YMMV: Star Wars


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  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Quite a bit of this in fandom. Anakin Skywalker is a Base Breaker (as stated below) - is he a self-involved brat who always whines about how hard his life is or a hapless Pawn of Prophecy, or a psychotic Stalker with a Crush who used the Force to Mind Rape the woman he was obsessed with, or a poor misunderstood Jerkass Woobie who would have been fine if those cold and unfeeling Jedi had just tried harder to understand him? Well, it depends which fans you ask.
    • His mentor, Obi-Wan Kenobi also gets his fair share and it's arguable that some inconsistencies are the results of Retcons in the prequels from things already established (or implied) in the Original Trilogy - and then there are things thrown in from the EU (such as the Jedi Apprentice novels). For instance, some cite his Chessmaster tendencies in the original trilogy and see him as self-righteous and authoritarian in the prequels, but the novelisation of Revenge of the Sith characterises him as so self-effacing, that he genuinely doesn't realise his true value and abilities as a Jedi (his reaction when the Jedi Council announce that they are sending their "most cunning and most tenacious Master" to deal with General Grievous is both touching and amusing. He asks who they intend to send and then it dawns on him that everyone else is looking at him).
      • It could also be inferred that Obi-Wan himself is something of an Unreliable Narrator who tends to emphasise his own failures and relative culpability (which would fit in the self-effacing characterisation mentioned above). For instance, When Obi-Wan tells Luke that Anakin's fall was partially his fault because "I thought I could instruct him as well as Yoda. I was wrong." in Return of the Jedi it somewhat implies that Obi-Wan must have arrogantly demanded to train someone that Yoda would have been willing to train and done a better job with. Come The Phantom Menace this is shown clearly not to be the case. Obi-Wan is perhaps a little arrogant in the way he demands to train the boy, but it seems clear that a) Yoda was not willing to do the job and b) the demand is driven by his promise to a dying man rather that any belief in his own abilities as a teacher. And there doesn't seem to be any cases where Obi Wan tries to represent his role in events to be bigger or better than is actually seen or to place blame for his problems on others. Maybe he really is that humble and/or shy of taking praise or credit?
    • Some like to think the Jedi are more evil/susceptible to the Dark Side than they admit due to certain actions, Obi-Wan and Yoda in particular get hit with Ron the Death Eater interpretations in regard to their training of Luke and hiding the truth about Vader to him.
    • There's been some speculation that Jar Jar Binks is actually force-sensitive. The main citation (as per The Fool) is that with some of the crap he lives through and pulls off, there is no way all of that is purely incidental.
      • In Star Wars there is a power even greater than the Force - Plot Armor. It is what allows for Muggle pilots like Han, Lando and Wedge to fly ships through asteroid thickets or inside of Death Stars at high speeds. It also enabled Padme to escape being killed in the arena on Geonosis even as hundreds of Jedi were cut down all around her.
  • Angst Dissonance: It's very likely that Anakin himself in the prequels is deliberately written to be Wangsty, due to the fact that his anger leads to his path down to the Dark Side.
  • Archive Panic: The Star Wars franchise is one of the biggest media franchises around—it consists of six movies (with three more on the way), numerous spin off films and animated cartoon series, a monstrous amount of comic books, comic strips, books and novels (Wikipedia lists at least 303 books total), over 120 video game tie ins and other misc. material (I.e. The radio and audio dramas, and enough toys and merchandise to fill the Executor). And new content is still being made to this day, and after 37 years, it is showing no signs of stopping.
  • Badass Decay: Padme Amidala, when she becomes pregnant with twins in Revenge of the Sith. Justified in that she's eight to nine months pregnant.
  • Better On Blu-Ray: If you get the Complete Saga collection, you'll get all six movies so that you don't have to buy them separately. This makes it slightly easier for a viewing experience, as both trilogies were originally sold separately. It counts also even for the regular editions (including as a DVD release), as all three films of both trilogies are collected in the set instead of separately.
  • Broken Base: Oh yes.
