YMMV / Revenge of the Sith


  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Several have interpreted Padmé's cause of death not simply as her losing the will to live, but as the result of internal injuries from her being Force Choked. Someone even took it further and suggested that Palpatine was directly responsible for her death in order to ensure Darth Vader's obedience.
    • There's an ongoing debate among fans about how justified the Jedi actually were in attempting a coup, simply because one Jedi said the Chancellor was a Sith. It usually comes down not to what Palpatine did, but what they had evidence of that he did (which was nothing, except being a Sith). A fairly large number of people interpret his arrest as "you're a different religion than us! You're under arrest!"… though, this debate does overlook the fact that they were considering arresting him before they found out he was Sith, since he was consolidating too much power with very questionable legality even though the war (which he was using as an excuse for this) was clearly ending, not to mention they knew for years that the Sith were responsible for the blockade of Naboo, the death of Qui-Gon Jinn and plunging the galaxy into war in the first place, plus the Sith were historically responsible for millennia of atrocities, conflict, slavery and death, so it's not quite as simply as "you are a different religion than us!"
  • Badass Decay: Many see Padmé's role in this film as a severe let-down after the previous two films, considering she spends most of the time moping about in her residence, denying Anakin's crimes and the infamous "dying of a broken heart". To be fair to Lucas, though, a) it would have been pretty hard for her to play a very action-oriented role as she did before, considering she's heavily pregnant throughout the story, and b) scenes which had to be left on the cutting room floor showed that she tries to curtail Palpatine's power, and has a hand in the beginning of what will eventually become the Rebellion.
  • Base Breaker: Grievous is either a Badass four-lightsaber-wielding cyborg or an ineffectual wuss of a villain, with many of his detractors likening him to the Dastardly Whiplash archetype.
  • Broken Base: The worst out of all of them, since the movie has a closer to equal share of defenders and detractors compared to the other two prequels. The main issue being Anakin is either an effective Tragic Hero whose fall to darkness is simultaneously tragic, terrifying and Badass, or the same old poorly-acted Wangsty romantic he was in the last movie.
  • Captain Obvious Reveal: Technically, Palpatine was only revealed to be Darth Sidious in this film. Most film-goers didn't even realize this was supposed to be hidden in any way.
  • Complete Monster: Palpatine. Add-on materials, including the novelization, reveal he was angry at Anakin for losing to Obi-Wan and considered leaving him for dead, since he was crippled both physically and in his strength with the Force. The only thing that convinced him otherwise was that Anakin would still be powerful even in this state. On the other hand, in the movie, he seems only to be impressed that he was alive, and isn't angry at all. He also did much the same thing with General Grievous – manipulating him into being horrifically crippled so that he could be rebuilt into a super-cyborg monster.
  • Contested Sequel: Like the other two prequels, though leaning more towards the positive end of the spectrum.
  • Crazy Awesome: A strong case can be made for General Grievous, who makes a habit of pulling escapes in the most creatively insane ways imaginable. Cornered on the bridge of his flagship? Shatter the nearest viewport and climb back in up the side of the hull. Pau city suddenly unhealthy? Pilot a bizarre legged unicycle away, fighting a Jedi on varactylback all the way.
  • Critical Dissonance: Gets enough flak from fans that its Rotten Tomatoes rating of 80% might surprise some people, especially considering this is just barely higher than Return of the Jedi's 79%. The scores of the two films have since been reversed, but it doesn't make much of a difference. Though for what its worth, even the film's haters usually concede that it isn't as bad as the other two prequels.
  • Counterpart Comparison: A man seeking power after the death of his mother, but ultimately falls into darkness, and stuffed into a suit of armor. The only real difference between Vergil and Anakin is that the former (possibly) doesn't have a wife who dies of heartbreak.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Darth Plagueis proved to be a tremendously popular character without even appearing in the movie, based solely on the story Palpatine tells to Anakin (which is often regarded as one of the best scenes in the entire Prequel Trilogy). His presence in both the Legends continuity and the canonical one is extremely limited, but there has been no short order of fascination with the character. It probably helps that there are now quite a lot of people convinced that he is actually Supreme Leader Snoke.
  • Fanon: Many fans like to believe that Darth Plagueis' life-creating experiments caused Shmi Skywalker's unexplained Mystical Pregnancy, and that Anakin has abnormally powerful Force abilities because he's essentially a Human Weapon created by a Sith Lord. The Legends novel about the character suggests that this is the case, although the Force itself created Anakin in response to what Darth Plagueis was doing.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • The already-horrific multiple-murders of Order 66. If you've watched Star Wars: The Clone Wars or read any of the EU material, every Jedi they show getting murdered has gotten screentime and lines, which is more than you can say for the movies. They're that much more alive, and their deaths are that much worse. At least some of them survived in Star Wars Rebels.
    • Dave Filoni (The supervising director of The Clone Wars) admitted to being under this effect in regards to minor character Plo Koon due to being his favorite minor Jedi in the EU and even going to the movie dressed up as him. Talk about a Tearjerker…
    • For another The Clone Wars-related example, Season 6 reveals how Order 66 works, and all from a clone's perspective. After watching that story arc, the Jedi who were killed aren't the only ones you'll grieve for. Even harsher, an interview about Rebels revealed that some of the clones who survived the Clone War (particularly the ones that served closely with their Jedi generals) are now suffering PTSD over it.
    • Not that it was pleasant beforehand, but the prospect of Anakin massacring young kids became way more uncomfortable after the Sandy Hook massacre.
    • Luke being dropped off to Owen and Beru, of course.
    • Despite Obi-Wan and Yoda's best efforts to restart the Jedi Order by way of Luke, the Jedi fall victim to another purge by the time of The Force Awakens, led by Anakin's grandson, no less.
  • He Really Can Act: Hayden Christensen is genuinely scary when acting as Darth Vader… at least when he isn't talking. While this is also a polarizing performance, many fans who don't hate the film point out how the way Hayden Christensen acts is a lot more appropriate than in the previous film, where it was more narmy. It should also be noted that he's done films outside the series where he has garnered critical praise.
  • He's Just Hiding:
    • Was claimed about Mace Windu and Aayla Secura, even though they're both killed onscreen. Mace's survival is at least somewhat plausible. He loses his hand, gets zapped by lightning, and tossed from a significant height, all of which Jedi are shown to be able to survive throughout the saga (although never all at once). Secura, however, gets shot in the back by at least a dozen troops at near point-blank range, and her body continues to be shot as the camera pans out.
    • After the announcement of The Force Awakens, a lot of people began to apply this train of thought to Darth Plagueis, based on Palpatine's comments that his old master was able to conquer death. The Tarkin book dropping a couple of details about the enigmatic figure into the canon also helped the theory gain some support. A number of people are convinced that he was somehow Faking the Dead and could be the Big Bad of the Sequel Trilogy as a way of raising the stakes from his apprentice.
      • This theory gained greater credibility when fans found that "Snoke's Theme" from TFA's soundtrack sounded very similar to "Palpatine's Teachings" from this film's soundtrack.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • C-3PO remarks as he pilots Padmé's ship "that [he] may be getting the hang of this flying." Then Disney's Star Tours ride was revamped, and he now pilots the Starspeeder 1000.
    • Also, Yoda's statement when fighting against Palpatine, "At an end, your rule is. And not short enough, it was," gets hysterical when a few months after the formation of the Empire, his rule (almost) did become extremely short by a few months. Normally, this would fall under Harsher in Hindsight, but hey, it's Palpatine.
    • Padmé and Anakin's illicit romance and pregnancy after Natalie Portman got pregnant out of wedlock while making Black Swan.
    • Darth Sidious, yelling " POOOOOWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! UUNNNLIMITEDDDD POOOOOOOOWWWWWWWAAAHHH!" while zapping Mace Windu (played Samuel L. Jackson), and then few years later, Loki taunts Nick Fury (also played by Samuel L. Jackson) for his search of the Tesseract, an object of "unlimited power".
    • Hayden Christensen's last major TV role before Star Wars was as the lead of a single-season show called Higher Ground.
    • When Obi-Wan briefly loses his lightsaber during the fight with Grievous, he opts to fight with an Electric Staff. Now he's being pegged as the forefather of staff-wielding heroine Rey.
    • Let's just say this movie predates The Force Awakens in terms of "sick spins".
  • Holy Shit Quotient: The opening battle and final duel.
  • Idiot Plot:
    • Much of the reason Anakin loses trust in the Jedi and eventually betrays them is due to them not trusting him, thus giving him good reason to do the same. In the end, Anakin's betrayal of the Jedi was as much them pushing him away as him turning his back on them. In fairness, Sidious has been deliberately driving a wedge between them by interfering in Jedi affairs in his favour, as well as feeding Anakin's ego and paranoia and making him think the Jedi were against him before they actually were.
      • What probably cinches it is Windu's comments to Anakin once Anakin tells him that Palpatine is the Sith Lord; "You've gained my trust." He's flat-out telling him that apparently for thirteen years he didn't trust Anakin. That's enough to upset anyone, especially when that someone has been arguing that the Council doesn't trust him, and Windu just vindicated his feelings. Seeing Windu flaunt the process of authority and attempting to murder the one man—Sith Lord or not—that Anakin felt wholly and openly trusted him was the last straw.
    • Also, Anakin's (and the rest of the Jedi's) failure to spot the obvious – that Palpatine was the Sith Lord. He was almost amazingly athletic during the escape from the Invisible Hand, especially for an aging politician. Then there was his creepy storytelling at the opera house. (So… it never occurs to Anakin to wonder exactly how Palpatine knows about that "old Sith legend"?) Finally, you have the simple and obvious fact that he was increasingly dictatorial. It was really kind of glaring.
      • The novelization attempts a partial justification. The Council knows the Sith Lord is somewhere around the Chancellor (same as in the movie, "the Dark Side surrounds the Chancellor") but discount Palpatine because he's already the most powerful person in the universe. It arguably works better as it makes the Jedi more arrogant than stupid, as they failed to account that the Sith don't just want power, but also to avenge themselves upon the Jedi.
  • Internet Backdraft: Merely asking the question "Did Windu beat Palpatine or did Palpatine take a dive?" is an excellent way to start a fight.
  • Magnificent Bastard: Palpatine. He plays every single character in the movie like a fiddle and becomes dictator of the galaxy by the end of the second act, and by the end of the movie all of his potential enemies are either dead, on the run or on his side. Granted, at least part of this is because some of those enemies are not always the brightest folk, but they suspected that something was wrong with him being in power so long and thought at the very least that the Sith might be controlling him, and he still covers his tracks until it's too late for them.
  • Memetic Loser: General Grievous, especially when contrasted with his portrayal in Star Wars: Clone Wars.
  • Memetic Mutation: Vader's "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" has since been used as a way (mostly in jest) to show great disapproval over things on forums and message boards.
    • The NO part also spawned a different famous meme thanks to a cheap Chinese bootleg of the movie having horribly translated subtitles in English. During the scene the "no" was translated as "Do not want!" which quickly became a reaction comment towards unwanted things or gross images.
    • "You underestimate my power!!!"
    • "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
    • "You were the chosen one!", usually in rage comics to show betrayal but full variations of the quotation have been made.
    • "It's over, Anakin. I have the high ground." It Makes Sense in Context, but it sounds silly anyway.
      • Also because some like to note that it's odd for Obi-Wan of all people to say this, since he himself overcame this disadvantage against Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace. Though, to be fair, Obi-Wan was smart enough to exploit his advantage, whereas Maul wasn't.
    • Palpatine's New Era Speech establishing The Empire, of a sort. Go on any YouTube video of it. Take a shot for every comment comparing some politician/speech to Palpatine/the speech. You'll develop alcohol poisoning before the night's out.
    • Palpatine: POOOOOWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! UUNNNLIMITEDDDD POOOOOOOOWWWWWWWAAAHHH!
    • When Anakin has Count Dooku at his mercy, Palpatine implores Anakin to kill him in a very forceful way, specifically using the phrase "DO IT!" fiercely. After Game Grumps made fun of the scene (showcased through these videos), it's hard for one to take it seriously.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Palpatine crosses it when his begins the Jedi Purge.
  • Narm:
    • "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!" When your Dark Lord of the Sith sounds like the slow member of the debate team, you've got problems.
    • Say it with us now: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
    • "Kill him! Kill him now… deweet."
      Rifftrax: Uh, we could "keel" him, sir.
    • In the Mace/Palpatine fight, immediately after Mace kicks Palpatine's lightsaber away, there's a hilariously dull shot of Anakin running at a rather casual pace, made even worse by that it doesn't at all match the tense music that's playing.
    • "Anakin… has killed… younglings." Child murder is horrific in and of itself, but the word "younglings" either spoils the mood or makes it feel less like the real world and more like Star Wars.
    • Also when Anakin confronts the children, the one who speaks to him has a London accent which makes the scene unintentionally funny, at least for Brits.
    • Natalie Portman is a good actor, but even she can't make a clumsy line for her character's anguish, "Anakin, you're breaking my heart." sound anything but stupid.
    • The whole "You're so beautiful." banter between Anakin and Padmé. It was so terribly written that both Christensen and Portman seem to be uncomfortable reading those lines.
    • Aayla Secura's death during the Jedi Purge is almost comical when you realize that the actress puts no effort into making her drop to the ground look convincing; you could almost swear she was trying to feign death.note 
    • "It's over, Anakin! I have the high ground!" Sounded so silly that there's a recurring joke on /tv/ about it being some kind of weird metaphor.
  • Narm Charm:
    • "I HATE YOU!!!" Sure, it's something a bratty kid (like Anakin) would say, but it's still gutwrenching to see him on the ground with his legs cut off, writhing in pain, unable to do anything to his former mentor and best friend other than scream at him in impotent rage.
    • On that note, "You were my brother Anakin, I loved you!" shows how heartbroken Obi-Wan is from everything and makes it all the more tragic for him.
    • Even if you found Yoda's famous "backwards talking" a bit cheesy and annoying note , it doesn't make his final, defiant "Fuck you!" to Darth Sidious any less awesome. All together now...
    Yoda: Not… if anything to say about it… I HAVE!
    • Pretty much every scene with Palpatine. Ian McDarmind is devouring scenery left and right in his performance and the delivery of some lines (such as the infamous "Do it" and "POWAH") is a little weird. But Palpatine is such a deliciously evil villain and McDarmind is so obviously enjoying himself in the role that they end up as some of the most awesome and likable scenes in the whole prequel trilogy.
  • Nightmare Fuel: Has its own page.
  • Older Than They Think: Anakin/Vader going on a starfighter mission to save an abducted Palpatine? That sounds familiar… Also makes it Hilarious in Hindsight.
  • One-Scene Wonder:
    • Christopher Lee's cameo as Count Dooku perfectly sets up Anakin's Start of Darkness. It also serves as retribution for all of Dooku's schemes in "Clone Wars."
    • Despite the cheesy Big "NO!", having James Earl Jones reprise the voice of Darth Vader was exciting for fans.
    • Plus Chewbacca, who's also played by Peter Mayhew.
  • Padding:
    • Many have argued that this movie suffers from a plethora of Filler scenes that could have been left out of the movie without messing with the overall narrative. The Battle of Kashyyyk and the Battle of Utapau, in particular, could have been left out entirely as the only reason for their existence was to get Yoda and Obi Wan away from Coruscant so that Palpatine could be left alone with Anakin.
    • The final Obi Wan vs. Anakin duel goes on for almost ten minutes. There's no denying that the movie tries to make it interesting throughout the fight by constantly moving around the Mustafar mining facility, but the continued use of lightsabers clashing throughout became tiresome about half way through the fight. And that doesn't even include the fact that the duel was constantly interrupted by the Yoda vs. Palpatine fight that was going on at the same time, which adds around another five minutes of waiting for the former duel to reach its conclusion.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: While Hayden Christensen's performance, though notably improved, remains divisive, many fans note that Anakin himself is more bearable and even sympathetic in this movie compared to how he was in Attack of the Clones.
  • Special Effect Failure:
    • At the beginning of the fight between Dooku, Obi Wan, and Anakin, Dooku's jump, backflip and landing was unconvincing. Later into the fight when Count Dooku drops part of the walkway on top of Obi Wan, it looks really fake. Obi Wan was just moved down on the screen when it fell on him without any of his limbs reacting to the impact.
    • Palpatine's backflip during his fight with Mace is also rather unconvincing.
    • When Grievous is getting his lightsabers out in front of Obi-Wan, it's pretty easy to tell that Ewan McGregor is looking at a green screen the whole time, as he shows little reaction to this and keeps his guard down the whole time, just awkwardly standing there. He doesn't even flinch when Grievous waves the lightsabers dangerously close to his face. This could be Justified as Kenobi's expression indicates this was not the first or second time Obi-Wan had faced Grievous in combat.
  • Strawman Has a Point: Anakin is correct in that the Jedi are acting a bit beyond their usual mandate. On the other hand, he ignores or refuses to accept that Palpatine is severely overpowered and likely corrupt – and that’s before it's revealed he's a Sith Lord.
  • Surprisingly Improved Sequel: Most fans agree that Revenge of the Sith is the best of the prequel trilogy. Some fans even consider it to be on the same level as Return of the Jedi, or even The Empire Strikes Back, in terms of quality.
  • Take That, Scrappy!: There is a huge Catharsis Factor to seeing Nute Gunray finally get taken out. In fact, there were only two scenes featuring Jar Jar.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Even if Padmé had to die, could she not have been given a cooler death? She was a ruler, a senator and a fighter, but she spends most of the film sitting in the background and dies because she "loses the will to live". Even if they wanted to play up the maternal angle, she could have confronted Anakin at the Jedi Temple, and died fighting him in defense of the Jedi younglings.
  • Uncanny Valley: During the Mace/Palpatine fight, there's a couple of shots where Palpatine is completely rendered in CGI, and it's quite noticeable.
  • What an Idiot:
    • Dooku keeps quiet when his master sells him out and urges Anakin to kill him. Betraying Palpatine by outing him as a Sith Lord probably wouldn't have saved Dooku's life, but it would have cast suspicion on Palpatine much sooner and certainly still been in-character for a fellow Sith.
    • Mace Windu making a dangerous arrest without any "Plan B" whatsoever. No perimeter, no one watching the exits, nothing. On its own, this is already dumb, and formerly canon Legends material makes it even worse. At least one novel showed the Clone Troopers had a counterpart to Order 66, the creatively named Order 65. In a nutshell, Order 65 reads "arrest the Chancellor". Naturally, when Windu forgets to set this off, it leaves the Clone Army's ultimate loyalty up in the air for Palpatine to grab without any opposition.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not Political?:
    • Some people felt that Padmé's "So this is how liberty dies… with thunderous applause" line was a blatant jab at things like the Patriot Act and the overall culture of post-9/11 America. For what it's worth, George Lucas has implied that it was actually supposed to be referencing Nazi Germany.
    • However, Anakin's phrase "If you're not with me… then you're my enemy." does seem to be a reference to (one formulation of) the Bush Doctrine that countries that support terrorist groups are treated as if the terrorists are acting on their behalf. (It's also a re-phrasing of the classic liberal political saying, "You're either part of the solution, or you're part of the problem.")
    • It's also been noted that Palpatine's rise to power has more in common with that of Caesar Augustus, or Adolf Hitler. And George Lucas has admitted an American president is also one of Palpatine's influences… but it's Richard Nixon, not Bush.
  • Win Back the Crowd: Many people who felt underwhelmed by the other two Prequels feel that this movie justifies the entire Trilogy. This sentiment is anything but universal, however, as per norm for Star Wars.

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