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27th May '17 6:37:21 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Many fans of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' view [[SixthRanger Starlight Glimmer]] as an poorly done {{Expy}} to Sunset Shimmer, [[CanonForeigner who remains confined to the]] ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]]'' spin-off. Starlight committed far worse crimes than Sunset, but was even more EasilyForgiven than Sunset (lacking her BreakTheHaughty); being instantly forgiven by the town she enslaved, wasting the chance [[ReformedButRejected to put her through]] what [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap redeemed Sunset to the fandom]]. Reception to Starlight's redemption [[BaseBreakingCharacter have been mixed]], coming off as a ToughActToFollow at best.
27th May '17 6:29:22 PM EmojiFan1995
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* Many fans of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' view [[SixthRanger Starlight Glimmer]] as an poorly done {{Expy}} to Sunset Shimmer, [[CanonForeigner who remains confined to the]] ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]]'' spin-off. Starlight committed far worse crimes than Sunset, but was even more EasilyForgiven than Sunset (lacking her BreakTheHaughty); being instantly forgiven by the town she enslaved, wasting the chance [[ReformedButRejected to put her through]] what [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap redeemed Sunset to the fandom]]. Reception to Starlight's redemption [[BaseBreakingCharacter have been mixed]], coming off as a ToughActToFollow at best.
** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsLegendOfEverfree'': While a majority of the fandom disliked Flash Sentry in the Equestria Girls films due to being a SatelliteLoveInterest to Twilight, the fourth film introduces Timber Spruce who repeated his mistakes. And since Flash's popularity had been slowly rising over the years his supporters weren't happy that he was pushed to the background.

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* Many fans of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' view [[SixthRanger Starlight Glimmer]] as an poorly done {{Expy}} to Sunset Shimmer, [[CanonForeigner who remains confined to the]] ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]]'' spin-off. Starlight committed far worse crimes than Sunset, but was even more EasilyForgiven than Sunset (lacking her BreakTheHaughty); being instantly forgiven by the town she enslaved, wasting the chance [[ReformedButRejected to put her through]] what [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap redeemed Sunset to the fandom]]. Reception to Starlight's redemption [[BaseBreakingCharacter have been mixed]], coming off as a ToughActToFollow at best.
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''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsLegendOfEverfree'': While a majority of the fandom disliked Flash Sentry in the Equestria Girls films due to being a SatelliteLoveInterest to Twilight, the fourth film introduces Timber Spruce who repeated his mistakes. And since Flash's popularity had been slowly rising over the years his supporters weren't happy that he was pushed to the background.
26th May '17 3:43:57 AM Nohbody
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* One of the reasons Heather Mills is so hated by Music/PaulMcCartney fans is that she and Paul got married ''very'' shortly after the death of Paul's long-time spouse, Linda Eastman.
** Way back in the late 1960s, there were people who hated the Lovely Linda because she wasn't a classy Brit like [[{{Ojou}} Jane Asher]], Paul's previous significant other. It took decades for fandom to learn her good points.
** Ringo was a Replacement Scrappy himself in the old days. Check the entry under Music.
* [[UsefulNotes/TheRomanEmpire Tiberius]] was never really able to rise above Augustus' shadow. The public grew to hate him in large part for not being Augustus, which would be a tough act to follow for anyone. Later Roman Emperors got compared to Augustus, and later, Trajan, usually unfavorably.
** Partially inverted in the case of the Nervan-Antonian dynasty, where several Emperors adopted their right-hands as sons and heirs based ''on their capacity to get the work well-done'' (yes, some of these emperors had no children, but still). Nerva and Trajan, Trajan and Hadrian, etc. Incidentally, the Nervan-Antonins were among the best Roman emperors ''ever'' (with the exception of Aurelius's son Commodus, but even ''he'' [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade wasn't as horrendous]] as ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' says).
*** That was the main problem with the Roman Empire, namely that the first Roman Emperor never really put in a way for his successor to be named. It got ''really'' weird when the emperor's own Praetorian Guard strangled him at one point and sold his throne off to the highest bidder.
*** Nobody was asking for this like Julian the Apostate, though. After Constantine brought in Christianity as the official religion (a very popular move), Julian tried to reintroduce the Olympian pantheon of Jupiter and company. It went very poorly, and Julian was quite possibly killed by his own soldiers in battle.
** Herodotus was from Halicarnassus, which was part of the Persian Empire, though.
* This ended up launching the rise to prominence of one of baseball's [[{{Hatedom}} more disliked]] broadcasters in Tim [=McCarver=], who was added to ABC's coverage of the 1985 World Series at the last minute as a result of ABC Sports management becoming angered at main analyst [[Series/MondayNightFootball Howard Cosell's]] controversial 1985 book, "I Never Played the Game". This would lead to his becoming a lead analyst not only on ABC, but later CBS and currently on FOX opposite fellow {{Hatedom}} recipient Joe Buck.
