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27th Jan '17 11:39:44 AM thecarolinabull01
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* Another voice actor example in ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'': Arnold had four voice actors throughout the series (five if you count the pilot episode), but his final voice actor, Alex D. Linz is near-universally disliked by the fandom for two reasons. One, Linz's voice was higher-pitched than the previous actors making Arnold sound too young. Two, he replaced Spencer Klein, who most fans consider to be ''the'' Arnold despite the fact that Klein was the third person to voice him (though he lasted the longest and unlike his predecessors did not portray any other character after his voice broke). Linz only voices Arnold in the last three episodes, however.
24th Jan '17 10:12:49 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* This concept might go a long way in explaining ''why'' Xavier is the least celebrated of the men to have held the Wrestling/RingOfHonor Championship belt. The first champion Wrestling/LowKi was naturally a contender for the most popular man in the promotion but his title reign was over almost as soon as it got started, in favor of a man with a superficially similar wrestling style but lacking Low Ki's distinctive look, aggression, intensity and BadAssBaritone on top of being a DirtyCoward.

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* This concept might go a long way in explaining ''why'' Xavier is the least celebrated of the men to have held the Wrestling/RingOfHonor Championship belt. The first champion Wrestling/LowKi was naturally a contender for the most popular man in the promotion but his title reign was over almost as soon as it got started, in favor of a man with a superficially similar wrestling style but lacking Low Ki's distinctive look, aggression, intensity and BadAssBaritone on top of being a DirtyCoward.DirtyCoward instead of a SpiritedCompetitor ChallengeSeeker.
24th Jan '17 10:09:03 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* In their unexplained release of Daniel Puder, a proven, respected participant the popular combat sport called UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts, WWE doomed Wrestling/TheMiz, the runner up to the Wrestling/WWEToughEnough contest that Puder won by fan vote, to this status. It didn't help that Miz talked about having to overcome the stigma of not coming from something like MMA during his early years in the wrestling industry, which only drew more minds to Puder and the program with Wrestling/KurtAngle that WWE thoughtlessly threw away.

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* In their unexplained release of Daniel Puder, a proven, respected participant of the popular combat sport called UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts, WWE doomed Wrestling/TheMiz, the runner up to the Wrestling/WWEToughEnough contest that Puder won by fan vote, to this status. It didn't help that Miz talked about having to overcome the stigma of not coming from something like MMA during his early years in the wrestling industry, which only drew more minds to Puder and the program with Wrestling/KurtAngle that WWE thoughtlessly threw away.
24th Jan '17 2:53:45 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** A variant involving gameplay elements. The Free Spin token had been associated with ''Wheel'' since the pilots, offering an ExtraTurn to a contestant to use at their leisure. Then in Fall 2009, the Free Spin was replaced by the Free Play wedge which [[ButThouMust forces the Extra Turn the moment it is landed on]]. Contestants can also use the Free Play to call a free vowel (which could not be done with the Free Spin) and fans [[GenreSavvy have noticed]] how often the wedge is [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome exploited as such]].

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** A variant involving gameplay elements. The Free Spin token had been associated with ''Wheel'' since the pilots, offering an ExtraTurn to a contestant to use at their leisure. Then in Fall 2009, the Free Spin was replaced by the Free Play wedge which [[ButThouMust forces the Extra Turn the moment it is landed on]]. Contestants can also use the Free Play to call a free vowel (which could not be done with the Free Spin) and fans [[GenreSavvy have noticed]] noticed how often the wedge is [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome exploited as such]].
17th Jan '17 1:59:47 PM Xtifr
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** The official talking [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess Celestia]] doll is effectively a replacement scrappy for the actual character. Not only has [[WordOfGod Hasbro admitted that]] they made her [[ShowAccuracyToyAccuracy pink instead of white]] [[ExecutiveMeddling because apparently]] [[PanderingToTheBase pink ponies sell better to girls]] (and making it worse, there's a picture of the actual, white character on the toy's box art), but they replaced [[NicoleOliver her TV show voice actress]] and her original [[TheMentor wise personality]] with [[InNameOnly a bunch of vacuous, vain phrases]] [[TheOtherDarrin spouted by another actor who sounds more like a]] ValleyGirl than a princess.

