To-do list:

Dewick Acceptable Targets and its former subtropes because it is now an index and not a trope/YMMV item, and its former subtropes have been turned into redirects. These are the redirects to dewick:
Dewick Once Acceptable Targets, which is now a redirect to Values Dissonance.
Place any promising-looking, possibly tropable content on Sandbox.Negative Depictions Sandbox

Original post:

Note: This thread was proposed by badtothebaritone.

Acceptable Targets and its various subtropes are supposed to be about groups of people that society deems acceptable to make fun of. However, the usage suffers from a few major issues. Acceptable Targets is both a ZCE magnet and a pothole magnet. Those two categories alone made up over half the wicks, and that's only counting the entries that had no examples with context at all. There are several other entries with ZCEs but have at least one example with context, which I put in the appropriate category for that example. The vast majority of examples that do have context don't talk about how the group is acceptable to make fun of and are therefore redundant with Take That!. The few that do are generally hypotheticals. The examples don't show the audience's perspective either, which is unacceptable because the tropes are YMMV. To summarize the Acceptable Targets Wick Check:

Something is explicitly okay to make fun of - 6/52
Something is made fun of - 15/52
Something is repeatedly made fun of - 3/52
ZCE/Pothole/Related Trope/Misc. - 28/52

The discussion thread came up with two main ideas for how to deal with this:

Disambiguate between Take That!, Author Tract, and possibly other tropes
Retool the trope into something along the lines of "A work repeatedly and consistently makes fun of a specific thing throughout," preferably with a new name.

Wick check for this thread:

Wicks checked: 52/52

Something is explicitly acceptable to make fun of (6/52)

PlayingWith.Rich Bitch - Enforced: The creators make a wealthy character unpleasant because they have a beef against the wealthy or because they know that the "uppity and selfish socialite" is an acceptable target.
Hate Dumb - Bandwagon Hater: Opposes this work, but only as long as it's the trendy thing to do. This hater is always on the lookout for Acceptable Targets, not because they truly hate them, but because it's fun to complain and no fun to do it alone. Sometimes, the Bandwagon Hater will like the Acceptable Targets but deny having anything but hate towards it. More often than not, these people may have even been fans of the show, especially in shows where it was trendy to like it, but then it became trendy to hate it. A very good way of spotting this if any Caustic Critic releases a scathing review, or if the majority of a fanbase or popular forum hates it, even if they had previously liked the work, and afterwards, start carbon-copying their opinions, sometimes word for word. In extreme cases, they may have no opinions of their own. The inverse happens in Fan Dumb, as well. This is what the page quote essentially describes; the person who hates something not because they genuinely dislike it, but because the "cool kids" told them to.
PlayingWith.No Sympathy For Grudge Holders - Deconstructed: Bob's friends say that it is okay for his family to die. Bonus points if Bob's family happened to be on one of the Acceptable Targets list. This turns Bob against said friends, causing him to develop a deep seated hatred of humanity as a result. He becomes an antisocial recluse and lashes out, causing society to ostracize him more and causing him to lash out further.
Zhirinovskys Russian Empire - Acceptable Targets: In-Universe, western media treats Zhirinovsky and Russia in general as one. For example, the Simpsons episode "You Only Move Twice" features him as an associate of Hank Scorpio. Zavidiya, however, blames American media for much of the tension between Russia and America by demonizing Russia as a whole.
Have Yourself A Miserable Little Christmas - "Johnny, Baronessy, please, stop struggling," said Satan, "we need to succeed or you and all of your species will, otherwise, be condemned to oblivion. Johnny and Baronessy were very suspicious but being Indians and therefore, Acceptable Targets, they were very close to nature and the spirit world and knew the universe was a very dark and grim place. Johnny said, "very well but I don't trust you. I think you're a Sociopathic Hero and I am willing to die to save the world from Hell.
CowboyBeBopAtHisComputer.Myth And Religion - Islam is subject to all manner of misconceptions in the West, many of them negative, owing to the religion being an Acceptable Target. Indeed, it's been a target for centuries among Christians, leading to some weird misconceptions.

Something is made fun of (15/52)

