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Welcome to the new Complete Monster (CM) cleanup thread! This thread is where we clean up or cut already-existing entries.

If you're looking to add new entries, please see the approval thread.

IMPORTANT: Before you begin any discussions on this thread, please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List. Here, you'll find explanations of the criteria for the trope as well as our rules/procedures for approving and cutting candidates.

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  • If an entry was put on the wrong subpage/YMMV page, you may propose where they should be moved to.
  • Full rewrites of existing entries, including expansions, trims, and ground-up rewrites. If your rewrite is approved by the thread, feel free to add it to the drafts page so that other users can check grammar and the like before it is included with the rest of the weekly swaps.
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As a final note, we do not care what other sites have to say regarding whether or not a character counts. We have our own criteria and they have theirs for their CM equivalents; while they are similar, they are not exactly the same and should not be treated as such. Another site removing a character from their equivalent should not be a reason why a cut is proposed here, and if this is the case, it will likely lead to mod intervention.

Other than this, once again, welcome to the cleanup thread, and we look forward to your contributions!


Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 14th 2024 at 11:30:03 AM

Revenant30 Since: Sep, 2023
#13176: Apr 13th 2024 at 10:19:16 AM

Found this on Vacancy

  • Even Evil Has Standards: As much as the sadistic psychopath that he is, Mason appears to be genuinely saddened by the deaths of his friends, hence his rage towards Amy, though that could be because he can only relate to others like him.

Now, I've recently saw the movie and actually Mason looks a bit saddened by the killers'death though it's hard to tell if that's because he cared for them or he's frustrated that he lost his potential "actors" for his snuff movies.

Maybe you can judge better.

EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Not the Eye
#13177: Apr 13th 2024 at 11:56:16 AM

Gonna wait for somebody who has seen movie to comment.

On small note, I looked up on my writeup for Legends version of Agruss since I proposed Fanfic version of him today and noticed I misspelled name of the planet his facility is placed on as Kavado, when is actually Kadavo. So it should be corrected.

On sligthly bigger note, The Half-Titan Bloodline from which I proposed Belos has been uncanceled and chapter in which Belos is defeated was released yesterday. Would anybody mind me doing small update on his status and entry now or to wait two weeks for it?

Edited by EmperorGeode on Apr 13th 2024 at 11:57:03 AM

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Not the Eye
#13180: Apr 13th 2024 at 12:44:25 PM

So short story short, Belos engages army of Witches and Demons led by Luz and others with his own army of fleshy monsters and giant mecha he created. He briefly kills Luz by turning her into statue and trying to destroy her body in front of her family and friends before she return to life and brings Evelyn with her, after which he is beaten and Evelyn casts liquefy curse on him once again, this time killing him for good. Obviously no mitigating qualities poped up.

  • The Half-Titan Bloodline: Belos returns and proves himself as depraved as ever. Once just Philip Wittebane, bigoted Witch Hunter, who killed his brother Caleb for falling in love with a witch after failing to kill his pregnant wife, Belos goes on to commit his canon crimes before being revived by his descendant Alethea. Belos sets out to restart his genocidal crusade against witchkind by blowing up the castle of the Boiling Isles government and killing the survivors. Belos faces Luz, gloating about planning to murder her wife and daughter and being completely uncaring when he almost kills a 9-year-old girl. Belos plots to steal Azura's Titan powers to match Luz's and complete his genocide, threatening the lives of her loved ones to lure her to him. After absorbing Enzo's powers instead, Belos kills Luz's mother Camila and has his resurrected brother captured to force him to watch Belos's victory. Destroying the entire neighborhood in the Bonesborough to reconstruct his castle, Belos plots to fuse his essence with the planet and blow it up, before returning to the human world to continue his crusade against everybody he considers a sinner. When Luz leads the army to defeat him, Belos unleashes fleshy creatures on them, briefly killing Luz by petrifying her and almost destroys her body in front of her loved ones while mocking them about impending destruction of their world.

[down] Yes.

Edited by EmperorGeode on Apr 13th 2024 at 12:54:01 PM

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MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#13182: Apr 13th 2024 at 2:10:01 PM

Okay, following all my New Tricks' proposals, I've also gone back and do a few rewrites to my old writeups, as I felt they either were to narrative, missed key crimes, had some small inaccuracies or were just poorly written.

Present:

  • Ricky Hanson, the series's only recurring antagonist and Jack Halford's Arch-Enemy, is a mid-tier London Gangster described by Jack as "the biggest thieving, murdering, lying piece of shyte I've ever laid eyes upon." Taking over the "Twenty-Fours" in the 80's, Hanson used them as a front for his drug ring. When Ray Harris told him that two student activists had infiltrated his group, Hanson personally murdered them, then had their bodies hidden under Harris's conservatory, incriminating him. By 1996, Jack and Sandra Pullman were investigating Hanson for three murders, including that of his own brother. Realizing they were getting too close, Hanson ran over Jack's wife Mary, laughing as he did; it took two years for Mary's wounds to kill her. When his son, Luke, was wrongly accused of arson, Ricky abandoned him to nine years in prison to save himself, and also stole Luke's girlfriend. In "Congratulations", Ricky confessed to Jack he killed Mary, tormenting him with the details of the event. In "Casualty", Ricky tried to slowly run Jack over but was forced to flee. Sneaking into Jack's hospital, Hanson assaulted the nurse then almost smothered Jack. Interrupted by Brian Lane, Hanson tried to strangle him. In "The Last Laugh", when the reinvestigation into the student's disappearance led back to him, Hanson set his goons on Gerry's informant.
Rewrite:
  • Ricky Hanson, the series' only recurring antagonist and Jack Halford’s Arch-Enemy, is a cunning yet cruel and thuggish London Gangster. Taking over the “20-4’s” in the ’80s, Hanson used them as a front for his drug ring. Tipped off that two student activists had infiltrated them, Hanson personally gutted both with a knife, forcing Sarah to watch him murder her boyfriend before killing her, sent his skinheads to beat their friend near to death, and then incriminated his source. In 1996, realising Jack was onto him for three murders, including his brother Jim’s, Hanson ran over Jack’s wife Mary laughing as he did; it took two years for her wounds to kill her. Following his teenage son, Luke, being wrongfully convicted Hanson ensured Luke took the fall to protect himself, leaving Luke to rot in prison and stole his girlfriend. In "Congratulations", Ricky confesses to Jack he killed Mary, tormenting him with the details of the event. In "Casualty", Ricky tries to slowly run Jack over but is forced to flee. Sneaking into the hospital Hanson disabled a nurse and then almost smothered Jack. Interrupted by Brian Lane, Hanson tried to strangle him. In "The Last Laugh" Hanson sets his goons on Gerry's informant, beating Polish senseless and threatening to burn him alive if Gerry didn’t return the money he won from Hanson.
Present:
  • "Dark Chocolate": Alex Close was an immoral small-time businessman whose cleaning companies operated through exploiting and overworking illegal immigrants. Even viler in secret, Close was also a meticulous Serial Rapist who used his business's contracts to find victims. In 1992, he raped Jean Saunders at the chocolate factory where she worked, and then a few months later raped Eileen Harrison, permanently traumatizing her. Exposed for his abuse of illegal immigrants in 2001, Close fled the country to Poland. Returning nine years later, he started a new business, this time exploiting Polish immigrants, and immediately resumed his spree. Failing to get a bakery contract, the undeterred Close resorted to regularly going as a customer, until he knew the layout well enough to rape Helen Vestry.
Rewrite:
  • "Dark Chocolate": Alex Close was an immoral small-time businessman whose cleaning companies operated through exploiting and overworking illegal immigrants, Close deliberately kept them terrified so that he could squeeze every penny possible out of them. Also secretly a Serial Rapist, Close used his business's contracts to find victims, forcing one of his workers to scope them outfor him. In 1999, he raped Jean Saunders at the chocolate factory where she worked, and then a week later raped Eileen Harrison, permanently traumatizing her. Exposed for his abuse of illegal immigrants in 2001, Close fled the country to Poland raping an unknown number of women whilst abroad. Returning nine years later, he started a new business, this time exploiting Polish immigrants, and immediately resumed his spree. Failing to get a bakery contract, the undeterred Close resorted to regularly going as a customer, until he knew the layout well enough to rape Helen Vestry.
Present:
  • "Where There's Smoke": George Mackie was a talented and respected fire investigator who was privately a serial arsonist, claiming to having started 64 separate fires. He would place homemade firebombs in his targets, then turn up afterwards to analyze and bask in the praise he received for his "insight". In 1996, he burned the Union club to the ground, killing four people, including the club's owner, and causing seven hospitalizations. Shortly afterwards, Mackie retired and thus the fires stopped. UCOS's re-investigation into the Union fire inspiring him to come out of retirement, Mackie tracked down a survivor of the Union Club fire who had been left with third-degree burns over half his body and burned his home down. Later, he set another bomb in Stuart Russel's house, this one nearly killing him along with Jack, Brian and Gerry. Underneath all his charm and seeming helpfulness, Mackie was nothing more than a shameless Attention Whore, happy to commit wanton destruction and kill innocent people just to stroke his own ego.
Rewrite:
  • "Where There's Smoke": George Mackie was a talented and respected fire investigator who was privately a serial arsonist, claiming to having started 64 separate fires. He would place homemade firebombs in his targets, then turn up afterwards to bask in the praise he received for his analysis and "insight". In 1996, he burned the Union Club to the ground, killing four people and causing seven hospitalizations. Shortly afterwards, Mackie retired and thus the fires stopped. UCOS's re-investigation into the Union fire inspired him to come out of retirement, Mackie tracked down a survivor of the Union Club fire who had been left with agonising third-degree burns over half his body and attempted to kill him by setting his home alight. Later, he set another bomb in Stuart Russel's house, nearly killing him along with Jack, Brian and Gerry. Underneath all his charm and seeming helpfulness, Mackie was nothing more than a shameless Attention Whore, happy to commit wanton destruction and kill innocent people just to stroke his own ego.
Present:
  • "The Little Brother": Annabel Skinner is a former associate of the notorious Larry Goftman. Desiring Florence Epstein's money, Skinner seduced her husband Jonathan until he was under her spell. They tortured Florence's bank details out of her, before bludgeoning her to death with a hammer. No longer needing him, Skinner turned Jonathan over to the police. However, when Goftman double-crossed her and ran off with the money, Annabel vowed vengeance against him and Peter Sale, despite him not being involved in their plan and being cheated himself. She violently murdered Sale's sister Margaret Kirby and stole her identity. Six years later, after finding Goftman but being unable to find Sale, Skinner acquainted herself with Esther Lane. Playing the role of the caring sister, she set Brian on the trail to find Sale. Skinner than strangled Goftman, leaving his body for Brian to find. Finally finding Sale, Skinner eliminated the constable guarding him and tried to murder him. When Brian interrupted her, she tried to strangle him too. A manipulative violent sociopath, Skinner even described herself as "fundamentally nasty".
Rewrite:
  • "The Little Brother": Annabel Skinner is a manipulative, vicious sociopath who even described herself as "purely nasty." An associate of the notorious Larry Goftman desiring Florence Epstein's money, Skinner seduced her husband Jonathan, tortured Florence's bank details out of her and bludgeoned her to death with a hammer. No longer needing him, Skinner turned Jonathan over to the police. However, when Goftman double-crossed her and ran off with the money, Annabel vowed revenge against him and Peter Sale, despite Sale being just the accountant and cheated himself. Skinner brutally murdered Sale's sister Margaret Kirby and stole her identity. Six years later, after finding Goftman but being unable to find Sale, Skinner acquainted herself with Esther Lane. Playing the caring sister, she set Brian on the trail to find Sale then strangled Goftman, leaving his body for Brian to find. Finally finding Sale, Skinner eliminated the Constable on guard and tried to murder the disabled elderly Sale. When Brian interrupted her, she tried to strangle him as well.

