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John "Nash" Bozard

The host of WTFIWWY.

  • A God Am I: He may have claimed to be Jesus while being way too drunk.
  • Animal Motifs: Monkeys. He loves monkeys. For example, the picture used in the 'We Are Experiencing Technical Difficulties' sign is an adorable chibi Nash with monkey ears and a monkey tail.
  • Anti-Hero: Of the good, but not heroic, kind.
    • Tara once described him as being as far away from being Jesus as possible without actually being Charles Manson. Nash thanked her for the compliment.
  • Berserk Button: Nash reacts strongly to bad journalism, such as unclear facts and Incredibly Lame Puns.
    • While he really doesn't like kids, he and Tara became furious over a story involving a man who used his one-year-old son and girlfriend as human shields against pepper spray.
      • And another involving a mother who smoked marijuana, put her baby son on the roof of her car in his carseat, and then drove off after forgetting about him. She didn't even stop when the carseat fell off the car (fortunately, her son was not hurt).
      • Hell, anytime his dislike of kids comes up, it will lead in to a story involving appalling negligence and/or abuse.
    • Don't insult, hurt, or slander his friends. Nash will not be happy. Especially if it involves JewWario, as the head of Project Million Entertainment learnt after stating after Justin's death that he was happy to be working for them. (Nash had a Skype conversation saved, showing that Justin was pretty pissed that PME owed him a few thousand dollars.)
    • Eddie Van Halen's Franken-Strat. Nash doesn't deny that Van Halen is a god of guitar-playing, but Van Halen's butchered a few guitars over the years, something that tends to make Nash pretty damn annoyed.
  • Butt-Monkey: Most notable in the crossover episodes.
  • Catchphrase: Wouldn't be a TGWTG member without one.
    • "Hey kids, I'm Nash and I couldn't make this shit up if I tried." (opening line)
    • "This is Nash, saying that if I have to hurt, so does everyone else." (closing line)
    • "Looks like this is the part where I elaborate." Lead-in for the animated intros.
    • Obviously, "What the fuck is wrong with you?!"
      • When there's a woman who does something particularly stupid: "The fuck is wrong with you, lady?!"
    • "This," (picture) "plus this," (another picture) "equals fucking this!" (picture depicting an obvious combination of the preceding pictures)
    • "Look out, everyone, it's a DOOOOOUCHEQUAAAAAAAAAKE!"
      • Followed by "We haven't had one this bad since [really douchy event]."
    • "Don't be caught standing, when the music stops." (a closing line for one of his other shows, The Musical Chair)
    • "Each week, Kathryn (and the Radio-Dead-Air-Audience) goes out on the world wide interwebs, finds all sorts of horrible stuff, brings it back here on a segment we like to call "What the Fuck Is Wrong With You?"" (opening line for the live version)
    • "So, what have we learned this week?"
    • "I/We got video!"
    • "Live, everybody!" (whenever they encounter technical difficulties in the Live show). This reached the point where during a general sound failure Tara wrote it on an index card and held it up to her camera.
    • He has been known to close his weekly show with "I'll see you next week, same bat-time, same bat-channel. Meanwhile, this is Nash saying stick a stake in me, I'm done!"
    • From his reviews: "Remember that. It's going to hurt later."
    • Whenever someone older than about 30 turns up on the show, "[Age], that is, old enough to fucking know better..."
    • "Are we ready to begin the nonsense?"
    • Whenever someone makes a bad joke, usually one about him: "Funny."
    • After a deep inhale "...Alright."
    • "No, you're going to yell at me!" (usually used to mock people who try to escape punishment from a (comparatively) minor crime by committing an even bigger crime)
  • Child Hater: Hate is a bit much, but he doesn't really care for children. However he gets really upset whenever someone hurts and/or mistreats a child.
  • Deadpan Snarker: Well, sometimes not that deadpan...
  • Determinator: He will not miss a single week of Radio Dead Air if he can help it. In thirteen years, he's missed less than ten, and one of those still had the show going on with Tara filling in.
    • Not illness, not sleep deprivation, not his monitor catching on fire, not losing his job, not him breaking up with his girlfriend, not the loss of a friend due to suicide, not going to England, not even the death of his own father will stop him from hosting the show.