Warrior Nun Areala - Acceptable Targets:
1. The Freemasons, who are portrayed as being synonymous with The Illuminati.
2. An even more agreeably undisputed group to vilify would be the Nazis.
Funny.Dragon Ball Z Abridged Movies - The two radio personalities who have the gall to joke around when the Androids are blowing up a city and one of them just so happens to have a fiancee who lives there, but now he is likely single and open to dating.
YMMV.Moone Boy - Acceptable Targets:
1. Altar boys are depicted as shifty little terrors who operate a sort of miniature Mafia around a single musician (who doesn't really buy into their operation) and, in one episode, vandalise the Moone house in an attempt to terrorize Martin into shutting up about his alleged UFO sighting.
2. Protestants, given that the series is set in a largely Catholic community. For example, in "Bells 'n' Smells", when Father Linehan visits Dessie's new religious store, which caters to a wide variety of religions, including Judaism and Islam, the only thing he takes any real issue to is the possibility of the store catering to Protestants. To his relief, it doesn't.
YMMV.Would I Lie To You - Acceptable Targets:
1. Rob Brydon's accent, height, and impressions are all fair game for mockery.
2. When Ronnie Corbett appeared on the show, there were plenty of cracks about his short stature. Several of them made by Corbett himself.
3. Cockney accents, especially if the speakers draw out their vowels, are ripe for mocking especially by Lee.
YMMV.Bojack Horseman S 5 E 03 Planned Obsolescence - Acceptable Targets: As with anyone in this show who has anything better than a toxic sex life, Yolanda's sex positive family are depicted as depraved, hypersexual weirdos incapable of thinking about anything but sex. With that said, when Yolanda finally comes out of the closet, they are understanding and in fact Todd is shocked that they went for an unnecessary Zany Scheme.
YMMV.Pop Quiz Hotshot - Acceptable Targets: Christian in Bunny Boobies, who not only wore a My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic tee, but also admitted to writing MLP fanfiction. Critic made fun but not in a nasty way, while the comment section is full of accusations of him of being autistic and hopes that he really did get shot.
YMMV.Jesus On Thy Face - Acceptable Targets: The rules of ThyFace warn against offensive behavior, except if it is directed at "women, gentiles or homos."
YMMV.Raw - Acceptable Targets:
1. Non-Irish characters to a slightly uncomfortable degree. Tanya, Max and Selena (British) are all Jerkasses (the latter being a scammer as well). Bobby isn't a jerkass but still a shameless womanizer and presented as the 'wrong' man for Jojo instead of Nice Guy Dylan (Irish). The Australian Geoff is loud and abusive (though eventually softened through Character Development). It seems Pavel is the only one shown to be sensible and responsible. While the Irish characters are flawed, they're usually shown to be more down to earth.
2. Anthony takes the cake. He's a Hate Sink abusive husband who's controlling and trying to prevent Jojo from seeing her friends or family. Of course he's American.
YMMV.Twisted Metal - Hollywood Homely: Deconstructed with Dollface in the PS3 remake. She is a former supermodel who got a (minor) scar on her face, decided that her beauty was ruined (even though it clearly wasn't, as her doctor could plainly see), and started wearing a mask to cover up her "imperfection." David Jaffe said (about 14 minutes in) that the character is a satire of the extreme standards of beauty that women are faced with by the media and pop culture... while flatly denying that the character was based on his ex-wife.
YMMV.The Omniverse Event - Acceptable Targets: Calvin and Susie both take a shot at Candy Crush Saga and other "pay-to-win" games in Voidtrapped.
YMMV.The Owl House S 2 E 10 Yesterdays Lie - Acceptable Targets: Jacob Hopkins, the curator of the historical society, is a jab at internet conspiracy theorists. Not only is Jacob wildly misinformed about demons, but even when presented with a real demon, he chooses to believe things he read on the internet over what Vee tells him. He's shown in a Freeze-Frame Bonus to be a flat-earther, which explains how he distrusts the official explanation simply because it's the official explanation. Jacob also displays a sociopathic disregard for Vee's sentience, and wants to cage and dissect her for the sake of internet fame rather than genuine curiosity. Luz already mentioned that she was scared of "jerks who want to debate online"; this episode shows that she had a good reason to be scared of them.
YMMV.Dads - Acceptable Targets:
1. Many jokes get made at the expense of Veronica's Asian heritage.
2. In response, she often jokes about Eli's size.
3. Warner's father constantly making racist comments.
YMMV.Forum Fantasy - Acceptable Targets: Various types of users on Internet forums, being noobs, flamers, fanboys, trolls, spammers, and thread necromancers are made fun of in this game and are referred to as "Forum Pests".
This Loser Is You - A new line of DirecTV commercials starring Rob Lowe as both himself and some sort of Acceptable Target stereotype go pretty deep into this, as they actually do seem more intended to directly insult customers of the competing companies than to win them over to this brand.
YMMV.Xavier Renegade Angel - Acceptable Targets: New Age Retro Hippies, anarchists, rednecks, enviromentalists and religious fundamentalists.
1. Xavier's character seems to be a Take That! to people who think they are wiser than everybody else just because they are familiar with spiritual themes and philosophical concepts. Most of the destruction in the series is caused by Xavier trying to be like a spiritual mentor and failing at it.

Work or person a work likes taking potshots at a lot (3/52)

YMMV.The Mighty Jingles - Acceptable Targets:
1. In World of Tanks, it is the artillery. One of his catchphrases is "artillery kills are the best kind of kills." Though he does occasionally show replays from arty players, he actually picks on the "Scumbags" (players who suicide when the game doesn't go in their favor).
2. In World of Warships, he picks on battleship drivers when they get hit by torpedoes on account of sailing entirely in straight lines. The best example of this is here. When a battleship manages to avoid torpedoes, Jingles expresses amazement that the player actually knows what his rudder is for.
YMMV.Matthew Reilly - Acceptable Targets:
1. Judging from The Great Zoo of China, Reilly really isn't a fan of the Chinese government. Just the government, though; civilians are treated far more sympathetically.
2. Before that, it used to be the French - but he's warmed up to them.
3. Strangely enough, Chinese weaponry. Whenever a Chinese gun is named, it's usually followed by some variant of "the Chinese knockoff of the (original gun)". Done even more bizarrely in The Five Greatest Warrior, where he has the (fictional) Russian Mi-48 helicopter show up just to describe it as a "cheap Chinook knockoff" - despite the Russians having the extremely successful Mi-8, Mi-17 and Mi-26 transport helicopters that he could have more realistically used.
YMMV.Mad - Acceptable Targets: Increasingly so from the 1970s onward.
1. Lawyers are some of the most frequently targeted.
2. Tobacco and alcohol companies, particularly in the early years of the magazine. Gaines had something of a Berserk Button when it came to smoking, particularly underage smoking. This was during the early Sixties, when alcohol and cigarettes were treated much more casually than today.

ZCE/Pothole/Related/Whatever (28/52)