Thoughts?

Edited by MGD107 on Apr 13th 2024 at 2:14:01 AM

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I’ll take a potato chip… and EAT IT!
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#13184: Apr 13th 2024 at 7:26:33 PM

I'm good with the Belos rewrite as well as the New Tricks ones.

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"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#13185: Apr 13th 2024 at 10:09:18 PM

On Marvel Video Games, is it okay if we fix the Wolverine's Revenge entry to link to its page X2: Wolverine's Revenge?

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#13187: Apr 14th 2024 at 5:53:03 AM

  • Ace Attorney Fan Works
  • Cyberpunk
  • Grand Theft Auto
  • Harry Potter Fan Works
  • Naruto Fan Works
  • Howard Lovecraft trilogy: Nyarlathotep, wicked as always, is the servant of Azathoth seeking to destroy Earth and other worlds for the Outer Gods. Nyarlathotep makes a deal with a future Lovecraft who would later go under the guise of Abdul Alhazred, in order to use the Necronomicon to resurrect Cthulhu also known as Thu Thu Hmong/Spot. In The Undersea Kingdom, Nyarlathotep helps Abdul in holding Lovecraft's parent hostage under the threat of death if he doesn't give them the Necronomicon, later burns Alhazred alive after growing tired of his failure. Returning in The Kingdom of Madness, Nyarlathotep succeeded and revives Cthulhu, who he has destroy a planet populated by Deep Ones to demonstrate his powers, planning to destroy the entire Earth next for the Outer Gods.
  • Double Dragon (1991): The evil Nightfall Was Once a Man named Shinichi who was spurned by his crush, Miranda, in favor of Stan "The Man" Lee. Shinichi pledged himself to the Counterforce, the embodiment of all wrong with the world, and then vowed to ruin Miranda's life. Nightfall waited until Miranda was pregnant with twins Jimmy and Billy and then tried to kill them all in one fell swoop; although he failed to kill her boys, he captured Miranda's soul and kept her in perpetual agony for the next eighteen years. Nightfall murders Jimmy and Billy's Sensei, has hordes of his minions attack entire crowds of people and kill dozens of innocents, and ultimately plans to destroy all civilization. Boundlessly evil, Nightfall commits all these atrocities for nothing but his petty grudge over Miranda's rejection.
  • Titanic Creations presents Soul War:
    • Erwin Rommel is depicted as a power-hungry and bloodthirsty enforcer of the Nazi operations in Egypt and Libya. Seeking out the ancient monster Skureaus to empower the German army, the first thing Rommel has the monster do upon awakening is slaughter the workers at the excavation site. Rommel then sends Skureaus to siege Cairo, leaving it in burning ruins, until becoming bored of its rampage. Using Skureaus to fight and seemingly kill the ancient monster Titanicus, Rommel begins mutating with more of his cruelty. Rommel cuts ties with Hitler, creating a cult to his own name, regularly devouring his followers and prisoners, and running a slave camp where defiance is met with immediate execution. While batting the young hero, Wolfgang, Rommel prepares to devour the boy alive while mocking him for "failing" his parents.
    • Griffixis is an alien monstrosity and the Hive King of an all-consuming pathogen. Previously infecting a far-off world, Griffixis wiped out all life on their planet, but not before the alien race created Nosferadon to stand against it. Eventually reaching Earth, Nosferadon infects two teenagers as its abducted victims, soon attacking a town as it grows big enough. Throughout, Griffixis, through its infected proxies, displays a childish glee at its mayhem. Facing Nosferadon, Griffixis lures the latter into getting gunned down by Nazi missiles, before soon assimilating Skureaus, gaining a superior body and preparing to continue its rampage. When Tom Benson enters the soul realm to sever Griffixis's link to Skureaus, Griffixis attempts to break Tom down with hellish visions. When seemingly destroyed, its two infected proxies escape and sneak into a crowd of refugees.
  • DCeased:
    • Erebos, a primordial god of darkness, is the true mind behind the Anti-Life Equation, released upon the world after Darkseid merges the Equation with Death. Immediately launching a full-scale assault on Earth, Erebos is responsible for all the death and misery that ensues in the series as the entire planet is nearly engulfed by a plague of the Anti-Living. Even when a cure is found, Erebos continues his destructive work through his control of Darkseid, using him to infect powerful beings like the New Gods and Mr. Mxyzptlk so as to conduct a wave of galactic genocide. A being obsessed with bringing death—whether it be simple mass murder or his own Anti-Life—to everything in existence, Erebos proves himself not only an arrogant sadist who delights in spreading fear of extinction, but also a hypocritical coward who begs for his life when his own end becomes inevitable.
    • Dead Planet: Trigon the Terrible, vexed by the Anti-Life Equation denying the souls of the dead to Hell, decides to take matters into his own hands by burning away all life and Anti-Life alike from the Earth. When John Constantine interferes, Trigon gloats of the tortures awaiting the magician in Hell and promises that he will partake in inflicting these punishments.
  • Ducktales: Twenty Years Later: Farid Kagan is the nephew of Shere Khan who, after losing his inheritance when McDuck Enterprises buys out Khan Industries, starts to plot his revenge. Rising to become president of Khan Industries, Farid manipulates Dewey Duck into giving him more executive power while the latter focuses on building his own fortune, using money to finance the Saint Canard underworld, funding murder, drug trade, pimps, and supervillains. Farid uses money he made from this to finance the Beagle Boys in executing a bloody siege of Duckburg, framing Dewey and his brothers for it and taking over as CEO of McDuck Enterprises. Farid manipulates the new Gizmoduck into working for him by capturing his mentor and predecessor to extract his blood to help his agent disguise himself as him, while keeping him starved and in isolation for years. Farid leads the Super Registration Act in Saint Canard, causing even more crime. Farid arranges for triplets and their allies to come to blows with Themberia, plotting to kick off a third world war and risk a nuclear holocaust in order to make money by selling weapons to both sides.