  • Driven to Madness: One of the stories finally made him snap and go on a hammer-killing spree while singing "I've Been Working On The Railroad".
  • Drop the Hammer: His Weapon of Choice is a standard claw hammer with a red handle.
  • Even Riffers Have Standards.: While he will laugh at the idiocy-induced misfortune of others (sometimes quite heartily), as he demonstrated in Episode 31, he has his limits. (Namely, politics, sexual assault and religious stories, as the first and last are prone to starting long-winded arguments and the second is just no.)
    • Nash also will not cover a story that ends in death or extreme mutilation. Fans that clamored for Nash to cover a May 2012 story of a man that was high on bath salts when he tried to eat another man's face (resulting in the attacker being killed by the police) were met with him outright refusing to do so on Twitter, proclaiming the story to be tragic, not funny. Of course that didn't stop newcomers to the livestream later that day still asking for it.
    • Although he still covered it, he was clearly horrified about a news story where a woman attacked her own mother to steal her engagement ring.
    Nash: It's your mom! Man, I would beat someone STUPID if they laid a finger on MY mama!
    • He normally doesn't cover stories where people get hurt, mainly because it's not funny and WTFIWWY isn't America's Funniest Home Videos. He'll make exceptions if the subject of a story didn't get seriously hurt, especially if they hurt themselves in an exceedingly stupid way.
  • Go Mad from the Revelation: More like Go Mad From The Rampant Stupidity, but it still applies. Nash frequently is a few SAN points lower by the end of the episode from all the stupid shit that people do.
  • Gone Horribly Wrong: He and Tara met while making fun of Navikin online. Nash was flagged, while Tara was pulled aside by the mods and asked not to encourage him. That worked splendidly.
  • Heroes Want Redheads: He apparently has something of a thing for redheads.
  • I Call It "Vera": His custom Fender Stratocaster, Laura (named after the first woman to break his heart, apparently).
  • Identical Stranger: 'Identical' is a stretch, but due to his hair, he bears a strong resemblance to the common conception of Jesus. This is a Running Gag.
  • Ironic Hell: Nash can keep doing this for the rest of his life because stupid people will exist as long as humanity does. He does not see this as a good thing.
  • Knight in Sour Armor: Despite his snarkyness and mocking sarcasm Nash is still a decent guy.
  • Limited Wardrobe: The blue jacket and the black shirt with a grey collar. Though he has used other clothes, these are the most common.
  • Medium Awareness: In the scripted show. Most notable are his comments on various camera upgrades.
    • When the show jumped to widescreen, he trailed off during his opening line to ask "is it me or did it get a lot bigger in here?"
  • Minor Injury Overreaction: While participating in a NERF war at MAGFest X in January 2012, Nash became incensed when a fellow player accidentally shot him in the crotch, going so far as to call him out on it during the TGWTG panel. "You shot me in the dick!" became one of the most memorable moments of the con.
  • Mood-Swinger: Nash can go from fairly calm to hammer-swinging crazy in seconds.
  • Only Sane Man: Nash is this to not only everybody in the featured news stories, but often also to other characters on the show.
    • Not only in his own show, but even compared to other hosts on the site.
  • Rapunzel Hair: It's one of his most notable features. Everybody loves the hair.
  • Screams Like a Little Girl: Not in the show itself, but apparently he managed to drop Emperor Palpatine's lightsaber through his own foot.
  • Signature Laugh: Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
  • Slasher Smile: Oh, boy.
  • Stage Name: Nash is his middle name, which noone found out until Lord Kat repeated a story on his podcast about Jesu Otaku apparently forgetting this briefly and saying he'd never dated anyone with that name.
  • Stepford Smiler: Shades of this.
  • Tempting Fate: When talking about doing something stupid, he often ends up doing the same thing anyway. He also admits he shouldn't take viewer submissions, but does so anyway.
  • Title Drop
  • Weapon of Choice: Nash favors the standard issue hardware store hammer.
  • Wrong Genre Savvy: Zig-zagged. He assumes that he'll be perfectly fine after the monkey attack, since the effects of zaniness go away next episode. It didn't, it went away the episode after the next episode.