YMMV.TV Trash - Acceptable Targets:
1. He REALLY likes to tear Cartoon Network apart.
2. NBC isn't safe, either. Cancelling his favourite show without a proper finale is the root of these jokes; he has not watched NBC since.
3. Also, the states of Oklahoma and California.
4. He also likes to rip on TNA every once in a while.
5. Oh, and American Football isn't safe, either. The Dallas Cowboys also get this treatment especially hard. In real life, Chris despises the sport for what he perceives is an overt amount of violence and an annoying (at best) fanbase. He barely covers the Dallas Cowboys on his DFW-focused sports blog.
6. He also really enjoys splitting reality TV into two.
YMMV.Sheldon - Acceptable Targets: L'Acadamie Francaise and the British legal system, among others.
1. Bill Gates is a pretty popular target, too.
Words - Portfolio
Film/Better Off Dead - "Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that!" (quote listed twice, both with pothole)
YMMV.At Midnight - Acceptable Targets:
1. Florida.
2. Just about everything under Acceptable Hobby Targets (Furries, Juggalos, Hipsters, etc.)
3. Averted with Nerds. Comedians making a joke where being a nerd is treated as a bad thing generally get boos from the audience, scorn from Chris, and no points.
Implacable - Acceptable Targets: Nazis, particularly in "Tolkien Was Half Right".
Fark - Only in Florida: So much so that the state has its own tag. See Acceptable Targets.
YMMV.National Lampoons Christmas Vacation - Unintentionally Sympathetic: While not to the point of them being designated villains, Todd and Margo Chester do end up being this. While they're vain, stuck-up, condescending yuppies, but they don't do much to Clark beyond insulting him as he tries to decorate his house. Yet they're constantly victims to Clark's destructive festivities, with frequent collateral damage to their house and occasional physical abuse. Granted, they're also no kinder to one another than they are to Clark, coldly sneering and snarking at each other while only keeping up appearances until, by the end, they're outright hostile to one another.
Werewolf by Night - New-Age Retro Hippie: Hippies pop up here and there in volume 1 as Acceptable Targets.
Funny.Saturday Night Live Season 43 - Ellen: "France is banning the use of cellphones in schools. According to a French official, it's important for kids to have their hands free to smoke."
Metagame - * There have been rumors of discovery of a board game with simple rules under the countless metagame layers of Diplomacy, but it might just be the Russians trying to double-cross us again.
Supernatural.Tropes M To P - Crowley: "There's a reason we don't call our chits in early: consumer confidence. This isn’t Wall Street, this is Hell! We have a little something called integrity. If this gets out, who'll deal with us? Nobody! Then, where are we?"
Funny.Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2 - For most people the scene is an easy Take That! towards a well-known Butt-Monkey. However, it actually had a dedicated cult following^note, and its treatment in the media (who really love its primary competitor) left its fans perennially irked about it always being an acceptable target. So it's pretty funny to see it referenced, given that GotG was once a cult classic itself that fans worried would be overshadowed by a much more well-known and shinier brand.
YMMV.Jonah Hex - Acceptable Targets: Southerners, at least if they're Confederate sympathizers.
Bait-and-Switch Boss - Fur Fighters has a rather humorous example. In the Space Station Meer, you bump into a Xenomorph, but before the fight starts, a stereotypical lawyer barges in, claiming to represent 31st Century Films, and begins berating the game for breaking 35 different copyrights. The player character argues back, so the lawyer draws a gun and begins shooting at them.
TriumphantExample.A - Acceptable Targets:
1. Twilight and its fandom. ~ Embracing Shadows
2. Nazis. ~ Geek Code Red, DDRMASTERM
3. Justin Bieber. ~ Hotel California, REV 6 Pilot, urielzet
4. It's Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday...
5. The Westboro Baptist Church. Assholes. ~ Arcane Azmadi
6. Heterosexual cisgendered white men Tropers/Dragon-Feathers
7. The Church of Happyology. They just make it too damn easy. ~ Savini 24
YMMV.Fyodor Dostoevsky - Acceptable Targets: Nihilists, especially in combination with atheism and young people with left or liberal views. Of course, it's Dostoevsky's skill as a writer that avoids this.
Cyber Nations - Kick the Dog: Pacifica had a habit of enforcing Perma-ZI on those who had 'offended' its leadership. The postwar terms dictated by said leadership after a GW were also known to be on a Versailles-level of draconic humiliation. The pillaging of the True Neutral GPA, depending on who you talk to, was either this, a Moral Event Horizon, or an acceptable target getting what was long coming to them.
Useless Spleen - Getting hurt in the spleen is a sort of long-term Running Gag in Sluggy Freelance. It's more than just mentioned in a parody of Kill Bill, in which Bun-bun is killing telemarketers, and he's shown holding a spleen that he says one of them "dropped".
Trek Verse - The Dominion: The Empire from another part of space, set to take over our side of the galaxy. Sort of a mirror version of the Federation, as it is comprised of many races, but unified through military force, with its most visible members being the Vorta and Jem'Hadar. Much of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine revolves around the war with them, and the consequences of this arc are sometimes felt in the other series. They also get to be stand-ins for the evil of drugs, as their warriors are addicted to one to keep them in line.
Funny.GWAR - The movie "Lawn Jockey", where a racist family fires their black maid without realizing that she's in fact a Voodoo high priestess who curses their offensive lawn jockey ornament. They lie dead at its feet the next morning.
YMMV.Tom Ska - Acceptable Targets:
1. Pranksters, particularly Sam Pepper, hence "Epic Girlfriend Pranks".
2. Justin Bieber is shown as one in the Justin Beiber parodies.
3. In his vlogs, Bee Movie.
Twofer Token Minority - Jem and the Holograms (IDW): Jetta who is British and Black. She was white in the original cartoon but that was due to Executive Meddling. The executives wouldn't allow a Black villain but an Evil Brit one was fine. The comic combines her creator's original vision with the fact she is British in the cartoon.
IgnoredEpiphany.Live Action TV - Naked Chef's Jamie Oliver showed a group of ~~American~~ West Virginian school kids the basically inedible chicken parts go into their McNuggets and they still wanted to eat them. A follow-up article revealed the kids also rejected his healthy lunch for their usual pizza and soda, although they said they'll still try new foods so that's something. (Then again, the fact that we decree any part of a chicken inedible, when one clearly can eat it, is more than a little elitist.)
Funny.Soviet Womble - Womble: "Wait, hang on, he's with the Daily Mail!" [opens fire]
SFDebris.Tropes G To L - Idiot Plot: Invoked Not Chuck himself, but he WILL rip into any episode that does have one, especially if Kenneth Biller had anything to do with it. His review of the early season seven Voyager episode "Repression" is especially brutal for Chuck deconstructing why its plot about a rogue Bajoran vedek somehow managing to hack a Project Pathfinder transmission to Voyager, a recording of Tuvok's son, so he could subliminally activate brainwashing he did to Tuvok years before, so Tuvok can in turn brainwash the rest of the Maquis crew via Vulcan mind meld (which it has never been able to do before) into reverting into their pre-series selves as Maquis freedom fighters and restart the Maquis and fight the Cardassians, is brutal (bear in mind this episode takes place only a year or two after the end of the Dominion War, which left the Cardassian Union a shattered husk of its former, and Voyager is still stuck in the Delta Quadrant where they can't meaningfully do anything about it anyway).
Dude, Not Funny! - Willingham: "Oh, who the fuck am I offending?! The Nazis?!"
Flight of the Conchords - The main plot of the episode "Drive By" gears up towards a "xenophobia/racism is bad" aesop, with Bret and Jemaine being picked on because they are from New Zealand, to the point of having to sit in the back of the bus. In the end though, the aesop turns out to be xenophobia is bad, unless it's against people from Australia.

MOD EDIT: This thread's scope covers Acceptable Targets' subtropes in addition to Acceptable Targets itself. The full list:

Acceptable Targets

This thread does not cover Unacceptable Targets as a wick check determined it was not necessary.

MOD EDIT: Copying the wick checks from the previous TRS thread here for reference purposes regarding usage. Note that it does not cover Unacceptable Targets or Once Acceptable Targets because that thread only covered Acceptable Targets and the Acceptable X Targets subtropes.

