Complete Monster Proposal Thread

[Deleted this myself, it's way too long and I did not word it clearly enough.]

Edited by carduinal-cyn on Mar 19th 2023 at 8:38:44 AM

My guy, over 3,000 words?

My pet guinea pig isn’t dead yet, but she’s on the verge of dying unfortunately.

Edited by Fireball246 on Mar 19th 2023 at 7:21:59 AM

Also, I’m, like… 90% sure we’re only supposed to look at English localizations? I feel like that was mentioned the first time he came up.

Sorry to hear that, Fireball.

Sorry to hear about you pet guinea pig Fireball. That must be hard

It's an all of nothing kind of thing, you can refer to specific dubs if you want to propose that dub's version of a character, but if you do you have to exclusively use that version, no mixing or matching the English and Japanese versions

Yeah, if you wanna exclusively use one localization, no reason why not.

No to Fecto. Now, back to Training Day, the third episode, "Trigger Time" brings a human trafficking villain. Lighty will cover the present-day subject but the crime proves to hit home for Frank's underling/adoptive daughter Rebecca Lee, having been rescued from a similar fate decades ago...

Who is Brokenclaw? What did he do?

A crime boss with no name and a Red Right Hand in the form of a blind eye and hooked hand, "Brokenclaw" was a human trafficker active in 1996, the nameless crime boss once took a seven-year-old girl to sell into sexual slavery. Keeping his captive in a crate, Brokenclaw silently enjoyed sadistically tormenting her with a wicked grin and possible licentious intent of his own. Planning to sell the girl who would become Rebecca Lee to become "somebody's play thing, organs sold on the black market."

Unfortunately he attracted the attention of the then-vigilante Frank Rouke, who took it upon himself to dispatch his own brand of justice upon the wicked. Pulling a gun when Frank busts into his lair, Brokenclaw is shot dead in the ensuing firefight, Rebecca saved but haunted for decades later by his abuses and sick plans for her.

Mitigating factors?

The guy doesn't speak in the flashbacks he's shown in but he's a clear sadist with his creepy grin and enjoyment of scaring Rebecca before he sells her (or gets to his own plot to abuse her).

Heinousness?

Koslov gets more focus as the present day trafficker but we know Brokenclaw was a gangster who made his money through the trade and while we only see Rebecca in captivity, he gets the uniqueness of planning to have a seven-year-old raped and harvested for organs.

Verdict?

Keeper.

I specifically proposed the Japanese version of Fecto Elfilis... I only mention the English version in the EP for comparison, since I don't think it counts.

I can easily trim it down. Sorry everyone, I'm a bit new at this. Should I just delete it and move on?

And a to Brokenclaw. Seven years old. Gross.

Edited by carduinal-cyn on Mar 19th 2023 at 8:24:02 AM

to Brokenclaw

To Brokenclaw

Sorry to hear that Fireball

Brokenclaw

Yes to "Brokenclaw".

Heads-up on the EP I just did: I self-thumped it. It's way too long and confusing, so I'm going to tinker with it in my drafts until it's presentable. No votes for Japanese Fecto please.

Edited by carduinal-cyn on Mar 19th 2023 at 8:40:00 AM

To Brokenclaw

Alright. So my commander red proposal was a flop. I'll just wait three days before I try my next one. Allow for a cooldown.

Anyway, Yes to Brokenclaw.

