sacrificed himself for Claire. 3
  • Audience Expectation: 2.5
  • Body found: Stolen by Wesker, thus never found. 2
  • Reaction: Varies. Darkside Chronicles has an It's Personal reaction whereas Code Veronica doesn't show what happened. (Though it's implied that she was crying.) 2.5
  • Last Words: His final speech. 3
  • Characterization: Mauve Shirt, seeing as how he was created specifically to die. 4
  • When Did He Die: 10 years ago. 3
  • Died And Came Back?: Never. 4

24/8= 3. Seeing as how most of the side characters are put on a bus, he may come back. Who knows?

    Rival Schools 

Hyo Imawano in Project Justice:

  • Cause: Body ravaged by being possesed by his dad's spirit. Considering that point in the story he's trying to undo his dad's influence on his views, this is Death by Irony. 4
  • Genre: Conflict here. This is the Fighting Game genre, where usually Death Is Cheap (see also: Bison, M.; Gouken; Mishima, Kazuya). However, this is also a Killed Off F Or Real considering Hyo's seiyuu died (this reason also killed off Zato-1 of Guilty Gear) and Rival Schools really hasn't had any major character deaths yet. Let's split the difference here - 2
  • Body: Pretty much dies in Kyosuke's arms, but like his twin himself, the body has seemingly disappeared. Unless a future RS game shows a funeral, we'll split the difference again. 3.5
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Jim from Batsu. 3
  • Last Words: Famous Last Words to Kyosuke. 3
  • Characterization: He's Kyosuke's beloved twin brother, so Loved One. 4
  • When he died: Since Project Justice is the most recent game in the series so far and was released close to a decade ago - 4
  • Died and come back: The series' first and only major death so far, and no third game yet to see if it happens. 4.
  • Average: 3.4375. His hopes of coming back are as likely as a Rival Schools 3 happening.

    Saints Row 

Lin, in Saints Row

Shogo Akuji, in Saints Row 2

  • Cause of Death:No-one could survive a Texas Funeral (2)
  • Genre: Killed Off for Real (3), it happened to Lin and Carlos!
  • Body Found?: Although on a literal level he has been buried, he is Left for Dead (1)
  • Reaction: None, really other than 'I think Akuji's dead by now.'(3)
  • Last words: Not really words, but there is a 'oh shit' look on his face as he realises he's about to be buried alive, and he spends most of the cutscene begging for his life. Oh, Crap!. (4)
  • Characterisation: C-List Fodder (3) (at my count there's 10 antagonists, and Dane Vogel would be the Big Bad.)
  • When?: There's been two games and several years since. (3)
  • Come back already?: Nope. (4)
  • Average: 23/8: 2.875. He could be back, but don't count on it.

Aisha, in Saints Row 2

Johnny Gat, in Saints Row: The Third

  • Cause of Death: Shot and stuck on a crashing plane, No One Could Survive That!. 2
  • Genre: Lighthearted as the series is, death tends to stick, so Killed Off for Real. 3
  • Body Found?: Difficult one, as while a funeral is held for him, no one specifies whether they ever actually found his body for burial. It's either Dead And Buried or Never Found the Body, so let's split the difference and say 3.
  • Reaction: It's Personal through and through. 2
  • Last words: Killed Mid-Sentence, not good. 4
  • Characterisation: Technically a regular, but also the series' most popular character, so he's a 1.
  • When?: Same arc. 1
  • Come back already?: Been through several near-death situations, but no actual "death". 4
  • Average: 20/8=2,5. Pretty good odds. Indeed, the sequel confirnes he survived.

    Star Fox 


  • Cause: Blown up by Fox's Arwing. 4
  • Genre: Disney Death 2
  • Body: Not found, but given Fox had to outrun that explosion in a spaceship, survival seems unlikely. 3
  • Reaction: It's Personal for Fox 2
  • Last Words: "Curse you James McCloud. Why can't you stay dead!" 3
  • Characterization: Series Big Bad 1
  • When did they die: Star Fox Zero 1
  • "Died" and come back?: Counting the series other alternate continuity's, three times. 2
  • Average: 18/8=2.25, Despite the circumstances of his death, Andross seems to good chance of coming back... if the franchise can manage to stay alive that is.

James McCloud:

  • Cause: Heroic Sacrifice. 3
  • Genre: Disney Death 2
  • Body: Left for Dead 1
  • Reaction: Fox vows to take down Andross. 2
  • Last Words: Unknown. N.A
  • Characterization: Protagonist's father and mentor. 4
  • When did they die: In the original SNES Star Fox. 4
  • "Died" and come back?: At least twice, but it's unknown if that was really him, or a ghost/illusion. 2.5
  • Average: 18.5/7=2.64, While the circumstances of his death give him fair chance of coming back, his role as a loved one and his Death by Origin Story status definitely lower his chances.