Wick check for Acceptable Targets and sub tropes (in folders due covering multiple tropes).

Acceptable Targets: 2474+132(redirect) wicks, 23,038 inbounds

Wick Check

1. YMMY.My Little Pony Meets: Work, not audience opinion (WNAO)
2. YMMV.Puella Magi Madoka Magica: WNAO
3. YMMV.Raiders Of The Lost Ark: Valid audience opinion (Nazi’s who’ s acceptability is it’s own trope.
4. YMMV.Megas XLR: 2 WNAO and one I’d say valid (the DMV) if not ZCE on if it’s work or audience opinion or why it’s acceptable, so I’d say misuse
5. YMMV.Mother: Saying a work is an Acceptable Target which seems a misuse (about persons) and it “has ‘’not’’ gone well with the older fans” arguing against it
6. YMMV.Charlie And The Chocolate Factory: 1 WNAO and one valid (snobby rich, though it sounds like their portrayal as opposed to rich in general or why it would be an unacceptable portrayal for anyone else)
7. YMMV.Rebecca Black: Valid
8. YMMV.Twitter: Valid, but notes it’s only so a certain group
9. YMMV.Lily Orchard: WNAO and that they received backlash over it argues the opposite
10. YMMV.Life Is Strange: WNAO
11. YMMV.Louis CK: creator’s WNAO
12. YMMV.Littlest Pet Shop A World Of Our Own: WNAO
13. YMMV.Looney Tunes: Valid (Hitler)
14. YMMV.Mars Attacks: WNAO
15. YMMV.Mobile Suit Gundam SEED: Valid (racist and misogynist)
16. YMMV.Modern Warfare: Valid (Russians and Arabs to American media) but noted elsewhere under Once Acceptable Targets
17. YMMV.Mobile Fighter G Gundam: Valid (national stereotypes, though that works because Refuge in Audacity as opposed to seriously treating them as acceptable)
18. WebVideo.My Little Pony Totally Legit Recap: WNAO and fits Creator's Pest or Designated Monkey better
19. WebVideo.Save State Gamer Invoked in-universe (IIN), valid
20. WebVideo.Ultra Fast Pony: IIN, valid
21. YMMV.Jack Ryan: WNAO
22. YMMV.Irredeemable: WNAO, would be (white supermisists) if it explained how it was accepted out of universe
23. YMMV.Joker 2019: 1 WNAO one well-explained valid (late night comedy show host, but that’s it’s the only time I’ve seen them targeted so is it common enough to count? And he’s also listed as Unintentionally Sympathetic and his murder is treated as the Joker going further over the line)
24. YMMV.Josh Scorcher: WNAO
25. YMMV.Kamen Rider Wizard: WNAO
26. YMMV.Kung Fu Panda Legends Of Awesomeness: WNAO
27. YMMV.Kingsman The Secret Service: relies on redirects to Acceptable Target sub-tropes, WNAO otherwise
28. YMMV.Cracked: WNAO
29. YMMV.Deadpool: WNAO
30. YMMV.Death Battle: WNAO
31. YMMV.Dead Rising 2: WNAO
32. YMMV.Daybreak 2019: WNAO
33. YMMV.Dan And Mabs Furry Adventures: WNAO
34. YMMV.Cyanide And Happiness: WNAO
35. YMMV.Curse Of Snakes Valley: Valid as it note it was acceptable at the time, but ZCE
36. YMMV.Doom: Nazis, valid, but fails to not the audience reaction part
37. YMMV.Dorkly Originals: WNAO
38. YMMV.Dogma: WNAO (could work as an in-universe)
39. Diary of a Wimpy Kid: WNAO
40. YMMV.Digibro: WNAO
41. YMMV.Devil May Cry 5: pothole, valid but nothing of value would be lost by cutting
42. YMMV.Detroit Become Human: WNAO as written, ZCE otherwise
43. YMMV.Despicable Me: WNAO and can be moved to Take That!
44. YMMV.Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire: WNAO
45. YMMV.Happy Wheels: Valid (the works fans and user generated content “sees Justin Bieber like this”), but is it troping the the work or the fans?
46. YMMV.Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex: WNAO
47. YMMV.Family Guy S 4 E 27 The Griffin Family History: WNAO
48. YMMV.Earthworm Jim: WNAO
49. YMMV.Incredibles 2: WNAO
50. YMMV.Assassination Classroom: WNAO

Only 16 (14 discounting in-universe) out of 50 examples are valid as audience reactions. And all 16 are either such common targets (like Nazis) it’s its own trope, against RL people pushing ROCEJ, or have issues that make them suspect.