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** The official talking [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess Celestia]] doll is effectively a replacement scrappy for the actual character. Not only has [[WordOfGod Hasbro admitted that]] they made her [[ShowAccuracyToyAccuracy pink instead of white]] [[ExecutiveMeddling because apparently]] [[PanderingToTheBase pink ponies sell better to girls]] (and making it worse, there's a picture of the actual, white character on the toy's box art), but they replaced [[NicoleOliver [[Creator/NicoleOliver her TV show voice actress]] and her original [[TheMentor wise personality]] with [[InNameOnly a bunch of vacuous, vain phrases]] [[TheOtherDarrin spouted by another actor who sounds more like a]] ValleyGirl than a princess.
14th Jan '17 9:03:17 PM KoopaKid17
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** Towards the end of Season 12 in 1995, Harry Friedman replaced Nancy Jones as producer. While the show's updates were consistent under Jones' tenure, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Friedman made many]] [[ComplexityAddiction unpopular changes]] [[WereStillRelevantDammit to keep it fresh]] [[SeasonalRot starting in Season 14]]. Among his "contributions" were a single wheel template in use since 1996, Toss-Up puzzles in 2000, Prize Puzzles in 2003, and a $1,000,000 cash prize in 2008. In 2013, it was confirmed that he approves every puzzle that makes it onto the show and fans call him out for approving such low-quality puzzles, the Prize Puzzle in particular.

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** Towards the end of Season 12 in 1995, Harry Friedman replaced Nancy Jones as producer. While the show's updates were consistent under Jones' tenure, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Friedman made many]] [[ComplexityAddiction unpopular changes]] [[WereStillRelevantDammit to keep it fresh]] [[SeasonalRot starting in Season 14]]. Among his "contributions" were a single wheel template in use since 1996, Toss-Up puzzles and the retirement of Creator/MervGriffin's music packages in 2000, Prize Puzzles in 2003, and a $1,000,000 cash prize in 2008. In 2013, it was confirmed that he approves every puzzle that makes it onto the show and fans call him out for approving such low-quality puzzles, the Prize Puzzle in particular.
8th Jan '17 6:19:27 PM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/LegendsOfChima'' is widely considered this by fans of ''Franchise/{{Ninjago}}'' (''Chima'' began the same year ''Ninjago'' was originally intended to end) and the 2011 version of ''WesternAnimation/{{ThunderCats|2011}}'' (the main character of ''Chima'' is Lion-O in LEGO form, even though the similarities end there). It's gotten to the point where the art director for ''[=ThunderCats=] 2011'' thinks that ''Chima'' is a ''[=ThunderCats=]'' knock-off.

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* ''Franchise/LegendsOfChima'' ''WesternAnimation/LegendsOfChima'' is widely considered this by fans of ''Franchise/{{Ninjago}}'' (''Chima'' began the same year ''Ninjago'' was originally intended to end) and the 2011 version of ''WesternAnimation/{{ThunderCats|2011}}'' (the main character of ''Chima'' is Lion-O in LEGO form, even though the similarities end there). It's gotten to the point where the art director for ''[=ThunderCats=] 2011'' thinks that ''Chima'' is a ''[=ThunderCats=]'' knock-off.
5th Jan '17 9:43:01 PM Twentington
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* When brothers Ricky Lee and Doug Phelps (then the lead singer and bassist respectively) left The Kentucky Headhunters in 1992 to form Brother Phelps, they were respectively replaced by Mark S. Orr and Anthony Kenney. (Kenney had previously played in an earlier incarnation of the band.) Orr was hated by fans, critics, and even rhythm guitarist Richard Young for having a more scratchy delivery better suited for blues or R&B than for twangy Southern rock. After doing only two albums (one a collaboration with blues pianist Johnnie Johnson) and a cover of Music/TheBeatles' "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" for a tribute album, Orr quit in 1995 over CreativeDifferences. Young asked Doug to rejoin, so he broke up Brother Phelps and took his brother's former role as lead singer. Doug is an aversion, as his vocal style is very similar to that of his brother (and, after Kenney quit in 2008, Doug is once again bassist as well).