    • There is a schism between fans who enjoy the prequels but find the originals to be outdated, the fans who insist that the original trilogy is the best and that the prequels can piss off on account for their lower quality writing and the fans who believe that the entire series is good. There are also fans who enjoy the Expanded Universe and those who don't care for it. More generally, there is a related but not identical schism between pro-Lucas and anti-Lucas fans.
    • Two of the home video releases, the 2006 "Limited Edition" DVD release and the 2011 Blu-ray release. Most other releases were either generally liked or generally hated.
      • For the 2006 "Limited Edition" with the original theatrical versions, some fans were gleeful/grateful that Lucas finally let them see Han shoot first, see Sebastian Shaw's ghost instead of Hayden Christensen's, hear Jason Wingreen as Boba Fett, watch Jabba's performers sing "Lapti Nek", etc. Other fans were extremely critical about the poor quality of the originalsnote  and believed that Lucas was intentionally creating an inferior product to suit his own purposes.
      • For the Blu-ray versions, on one hand, you have the picture quality, the boatload of extras and the opportunity to watch all six movies in brilliant hi-def. On the other hand, you have the various edits (and Lucas' refusal to revert old unpopular edits such as Greedo shooting first), horribly lame cover art that shows how much Lucas loves Jake Lloyd, and the picture quality.
    • Anakin Skywalker in the prequels either had a well-developed fall or was too Wangsty. As far as an alien race goes, the Ewoks are tolerated or hated depending on the fan.
    • A fan has said this about the Star Wars fanbase...
      "...If I got asked to direct Star Wars? I'd only do so under the guise of complete anonymity. If fanbases were countries, Star Wars would be Yugoslavia."
  • Canon Fodder: Despite the Expanded Universe, or maybe because of it.
  • Contested Sequel:
    • Due to the virtrolic nature of the Broken Base, every movie after The Empire Strikes Back is seen as this. Ironically, Empire was widely seen as this at the time of release due to being Darker and Edgier and having No Ending, though it was considered the Magnum Opus of the Original Trilogy once Return Of The Jedi was made.
    • The Prequel Trilogy as a whole is subject to this - though it's largely agreed that they aren't quite as good as the original trilogy (which was admittedly a Tough Act to Follow combined with nearly twenty years of hype and anticipation), whether or not they're good films in their own right is hotly debated - especially The Phantom Menace. Within the Prequel Trilogy itself, fans can't seem to agree on whether Attack Of The Clones and Revenge Of The Sith are Surprisingly Improved Sequels, Even Better Sequels, or symptomatic of Sequelitis. General audiences seem to be more welcoming to the movies than hardcore fans are, however.
  • Complete Monster: See Emperor Palpatine and the others here.
  • Critical Backlash: The prequel trilogy, especially The Phantom Menace, gets this in spades, though Revenge of the Sith gets it much less so than the other two.
  • Critical Dissonance:
    • The prequels had better reception than most internet forums and comments sections would have one believe, considering the first two got a So Okay, It's Average reaction with 59% and 67% scores on Rotten Tomatoes and a rather positive 80% for Episode III, slightly higher than Return of the Jedi by 1%. Going by some fan reactions and the audience polls ranging in the 60% range, one would get the impression they are some of the worst films to hit the planet.
    • Similarly, while Return of the Jedi is considered the weakest of the original films, it still has a very favorable reception, considering its Rotten Tomatoes score is at a whopping 95%, far better than the 79% of critics.
  • Crowning Music of Awesome: All of it. Yes, we do mean all of it. Check the Star Wars folder on John William's page and believe.
  • Enhanced On Blu-Ray: The Blu-Ray release of Star Wars removes small mistakes in the original trilogy that were missed (such as the lightsabers in the Darth Vader and Luke fight in Return Of The Jedi) and includes re-rendered CGI for many scenes of the prequels and replaces the Yoda puppet from The Phantom Menace with the CGI one.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Now has its own page.
  • Epileptic Trees:
    • There's a somewhat popular one that suggests that R2-D2 was actually a Republic and later Rebel spy throughout the entire series.