Acceptable Ethnic Targets: 148 wicks, 2,045 inbounds

Wick Check

1. YMMV.Back To The Future: Work, not audience opinion (WNAO), but the targets (Libyans) were this at the time
2. YMMV.Call Of Cthulhu Masks Of Nyarlathotep: WNAO
3. YMMV.Ralph Breaks The Internet: WNAO
4. YMMV.Red Dead Redemption: WNAO and note it got possible backlash over it the opposite of this
5. YMMV.Sherlock Holmes A Game Of Shadows: ZCE, looks like WNAO
6. YMMV.Saints Row 1: WNAO
7. YMMV.Sliders: WNAO
8. Idiot Houdini: in-universe, valid
9. YMMV.The Hunchback Of Notre Dame: WNAO, they (Gypsies) were at the time, but states one still gets a positive portrayal arguing against
10. YMMV.The Tenth Kingdom: WNAO and audience backlash over it
11. YMMV.Tom Clancy: WNAO and more than half of it sarges he doesn’t treat them like this
12. LookBehindYou.Western Animation: pothole, might have been valid (a guard in a turban) once
13. YMMV.The Ten Thousand: WNAO as written, might have been valid (East Germans) once
14. YMMV.The State: ZCE and WNAO
15. YMMV.Thirty Rock: valid (“would be borderline bigotry if they were about a different, more marginalized ethnic group”), but that sound like accusing it of Dude, Not Funny! otherwise which is IUEO
16. WesternAnimation.Ugly Americans: pothole ZCE
17. YMMV.Caddyshack: WNAO
18. YMMV.Blazing Saddles: nots they were once valid
19. Quotes.Star Wars The Old Republic: in-universe, valid
20. YMMV.Aventures: 2 WNAO, Dwarves are valid and WNAO with the validity ZCE as to why
21. Final Fantasy VII: The Sevening: WNAO
22. YMMV.Hells Kitchen: WNAO
23. YMMV.Die Hard: Valid (Nazi) but fails to explain the audience reaction
24. YMMV.How To Get Away With Murder: WNAO
25. YMMV.Michael Jacksons Ghosts: WNAO
26. YMMV.JAG: WNAO
27. YMMV.Lethal Weapon: WNAO
28. YMMV.Jersey Shore: WNAO
29. YMMV.Snow Dogs: Valid, would’t have gotten away with it otherwise
30. Nip and Tuck: WNAO
31. YMMV.In Bruges: WNAO
32. Recap.Law And Order S 11 E 12 Teenage Wasteland: in-universe, valid
33. Characters.Game Of Thrones Tyrion Lannister: in-universe, valid
34. YMMV.Drag Me To Hell: WNAO
35. YMMV.Death Note Abridged Stacked Sugar Cubes: WNAO
36. YMMV.Dangerous Minds: WNAO
37. YMMV.Criminal Minds Beyond Borders: WNAO
38. YMMV.Bowfinger: WNAO and subversion which YMMV can’t be
39. YMMV.Caucasia: WNAO
40. YMMV.Daughter Of Shanghai: WNAO, but notes they (white people) were surprising for the time
41. FridgeBrilliance.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Season 1: Pothole that can be cut without loss
42. Funny.Family Guy Seasons13to 18: In-universe, valid
43. Red-Headed Stepchild: Valid (red-heads) but the sentence can be cut without losing anything important
44. YMMV.Chuggaaconroy: WNAO
45. YMMV.Rebelde Way: WNAO or in-universe
46. YMMV.QI: WNAO and Values Dissonance
47. YMMV.No Tears For The Dead: WNAO or in-universe
48. YMMV.Network: WNAO or in-universe
49. YMMV.Tales Of Monkey Island: WNAO
50. YMMV.Steelgrip Starkey And The All Purpose Power Tool: WNAO

Only 14 (9 discounting in-univsere) out of 50 valid, and are either common targets or in-universe.

Acceptable Hard Luck Targets: 37 wicks, 523 inbounds

Wick Check

1. YMMV.Drawn Together: Work, not audience opinion (WNAO)
2. YMMV.Ultimate Crossover Roleplay: WNAO
3. YMMV.Stargate Atlantis: WNAO
4. YMMV.Vegan Artbook: WNAO
5. YMMV.JAG: WNAO subversion
6. YMMV.Kill Me Baby: ZCE looks WNAO
7. YMMV.Lab Rats: WNAO
8. YMMV.Maury: WNAO
9. YMMV.Popular: WNAO
10. YMMV.Pondus: WNAO
11. YMMV.Mental Cast: WNAO
12. YMMV.Rupauls Drag Race: WNAO
13. YMMV.Sekirei: WNAO
14. YMMV.Weird Al Yankovic: WNAO
15. YMMV.West Of Eden: WNAO
16. Literature.Promise Of A Future: In-universe, valid

ALL of the non in-universe are misused.

Acceptable Hobby Targets: 46 wicks, 860 inbounds

Wick Check

1. YMMV.Animorphs: Work, not audience opinion (WNAO) and backlash against it
2. YMMV.Anime Crimes Division: WNAO
3. YMMV.Dear Children: ZCE, in-universe
4. YMMV.At Midnight: WNAO
5. YMMV.Jim Rome Is Burning: WNAO or in-universe valid
6. YMMV.Larry Leadhead: WNAO
7. YMMV.Mighty No 9: backlash over it arguing against
8. YMMV.Rabi Ribi: WNAO
9. YMMV.Pogeymanz: WNAO
10. YMMV.Moville Mysteries: In-universe valid
11. YMMV.The Book Of Henry: WNAO or in-universe valid
12. YMMV.Yacht Rock: WNAO
13. YMMV.Tolarian Community College: WNAO that’s a Take That!
14. YMMV.The Guild: WNAO
15. YMMV.The Big Bang Theory: WNAO and backlash against
16. YMMV.Tales Of The Fox: WNAO
17. YMMV.Superstore: WNAO or in-universe valid

ALL of the non in-universe are misused.

Acceptable Political Targets: 220 wicks, 4275 inbounds

Wick Check

1. YMMV.A Dance To The Music Of Time: Work, not audience opinion (WNAO)
2. YMMV.A Dream: WNAO
3. YMMV.American History X: WNAO pothole
4. YMMV.American Horror Story Cult: WNAO
5. YMMV.Animorphs: Valid but own trope (Right-Wing Militia Fanatic)
6. YMMV.Arsene Lupin: Valid at the time
7. YMMV.BZRK: Valid (Hitler)
8. YMMV.You Cant Do That On Television: WNAO
9. YMMV.Whose Line Is It Anyway: WNAO
10. YMMV.What If Gordon Banks Had Played: WNAO
11. YMMV.Upstairs Downstairs: WNAO
12. YMMV.Vacanta Mare: WNAO
13. YMMV.Vote Loki: WNAO
14. YMMV.Warrior Nun Areala: Valid pothole (Nazis)
15. YMMV.Top Gear UK: WNAO pothole
16. YMMV.Truncated Power Rangers: WNAO or in-universe
17. YMMV.Twisted Kaiju Theater: WNAO
18. YMMV.Uncanny X Men 2013: WNAO
19. YMMV.The Three Stooges: Valid (Nazis)
20. Recap.The West Wing S 02 E 18 Seventeen People: In-universe, valid
21. YMMV.The X Files I Want To Believe: WNAO
22. YMMV.Top Gear UK: WNAO pothole
23. YMMV.The Boondocks: WNAO
24. YMMV.The Daily Show With Trevor Noah: WNAO
25. YMMV.The Front: WNAO and notes it was 16 years after it became valid
26. YMMV.The Goon Show: WNAO
27. YMMV.The Great Wall: WNAO
28. YMMV.The Longest Journey Saga: WNAO
29. YMMV.The Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour: WNAO
30. YMMV.The Naked Gun: WNAO
31. YMMV.The News Quiz: WNAO
32. YMMV.The Now Show: WNAO
33. YMMV.Steve Ditko: WNAO
34. YMMV.Tendies Stories: WNAO
35. YMMV.That Was The Week That Was: WNAO as is but notes it’s when they started being valid
36. YMMV.The Absent Minded Professor: WNAO
37. YMMV.The Blues Brothers: Valid (Nazis), can be moved to in-universe
38. YMMV.Reaction And Review: Valid (Nazis), WNAO otherwise
39. YMMV.Santa Clarita Diet: WNAO
40. YMMV.Source Fed: WNAO
41. YMMV.South Park S 8 E 8 Douche And Turd: WNAO
42. YMMV.Star Trek Online: WNAO
43. YMMV.Stephen King: WNAO
44. YMMV.Nick Spencers Captain America: WNAO
45. YMMV.Not The Nine O Clock News: WNAO
46. YMMV.Pans Labyrinth: WNAO is, might be valid
47. YMMV.Phineas And Ferb: WNAO noted to also be Take That!
48. YMMV.Powerless 2017: WNAO
50. CodexEquus.Tropes A To B: In-universe, valid

Only 12 (9 discounting in-univsere) out of 50 valid. Many of the WNAO are recent political ones that push ROCEJ, arguing this trope should be No Real Life Examples, Please!