Tara Deenihan

"Ladies and gentlemen, my co-host: the Devil."

Nash's co-host during the live shows.

  • Animal Motifs: Hippos. Oh, she really loves hippos.
    • Personality wise, she says that she's a cat.
  • Berserk Button: Tara doesn't seem to take kindly to Nash forgetting about the hippo she gave him.
    • Also, while she is not a mom, she has nieces and nephews that she loves dearly, so stories that involve kids being put in danger piss Tara off right away.
    • Tara was an art major in college. As such, stories such as that of the Ecce Homo incident strike a nerve with her.
    • Lately, people smuggling things inside themselves has really started to freak her out.
    • People who act like dicks toward (or even physically abuse) retail staff, as revealed when discussing a certain Sonic the Hedgehog fan's attacking a GameStop employee with pepper spray. She points out that such staff work long hours on low wages, are almost never responsible for the things that piss off customers, and simply don't deserve to be treated the way they often are.
    • Not that it comes up much in the show because Nash has standards, but animal abuse will make her blow her top.
  • Blessed with Suck: She regards her uncanny ability to unwittingly provide segues for Nash as this. On multiple occasions she's called it the world's worst superpower.
  • The Cameo: She's made four appearances on the scripted show: First in a parody of 50s educational videos, second in voice only as an almighty being that lived on a mountain and third on-screen at the beginning of a gaggle of other cameos. A fourth one is now added which explains why she's not on the taped episodes.
  • Catchphrase: "Welcome back to 'Be A Better Criminal with Tara'" (before pointing out the holes in dumb criminals' logic).
    • (In response to an outlandish reaction to an otherwise normal situation) "Y'know... like ya do..."
      • Also: "I don't know, I don't judge" when discussing weird fetishes.
    • "I'm just saying...", usually after saying something horrific/hilarious/both.
    • "Oh, poodle," said sarcastically whenever someone in the story complains about a trivial problem.
    • "Oh that reminds me" right before she goes into one of her many related stories.
    • When there's a grammatical mistake in the article: "EDIT!"
    • "In with the Buddha, out with the Hitler. In with the Buddha, out with the Hitler." Usually said when Nash is in a rage again.
    • Or when she's about to tell some facts (that should be obvious): "See, here's the thing..."
    • "Freakin' white people, man", usually regarding racially charged incidents.
    • Whenever a story takes place in Long Island, Tara: "LONG ISLAND?!" in a strong Long Island accent.
  • Celebrity Crush: She has the hots for Chris Evans. She's also fond of Hugh Jackman.
  • Cloudcuckoolander: Her obsessive collection of hippo toys and her tendency to go off on bizarre tangents make her come across as one.
  • Collector of the Strange: Hippo toys. A whole truckload of 'em.
    • According to her husband, Dan, she also has "enough nail polish to repaint the house."
  • Cool Aunt: Nash has pointed out that her nieces and nephews are going to think she's the coolest aunt ever once they're old enough to watch the show, since "she says fuck on the internet."
  • Cosmic Plaything: She got into so many accidents as a child that her mom took her to different hospitals for fear of being suspected of child abuse.
  • Crazy Cat Lady: And proud of it. She has a cat stroller.
    • With as many cats as she has either personally owned or helped take care of, the RDA chat has granted her the nickname "Mother of Kittens". She even volunteers at a cat shelter (specifically, the one from which she and Dan adopted Peggy, Dottie, and Simba).
  • Dark and Troubled Past
    Nash: Whenever you tell childhood stories, it's like Rose Nylund from The Golden Girls meets Saw.
  • Deadpan Snarker: Can destroy any story with one snarky sentence and reduce Nash to a laughing or gibbering mess.
  • Do Wrong, Right: Her general schtick is getting mad at criminals for doing it wrong.
  • Doesn't Like Guns: Has a self admitted fear of guns. She prefers bludgeoning weapons.