    • Another popular theory posits that Boba Fett killed Beru and Owen Lars, supported by his presence on Tatooine in the Special Edition, and the fact that Darth Vader specifically tells him not to disintegrate anyone, when the only characters that are shown as having been disintegrated are the Lars family.
  • Even Better Sequel: The Empire Strikes Back is viewed as one to the original film (A New Hope).
  • Evil Is Cool: Darth Vader kicked this trope into high gear and set the standard for future fictional villains. Most of the series' other villains are well-loved too, Palpatine and Darth Maul in particular.
  • Evil Is Sexy:
  • Fandom Berserk Button: Bringing up just about anything involving the prequel trilogy has been known to tick off very scornful fans of the series. And on a minor note; do not call Darth Vader "Dark" Vader unless you really want to get on a fans nerves.
  • Fan Hater: Towards its own fandom nonetheless! Wars over elements of the franchise, especially the prequels, can get ugly, in some cases leading to rather truly horrible things such as fans attacking each other and name calling (It's not hard to find forums or comments where people tell fans of the prequels to watch the Plinkett Reviews because they just can't live with the idea that people like them.
  • Fandom Heresy: Criticizing Yoda. In some scornful circles, admitting you liked the prequels (or worse, the Updated Rereleases of the originals) can be this, too. Among the absolute most "purist" fans, even Return of the Jedi isn't always safe.
    • If you say you like Hayden Christensen (Or at least his performance), you'd better be ready to reap the shitstorm.
  • Fandom Rivalry: Famously so with Star Trek, no doubt caused by the similarity in names and contrasting styles. Star Wars Vs. Star Trek exists for a reason.
    • Now that J. J. Abrams has been given the reigns for both franchises, tensions have really heated up.
    • Thanks to the Mr. Plinkett reviews, Red Letter Media is a sworn enemy of fans who like the prequels, leaking over to fans hating each other for liking the prequels.
  • Fanfic Fuel: Long before the Prequel Trilogy was released, there were fanfics about the rise of the Empire and Anakin Skywalker's turn to the Dark Side.
  • Fanon Discontinuity:
    • There is a small, but vocal, segment of fans that consider the prequels and edits to the original trilogy non-canon. There is also a substantial segment of the fan base that would like to pretend that all of Lucas's entries in the series after Return of the Jedi never existed.
    • Also, The Star Wars Holiday Special is one of those things that the fans, nonfans and George Lucas refuse to acknowledge the existence of.
    • Some fans already also considered the EU non-canon, even though that conflicted with Lucasfilm's former canon policy. Following the dropping of the EU in 2014, some longtime fans of the EU have stated they still consider it canon. Broken Base, much?
  • First Installment Wins: All the films were financial successes and while elements from the series, particularly the first four (A New Hope through The Phantom Menace) are known among the general public, A New Hope is by far the most parodied and referenced. The Empire Strikes Back, however, is viewed as an Even Better Sequel as hindsight and the other films have their fans as well, making this a small point of contention among fans.
    • As a whole, the original trilogy was better received than the prequels despite having their fans.
  • Franchise Original Sin: Nearly all the flaws of the prequel trilogy (Corny dialogue and acting, cutesy moments, scrappys), notably excepting cheesy romantic scenes and Conspicuous CG, were present, albeit in reduced quantities, in the original trilogy as well. Rumor has it that the OT's love story would've been cheesy, had Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher not come up with far superior lines on their own.
  • Freud Was Right: To wit, Luke has a sexual attraction to his sister note , hates his father while considering him a masculine role model, and wants to know about his mother. Anakin's first step to the dark side is avenging his mother.
  • Generational Saga: The Star Wars movie saga is the story of the rise of a man from absolute poverty to absolute power and his downfall, intersected with the rise of his son from that of a simple farmer to galactic hero.
  • Heartwarming in Hindsight: Luke and C-3PO's bond throughout the original trilogy becomes more heartwarming when we see in The Phantom Menace that Threepio was originally built by Anakin, effectively making Luke and Threepio brothers.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • A planet with two suns was discovered by NASA years after the release of A New Hope.