Acceptable Professional Targets: 161 wicks, 1878 inbounds

Wick Check

1. YMMV.Vegan Artbook: Work, not audience opinion (WNAO)
2. YMMV.Hey Arnold The Jungle Movie: Valid (poaching and tomb-robbing) but those have their own trope and are illegal things professions?
3. YMMV.Independence Day: In-Universe, valid
4. YMMV.A Lost Letter: WNAO
5. YMMV.Animat Planet Show
6. YMMV.Benoit Brisefer: WNAO
7. YMMV.Belisarius Series: WNAO
8. YMMV.Batman The Animated Series: WNAO
9. YMMV.Barney Bunch: WNAO
10. YMMV.Avengers Vs X Men: WNAO
11. YMMV.Yonderland: WNAO
12. YMMV.The Firm: WNAO and the target (lawyers) have their own trope
13. YMMV.The Incredibles: Valid as staff begged to be on the scene, can be moved to Funny.The Incredibles
14. YMMV.The Loved One: WNAO
15. YMMV.The Simpsons S 4 E 21 Marge In Chains: In-universe valid (lawyers)
16. YMMV.Tintin: WNAO
17. YMMV.Sequential Art: WNAO
18. YMMV.Shallow Grave: WNAO
19. YMMV.Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey: Valid (Private Military Contractor) but ZCE as to why
20. YMMV.Smallville: In-universe, valid
21. YMMV.Tennis Shoes Adventure Series: In-universe, valid
22. YMMV.The Cat Lady: WNAO
23. YMMV.Paparazzi: Character listed as a Designated Hero for it so argues agains
24. YMMV.Persona 5: WNAO
25. YMMV.Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Spirit Of Justice: WNAO or in-universe valid
26. YMMV.Producing Parker: In-universe valid
27. YMMV.Queer As Folk: WNAO
28. YMMV.Saga: WNAO or in-universe valid
29. YMMV.Sangatsu No Lion: WNAO or in-universe valid
30. YMMV.Numberphile: Creator WNAO
31. YMMV.Oystein Sunde: WNAO
32. YMMV.Law And Order: WNAO
33. YMMV.In Treatment: WNAO or in-universe valid
34. YMMV.Hitman 2016: Valid (lawyers)
35. YMMV.Hitman 2: Valid and in-universe, but all redundant with Asshole Victim
36. YMMV.Chick Tracts: WNAO
37. YMMV.Cheap Show: WNAO
38. YMMV.Charlie And The Chocolate Factory: WNAO
39. YMMV.Cellular: WNAO
40. YMMV.Brooklyn Tide: WNAO
41. YMMV.Blood Rites: WNAO
42. YMMV.Big Daddy: WNAO or valid in-universe
43. YMMV.Benoit Brisefer: WNAO
44. YMMV.Devil Fish: WNAO
45. YMMV.Destroy All Humans: WNAO
46. YMMV.Dear Children: WNAO
47. YMMV.Daemon: WNAO
48. YMMV.Crazy Ex Girlfriend: WNAO
49. YMMV.Costume Quest: WNAO
50. YMMV.Cold Case: WNAO

Only 15 (5 discounting in-univsere) out of 50 valid.

Acceptable Religious Targets: 128 wicks, 4985 inbounds

Wick Check

1. YMMV.Chick Tracts: Work, not audience opinion (WNAO)
2. YMMV.Cold Case: WNAO
3. YMMV.Aunt Dimity: WNAO
4. YMMV.Arads Stardust: WNAO pothole
5. YMMV.Aqua Teen Hunger Force: pothole under Unintentionally Sympathetic arguing against
6. YMMV.Angela Anaconda: WNAO
7. YMMV.Carrie: WNAO
8. YMMV.Californication: WNAO
9. YMMV.Blur The Lines: WNAO
10. YMMV.Biloxi Blues: ZCE looks WNAO
11. YMMV.Bad Hair Day: WNAO
12. YMMV.Aventures: WNAO or in-universe valid
13. YMMV.Detroit Rock City: WNAO
14. YMMV.Death Note Temporary Insanity: ZCE looks WNAO
15. YMMV.Cult Of Dusty: WNAO
16. YMMV.Disenchantment: WNAO
17. YMMV.Diary Of A Badman: WNAO
18. YMMV.Life Of Pi: WNAO or in-universe valid
19. YMMV.Hellsing Ultimate Abridged: WNAO
20. YMMV.Grand Theft Auto: WNAO
21. YMMV.Glenn Martin DDS: WNAO
22. YMMV.Gilgamesh The Immortal: Might be valid in-universe
23. YMMV.Four Lions: Played with which YMMV can’t be
24. YMMV.Robotboy: WNAO
25. YMMV.Red Dwarf Season III The Last Day: WNAO
26. YMMV.Real Time With Bill Maher: WNAO
27. YMMV.Preacher: Possibly valid but ZCE
28. YMMV.Orson Scott Cards Empire: WNAO
29. YMMV.Oracle Of Tao: WNAO
30. YMMV.North: WNAO
31. YMMV.Nineteen Kids And Counting: Valid out of universe, against RL individuals, ROCEJ?
32. YMMV.Newsflesh: Doesn’t explain how they’re targets of scorn in or out of universe
33. YMMV.The Duchess Of Malfi: WNAO
34. YMMV.The Departed: WNAO
35. YMMV.The Burkiss Way: WNAO
36. YMMV.Superjail: WNAO or in-universe valid
37. YMMV.Star Trek The Eugenics Wars: WNAO
38. YMMV.Venus Envy: Played with which YMMV can’t be
39. YMMV.Villette: Seems valid out of universe
40. YMMV.Worlds Dumbest: WNAO
41. YMMV.The Venture Brothers: WNAO
42. YMMV.The Sookie Stackhouse Mysteries: WNAO an not an analog to a RL target
43. YMMV.Two Thousand Maniacs: dropped in final product arguing against
44. YMMV.The Hot Topic Krew: WNAO
45. YMMV.The Iron Sheik: WNAO
46. YMMV.The Jewish Americans: Valid (Jews) as RL history
47. YMMV.The Mist: WNAO
48. YMMV.The Savage Eye: WNAO
49. YMMV.Silent Hill: state it was done for other reasons and changed back
50. VideoGame.EVE Online: pothole that doesn’t explain why

Only 8 (4 discounting in-univsere) out of 50 valid.