• Avatar: The Last Airbender
• Octopath Traveler
• Chilling Adventures Presents...Betty: The Final Girl's "Be Mine Or Die": The unnamed Serial Killer has stalked and murdered 9 girls throughout Riverdale in a variety of ways, from poisoning them to burning them alive. Sending a message to his latest target, Brigitte Reilly, the killer breaks into her home when she's alone and hunts her down. Upon catching Brigitte, the killer ties her to a chair, ecstatic to torture Brigitte to death with a knife in order to "make her his Valentine".
• Silence: Lyrengen is a charismatic yet amoral mercenary whose ambition is to rule a kingdom through fear. After accidentally leading the orc Yuudorm and his band into an ambush, Lyrengen betrays the company and allows a lord to condemn Yuudorm's son and his two teenage grandsons to be thrown down a well filled with leeches before sealing the entrance of the dungeon to cover his betrayal. Taking over the cult of the flayers, Lyrengen regularly conducts sacrifices on his own members by flaying them alive and sentencing enemies and trespassers alike to the same fate. Over 20 years, his domain is littered with hundreds of flayed bodies on display. Lyrengen also flays a minion just for contesting an order and threatens his dragon Tafleur with the same execution. When Yuudorm and his army seeks revenge, Lyrengen sends slaves just to slow them down. Lyrengen then abducts and tortures the goblin Freil for information and threatens to throw him off the fortress wall to stop his friend Yuudorm. When the orc falls into his clutches, Lyrengen gleefully reveals in detail how he caused his family's agonizing death.
• Gerrith Barrington is a rapacious Grand Duke who believes that anything he doesn't possess is better off eliminated. Barrington had the village of siblings Marach and Rapha butchered, including their parents, so he could take the children in as his personal weapons and assassins. Using an entire string of "charitable" orphanages to further find children he can indoctrinate into his loyal agents, Barrington's true vileness comes from the fact that he is a pedophilic rapist who has been molesting Rapha—and potentially many other children—for years. Barrington hopes to eventually spawn a new child from Rapha herself for him to turn his lusts upon, and when the girl and her brother finally stand up to him, Barrington murders Marach and tries to once again assert his dominance over Rapha.
• Godzilla vs. The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: Rita Repulsa starts the comic off by massacring a group of monks guarding the timestream. Loosed into the multiverse, Rita happens upon Godzilla's world and allies with the Xilien aliens to help them conquer it with monsters. Realizing the potential they bring, Rita plots to seize control of the monsters and unleash them on the multiverse to destroy and conquer it. Pushed to the wall, she summons King Ghidorah to destroy Godzilla, the Rangers, and the world before trying to flee.
• Season 1: Cluny the Scourge adapts all the nastiest parts of his book counterpart's villainy and goes beyond that. A searat warlord with a propensity for abusing his own men, Cluny is established to have massacred the hero Matthias's peasant village in the past, attempting to personally slaughter the young mouse. In the present, Cluny tries every scheme he can to take over Redwall Abbey, from attempting to starve everybeast within to death and having an unfortunate mouse who tries to deliver food to the abbey executed, to taking various hostages and trying to see them all slaughtered to goad the heroes—even managing to capture Cornflower and torturing her for her impudence against him. Setting up his own traitorous minion to die in an assassination attempt against him and regularly imploring the rest of his band to slaughter innocents with aplomb, Cluny finally attempts to take over Redwall by ordering the massacre of everybeast within.
• The Eternal Crown: Willow Schnee, far crueler than in canon, is a vicious, egotistical tyrant who uses her privilege to rule over Mistral with an iron fist. Fanatically dedicated to Salem, Willow is an abusive mother to her three children and attacks her subordinates for such minor slights as looking at her. Tasked with bringing Ozma in alive after his latest reincarnation in Jaune Arc's body, Willow is more than willing to raze Mistral if it leads to his capture. Following her latest failure to capture Jaune, Willow orders the deaths of one thousand Mistralians for every hour he refuses her demands of surrender, fully intent on carrying out this genocide even after he complies. So vile that her actions turn her children against her, she has her daughter Weiss imprisoned to be executed on the charge of blasphemy, and several Chosen, clergymen, and palace staff killed simply for disagreeing with her twisted worldview.
• Empress Lionstone XIV, aka the "Iron Bitch", is the quintessence of every Evil Overlord of every Evil Empire rolled into one beautiful, soulless package. Known for her wicked and lethal sense of humor, Lionstone won't just kill someone for fun; she'll think up an entertaining—to her—way to go about it. Lionstone is attended by handmaiden bodyguards culled from the ranks of rebels and malcontents because she finds it amusing to turn those into her loyal servants, has their tongues cut out, replaces their eyes and ears with more controllable cybernetics, and has them mindwiped and reconditioned into absolutely loyal attendants and bodyguards. Projects under Lionstone's reign range from the annihilation of the planet Virimonde for daring to engage in democracy, and threatening the same for others; to trying to yoke the ridiculously lethal Grendels into shock troops; to Wormboy Hell, an oubliette where rebel espers are kept imprisoned in states of constant mental violation and agony.
• Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio: The Podestà is the film's Fascist equivalent to the Coachman. A firm dedicant of Mussolini, the Podestà runs a military camp where children—including his own emotionally-abused son Candlewick, whom the Podestà despises for his weakness—are trained to become unthinking, unfeeling Child Soldiers, hoping to squeeze all their humanity out until nothing is left but the urge to kill and die for Fascist Italy. When he learns Pinocchio is immortal, the Podestà tries to make an immortal child soldier out of him as well, and when Candlewick and Pinocchio befriend each other during an exercise, the Podestà coldly orders Candlewick to shoot Pinocchio anyway. Although indicated to have Hidden Depths at first, the Podestà is devoted to Fascism at the expense of everything else, promptly disowning Candlewick when the boy refuses to fall in line.
• The Riddler, aka Edward Nigma, born Edward Nashton, is a narcissist determined to prove his superior intellect no matter how many people must die. First appearing as Enigma, he collects blackmail material on Gotham City officials, intending to release it to cause widespread death and destruction. When Batman interferes, Enigma christens himself the Riddler and begins placing civilians in torture rooms that eventually kill them if they don't outsmart him. In the lead-up to the Joker's breakout from Arkham, Riddler tricks an unsuspecting ArkhamCare.com user into weakening the Asylum's security, directly leading to Joker murdering over 100 people; he then kills several people to set himself up in Arkham City, captures everyone in the church to place in his traps, and puts anyone else in bombs that blow up if they stop walking. To fill the power vacuum after Joker's death, Riddler begins a master plan that leads to Mr. Freeze almost killing thousands of people; Mad Hatter taking dozens as mind-controlled slaves; Vicki Vale's cameraman Phil Chester being dismembered; and Robin being locked in a Mechanical Guardian that Riddler controls as it massacres everyone it comes across on its way to Gotham's most populated areas. Even at his most pathetic during Scarecrow's attack, Riddler places a bomb around Catwoman's neck and several inside the brains of thugs. An ego-driven narcissist who can't let anyone else win, Riddler kills countless people and threatens even more in the name of protecting his fragile ego and outsmarting Batman by any means necessary.
• The Glitched Attraction: William Afton was a Serial Killer of children responsible for the tragedies that struck the Fazbear Franchise. Returning decades later, Afton corrupted Vanessa into his murderous apprentice "Vanny" and set up an operation in the Fazbear Attraction. Afton and Vanny release a virus into the attraction to make the animatronics kill those who entered. They would lure someone inside, have the machines kill them to extract their remnant, or Afton would have Vanny capture and vivisect them personally. Then they would use their victim's phone to lure the next victim inside. Every time someone's remnant was injected into Afton, their mind would be trapped in his soul for as long as he lives.
• What If Optimus Prime Survived The '86 Movie? two-part series, by TJ Omega: Starscream is a self-serving coward only concerned about his own personal gain. Taking the position of leader of the Decepticons after Megatron's arrest, Starscream has his injured soldiers ejected into space and gladly allies with Unicron to destroy the Autobot Matrix due to the promise of great power. Now reformatted as Novascream, the new Decepticon leader attacks Autobot City and chases the Autobots to the planet Junkion where he badly injures Optimus Prime and kills Megatron. Novascream tries to turn Unicron into his slave with the Matrix, and when this backfires chickens out of the battle to save his home planet and refuses to hand the Matrix over to the Autobots lest he risk his position as the herald of the most powerful being in the universe. After Unicron's destruction, Novascream begins his plan to steal resources to revive Unicron as a weapon and allies with the Quintessons to obtain the Decepticon Matrix needed to control him. Novascream leads attacks on Junkion and Cybertron, personally destroying the former planet, and later banishes Blitzwing for standing up to him.
• Uprising (link): Nicky Cavella is a crime boss who kidnaps women and children to be raped and tortured to death before stuffing their bodies with drugs to sell on the Black Market. Cavella threatens his men to do his work or their families will die if they fail to obey.
• Prey (Sensation Studios):
  • Starved is Doctor Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik after having consumed a cooked piggy. After becoming obsessed with the taste, he started building robots to hunt down the animals to cook and eat them, hunting down every animal on Little Planet, destroying any robots that don't meet his expectations, and even having his second Furnace kill Tails and Amy.
  • The second Furnace that Starved built kills Tails and Amy the minute he is activated. After that, he attempts to catch Sonic to please Starved, but after getting a vision of Starved killing him for failing, he Furnace to just kill Starved, take over his robot army, and then bring Little Planet out of orbit to suffocate all its inhabitants, all in an effort to increase his own power.
• The Leapfrogged Console Wars's Espers and Madness (Final Fantasy VI & Final Fantasy VII): Kefka Palazzo is just as evil as he was in the game he debuted in. After seemingly having been defeated by the Returners at the top of his tower, Kefka is Brought Down to Badass in the ruins of Midgar. Joining Yuffie while appearing to be friendly, Kefka helps the FFVII party turn the rampaging Espers into magicite. Eventually, Kefka betrays the party, taking the Magicite for himself and using his newly-reacquired God of Magic form to kill Tifa in a Hopeless Boss Fight. Having given himself a floating castle to rule as a god, Kefka unleashes extremely powerful attacks against Cloud's party and Terra in one of the hardest Superboss fights in the franchise. Kefka gets the last laugh, and uses his dying words to taunt Cloud about a malevolent presence inside the Lifestream.