    • "That's no moon... oh wait, it actually is. Never mind."
    • In anticipation of the release of Return of the Jedi, MAD once ran an article called "The Star Wars Log", framed as the official outline of the rest of the saga (which had been announced as a nine-film series at the time). The article was supposed to poke fun at the convoluted direction of the series up to that point, but a few of its predictions actually turned out to be eerily accurate. For example:
      • They predicted that Episode II would be titled "Send in the Clones", and that it would involve the revelation that Darth Vader and Obi-Wan were cloned from the same donor (Chewbacca's grandfather). Episode II was actually called "Attack of the Clones", and the revelation was about Boba Fett and the Stormtroopers being cloned from the same donor.
      • They predicted that the detail about Chewie's grandfather would set up a conflict between the Wookiees and the Empire in Episode III. As it turned out, a battle involving the Wookiees and the Empire actually was a big plot point in Episode III, and Chewie himself would have been a veteran of that battle.
      • They predicted that the later films would involve a "Great Droid War" of some kind. Though it wasn't actually called that, the later prequels did have the heroes at war with an evil army of droids.
      • They predicted that the series would end with the revelation that Luke's father wasn't Darth Vader...but that Luke was fathered by "the Force itself". In the real movies, Vader did turn out to be Luke's father after all, but Vader was revealed to have been conceived by the Force.
    • This parody in an Italian Mickey Mouse comic made in 1997 is this, now that Disney owns Star Wars.
    • The 2006 Drawn Together episode "Terms of Endearment" does a Chair Reveal scene taken directly from General Veers glimpsing Vader's helmet being lowered onto his scarred head in The Empire Strikes Back. Except that in the Drawn Together version the villain is revealed to be...Mickey Mouse!
  • Ho Yay: Very little outside the Expanded Universe, but Luke and Han have a few longing stares in Episodes IV and V.
    • Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan/Anakin are both popular. Say what you will: George has figured out how to take Ho Yay out of the level of Fanservice for the ladies and some men and actually have it be meaningful, such as Obi-Wan's "I loved you," which was a response to Anakin's bitter "!" for being left by him to burn near a river of lava. Both of them feeling betrayed by the other.
    • There's quite a bit between C-3PO and R2-D2 as well, with the theory of the two being closet homosexuals being very popular for a long time.
  • Idiot Plot: Ties in with They Just Didn't Care - a frequent complaint about the prequel trilogy is that the plots only work because the heroes are too stupid to see that the real villain is right in front of them.
  • I Liked It Better When It Sucked: An argument that fans of the original cuts of the film make in regards to the Special Editions is that the movies had more soul to it without the touch-ups and added scenes. This is still a point of debate, as aside from some of the more controversial changes (such as Greedo shooting at Han), there are a still a handful of Special Effect Failures present in the original cuts that detract from the experience of the movies that said Special Editions fix.
  • Ink Stain Adaptation: The prequels' handling of certain characters was extremely divisive to say the least, so much so that many fans claimed the characters were ruined by the prequels.
    • In the mind of these detractors, the character most thoroughly ink-stained by this is, of course, Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. Prior to the prequels, Vader was known as one of the most iconic villains ever, a fearsome, black-armoured Fallen Hero who was as dangerous to incompetent subordinates as to his foes. The decision of the prequels to portray him as a scared little boy, then an awkward, teenager, then a generally unsympathetic, narcissistic, short-sighted, and occasionally megalomaniacal Anti-Hero forever sullied the image of the Dark Lord for many prequel detractors. On the other side of the spectrum Prequel fans argue that Anakin was supposed to be like this in an attempt by Lucas to deconstruct certain tropes and notions viewers had about Vader.
    • Boba Fett wound up with some ink-stains as well. While he was the original trilogy's Memetic Badass and the early Expanded Universe turned him into an Ascended Extra, Episode II retconned his EU backstory and changed him into a clone-child of another bounty hunter. To be fair, Fett has been the subject of a lot of inter-author warfare and his depictions vary so much from author to author, it's difficult to figure out who the "real" character even is anymore...