  • The Half-Titan Bloodline: Belos returns and proves himself as depraved as ever. Once just Philip Wittebane, bigoted Witch Hunter, who killed his brother Caleb for falling in love with a witch after failing to kill his pregnant wife, Belos goes on to commit his canon crimes before being revived by his descendant Alethea. Belos sets out to restart his genocidal crusade against witchkind by blowing up the castle of the Boiling Isles government and killing the survivors. Belos faces Luz, gloating about planning to murder her wife and daughter and being completely uncaring when he almost kills a 9-year-old girl. Belos plots to steal Azura's Titan powers to match Luz's and complete his genocide, threatening the lives of her loved ones to lure her to him. After absorbing Enzo's powers instead, Belos kills Luz's mother Camila and has his resurrected brother captured to force him to watch Belos's victory. Destroying the entire neighborhood in the Bonesborough to reconstruct his castle, Belos plots to fuse his essence with the planet and blow it up, before returning to the human world to continue his crusade against everybody he considers a sinner. When Luz leads the army to defeat him, Belos unleashes fleshy creatures on them, briefly killing Luz by petrifying her and almost destroys her body in front of her loved ones while mocking them about the impending destruction of their world.
  • Final Fantasy VII machinima Machinabridged: Sephiroth is a legendary member of SOLDIER who develops a genocidal hatred for humanity after discovering the truth about his origins through the Jenova project. Marking his introduction with a bloody killing spree through Shinra headquarters, Sephiroth, seeking godhood, leads Cloud and the rest of Avalanche on a chase across the planet to find the Black Materia so that he can use it to summon Meteor, severely damaging the planet and then absorbing the resulting energy into himself. To ensure nothing gets in his way, Sephiroth murders Aerith in the City of the Ancients, once again rubbing it in to Cloud. Believing himself and his "mother" Jenova to be divine punishment incarnate, Sephiroth proves to not only be a shockingly dark villain for an abridged series, but also much more detestable and pettier than his canon counterpart.
  • Gorillaz fanfic The Underground (link): The Essex Scalper is a sadistic Mad Artist who is obsessed with women's hair. Before the events of the story, the Scalper had already murdered over 17 women and his own son, Samuel Jenkins, stuffing their bodies in a wall within Kong Studios, with their souls stuck inside the studios as deformed monsters. Gaining an obsession with Stu "2D" Pot's hair, the Essex Scalper begins stalking and brutally assaults the band members to get 2D's hair, from shooting Russel's kneecap, stabbing Murdoc in the back, forcing Noodle to jump from an elevator shaft' and almost freezing 2D to death in a freezer.
  • Needful Things extended edition: Leland Gaunt seems to be a charming, kindly old salesman, but is actually the Devil himself. For centuries, Gaunt has walked the Earth and sowed all manner of mayhem, from plagues; to world wars; to the atom bomb, feeding off the mass misery he instills. In his latest form, Gaunt travels to small towns and slowly corrupts the population by offering them magical, valuable items that they feel compelled to own, and requesting a "favor" in return. Gaunt uses these "favors" to force the citizens to hurt and turn on each other, culminating in citywide chaos and murder that Gaunt revels in. Arriving in Castle Rock and beginning his usual procedure, Gaunt uses the young boy Brian as a stooge to carry out his will, and when two women kill each other thanks to Gaunt, Gaunt goads Brian into attempting suicide out of guilt for his part in things. After raping the fiancée of Sheriff Pangford, Gaunt tries to drive Castle Rock into tearing itself apart and, failing at this, tries to use another corrupted puppet to simply kill the entire town in a suicide bombing.
  • Sound of Freedom: While the film contains its fair share of terrible and disgusting people, these two prove to be superior to all others in sheer cruelty and depravity:
    • Giselle, real name Katy Juarez, also known as Cartagena, is a former beauty queen turned heartless child trafficker. Posing as a kind and friendly talent agent, Gisele manipulates poor parents into sending their children for a "photo shoot", only to kidnap them. Kidnapped children are stripped of their identities before being sold en masse for child pornography, sexual slavery, and prostitution, condemning them to a life of nightmares, with 10-15 sold at a time. Enjoying wealth and a luxurious life, built on the ruined lives of countless children, Gisele personifies the worst in human traffickers.
    • El Alacrán ("The Scorpion") is the disgusting head of FARC, who wants to organize a revolution against his country. Scorpion enslaves countless civilians, including children, and then forces them to crush coca leaves to produce cocaine to finance his revolution. A vile pedophile and customer of Rocio, Scorpion turns her into his personal sex slave, and dies when he tries to rape her again. Implied to be ready to execute anyone, including his men, who contracts cholera, El Alacrán, despite his limited time, proves to be the most disgusting and terrible of Giselle's clients.
  • "All the Ways to Hollow Out a Girl", by Gwendolyn Kiste (link): An unnamed trio of sadistic youths accidentally murder the story's POV character, Nyssa, only for her to bounce back to life in front of them. Initially shocked, the boys decide to take advantage of this and Nyssa's unwillingness to fight back. The three proceed to spend their summer break killing Nyssa over and over in increasing gruesome ways; beating her to death, drowning her, and burning her alive. Finally, the three of them decide to row Nyssa out to the nearby lake and chain her to the bottom so she can spend the rest of summer drowning, coming back to life, and drowning all over again.
  • Certain Death, by Tanya Landman (Poppy Fields Mystery #6) : Drago Mehic is an elderly knife-thrower in a travelling circus who initially seems harmless and senile. However, he is revealed to in fact be an unrepentant war criminal, having participated in massacring his own village during the Bosnian War. Proud of his actions and believing his victims to have deserved it due to being Muslim, Drago fled Yugoslavia to England, forcing his brother Yuri, who had abandoned the army after being unwilling to aid in the town slaughter, to give him a job there. Years went by until the day the circus stopped in a town where a woman whose children had been killed in the village now lived. When Yuri urged Drago to turn himself in, the latter instead stole Yuri's gun to murder the woman during a trapeze act, delaying pulling the trigger to savour her terror. Mercilessly executing a circus clown who had attempted to blackmail him, Drago next turns his sights on Yuri, intending to kill him for not aiding in slaughtering the village, referring to this as an act of justice. Caught, Drago corners the young Poppy and Graham, boasting of his plans to beat the children to death. With the highest body count of the entire book series and an affinity for remorseless gloating, Drago Mehic is Poppy's most sinister enemy by several magnitudes.
  • The Deptford Trilogy, by Robertson Davies: "Willard the Wizard" is a Stage Magician and secretly a drug-addicted predator who uses his job to regularly assault young boys. Taking special interest in little Paul Dempster, Willard kidnaps and rapes him on a weekly basis for years, keeping Paul by terrorizing and lying to the boy, traumatizing him for life.