  • Even the Girls Want Her: She once encountered naked women waving at her to come hither. She didn't actually explain what happened next.
  • Fascinating Eyebrow: Goes along great with her huge eyes.
  • Fiery Redhead
  • Foreshadowing: Has an amazing knack for guessing events that are going to appear on the show, even months ahead of time, to the point of calling it the world's worst superpower.
  • Girls Love Stuffed Animals: Especially if they are hippos.
  • Hilariously Abusive Childhood: She has a bizarre childhood story that pertains to almost every story they run across. She mentioned several times that she had the orthodontist from Auschwitz because he snapped off two of her teeth while removing braces.
    • Her mother actually had to cycle between different hospitals to avoid suspicion of child abuse.
  • Joke and Receive: She has the uncanny ability to make jokes that turn out to be segues to whatever the next story is. She regards it as the most useless superpower ever.
  • Kindhearted Cat Lover: Over the course of the show, she's had a few cats. Bridget, who belonged to her nephew; Miracle, who belonged to her boyfriend (later husband); and kittens Peggy and Dottie (her current pets). With the addition of Simba to her cat family, she has truly earned her nickname "Mother of Kittens".
    • Now works at a cat shelter, and frequently plugs "Adopt, don't shop" campaigns on twitter.
  • The Lancer: Of the live show.
  • The Maiden Name Debate: Decided to go for a double barrel name (Dan didn't).
  • Nightmare Face: Every so often, her Skype screws up, giving her a horribly-damaged pixellated face that (in the best case scenario) clears up in a few seconds, or (in the worst case scenario) freezes for a minute until she sorts it out.
  • Nightmare Fuel Station Attendant: Yes. More than once, has said something with a smile that makes Nash utterly horrified.
    Nash: Everything you just said made me sad.
  • Noodle Incident: She once kicked her way through a plate glass door. The reason for this may or may not have anything to do with the FBI.
  • Older Than They Look: She's the same age as Nash, but looks a lot younger. She's occasionally rather startled when stories feature people younger than her, but have aged worse. The fact she used to work at a high end makeup store might help.
  • Only Sane Man
  • Pop-Cultural Osmosis Failure: In her own words, her mother "wouldn't let her participate in anything that would make her cool," so she occasionally fails to recognize certain popular geeky works, to the exasperation of Nash, the chat, and occasionally Dan.
  • Pungeon Master: And damn proud of it, to Nash's eternal chagrin.
  • Quizzical Tilt
  • Raised Catholic
  • Real Song Theme Tune: Over the last few weeks of 2011, she had "I Want A Hippopotamus For Christmas."
  • Running Gag: "Welcome back to 'Be a Better Criminal with Tara!'" Also, Disembodied Orgasm Hippo.
    "OHH, OHH, I'M A HAPPY HIPPO! OHH, OHH!" *maniacal laughter*
    • Also has a story that somehow relates to anything. Also can bring anything back to Lost and/or Hippos.
    • Pointing out every year that she's heard of the above mentioned Christmas song, and is amazed when anyone thinks she hasn't.
  • Spell My Name with an "S": Due to the varying accents of the hosts and guest hosts, more than a few people continually mishear her name as 'Tera' or 'Terra', and refer to her as such.
  • Strange Minds Think Alike: Occured quite frequently between her and JesuOtaku, when he (prior to transitioning) and Nash were dating.
    • She and Nash met when they were making fun of Navikin online.
  • Third-Person Person: Tara sometimes refers to Tara in the third person, usually when Tara is answering questions/discussing comments about Tara in the chat.
  • Trademark Favorite Food: Pepsi. She's also really fond of flan.
  • Weirdness Magnet: "I am apparently a crazy magnet."
  • Womanchild: She absolutely loves hippos, to the point of of obsession. That being said, she's usually the more level-headed and down-to-earth of the two, and she tends to come up with the more disturbing jokes.
    • She got her first hippo toy when she was 19, and carried it everywhere.