    • Some fans did not take kindly to the zen-like mentor Yoda getting a lightsaber and fighting like a pinball throughout the prequels.
  • Internet Backdraft: Depending on what forums you go to, mentioning the prequels could start a war.
  • It Was His Sled:
    • In case you didn't know, Vader is Luke's father.
    • And Senator Palpatine is Darth Sidious.
    • Also, that little green alien is Yoda.
    • Princess Leia is Luke's sister.
    • Really, a large amount of the plot is known among the general public for the entire series. The fact that Star Wars is commonly subject to Whole Plot Reference in many works doesn't help matters at all.
  • Iron Woobie: Obi Wan Kenobi endures an excruciating amount of personal loss and suffering without complaining about it or visibly cracking under the pressure.
  • It's Popular, Now It Sucks:
    • Some nerds in other fandoms resent Star Wars because it's the most prevalent stereotype of what nerds enjoy (at least in America).
  • Love It or Hate It: The prequels and ewoks.
  • Love to Hate: Most of the major villains are subject to this, but Darth Vader, Palpatine, Darth Maul, Boba Fett, and General Grievous are probably the biggest examples.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader.
    • Boba Fett as well. He may be a ruthless bounty hunter, but he did watch his father get decapitated as a kid after all.
  • Magnificent Bastard: Palpatine in the Prequel Trilogy. In the original trilogy he's more of a Smug Snake.
    • He takes on 4 Jedi Masters (one of them Mace Windu) and kills three of them in seconds. He either allows Windu to defeat him just so he can present himself as a helpless victim to Anakin, or despite being defeated manages to instantly turn the situation around to get Anakin to perform an irredeemable act that will turn him to the Dark Side. He's also not above using himself as bait in traps, exposing himself to considerable danger in the process. His kidnapping at the start of Revenge of the Sith was orchestrated to get Anakin into a position where he could kill off Dooku and potentially also get Obi-Wan killed in the line of duty and deprive Anakin of his restraining influence. More famously, in Return of the Jedi he used his presence aboard the unfinished second Death Star to make a sortie against the battle station all the more irresistible to the rebels, allowing him to ensnare them in a trap that would wipe out their ships and leaders, eliminating their ability to oppose his rein in any organized way once and for all.
  • Memetic Badass: Han Solo, with his charming personality and awesome ship.
    • R2-D2 saves the day enough that some people wonder why he doesn't get more credit.
    • The Fetts, Boba in particular considering he does almost nothing but looks very cool.
    • Mace Windu demands to know why he and his purple lightsaber are third on this list, !
    • Kyle Katarn from the Expanded Universe is being treated as the SW universe's answer to Chuck Norris.
    • Yoda, ever since his duel with Count Dooku in Attack of the Clones. Ever since that movie, anytime a Pint Sized Power House character is fighting, you can guarantee that they will fight exactly as Yoda does.
  • Memetic Loser: The Stormtroopers are so memetically bad (To the point of exaggeration) at hitting targets that they're the Trope Namer for Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy.
    • There's also Greedo, who's a Memetic Loser both in and out of universe. The poor guy is the Butt Monkey of the galaxy and can't kill Han Solo when he's sitting barely a foot away from him.
    • The Battle Droids, in and out of universe for being even worse marksmen than Stormtroopers.
  • Memetic Molester: Palpatine, just for his lines to Anakin in The Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith . The Expanded Universe makes it even worse.
  • Memetic Mutation: As mentioned above, everything. The original trilogy alone has easily the highest degree of quotes per movie ever; for example, doing a Google search for virtually any line from Episode IV will result in an auto-fill. The prequels slightly less so. Just as general concepts, "The Dark Side" and "The Force" have entered mainstream culture.
    Admiral Ackbar: "It's a trap!"
    Darth Vader: "DO NOT WANT!"
    Darth Vader: "I find your lack of X disturbing."
    • The whole "Disney buying Lucasfilm" thing led to a slew of jokes about Princess Leia becoming a Disney Princess.