** Buck received his Hatedom mainly for replacing Pat Summerall on the football side. John Madden's replacement, Troy Aikman, seems to have avoided it. That, and the fact that many fans tended to be of the opinion that Joe rode the coat-tails of his father, legendary broadcaster Jack Buck.
*** Part of the reason for the hate he gets is because people believe he rarely puts any emotion into his calls. That was true up until a point during the middle of the 2000's. Then we probably realized that he's not a screamer like Gus Johnson is, and he does get excited (you do hear it many times), but he's not raising his voice to screaming levels. It's probably because of his role as the lead FOX announcer that gives him the reason (Jim Nantz of CBS had the same kind of hate). People seem to think getting excited about a play means you have to scream every word, which not every single announcer does.
*** The guy he replaced, Pat Summerall, was known for never raising his voice, and being a cool, calm, and collected announcer. He was even praised for NOT being that overly excited announcer. He was also a legend. Imagine trying to replace him! Imagine having to be the guy TO replace him! Imagine having to think you have to be Summerall, and thus call games the same way, to not get that Hatedom.
*** Buck seemed to be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap for his call of the 2013 ACLS grand slam by Ortiz where he did scream out "TIE GAME!" Or so you would think by some people, but the guy can't catch a break from others because people think he favors certain teams in his calls. To be fair, though, many have acknowledged the added emotion Joe put into that call (and many other recent calls he's made) as a positive.[[note]] (Some would say he got the "Gus Effect", as THIS new Joe Buck didn't arise until Fox Sports hired Gus Johnson)[[/note]]
* Rick Rizzs and Bob Rathbun in their stint as radio broadcasters for the Detroit Tigers had the unenviable task of replacing much-beloved Hall-of-Famer Ernie Harwell and Paul Carey after the longtime duo were unceremoniously fired by Tigers owner Tom Monaghan in 1991. Rizzs and Rathbun were never truly accepted by Tiger fans, even after new owner Mike Ilitch brought Harwell back and teamed the three together. Though it wasn't so much an indictment on the talent of Rizzs and Rathbun as it was a severe backlash against Monaghan and his organization for firing Harwell, and it was their association with the previous ownership that doomed them to fail in Detroit. Rizzs would return to the Seattle Mariners were he remains as of 2016, while Rathbun would find his own success in Atlanta. Harwell got to retire from the Tigers on his own terms after the 2002 season.
** To a much lesser extent, Detroit Red Wings radio play-by-play man Ken Kal was on the receiving end when he first started with the team, replacing another Hall-of-Famer, the retiring Bruce Martyn. Kal, having previously performed to a smaller audience covering the University of Michigan hockey team, at first lacked the energy and enthusiasm of his predecessor. By his second season, Kal had found his voice, and was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap in time for the Red Wings' run to their first Stanley Cup championship in 42 years - a season that was capped off with [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Kal inviting Martyn back for the Cup-clinching fourth game]].
* Many plays and musicals over the decades have suffered for a performer originating a role doing it ''so'' well that all the performers who play the role afterwards (on the professional and amateur levels) wind up being compared, usually negatively, to the originator. For example, go see a production of ''Theatre/AStreetcarNamedDesire'', pay attention to the actor playing Stanley, and see if you aren't considering him a lukewarm knockoff of Marlon Brando. The stage adaptation of ''Film/TheProducers'' added a joke to acknowledge this during Max's climactic number "Betrayed" -- during the "intermission", the actor takes out the program and, going over the cast list, notes "Oh, he's good. He's no Nathan [Lane], but he's good."
* New Coke. Coca-Cola was at one time ''the'' dominant cola in the US, with a lot of regional "little guys" having respectable market share in their home turf, but nobody really challenging Coke for the nationwide market. However, by 1980 Pepsi-Cola in particular was challenging them nationwide. Taste tests showed that some people actually preferred the taste of Pepsi over Coke, so Coke decided to make their cola taste more like Pepsi. The problem was that Pepsi drinkers still preferred Pepsi to New Coke, and the core Coke drinkers didn't like the change, figuring for the most part that if they had wanted to drink something that tasted like Pepsi they would have bought a Pepsi in the first place. Coca-Cola pretty quickly brought back "Coke Classic" to satisfy their core market and, after a brief period of trying to market both "Coke Classic" and "New Coke", quietly phased out New Coke.