• Pazuzu is an ancient demon and the ultimate source of everything wrong across multiple continuities. Seeking revenge against Father Lankester Merrin for stopping its killing sprees in the prequels, in the original film Pazuzu possesses the young girl Regan MacNeil and causes her to go into violent body spasms, as well as having her sexually and violently lash out at others. Intending to stay in her "until she rots and lies stinking in the Earth", Pazuzu causes Merrin to suffer a fatal heart attack, before it takes control of Father Karras in an attempt to kill Regan, as she was of no longer any use. After being defeated by Karras, Pazuzu takes the soul of the executed Gemini Killer and transfers it into Karras's body to get petty revenge, thus setting off the Gemini Killer's further killing spree.
• Luther: The Fallen Sun: David Robey is a self-proclaimed sadist and psychopath with designs to create a legendary nightmare around his name. A monster who has raped, tortured, and killed dozens of people over the years and discarded their bodies in a frozen lake, Robey crippled and horribly burned his wife so he could keep her captive and forced to listen as he tells her of his crimes. Robey introduces himself to Luther by kidnapping and torturing 8 teenagers to death, letting the families find the corpses, and then sending recordings of the teens' final moments to their parents. Later using blackmail material to force multiple people to commit suicide in the middle of a crowded street and cause even more deaths through car crashes, Robey uses his blackmail-gathering ability to force other crimes be committed, notably manipulating a man into raping another for Robey's glee. Robey's final plan is to a red room where dozens of men, women, and children will be tortured to death in front of a live online audience, and to ensure his plans work out, Robey kidnaps Odette's daughter and threatens to rape and kill her lest Odette and Luther torture one another. When he is beaten, Robey tries to burn Odette, her daughter, and his own loyal minion to death to cover his tracks.
• Rise of the Damned prequel: Astaroth, aka Otis Clairborne, is the sadistic right hand to Satan himself. Desiring a dominion of his own, Astaroth found a weak spot in the barrier of Hell and painfully killed and possessed a miner. Astaroth recruits numerous Deados and takes over a nearby town. Having dozens of people captured and forced to work in the caves. Astaroth intends to break through the weak spot and unleash the spirits of Hell to kill and possess all of humanity, turning the Earth into a 10th circle of Hell he could rule. Astaroth kills one of the Deados to ensure the others' loyalty, and his mining of the weak spot releases Deadly Gas that endangers those left in town, including children. Capturing Roy Pulsipher and Jeanna, Astaroth plans to throw them in the gateway and let them burn for all eternity.
• Time Under Fire (1997): Charles Braddock is an ambitious politician who rules the world in the Bad Future the heroes attempt to prevent. As a rising star, Braddock murdered the president to seize control and started a war with Iraq after blaming foreign extremists. After much bloodshed, it was discovered that Braddock was the true mastermind and resorted to nuclear Armageddon to keep his power. As a wizened tyrant in the future, Braddock keeps control with murder and cruelty, intending to create cyborg soldiers to wipe out all resistance. Discovering heroic Alan Deakins, father of the revolutionary leader John, Braddock simply decides to kill him so the resistance will never come to pass.
• Charlie Small: The Puppet Master's Prison, by Nick Ward: The Puppet Master is a sinister and greedy puppeteer who lures children away from their homes and turns them into puppets to use in his shows. Cruelly forcing the children's families to attend these shows, the Puppet Master forces the children to steal for him, uncaring of what may befall them. Subjecting Charlie himself to the same fate as the other children, the Puppet Master gloats to their faces about how they're all now at his beck and call and will remain that way for the rest of their lives.
• Ghostlight: Captain Nicholas Viker is a wicked ghost who seeks to make himself supreme over both the living and the dead. A bloodthirsty soldier in life who was killed after murdering his general, Viker spends decades devouring other ghosts to grow in strength so as to harm the living, his reign of terror only ended by the efforts of Keeper Strand and his daughter Rebecca, though not before Viker murdered them and devoured the former's ghost. Reemerging in the present, Viker sets about devouring any ghosts he comes across, including that of a 4-year-old girl, while seeking the power of the ghostlight, even threatening to devour Gabe's father to force him to hand it over, following through on his threat when it fails. Upon acquiring the ghostlight, Viker corrupts it and uses the "ghastlight"'s power to amass an army of malevolent ghosts, seeking to kill the living and turn the world into his dominion of the dead.