  • "Dermot", by Simon Bestwick (link): The titular Dermot is a chubby, unassuming man with a horrible Dark Secret. Dermot, who may not be entirely human, has a special gift: He can sniff out dangerous monsters, allowing the police to swoop in and kill them before they can do any harm, thus preserving the masquerade. Dermot is no altruist, though, and demands a sinister price for working with the police: children. Each day, as payment for services rendered, Dermot is walked down to the cells beneath the police department and offered a chained-up child, a process Dermot has been through dozens or even hundreds of times. When the cops walk back in, Dermot is naked, the "tools" in his briefcase already cleaned of blood, and the child is gone—save for their bones. Despised by everyone he works with, and luxuriating in this reputation, Dermot is a horrible allegory for the industrialization of child abuse.
  • The Night in Question: Ashley Henderson, a sociopathic teenage girl and classmate of the protagonists obsessed with becoming a famous actress, discovers that she is the great-granddaughter of Hollywood starlet Mona Moody. After learning this, Ashley ruthlessly attacks those she perceives as standing in the way of the glamorous life she believes she deserves due to her lineage. Ashley seduces a party caterer to help beat her classmate Rebecca into a coma for owning a necklace that once belonged to Mona that Ashley now covets; and frames another girl, being gleeful over sending the latter to prison. Posing as Rebecca, Ashley cruelly exploits her victim's relative, Mona's old doctor, suffering from dementia, pressing him for information, leading to his fatal overdose on medication. Ashley attempts to silence Rebecca by posing as a nurse and inducing life-threatening heart attacks in elderly hospital patients simply as a distraction before nearly smothering her classmate with a pillow, showing no remorse when caught in the act. Driven by pure arrogance and entitlement, Ashley shows no regard for human life and is willing to do anything to satisfy her deluded dreams of stardom.
  • Supergirl: The Killers of Krypton:
    • Empress Gandelo is the monstrous head of the Trilium Empire. Gandelo is a delusional Knight Templar with a god complex and plans to purge the universe of all she deems a potential threat. To this end, she purges entire planets, including Colu, of all life. Gandelo also sent Rogol Zaar to wipe out Krypton and its inhabitants and later sends him to purge the universe of all surviving Kryptonians, including wiping out the city of Kandor. In addition, she secretly bankrolls Harry Hokum's horrific actions and experiments to get rid of Kara Zor El. Upon being confronted by Supergirl, Gandelo mocks her and gleefully attempts to psychologically break her. A raging egomaniac behind her hollow rhetoric of making the universe safer, Gandelo is even willing to let her loyal citizens die en masse if it means slowing down Supergirl.
    • Issues #25-28: Harry Hokum is a human who somehow ended up in the Vega star system and rose to become the leader of the fascistic Citadel. Under his leadership, the Citadel wages a bloody Civil War involving a rebellion led by the Omega Men, with entire worlds and races killed by the Citadel. Hokum blackmails Empress Gandelo into giving him the right to strip mine Krypton's remains by threatening to expose her involvement in its destruction, using technology he scavenged in experiments that left his personal laboratory filled with remains of vivisected aliens. When he captures Supergirl, Hokum takes her DNA to create a clone army to destroy the rebellion while throwing her in a labor camp. Luring the Omega Men with clones of their fallen comrades, Hokum uses clones to learn the location of their base and unleash deformed Supergirl clones on them.
  • Super Paper Mario (Movieverse Webcomic) (Super Paper Mario in the canon of The Super Mario Bros. Movie): Dimentio, remaining about as monstrous as his original counterpart, is the Ax-Crazy former minion of Count Bleck who would betray him and take the Chaos Heart for himself, intending to destroy all worlds and rule over new ones remade in his image. Learning "one in green" was a pivotal part of the Dark Prognosticus's prophecy to end all worlds, Dimentio would manipulate Luigi to his side in hopes of using him to fulfill it. When he realizes that Luigi is no longer on his side, Dimentio uses the floro sprout he had placed in his head and the Chaos Heart to painfully transform him into his vessel. As Dimentio takes over Luigi's body, inside his subconscious, Dimentio forces Luigi to watch as he nearly kills Mario in cold blood, putting the blame on Luigi for nearly killing his own brother.
  • Karazgar the Weeping Warrior is the self-proclaimed greatest of Sauron's Gúrzyul. In the past, Karazgar gained the trust of Fram, the ruler of the Éothéod, and performed a ritual on him that made him distrustfully of his dwarven allies. When Fram became aware of Karazgar's manipulation and confronted him, Karazgar was awaiting him next to a group of dwarves he had killed and then murdered Fram as well to make it look like they had killed each other. Karazgar was also responsible for tricking the dragon Smaug into attacking Erebor and killing many dwarves when placed the heads of five dragon whelps with dwarven axes stuck in their heads next to his lair. After Sauron's demise, Karazgar again manipulated a group of dragons into attacking Erebor and when the dragons lost, subdued their injured leader to gain control of his army. He then met with a dwarven expedition sent into the Grey Mountains to proclaim his rule over the North and told the dwarves that they could either leave Erebor and the Iron Hills or would be destroyed . When the dwarves refused, Karazgar had the expedition camp attacked by his dragons, killing most of them and only called his army back because he had promissed them to return two more times. Even after he lost control of the dragons and was severely wounded, Karazgar proved to be a formidable foe, as shown when he attacked the expedition camp alone and killed over a dozen more dwarves before the wizard Gandalf stepped in and managed to chase him away.
  • Dusty duology:
  • A ROBLOX Quest series: The Phantom Orb is a shadowy entity seeking to claim the elements of Robloxia to Take Over the World. Debuting in Quest to the Guest, Phantom Orb brainwashes Guest into attacking his bullies and conquering Robloxia. When the protagonist manages to stop his plans, he tries to kill both them and Guest by exploding himself. Returning in Bloxxy-Tooie, Phantom Orb possesses Graciela and transforms her into Grantilda. As Grantilda, the Phantom Orb attacks the Mayahem Temple on the Isle 'O Jiggs, shattering the sacred Jiggy in the process. In Elements of Robloxia, Phantom Orb uses the elements stolen in the previous game to attack Roblox HQ, killing Shedletsky during the attack, and builds the OmeDarkTron. After his plans are foiled for the third time, Phantom Orb instead decides to destroy the world and steals the souls of the element guardians to empower himself.