The star of Nash's introductory cartoons.

  • Cargo Ship: In-Universe. See Second Love below.
  • The Chew Toy: Gets hurt quite a bit during the opening segments.
    • So much that the TGWTG showrunner might veto many things, but catapulting Stick Boy is acceptable.
  • Good Eyes, Evil Eyes: During the opening segment, Stickboy's eyes will sometimes have white rings in them rather than being fully black the way they usually are. This has been used to demonstrate drunkenness, drug use, or even just straight insanity, but it has never meant anything good.
  • Roger Rabbit Effect: He has been shown to be Nash's employee, rather than his creation.
  • Second Love: Found one after Lupa rejected him.... with a stop sign. And they had a son.
  • Talking with Signs
  • The Voiceless: Except for screams of fear and pain.
    • A rare few times, he's also been heard giggling.

    Secondary Characters 

Space Guy

The leader of an unspecified extraterrestrial race's spaceship.

Arlo P. Arlo

A southern guy who apparently likes DIY and guns.

The Trousers Cosmic

Best described by Nash: "Pants are aliens, and they are angry. Angry alien pants."


    The Pets 

In general


Tara's nephew's kitten, who started appearing in the background in June 2014.

  • Funny Background Event: Ever since she came into Tara's house, she's been regularly appearing in the background or just making noise off-camera.
  • Put on a Bus: Bridget belongs to Tara's nephew and is no longer on the show since Tara moved out of her sister's home.
  • Spotlight-Stealing Squad: Bridget has immediately captured the viewers' hearts (and attention), even upstaging Tara in her first appearance on camera, and leading Nash to joke bitterly about renaming the show "Radio Cat Hair."


Tara's adopted senior cat, who happened to be completely deaf.

  • Grumpy Old Lady: Miracle gained the nickname "Little Kitty Gives-No-Fucks" for a reason.
  • Ill Girl: Miracle was a kitten mill kitty, so she had multiple health issues as a result. In particular, it was revealed during "Ding Dong, It's My Ding-Dong" that she was recently diagnosed with lymphoma, with the expectation that it is terminal.
    • Miracle passed away on May 31, 2016. She will be very much missed.
  • Meaningful Name: She was named Miracle because it was a miracle that she lived for so long with her various health problems.
  • No Indoor Voice: Being deaf, she meowed at maximum level anytime she spoke. Also tended to make a loud "mrrr!" noise when pet.
  • Replacement Goldfish: Miracle was instantly adopted by viewers as provider of Cuteness Proximity whenever she was onscreen.


Nash's ragdoll kitty, who started appearing in early 2016.

  • Affectionate Nickname: Floofopotamus, as given by Tara; the chat uses many variants on "floof".
    • Nash prefers either "Goofus" or "You Little Shit", depending on how annoying Grady's being at the moment.
  • The Big Guy: He's a ragdoll, which is one of the largest breeds in the world...though he's still just a big ball of floof. Eventually he got heavy enough that Nash put his back out trying to pick him up one time.
  • Brainless Beauty: He's adorable, and also as dumb as a box of rocks.
  • Cuddle Bug: He started out terrified of Nash, but now regularly insists that Nash cuddle and pet him. The chat calls it a "floof break".
  • Cute, but Cacophonic: He tends to be rather loud when he wants Nash's attention.
  • Funny Background Event: Can often be seen playing with his toys or lounging in the background of Nash's studio. Sometimes, this results in him passing in front of the green screen, resulting in him looking like he's standing in the middle of nowhere.
    • Lately, Grady has taken to sitting a blanket-covered guitar amplifier Nash has in the background; naturally this did not escape the notice of Nash or the chat and has since become a Running Gag all its own.
  • Lovable Coward: When he was younger, Grady tended to be a literal scaredy-cat, but he's grown out of it. He still cannot stand being left outside, however; the floof is very much an indoor cat.
  • Phrase Catcher: "Grady, please" or "Grady, get off the amp".
  • Potty Failure: More than once, Grady's had what Nash refers to as a "poop malfunction" because of his long, fluffy fur. Said issues have caused streams to end early or be delayed.
  • Ridiculously Cute Critter: Just look at him!
  • Speaks Fluent Animal: Averted, obviously. Although, as expressed in this tweet, that doesn't stop Nash from trying:
    Nash: Dear God, please give me the strength to stop trying to reason with my cat. Thanks.
  • Spotlight-Stealing Squad: Has a habit of misbehaving in some capacity, drawing the attention of either Tara or the audience.

Peggy and Dottie

Two tabby cats that Dan and Tara got following Miracle's death.


Sarah's black Labrador retriever dog, who accompanied Sarah when she moved in with Nash.


Tara's third addition, an orange tabby adopted from the cat shelter Tara worked at before her move to Colorado.

  • The Big Guy: Not as big as Grady but still got his big butt stuck in the hole of a cat tree.
  • Cute, but Cacophonic: He's a handsome fella, and prone to yelling for attention, much like Grady.
  • Dark and Troubled Past: Poor Simba came to the Tabby's Place cat shelter after abuse and neglect at another shelter, hence his Hair-Trigger Temper, and was at Tabby's Place for over two years, dealing with issues with anxiety and rage... Thankfully, after years of bonding with Tara, she realized she was the best mom for him and brought the big guy home.
  • Hair-Trigger Temper: Tara described him as having rage issues, and he has to wear claw caps. He's mellowed out a lot since being adopted, though.
  • Shout-Out Theme Naming: Tara claims his full name is Simba Buchanan Barnes, reflecting both the Theme Naming of his adoptive sisters, and his dark past and rage issues.
  • Potty Emergency: Simba has, on multiple occasions, entered the room and taken a large, stanky dump in the litterbox while Tara and Dan are trying to co-host the show.