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* When brothers Ricky Lee and Doug Phelps (then the lead singer and bassist respectively) left The Kentucky Headhunters in 1992 to form Brother Phelps, they their respective roles as lead singer and bassist were respectively replaced taken over by Mark S. Orr and Anthony Kenney. (Kenney had previously played in an earlier incarnation of the band.band in TheSeventies.) Orr was hated by fans, critics, and even rhythm guitarist Richard Young for having a more scratchy delivery better suited for blues or R&B than for twangy Southern rock. After doing only two albums (one a collaboration with blues pianist Johnnie Johnson) and a cover of Music/TheBeatles' "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" for a tribute album, Orr quit in 1995 over CreativeDifferences. Young asked Doug to rejoin, so he broke up Brother Phelps and took his brother's former role as lead singer. Doug is an aversion, as his vocal style is very similar to that of his brother (and, after Kenney quit in 2008, Doug is once again bassist as well).
5th Jan '17 9:40:39 PM Twentington
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** And it happened again with the 1986-88 revival, helmed by John Davidson. Many felt that the celebrity panel got too unruly, and that Davidson was unable to calm them down. Also, you'd think after being told thirty or forty times, he'd at least remember how to handle a "cat's game" without the producer screaming at him in his IFB…
* Davidson struck again on ''[[Series/{{Pyramid}} The $100,000 Pyramid]]''. When the show returned from a three-year hiatus in 1991, original host Creator/DickClark was busy with ''Series/TheChallengers'', so Davidson took over. As on ''Squares'', Davidson frequently tripped over the rules and rarely felt as if he were in control.

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** And it happened again with the 1986-88 revival, helmed by John Davidson. Many felt that the celebrity panel got too unruly, and that Davidson was unable to calm them down. Also, you'd think after being told thirty or forty times, he'd at least remember how to handle a "cat's game" without game"...[[note]]The contestant has to agree/disagree correctly, and unlike all other squares, their opponent cannot claim the producer screaming at him in his IFB…
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square by merit of the contestant agreeing/disagreeing incorrectly; if the latter happens, then the square is played again on ''[[Series/{{Pyramid}} The $100,000 Pyramid]]''. until someone claims it.[[/note]]
* Another game show with two examples is the ''Series/{{Pyramid}}'' franchise:
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When the show returned from a three-year hiatus in 1991, original host Creator/DickClark was busy with ''Series/TheChallengers'', so John Davidson took over. over there as well. As on ''Squares'', Davidson frequently tripped over the rules (many episodes have the offstage staff shouting at him when he messed up) and rarely felt as if he were in control.



* ''Series/FamilyFeud'':

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* Nearly any host of ''Series/FamilyFeud'':



** The 1999 revival originally went to comedian Louie Anderson. He was heavily panned for his weight, gravelly monotone voice, and supposedly bored demeanor (the last of which was even mocked by ''Series/MadTV''). After he left in 2002, a pattern began where each successive host was considered an improvement at first glance, but then the cracks began to show:
** Richard Karn (2002-06) was initially given a pass because, despite his obvious inexperience, he seemed to be the total opposite of Anderson in terms of interest and enthusiasm in the role. However, it quickly became noticeable that Karn was very poor at ad-libbing, to the point that he gained MemeticMutation for constantly [[NoIndoorVoice shouting]] the exact same {{catch phrase}}s OnceAnEpisode ("[[LargeHam I'M DOUBLING THE POINTS!]]").

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** The 1999 revival begun in 1999 originally went to comedian Louie Anderson. He was heavily panned for his weight, gravelly monotone voice, and supposedly bored demeanor (the last of which was even mocked by ''Series/MadTV''). After he left in 2002, a pattern began where each successive host was considered an improvement at first glance, but then the cracks began to show:
** Richard Karn (2002-06) was initially given a pass because, despite his obvious inexperience, he seemed to be the total opposite of Anderson in terms of interest and show as much enthusiasm and interest in the role.proceedings as Anderson lacked. However, it quickly became noticeable that Karn was very poor at ad-libbing, to the point that he gained MemeticMutation for constantly [[NoIndoorVoice shouting]] the exact same {{catch phrase}}s OnceAnEpisode ("[[LargeHam I'M DOUBLING THE POINTS!]]").



** Even Steve Harvey (2010-) who has brought the show its highest ratings in years isn't immune. Harvey instantly gained fans due to his LargeHam reactions to stupid answers, which (as in the prior incarnations) were usually organic, off-the-cuff reactions. However, the producers decided to try enforcing Harvey's {{Wild Take}}s as often as possible, leading to a more sophomoric level of question-writing that baited contestants into giving lurid answers.

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** Even Steve Harvey (2010-) (2010-), who has brought the show its highest ratings in years years, isn't immune. Harvey instantly gained fans due to his LargeHam reactions to stupid answers, which (as in the prior incarnations) were usually organic, off-the-cuff reactions. However, the producers decided to try enforcing Harvey's {{Wild Take}}s as often as possible, leading to a more sophomoric level of question-writing that baited contestants into giving lurid answers.



** This can also apply to the announcer's booth. After Johnny Olson's 1985 death, Rod Roddy's 2003 death, and Rich Fields' 2010 departure, the show tried out various guest announcers on-air before determining the successor. The substitutes are all victims of Replacement Scrappydom to some extent, but some of the more prominent ones include:

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** This can also apply to the announcer's booth. After Johnny Olson's 1985 death, Rod Roddy's 2003 death, and Rich Fields' 2010 departure, the show tried out various guest announcers on-air before determining the successor. The substitutes (with the possible exception of Randy West) are all victims of Replacement Scrappydom to some extent, but some of the more prominent ones include:



*** Among those who filled in after Rod's death, Daniel Rosen was universally ''hated'' for a serious lack of enthusiasm and general sloppiness. One episode has him completely deadpan the intro to Punch-a-Bunch, at least two sources verify that Rosen had to redo a few prize descriptions in post because no one could hear him, and one episode opens to him clearly saying "uh" before the OpeningNarration. Fans also noted that Rosen seemed to be imitating Rod at times by wearing loud clothing and drawing out his name when signing off. He also supposedly {{astro turf}}ed fan forum Golden-Road.net with about 50 sockpuppets praising his own performance. However, he must have gotten better, as he is one of the rotating announcers for ''The Price Is Right Live!'', a live production which puts on mock games of ''Price'' in casinos.

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*** Among those who filled in after Rod's death, Daniel Rosen was universally ''hated'' for a serious lack of enthusiasm and general sloppiness. One episode has him completely deadpan the intro to Punch-a-Bunch, at least two sources verify that Rosen Punch-a-Bunch; he reportedly had to redo a few prize descriptions in post copy at least twice because no one in-studio could hear him, him; and one episode opens to him clearly saying "uh" before the OpeningNarration. Fans also noted that Rosen seemed to be imitating Rod at times by wearing loud clothing and drawing out his name when signing off. He also supposedly {{astro turf}}ed fan forum Golden-Road.net with about 50 sockpuppets praising his own performance. However, he must have gotten better, as he is one of the rotating announcers for ''The Price Is Right Live!'', a live production which puts on mock games of ''Price'' in casinos.



*** After Rich was fired, six more substitutes rotated until George Gray became the successor. Among the substitutes, Steve White and Brad Sherwood were hated for their fake enthusiasm (and White even more so for his inane nicknames for Drew), while former ''Series/ShopTilYouDrop'' host JD Roberto was seen as SoOkayItsAverage but lost points for insulting a contestant (although he later got to announce the 2012 revival of ''Series/{{Pyramid}}'').
** Bart Eskander, the show's director from 2000-2009 (and the show's third director after Marc Breslow and Paul Alter), was hated by most of the fanbase for his oversimplified and stiff style.

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*** After Rich was fired, six more substitutes rotated until George Gray became the successor. Among the substitutes, Steve White and Brad Sherwood were hated for their fake enthusiasm (and White even more so for his inane nicknames for Drew), giving Drew silly nicknames), while former ''Series/ShopTilYouDrop'' host JD Roberto was seen as SoOkayItsAverage but lost points for insulting a contestant (although he later got to announce the 2012 revival of ''Series/{{Pyramid}}'').
** Bart Eskander, the show's director from 2000-2009 (and the show's third director after Marc Breslow and Paul Alter), was hated by most of the fanbase for his oversimplified and stiff style.



* ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' had this happen a couple times:

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* ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' had this happen a couple few times:



** After [[TheAnnouncer announcer]] Jack Clark died of cancer in 1988, he was replaced by Los Angeles deejay M.G. Kelly. Kelly is generally hated by the fanbase for being way too mellow. Pat also pointed out in an interview that Kelly frequently had to re-do his copy in post because he kept making mistakes. Kelly left the show in February 1989 when Clark's predecessor, Charlie O'Donnell, returned.

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** After [[TheAnnouncer announcer]] Jack Clark died of bone cancer in 1988, he was replaced by Los Angeles deejay M.G. Kelly. Kelly is generally hated by the fanbase for being way too mellow. Pat also pointed out in an interview that Kelly frequently had to re-do redo his copy in post because he kept making mistakes. Kelly left the show in February 1989 when Clark's predecessor, Charlie O'Donnell, returned.