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YorkobeShounen Since: Dec, 2022
#13188: Apr 14th 2024 at 5:53:32 AM

  • The manga series gives Adaptational Villainy to the following incarnations of Xehanort:
    • Kingdom Hearts & Chain of Memories: Ansem, Seeker of Darkness is the Heartless form of Xehanort. Masterminding the Heartless' invasion of several worlds and Maleficent's plan to capture the Seven Princesses of Heart in order to open the Final Keyhole, Ansem Mind Rapes Riku so that he can possess his body. He stabs Maleficent with a Keyblade in order to destroy her once she's no longer of use to him, and then deceives Sora into using that same Keyblade to make what would ultimately be a Senseless Sacrifice, turning Sora into a Heartless and unsealing the Final Keyhole. When Riku's heart fights back from within to stop him from attempting to kill Kairi, Ansem uses his power to banish Riku's heart into the Dark Realm. Ultimately planning to open the Door of Darkness to let darkness consume all existence, Ansem shows nothing but glee towards his destructive ambitions. Returning after defeat as a specter within Riku's heart, Ansem attempts to play the boy's own emotions against him in order to take control of the boy's body once more, vicious to the end. Showcasing no redeeming features and played dead seriously against the manga's usually lighthearted and silly tone, Xehanort's Heartless would do whatever it took to gain ultimate knowledge and power, and to sate his undying hunger for darkness.
    • Kingdom Hearts II & 358/2 Days: Xemnas, the Nobody form of Xehanort and leader of Organization XIII, is portrayed as a cruel sociopath who rules his organization without care for any of its members, viewing his followers as weaklings who are only fit to serve his purposes. Looking to exploit the Keyblade's power to claim hearts, he allows Roxas and Xion to grow close, intending to then pit them against each other so he can judge which Keybearer would be more useful to his plans, even tampering with Xion's form, Mind Raping her and sending her to her death. When Axel is sent to look for the runaway Roxas, Xemnas threatens to eliminate him if he doesn't bring Roxas back dead or alive. He later attacks the Radiant Garden with hordes of Heartless, almost getting Goofy critically injured in the process, just so Sora and King Mickey can slay them all and give him enough hearts to complete his own Kingdom Hearts. When Ansem the Wise and Mickey try to stop his plans at his castle, Xemnas orders his Nobodies to kill them, and proceeds to overtake the Great Heart from within in an attempt to reduce all of existence to nothingness and destroy all those in his way. Cold-blooded, pitiless, and lacking his game counterpart's Tragic Villain qualities, Xemnas continuously shows himself to be more monstrous than any other Nobody solely because he thinks it in his best interest to be so.