    Star Wars: The Old Republic 


  • Cause of Death: Defeat in battle. 2.
  • Audience Expectation: Killed Off for Real seems to be the norm for SW characters. 3.
  • Body Found: Nope, vanished in a puff of light. 2.
  • Reaction: Generally assumed to be dead. 3.
  • Last Words: Echoes Malak's dying words. 3.
  • Characterization: A former protagonist and one of the most popular SW EU characters. 1.
  • When did he die?: Not quite sure how to sort this. Let's say 2.
  • Died and come back?: Twice. 2.
Average: 2.25. Even if the SWTOR people don't already plan to bring him back, someone else will.


Fenix's second death:

  • Cause: Killed off like a regular unit. 2
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die. 4
  • Body Found: Laying in a pile of Dragoon goo. 4
  • Reaction: It's Personal (He's the Protagonist's best friend, and he's angry.) 2
  • Characterization: Regular. 2
  • When: 10 years ago. 3
  • Died and Came Back: Once before. 3
  • Average: 2.857. The sequel's coming out soon, so hopes are we see him again.

Edmund Duke:

  • Cause: Same as Fenix. 2
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die. 4
  • Body Found: Crashed with his ship, but possibly retrieved for burial.. 4
  • Reaction: Mengsk doesn't care that Kerrigan killed his second-in-command. He's mostly angry because she betrayed him. 3
  • Characterization: Regular. 2
  • When: 10 years ago. 3
  • Died and Came Back: Never. 4
  • Average: 3.143.

    Street Fighter 

Charlie Nash in Street Fighter Alpha 3:

  • Cause: According to Guile's A3 ending, holding back M. Bison long enough to allow explosives set up by Guile and Charlie to blow up Shadaloo's base. Mix of No One Could Survive That! and Heroic Sacrifice. 2.5
  • Genre: This is Street Fighter, so Death Is Cheap. 1
  • Body: Never found, confirmed by Guile's SF IV intro. 3
  • Reaction: It's Personal for Guile. 2
  • Last Words: Telling Guile that he'll finish off Bison and to get out of the base. Something of a mix of "Run!" and Famous Last Words, so 2.5
  • Characterization: His presence in the Alpha series is there to give impetus to Guile's story, so Death by Origin Story. 4
  • When He Died: 10+ years ago. 4
  • Died and come back: Twice prior his Alpha 3 appearance. Both times were declared Canon Discontinuity by Word of God, but they still happened. 2
  • Average: 2.625. Dead, and unlikely to come back. As noted above, though, that hasn't stopped Capcom before.

Seth in Super Street Fighter IV, using the events of Juri's ending:

Let's see... 23.5/8 equals... 2.94. Chances have it, Seth is staying dead. Bonus points should probably be added on the grounds that the fanbase disliked him as a whole (seriously, we need some sort of constant that can be added to account for that).


Let's take a look at Luca Blight, arguably the greatest RPG villain ever.

  • Cause: Bombarded with arrows, attacked in three consecutive melee battles, bombarded with arrows again, and finally defeated in one-on-one with The Hero. No One Could Survive That!=2.
  • Genre: Well, it's Suikoden, so Anyone Can Die. 4.
  • Body: Well, his body was pretty clearly found, and was riddled with arrows to boot, but was never actually seen being disposed of in any way, so...3.5.
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Jim. 3.
  • Last Words: "I am sublime! I am the true face of evil!" 3.
  • Characterization: Archvillain. 1.
  • When: Well, seeing as Suikoden III takes place 15 years later...let's just say 4, all right?
  • Died Before: No, so 4.
  • 24.5/8=3.0625. Pretty sure he's dead, but then, who knows what Suiko 6 may hold?

    Super Mario Bros 

Fawful in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story:

  • Cause of Death: Villainous Sacrifice, if we have that - he blew himself up in a last-ditch attempt to kill the Mario Bros. 3.
  • Audience Expectation: Although Mario baddies don't often stay down (just ask Bowser), the RPGs tend to get rid of theirs at the end of each game. 3.
  • Body Found: When he explodes you see the globs of darkness that was all his reduced body consisted of by that stage. Probably comes under Chunky Salsa Rule. 4.
  • Reaction: Celebrations that he's gone, so that's He's Dead, Jim. 3.
  • Last Words: Final Speech. 3.
  • Characterisation: The recurring villain of the Mario & Luigi series. So a cross between 3 and 1 is... 2.
  • When did they die?: Closer to 2 than it is to 3. 2.
  • Died and come back?: Fawful has been shown to survive implausible circumstances that should lead to his death before (at the ending of Superstar Saga), but there's a difference between a vague shot of him falling out of Bowser's flying Castle (and remember, he has flying headgear) and actually exploding into little bits. So if we go off time alone then it's 4.