** A variant involving game play elements. The Free Spin token had been associated with ''Wheel'' since the pilots, offering an ExtraTurn to a contestant to use at their leisure. Then in Fall 2009, the Free Spin was replaced by the Free Play wedge which [[ButThouMust forces the Extra Turn the moment it is landed on]]. Contestants can also use the Free Play to call a free vowel (which could not be done with the Free Spin) and fans [[GenreSavvy have noticed]] how often the wedge is [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome exploited as such]].

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** A variant involving game play gameplay elements. The Free Spin token had been associated with ''Wheel'' since the pilots, offering an ExtraTurn to a contestant to use at their leisure. Then in Fall 2009, the Free Spin was replaced by the Free Play wedge which [[ButThouMust forces the Extra Turn the moment it is landed on]]. Contestants can also use the Free Play to call a free vowel (which could not be done with the Free Spin) and fans [[GenreSavvy have noticed]] how often the wedge is [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome exploited as such]].



* An inversion. Scott Beach was the first announcer on ''Series/TheNewlywedGame'', but was kicked out because he would sing war protest songs to the audience during commercial breaks. He was replaced by Johnny Jacobs, who was anything but a Scrappy — he held his ''Newlywed'' role alone for 14 years and later went on to become a prolific announcer (besides many other shows by ''Newlywed'' creator Creator/ChuckBarris, he also handled ''Series/TheJokersWild'' and ''Series/TicTacDough'') until his 1980 death.

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* An inversion. Scott Beach was the first announcer on ''Series/TheNewlywedGame'', but was kicked out supposedly because he would sing war protest songs to the audience during commercial breaks. He was replaced by Johnny Jacobs, who was anything but a Scrappy — he held his ''Newlywed'' role alone for 14 years and later went on to become a prolific announcer (besides many other shows by ''Newlywed'' creator Creator/ChuckBarris, he also handled ''Series/TheJokersWild'' and ''Series/TicTacDough'') until his 1980 death.



* Starting with his 2014 album ''Man Against Machine'', Music/GarthBrooks retired longtime RecordProducer Allen Reynolds in favor of being produced by Mark Miller (who was the sound engineer on all of Garth's albums, and is ''not'' the same person as the lead singer of Sawyer Brown). Many fans have noticed that Miller's production is very light and muffled, with tinny sounding vocals. "People Loving People" and "Baby, Let's Lay Down and Dance" in particular have been criticized as sounding more like demos recorded on someone's phone.

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* Starting with his 2014 album ''Man Against Machine'', Music/GarthBrooks retired Music/GarthBrooks' longtime RecordProducer Allen Reynolds in favor of being produced by Mark Miller (who was the had retired, so Brooks' sound engineer on all of Garth's albums, and is ''not'' the same person as Mark Miller (not the lead singer of Sawyer Brown).Brown) took over the producer's chair. Many fans have noticed that Miller's production is very light and muffled, with tinny sounding vocals. "People Loving People" and "Baby, Let's Lay Down and Dance" in particular have been criticized as sounding more like demos recorded on someone's phone.
5th Jan '17 9:13:04 PM Twentington
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* Wink Martindale left ''Series/TicTacDough'' in 1985 to host his own creation, ''Series/HeadlineChasers''. Taking his place for the final season was PM Magazine's Jim Caldwell. While the show remained the same outside of a set change, Caldwell did not impress fans as host, and was often criticized for his robotic hosting and always saying that he would explain the rules of the special red-box categories "when we get to them." Although he did improve toward the end of the season (to the point that he got another hosting gig on ''Top Card'' later in the decade), the show's core fanbase had already left and were never coming back.

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* Two instances of this happened on ''Series/TicTacDough'':
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Wink Martindale left ''Series/TicTacDough'' in 1985 to host his own creation, ''Series/HeadlineChasers''. Taking his place for the final season was PM Magazine's Jim Caldwell. While the show remained the same outside of a set change, Caldwell did not impress fans as host, and was often criticized for his robotic hosting and always saying that he would explain the rules of the special red-box categories "when we get to them." Although he did improve toward the end of the season (to the point that he got another hosting gig on ''Top Card'' later in the decade), the show's core fanbase had already left and were never coming back.
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