So it’s come to my attention that there is indeed a KH 3 manga by the same author. And it’s still ongoing

And Birth by Sleep is canon

Meaning these two are preety similar to their canon counterparts (especially Ansem) so uhhh, wouldn’t this be ground to disqualify them? Because there is no way the manga will straight up change the ending

LarryT I’ll take a potato chip… and EAT IT! from the Eldritch Ocean Abyss Since: Aug, 2023
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#13189: Apr 14th 2024 at 7:06:12 AM

[up] I don’t know anything about Kingdom Hearts, but if the manga’s ongoing I say wait and see

Anyway, Looking at Monster.Whoniverse one struck me as unnecessarily long, mind if I try to trim it?

  • Current writeup "The Power of Kroll": Thawn is the head of a methane refinery on a satellite to which the native population have already been relocated by human settlers. Thawn's desire to see the operation expand results in him planning genocide against the native Swampies so he can expand onto their settlement. To this end, he pays a gunrunner to supply them with faulty weapons, so they're not actually a threat but he can use the weapons as an excuse to slaughter them and then claim self-defense. When his plans get disrupted by the arrival of swamp monster Kroll, he laughs in delight as Kroll attacks the Swampies village openly hoping it might wipe them out, a moment that leaves his entire crew staring in disgust. He then decides to take advantage of the situation by launching a bombardment against Kroll, while also wiping out the Swampies as "collateral damage". Openly expressing his contempt for them, Thawn regularly talks about the Swampies as though they're mere animals, outright stating that his Swampie servant doesn't count as a person. When one of his crew objects and tries to stop the bombardment, Thawn, without a moment's hesitation, shoots him In the Back. Despite his overall low standing, by being willing to wipe out an entire race out of irrational hatred and the prospect of commercial gain, Thrawn managed to sink to a depth of depravity matched by few.

  • Proposed rewrite "The Power of Kroll": Thawn, the greedy head of a methane refinery on a satellite to which the native population have already been relocated by human settlers, treats the native Swampy population as though they're mere animals Thawn's desire to see the operation expand results in him planning genocide against the Swampies so he can expand onto their settlement. To this end, he pays a gunrunner to supply them with faulty weapons, so they're not actually a threat but he can use the weapons as an excuse to slaughter them and then claim self-defense. When his plans get disrupted by the arrival of swamp monster Kroll, he then decides to take advantage of the situation by launching a bombardment against Kroll, while also wiping out the Swampies as "collateral damage". When one of his crew objects and tries to stop the bombardment, Thawn, without a moment's hesitation, shoots him In the Back.

Thoughts

Edited by LarryT on Apr 14th 2024 at 7:13:45 AM

In honor of Akira Toriyama
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#13190: Apr 14th 2024 at 2:12:33 PM

Good with the Thawn rewrite, I'm fine with keeping Ansem and Xemnas for the time being.

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#13191: Apr 14th 2024 at 3:40:51 PM

Rewrite of Emperor Belos, villains New Tricks and Thawn . Great job guys!

I myself have 3 long-standing options. First, Tzekel-Kan. The recording is very good, but it reads somehow strangely. It’s as if different parts of his crimes were collected by chance. The recording is again very good, I just think you just need to poke it. Second Doctor. The entry describes his biography rather than his crimes, and it is not immediately clear what his classification is. Third Remy Duval. Part of the recording is rather devoted exclusively to the individual; I think they can be safely placed next to his crimes.