• The Red Necklace & The Silver Blade: Count--later Citizen--Kalliovski is a serial-killing Loan Shark in the time of The French Revolution. A blackmailer and consummate destroyer-of-lives who always carries a book full of the names of those he keeps under his crushing thumb, Kalliovski is only too gleeful to murder those who don't pay their debts or simply get in his way, ranging from a magician who recognizes him from before his days as nobility, to Romani families he hunts for sport, to the mother of the novel's heroine Sido de Villeduval. Kalliovski deigns to make the underage Sido his bride as well, gloating how he'll have her in his bed whether she wants it or not. Kalliovski also creates magical automata out of the bodies of his victims, a pastime expanded upon in The Silver Blade. Whether from those he's sent to the guillotine or killed with his own hands, Kalliovski seeks to create a being "without the inconvenience of a soul" from these automata; his most prized of them are the Seven Sisters Macabre, each a woman he's murdered and preserved in beautiful undeath. Even love cannot dampen Kalliosvki's evil; when he encounters a woman who "threatened the perfect void of his being", Kalliovski murders her and promptly attempts to kill the child he bore with her as well.
• Shotgun Nun Vol. 2: The Wrath of God:
  • Nathan "Nate" Robinson is the leader of a Human Trafficking ring. After a botched shipment results in him losing most of his "product," Nate quickly auctions off the five survivors to his customers to be sex slaves, including the 12-year-old Sophia. When Nate finds out Sister Eloise murdered one of his customers and rescued Sophia, Nate repeatedly sends his thugs to try and murder her; he succeeds in kidnapping Sophia and has Eloise captured and nearly gang-raped. When Nate encounters Eloise again as she tries to rescue Sophia, Nate has Eloise knocked unconscious and tied to a chair. He waits until Eloise wakes up before gloating that he's going to torture her to death and sell Sophia off again, fulfilling his promise when he cuts off five of Eloise's fingers and right hand.
  • Dr. Thomas Edwards is one of Nate's best customers. A pediatrician by day, Nate secretly makes illegitimate money buying children from Nate's auctions and having them raped and killed in snuff films he produces and sells on the Black Market. After purchasing Sophia, Edwards takes her to his mansion with the intent to have her raped and butchered for one of his videos.
• "Safe Space": Evan Bosch, a successful dance coordinator for the Toronto Ballet Consortium, is behind closed doors a vicious Control Freak, who subjects girls as young as 14 to brutal training regimes that push them to the brink. Evan only cares about moulding his students into the living embodiments of his ideas, and even worse, is a manipulative sexual predator who regularly grooms his students, taking advantage of their naivety to rape them multiple times. Even when caught by two of his former victims, after attempting to force them to give him a false alibi for raping his latest victim, Evan refuses to accept any blame for his crimes, cruelly mocking their suffering and taking satisfaction in depriving them of closure.
• The Hitchhiker's "The Miracle of Alice Ames": Brother Charles lures in young homeless girls to preach them the values of God's love, encouraging them to spread it. Actually manipulating the girls into prostituting themselves to abusive men for money, Charles almost evicts the titular Alice Ames from his church for getting mysterious wounds on her hands and feet. Using Alice as his meal ticket to earn more money and prostitutes, Charles grows to value Alice as his own Sex Slave, having his way with her behind the scenes.
• Hwang Kyung-il was bullied in high school by a rumor about his mother's affair. After seeing the truth, Hwang gains a hatred for women, before murdering his mother by torching her home, ruining the lives of the Eun-byul family. Hwang makes films of him raping women on his site, resulting in some of his victims committing suicide. Hwang tries to rape Park Eun-byul out of petty revenge before trying to kill Kang, Jin-hyuk, and Eun-byul in the school building when they try to find him before being caught for his crimes.
• A New World & Spider-Man 1602: Master Norman Osborne, leading citizen of the colony of Roanoke, is obsessed with finding the source of the strange power disturbing the New World and claiming it for himself. Believing that the Indians of Roanoke are hiding it, Osborne creates tension between the colonists and the Indians, even attacking one of the colonists and framing it as an Indian attack. Leading a mob, Osborne has his men burn down the Indian village before later convincing General Ross and his men to march on the Indians. After a massacre is narrowly prevented, Osborne pretends to relent before attempting to wipe out the Indians by infecting them with smallpox out of sheer spite and hatred. When Peter Parquah's love interest Virginia Dare attempts to go to her father, Osborne kills her. Eventually being turned into a Witchbreed, a "reborn" Osborne attempts to kill not only Parquah, but the boy's second love as well, and has no loyalty for his own allies who risk getting caught in the crossfires.
• Starset's "SYMBIOTIC": Melvin is a slob who follows the influencer Chaz through a futuristic technology. Hacking into the device and taking control of Chaz's body, Melvyn strangles Chaz's girlfriend, butchers her body, and guns down party guests, all while Chaz's consciousness is helplessly watching. Melvin eventually returns to his own body, leaving the distressed influencer in the middle of the carnage.
• "FAZBEAR FAMILY", "BACK TOGETHER", "A PIZZA THE ACTION": William Afton is an egomaniacal sadist who once used the Fazbear food chain to murder several children, luring his victims to the safe room and killing them. Eventually, Afton would design the Funtime animatronics and becomes the monsterous Springtrap. Together, he and the Funtimes would murder children at a new Fazbear Location while trying to kill the manager. After being burnt to death, Afton would return as Glitchtrap within a video game, murdering or body-jacking those who played it. Afton would then take over the Pizzaplex Mall, turning the Glamrocks into murderers. At one point, Afton dispatches Glamrock Freddy in front of the child Gregory before taking over Freddy's body to attack him.