24/8=3. So chances are he's gone for good, but there's just enough leeway for Alphadream to bring back probably their most popular character in the future. Remember, he may have been blown to bits but Bowser spat all those bits out in the air, so no-one knows what happened after that.

Let's pull out all the stops here. How about the King of the Koopas himself?:

  • Cause of death: Mario defeats him every time. 2.
  • Audience expectation: This is Bowser we're talking about. 1.
  • Body found: Not usually. 2.5.
  • Reaction: He kidnapped the princess. Of course It's Personal for Mario. 2.
  • Last words: Usually, nobody talks in Mario games. N/A.
  • Characterization: The archvillain. 1.
  • When did they die?: He is defeated in every game. 1.
  • "Died" and come back?: Oh, hell yeah. 1.
  • Death value: 10.5/7 = 1.5. We have a new record.

    Tales of the Abyss 

Here's a comparison to see whether Luke or Asch made it back in the ending.


  • Cause of Death: Heroic Sacrifice - 3
  • Genre: Killed Off for Real - 3
  • Body Found? Not by anyone else, but shown on screen after death - 4
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Jim - 3
  • Characterization: Regular, almost protagonist - 1.5
  • When Did He Die?: Three years ago in-universe, otherwise inapplicable
  • Died and came Back? No - 4
  • Average: 3.08


  • Cause of Death: Heroic Sacrifice - 3
  • Genre: Killed Off for Real - 3
  • Body Found? No. - 3
  • Reaction: Characters believe he will be back - 1
  • Characterization. Protagonist. - 1
  • When Did He Die?: Three years ago in-universe, otherwise inapplicable
  • Died And Came back? No - 4
  • Average: 2.5

The results favor Luke.

    Time Crisis 

Just for kicks, Wild Dog:

  • Cause Of Death: Blows himself up in a massive explosion at the end of each game. In the latest game, Time Crisis 4, he had a ton of metal debris dropped on his head before blowing himself up. No One Could Survive That!. 2
  • Genre: Killed Off for Real for all the series' other characters. However, for Wild Dog himself, Death Is Cheap. Oh so very much. 1
  • Body Found?: The heroes never bother to look. After all, the guy just exploded. Never Found the Body. 3
  • Reaction: None (it's an arcade game, not Shakespeare). No score.
  • Characterization: Although nominally The Dragon, he's the series' only recurring character and has sort of become the series' mascot, so I'll go ahead and list him as the Arch-Villain. 1
  • When Did They Die?: The last game, and based on his rate of aging there seems to be a 5-10 year gap between each game, so I'll go with that. 4.
  • Died and Came Back?: Yes, to put it mildly. 1.
  • Average = 2. Honestly, this should be lower, but still it's no surprise Wild Dog will just keep coming back for more. Interestingly, he's visibly aging with each game, so I suppose eventually Father Time will do what countless bullets to the face and several massive explosions have failed to do so far.

    Umineko: When They Cry 


  • Cause: Honestly? Puff of Logic. Not sure it's listed, but the fight had some similarity to redemption, so I'll give it - 3
  • Body: She disappeared in a Puff of Logic; what do you think? Never Found the Body - 3
  • Reaction: It's Personal - 2
  • Genre: Kill 'Em All... over and over and over again. Does that make this Death Is Cheap? I'll give it - 1.5
  • Last Words: A thank you to Battler for having fun with her during their game. I'll call it a Final Speech, I guess - 3
  • Characterization: Archvillain for whom the main character is The Only One Allowed to Defeat You. And he didn't - 1
  • Died and came back: Once - 3
  • When: Last arc - 2
  • 17.5/8 = 2.1875 She's probably coming back in an arc or two.
    • Beatrice was resurrected in Ep 6, but she was based of Battler's memories of her, the original Beatrice III/Yasu died filled with regret.

Yasu at the end of the series:

  • Cause: Redemption Equals Death through suicide - 3
  • Body: Never Found the Body due to jumping overboard into the sea - 2
  • Reaction: Battler jumped after so let's say a 2
  • Genre: Anyone Can Die since no one but Battler, Eva and Yasu survived the massacre - 4
  • Last Words: Last Kiss, can that count as a Final Speech? In that case a 3
  • Characterization: As confusing as it is Yasu counts as a protagonist - 1
  • Died and came back While the series is built on a "Groundhog Day" Loop, this scene shows the real Rokkenjima - 4
  • When: The body wasn't found before the Distant Finale - 4
  • 23/8=2,875, probably dead but there's still a possibility that the WMG is true and that Yasu survived and changed his/her name to Ikuko Hachijō

    The Walking Dead 

Lee Everett:

  • Cause of death: Wounded and turning. 3.
  • Audience expectation: Anyone Can Die. 4.
  • Body found: Either 1 or 4, the latter when he talks Clem into making the Mercy Kill.
  • Reaction: He's Dead, Jim. 3.
  • Last words: Telling Clem what she needs to survive. 3.
  • Characterization: The protagonist. 1.
  • When did they die?: Season 1 finale. 4.
  • "Died" and come back?: Unless you count turning as revived, 4.
  • Death value: 26/8 = 3.25, or 23/8 = 2.875. He may turn up in some point or another, but since he turned, he's still technically dead for good either way.