Final tally: out of 283 total, only 41 non in-universe examples are valid audience opinions as opposed to the works/creators opinion. An 85.5% misuse. Joker (2019), Thirty Rock, Snow Dogs, 19 Kids and Counting, Villette, and The Jewish Americans are the only 5 that don’t fall under another trope and properly explain it as an audience reaction with enough objective history or explanation to avoid any ROCEJ.

Edited by Tabs on Feb 7th 2023 at 1:46:31 AM

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#26: Jan 31st 2023 at 9:36:30 AM

Hooked the crowner I drafted last night. As I previously mentioned, we're not doing anything with Unacceptable Targets, so only Acceptable Targets, the Acceptable X Targets subtropes, and Once Acceptable Targets are covered.

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#27: Jan 31st 2023 at 12:01:26 PM

Sorry to triple post, but since this is kind of a large project, I'm going to set the minimum amount of time until calling the crowner to five days instead of three days, and I'll try to bump the ATT bulletin each day until then. The crowner hasn't been particularly unstable, but I think the crowner could use a bit more time since larger crowners (particularly for batch threads like this one) don't accumulate votes as quickly as smaller ones (as I learned with the Wiki Tropes crowners about a year ago), so the options might need a bit more time to build up consensus.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 31st 2023 at 2:01:48 PM

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#28: Jan 31st 2023 at 12:16:02 PM

to converting.

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#29: Jan 31st 2023 at 3:35:48 PM

It turns out I accidentally linked to Going to Be One of Those Days in the ATT bulletin for this. That's been fixed; that might be why the crowner didn't get as much attention as I hoped, rather than it being a batch thread.

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#30: Feb 1st 2023 at 2:22:49 AM

Since I didn't see any stability issues with the crowner, I'm going to reduce the minimum amount of time to call the crowner back down from five to three because it seems that the problem was that, due to an oversight when copying and pasting a previous bulletin as a template, I mentioned the wrong page in the ATT bulletin (since I accidentally mentioned Going to Be One of Those Days instead of Acceptable Targets) rather than this being a batch thread. I might still bump the bulletin again as I previously mentioned, though.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 1st 2023 at 4:23:14 AM

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#31: Feb 2nd 2023 at 4:59:59 AM

Convert Acceptable Targets and, if there is not consensus to redirect/merge them with Acceptable Targets, Acceptable Ethnic Targets, Acceptable Hard Luck Targets, Acceptable Hobby Targets, Acceptable Political Targets, Acceptable Professional Targets, and Acceptable Religious Targets into objective tropes for works treating targets as acceptable (note that all of these are already No Real Life Examples, Please!)

This is an impressively convoluted Garden Path Sentence.

The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable

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#32: Feb 2nd 2023 at 3:07:50 PM

Maybe I could have just put "redirect the Acceptable [subject] Targets subtropes" instead of listing them individually, but oh well. The fact that the votes are mostly going in one may might mean it could have been worse, though.

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#33: Feb 2nd 2023 at 9:59:48 PM

Calling in favor of the following:

Convert Acceptable Targets into an index for tropes about specific targets (such as Burger Fool and Evil Lawyer Joke); the conversion into an index would mean removing the YMMV banner
Redirect/merge Acceptable Ethnic Targets, Acceptable Hard Luck Targets, Acceptable Hobby Targets, Acceptable Political Targets, Acceptable Professional Targets, and Acceptable Religious Targets into Acceptable Targets (if Acceptable Targets is made into an index, they will be redirects to the index, and if tropes about specific in-work targets exist, examples will be moved there if they fit).
Redirect Once Acceptable Targets to Values Dissonance

I'm not going to do the redirecting right now (especially in case anyone wants to translate in-work examples to more fitting tropes), and we need to come up with a list of tropes to put on Acceptable Targets once it's turned into an index, but I'll post notices on all the discussion pages, and these courses of action can be done when people think it's time.

Edit: All right, I posted the notices. The first two bullet points (turning Acceptable Targets into an index for specific targets, and redirecting the Acceptable X Targets pages to Acceptable Targets itself) means removing the YMMV indexing for those pages, but Once Acceptable Targets will still have a YMMV tag because being a redirect to a a YMMV page means it'll have to be added to YMMV Redirects.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 2nd 2023 at 12:03:27 PM

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#34: Feb 4th 2023 at 3:44:15 AM

I made Sandbox.Acceptable Targets to draft the index, and I ended up wondering a few things toward the end:

Toward the end of writing it, I started to wonder if acting as a super-index to various stereotype indexes would be better than listing individual tropes.
For the originally planned version, which does list individual tropes, I grabbed negative stereotypes from what ended up being the stereotype indexes that I figured we'd list if we turned this into a super-index, though I wondered if there are some things to remove, and if it might be worth coming through other indexes for tropes for negative stereotypes and mean-spirited jokes if we go with the option of listing individual tropes instead of having this as a super-index. I already listed The War on Straw as a sub-index because of its nature.

Note that the index probably isn't done, either way. My arm is cramped from working on it, plus I'm kind of worn out and disoriented because I'm currently sick and it's early in the morning, so I'm stopping here for now.

Edit from a bit later: You know, I'm leaning toward going with option 2 (listing separate indexes that contain the targets instead of listing individual targets) because that would be simpler, and figuring out what to list would be significantly less work. I'll still leave the drafts for both options up for now to see if anyone can provide feedback.