• The Adventures of Little Carp: The Mage Snake was once a servant of the Dragon King. After the Dragon King sacrificed himself to stop the Great Volcano, the Mage Snake stole his horn to get his powers, while imprisoning, starving, and torturing for 30 years the turtle who guarded it. The Mage Snake spreads his tyranny across the water world, enslaving and killing many. The Mage Snake meets Popo and discovers that thornballs provide a remedy for his itching problem, prompting Snake to enslave Popo's village and turn Popo's grandmother into a bubble. Snake finds out that gathering five dragon scales could turn him into a real dragon and starts pursuing Popo and his friends across the world, forcing Old Turtle to sacrifice himself. In his pursuit, the Mage Snake frequently attempts mass murder; turns the friendly Chef Octopus into a giant beast; has a young girl's parents turned into coral; and eats his own cousin alive after the latter fails him. After many defeats and failures to acquire the dragon scales, Snake activates the Great Volcano to destroy the world out of spite.
• PseudoPod:
  • "Emperor All": John, "Emperor" of the nameless city, discovers one day he has nearly unlimited control of the land. Making himself its exalted ruler, John abuses those he dislikes and forces women into bed while making his wife Naomi simply be okay with everything he does. Realizing he has a rival with the same ability, John dedicates himself to a vicious years-long war, conscripting civilians and killing countless innocents while ruining the city. Keeping his forces as breeding stock and soldiers, John can only dream of further conquest and empire, even ripping away Naomi's capacity for worry when she tries to leave him.
  • "Of All the Things the Girls Had Ever Said": Richard is a Serial Killer living out in the middle of nowhere. With a fetish for "time of the month", Richard regularly abducts young women to hold them until their period whereupon he rapes, tortures, and murders them after holding them captive and psychologically abusing them. Burying many such women on his property, Richard attempts to break his latest victim Fay, before trying to murder her when he believes her time has come.
• Massacre lives up to his name in his sheer love for slaughter. He's introduced killing an entire ship of superpowered beings and mocking the Sole Survivor Auron over his teammates' deaths, after which Massacre wipes out the entire population of a small planetoid. Arriving on Earth with a desire to beat Superman, Massacre makes his way across the planet while killing anyone he has to ask for directions and threatening entire towns with destruction. After faking care for his Skimmer so as to escape from Superman, only to chunk the half-dead being into the vacuum of space, Massacre is brought before the Tribunal and has the full breadth of his crimes laid out: he has killed tens of thousands of people across hundreds of worlds simply because he could, and his only recourse when confronted with the families of his many victims is to laugh at them and express desire to kill them all, too.
• First & second games: Fortitudo, Bringer of Flame, the Cardinal Virtue of Fortitude, is one of the top four members of Auditito who, despite being a minion, stands out for his despicable crimes. Seeking to awaken Jubileus, the Creator, in order to allow Auditito to claim all of reality and rule over the universe, Fortitudo manipulated Father Balder into orchestrating the Witch Hunts, wiping out the Umbra Witches and Lumen Sages so that nobody can stand in their way of claiming the Eyes of the World needed for Jubileus's awakening, even participating in the Witch Hunts himself.
• Hellforces:
  • Baphomet is a demon who swore loyalty to Lucifer and began conquering worlds for Hell. Creating Baphomet and Co. Corporation and deciding to conquer Earth, Baphomet had the Satanic cult New Dawn capture countless people and rip the souls out of their bodies, so that his demons can possess them and bring chaos and destruction upon humanity. Fully intending to wipe out humanity, Baphomet mocked Steven Geist's desire to avenge the death of his ex-girlfriend by calling her a "drug-addicted whore".
  • Alex Hacksley is the leader of the New Dawn, who gleefully assists his demonic master by organizing the capture of many people, so that his cult can rip their souls out of their bodies and let "the empty vessels" be possessed by the demons. Unleashing the possessed bodies onto the streets, ensuring countless deaths, Alex also kidnaps people so that he could perform fatal experiments on them. Forcing Steven Geist to kill his possessed ex-girlfriend, Alex was determined to assist the demons in wiping out humanity.
• The Three Wise Men are a group of powerful old wizards consisting of Urzur, Beldor, and Skuldi. Servants of the previous King of Titania, they were tasked with researching about the Beast of Darkova, which lead them to learn about the prophecy about Armageddon, which told about how the ones who survived it would supposedly rise unto power. To this end, to bring about Armageddon, the Three Wise Men would, among other actions, control the benevolent dragon Belial into devouring hundreds; manipulate the Kingdoms into wars against each other; and strike deals with many other characters in order to get what they want, often backstabbing them when their deal was over. Beldor would eventually play a key role when Armageddon happened, awakening the beastly King Gallon from the Underworld, and taking control of Ingway, who transformed into the Beast of Darkova shortly after.
• A Plague Tale duology (Innocence & Requiem): In a series where plagues and rats run rampant, these individuals are far worse.