    • A few memes have taken hold in the comment sections of the official Star Wars Facebook page. In particular: when the moderators post trivia questions on Tuesdays, it's become tradition to answer "Jake from State Farm" when they ask for a character's name. After NBC anchor Brian Williams was suspended in February 2015 for falsely claiming to have survived an RPG attack while riding in a military helicopter in Iraq, many fans have taken to answering "Brian Williams" when the question is about a character who participated in a major battle.
  • Memetic Sex God: Lando is quite the ladies' man thanks to his suave demeanor and mustache.
    • Han Solo is a minor case of it compared to Lando. This isn't too hard to believe as Harrison Ford is quite nice-looking himself.
    • R2-D2, of all people, has become this due to his constant pluggings into computer systems.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Palpatine crosses this when he tells his troops to execute Order 66. Subverted by Anakin/Darth Vader, who redeems himself after years of evil actions, but initially played straight either when he slaughtered Tusken Raiders (women and children included) in Attack of the Clones, or when he massacred Jedi children in Revenge of the Sith.
    • He'd orchestrated a major intergalactic civil war that has caused the deaths of countless billions on hundreds of planets solely to cement his political power and weaken or destroy all rivals to that power. And he'd been planning it for years prior, to say nothing of all the other evil stuff he ordered in The Phantom Menace, and everything we're told he'd done in the Expanded Universe up to this point. Moral Event Horizon? That hardly counts as Tuesday. He'd done waaayyyy more evil stuff than that throughout the series.
  • Most Wonderful Sound: ''Pkshhhhhhhh! Wommmm wommmmm wommmmm Psh!''
    • During the filming of the prequels, they had to keep reminding Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen to stop making lightsaber sounds with their mouths because their lips could be seen moving when they did it. In one interview, Liam Neeson also admitted to doing this in rehearsals.
    • Many of the other sound effects as well, such as the blasters and various spaceship noises. There's a reason other works steal them.
  • Narm: A common complaint levied against quite a bit of the dialogue, especially in the prequels. Lucas admitted his weakness as a writer of dialogue, but is also a fan of melodrama (at one point, Hayden Christensen tried to deliver a line in a calm, realistic manner, but Lucas ordered him to redo it in an over-the-top fashion). It was also the first franchise on this wiki to have its own Narm page.
    • Narm Charm: Many scenes come across as being cheesy, but they don't detract from how awesome the films are that much. Many of the examples listed on that page qualify for this trope as well.
    • A lot of fans agree this is the reason why they might give the prequels a chance.
  • Nightmare Fuel: Star Wars has it's own page of horrors.
  • Nostalgia Filter: The arguments of a lot of Original Trilogy purists reek of this - never mind that the Original Trilogy had several flaws that weren't fixed until the Special Editions (which many of said purists ignore), and that a few of these flaws were actually avoided in the Prequel Trilogy.
  • Opinion Myopia: Occurs quite a bit among fans, especially the more zealous haters of the prequels who often insist the fans who like them are stupid and need to watch the Red Letter Media reviews.
  • The Problem with Licensed Games: Back and forth. Usually original EU games turn out fairly well (helped that they're games designed to stand alone products and not cash ins to the movies), with some even being considered classics but for the most part direct adaptations of the movies suffer. The Super Star Wars trilogy were not only the most notable aversion, but they're were also freakin' hard. The Rogue Squadron and X-Wing series, Knights of the Old Republic and the Dark Forces Saga are considered among the best Star Wars games. Lego Star Wars widely popular, and considered one of the best Lego games.
  • Protection from Editors: Widely believed to be at least partly responsible for the stumbles in the Prequel Trilogy. When making the Original Trilogy Lucas consulted other film-makers he was on good terms with (including Steven Spielberg, Brian De Palma (who famously re-wrote the original film's opening crawl to what we finally saw), Francis Ford Coppola, and of course, Lawrence Kasdan) and awkward dialogue was frequently replaced with ad-libbed lines. By the time of the Prequels, most of Lucas' film-industry friends weren't available, and everyone else was far more hesitant to criticize or question the man who invented Star Wars.