The Road to El Dorado:Tzekel-Kan is the power-hungry and sadistic High Priest of Eldorado, who fanatically practices human sacrifice despite the protests of his people. Mistaking Miguel and Tulio, who arrived in the city, for gods, Tzekel-Kan tries to sacrifice citizens for their favor, like a random innocent citizen or a sports team after a loss. When his plan to "cleanse" the city of non-believers fails and he learns that Miguel and Tulio are not gods, Kahn brings the Jaguar statue to life, sacrificing his most loyal servant before setting him on Tulio and Miguel, not caring that all the city and its inhabitants are in mortal danger. Defeated and miraculously surviving, Tzekel-Kan decides to lead Hernán Cortés and his army to his city, willing to allow him to massacre his entire people and destroy El Dorado, as evil revenge for his defeat.

Dragalia Lost "Dragalia Lost: Scars of the Syndicate":The Doctor is the main figure of The Syndicate, a group involved in shadowy fusion experiments. Raiding numerous villages to collect test subjects, the Doctor conducts disgusting experiments, merging people with real monsters. While attempting to merge Aldred with the dragon Barbatos, the Doctor calls him trash and brushes him off after failing. When Prince Euden refuses his offer of fusion and attempts to destroy it, the Doctor throws one of his manticores to slaughter, fully aware that the manticore in question is Alfred's sister. Having lured Euden and his group into a trap in a nearby village and fused with the demon, the Doctor attempts to viciously kill them all and even defeated, the Doctor gloats that his death will only further the Syndicate's goals.

Mafia III: Remy Duvall is a Blue Blood of New Bordeauxand the seemingly friendly and simple-minded host of the widely popular radio show "Native Son", promoting white values. In truth, the ferocious leader of the Southern Union and an ardent white supremacist, allied with the Marcano crime family. Duvall orders blacks beaten and killed and assists Marcano in their PCP operation. Duvall secretly sells blacks into slavery to rich whites, a crime that disgusts and horrifies even other bandits. After Lincoln Clay destroyed his operations, Duvall rallies his followers with the intention of sending Lincoln and his allies to Delray Hollow, intending to then burn it down completely, not caring about the countless deaths among innocent "white" citizens. Claiming to love and protect his city, but willing to harm and even kill white Christians if it benefits him, Duvall takes racism to horrific levels.

Edited by Ghal-Sur on Apr 14th 2024 at 3:48:34 AM

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#13193: Apr 14th 2024 at 6:37:37 PM

Am good with the rewrites of those three as well.

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#13194: Apr 14th 2024 at 6:38:50 PM

Okay, so after some issues on the proposal thread, I got suspicious and went back to look at this.

  • Justice League: The Spider & Web of Cadmus (DC Animated Universe, specifically Justice League, & Ultimate Marvel, specifically Ultimate Spider-Man): Doctor Octopus is a revenge-seeking mass murderer who keeps his canon crimes but none of the redeeming qualities. Having travelled to the DCAU, Doc Ock begins his revenge on the Wall-Crawler. Building a machine called the Triskellon, Doc Ock uses it to find villains from other worlds after killing one of the scientists. To this end, Doc Ock teams up with Lex Luthor and hires a thief to steal one of the parts. Later contacting the Justice Lords, Doc Ock has them destroy the League while he kidnaps Supergirl and brutalizes her. Doc Ock then tosses Supergirl off the Brooklyn Bridge in her weakened state. Returning in the sequel, Doc Ock works for Amanda Waller, creating the clones Kaine and Galatea. Doc Ock manipulates Superboy to force Supergirl to love him before shooting him with a vial to brainwash him. Doc Ock then kills Amanda Waller, hijacking control of the clones with a code phrase only he can access. When Lex Luthor succeeds in becoming president, he and Doc Ock resume their alliance.

The EP states that:

There’s a moment where he snaps when is tentacles get cut off by Donna and coddles with one of them and talking about avenging them calling them his friends given that there sentient ai like in the second Sam rami spider man film. But he forgets all about them and gets over in the sequel once he gets new arms showing he dropped any care for them in fact, he never really cared about them to begin with.

I... do not feel very confident with that logic. I Ctrl F'd for "arms" and "tentacles" around the fic a little; it's mentioned several times that Ock genuinely cares for the tentacles as friends and grieves their loss (here, their "death scene", and here), and even in the sequel it's noted at the beginning of this chapter that he still misses his old set specifically for the fact that they were alive.

Also, that first chapter I linked to mentions the accident that bonded him to the arms also altered his mind. Admittedly, not sure whether that's to mean he was driven insane or that he merely mind melded with the tentacle AI, but it should have been included in the proposal.

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Apr 14th 2024 at 9:43:00 AM

Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
#13195: Apr 14th 2024 at 6:41:32 PM

Weird, but that seems redeeming, cut away!

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#13197: Apr 14th 2024 at 6:45:57 PM

Cut Otto

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#13199: Apr 14th 2024 at 6:50:12 PM

Cut Otto, agreed that should've been mentioned.

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#13200: Apr 14th 2024 at 6:58:16 PM

Cut Ock.

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