  • The Prima Macula is a sapient monstrosity responsible for the plagues, man-eating rats, and other woes occurring throughout history. The Macula would manifest itself inside children, causing them to become ill, while mentally torturing them into giving themselves over to its will, using them as vessels to spread its influence and causing suffering and deaths by the millions. Basilius was the first recorded victim of the Macula's hold, whose influence spread throughout the Byzantine Empire, causing the Justinian Plague. The Macula manifested itself again inside Hugo de Rune in the 14th century, kick-starting The Black Death in which illness and death follow Hugo, leading to the destruction of Arles. Luring Hugo to the island La Cuna, the Macula hopes to drive Hugo to despair to fully take control of his body, eventually succeeding. Its first action is to destroy Marseille, before spreading its influence over the Earth to consume all life. Tens of millions have already died by the time Amicia and Lucas kill Hugo to stop the Macula, whereupon the Macula latches onto an infant in the modern era, hoping to complete its cataclysmic rampage.
  • Innocence:
    • Vitalis Benevent is the Grand Inquisitor with the intent of acquiring the Macula to conquer the world. Believing himself as almighty, Vitalis had his forces hunt Hugo de Rune to acquire his blood and perfect it, to acquire the power of the plague and to prolong his own life. To that end, he had many people killed and tortured, including Rodric's father after they became of no more use to him, with Beatrice de Rune kept and tortured to gain her knowledge of the Macula. Once he managed to get the Macula after sacrificing legions of his own men, Vitalis tried to tie up all loose ends by corrupting Hugo to become his follower and get him to kill Amicia. When Amicia and Hugo confront Vitalis into the headquarters of the Inquisition to stop him, Vitalis revealed that he managed to breed numerous rats under his own control and intend to use it take over all of Europe, believing he himself is humanity's savior, sacrificing an entire congregation to his powers. Power-hungry and ruthless, Vitalis plunged the world to a dark era of the plague to reach absolute power.
    • Sir Nicholas is a knight who butchered countless people in the mission given to him by Vitalis. In charge of capturing Hugo de Rune, Nicholas led the massacre of the de Rune household, killing even the helpless servants and torturing Beatrice, the matriarch of the de Rune family. When the plague began to rise, Nicholas headed the Inquisition to kill countless villagers, even those who weren't infected, and abandoned many of his own men to the mercy of the plague, silently enjoying the slaughter. Once the Inquisition was able to grab hold of Hugo, Nicholas had his own men sacrificed to overtax Hugo's power to keep him in check and strengthen Vitalis's own power. With Hugo at his side, he accompanies him to attack Château d'Ombrage and tries to coerce him to murder Amicia with his rats. When Hugo resisted, Nicholas takes a hands-on approach, killing Arthur before trying to kill Amicia personally.
  • Requiem: Milo is a vicious slaver who learns about the Child of Embers while working for Emilie de Arles. Cutting ties with Emilie, Milo seeks to summon the Child of Embers himself by sacrificing hundreds of his slaves, including children, by bleeding them to death, while personally killing any slave that attempts to escape. When one of his men comments on the waste of human life, Milo brutally kills him before abandoning the rest to fend off the hordes of rats. Believing Hugo to be the Child of Embers, Milo attempts to manipulate Hugo into allying with him, planning to use the boy’s powers to overthrow Emilie, her husband, and conquer all he sees.
• Wing Commander: The Kilrathi Saga: Prince Thrakhath nar Kiranka is the crown prince and the most vicious of all the Kilrathi commanders. Ruthless from his youth, Thrakhath demanded the execution of a minister who showed slight hesitation at the Terran invasion and distinguished himself with titanic bloodshed across the galaxy. As the Kilrathi commander-in-chief and the Emperor's heir, Thrakhath assumes more responsibility with his grandfather's infirmity, masterminding attacks across numerous systems with the intent to exterminate humanity if they will not be enslaved. After capturing a squad of Terran fighters, Thrakhath summarily has them executed on the spot save for the lover of the heroic Colonel Christopher "Maverick" Blair, Jeannette "Angel" Devereaux, whom Thrakhath personally murders with his own claws and saves the video to later taunt Blair with.
• 5 Minute Dating (link): Slash at first looks like a sympathetic deformed man wanting to find someone who would love him, but is in reality a cannibal who has killed and eaten many victims before. During a speed-dating event, Slash comes across a girl named Sarah also suffering from deformation. Since Sarah is insecure because of that, Slash reassures her and manages to deceive her to have dinner with him, only to eat her, adding her to his victim list.
• Ninjago:
  • The Overlord, also known as the Golden Master and the Crystal King, is the Big Bad of the series and the greatest primordial evil to haunt Ninjago, who endlessly warred with the First Spinjitzu Master before being banished. Desiring revenge, the Overlord infected a snake with his evil and had it bite the young son of his nemesis, making him responsible for all the death and destruction caused by the Great Devourer and Lord Garmadon. Resurfacing in the present, the Overlord manipulates Garmadon into bombarding the world with Dark Matter missiles to tip the balance between good and evil, before possessing him to personally convert all of Ninjago into his corrupted slaves. Returning as a Computer Virus, the Digital Overlord creates the Nindroid army to steal Lloyd's Golden Power and subjugate all life under his apocalyptic might. Reemerging once again to turn Harumi into his latest puppet, the Overlord mines Vengestone to create warriors from the material and begin his conquest anew, setting out to corrupt the power of Creation itself and crystallize the people of Ninjago into his zombified slaves. Endlessly desiring to upset the balance and overrun the realm with his nightmarish rule, the Overlord will always return to complete his vicious purpose, using and exploiting whoever he can in order to reduce existence to black nothing.