    World of Warcraft 

Bolvar Fordragon and Saurfang Jr.

Bolvar Fordragon:

  • Cause: Dropped a few barrels filled with a deadly disease (that destroys living beings and undead alike) on him. No one survived that: 2
  • Genre: For player Characters, Death may be cheap, but when they make a cinematic showing you die, then you usually stay dead (with or without prefix): 3
  • Body: either the disease rotted his flesh away, or he got burned by the breath of the red dragons. Either way, The Body's gone: 4
  • Reaction: It's Personal for King Wrynn, and causes a major War between the Alliance and the Horde: 2
  • Characterization: Former Boss of Stormwind and major Character in Wrath of the Lich King: 2
  • When: Same year: 2
  • Died and come back: nope: 4
  • Average: 19/7 = 2.71. Will probably come back in one of the next patches (possibly as a Boss in Icecrown Citadel)

Saurfang Jr.:

  • Cause: Got his soul sucked out of him by the games trademark Artifact of Doom: 2
  • Genre: See above: 3
  • Body: See above: 4
  • Reaction: It's Personal. The Horde ain't to happy about his death.: 2
  • Characterization: Recurring Character: 3
  • When: Same year: 2
  • Dead and back: Again, no: 4
  • Average: 20/7= 2.85. A bit deader than the above, but still likely to be a future boss encounter.

Before we move along, let's establish a baseline for Azeroth specifically, using a recent prominent revival.

Illidan Stormrage:

  • Cause: Killed in battle, 2.
  • Audience Expectation: You can die in Azeroth if you aren't a Player Character, 3.
  • Body Found: We just left it on top of Black Temple, Maiev apparently locked it in a crystal. 2 for petrified/frozen.
  • Reaction: Acknowledgment that the deed is done probably counts as He's Dead Jim, 3.
  • Last Words: His Not So Different speech to Maiev counts as Famous Last Words, 3.
  • Characterization: His presence in the trailer makes him the defining villain of Burning Crusade, 1.
  • When: 5-10 years ago is the range in-universe and out, 3.
  • Died and come back: His survival at the end of Frozen Throne was unclear, gives him a 3.

Average: 20/8 = 2.5, solidly in range for returning.

Now let's look at the recent leadership changes in Horde and Alliance.


  • Cause: He was only injured until we saw how bad it was in the next cutscene, so that's Mortal Wound Reveal, 3.
  • Audience Expectation: Still Killed Off for Real, 3.
  • Body Found: Meaningful Funeral, 4.
  • Reaction: It's Personal from Sylvanas (whether or not she meant it) and the Horde (who surely mean it wholeheartedly), 2.
  • Last Words: Final Speech to the gathered leaders of the Horde, 3.
  • Characterization: Even a faction leader can only really count as a Regular, 2.
  • When: Same arc, 1.
  • Died and come back: The business in Pandaria definitely counts for one, 3.

Average: 21/8 = 2.625, only a little deader than Illidan was, and let's not forget he's friends with his race's death god.

Varian Wrynn:

  • Cause: Heroic Sacrifice, dammit, 3.
  • Audience Expectation: Still Killed Off for Real, 3.
  • Body Found: Disintegrated on-screen, 4.
  • Reaction: It's Personal from the Alliance, especially Jaina and Genn, 2.
  • Last Words: Famous Last Words for sure, 3.
  • Characterization: Faction leader is a Regular, 2.
  • When: Same arc, 1.
  • Died and come back: Vanished-presumed-dead, was half returned, then returned for real. Ought to earn him at least one, 3.

Average: 21/8 = 2.625, exactly the same as Vol'jin. And may I note, compliments to Blizz on managing to give them not just the same overall score, but the exact same spread as well.

Because a fangirl can dream...Kael'thas Sunstrider:

  • Cause: Killed in battle, 2.
  • Audience expectation: Killed Off for Real, 3.
  • Body Found: Beheaded for a quest turn-in in his final appearance, and Lor'themar's leader short story notes that he was buried on Quel'danas, 4.
  • Reaction: He's Dead Jim, 3.
  • Last Words: A rather unhinged Final Speech, if we're generous, 3.
  • Characterization: Recurring at best, 3.
  • When: Same as Illidan, 5-10 years ago, 3.
  • Died and come back: Memetically so, 3.

Average: 24/8 = 3 exactly. Never say never, but he's probably out for good.


Example of: