"You think you could ever replace Nunnally in my heart?! You're an imposter!"
A popular character is killed off
or otherwise written out and replaced with a new character who fills their previous role
. Regardless of what this new character is like, they're likely to end up with a Hatedom directed at them
, just because they're not the old favourite. If he'd been there from the start, maybe the fans could have loved this new character, or at least respected him. But no—he's a replacement. He's not even a Suspiciously Similar Substitute
who at least shared some character traits with the other guy, he's a totally different guy, and so every flaw—every trait that makes him not
like the character the fans want him to be—drives them crazy with longing and disgust, and all they can do is get angrier and angrier.note
Sometimes this is understandable: the fans mourn the loss of the old character, whom they have come to know and love, and suddenly they are forced to get to know a new character all over again, and inevitable comparisons will ensue. However, if the new character is poorly written, becomes a Spotlight-Stealing Squad
, interacts awkwardly with the old characters, derails the show, or - worst of all - becomes a Mary Sue
or Creator's Pet
, fans will often go to war over their outrage. Expect the use of flamethrowers where these characters are discussed
, especially if the new character gains a dissenting fandom - Broken Bases
because of these characters are not unknown phenomena. Investing in fire-proof armor or a bunker deep underground may help if all-encompassing forum warfare breaks out
In short, They Changed It, Now It Sucks
, but with a main character. If lucky, he may be Rescued from the Scrappy Heap
. May happen to Anti Hero Substitutes
that aren't portrayed as a regular villain in hero's costume.
Compare with Counterpart Comparison
(Of course, being a Replacement Scrappy does not preclude also being a regular Scrappy
. It is entirely possible that the audience would have hated the character anyway.)
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- No one was happy when Free Credit Score hired a new band to replace the old one. NO ONE. Thankfully, the company realized this, and judging by this commercial, it looks like the old band is coming back.
- Wendy, for whom the Wendy's fast food chain is named, is not nearly the advertiser her father (and the chain's founder) Dave Thomas was. The nameless redhead (who looks like the logo on the sign), who the company brought in to replace Wendy Thomas, isn't much better.
- The makers of the German chocolate bar ''Kinder Schokolade'' certainly didn't expect that kind of backlash when in 2005, after decades, they replaced the boy on the packaging.
- Thoroughly discussed in the Criminal Minds fanfiction Voices of the Forgotten, which, as the title suggests, about all the characters who've some or go unceremoniously over the years.
Elle: She at least thought that they would not like her replacement more than her because nobody every likes the replacement...
Jordan: Even if they're temporary..
Ashley: Or not technically a replacement at all.
- Star Wars: Attack of the Clones: Count Dooku is a very cool character in his own right, but at the time many fans dismissed him for not being Darth Maul. Who was himself no Darth Vader.
- Indiana Jones: Several fans of the series have complained about the love interests in Temple of Doom and The Last Crusade in comparison to Marion in Raiders of the Lost Ark. In Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, this is given a Lampshade Hanging that produces a Crowning Moment Of Heartwarming.
- Detective Clifton Sleigh (Ted Wass) in Curse of The Pink Panther. The plot sets him up as investigating Inspector Clouseau's disappearance, as established in the previous film, Trail of.... Sleigh is an New York City detective who is similarly incompetent, but eager-to-please rather than arrogant, and more aware of/confused by the chaos he's involved in than Clouseau ever was. Beyond having a different and ultimately blander character as the focus, the film itself comes off as lazy and cheap compared to its predecessors. Worse, not only was Peter Sellers' Clouseau beloved, but Trail of... used outtakes of Sellers — who had died two years prior — to create a Fake Shemp; essentially, writer-director-producer Blake Edwards was accused of grave robbing just to set up a Replacement Scrappy! Edwards tried again at this 10 years later with Son of the Pink Panther, via a Re Vision of the events of A Shot In the Dark to bring us Clouseau's illegitimate Italian son (Roberto Benigni), but it also bombed.
- In Star Trek III: The Search for Spock the shiny new starship Excelsior threatens to be the Replacement Scrappy for the Enterprise. This was actually going to happen for real in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, but a backlash from fans caused the powers that be to rethink that plan.
- Apparently the backlash was so much that it was actually lampshaded in the fourth movie, specifically during shuttle ride through Spacedock, where Sulu claims that he's hoping the former Enterprise crew would received the Excelsior, to which Scotty scoffs at the idea and calls the ship a "bucket of bolts". Then the shuttle turns toward the Excelsior's direction (with the camera following throughout), making it seem like Sulu's wish was going to come true...only for the Enterprise-A to appear behind the Excelsior. You could almost hear the original theater audience's cheers at that point.
- Between the third and fourth movies, the DC Star Trek comics did in fact have Kirk and Co. on the Excelsior... except for Spock, who was given command of the science vessel Surak. By the time the fourth movie came out, the comics writers had put everything back in place... but this was one reason many fans thought the crew would wind up on Excelsior. Nice fake-out be the moviemakers to make us think (for all of 0.43 seconds) that this was happening.
- Ironically enough, the Excelsior would become one of the most popular starships in the ST fandom, both due to its unique design (at the time) and for being captained by Sulu (replacing the original captain Styles) in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. One supposes this was partly due to not becoming the Replacement Scrappy as everyone feared, instead establishing itself as its own "character" from the Enterprise. Almost burning out her engines to get to Enterprise in time to have her back, in the latter's final mission, against a cutting-edge prototype stealth warship probably didn't hurt either.
- Shemp replacing Curly after Curly suffered a stroke. Opinions on him vary, however, as the reasoning wasn't that he was a bad actor but rather that he was very different from Curly and the show dynamic changed because of it. Ironically, Curly was actually the replacement for Shemp, who was the third stooge during their Vaudeville days, before Curly even began acting.
- On the other hand, Joe Besser is universally hated, largely due to the stipulation that Moe couldn't hit him; this was like a kiss of death for any shorts featuring him, since annoying characters are tolerable only so long as their annoyance is appropriately punished. Indeed, Joe Besser rather than Shemp personifies this more as Shemp tends to be more popular than not.
- Curly Joe De Rita, for the most part, avoided this trope. He was brought in to play the third stooge during their comeback, and managed to be an effective stooge in his own right (and despite the name, he didn't act like Curly). It also helped that the guy he was replacing was the aforementioned (and widely hated) Besser.
- Glen Robbins in City Slickers II: The Legend of Curly's Gold is a perfect example of this trope, having replaced the much-loved character Ed Furillo from the first movie.
- Some feel this way towards the Spinosaurus for replacing the T.rex in Jurassic Park III.
- Jack Wade from James Bond, Bond's new CIA contact, replacing Felix Leiter in the Brosnan films. While in all fairness Leiter had kinda lost his legs in Licence to Kill, the replacement of a fan-favorite character going as far back as the original novels with a muumuu-wearing, boorish American stereotype didn't go over well. When Jeffrey Wright introduces himself as Felix Leiter in Casino Royale, everyone in the audience cheers.
- Dr. Jones from The World Is Not Enough manages the dubious honor of being a Replacement Scrappy for someone else in the same film.
- In Godzilla (2014), Ford Brody's Base-Breaking qualities are intensified after he replaces his father as the protagonist of the film.
- The short story Johnny Come Lately by Marc Singer tells the story from the Scrappy's point of view; based heavily on the Green Lantern furor outlined here, it tells the story of a young man picked at random as the replacement for a well-admired superhero after his death and the destruction of his entire league by the sentient hourglass that was his symbol, who finds his every effort, no matter how sincere, sneered at and put down by ingrates for no other reason than he's the new guy. Needless to say, the replacement isn't best pleased at his new lot in life.
- The Star Wars Expanded Universe regularly has our characters (especially Luke) being written out temporarily. So Shadows of the Empire readers hate Dash Rendar for his similarity to Han Solo. (It takes place between Empire and Jedi.) And Fate of the Jedi readers hate Kenth Hamner for trying to replace Luke. Oddly, Ben isn't hated, despite often being considered an Expy of Anakin Solo. Parodied with Abeloth, who tries to impersonate Mara and Callista and gets the Replacement Scrappy treatment (and a few fatal lightsaber wounds) from Luke himself for her efforts.
- In The Wheel of Time, following Moiraine's Heroic Sacrifice, Rand got a new bossy female mentor-type thing in Cadsuane. Unfortunately, while Moiraine was likeable and seemed to genuinely care about people, Cadsuane was a bossy, knowitall Mary Sue.
- In fairness, this was likely mostly intentional, as the original was putting the Aes Sedai and co in danger of being sympathetic and the author needed to keep them firmly in antagonist territory for later plot development to work. If Rand thought they were probably inclined to be reasonable and negotiated the series probably would have come in at its original intended length instead of seven or eight times longer.
- Wicked fans haven't taken much of an interest in Liir, who replaced Elphaba after she died. Being Elphaba's son doesn't stop him from being The Scrappy, and may have been even worse for his reputation.
- The Warrior Cats fanbase has had this reaction to a few characters.
- In Forest of Secrets, the third book in the series, Graystripe's mate Silverstream dies. Ten books later in The Sight, Graystripe, who was captured by humans in Dawn, returns to the Clans with a new mate called Millie. Millie has received a ton of hate, and most of it is for either not being Silverstream, or (among fans who completely ignore the aesop about racism) for being a former kittypet.
- Cinderheart, the reincarnation of the snarky medicine cat Cinderpelt, is hated for being more optimistic and playful than her jaded previous incarnation.
- In Sunrise, it was revealed that Hollyleaf, who was thought to be the subject of a prophecy, actually had no connection to the prophecy at all. When The Fourth Apprentice rolled around, Dovewing, the true hero, started receiving bile due to how different she was from Hollyleaf.
- Wink Martindale left Tic-Tac-Dough in 1985 to host his own creation, Headline Chasers. Taking his place for the final season was PM Magazine's Jim Caldwell. While the show remained the same outside of a set change, Caldwell did not impress as host. His obsession about the "red box categories (we'll explain them when we get to them)" didn't help matters.
- And when the show was brought back in 1990 for a one-season revival, it was hosted by John Wayne's son, Patrick Wayne. For a long time, the revival was derided as one of the worst game shows ever, even reaching memetic status on one game show forum. Criticisms included Wayne's over-excitable hosting stylenote , several rule changes that cheapened the game, a Totally Radical Bonus Round, and a weak Henry Mancini composition as the Theme Tune. However, the fandom has long since reached the consensus that the badness of the 1990 revival, and consequently of Wayne, were overstated.
- And on Jack Barry-Dan Enright Productions' other stalwart, The Jokers Wild, Barry's 1984 death led to Bill Cullen taking over as host. Although Cullen is often regarded as one of the best game show hosts, he was clearly past his prime on Joker, and was derided for hosting the game very slowly. (Jim Peck filled in when Cullen was unavailable, which once led to them having to stop tape and provide Peck with more question cards since the producers had become used to Cullen's slower style!)
- In the 1990-91 season, Joker also got a Re Tooled revival, helmed by Pat Finn. While the rule changes were somewhat more accepted than those of Tic-Tac-Dough, Finn was also seen as an example of this trope, as some felt that he was too dry and monotone.
- The illness and later death of Allen Ludden prompted Password Plus to attain a new permanent host in Tom Kennedy, who kept the show going another 2 years. A subsequent revival, Super Password, had Bert Convy as the host; some fans consider him a replacement Scrappy due to his chatty nature and frequent bloopers, but Super lasted 5 years under his tenure.
- The Hollywood Squares went through this twice.
- The first came when the producers of Match Game decided to partner with those of Squares to form The Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour in 1983-84. The Squares portion was hosted not by original Squares host Peter Marshall (who helmed the show from 1966 to 1980), but rather to Jon Bauman, aka Bowser of Sha Na Na. Bauman was obviously inexperienced and stiff in the role, not to mention overshadowed by original Match Game host Gene Rayburn.
- And it happened again with the 1986-88 revival, helmed by John Davidson. Many felt that the celebrity panel got too unruly, and that Davidson was unable to calm them down. Also, you'd think after being told thirty or forty times, he'd at least remember how to handle a "cat's game" without the producer screaming at him in his IFB…
- Davidson struck again on The $100,000 Pyramid. When the show returned from a three-year hiatus in 1991, original host Dick Clark was busy with The Challengers, so Davidson took over. As on Squares, Davidson frequently tripped over the rules and rarely felt as if he were in control.
- Family Feud:
- After the original Richard Dawson-hosted version went off the air in 1985, creator Mark Goodson launched a revival for CBS hosted by a young comedian named Ray Combs, which ran from 1988 to 1994. Depending on who is asked, Combs is either a straight example or inversion. Those who prefer Combs generally feel that Dawson's (usually) off-camera clashes with the higher-ups outweighed the warmth and wit he (usually) showed on-camera, while the pro-Dawson camp tends to see Combs as cold and smug. Still others feel that both brought their own styles to the table.
- Ironically, Dawson himself seemed to become one in 1994, when Goodson's son Jonathan saw that the show was sinking and decided to bring Dawson back. The years had not been kind to him, as the now 62-year-old Dawson was past his prime: he spoke slower and softer, he had gained a lot of weight, and his once-sharp wit was greatly dulled. The revived Dawson version lasted only a year.
- The current version, begun in 1999, originally went to comedian Louie Anderson. He was heavily panned for his weight, gravelly voice, and supposedly bored demeanor. After he left in 2002, a pattern began where each successive host was considered an improvement at first glance, but then the cracks began to show:
- Richard Karn (2002-06) was initially liked for his enthusiasm, and given a pass due to his inexperience in the field. Although he did show a brief period of competence, he eventually moved into an extremely stiff, robotic manner of hosting which was highly dependent on him shouting Catch Phrases ("I'M DOUBLING THE POINTS!").
- John O'Hurley (2006-10) was initially considered a step up, given his experience hosting To Tell the Truth in 2000-2002. But some felt that he considered Feud beneath him, while others found him poor at reacting to off-the-wall answers.
- Steve Harvey (2010-) instantly gained fans due to his hilarious reactions to stupid answers. However, the producers decided to try enforcing Harvey's Wild Takes as often as possible, leading to a more sophomoric level of question-writing that basically baited contestants into giving lurid answers.
- Many long-time watchers of The Price Is Right were wondering "What were they thinking?" when the show decided to replace the retiring Bob Barker with Drew Carey as host. In Carey's defense, it would be hard for audiences to see anyone replacing Barker, since he had hosted the show for an amazing 35 years.
- This can also apply to the announcer's booth. After Johnny Olson's 1985 death, Rod Roddy's 2003 death, and Rich Fields' 2010 firing, the show tried out various guest announcers on-air before determining the successor. The substitutes are all victims of Replacement Scrappydom to some extent, but some of the more prominent ones include:
- Rich Jeffries only did a couple weeks after Johnny's death. Many feel that his flat, nasal voice shouldn't have been behind the mic of any game show, much less a show such as Price which requires a lot on the announcer's part.
- Rod's increasing illness in the late 90s-early 2000s led to many fill ins by former Arsenio Hall show announcer Burton Richardson, who also did the 1994 syndicated Re Tool of Price. Some fans consider Burton a solid announcer, while others think he sounds like an overblown parody of one with a "puking" style.
- Another fill-in during Rod's surgery was Paul Boland, who previously did the 1998 revival of Match Game. While he has his fans, some felt he was too enthusiastic. He ended up announcing only one week after refusing demands from Price staff to tone it down.
- Among those who filled in after Rod's death, Daniel Rosen was universally hated by both the fandom and the staff for a serious lack of enthusiasm, not to mention Astro Turfing fan forum Golden-Road.net with about 50 sockpuppets praising his own performance.
- Despite the many other fill-ins after Rod's death, most had at least some supporters. However, Don Bishop got some hatred from fans for outright refusing to go off-script, while Price staff nearly kicked Jim Thornton (see below) off after only one episode, possibly due to his voice cracking.
- Rich Fields himself started to become this over time, in part because he was picked over fan favorite Randy Westnote , and in part because many felt that Rich did not have a good voice — particularly in later years, when he became increasingly loud and grating. (Never mind Drew's short-lived decision to incorporate him into some downright humiliating "comedy" skits in the Showcases.)
- After Rich was fired, the substitutes included Steve White and Brad Sherwood, both of whom were hated for their fake enthusiasm; former Shop 'Til You Drop host JD Roberto, who was considered So Okay, It's Average; and a rather close division among Jeff Davis, David H. Lawrence XVII, or George Gray, who ultimately became the replacement.
- Wheel of Fortune had this happen a couple times:
- In the 1980s, the show's most famous host-hostess tandem (Pat Sajak and Vanna White) had their share of haters due to the former's purported blandness and the latter's purported lack of talent beyond looking pretty and turning letters. (MAD once joked that Sajak is the only man in show biz who gets upstaged by a woman who never speaks.) At the very least, they had a different style than the comparatively looser and imperfect Chuck Woolery and Susan Stafford, who hosted the show from its 1975 beginnings on NBC. (Chuck left in 1981 due to a salary dispute, and Susan a year later to pursue charity work.) To Pat and Vanna's credit, they've hosted the nighttime version consistently since it began in 1983, so they must be doing something right. Most of those who are against Pat and/or Vanna are likely just applying the Nostalgia Filter.
- Sajak stepped down from the daytime version in January 1989 because he wanted to begin a talk show. Creator Merv Griffin replaced him with Rolf Bernischke, a former football player who had literally no TV experience and was visibly out of his element; among other things, he had to admit on-air that he didn't know how to break a tie when one happenednote , and once had a contestant correct him on one of the game's rules... during a Teen Week. After only six months, the daytime version Channel Hopped to CBS and replaced Rolf with the more seasoned Bob Goen, who was able to carry it for a three years (counting a hop back to NBC) before daytime game shows became Deader Than Disco.
- Announcer M.G. Kelly, who announced both versions of the show from September 1988 to February 1989 (between Jack Clark's death and the return of original daytime announcer Charlie O'Donnell). Kelly is generally hated by the fanbase for a supposed lack of enthusiasm. Pat also thought that M.G. was a nice guy, but felt that he was not suited for the job, as he often screwed up prize copy and had to do multiple re-takes.
- A similar hatred came for those who filled in after Charlie's death in November 2010. Veteran announcers John Cramer, Joe Cipriano, and the aforementioned Rich Fields were generally hated for their own lack of enthusiasm, as was extremely obscure voiceover artist Lora Cain.note This put the fanbase almost unanimously in favor of Jim Thornton, who got the job in summer 2011.
- When Let's Make a Deal was revived in 1990, original host/co-producer Monty Hall felt that he was too old to host anymore, so he chose Bob Hilton to host. Hilton, who had far more experience as an announcer than as a host, was so poorly received by the fanbase that Hall actually guest-hosted the last few weeks to try and save a sinking ship. His original intent was merely to fill in until he could find a suitable host to carry Season 2, but the show got canceled instead.
- Although she is not without her fans (not to mention her two Daytime Emmys for "Outstanding Game Show Host"), Meredith Vieira is sometimes seen as this on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? in comparison to original host Regis Philbin. (The switch in hosts coincided with the show moving from ABC to syndication.) Detractors of Meredith find her style too low-key and nicey-nice, particularly in comparison to the often exuberant Regis. Perhaps this is the reason for swinging the pendulum back to more exuberance by hiring Cedric the Entertainer as Meredith's replacement when she left.
- A fair number of UK game show Hole In The Wall fans see Anton Du Beke as this after he replaced Dale Winton (of Supermarket Sweep fame) as presenter.
- An inversion. Scott Beach was the first announcer on The Newlywed Game, but was kicked out because he would sing war protest songs to the audience during commercial breaks. He was replaced by Johnny Jacobs, who was anything but a Scrappy — he held his Newlywed role alone for 14 years and later went on to become a prolific announcer (besides many other shows by Newlywed creator Chuck Barris, he also handled The Jokers Wild and Tic-Tac-Dough) until his 1980 death.
- Late in the 1980s revival of The Newlywed Game, Paul Rodriguez took over from the show's longtime host, Bob Eubanks (who had hosted multiple versions dating back to the 60s). Rodriguez was originally seen as overbearing and too far-removed from Bob's "loveable sleazeball" shtick, but eventually grew into the role, thus making him an aversion.
- Carnie Wilson, who hosted the 2000s revival, was seen as this by many, although many who have been to tapings say that she comes off much better in-studio.
- In 1989, Bert Convy stepped down as host of Win Lose Or Draw to host and produce 3rd Degree!, with Entertainment Tonight correspondent Robb Weller replacing him. Weller was generally disliked for his stiff hosting style and tripping over the rules, and his version lasted only one season. Meanwhile, from 1989-92, Disney Channel had a Re Tool for the younger audience called Teen Win, Lose or Draw; this version was hosted by obscure actor Marc Price, who failed to impress for similar reasons.
- Whose Line Is It Anyway? when Aisha took over the revival. Not that she's not funny, but you can almost touch the awkwardness. It's all fun and games until you can't make fun of the Host's Race/Shape/Sexuality with impunity.
- Many entries in the Music subpages for Fanon Discontinuity and Dork Age deal with Replacement Scrappies.
- Kenny Jones, successor to drummer Keith Moon of The Who, is this to many people - to the point where singer Roger Daltrey refused to do reunion tours with the group unless Jones was dismissed. Perhaps due to the passage of time, Jones' replacement Zak Starkey and the late John Entwistle's substitute bassist Pino Palladino, have fared better.
- In music there's the fans reactions to the many incarnations of Queens of the Stone Age - "What happened to Nick Oliveri?", "Dave Grohl was a way better drummer than this guy", "Mark Lanegan should be the singer", "Josh should just reform Kyuss..."
- Before the worldwide phenomenon that was Beatlemania, a fair number of their O.G. British fans resented the fact that Ringo Starr replaced Pete Best on drums. The exact reason for Best being fired varies depending on where you hear it from, being either because he didn't fit in with John, George, and Paul, he was too moody, or Brian Epstein not thinking he was a good enough drummer. At the time, Pete was the most popular member of the group in their home of Liverpool, and fans would carry signs saying, "Ringo Never, Pete Forever" at their concerts.
- Many Metallica fans (including the other band members themselves) are guilty of heaping unnecessary scorn on Jason Newsted because he had the misfortune of replacing the late, lamented Cliff Burton on bass. Metallica themselves shared the sentiment, constantly treating Newsted like "the newbie" and burying his bass work in the mixes. Newsted eventually left the band over his poor treatment, and while his replacement, Robert Trujillo, gets some redirected scorn from fans, the band themselves absolutely love him, openly calling him "the man who saved Metallica."
- Sammy Hagar. There's a reason people refuse to call the Hagar-era band Van Halen...
- There's a fair bit of denial that Van Halen did a record with Gary Cherone.
- Eddie's son Wolfgang, who replaced Michael Anthony on bass, gets unfairly treated this way at times. At least a large amount of this by fans who want Anthony to return, and/or who object to Anthony being replaced unceremoniously by Wolfgang prior to the release of A Different Kind Of Truth. Eddie, in the meantime, is open to a reunion, but credits his inspiration for the new album to jamming with Alex and Wolfgang in Eddie's studio.
- Queen with Paul Rodgers; it isn't that he's a bad singer, it's just that Freddie is one hell of a tough act to follow. Even the band themselves insist on being known as "Queen and Paul Rodgers".
- Similarly, INXS with J.D. Fortune isn't INXS.
- The Finnish monster rock band Lordi has had this problem. To date, they've replaced the bassist three times (Magnum with G-Stealer, G-Stealer with Kalma, and Kalma with OX) and the pianist once (Enary with Awa.) While very few fans can deny that the quality of the music has never diminished after a switch, and has often improved, the new band member's costume can cause fits in the fandom (for example, Enary, the busty blonde valkyrie, being replaced with Awa, the grey corpse-like ghost/witch.)
- William DuVall in Alice in Chains. He's not Layne Staley and most fans just can't accept that.
- This is very common in female-fronted metal:
- Nightwish: after Tarja Turunen was replaced with Anette Olzon, the latter was quickly disliked for not having the strong vocal range of her predecessor. Averted with her replacement, Floor Jansen (formerly of After Forever), who is mostly well-liked.
- The Agonist and Arch-Enemy have a similar one. In The Agonist, Alissa White-Gluz was the first vocalist (and one of the founding memebers) but she was kicked out of the band for joining Arch-Enemy when long-term vocalist Angela Gossow decided to call it quits. Vicky Psarakis (The Agonist) is massively hated for "not being Alissa" and Alissa has the same problem in Arch-Enemy for not being Angela.
- Tristania is often considered to not be the same after Vibeke Stene left and the Italian Mary Demurtas took over.
- The same goes for Theatre Of Tragedy following the departure of Liv Kristine.
- A tragic example occurs with the band Elis from Liechtenstein, whose first singer unexpectedly succumbed to a cerebral hemorrhage in 2006. Given the circumstances, the fans contained themselves, but the two following singers never managed to step out of the shadow of Sabine Dünser.
- Likewise, Tim 'Ripper' Owens was hated by many Judas Priest and Iced Earth fans for not being Rob Halford or Matt Barlow, even though he's a very talented vocalist in his own right.
- However, being fired right around Christmas just to bring back Matt Barlow lead to a thankfully death-free version of Alas, Poor Scrappy. Which was kind of sad because many Iced Earth fans had just started to accept Ripper.
- On the other hand, there have been relatively few complaints about Stu Block, who came in after Barlow left again, largely thanks to his ability to sound like a dead ringer for either Barlow or Ripper when he so chooses without compromising his own unique sound.
- Similarly, Blaze Bayley is not Bruce Dickinson.
- Accept lost a considerable amount of fans after replacing vocalist Udo Dirkschneider with David Reece and drastically changed their sound on their Eat The Heat album, after which they wisely took back Udo.
- Notably averted, however, on their 2010 album Blood of the Nations, which features Mark Tornillo on vocals and has been widely praised by Accept fans, with many claiming it to be superior to the material produced during Udo's second stint with the band.
- Also likewise, Mike DiMeo is hated by Masterplan fans for not being the almost identically styled Jorn Lande.
- After Drowning Pool vocalist Dave Williams' sudden death, a lot of fans found it difficult to accept his replacement vocalist Jason Jones (which likely contributed to his departure from the band), and after Jones quit, his replacement vocalistSoil singer Ryan McCombs was slightly more accepted, though still considered inferior to Williams.
- Even though it's been almost fifteen years, many fans of Helloween still do not accept their current vocalist Andi Deris. Bear in mind that Deris has been with the band longer than both Michael Kiske and Kai Hansen combined! Of course, it doesn't help that Kiske was the vocalist for Helloween's most successful albums, Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt. 1 & Pt. 2.
- An odd example happened early on with the new drummer brought in to back up They Might Be Giants on "John Henry". What was so odd? He replaced a drum machine. Some fans protested the move, although pretty much everyone has since gotten over it.
- When Vince Neil left Mötley Crüe in the early '90s, they decided to replace him for their ironically self-titled album in 1994. They would retroactively blame its poor sales on "the new ingredient", as stated in Behind The Music.
- Averted by the Thrash Metal band Municipal Waste. They got rid of their original drummer, so they decided to get Dave Witte from the legendary grindcore band Discordance Axis. No one even DARED to complain.
- Although it sorta sucks if you were a fan of Burnt By The Sun because Witte joining the Waste was probably one of the reasons BBTS broke up.
- Kamelot has a rare inversion. Original vocalist Mark Vanderbilt is now disliked by most of the fandom, however, considering his mediocre to awful singing style, and replacement by the classically trained opera styled Roy Khan previously of the Progressive Metal band Conception, you can't blame them.
- Averted to an incredible degree by AC/DC. After singer Bon Scott died their first album with Brian Johnson was Back in Black. Back in Black is the second best selling album of all time. (some Scott fans still don't like him, though)
- Various people dislike Michael Tait taking over as lead singer for the Newsboys despite him being a decent singer, simply because he doesn't sound like previous lead Peter Furler.
- Averted by Genesis, who decided to promote drummer Phil Collins to the vocals spot instead of bringing in a replacement for Peter Gabriel, who up until then had been the face of the band with his unique voice, fairy-tale-on-acid lyrics and theatrical stage act. Collins' voice sounded similar enough to Gabriel's to work for a few albums, but after Collins' more poppy solo career was a success, the band went for a poppy sound themselves, which naturally led to a Broken Base.
- Country music band Lonestar, already under criticism for switching to pop-influenced, soccer mom-friendly fare, was heavily criticized during the period in which Cody Collins replaced longtime lead singer Richie McDonald (2007-2011). Many reviewers felt that the band just didn't sound the same. Richie finally re-joined in 2011.
- Record Producer Dann Huff has been seen as this when he replaced Mark Bright as Rascal Flatts' go-to producer. Huff was heavily criticized for surrounding the band with extremely bombastic arrangements and saddling them with weightless, Narmy, over-sung songs starting with "What Hurts the Most". (Coincidentally, Huff was also the man responsible for changing Lonestar's sound.) Rascal Flatts finally dumped Huff (except for one track) on 2014's Rewind.
- Even over a decade later, there still are Angra fans embittered that Edu Falaschi replaced Andre Matos as lead singer (despite Matos' leaving being of his own will, and being from a more complicated matter than musical differences). One of their main complaints about Falaschi is that he couldn't even sing the band's signature song, "Carry On", without slipping out of tune.
- On the note of Brazilian metal bands, this happened to Sepultura when Derrick Green replaced Max Cavalera. Curiously, Jean Dolabella didn't receive as much flak when he substituted Igor Cavalera on drums, both because the two albums he recorded (A-Lex and Kairos) were well received and because everyone (even in the band) was pretty much waiting for Igor to follow his bro.
- Many fans of Exodus hate their latest vocalist Rob Dukes, partially because of his drastically different style of singing than Paul Baloff and Steve 'Zetro' Souza, their previous two singers, though they also have their own reasons. The fact that the band chose to re-record their landmark debut album with him didn't help at all. However, the band has only released 3 original albums with Dukes, so they still have time to warm up to him.
- Faith No More both inverted and played this one straight. Inverted in that their singer on the first two albums, Chuck Mosely, was unceremoniously fired from the band and replaced by Mike Patton, and you can count the number of people who thought this was a bad thing on the fingers of one hand. However, since Jim Martin departed in 1993 following the release of Angel Dust, a series of guitarists appeared and each one was given grief simply for not being Jim. Even when they reformed in 2009 with the same lineup they had since 1996, some people were upset because Jim wasn't involved.
- Quite possibly Guns N' Roses' second drummer, Matt Sorum. Axl Rose described other former members of the band as 'former members', but described Sorum as a 'former employee'. It probably didn't help that the guy he replaced, Steven Adler (whose heroin addiction was so bad he could barely stay awake during recording sessions) happens to be a childhood friend of Slash.
- The Dead Kennedys have never been able to really recover after the bands reunion without Jello Biafra.
- Any Yes vocalist not named Jon Anderson, and to a lesser extent any keyboardist other than Rick Wakeman and any guitarist other than Steve Howe are generally regarded as replacement scrappies by at least some large part of Yes' infamously fragmented fanbase. Howe and Wakeman themselves averted this and are actually far more popular than the band members they replaced.
- Ask an Obituary fan about their opinion on Ralph Santolla's run with the band. If they don't refer to him as "that drunken retard who had to play some ridiculously overblown guitar solo every thirty seconds", then you have made a very, very, very rare find. While somewhat divisive with Deicide fans, most of them enjoyed The Stench of Redemption and didn't place all of the blame on him for the lackluster quality of the other two Santolla-era Deicide albums. Obituary fans, on the other hand, despise him, wish that they had never hired him to replace Allen West, and like to pretend that the two albums that he was on never existed.
- For many of Chicago's longtime, die-hard fans, any guitarist whose name isn't Terry Kath.
- Jonathan Coachman and, to a lesser extent, Joey Styles got this when they replaced Jim Ross as the play-by-play announcer for Raw.
- Michael Cole seems to have somewhat avoided this when Ross was moved to Smack Down rather than simply taken off TV. Mostly because he was already The Scrappy to begin with.
- And Mike Adamle got this for replacing Styles (who retired from play-by-play announcing out of the blue) on ECW. When he became Raw's General Manager (ironically, the previous GM William Regal returned from suspension on the same day), his replacement of Todd Grisham is probably seen as an improvement.
- Joey Styles only got the job for two reasons: 1. WWE failed to snag UFC commentator Mike Goldberg, and 2. the general consensus was that Joey was the only possible choice that would not be seen as a Replacement Scrappy by the fanbase. And, while he still did get a bit of heat over it (Fan Dumb being what it is), most of the criticism of Joey actually came from the upper management, who hated his style from the very start and constantly exhorted him to call the matches more like Jim Ross used to (i.e. with less emphasis on play-by-play and more emphasis on "telling the story" of the match). It seems WWE will never be satisfied with any replacement until they can find somebody exactly like Jim Ross, but younger, less Southern, and more telegenic (in other words: Crockett Promotions-era Jim Ross), while the fans will not be satisfied until they can find somebody exactly like Jim Ross, but better able to call the moves. Either way, it shows why Jim Ross is generally thought to be irreplaceable.
- On the plus side, Matt Striker has taken his place on Smack Down!, but his ECW replacement (Byron Saxton) isn't exactly a perfect substitute, though popular enough.
- The hatred (and the 'Cole Miners' fanbase) for Michael Cole in 2010-2012 (largely due to his ridiculous fanboying of The Miz) until the writers gave him legitimate Character Development and became a damn near evil heel and even gave him a real feud (and WrestleMania 27 match) against Jerry Lawler. Also the Smackdown table was joined by Booker T. He got turned face again, and saved, possibly for life, after the Lawler heart attack.
- One of the most famous examples is Lex Luger's face run in WWF, where he was essentially Hulk Hogan's Replacement Scrappy. Despite (or perhaps because of) him playing the All American Face to an even greater hilt than Hogan himself, the fans still saw him as a cheap imitation and hated him. But they kept trying, and trying, and trying to get him over… It didn't help that Luger's "Narcissist" character was rather well-liked and was getting pretty over when it was just inexplicably dumped for the "Made in the USA" gimmick.
- Another great example was the fake Diesel and fake Razor Ramon (Rick "Big Titan" Bogner, best known for his work in FMW), three months after Scott Hall and Kevin Nash left for WCW. These two were a deliberate invocation of the Replacement Scrappy trope, as they were introduced by a freshly Face Heel Turned Jim Ross specifically to embarrass Vince McMahon and the WWF. There were legal issues involved as well. WWF was suing WCW at the time over Hall and Nash's appearance, claiming they were passing them off as Ramon and Diesel (the two were unnamed "invaders" at the time, and weren't named until their first PPV match, at WCW Bash at the Beach 96, where Hulk Hogan turned heel to launch the NWO). New characters with the same names (intentional Replacement Scrappy or not) was a clear sign that WWF intended to use and enforce the trademarked names.
- When Jerry Lawler left the WWF in 2001, his replacement, Paul Heyman, got all kinds of crazed hatred from a fanbase demanding that Jerry be brought back. Heyman actually did a phenomenal job as commentator...which became all the more apparent when Jerry came back and proceeded to completely mail in his performance for the next decade. And, of course, Heyman started gaining his fair share of fans over his months as an announcer, so when he was booted for the returning Lawler, Lawler got his share of this as well.
- In their unexplained release of Daniel Puder, a proven respected participant in a real combat sport, WWE doomed The Miz, the runner up to the WWE Tough Enough contest that Puder won by fan vote, to this status. It didn't help that Miz talked about having to overcome the stigma of not coming from something like MMA during his early years in the wrestling industry, which only drew more minds to Puder and the program with Kurt Angle that WWE thoughtlessly threw away.
- When WWC found out it could no longer book its long running top star, Ray González, they needed someone to fill his spot. Who did they choose? X-Pac, yes, that one. Oh, and when they couldn't get WWE to let them have more time with Carly, guess who was used to fill in for him? That's right, X-Pac again!
- Alex Riley and Michael McGillicutty unfortunately became hit with this status when once again, WWE hosted a fan voted contest, in this case NXT, and once again the voted winner of the contest, Kaval in this case, vanished.
- Directly addressed in Adventures in Odyssey. Over the course of two loosely-connected episodes, Whit turns out to have left for the Middle East off-camera while his friend Jack Allen is introduced. Jack winds up taking over as manager of Whit's End, as well as approximating Whit's original role to the point where Connie freaks out and accuses Jack of trying to "replace" him. She gets over it by the end of the episode, thanks in part to Jack himself acknowledging that neither he nor anyone else could ever replace Whit.
- Narrowly averted on Im Sorry I Havent A Clue. When the much-beloved chairman Humphrey "Humph" Lyttleton died unexpectedly in 2008, the remainder of the series was cancelled, and the future of the series was in doubt. When the series was confirmed to be returning, rather than risk the inevitable disappointment of whoever replaced him, there's a rotating series of hosts — Stephen Fry, Jack Dee, and Rob Brydon, all fairly popular comics who had appeared on the show before.
- Humph was 87 when he died. It says something that he lived to that age, and everyone was still shocked and felt he went far too soon.
- The rotating hosts have since been abandoned, and Jack Dee is, as of 2012, the permanent replacement host. Most believe that he's doing well, although some simply find they can't listen to the programme anymore.
- After longtime radio broadcaster Paul Harvey died in 2009, his two radio shows (Paul Harvey's News and Comment and The Rest of the Story) were replaced by shows hosted by Gil Gross and Doug Limerick. Gross's and Limerick's shows lasted three weeks before being canned for The Huckabee Report.
- Terry Wogan made a truly heroic effort to prevent this when Chris Evans took over his morning slot on BBC Radio 2, aided and abetted by the fact that at least nobody was foolish enough to try to find a Suspiciously Similar Substitute for Wogan. Audience reactions were mixed, to say the least, and generally varied, according to whether you could stand the drivetime show Evans had been hosting previously, and how much you missed Sarah Kennedy, whose immediately preceding show was shortened and sidelined to give Evans more airtime. note
- American Country Countdown, upon firing longtime host Bob Kingsley in 2005 and replacing him with Kix Brooks of Brooks & Dunn. Many longtime fans of the show dislike Kix Brooks for his high, whiny voice and "chummy" attitude towards artists, not to mention the corporate decision to cut the show from 40 to 30 because program directors were "uncomfortable" with the newness of the 31-40 songs (the show later reverted to 40). Meanwhile, many professional deejays hate Kix for quickly rising in the ranks of professional radio hosts despite a lack of experience.
- Country Gold, a syndicated classic country show hosted by Rowdy Yates, replaced him with Alabama lead singer Randy Owen in mid-2012. Under Owen's watch, the show was cut from 5 hours to 4, listener requests were no longer taken live (they were voicemailed instead), and Randy focused the show more on firsthand stories with the artists in the biz instead of the historical tidbits and interviews that Rowdy offered. (Naturally, the number of Alabama songs played per hour went through the roof.) Randy was also criticized for his sleepy hosting style, compared to the more energetic Rowdy. In response, Rowdy started his own show 9 months later, which was identical in style to the original Country Gold. As a result, many affiliates who had been stuck with Randy Owen switched back to Rowdy once he got his new show.
- In Dino Attack RPG, when his own primary character of Zenna ended up in a coma due to massive blood loss, Atton Rand decided to try Playing Against Type, going against his usual idealistic all around good-natured women in favor of a cold-blooded anti-hero, who would also follow as a Spiritual Successor to the very popular anti-hero Dust. Unfortunately the resulting character of Trigger acted like a Jerkass to his fellow cast members, which came as a unexpected shock to players who were familiar with the friendly Zenna, and unlike the more interesting and complex Dust, Trigger's motivations were far less complex and interesting, making him seem shallow in comparison; as a result, he became a Replacement Scrappy on two fronts. Reception started to warm up with a series of flashbacks detailing his rivalry with Amanda (and in the process introduced his partner Montoya, who was ironically had a significantly warmer reception) until he went and deserted the team, which again took chilled his reception. Eventually, the whole deal got so out of hand that Atton Rand eventually killed him off and humiliated him further with a humorous afterlife scene that also poked fun at an earlier Deus ex Machina... and even that was not as well-received as he'd hoped.
- Stromling!Palmer was originally created to fill in the void left open by the Zachary's redemption and Ahua's sudden death. Unfortunately, the idea wasn't too well received by other players, and he was quickly humiliated by the Darkitect himself and subsequently beheaded by Trigger.
- Whenever a prominent/legendary athlete retires or leaves his longtime team via a trade or free agency, his replacement at that position is almost certain to become this. We say "almost", because the replacement could become legendary in his own right (see Steve Young replacing Joe Montana, for instance).
- The Because It's The Cup commercials promoting the 2012 Stanley Cup playoffs. Pretty good in their own right, but few are happy to see them replacing History Will Be Made.
- After the Boston Red Sox suffered a major collapse in September 2011 that cost them a trip to the World Series, manager Terry Francona, who had led the Sox to two World Series wins, was fired, and replaced by Bobby Valentine, who has repeatedly come off as a disrespectful jerk, and has actually sent the Sox close to last place in the MLB.
- MASSIVELY averted with MLB's 2013 season; new Red Sox manager John Farrell, taking over from Bobby Valentine, not only managed the Sox to first place in the AL East - a complete turnaround from the previous yearyear, but they also made it to the 2013 World Series.
- With Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal having been living legends in the sport of tennis for so long, it's safe to say that anyone who replaced them as the World No. 1 would be doomed from the very start to be unable to live up to his universally beloved predecessors in many tennis fans' eyes. Add to that how Novak Djokovic tends to be somewhat of a Large Ham in contrast to Federer and Nadal and how his ascension to the No. 1 spot in 2011 included inflicting a series of painful losses on both of them, and you basically have the sports equivalent of this trope. Djokovic's gained his own large fanbase since then, but there are still some fans who will never forgive him for not being Federer or Nadal.
- Australian Rules Football: When the Fitzroy Lions were forced to merge with the Brisbane Bears to become the Brisbane Lions at the end of the 1996 season, many Fitzroy fans saw the new entity as this... at least, until they won the premiership in 2001, and then went on to make it three in a row in the next two years. On the other hand, the Fitzroy loyalists who follow the Victorian team are still going strong and don't give two hoots about the Brisbane club so this trope still applies in good doses. It's especially painful when the AFL introduced clubs in areas of the country that are nowhere near as hardcore about the sport just to attract new markets.
- The Tome of Battle classes in Dungeons & Dragons 3.5 are often acknowledged as some of the best-designed in the game, being fun, reasonably powerful, and very capable of doing their jobs. However, the fact that they seemed to be designed after certain older classes (warblade as fighter, crusader as paladin, swordswge as monk), while also being considerably better than them earned them no small amount of scorn from fans of those classes, who thought Tome of Battle signaled that Wizards was giving up on them. The mild-to-moderate Animesque nature of the classes in question didn't help.
- In general, whenever a theme park closes a ride for a new one, many fans of the old ride won't be too thrilled with the new ride.
- The above especially applies to Disney Theme Parks. Usually examples are mixed with a nice helping of They Changed It, Now It Sucks for attractions that get revamps.
- Disneyland's most well-known example is Light Magic, a rather underwhelming replacement for the world famous Long Runner Main Street Electrical Parade. Being stripped of the Electrical Parade (which has not been performed in its place of origin since its original cancellation and is now at Walt Disney World) has haunted Disneyland fans for years.
- Actually, this is basically true whenever a new Disneyland parade or show replaces an old one. See Parade of Dreams vs. Celebrate! A Street Party. This will usually wear off after a while if the show is any good, though. Subverted with Celebrate!'s replacement, Mickey's Soundsational Parade.
- Epcot's Imagination pavilion has Nigel Channing, who replaced Dreamfinder as the host of a revamp of its dark ride. Unusually for this trope, he predated the revamp; he was imported from the popular 3-D Movie Honey, I Shrunk the Audience in an attempt to tie all of the pavillion's attractions together. Then again, the Journey Into Imagination revamps are largely They Changed It, Now It Sucks anyway, thanks in part to penny-pinching on the part of Disney Theme Parks at the time.
- Also, Stich's Great Escape, which replaced The ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter. The horror show in the dark premise of the original production was replaced with a comedy show in the dark, which only served to annoy adults while still frightening children.
- When The Haunted Mansion at Disneyland replaced their Mourning Bride character with the more modern Constance Hatchway, with updated effects and a more sinister personality, casual park visitors responded fairly well to her, but many die hard Mansion fans did not react well to the new character.
- In late 2007, Universal Studios closed Back to the Future: The Ride to replace it with The Simpsons Ride. To say that the fans of the former weren't happy is an understatement. This may be a reason why the new ride's queue video loop includes an original segment in which Professor Frink attempts to use time travel to keep the Institute of Future Technology from being replaced with Krustyland, and instead ensures that it is. From there, Doc Brown — voiced by Christopher Lloyd — takes up Krusty's offer of employment at his park!
- Hero Factory is this for many BIONICLE fans, particularly those who were in it for the story rather than the toys.
- Barbie was with Ken for forty-three years before Mattel decided to have them break up so she could date Blaine, an Australian surfer. Sales meant that their relationship was significantly shorter.
- There's a fair amount of people who didn't take kindly to Hasbro's decision to redesign the Generation 3 line of My Little Pony toys. Originally looking like traditional ponies, the characters all got a Super-Deformed design that some felt was rife with the Uncanny Valley. The negative reaction to these Generation 3.5 ponies may well have reached Hasbro, as the toys ran for only around one and a half years before they released Generation 4, which have proportions much closer to those of the original toys.
- Not a whole lot of Rock Raiders fans were pleased by LEGO Power Miners. Although the quality of the sets themselves had improved, the lime/orange color scheme, less-memorable characters, and goofier Rock Monsters made Power Miners seem inferior to their predecessors.
- Way before the BIONICLE - Hero Factory debacle, LEGO received scorn for replacing their original foray into the world of buildable robotic action figures, Slizers, with the much more esoteric Robo Riders, which were weird-looking alien motorbikes instead of posable action figures. The line wasn't a success, and for its follow-up (BIONICLE), they went back to and refined the Slizers formula instead.
- A case of this happening in-series is when Enzo has to replace Bob as guardian. Despite being just as competent at saving the day, the people think of the most inane reasons to dislike him. Like being green instead of blue.
- Also, in a bizarre case of meta-trope, certain Bootniks hated Matrix for "replacing" Enzo, despite him being the older version of Enzo. The abrupt transformation was just too much for some oldschoolers to parse.
- Parodied in the second movie where Bob is believed to be a copy when another Bob, who looks and sounds more like the original shows up. This is particularly highlighted in the opening scene which takes place in front of a live audience. The audience cheers when any other character enters, but when Bob arrives, all we hear are the crickets chirping.
- Toonami gets hit hard with this: the first 3 TOMs have had changes, but still kept the basic structure (a somewhat humanoid robot with a cool motorcycle helmetish head). More importantly, the TOM models have increased in awesome over the years. TOM4's head and torso looks like they were ripped off Thomas The Tank Engine, and his limbs looked like vacuum cleaner hoses. And they replaced SARA, his AI sidekick, with a couple of 'explorer robots'. Much earlier, TOM himself got hit with this when he introduced himself as "the new Moltar".
- DC Comics
- The Batman could more or less be considered this for an entire series, as many hated it not being Batman: The Animated Series. There's also the fact that its existence prevented Batman villains from appearing on Justice League Unlimited, even though the writers said that didn't mean that much, not to mention that if one does the research, they'd see that The Batman itself had it's own Executive Meddling it had to go through (Robin wasn't allowed to be used for a long time because of Teen Titans, and the villains of Batman Begins, Scarecrow and Ra's Al Ghul, could never be used.)
- When Batman: The Brave and the Bold got similar reactions, Bat-Mite showed up and broke the fourth wall in an episode countering such attitudes:
Bat-Mite: Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a lighter incarnation, but it's certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots than the tortured avenger crying out for mommy and daddy.
- Young Justice has gotten some flack from Teen Titans and Justice League fans who are still bitter about the latter being Screwed by the Network, and not too fond of the fact that the cast of Young Justice doesn't have any DCAU or Teen Titans voice actors reprising their roles. Teen Titans fans also don't like it for its "lack of fun", instead focusing on being Darker and Edgier than both the original Young Justice comic and the Teen Titans show, despite the fact that Teen Titans comics are Darker and Edgier since 1981.
- Beware the Batman is said to be this for replacing Green Lantern: The Animated Series and not being as good as Batman: The Animated Series.
- South Park:
- Parodied when Kenny died "permanently" (he came back after one season), the three remaining boys took a previously minor character, Butters, as his replacement. They then proceeded to manipulate and torture him, constantly comparing him to their sadly missed Kenny to try to force him to do things their way. After a few episodes they "fired" him for not being good enough, and replaced him with another minor character, Tweek. Interestingly, the boys warm up to him a lot quicker (aside from Cartman of course), even though he also vanished after a few episodes. Meanwhile Butters, despite being officially "demoted," actually wound up being a subversion both in and out universe—-even after Kenny's resurrection he continues to be a major character on par with the others, as well as quite the Ensemble Dark Horse, his relationship with the other boys is also developed somewhat (only a season later it is made clear the others at least like him a lot more than Cartman).
- Also parodied in much earlier in "Succubus" when Chef quits his job as the school chef and is replaced with a skinny white Cloudcuckoolander named Mr. Derp, who has No Fourth Wall and believes that the viewers will love him as much as Chef.
- Within the fanbase, both Butters and Tweek had actually received backlash from fans that missed Kenny. When Butters had been replaced with Tweek (although it too wouldn't last long), his fans also cried foul and directed their anger at the other character. In the end after all was said and done, Butters' role continued to grow in the series while Tweek's appearances decreased, culminating in him vanishing from the classroom scenes in season 15.
- Following the death of voice actress Mary Kay Bergman in 1999, these accusations have been flung at her replacements. Mona Marshall is mostly tolerated as she doesn't voice as many roles for the fans to draw comparisons to, but Eliza Schneider and her own replacement April Stewart receive more criticism and backlash.
- Detective Yates gets this treatment for replacing the much funnier Officer Barbrady.
- Subverted in-show in The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy. In one episode, Mandy and Grim replace Billy with a new friend named Bobby. The two of them wind up thinking Bobby is better than Billy ever was, much to Billy's horror. Eventually though, Billy destroyed Bobby with Grim's sythe, and Mandy dosen't even care, showing that even liking someone better than Billy doesn't mean she likes them.
- Many Super Mario Bros. fans greatly dislike Oogtar the caveboy from the Super Mario World cartoon, who was essentially an obnoxious replacement for a major character from the games (Toad), despite the fact that no cavepeople, including Oogtar, ever appeared in the Super Mario World video game.
- When The Fantastic Four (1978) was in development, a prior contract with Universal was already in place for a potential Human Torch movie, which kept him from being used. So they replaced him with HERBIE (above pic), Reed Richards' assistant robot. The irony here is that Johnny Storm was originally a replacement himself. Oddly, fans didn't mind when HERBIE was added to the comics. Of course, the Torch wasn't kept out of those.
- Dimmy from The Snorks was written out of the scripts after season two. At the same time Corky, Big Weed and Lil Seaweed were introduced.
- During the ninth season of the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon, the Shredder and his crew were replaced by invading alien Lord Dregg, who took over as Big Bad during the show's last two seasons. While capably voiced by Tony Jay and arguably more menacing and effective than the Shredder, many fans found that he lacked the charm of his predecessors.
- In The Critic webisodes, Jay Sherman's new make-up lady/girlfriend Jennifer is this, replacing his original make-up woman Doris and his actual girlfriend Alice Tompkins, both who are loved characters from the original TV series. In fact, she replaces almost the whole cast from the show.
- The Simpsons
- Parodied in the episode "Homer's Barbershop Quartet"; when Barney replaces Wiggum in the titular band, Wiggum spitefully organises a gang of fans to picket their next gig shouting "Wiggum forever! Barney never!" at the stage, while Wiggum watches with a smug smile on his face. Then Barney opens his mouth, reveals he can sing ten times better than Wiggum, and the chants immediately switch to "Barney forever! Wiggum never!" Wiggum ends up slinking out of the bar unnoticed. Like most of the episode, this parodies a similar situation The Beatles faced (specifically, when Ringo Starr replaced Pete Best).
- Also parodied in the infamous episode "The Principal and the Pauper" where Principal Skinner is revealed to be an impostor named Armin Tamzarian who assumed Skinner's identity when the latter was assumed dead. The real Skinner (voiced by Martin Sheen) takes Armin's place as principal while Armin leaves town. However, despite the real Skinner being a nice and reasonable fellow, the other Springfield citizens decide to kick him out of town (even his mother who preferred the doormat Armin to the independent Seymour) and get a judge to never speak of this again under penalty of torture because...they preferred the old Skinner.
- Happened to Marge's current German voice actress Anke Engelke - She took over after Marge's original voice Elisabeth Volkmann had passed away in 2006. There is no telling, however, what kind of backlash a new voice actor for Homer Simpson would be facing in case Norbert Gastell (age 82), who is almost universally beloved by German Simpsons fans, left the show.
- Within the Disney fandom, many fans of A Goofy Movie are not fond of Mona. Roxanne was Max's high-school sweetheart, the girl he strives to get with the entire movie. Come the sequel, she's nowhere to be found though that's due to the fact Max goes to college. The last time she was seen was in an episode of House of Mouse. Come Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas, he's exiting college and has a new girlfriend, Mona. Mona comes off as a Replacement Scrappy, though almost ten in-series years has passed since A Goofy Movie.
- The Total Drama fandom went through this phase with the announcement of the fourth season and the fact that there would be an entirely new cast replacing the old one, and needless to say, it did NOT going well for fans of the original cast.
- Pick a generation of My Little Pony. Expect the main protagonists of future generations to be this to that gen. Noticeable examples tend to be Firefly vs Rainbow Dash and Surprise vs Pinkie, since the latter ponies are heavily based on those ponies.
- In Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, Fasttrack seems to be somewhat disliked among the fanbase, due to his powers and coloration seeming very similar to that of fan-loved alien XLR8, with the only difference being his species. Word of God's claims that he's faster and stronger have provoked a few favoritism accusations.
- When Transformers: Beast Wars started airing, this was at the exact magnetic center of much of the controversy, better known as Trukk not munky.
- Before that, there was Rodimus Prime, formerly Hot Rod, who took over as leader after Optimus died in The Movie. Rodimus was not only not accepted because he wasn't Optimus, was partly responsible for the death of his predecessor and sometimes insecure over his leadership abilities, when he wasn't also being sharply sarcastic. However, Rodimus Prime also has a share of fans who like him better than Optimus, for the very same qualities he's hated for. To a lesser degree the rest of the 1986 Transformers cast brought in after the movie suffered from this, as many of the beloved older characters had been killed off to sell toys or just weren't shown anymore.
- Rodimus did however, notably have a big Jerkass moment in one episode where unable to free an alien planet from the Decepticons, he instead choose to blow it up, and then commented Cybertron would be a better for "not being so perfect" after one of the other Autobots lamenting the fact they just depraved an entire alien species of their home.
- Hell, Transformers in general suffers from this, as every new series, new character, new toy, and so on inevitably gets compared to GEEWUN. The Classics and Universe lines have taken it to whole new levels, with Astrotrain and Powerglide's color schemes receiving Replacement Scrappy status.
- Though with the color schemes, it's a bit more justified: the Classics figures are of the G1 characters (the G1 Dreamwave Comics series was underway) with today's toy technology - in the 80s, "transformation" sometimes meant "stand it on its side," and a lot of characters didn't look like their toys, to the point where you simply can't have your favorite in toy form; just some thing that turns into a vehicle that's vaguely similar if you squint. The fandom then heard that all their favorites were getting more accurate and poseable and generally awesomer figures... and then they see that they've been given "improved" color schemes that brought them right back down to "I can't have Powerglide, just something that turns into a similar vehicle." See Twilight Sparkle above. However, almost all of those figures have since had show-accurate repaints.
- Speaking of Beast Wars, Beast Machines developed Optimus Primal into some sort of religious leader, while Cheetor stepped up into his place as a Supporting Leader. The new writers introduced Nightscream to fill in Cheetor's old role as the kid. Unfortunately, Cheetor was designed to grow from a annoying and kinda dumb newbie to a capable fighter and leader, while Nightscream was just annoying and kinda dumb.
- Transformers Animated, despite the usual reaction it got from the Unpleasable Fanbase, quickly became a fan favorite - and then, it was swiftly canceled - toyline and all - for a very... polarizing movie, and the next series was already catching some flak just based on the preview images for being extremely Movie-based. Needless to say, Animated fans were not pleased. After more designs and characters had been revealed, many of them very Animated-like, fans have begun to see Prime as some kind of copycat, an inferior, pandering substitute at best. However after the show had actually started airing, many fans changed their mind about the ordeal, calling Prime the best thing ever, especially those that hated Animated to begin with. But never mind that, even some (former) Animated fans were declaring its cancellation a good riddance!
- This is about par for the course with the Unpleasable Fanbase of Transformers. Every new series is the worst ever until you get used to it and see it for more than just the changes. That's when Hasbro, being Hasbro, pulls another reboot just as the series is spreading its wings (they prefer to overhaul the toyline every couple of years or so.) and the process repeats. And of course there are always those who consider it their religious duty to hate everything that isn't G1 just for not being G1.
- Princess Sally, Sonic's love interest in Sonic Sat AM, sometimes gets flack from some fans for supposedly being a "replacement" for the video games' Amy Rose - though this isn't exactly fair, seeing as the idea that Amy was a major character by the time of Sally's introduction is far from true. In fact, the American manual for Amy's debut, Sonic the Hedgehog CD, actually refers to Amy as Princess Sally in an effort to tie-in with the show, indicating that, for Americans, Princess Sally preceded (or at least appeared around the same time as) Amy Rose.
- While not a character example, try finding any fan of Recess who didn't hate Myles Jeffrey's portrayal as T.J. in Recess: Taking the Fifth Grade and Recess: All Growed Down, the two Direct-to-Video movies released in 2003 after the show ended. Due to T.J.'s previous voice actor, Andrew Lawrence, going through puberty in-between the time the last episode was produced and the time the two DTV movies were produced, he was replaced with Myles Jeffrey, who gets tons of flack from almost the entirety of the fanbase due to his portrayal of T.J. having a much higher voice with less of the emotion Andrew Lawrence gave him. Some fans even find it frustrating as at the time (2002-2003), Disney did have some child voice actors who sounded enough like Andrew Lawrence's T.J. This trope was actually avoided when Andrew Lawrence replaced Ross Malinger as the voice of T.J. at the beginning of season two, due to Ross Malinger's voice breaking. Some fans even thought that Andrew Lawrence was an even better voice for T.J.. Also could be contributing to the fact that the second season is widely considered to be the point where the show grew the beard.
- Legends Of Chima is widely considered this by fans of Ninjago (Chima began the same year Ninjago is intended to end) and the 2011 version of ThunderCats (the main character of Chima is pretty much Lion-O in LEGO form, even though the similarities end there). It's gotten to the point where the art director for ThunderCats 2011 thinks that Chima is a ThunderCats knock-off.
- Poor Roy's fate in Winx Club was sealed from the moment the fandom's infamous Nabu fangirls first discovered his existence, thinking it would ruin any chance of the latter just hiding. It still has yet to be confirmed.
- Family Guy made the decision to kill Brian to bring in the character of Vinny. They shouldn't have, because within hours of the episode's airing angry fans reacted exactly how one would expect them to. (It doesn't really help that Vinny is an Italian-American stereotype, either.) Turns out it didn’t stick.
- Ultimate Spider-Man is seen as this for The Spectacular Spiderman by many. Even though Spectacular's fate was sealed, Ultimate gets a lot of flak for being Denser and Wackier, with the drama and dark tone replaced with slapstick and fourth wall jokes, and not being faithful to any existing version of Spider-Man.
- Sanjay and Craig is considered this by fans of the Short-Lived and Obscure Robot and Monster. Doesn't help that Dave Pressler (one of Robot and Monster’s creators) mentioned once that he actually likes Sanjay and Craig.
- Thomas the Tank Engine: Emily was considered to be this by some fans for a while, the need for a prominent female character leading her to take the role of eighth Steam Team member, which left Duck Demoted to Extra. Some fans also considered her introduction pointless due to the existence of Daisy and Mavis, two female characters who were popular with the fans, were well-developed and had interesting personalities. Especially telling is that while Emily was promoted to main cast in Season 8, there was no effort made to make the other female characters (not even the coaches) more prominent, thus defeating the intention to be politically correct. She ended up being a fairly popular, or at least tolerable, character once most of the fanbase warmed up to her. The "Emily replaced Duck!" issue was acknowledged in a rather cruel light in Season 18's "Duck and the Slip Coaches", where Emily comes to the sheds twice and finds them full due to Duck taking residence for those nights. These scenes alone caused quite a ruckus.
- One of the reasons Heather Mills is so hated by Paul McCartney fans is that she and Paul got married very shortly after the death of Paul's long-time spouse, Linda Eastman.
- Way back in the late 1960s, there were people who hated the Lovely Linda because she wasn't a classy Brit like Jane Asher, Paul's previous significant other. It took decades for fandom to learn her good points.
- Ringo was a Replacement Scrappy himself in the old days. Check the entry under Music.
- Tiberius was never really able to rise above Augustus' shadow. The public grew to hate him in large part for not being Augustus, which would be a tough act to follow for anyone. Later Roman Emperors got compared to Augustus, and later, Trajan, usually unfavorably.
- Partially inverted in the case of the Nervan-Antonian dynasty, where several Emperors adopted their right-hands as sons and heirs based on their capacity to get the work well-done (yes, some of these emperors had no children, but still). Nerva and Trajan, Trajan and Hadrian, etc. Incidentally, the Nervan-Antonins were among the best Roman emperors ever (with the exception of Aurelius's son Commodus, but even he wasn't as horrendous as Gladiator says).
- That was the main problem with the Roman Empire, namely that the first Roman Emperor never really put in a way for his successor to be named. It got really weird when the emperor's own Praetorian Guard strangled him at one point and sold his throne off to the highest bidder.
- Nobody was asking for this like Julian the Apostate, though. After Constantine brought in Christianity as the official religion (a very popular move), Julian tried to reintroduce the Olympian pantheon of Jupiter and company. It went very poorly, and Julian was quite possibly killed by his own soldiers in battle.
- The American Presidency is an especially apt example of this (could be the Trope Namer for this and/or Suspiciously Similar Substitute). Many Presidents are judged less on their policies and more on comparisons to their predecessors. George W. Bush is seen by some as a Replacement Scrappy to his immediate predecessor, Bill Clinton. Barack Obama is considered a replacement scrappy to Bush by some, and his successor will no doubt be considered this, too. Every President is seen as a Replacement Scrappy by some. Every president is seen as The Scrappy by some.
- A variant on this is that presidents are often accused by their detractors of choosing a particularly useless man to be their vice-president as "impeachment insurance" - the president being less likely to be impeached and removed from office if his designated successor is manifestly unfit for the job. (Of recent vice-presidents, Dan Quayle and Joe Biden are most likely to be described this way - both men made a series of gaffes that allowed their political opponents to lampoon them as mentally challenged.)
- Some of the most notable examples are when the next President is from the same party but is not as successful as his predecessor. John Adams was nowhere near as popular as George Washington, Martin Van Buren spent most of his presidency getting criticized for not being Andrew Jackson, William Howard Taft followed Theodore Roosevelt and couldn't live up to that reputation, and George H.W. Bush just wasn't as successful at leading the Republican Party as Ronald Reagan.
- Andrew Johnson is the preeminent example in American politics. Coming after Abe friggin' Lincoln stacked the deck against him from the start, but the blatant racism can't have helped - he tried to interfere with the passing of the Fourteenth Amendment, and was basically cool with black codes. He's one of the first Presidents to have his veto power overridden by Congress, and the first to be impeached. He also holds one of the shorter Presidential reigns, marking one of the few Real Life instances of Shoo Out the New Guy. Most Presidential rankings have Abraham Lincoln in the top three, while Johnson counts himself lucky to avoid the bottom of James Buchanan and Warren Harding.
- Not unusual. Whether inheriting a position, appointed or elected to it, heads of state and government are always compared to their predecessors. Typically unfavorably. Even from people not even living in the same state as the individuals compared. Both Aeschylus and Herodotus unfavorably compare Xerxes I to his father Darius I, for example. It helps that people tend to forget or
- Herodotus was from Halicarnassus, which was part of the Persian Empire, though.
- This ended up launching the rise to prominence of one of baseball's more disliked broadcasters in Tim McCarver, who was added to ABC's coverage of the 1985 World Series at the last minute as a result of ABC Sports management becoming angered at main analyst Howard Cosell's controversial 1985 book, "I Never Played the Game". This would lead to his becoming a lead analyst not only on ABC, but later CBS and currently on FOX opposite fellow Hatedom recipient Joe Buck.
- Buck received his Hatedom mainly for replacing Pat Summerall on the football side. John Madden's replacement, Troy Aikman, seems to have avoided it.
- That, and the fact that many fans tended to be of the opinion that Joe rode the coat-tails of his father, legendary broadcaster Jack Buck.
- To be fair to Buck, though, there's some Hate Dumb in here, too:
- Part of the reason for the hate he gets is because people believe he rarely puts any emotion into his calls. That was true up until a point during the middle of the 2000's. Then we probably realized that he's not a screamer like Gus Johnson is, and he does get excited (you do hear it many times), but he's not raising his voice to screaming levels. It's probably because of his role as the lead FOX announcer that gives him the reason (Jim Nantz of CBS had the same kind of hate). People seem to think getting excited about a play means you have to scream every word, which not every single announcer does.
- The guy he replaced, Pat Summerall, was known for never raising his voice, and being a cool, calm, and collected announcer. He was even praised for NOT being that overly excited announcer. He was also a legend. Imagine trying to replace him! Imagine having to be the guy TO replace him! Imagine having to think you have to be Summerall, and thus call games the same way, to not get that Hatedom.
- Buck seemed to be Rescued from the Scrappy Heap for his call of the 2013 ACLS grand slam by Ortiz where he did scream out "TIE GAME!" Or so you would think by some people, but the guy can't catch a break from others because people think he favors certain teams in his calls. Now you see why the Hate Dumb exist. To be fair, though, many have acknowledged the added emotion Joe put into that call (and many other recent calls he's made) as a positive. note
- Many plays and musicals over the decades have suffered for a performer originating a role doing it so well that all the performers who play the role afterwards (on the professional and amateur levels) wind up being compared, usually negatively, to the originator. For example, go see a production of A Streetcar Named Desire pay attention to the actor playing Stanley, and see if you aren't considering him a lukewarm knockoff of Marlon Brando. The stage adaptation of The Producers added a joke to acknowledge this during Max's climactic number "Betrayed" — during the "intermission", the actor takes out the program and, going over the cast list, notes "Oh, he's good. He's no Nathan [Lane], but he's good."
- New Coke.
- In some European countries Coca Cola's Coke Zero replaced Coca Cola Light to the dismay of some Coke drinkers.
- Light did make a return in most stores.
- Those who enjoy using Microsoft Sam, the text-to-speech generator on Windows 2000 and Windows XP, usually DESPISE Microsoft Anna, his replacement for Windows Vista and Windows 7.
- Also, many of those who did enjoy using Microsoft Anna were quite angry when she was replaced in Windows 8 with Microsoft David, Microsoft Hazel, and Microsoft Zira.
- The newest Nickelodeon logo. One thing that was constant from 1984 to 2009 was the orange splat that could form into many different logos, that was still a point of interest, even after someone's favorite show ended or got cancelled. And then we went from this to this. The fact that this new logo was introduced with the beginning of Fanboy and Chum Chum has done little to appeal to veteran fans.
- For many a Rail Enthusiast, diesels and buses are the Replacement Scrappies for the steam engine. Buses for closing many branch lines, and diesels for sending thousands of steam engines to the scrapyard. Part of it comes from a Nostalgia Filter for the Age of Steam, idealized as an age of heroism, innovation, and beauty. See Thomas the Tank Engine or read The Railway Series for an exploration of this attitude.
- Most modern diesel locomotives can be seen as Replacement Scrappies to fans of older locomotive models. This is common among American railroad enthusiasts. Examples include the GE "GEVO" series of locomotives and the EMD SD70ACE for replacing earlier EMD locomotives like the GP7/9 and SD40.
- Air travel can be seen as this for causing many passenger railroad carriers to go bankrupt and shut down in the 60s and 70s as well as (despite being faster) being a lot less comfortable and sophisticated way to travel.
- Anytime a North American railroad is bought-out or merged there will be fans of the predecessor railroad that dislike the successor. One of the biggest examples would be the Conrail fans who are still bitter at CSX Transportation and the Norfolk Southern Railway for buying them out in 1999.
- Cracked's "6 Formerly Kickass Creatures Ruined By Evolution"
- Since the early '90s many famous and historic resorts in Las Vegas have been closed down and demolished and are usually replaced by bigger, fancier, and more modern resorts. Some of these new resorts are seen as Replacement Scrappies by fans of the resorts they replaced.
- Pope Benedict XVI got hit with this hard following the death of the much-loved Pope John Paul II. It didn't help that he'd been in the Hitler Youth (mandatory in Germany at the time) or that his reign coincided with the revelation of widespread sexual abuse by priests. Benedict's successor, Pope Francis I, gets the exact opposite reaction for being very much unlike the unpopular Benedict.
- When Jon left Game Grumps and Danny of Ninja Sex Party took his place, he got hit with this reaction by half the fanbase (the others accepting him and trying to calm the angry half down).
- And then on the same channel is Steam Train, starring Danny and RubberRoss, which started the same day that Jon left. Ross stated that the show had nothing to do with Jon's departure and the timing was unfortunate.
- King John of England. First English king to go to the trouble of learning to speak English (at the time, considered a language for peasants and the lower gentry – all previous kings since the Norman Invasion spoke only medieval French); he started what eventually became the Royal Navy; and his death caused no succession crisis because he gave issue (Henry III). But he lost control of England's territories in France and, unlike his brother and predecessor Richard I ("The Lionheart"), he never went on Crusade, so these days poor John is best remembered as the Arch-Enemy to Robin Hood.
- James VI of Scotland got some of this in 1603 when he also became James I of England, taking over from the much-beloved (and long-reigning) Queen Elizabeth I. It didn't help that prior to his succession he was a complete unknown in England, and his low-budget coronation did little for his reputation. The xenophobic reaction for being a Scotsman didn't help. Shakespeare's Measure for Measure – in which a Viennese duke goes undercover to see what his people really think of him – has been read as a reaction to this unease about the reclusive king.
- Louis XIV of France was a powerful monarch who centralised France and was arguably the perfect example of an absolute monarch. His successor, Louis XV, was never as respected, but lived off his predecessor's success. Then came Louis XVI...
- The accession of Napoleon III to the throne of France in 1852 was hailed by many as a triumphant return to the glory days of his uncle Napoleon I. It wasn't.