  • Retcon:
    • The majority of the expanded universe after Disney purchased the franchise and introduced the sequel trilogy. However, even before the Disney purchase retcons weren't uncommon in vast, old expanded universe, with new works often conflicting with and taking precedence over the older, established canon.
    • Before the prequel trilogy, or even Return of the Jedi, most of what we knew about characters' histories or life before the Empire came from books and the movie novelizations approved by George Lucas.
      • Luke and Leia were originally four years old when their mother died and their father turned to the dark side and Anakin wasn't even aware that his wife ever pregnant.
      • Lightsabers originally enjoyed widespread use by the public, not just the Jedi Order.
      • Darth Vader originally was said to have lost his hand, and nearly his life, during a brutal punishment by the emperor for the Death Star's destruction.
      • Jabba the Hut was originally described as a shaggy, bipedal creature.
  • Rewatch Bonus: The fact that the reveal that Vader is Luke's father causes this is why the twist works so well.
  • Rooting for the Empire: Combine the sky-high Evil Is Cool factor of Darth Vader and Palpatine, a varied set of particularly stylish and intimidating uniforms for the stormtroopers and other military personnel, a fleet composed of almost nothing BUT Cool Starships, a comparatively milquetoast opposition and the fact that they replaced a corrupt, obstructive bureaucracy, and you have a recipe for one of the most sinister-yet-endearing villainous forces ever created. There is a reason why the 501st Legion, the largest Star Wars cosplaying organization on the planet, themed itself after the bad guys...
  • Sacred Cow: The original trilogy. Go on, just try to tell someone you don't like it or even suggest it might have some shortcomings.
  • The Scrappy: In order of appearance (and hatred), C-3PO and the Ewoks in the original trilogy, Jar Jar, and Anakin in the prequels.
    • Base Breaker: Anakin's fanbase vs. hatedom is evenly split between those who liked or hated the prequels. Within the fans whom solely liked the originals, the Ewoks are more of this instead with discussion on wheather the Ewoks are the start of Lucas making mistakes or should be viewed more positively in light of Jar Jar's antics. Within the prequel fanbase the criticism torwards Jar Jar is either justified or overinflated by those whom hated the prequels against a character that wasn't that annoying or stereotypical in hindsight.
    • Vindicated by History: C-3PO is much more fondly remembered nowadays by all sides of the spectrum.
  • Shocking Swerve: Rare successful examples: Vader's being Luke's father and Leia's being his sister. Neither is hinted at in any way (especially the second), but they're regarded as great twists all the same.
  • So Cool It's Awesome: The original trilogy, particularly A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back (Return of the Jedi is starting to gain more approval), recieved critical acclaim and is beloved by many fans of sci-fi and film to the point of being considered must-see films in many people's eyes due to its enormous impact on culture. While the prequels are more divisive, they have their fans and both trilogies contributed to forming a very large and passionate fanbase that is still going strong nearly forty years later.
  • Stoic Woobie: Princess Leia.
  • Tastes Like Diabetes: A common accusation from some fans is the willingness to stoop down and appeal to kids, particularly with elements like the dialogue and goofy characters like ewoks and battle droids. The insane amount of merchandise and endeavors the series gets involved in also is a target of hate.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: The revisions made to the original trilogy were not well received by all fans. Those who grew up with the original trilogy and were considerably outraged about the changes that were made to the story and the music. And don't even mention the issue of Greedo shooting first.
    • This will be more prominent than ever now that the Blu-Ray release of the Original Trilogy has had even MORE changes to it.
      • Let's face it, Star Wars IS this trope, because even if we did get remastered versions of the original theatrical versions, people are still likely to complain for some reason.