  • Season 9 (Hunted): The Iron Baron is the master of the Dragon Hunters, the current inhabitants of the Realm of Oni and Dragons. Leading an expedition into the Oni Lands years ago only to find the demons mysteriously gone, the Baron killed everyone in his party to keep this a secret, using the fear of the Oni to keep his followers in line. The Baron leads the hunters in subjugating the dragons, cruelly hunting and enslaving the sapient creatures for food, work, or entertainment in death matches, and threatens death to any who disobey him. When the Ninja are stranded in the realm, the Baron tries to use them to capture dragons, before relentlessly pursuing them and Faith for daring to betray him. Ultimately aiming to claim the Dragon Armor of the First Spinjitzu Master, the Baron intends to use it to control the Firstbourne, the "mother of all dragons" whose children he has been slaughtering for years, to secure his rule for all time.
  • Season 10 (March of the Oni): The Omega is the leader of a race of beings who live for destruction known as the Oni. The Omega desires to reverse Creation itself and has plans to transform the Sixteen Realms into lifeless wastes. Releasing his demonic soldiers upon Ninjago City, the Omega petrifies the citizens into statues, intending to expand his shadows across the entire world to force this fate on every living thing. Facing off against Lord Garmadon, the Omega mocks his insecurities about his struggles with good and evil, dismissing him for not embracing destruction as a "true" Oni.
  • Season 11 (Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu—The Ice Chapter): General Vex, "The Formless", is a formling from the Never-Realm who lacked his people's shapeshifting gift. Leaving in resentment yet blaming his tribe for his "exile", Vex encountered a stranded Zane and wiped his memory, transforming him into the Ice Emperor and having him freeze his tribe. Forcing the noble King Grimfax into their service on pain of death, Vex manipulated the Ice Emperor into a tyrannical reign of the Never-Realm for over six decades, wiping out all but one of the yetis; freezing resources in an endless winter; and sending Grimfax to kill the people of the Great Lake, leading to the Hearth Fire being extinguished and the villagers, including many children, almost freezing to death. Petty and vindictive, Vex even attempts to kill Zane after he regains his memories in a final act of spite.
  • Season 13 (Master of the Mountain) & Season 15 (Crystalized): The Skull Sorcerer, in truth King Vangelis, and Hazza D'ur are the titular tyrants of Shintaro Mountain. The king of the Ivory City and an ancient necromancer whose soul was bound to his skull, respectively, the two united when Vangelis sought a way to ensure his prosperity. Together, the two raised an undead army and relentlessly hunted down the Geckles and Munce tribes living beneath the mountain, enslaving them to mine Vengestone for the Overlord. When the two tribes begin to unite against Vangelis, Hazza D'ur resurrects the vicious dragon Grief-Bringer, threatening to slaughter them all unless the Ninja surrender and re-enslaving the tribes even after they accept the offer. Vangelis even rejects his own daughter when she attempts to stop his cruel reign, allowing her to fall down the same pit he implicitly used to kill several of his own soldiers. After Hazza D'ur is destroyed, Vangelis is recruited into the Council of the Crystal King and directly aids the Overlord in ravaging the realm, using the army created from his Vengestone to turn all of Ninjago into crystallized zombies.
  • Season 14 (Seabound): Prince Kalmaar is the cruel prince of Merlopia who wishes to wage war on the surface and conquer it with the evil snake deity, Wojira, uncaring to the safety of his own people so long as he can complete his genocide. To this end, Kalmaar abuses his servants so as to find a way to awaken Wojira with a special amulet, and sinks any ships he comes across to satisfy his unbridled hatred for the surface dwellers. When the Ninja get involved in his plot he murders his father, King Trimaar, framing the Ninja for it and only keeping his adoptive brother, Benthomaar, alive out of pragmatism. When Kalmaar, now king, finally awakens Wojira, he takes control of it and uses its power to create a tsunami to flood Ninjago City, then has his soldiers attack to kill any survivors; when Bentho aids the Ninja in fighting him, Kalmaar attempts to kill him personally while taunting him about his adopted status, remarking that their father should've left him to die when they met him.

to King Byo-gen. Since Venus said that Daruizen could count, does that mean he's a keeper, too?

Edited by Necrowonomicon on Mar 19th 2023 at 9:20:49 AM

I think we need a proper proposal first

Alrighty then.

Yeah.

Agreed, we don't want just speculation that they may count, it'll require a post encompassing all they do after the material's been consumed in full.

to Brokenclaw.

to Red.

Sorry for your pet, Fireball.

Keep in mind if Daruizen does count it’d be because of the horror of his personal crimes. King Byo obliterated him in the grand scale.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Mar 19th 2023 at 9:34:14 AM

You're right. But Joker is merely a subordinate to Pierrot and doesn't upsurp him, but he still counts.