Tara's latest addition, a black and white formerly feral cat that she and Dan rescued.

  • Shrinking Violet: Valkyrie appears the least times of all the cats, because she's still getting used to not being feral.

    Other Real People 


Tara's husband.

  • Berserk Button:
    • While he doesn't usually freak out, he always reacts poorly to stories about people being careless with weapons.
    • Basically anything stupid going on relating to the military, given his background.
    • Accusing him of stolen valor on Twitter. The amount of knowledge he shows just when it comes up in the show should prove to anyone he was actually in the army.
    • People acting too friendly with him on Twitter just because he's Tara's husband.
  • Cool Uncle: Perhaps a bit too cool; Tara's sister's son really likes it when Dan shows him how to make explosives.
  • Creepy Good: He's a pretty nice guy, usually, but he has a lot of... unusual knowledge from his time in the military, as well as from his PhD in psychology. He also has a pretty dark sense of humor.
    Dan: That reminds me of a funny story where a guy blew off his hand.
  • Deadpan Snarker: He has his moments.
    Dan (offscreen): Really? I thought I was gay.
  • Death Glare: Is apparently really good at these, especially when it comes to shaming people into wearing protective masks properly. The fact he can supposedly go without blinking for really long periods helps.
  • Funny Background Event: Whenever he's on screen. The toilet paper gag in The Mystery Pooper is a good example.
  • Genius Bruiser: He's a former soldier with a PhD.
  • I Take Offense to That Last One!: He's fine with his rep as a lover of kabooms among other things, but he seemed outright offended at the chat's suggestion that he'd use explosives to kill squirrels. Dan likes animals, it's people he's less fond of.
  • Pyromaniac: He once said that he liked to set people's houses on fire as a child.
  • Sitcom Arch-Nemesis: While working as a ComicCon talent handler, John Rhys-Davies poked fun at Dan for getting a Psychology degree. Dan then responded by traveling to another con just to have John Rhys-Davies sign a copy of his PhD.
  • Stuff Blowing Up: He's rather... fond of explosives. He also wants to teach Tara's nine year old nephew how to build bombs. His reason? "It's fun!"
  • The Voice: Subverted. He's normally watching the show from a separate computer, but he will come on camera every once and a while.
    • Fully averted now with the latest move... Whenever he'll be watching the show, he'll be at his computer right behind Tara in full view.

Sarah, aka Gryph

Nash's girlfriend, who moved in with him in late 2017.
  • The Faceless: Early on, would just talk off-screen or at most have her arms in the shot bringing Grady to Nash. She has had to step in full view of the camera to call out Nash and Dan over their love of "boiled peanuts".
  • Not So Above It All: Frequently the Straight Man to Nash whenever Tara isn't around, but at Twitter proves she's just as prone to nonsense as he is.

Kathryn Merrill

Nash's main researcher for the show.

Mike Gearman, the Producer

Nash's friend and producer, famous for his trolling requests on Radio Dead Air and his co-hosting the Tech Q&A.
  • Guest Host: Made a rare on-camera appearence to sub in for Tara on "Bare Breasted Brouhaha"
    • He's now the co-host of the Tech Q&A with Nash, bringing his considerable tech and IT expertise to the show.
  • Suspiciously Similar Substitute: To LordKaT, Nash's co-host on Tuesday Tech Talk, which was essentially the exact same show.
  • Troll: He sent Nash a fucking gimp suit, for the love of God.
    • Which Nash did use at least once for a gag.
    • The vast majority of the requests he makes on RDA are designed to freak out as many people as possible.


A former CA producer and member of the now-defunct DesuDesBrigade, and an ex-paramour of Nash's before his (JO's) gender transition. Appeared on the live WTFIWWY and RDA whenever the show was broadcast from his house, and regularly appeared on the show when he was still living with Nash. For his tropes, see his page. After the breakup, JO became a somewhat-contentious subject among the RDA userbase, even to this day, though time has eased and cooled tensions.

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