  • They Just Didn't Care: A frequent criticism of George Lucas and the prequels is that he just didn't seem all that interested in the story he was trying to tell.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Darth Maul, one of the most badass characters in The Verse, after killing Qui-Gon (previously established as quite the badass himself)), lets Obi-Wan slooooooooooowly flip up onto the ledge behind Maul, and Maul just stands there and lets Obi-Wan kill him. They had Two more movies or more to keep him around as a villain, and a full-scale war in which to give him a decent death. Nope, we get stuck with Dooku, a talkative old guy, and Grievous, a Dirty Coward Evil Cripple in a crappy mech-suit as villains for the next two movies.
    • Hey, at least Dooku was played by Christopher Lee, which is always awesome. Grievous, on the other hand...
    • Averted; He is back and kicking ass in Star Wars: The Clone Wars for this exact reason.
    • Both Fetts are seen as awesome characters by a good number of the fans, who also think they deserved better send-offs. As compensation, Boba's death was overridden to allow him survive in the Expanded Universe.
      • In Boba Fett's case, George Lucas himself stated that he would've given Boba a larger role had he realized how popular he was.
  • Too Cool to Live: Too many to count. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Qui-Gon Jinn, Mace Windu, Jango Fett, Count Dooku, General Grievous, Darth Maul. Awesomely subverted by Boba Fett and Darth Maul who were simply too cool to die and were retconned as having survived their deaths — Boba managed to fight his way out of the Sarlacc; Darth Maul somehow made his way to the planet Lotho Minor and eked out an existence there until his brother found him.
  • Visual Effects of Awesome: Industrial Light and Magic was made for this series and many of the special effects in the original films hold up remarkably well.
    • And would you believe that the guy behind the lightsaber effect was also the guy who founded the unpopular AKOM?
  • Wangst: Anakin does this in Episode II and III. A notable example being his complaining about having to wait to take the Jedi trials — ironically proving why Obi-Wan wants him to wait.
  • What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?: According to Word Of God. Lucas first claimed that Star Wars was for kids to defend the blunders in The Phantom Menace and seems to be leaning more towards this as time goes onnote , probably as a way to claim that he knows what he's doing and that his various blunders are justified. He also used a similar defense for Red Tails.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not Political?: Some viewers have noted that the Prequel Trilogy has a lot of things that could be construed as attacks against George W. Bush and conservatism in general, especially when using Palpatine to pass similar decrees. Lucas insists that Palpatine was actually be based on Richard Nixon and later Adolf Hitler.
  • WTH, Casting Agency?: Some fans don't have the highest opinion of the decision to cast Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu, feeling that the character was a waste of a good actor. Jackson is arguably the most talented actor in the prequel trilogy, yet Windu—a bald, stoic, Only Sane Man space monk—has probably the tiniest emotional range of any character in the main cast. Hell, his death scene is the only scene where Jackson actually gets a chance to show real emotion on screen.
  • Win the Crowd: A New Hope was initially seen as a bizarre avant-garde action movie when the initial trailers came out, but people went to see the movie anyway, figuring it would at least be So Bad, It's Good. The film managed to win the audience over with the opening crawl, seconds after the movie started, and kept audiences hooked with the initial blockade runner chase. John William's score probably had something to do with it.
  • The Woobie: Has its own page.
    The 2015 Marvel comic 

The 2015 Marvel comic

  • Art Evolution: Compare the artwork in issues 1 and 2 to that of only a few issues later (issue 5 for example) — the improvement in the art style is rather substantial.
  • Author's Saving Throw: The whole comic could be this for the theatrical cut of The Empire Strikes Back, explaining how Darth Vader learned about his son beforehand when remastered versions added additional dialogue where Palpatine had to confirm it to him.
  • Broken Base: The reveal of Sana Solo, Han's wife, has broken the fanbase in two. Some are happy to see a badass woman of colour, others are enraged at Remember the New Guy being in effect, and that it makes a lot of Han's actions in the original trilogy look a lot Harsher in Hindsight. (In particular, the "I love you." "I know." scene from Empire.)
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: Sana Solo. Many a fan freaked when she was introduced and what her existence implied.
  • What an Idiot: Luke, what on Earth made you think that going after Darth Vader when he had recently killed Obi-Wan was a good idea? You've barely been trained to use the Force and wield a lighstaber!