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Now they're just doing it on purpose
"I tell you, Satan's gonna have no trouble taking over here 'cause all the women are gonna say: "What a cute butt." "He's Satan!" "You don't know him like I do." "He's the Prince of Darkness!" "I can change him.""
When a fandom takes a controversial or downright villainous character and downplays his flaws, often turning him into an object of desire in the process.
This can run into conflict with the opinions of writers not willing to retool the character to fit this appetite. Executive Meddling in this arena often results in quick Woobiefication (deep devotion by contrary fans) or even Badass Decay. In fanfiction, they are frequently the object of the local Mary Sue, who uses the power of love to redeem the character. In extreme cases, the affection these characters receive from fans can lead them to forget that they're actually still supposed to be villains, meaning that even the mildest and most obvious act of villainy that these characters commit can be blown out of proportion by their fans and viewed as the production team attempting to force them to commit 'out-of-character' acts of atrocity.
Common reasons for this include the character being wicked in a classy or cool way, or a deliberate contrast to a hero they find too squeaky-clean (or stupid). A physically attractive character is much more likely to be subject to this trope than a physically ugly one; Beauty Equals Goodness, after all, and shallow as it may be it seems that for some fans this is the case even when the character's beauty only does extend to their appearance. It is possibly a real-life example of All Girls Want Bad Boys (most victims of this trope are male; females who perform similar actions tend to be hated for exactly the same actions). Characters of this type are also often prime repositories for Fetish Fuel, so softening their darker aspects may in some cases be a fan's self-justification for her own Perverse Sexual Lust.
It also helps that these characters are make-believe, and their faults are therefore informed qualities attributed to them by the author; it is much easier for people to forgive and overlook the negative qualities of a fictional character or to stress the Freudian Excuses that provide them with a vaguely sympathetic back-story than it is to do the same for people in real-life. Someone who waxes lyrical over a Draco In Leather Pants would in all likelihood detest someone with the exact same qualities whom they may encounter in Real Life, sympathetic back-story or not - it is much easier to derive affection and amusement for such characters if you don't have to deal with them in person on a frequent basis, or if their actions have no real world consequences.
In fairness, more than a few authors have written morally amibiguous characters, then act surprised when sections of a fandom embrace them as heroic. This is dirty pool. The personal nature of morality means that actions one person finds to be equatable to dog-kicking will seem perfectly justified, even pragmatic to another, especially if it's of the Designated Evil variety. This is especially common with the Magnificent Bastard and the Designated Villain. This can be especially true if the setting is the Crapsack World or World Half Empty: in a state of moral ambiguity, if the heroes are not good, and the bystanders are not innocent, audiences will naturally root for the coolest character. Furthermore, authors should never expect the character they wrote as deliberately unnattractive, physically or emotionally, to not be anyone else's Fetish Fuel. You just never know what people are going to like.
Named for a term in Harry Potter fandom for the most sympathetic Fan Fic portrayals of Draco Malfoy, who in Canon is a petty Spoiled Brat and admittedly pitiable annoyance. A fanfic series authored/assembled by Cassandra Claire titled The Draco Trilogy featured Draco as a clever, snarky Anti Hero and had him wear leather pants. While the story was somewhat justified by being from his skewed point of view, the characterization soon became standard Fanon even among people who weren't explicitly Draco fans.
Interestingly, this happened before Draco's characterization in the books became somewhat pitiable, if not sympathetic. Nevertheless, JK Rowling frequently admitted she was bothered that characters like Draco (and Snape) were popular for all the wrong reasons.
For other cases where the audience embraces a villain, see Unintentionally Sympathetic. For what often happens to one or more of the original protagonists, see Ron The Death Eater.
Character Tropes in danger of becoming Dracos in Leather Pants:
On the verge of being a Subjective Trope, especially when the character in question is not purely villainous. Editors should take caution to avoid Complaining About Characters You Think Are Overrated.
When dealing with a controversial character, please include concrete examples of Fan Wank. Examples include: Alternate Character Interpretation subsets, rationalization or denial of Kick The Dog moments, and interpreting Fanon as canon. The best examples involve minor villains with little in the way of obvious sex appeal (as the trope namer).
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Anime
- This trope has been applied to nearly all of Ranma 1/2 's characters, depending on the writer's well-intended rationalization of a character's comedy-prone, ridiculously over-the-top personality. The mildest, but still pervasive, application is usually on Nabiki Tendo; since she is a relatively levelheaded and cerebral character, most Fan Fic writers downplay her selfishness. Naturally, Rumiko Takahashi — her creator — describes that flaw as the reason she is funny.
- Some Fanon takes on characters such as this have gotten so bad that a lot of people remember them as canon. For instance, people will remember Shampoo attacking the attempted wedding at the end of the series, but will somehow conveniently forget Ukyo's taking part in it... or even claim that she was defending everybody from Shampoo! Even a cursory glance at the manga will tell anyone this isn't so, and yet the Lionized Ukyo Who Defends Ranma and Akane's Love persists.
- Let's put this straight - basically, each and every Ranma 1/2 character applies. The series is populated almost entirely by thoughtless, selfish, violent, manipulative, borderline insane (and, somehow, still likeable) jerks. Of course, all of them have fans who are quick to forget their faults and, given that all the cast is equally bad, this is enough to make their favourite character into a crystal-clear hero. For an example of this, one should just read a random fanfic. ANY fanfic.
- This
series comes quite close to subverting the trope by mixing pretty good characterization with a number of undiscussed years in which character development may have occurred.
- The traitorous Gin Ichimaru of Bleach has gone as far as to place fifth in a character poll. Make note what a feat this is for a show with a cast of a good 200-something characters. Who can blame 'em, though? The guy has very good manners and the voice of an angel.
- There are also a disturbing number of legions of die-hard Szayel-Apollo Granz fans, some of whom justify his hideous sadism with Fanon that he was the abused Arrancar, and more who found his demise at the hands of fellow Mad Scientist Mayuri Kurotsuchi horribly unfair, rather than fitting. And look at his pretty pink hair!
- ...Why would anyone want to justify that? Hideous sadism, combined with fiendishly good looks and androgyny, is exactly what makes him so attractive in the first place.
- Gin does kinda give the feeling that he may not be too bad a guy and he may have good reasons. It helps that there's little hint as to whether those are good or bad reasons.
- This troper has been finding an increase in this amongst fans of the espada Ulquiorra, who are jumping to his defense in lieu of his admittedly touching demise, excusing and even outright denying that he's even a wee bit of a Manipulative Bastard. This is despite the fact that he made Orihime have to choose between her friends' lives and her freedom and later makes her pledge her existence to Aizen. Instead his pondering about emotions is amplified and his attempts to manipulate Orihime is made into him being the one to make Orihime stronger, since she doesn't end up playing along in doing what he expects and continues to stand by her friends. I guess you can't be a Manipulative Bastard unless your plot actually works.
- Being a bishoujo series as well as a Gag Series that depends on Character Exaggeration, Galaxy Angel wouldn't be Galaxy Angel if they didn't do this intentionally. We therefore end up with a bunch of McDucks who are marketed by their creators as lovable characters that the audience should want to be with. The most obvious example is Mint, whose scheming makes use of her odd pint-size cuteness for fraud — she once claimed that she and Vanilla were destitute and suicidal to get money out of a semi driver, despite her already being loaded. Even her more selfless videogame persona, which the anime parodies, is shrewd and selfish to a point.
- Dark Magical Girl and self-professed lone wolf Nao Yuuki is a frequent recipient of the "leather pants" treatment in Mai-HiME fandom, and is often paired with Natsuki, the girl she blames for putting out one of her eyes! Must be something about the claws...or the red hair.
- Nina Wang still manages to retain some degree of sympathy from Mai-Otome audiences, who are willing to downplay her accidentally killing Erstin Ho, and then killing tens of thousands of innocent people to please her father by stating that she was merely a pawn of the Big Bad when it happened.
- Shizuru Fujino's original incarnation in Mai-HiME took her lesbian crush to obsessive and possibly predatory extremes. Nonetheless, being The Ojou and an Onee Sama meant she was the most popular character amongst the show's female fandom.
- The four members of Schwarz in Weiss Kreuz serve as the protagonists' Evil Counterparts and spend most of their time unrepentantly organizing mass murder and social chaos when they're not tormenting the main characters or, in the case of one member, torturing priests to death for fun; but somehow, they manage to have as large a fan following as the series' protagonists.
- Light Yagami from Death Note, the sociopathic manipulative Magnificent Bastard Villain Protagonist who would literally kill his father if he got in the way (and probably would have if Mello hadn't done it for him), has no qualms about killing his only love interest, kills God knows how many people every minute, and declares himself God of the new world where everyone will bow to him.
- L has more fangirls, though.
- Mello gets his fair share of fangirls, seeing as he's also an incredibly diabolical sociopath who probably injects melted chocolate into his veins...and he's the only one of the characters who actually wears form-fitting leather.
- Seiichi Yukimura and Keigo Atobe in The Prince of Tennis, and by extension, their teams (Rikkaidai and Hyoutei Gakuen).
- It's not that Keigo Atobe is a horrible person. It's just that he's a Magnificent Bastard who can be ruthless on the courts and has the biggest court presence in the series, but also has genuine Pet The Dog moments (like the "Atobe kara no Okurimono" movie). Some of his fans take their love of him a bit too far: they scream "OMG ORE-SAMA YAAAAAAAY!" at the sight of him, mindlessly gush over his good looks and twist him into some sort of selfless, gorgeous White Prince who shall be adored and loved, while bashing whoever looks at him wrong (specially Ryoma, and sometimes Yukimura if they're Atobe/Sanada fangirls). Basically, they strip Atobe of what makes him fun and enjoyable and try to pass their version of Atobe as Better Than Canon.
- Seto Kaiba from YuGiOh. Not evil per se, but cold and self-centered throughout the series. Even though some sympathize with him due to his thankless childhood at times to the point where they have argued that he is really a scrappy, others just can't resist his looks, wealth, power, and attitude.
- The latter segment is lampshaded by the popularity of Hell Kaiser Ryo in followup series YuGiOhGX, who had fewer redeeming qualities until his Heroic Sacrifice.
- Other examples, though only at first, were Edo Phoenix and 5Ds' Jack Atlus.
- Akito from Fruits Basket, despite being an obsessive Control Freak that liked torturing his family members and planned to lock one of them in a cage for the rest of his life, was treated sympathetically by the fans almost entirely because he was a cute bishonen. When it was finally revealed that Akito was not a bishonen, but a girl, those fangirls turned on Akito.
- For what it's worth, Akito does become a more sympathetic and less openly evil character when the backstory and motivations are fleshed out in the plot, but that was after the big reveal. The fan girls had based their opinion on the abusive psycho Akito; they thought the Moral Event Horizon was crossed by Akito's only pretending to be male. Most of us reading here would probably disagree with that idea...
- And Akito's gender charade was not of her own choosing - she was raised that way. And very clearly resents those responsible for it. Hell, Aki-chan probably wouldn't be a crazy abusive shut-in if it weren't for the gender abuse courtesy of good ol' Mum. Natsuki Takaya either planned this from practically the first volume or painted herself into a corner and managed one hell of a save.
- Word Of God says that Takaya had the Bridget dropping planned since the beginning. So she played a huge Batman Gambit on her audience... and the results were special.
- My understanding of Fruits Basket is that the entire point of the series is to help young people discover themselves and celebrate their own individuality, and appreciate what is good, and not so good, in both themselves and others. It also showcases how, most times, hatreds are simply caused by personality conflict, but that doesn't mean that the personality that conflicts with yours is "bad". To cast anybody as the "villain" in this series is therefore missing the entire point. There is no villain - everybody has good things about them.
- "Host Samurai", a vampire who was forced to join the Gantz team, is in danger of becoming this. Never mind that he's killed numerous people including both the main character and his brother.
- Believe it or not, Spandam from One Piece has a small Draco In Leather Pants fandom. He even wears a large amount of leather on the show, which may or may not be part of the reason.
- Parodied in Pokemon. Meowth of Team Rocket has this with Giovanni, even though he frequently mistreats him and is shown to be ruthless. Meowth imagines him as simply a nice guy with a gruff exterior who likes to go shirtless. Played straight with Harley and Paul in the fandom, however.
- It has been done with Zagato from Magic Knight Rayearth — treating him as the hero of the first story arc... despite his being willing to lie to, manipulate, and casually destroy his underlings. He may have had motives we can sympathize with, but still... he was going to kill the only genuine, complete innocents in the entire affair. And he was going to destroy the world.
- The Varia from Katekyo Hitman Reborn, further enforced by the fact that they really do all wear leather pants. Even the robot.
- Quite a few fangirls of Creed from Black Cat excuse his actions of stalking Train, murdering Train's first (and at the time only) friend Saya, trying to murder Train's other friends, and murdering countless innocents for world domination because he was picked on when he was young.
- Schneizel el Britannia. Enough said.
- A less frequently noted example would be the pre-R2 Cornelia li Britannia, who is all too happy to enforce Britannia's MO of Social Darwinism, whether it be through conquering and colonizing Saudi Arabia in her debut appearance, slaughtering civilians to draw out Zero, almost agreeing to sacrifice the hostages in the hotel hijacking incident if not for the presence of her beloved little sister Euphemia in the building (all of which is deduced by Lelouch himself), and even chewing out said sister for desiring to stand up to the rule of discrimination against Numbers by selecting Eleven Suzaku Kururugi as her personal Knight. Supposedly it has to do with her relationship with Euphie, her badassitude, and of course the threads.
- Also, the more rabid Lelouch Lamperouge fans seem to completely forget and/or cheerfully hand wave that he's a Byronic Hero Villain Protagonist and paint him as some sort of perfect, angelical victim who never ever did anything wrong in the series.
- Conversely, many viewers also paint him in an incredibly negative light, even favoring characters that do less good throughout the series. (Oh, and a Byronic Hero is by definition not perfect in the least. It pretty much describes what Lelouch is: a character with both good and bad tendencies.)
- The same is also true of Suzaku Kururugi, whose patricide and complicity in genocide most of his fans tend to gloss over.
- A lot of it has to do with him having his heart in the right place, yet being tragically oblivious to his side's own problems, though he does tread into Knight Templar territory in R2.
- Given the shows ubiquitous moral ambiguity, nearly every character who isn't The Scrappy suffers from this. (Characters such as the aforementioned Lelouch and Suzaku have been concurrently DILP and The Scrappy at times, depending on the fanbase and circumstances.)
- Envy has quite a lot of fangirls, despite the fact that he's a genderless (at least in the manga) psychopath who has crossed the Moral Event Horizon a loooong time ago. Can't say I blame them, though. He's a good-looking psychopath. At least in his usual form.
- Ali Al-Saachez from Gundam 00 has a lot of rabid fans who bash the people whom he's murdered just For The Evulz ( Intrepid Reporter Kinue Crossroads is still called a "dumb whore" for trusting Ali and then being murdered by him in cold blood) and cheer when he thrashes the Moral Event Horizon. His numerous evil actions make him one of the biggest Complete Monsters in the entire Gundam franchise; and yet, many of his fans love to downplay these to play up his impressive piloting skills and his rugged good looks. The infamous "Prince Ali" meme says it all in a single song parody. "Prince Ali, Mighty is He", etc.
- The Fan Love is understandable because Ali is such an unashamed, monstrous Blood Knight mercenary villain who revels in murdering puppies and serves it all up with a heaping helping of ham. Really, Ali is popular because he's simply so damn entertaining.
- While Nena Trinity was the Scrappy of the series for a long time, and while several of the fans she did have at the time were fully aware she's a crazy Yandere and didn't downplay her acts of villainy, the recent airing of the English dub on the Sci-Fi Channel seems to have given her a new fanbase that finds her utterly cute even when she's blowing up weddings out of boredom. She did get Rescued From The Scrappy Heap somewhat by helping Setsuna out of a pinch just to spite on her "mistress" Wang Liu-Mei, an even bigger Scrappy in season two, but that doesn't really excuse the wedding massacre.
- When Nena was killed in battle by Louise in episode 21 of season two, she either lost her leather pants completely or had her DILP status escalate, depending on who you ask. On one hand, even some former fans stopped liking her after she revealed her gloating (and at least partially underwent Character Derailment by losing what few standards she had); on the other, she's had rabid fans coming out of the woodwork and bashing Louise Halevy to pieces, accusing her of crossing the Moral Event Horizon and being an even more loathesome bitch than Nena, despite the fact that brutal as the battle might've been, she was quite justified in killing the girl who murdered her entire family AND crippled her physically and emotionally for no reason other than boredom.
- That, and some rabid Louise fans have apparently made her a borderline DILP, bashing Nena and her fans of all kinds (even those who are aware of her flaws) while forgetting that, even with her justification, poor Louise did cross both the Despair and the Moral Event Horizons... though she wasn't that far gone and managed to return from both of them, thanks to Saji and Setsuna. Because in their minds, no one has any right to like Nena and everyone who does is a shallow drooling fanbrat who only sees the tits.
- Unless they simply enjoy physically attractive CompleteMonsters like Prince Ali up there. You can like characters as characters without approving of their actions.
- Let's not forget Hallelujah, Allelujah's Superpowered Evil Side. While Allelujah himself is a decent, mild-mannered guy, Hallelujah is a big bastard who enjoys killing his opponents in slow and painful manners and causing Alle a lot of angst. The fangirls? Woobify him and make him into a sex god in their fics. Go figure.
- Figurable. Fans like actions and Stuff Blowing Up. Allelujah himself is very reluctant in blowing things up, and when he's in control, fans see his strength unimpressive. But Hallelujah? Being a big bastard who enjoys killing only means that the fans will be offered a lot of actions and Stuff Blowing Up that they are looking for, not to mention when Hallelujah is in control, he is a very formidable fighter and is more prone to awesomeness in that method. See where the preference over Allelujah come from?
- Vegeta of Dragonball Z is another example. Though his behavior displayed can be largely seen as rude and unprincipled, Vegeta has become possibly the second most popular character in the series, surpassed only by Goku. This, even though he's murdered entire worlds (Planet Arlia in the anime), beat up little kids (Gohan, Dende, and both incarnations of his son Trunks), endangered Earth several times because of his ego (allowing Cell to become Perfect), and slaughtered innocent people(the Namekians he encountered while on Namek among countless others). Abrasive attitude aside, his popularity was so high that Akira Toriyama had to resurrect him after his death at the hands of Frieza. Even though a majority of his actions throughout the series were either self-serving or evil, fans have pardoned him many times over, citing how Vegeta only became the way he did because of how Frieza forced him to commit all those evil acts (it's a nature vs nurture debate). If this argument is reasonable, then the two-bit villain Cui, who does not have the fan sympathy that Vegeta has, must also be a sympathetic, misunderstood little boy — his planet was also destroyed by Frieza, as revealed in the anime, and he was a conscript in Frieza's army. Vegeta's actions were such that even Piccolo had to point out how Vegeta was responsible for too much suffering and too many deaths for him to be allowed to enter into Heaven and keep his body intact moments before Vegeta sacrificed himself to try to destroy Majin Buu.
- On top of all that, after Vegeta was resurrected the first time, he got to bang the token female of the series despite his directly threatening to kill her on Namek, her condemning his merciless killing of innocent Namekians, and her rooting against him when he fought against Zarbon the second time.
- To add to the nature vs nurture debate of Vegeta being an unwilling conscript of Frieza, it's worth noting that the Saiyans were already a race of brutal and destructive conquerors themselves LONG before Frieza enslaved them. This troper thinks it's only safe to assume that even if Vegeta wasn't made a servant to Frieza, he really wouldn't have turned out all that differently under his father King Vegeta.
- Enslaved? I thought the Saiyans willingly joined, and only later started to rebel.
- Vegeta's the biggest example, but a couple of other characters have small DILP-type fandoms. The phenomena has been witnessed even with the most evil and irredeemable characters in the series. Cell is helped along by the fact that his final form is both handsome and magnificently sarcastic, but Frieza has zero excuse unless you're into short, effeminate lizard-men who wear lipstick and run naked.
- Frieza also has his fair share of fans who justify everything he does and don't seem to mind that he's a ruthless killer. His 'Draco' status is much smaller compared to Vegeta but there are people who love him to the same degree and don't believe he can do any wrong.
- Outlaw Star has Harry Macdougal, who gets love from fangirls despite being an Ax Crazy Stalker With A Crush. This troper has heard them justify pairing him with Melfina because, and I quote, "They look so cute together!" Yeah, it was really cute the way Harry slapped Melfina around when she turned down his advances and tried to kidnap her.
- You all know Johan Liebert, right? Classy, attractive, and utterly inhuman psychopath willing to devote an exorbent amount of time Mind Raping and driving Innocent Bystanders to kill themselves just for the sheer hell of it? Turns out that a small but vocal fraction of the fandom has decided to glaze over every bit of that description that came after "attractive" and fangirl him with no irony whatsoever. Yay for Completely Missing The Point! Most of the fandom is thankfully more sane than that, but there is still a surprisingly large percentage of, "Yes, he's a total sociopath, but he's a sexy total sociopath."
- Despite being one of the least sympathetically portrayed of all the Akatsuki, Hidan from Naruto has some of the most die-hard fangirls. Yes, that Hidan. Apparently it's okay to sadistically murder people if you have white hair and walk around with your midriff exposed. As long as you're sexy enough, the Fangirls will go to any lengths to justify your sociopathic behavior, up to and including: inventing sympathetic backstory where there was none; pulling Freudian Excuses out of their asses; and coming up with lame excuses to vilify your victims. And they won't stop harassing the Shikamaru fans.
- And what about Itachi Uchiha? He killed his entire family and his legion of fangirls defen- oh wait, he was ordered to.
- In Fushigi Yuugi, Nakago is pretty much permanently camped out on the wrong side of the Moral Event Horizon, while Suboshi crosses it in a shockingly horrible way about halfway through the series. However, a combination of tragic childhoods and Pet The Dog moments have earned both characters enough fan sympathy that Nakago shows up in slash fics all over the place, while Suboshi is a more popular match for Yui than her canon boyfriend, Tetsuya.
- Cain from God Child and Count Cain is pretty much this trope even within the universe of the manga. He goes to any length to get what he wants, kills people, digs up graves and is known as a womanizer but he's still lusted after by the women(and men...)of the series. It doesn't hurt that he's pretty. He's got a tragic past etc etc and the fangirls love him!
- Similarly Dr. Jizabel Disraeli who really IS a villan seems to have a lot of fangirls. He's crazy, tries to kill Cain and Merry Weather and steal his eyes along with wanting to hurt Cain because their father didn't pay attention to him instead of Cain. Yet he too is loved by the fangirls.
- Dr. Muraki from Yamino Matsuei(Descendantsof Darkness) is this trope. He rapes Hisoka and kills him, tries to rape Tsuzuki and wants to transplant his dead brother's consciousness into Tsuzuki so he can kill him yet in fandom he's either loved because he's an asshole or made up to be a pitiable creature who just needs love.
Comic Books
- Lampshaded in Miracleman with the "Bateses", a subculture that identifies itself with the supervillain Kid Miracleman/Johnny Bates. This idolization occurs after Bates personally murders most of London and the surrounding country side in grotesque and grisly fashion. We're talking solid grade A Nightmare Fuel here, easily. This is likely a parody of real-life skinheads/Neo-Nazis, who became quite popular in Britain and greater Europe a generation or so after WWII.
- Jhonen Vasquez seems to have an accidental habit of making these: His first creation, Johnny C from Johnny The Homicidal Maniac has an insane amount of fangirls (usually among the Gothic, Hot Topic-loving crowd) who claim that he's just misunderstood and lonely. They seem to overlook that Johnny is schizophrenic, psychotic, sociopathic, and Ax Crazy; that he killed an entire restaurant full of people because someone said he "looked wacky"; he has entire torture chambers in his Torture Cellar that contain God-knows-how-many people; he tried to murder the one girl who really liked him and drove her to become a recluse and hide in her apartment almost 24/7 out of paranoia; and he has killed numerous people for various insane reasons. Interestingly enough, Jhonen does portray Johnny as a sympathetic character a few times in the comics; and Johnny does live in a Crapsack World...
- Not just fangirls, my good troper; he's also either canonized by the Hot Topic/baby-bat subcatoegory of "NICE GUYS" (read: the emotionally manipulative sad sacks who make us all look like failures) as an exemplar of...I don't even know, it varies from "he's just misunderstood - like meeeee!" to "OMG HE REPRESENTS MY DARK AND VIOLENT INNER SELF and therefore must be sympathetic (because if he isn't then that means I too am an asshat)!" Batshit does not discriminate by gender. They also like to brush off his attempt to shank Devi and imply that she is a giant bitch for not loving him the way he is. ...I did mention the attempted shanking, yes?
- To get into even weirder territory, one-shot character Jimmy has a surprising number of fans who adore him (as well as sometimes pair him up with Nny). They of course, completely ignore the fact that Jimmy killed people to imitate Johnny's "murderous style" as well as try and get his attention. Not only that, but he was the person who brutally raped and killed a cheerleader that Johnny was accused of by a victim in a past issue. And there's also Johnny's complete distaste for Jimmy and what he's done, as one can tell by his infamous statement above.
- It doesn't help that his target audience consists predominantly of Goths and similar "outcasts" marginalized by mainstream culture; and that most (though certainly not all) of those who Johnny kills are the crapsack people well known for bullying, ostracising, and otherwise tormenting the "freaks" who make up the majority of Vasquez's pre-InvaderZim fans. Nny himself lampshades this in one killing spree by announcing the various "sins" of his victims as he's killing them; said spree being triggered by a Jerkass bystander offhandedly referring to him as a "fag". Of course, Nny has absolutely no qualms about killing innocent bystanders, a fact that many fans seem to miss. In fact, the only person who seems to be safe from the titular character's murderous psychopathology is Squee, who is himself portrayed as an embryonic Johnny, due to his crapsack parents and crapsack life. The Squee spinoff series strongly supports this interpretation.
- Dr. Doom can receive treatment of this nature from the fans; although he's a complex Evil Overlord with a strong (if warped) sense of nobility and a tendency towards frequent Bad Ass Crowning Moments Of Awesome to begin with, there is a tendency for some to create an over-exaggerated ideal of just how noble and benevolent he is, leading to some of his fans forgetting that he's still ultimately supposed to be the villain. His vanity, insecurity, egomania and brutality tend to be underplayed or ignored by these fans. As such, he can often get reduced to a benevolent but misunderstood genius who only wants to take over the world because he knows what's best for all of humanity, with little acknowledgement given of his negative qualities. Curiously, he is notoriously scarred and disfigured; his fan-worship is based more on his Bad Ass nature rather than his looks (although some tellings of the tale underplay the scarring he received). Writers who attempt to stress Doom's less-attractive qualities can be rejected quite vitriolically. (See Mark Waid's "Unbreakable" arc for a good example of this).
- The image of 'Doom as benevolent dictator' partially stems from a one-off book, Emperor Doom, in which Doom actually manages to conquer the Earth and begins to make numerous improvements in how things are run; this book is often used to reinforce the impression that Doom would be a great and benevolent leader if he managed to take over. It's worth noting that he manages this largely by brainwashing literally the entire planet into accepting his rule (goodbye, freedom of thought and dissent); and he ultimately gives it up and lets the heroes defeat him because he gets bored, suggesting that he's ultimately not as interested in 'making the world a better place for all' as many would like to think.
- Doom's heroic villain-type schemes are frequently used to test the convictions of the heroes and to increase the story complexity, so under the circumstances, this one isn't surprising.
- Venom and Carnage from Spiderman. Made worse that the alien symbiotes "costumes" are
High Octane Nightmare Fuel Fetish Fuel.
- Let's just say that in general, a lot of the really iconic comic book villains (Joker, Lex Luthor, Dr. Doom, etc.) receive so much love from the fans that they're no longer these wicked, irredeemable people you're supposed to root against. Nowadays, people root for some of these villains just as much as they do the heroes, if not moreso.
- Deadpool already had his own quirky Estrogen Brigade of women who loved him because he was a deformed, twisted, insane mercenary with a wacky sense of humor, but after X-Men Origins: Wolverine was released and he was played by Ryan Reynolds (who is, to say the least, a beefcake), he gained an army of teenage fangirls who think he's just a quirky, funny, gorgeous guy who doesn't see the error of his ways. Needless to say, Deadpool is kind of annoyed with them
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Film
Literature
- Murtagh from The Inheritance Cycle is loved by both fans and anti-fans alike. It is completely justified since he's the only likable character in the entire series.
- Petyr 'Littlefinger' Baelish in A Song Of Ice And Fire. He's a Magnificent Bastard with Chronic Backstabbing Disorder. His ultimate goals are rather unclear, as is just how much of the anarchy and war that dominates the books has been orchestrated by him. Corners of the fandom treat him like a divine saviour whose goals are all working to the benefit of the small folk, the people the wars have screwed over the most.
- As it turns out, there is also a small portion of the fandom that has decided, against all evidence, that Cersei Lannister is a tragic heroine trapped in abusive relationships with Jaime and Robert. Never mind the fact that she is the dominant one in both relationships, cheats on both Jaime and Robert whenever she can get away from it, repeatedly orders the execution of anyone who displeases her, and (with the possible exception of the aforementioned Littlefinger) is arguably more responsible than any other individual for completely screwing over all seven kingdoms. And how do her supporters try to justify this? By pointing out that she didn't get to marry the man she wanted. And this might have excused her actions, except for the fact that no one in the ASOIAF universe gets to marry the person they want to.
- The tortured, regretful Satan in John Milton's Paradise Lost has long been seen as more interesting than the cold and perfect God who shows up later in the epic poem. The poet William Blake famously remarked, "Milton was a true poet, and of the devil's party without knowing it."
- In addition to Draco, Harry Potter also gives us Severus Snape. This seems odd considering how he's described in the books as physically ugly, though Rowling herself suspects it's mainly a product of the attractiveness of the actors playing them in the movies.
- In that case Rowling may just be wrong, since Snape had a load of admirers before Rickman played him (and who nowadays prefer to think of him as not looking like Rickman in any way).
- Two words: Snape Wives
. The end.
- And also, all the mindboggling and whiny essays where some particularly rabid Snapefen twist the whole HP world to have Snape evading responsability for his actions. Some of these are featured here
- In fact, it seems as though anyone played by Alan Rickman is vulnerable. Even Judge Turpin.
- See this rather hilarious image
for the canon/fanon disparity in action.
- Is it worrying that this troper finds the "canon" Snape appearance in that picture to be TOTALLY AWESOME LOOKING!?
- In contrast, this troper thinks that Fanon Snape is absolutely terrifying-looking.
- Mercilessly parodied on Neil Cicierega's parody series Potter Puppet Pals, in which Snape alternates between murdering Ron and Harry for bothering him and saying things like "I love you kids." And dreaming that he's a beautiful milkmaid.
- There is at least one Fan Fic writer and "Snape fan" who has placed everything after "Goblet of Fire" into Dis Continuity so that her vision, which includes Snape as a cape-swishing Pureblood, remains intact. Because it's better to be Pureblood.
- One unrepentant Snape fangirl who went by Makani on Deviantart had at least a slightly more realistic notion of what Snape's opinion would be of a fangirl; in one brief comic
her self-insert Hogwarts student persona was acting up in class, so Snape nearly gave her a detention-whereupon she finished his sentence with an eager cry of "Detention?!" Snape hesitates for a moment. "...No. No detention. Ever," he replies, to a disappointed Makani.
- JKR has also spoken out against people who think "Voldy" just needs to be understood.
- Which is odd, given that the series is supposedly about "love". Shouldn't something like pity be shown?
- Unfortunately, while the earlier books make a point to try and show how everything is about your own choices, and no one is inherently evil, the last couple ignore that and show that Voldemort was evil from the get go, removing any hope for pity.
- Harry tries at the end of the final book. He doesn't understand.
- My Immortal, in addition to fitting this Trope to a T, at one point does, in fact, feature Draco in leather pants. But Snape appears as a voyeur and paedophile.
- And honestly, what else would you expect?
- Draco seems to get paired with Hermione a lot in fanfiction, even though in the canon he goes around calling her "Mudblood". It's been pointed out many times that this is the same thing as a black girl jumping in bed with a white boy who call her the "n" word.
- The same boy who wishes for her death in the second book, when he's TWELVE YEARS OLD. So it's like the black girl jumping in bed with the white boy who called her the "n" word and regularly attends KKK meetings, and eventually ends up working for the KKK (however reluctantly).
- Averted though with his dad Lucius, whose fans tend to appreciate him for the aristocratic, pimp cane accessorized bastard that he is without giving him the "Awww, he's really just a sexy Woobie!" treatment.
- In fact, Lucius provides an easy way for fanfic writers to portray Draco sympathetically. After all, if Lucius is an Abusive Parent (which isn't too far out, really) then Draco has a nice Freudian Excuse. And your story has a built-in villain, too!
- Puddy from Tales Of MU. Despite knowing pretty much nothing about her backstory or inner thoughts, her fans on the story's forum seem absolutely certain that she had a rotten home life and that this makes her a poor wonderful Woobie who just needs a hug. Don't mind her various assaults on the hero, her attack on the series' actual Woobie, or her abusive and bigoted attitude... HUG!
- It's been a while since this troper caught up with MU, but given that somewhere in the first couple of chapters Puddy claims that her mother has allowed her to subsist entirely on pudding pops and beer for several years, I would think the evidence for her backstory points to her actually being spoiled rotten.
- Or completely ignored by her uncaring parents?
- See also "The Man". This character has only appeared in three short flashback stories involving the protagonist's mother as a child. In the first one, he nearly drowns her. In the second, he tries to seduce her (she's 12). In the third, he impregnates her at the age of 15 and is confirmed as a Man Eating Demon. The reader reactions range from "Damn, he's smooth!" to "Let's wait to see some real evil before we judge him."
- Joren from Tamora Pierce's Protector of the Small quadrilogy got this for a while - in canon, he's radiantly beautiful to the point of being a White Haired Pretty Boy but also petty, bullying, sadistic, rich, conservative and homophobic. (You'd be surprised how the last two'll get ya in a young adult series by Tamora Pierce...) He exists to bully the heroine, stage a few hazings, half-assedly attempt to befriend her and die in a closet. He's received the Draco Malfoy treatment in fanfiction quite a bit, when he's written about at all. Despite how this would probably disturb the author resoundingly, he's usually paired off with the heroine.
- Raistlin Majere of the Dragonlance novels may qualify as this, although he has been a protagonist in some of the novels. He is definitely evil, and creepy-looking to boot, and yet he has a massive collection of slavering fangirls who write endless Mary Sue stories pairing him off. Which isn't to say that he isn't awesomely badass, because he is, but he's not somebody any sane person would be writing a fluffy romance fanfic about.
- Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights has received this treatment over the years, having become something of an archetype of the tortured-but-dashing Gothic Romantic Hero With A Heart Of Gold, up there with Mr. Darcy from Pride And Prejudice and Mr. Rochester from Jane Eyre. This completely overlooks the fact that, within the novel, he is presented as a repellent, violent and obsessively vindictive bully who spitefully destroys everyone who ever looked cross-eyed at him... and then, when they're dead, immediately does his best to destroy the lives of their children instead. He's not entirely unsympathetic, but neither is he in any way a hero or admirable / romantic figure, and Emily Bronte never intended him to be. Stephanie Meyer doesn't know this.
- For that matter, Rochester has received some of this over the years as well; however, whilst he's certainly no saint, he is arguably presented with enough Karmic Retribution for his misdeeds and expresses enough genuine regret for his actions to at least slightly redeem himself in the eyes of the reader, unlike the largely unrepentant Heathcliff (who's karmic payback, whilst present, is a bit more oblique).
- Emily Bronte may have foreseen this reaction when she created Isabella Linton, a silly teenager, who insists on perceiving Heathcliff as a Gothic Romantic Hero even though everybody around her tells her he is not that. It takes him hanging her pet dog before their elopement and then a few months (or was it years?) of an abusive marriage to get this idea out of her head.
- All over this very wiki, you'll find postings about how the protagonists of the
- William Hamleigh in Pillars of the Earth, a spoiled and sadistic noble, whom when his peasants cannot pay their taxes, rapes their wives and daughters as compensation. For some reason, certain fangirls wish that their fathers couldn't pay the taxes, so they could be brutally raped and tortured by William.
- Dracula pretty much popularized the "Sexy Vampire".
- Which is thoroughly disturbing considering in the original novel he was never portrayed as anything other than a hideous monster devoted to killing everyone and everything.
- Thank goodness for Orlok, who has managed to dodge this treatment. For now.
- Cthulhu.
- Got referenced in this
Irregular Webcomic strip (with link to this page, of course), when Cthulhu have problems dealing with fans wanting his autograph.
- Most of the males in the Black Jewels series fit this trope. Daemon and (his father) Saetan are literally written to be walking sex (moreso with Daemon, since Saetan is, well... aged) and are given sympathetic backstories and (generally) valid reasons to be total bastards. But think about it: they're both murderers (whether the people deserved it or not is debatable, depending on who it was. Some were caught in the crossfire, some didn't know better, some deserved worse, etc etc).
- Saetan, for instance, scared the SHIT out of people and used the memory of the event as a warning for what would happen if they sufficiently pissed him off. What did he do? In response to their basically killing his newborn son because he didn't accept their trade demands, he made an entire island and people cease to exist. Not killed. Not destroyed. Cease to exist. As in wiped them from the land, made the island, people and history never happen and wiped all record of them from the breeding lists and record that were kept by THE FREAKING CREATOR OF THE JEWELS. His own friends needed to change their shorts. Daemon and Lucivar only kill people (who usually do deserve it).
- And these are the 'heros'!
- Hell, even some of the bad guys are written this way.
- In defense of all the good guys, all three of the planes in this world are pretty much Sick Sad World's
- Ashfur, especially after he tried to murder the main characters because the cat he assumed was their mom chose another mate instead him over a year ago. To the point where people add completely pointless things to the short list of tragedies in his life to try and justify his actions. There are even some people who believe that every bad thing he did was the author changing the plot in order to appease Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw fans. Seriously.
- To a certain extent, Thrawn from the Star Wars Expanded Universe. Yes, Zahn made him and the other Imperials a lot more complex and generally admirable than the boring and formulaic Card Carrying Villain types that a lot of the lesser authors use in the 'verse. He wasn't evil, not quite. But he was very ruthless, pragmatic, and above all, Imperial. He wasn't above You Have Failed Me, even if he needed more of a reason and was more forgiving of crew who weren't at fault. He lied, he was willing to hand Leia and her unborn twins to an insane Dark Jedi, he tortured, he did have a temper and showed it. Often, though, he's portrayed purely as someone who did what he had to do and chose to become a Necessary Evil. It probably helps that he is a mysterious alien Grand Admiral in an Empire prejudiced against aliens, and he has pale blue skin and glowing red eyes.
- Anakin Skywalker is pretty much Draco In Leather Pants. There's also a surprising amount of Kyp Durron slash fic out there. (Not quite the same thing, but he blew up a couple systems.)) This troper has also seen a few Luke fangirls on theforce.net fetishize Imperial uniform from Dark Empire.
- In a way, it's sort of his author's fault. Later-written books handling a younger Thrawn do hint that he saw something coming and wanted to prepare for it, and generally he's not totally unsympathetic. But even in Outbound Flight, where he is relatively outspoken to his Ishmael and has a brother and a people, he is pragmatic, ruthless, a terrible enemy, and has plans involving letting his friends get captured.
Live Action TV
- (Pre-souled) Spike from Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Inadvertedly Lamp Shaded in the episode Crush when Dawn lists " he wears cool LEATHER coats and stuff" as a reason she likes him.
- Billy Mitchell was introduced to Eastenders as an abusive bastard who beat the living hell out of his nephew Jamie. For some unfathomable reason, fans liked him, and he was slowly turned into a gentle, nice and weak man, who was given all the "touching" plot-lines about a nice man with a hard life, totally ignoring the earlier child-abuse plotlines.
- It's occasionaly mentioned by his family and even by himself sometimes as a warning not to let his temper get the better of him, especially after he winds up with custody of a child, again.
- The Fonz in Happy Days started out as a much darker, slightly menacing figure who had helped out Richie Cunningham a few times for reasons of his own, but who nonetheless was supposed to be an intimidating Anti Hero at best. His popularity was such, however, that he was made a regular of the series. Over time he became the central figure of the series, taking almost superhuman qualities, before ending up as a mentor figure and a night school teacher(!). Amusingly, this progressive character creep eventually came back to bite them, as the Fonz literally became the prototype example for which the term "Jumping The Shark" was named.
- Sheriff Donald Lamb, who some fans loved even though he was a petty, self-absorbed himbo/slacker who ignored heroine Veronica Mars when she attempted to file a report on being drugged and raped. While series creator Rob Thomas and actor Michael Muhney acknowledged that they went overboard in the pilot in order to make Lamb an unlikeable jerk and even gave the character a sliver of sympathy by way of revealing that Lamb was abused as a child by his father, Thomas refused to humanize Lamb or negate the events of the pilot (as many fans of the character had done via fanfictions), via having Lamb tell Veronica he still didn't believe her claim of being raped and to further taunt her over the issue during season three. Thomas then promptly had Lamb largely absent from season three's rape storyline and promptly had his head bashed in during season three's second arc, at the hands of a crystal meth addict.
- The Master from Doctor Who, particularly in his Anthony Ainley and John Simm incarnations. In fan fiction, he's usually not portrayed as the murderous psychopath he is (he wiped out a whole portion of the universe!), but as just a mischievous, quirky, sexy guy who just wants to have some Foe Yay with The Doctor.
- It is possible that the only reason the Delgado Master gets less of this is that most fans don't think the Third Doctor deserves Foe Yay. It's not a cute couple unless both halves are cute. Which is not only somewhat irrational, but also not entirely fair to the Third Doctor, who had hardly suffered a beating with the ugly stick.
- A weird example is with the Daleks. You'd think what are essentially tentacled flesh-lump space-Nazis in salt-shaker-shaped mechanical bodies wouldn't have fangirls, but there is an inordinate amount of fanart portraying said fangirls hugging, kissing, and/or stalking Daleks. Most played for laughs, but some seem quite serious. Hybridized Dalek Sec having fangirls is a bit more understandable since he is at least humanoid and played somewhat sympathetically, but he isn't really what most would define as a hottie.
- Up to including Katy Manning posing nude with a Dalek. For real.
- As Gaius Baltar has his cult of rabid, beyond-reason believers in the new Battlestar Galactica, so does he have his cult of rabid, beyond-reason believers in the real world. It helps that no one on that show is cut-and-dry good or evil; but as evil acts go, Gaius has performed many of the most shamelessly selfish ones.
- But unlike some conventionally morally superior characters, Gaius has never deliberately harmed anyone in a manner more serious than sleeping with someone else. His mixture of bad luck, gullibility with pretty women and unthinking selfishness just tends to lead to very, very bad results. But as Lee Adama would say, evil would require deliberateness, and Gaius never intends for the bad things to happen.
- Although his deliberately not revealing the Cylon sleeper he'd discovered (Boomer) came pretty damn close to deliberate harm.
- Gul Dukat of Star Trek Deep Space Nine was rather too well-liked by fans, given that he was essentially a Space Nazi. The writers kept trying desperately to give him Kick The Dog moments to cement his villainy once and for all, and even tried to send him past the Moral Event Horizon, but it never seemed to matter. It probably didn't help that the show was about Black And Gray Morality and deconstructing The Federation, which meant most of the ''protagonists'' were occasionally kicking puppies, too (we're looking at you, Sisko).
- Consider that Dukat did indeed have several Pet The Dog moments, and that he claims to have made attempts to make Terok Nor a better place for the Bajoran slaves (possible; though there is no proof, he may indeed have been better than most of the other overseers); he really did appear to be a character capable of salvation. The show even Ship Teased him and Kira. This makes his crash HARD when he pledges to kill all Bajorans and then attempts to end all life. Yah...
- Alex Krycek from The X Files. Krycek has betrayed (and tried to kill) Mulder and Scully on numerous occasions, but some fans think he and Mulder make a cute couple.
- It doesn't help that in a later season (and a very odd scene), he actually kissed Mulder....
- Jiro from Kamen Rider Kiva is a sociopathic Wolf Man who regularly kills and eats random women on the street, but this does not stop fangirls from drooling over him.
- Guy of Gisborne in the BBC's Robin Hood is a truly despicable human being with no real redeeming qualities, at least at the beginning of the show. He has, for example, abandoned his own bastard infant in the forest and then beaten the mother when she confronted him about it. But damn it, he's hot. His actor, Richard Armitage, said in an interview that his objective was to make the viewers' skin crawl during Guy's interactions with Marian. As the shipping demonstrates, he was rather unsuccessful.
- The costume designer must surely be aware of this trope. Why else would she have dressed him in actual leather pants?
- The character of Detective Ronnie Gardocki, on The Shield, developed a major cult following amongst fans of the show in spite of not receiving much screen time or character development during the first couple of seasons of the show outside the occasional nerd moment and Butt Monkey-style physical abuse moment. As such, many fans of the character began promoting the notion/belief that Ronnie was a nerdy and all all-around good guy who simply fell in with the wrong crowd at work and not an rotten to the core corrupt cop who's soul was as black as the rest of the team. Needless to say, even when Ronnie is hauled off kicking and screaming for his crimes committed as part of with the Strike Team (which has to be spelled out to him by Dutch, when he reacts in a confused fashion when he's arrested) at the end of the series, fans of the character argue that Ronnie was the victim, having been screwed over by Vic Mackey, who ratted out Ronnie for immunity for all of his crimes (including murdering a fellow cop) and a cushy new job with the Feds.
- Gabriel Gray (a.k.a. Sylar) from Heroes is a ruthless serial killer who murders many people (including fan-favorite Ted) so as to take their powers... by taking their brains. He feels no remorse for his actions and has a soul that is truly blacker than a moonless night... but look at that wet, delicious shirtless chest! And look how much fun he has with his powers - if all the characters whose powers don't require bloody murder had as much fun with their powers as Sylar does with his, this series would be much more fun. Cake?
- Cole Turner/Belthazar in Charmed. Let's see. He's a demon, but "Cole" is his human half so, hey, he's not all that bad, right? He repeatedly plots against, deceives, considers killing, and attempts to kill the Charmed Ones, but he's really just misunderstood, see. Even when he becomes The Source, essentially Charmed's version of Satan, he's still just a big ol' softy to some viewers (and Phoebe, whose intelligence could be questioned). Part of the dangers of casting Julian McMahon for your villain, I suppose.
- The new show Lie To Me actually lampshades this with an episode where a serial killer, locked up in jail - that too, an unrepentant asshole - has a bunch of fanboys who attend his trials and act like they're witnessing the second coming of Jesus.
- Scorpius from Far Scape, despite his numerous Kick The Dog moments. It doesn't help that wears a bloody full body leather suit and is the embodiment of Affably Evil (until you really annoy him). In fact, he became so popular, that by the end of the third season he'd gotten his own sympathetic background and eventually joined the main cast as a pseudo-protagonist.
Professional Wrestling
- Professional Wrestling fans often latch onto a Heel and start cheering for him; oftentimes this can reach levels where the booker/writer has no choice but to perform a Heel Face Turn on the character. Examples of this include the nWo, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, The Rock, Eddie Guerrero, and Batista. In other words, the polar opposite of X Pac Heat.
- This isn't Dracoing. When wrestling fans start cheering a heel, it's usually because they like his character and/or schtick and find him entertaining. Dracoing would only take place if they ignored his actual character and ran with their own interpretation of it.
- In wrestling Fan Fic, John Cena and Randy Orton get hit with this one a lot, but not as much as the Little Black Dress of wrestling fandom, Shawn Michaels. You can pretty much count on his various addictions and personality quirks to be RetConned. Then add in the fact that he wears leather pants as part of his character...
- Wrestling fanfiction?? Dear God...
- The internet fanbase generally orients themselves towards wrestlers who are good workers. Sometimes, though, a wrestler who's just plain bad in the ring starts getting over. Maybe he got some good writing behind him, maybe it's just the weird X Factor that causes things in pro wrestling to catch on when they shouldn't or not catch on when they should. Cue internet fans doing somersaults trying to figure out ways to explain why, say, Big Daddy V is a superior worker.
Close Professional Wrestling
Theatre
- Possibly the phenomenon started earlier than Andrew Lloyd Webber's musical version of Phantom Of The Opera, but Gaston Leroux would not recognize the Erik currently celebrated by the "Phandom" as the title character of his novel Le Fantome de l'Opera. The original story is an early 20th-century potboiler about a deformed psychopath who is tragic because of his pathetic nature. He has a monstrous appearance and an utter lack of conscience (until the very last moment), but he shore do write some purty music. It's a "beauty killed the beast" story like King Kong, and thus already had the potential for this...
- Particularly after the release of the 2004 film version of the 1986 musical adaptation, the story has developed this strange following of people who honestly do believe that the heroine of the story should have chosen to live in the basements below the opera house with the unstable, homicidal madman who stalked and kidnapped her instead of marrying her aristocratic fiance because... um... Well, mostly because Andrew Lloyd Webber is a sly fox who gave these people who tend to be in a place in life where they feel isolated and misunderstood a hero who is a brilliant, misunderstood, romantic outcast just like them. (And it would be okay to live in the dark with him forever because "face like a skull, missing a nose and everything" has been demoted to "Two-Face's long-lost ancestor" at worst and, in the film, "hot guy with an inconstant and easily covered patch of radiation burn", so it isn't like he's ugly or anything, which, of course, begs the question of why he lives in the basement at all). This troper used to be in Phandom, and the amount of venom other fans vented toward the Viscomte simply for existing is amazing in its volume and nastiness. If they acknowledged at all that Erik (the Phantom) killed people and was generally not a nice man, then they had multiple explanations for why it wasn't really his fault. That the relationship between Erik and his protege was really, really not romantic, nor even a healthy relationship, tended to be entirely ignored because Erik is a giant Woobie with a good voice and a secret heart of gold, and that's that.
- Strangely, most of the people this troper knows personally find Erik much less sympathetic in the 2004 film because he was just too attractive for the amount of angsting he does. They still feel for the stage version and many of the other adaptations, but, for the most part, they've got no love for Gerry!Phantom.
- A Streetcar Named Desire. Stanley Kowalski. People tend to blame Blanche for being a passive-agressive weirdo and kind of leading him on, but that doesn't change the fact that Stan is an evil bully and a rapist. Within the story, Stella shelves the rape incident under her own Dis Continuity.
- And, of course, this is the role that made Marlon Brando a star on both Broadway and Hollywood and an international heartthrob. So Yeah.
- Deliberately invoked in many productions of The Doll House, where the actor playing Torvald Helmer has to be ridiculously attractive for Nora's actions to make sense. Unfortunately, it's easy to miss that he's also an ungrateful sexist bastard.
- Assassins is this, to a certain degree.
Video Games
Webcomics
- In Dominic Deegan: Oracle For Hire, minor character Lord Siegfried, a.k.a. "Siggy", is noted for his uncontrollable temper, his willingness to substitute convenient scapegoats for his wrath, and his extreme racism against orcs. Despite this, he is very dedicated to his duty as a knight, and as long as he can keep calm, he's polite, well-spoken, and sensible. He is also, conspicuously, one of the most "manly" characters in the series. Probably for those reasons, Siggy's fangirls are easily as devout as those of more traditional Bad Ass types such as Celesto and Jacob, even going so far as to set up websites devoted to Siggy fandom, and posting lengthy defenses of his quality of character against those who malign him for the traits the author clearly uses him (and less frequently his father, Lord Damaske) to represent.
- Belkar from Order Of The Stick is a Villain Protagonist who has slaughtered innocents, harvested kidneys from innocents, turned a fistfight between friends at a bar into a bloodbath with 15 people dead, voted to sell a captured female enemy into slavery, attempted to kill allies for experience points, professed a desire to return home to kill his family and childhood friends in their sleep for mocking him, left taunting messages written on the walls of prisons he's escaped in the local guard's blood, and has two shoulder demons because he gave his shoulder angel a nervous breakdown. But because he's a member of the good guy group and is funny, there are fans who argue that he's not evil - despite Word Of God, his being unaffected by a spell that only damages Good and Neutral characters
, an angel in the comic itself measuring his evil in kilonazis and Belkar himself saying "I'm Chaotic Evil!" . It's possible that he might shake this (as the author delights in making him do even more pointlessly evil things), but then again, maybe not.
- Don't forget that he once removed the top of a Kobold's head to make a hat. Killing the Kobold wasn't so bad, but removing his head for a hat he would lose not long after?
- Also, Redcloak from the same comic, as seen in some recent forum posts, some of which went as far as to say that he is Lawful Good. His plan may indeed be noble, but come on, it involves endangering or destroying the world. That's scarcely good. Besides, he gets magic from the appropriately aligned Dark One.
- Red String has Kazuo's father Kenta, the emotionally abusive patriarch who rules his home with an iron fist and constantly belittles his son and controls his life. Some of the fans tried downplaying this into him simply being a good father setting a strong example for his son, up to and including the numerous times he described his son as "worthless" and even his manipulative and dismissive attitude toward his own wife. One can only wonder how they reacted when Kenta actually blacked his son's eye in a recent page when Kazuo refused to break up with someone so his father could arrange him another marriage.
- Black Mage of 8-Bit Theater. This is someone who makes casual referrences to brutally murdering his family and considers stabbing people in the head to be the answer to all problems, yet there are those who give an inordinate amount of focus to a literal handful of scenes where he shows actual human empathy and attempt to portray him as simply a Woobie lashing out at a cruel universe that has designated him to be its Butt Monkey. Do note however that the majority of his fans like him precisely because he bases his existence around killing everything For The Evulz and reject any other view.
- Luke from Freakangels is a hobo that has trouble locating a pair of pants and mostly uses his psychic powers to manipulate women into sleeping with him, but has gained a little fan following because he's handsome, intelligent and constantly putting himself as the poor innocent victim of his mean, mean friends.
Western Animation
Tabletop Games
- This editor attempted to intentionally do this in a D&D campaign, where one recurring villain was a misunderstood cute tiefling rogue. The players didn't care. Oddly, a later Corrupt Hick lizardfolk rage mage was hugely adored by a few of the players, despite her rampant racism and desire to slice up anyone who got in her way.
Real Life
- There are several examples of women swooning over (and even marrying) convicted murderers because of their notoriety, good looks, or badass reputations. The most egregious example was probably Ted Bundy, an unrepentant serial killer who not only raped and murdered over 30 girls, but who also had sex with some of their corpses. And yet he had no shortage of fangirls, because he was charismatic and handsome.
- Spoofed in Dilbert, where the title character goes to jail for murder and is inundated with marriage proposals. He comes to quite like it in jail.
- Considering how utterly horrific Josef Fritzl
is, and how old he is, AND how hideous he is, AND the victim was his own family, serial killer fanism may actually come about BECAUSE of the killing and the raping. Fritzl may not be a serial rapist but in a way he's worse as he tormented a single victim for decades and separated her from the children they had.
- Ernesto "Che" Guevara. Whether he should be considered as one of history's biggest heroes or worst villains is still a hotly debated topic, but the more-or-less recent appearance of his visage on T-shirts of angsty teens and twenty-somethings in America, most of whom have little idea of what he actually stood for or what he's done, but just like him because he was a revolutionary and therefore cool, definitely puts him in this category.
- The book Is It Just Me Or Is Everything Shit? calls Che "everyone's favourite facial-hair-motorbike-stood-for-some-stuff-but-I-don't-know-what-it-was-and-don't-really-give-one-check-out-the-beard-man revolutionary".
- Parodied in an episode of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei where Chiri Kitsu goes around making sure people know everything about the stuff they wear, own, or talk about. She meets someone unfortunate enough to be wearing a Che Guevara shirt, who promptly receives a lecture and slide show of Guevara's life and exploits in grueling detail.
- Likewise any dictator who looks good in a suit, especially among women in his native country, or an uneducated dip from the Americas.
- Of course at least most latinos do know his story and some do think of him as a hero.
- There's also Filiberto Ojeda Ríos. Everyone in Puerto Rico views him as a hero and patriot.
- There's Mary Sue fanfic for That Wacky Nazi Josef Mengele.
- Though standard nazis fall under Evil Is Sexy, this troper will bank on it being a DILP metrosexual mad scientist thing instead.
- After the fall of Nazi Germany, many letters were found - written by German women who adored their Fuhrer and wanted to carry his child. Now that is a kink that definitely doesn't need supporters.
- It might seem a bit tasteless, but the career trajectory of the Holocaust-denier David Irving is similar to that of a stereotypical fan who does this. He started off as a fairly respected military historian who specialised in Nazi Germany (sane "just because I like watching this character doesn't mean I don't know he's an evil bastard"), then began arguing that Hitler didn't know about the Holocaust and the other Nazis did it because they thought he'd approve (an Alternate Character Interpretation that makes people look at you funny but is still slightly defensible), and then finally crossed the line into full-on denial (all out deranged villain-woobifying).
- This troper new a girl back in high school who had a thing for Hitler. She had a notebook full of drawings of Chibi-Hitler, and expressed disdain for Eva Braun, the "nude-sunbathing whore." Oftentimes, this polite to a fault troper would often be roped into awkward conversations about how Hitler actually did this or that which improved Germany or the world or whatever.
- Vlad Tepes for the girls and Elizabeth Bathory for the guys. Two of history's worst serial killers (by some accounts), but since they received a Historical Vampire Upgrade, everyone still thinks they're hawt.
- Vlad Tepes is also a folk hero in Wallachia bacause he fought off the Turks... using his own people as horrific public sacrifices, HOT!
- He learned the old 'people on sticks' routine FROM the Turks.
- In sliiiiight defense of the guy (whom this troper still thinks was rather BATSHIT *rimshot*), many of the stories about him apocryphal German 'tabloid pamphlet' rumour-mill gleanings (the medieval equivalent of "OMG I know this guy who knows a guy who has a cousin in Wallachia, and THEY said..." etc.), a vast majority of his victims were Ottoman Turks (see: The Night Attack, and no, that doesn't make him less creepy, but he wasn't quite an indiscriminate killer), and he was arguably not as big a dick as the Ottoman princes tended to be. The latter may well be a case of The Devil You Know (again, *rimshot*).
- Hey, queer DILP fans exist too - though more guys seem to want to BE (the DILP version of) Tepes than woobify him. it does happen, though!
- A lot of Russians still think that Stalin was hot stuff - many Soviets did while suffering in his work camps in Siberia, under mistaken notion that he would save them if he only knew. Likewise, you still find a plenty of admirers of Mao from China, Cultural Revolution be damned.
- When Stalin was in power, he had hordes of fangirls who wrote him love-letters.
- There are people who feel that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were heroes and martyrs. Yet they murdered a dozen of their fellow high school students.
- This is almost certainly due to the huge swath of self-righteous Moral Guardians that sprung up afterwards, and a misplaced use of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."
- At least a handful of these people have gone on to murder as well. Hell, there are Leopold and Loeb fangirls, though admittedly it's mostly because Leopold and Loeb come across as pitifully fucked-up and mutually devoted rather than rage-inducedly homicidal.
- Self-proclaimed "controversial" cartoonist Carlos Latuff appears to admire Seng-Hui Cho, the Viginia Tech killer.
- Pick any well-known celebrity who's known to be a spousal abuser. The recent example; and the one that baffles this male troper is R&B singer Chris Brown. After beating his (ex)-girlfriend Rihanna to a bloody pulp and leaving her with scars, there were no shortage of women claiming either 'it was stress, 'it was a misunderstanding', or my personal favorite, '"She" must have done something to provoke him'. A-maz-ing.
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