Edit from a bit later after a bit later: Eh... I'm just going to go with the super-index idea since it's simpler, and since this thread has been kind of sluggish, so getting feedback might take a while, especially if we went with the bigger option.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 4th 2023 at 6:15:44 AM

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#35: Feb 4th 2023 at 4:33:39 AM

OK, posting because Acceptable Targets is now officially a super-index to indexes that contain targets (since I figured it would be redundant to duplicate tropes on those indexes), and I updated the indexing for the page itself.

We'll need to clean up the Acceptable X Targets subtropes and redirect them to Acceptable Targets, and we'll need to clean up Once Acceptable Targets and redirect it to Values Dissonance (and add Once Acceptable Targets to YMMV Redirects). I'm not going to handle that now, but since Acceptable Targets is now an index, feel free to go ahead with it. I'm not going to link to the Related pages because there are so many pages to go through the Related pages of, so the to-do list in the header should be sufficient.

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#36: Feb 4th 2023 at 6:04:35 AM

Sorry for making so many posts in a row, but posting because I went ahead and turned the Acceptable X Targets pages into redirects to Acceptable Targets along with redirecting Once Acceptable Targets to Values Dissonance (and adding Once Acceptable Targets to YMMV Redirects) because I didn't see anything to move (particularly because the Acceptable X Targets subtropes were NRLEP before they were redirected, but still mostly contained real life stuff, usually general examples, because the previous TRS thread stalled after making them NLREP).

Now we just need to dewick everything:

Related page for Acceptable Targets (plus the list of redirects to dewick).
Related page for Once Acceptable Targets (plus the Related page for the Once Acceptable Target redirect, which itself now redirects to Values Dissonance)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 4th 2023 at 8:38:30 AM

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001

#37: Feb 4th 2023 at 7:48:31 AM

Here's a sandbox for collecting examples that don't have their own "negative stereotypical portrayal" tropes yet: Negative Depictions Sandbox

I will paste the section descriptions (e.g. "If you see an accountant in fiction, chances are they're dull, boring, and completely structured, being unable to relax or think outside the box...") later.

Remember TLP-ing new tropes and (sub)indexes is free!

Discussion for context: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16749697730.54005700#comment-7

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#38: Feb 4th 2023 at 8:36:11 AM

Before this gets locked.

I really don’t wanna write this.

But, I really hate how this process becomes extremely laziness, as I'm seeing this. And this saying is from a person, who is half-ban for six years. I thought this could be better.

As, I see a similar result of tropes in those forums, that were meant to get help.

Instead, get either lazy via instant delete or merged as not the final choice or comes out as oversimplified. In half or little justification of how to do a favor for those choices. But not truly reworked from the ground up?

Edited by Franco-America2018 on Feb 4th 2023 at 10:11:21 AM

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#39: Feb 4th 2023 at 8:57:25 AM

Because when we have a very old trope with very old problems, people don't favor keeping it. "Reworking from the ground up" is the Launch Pad's job when the decision is made.

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#40: Feb 4th 2023 at 9:26:53 AM

This grammar is so bad I really don't understand what the post is trying to say besides complaining.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup

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#41: Feb 4th 2023 at 4:41:42 PM

I agree. It's too late to overturn the decision, and "I don't like the outcome" is never a valid reason to overturn a decision anyway.

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#42: Feb 4th 2023 at 7:14:49 PM

Which is it. You can or can't understand me.

Yea, but a least you should keep only the neutrally worded entries from the now redirect/merge pages to the other pages within the trope indexes; if these are associated with different tropes in mind.

Edited by Franco-America2018 on Feb 4th 2023 at 11:37:36 AM

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#43: Feb 4th 2023 at 7:36:01 PM

They've already made the final decision about what to do with this trope. Amonimus was saying that he could only figure out your displeasure, but nothing much beyond that, on account of your grammar. Is there a different language you might be more comfortable in, for ease of communication?

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#44: Feb 4th 2023 at 7:46:33 PM

Let's get back on track and work on cleaning up the wicks so I don't have to start thumping further complaints about how the thread went (which I will do if the complaints continue).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 4th 2023 at 9:47:10 AM

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#45: Feb 4th 2023 at 8:36:23 PM

Thumped: This post was thumped by the Stick of Off-Topic Thumping. Stay on topic, please.

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#46: Feb 5th 2023 at 2:22:27 AM

Suspended Franco-America2018 from workshops for being disruptive.

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#47: Feb 5th 2023 at 7:01:59 PM

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Feb 5th 2023 at 7:03:34 AM

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#48: Feb 7th 2023 at 11:47:07 AM

Haven't seen any cleanup of Acceptable Targets and sub-wicks. Is there a reason for that or can we get to removing them yet.

Any objections to adding this to Wick Cleaning Projects?

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#49: Feb 7th 2023 at 11:48:04 AM

You can get to removing them, projects like this just tend to stagnate in the wick removal phase. We always need one person to make the go-ahead.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001

#50: Feb 7th 2023 at 1:33:27 PM

Does Take That! cover real life things? Its description, laconic, and indices indicate no, but otherwise we don't seem to have a work-makes-potshot parent trope.

Trope Repair Shop: Acceptable Targets

31st Jan '23 9:33:19 AM

Crown Description:

Acceptable Targets and its various subtropes are supposed to be about groups of people that society deems acceptable to make fun of. However, the usage suffers from a few major issues. Acceptable Targets is both a ZCE magnet and a pothole magnet. Those two categories alone made up over half the wicks, and that's only counting the entries that had no examples with context at all. There are several other entries with ZCEs but have at least one example with context, which I put in the appropriate category for that example. The vast majority of examples that do have context don't talk about how the group is acceptable to make fun of and are therefore redundant with Take That. The few that do are generally hypotheticals. The examples don't show the audience's perspective either, which is unacceptable because the tropes are YMMV. In addition, a lot of examples are about targets works portray as acceptable, and Acceptable Targets and its subtropes (except for Once Acceptable Targets and Unacceptable Targets, which are not NRLEP) are No Real Life Examples Please.

What should be done with Acceptable Targets, the Acceptable X Targets subtropes, and Once Acceptable Targets? Note that this thread does not cover Unacceptable Targets.

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Needs Help: Acceptable Targets

To-do list:

Original post:

Wick check for this thread:

MOD EDIT: This thread's scope covers Acceptable Targets' subtropes in addition to Acceptable Targets itself. The full list:

MOD EDIT: Copying the wick checks from the previous TRS thread here for reference purposes regarding usage. Note that it does not cover Unacceptable Targets or Once Acceptable Targets because that thread only covered Acceptable Targets and the Acceptable X Targets subtropes.