** In some European countries Coca Cola's Coke Zero replaced Coca Cola Light to the dismay of some Coke drinkers.
** Light did make a return in most stores.
* Those who enjoy using Microsoft Sam, the text-to-speech generator on Windows 2000 and Windows XP, usually DESPISE Microsoft Anna, his replacement for Windows Vista and Windows 7.
** Also, many of those who did enjoy using Microsoft Anna were quite angry when she was replaced in Windows 8 with Microsoft David, Microsoft Hazel, and Microsoft Zira.
* [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks The newest]] Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks logo]]. One thing that was constant from 1984 [[LongRunners to 2009]] was the orange splat that could form into many different logos, that was still a point of interest, even after someone's favorite show ended or got cancelled. And then we went from [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yBvZy6dHYs this]] to ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ5sQ-5MWng this]]''. The fact that this new logo was introduced with the beginning of ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum'' has done little to appeal to veteran fans.
* For many a RailEnthusiast, diesels and buses are the Replacement Scrappies for the steam engine. Buses for closing many branch lines, and diesels for sending thousands of steam engines to the scrapyard. Part of it comes from a NostalgiaFilter for the Age of Steam, idealized as an age of heroism, innovation, and beauty. See ''WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine'' or read ''Literature/TheRailwaySeries'' for an exploration of this attitude.
** Most modern diesel locomotives can be seen as Replacement Scrappies to fans of older locomotive models. This is common among American railroad enthusiasts. Examples include the GE "GEVO" series of locomotives and the EMD [=SD70ACE=] for replacing earlier EMD locomotives like the [=GP7/9=] and [=SD40=].
** Air travel can be seen as this for causing many passenger railroad carriers to go bankrupt and shut down in the 60s and 70s as well as (despite being faster) being a lot less comfortable and sophisticated way to travel.
** Anytime a North American railroad is bought-out or merged there will be fans of the predecessor railroad that dislike the successor. One of the biggest examples would be the Conrail fans who are still bitter at [=CSX=] Transportation and the Norfolk Southern Railway for buying them out in 1999.
* Website/{{Cracked}}'s ''[[http://www.cracked.com/article_16117_6-formerly-kickass-creatures-ruined-by-evolution.html "6 Formerly Kickass Creatures Ruined By Evolution"]]''
* Since the early '90s many famous and historic resorts in Las Vegas have been closed down and demolished and are usually replaced by bigger, fancier, and more modern resorts. Some of these new resorts are seen as Replacement Scrappies by fans of the resorts they replaced.
* Pope Benedict XVI got hit with this hard following the death of the much-loved Pope John Paul II. It didn't help that he'd been in the Hitler Youth (mandatory in Germany at the time) or that his reign coincided with the revelation of widespread sexual abuse by priests. Benedict's successor, Pope Francis I, gets the exact opposite reaction for being very much unlike the unpopular Benedict.
* King John of England. First English king to go to the trouble of learning to speak English (at the time, considered a language for peasants and the lower gentry all previous kings since the Norman Invasion spoke only medieval French); he started what eventually became the Royal Navy; and his death caused no succession crisis because he gave issue (Henry III). ''But'' he lost control of England's territories in France and, unlike his brother and predecessor Richard I ("The Lionheart"), he never went on Crusade, so these days poor John is best remembered as the ArchEnemy to Myth/RobinHood.
** James VI of Scotland got some of this in 1603 when he also became James I of England, taking over from the much-beloved (and long-reigning) Queen Elizabeth I. It didn't help that prior to his succession he was a complete unknown in England, and his low-budget coronation did little for his reputation. The xenophobic reaction for being a Scotsman didn't help. Shakespeare's ''Theatre/MeasureForMeasure'' in which a Viennese duke [[KingIncognito goes undercover]] to see what his people really think of him has been read as a reaction to this unease about the reclusive king.
* Louis XIV of France was a powerful monarch who centralised France and was arguably the perfect example of an absolute monarch. His successor, Louis XV, was never as respected, but lived off his predecessor's success. [[UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution Then came Louis XVI...]]
** The accession of Napoleon III to the throne of France in 1852 was hailed by many as a triumphant return to the glory days of his uncle Napoleon I. It wasn't.
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25th May '17 6:05:47 PM tropeminer
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** When Franchise/TheHauntedMansion at Disneyland replaced their [[IWillWaitForYou Mourning Bride character]] with the more modern [[BlackWidow Constance Hatchway]], with updated effects and a more sinister personality, casual park visitors responded fairly well to her, but [[BrokenBase many]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks die hard]] Mansion fans did not react well to the new character.
* In late 2007, Ride/UniversalStudios closed ''Ride/BackToTheFutureTheRide'' to replace it with ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons The Simpsons Ride]]''. To say that the fans of the former weren't happy is an understatement. This may be a reason why the new ride's queue video loop includes an original segment in which Professor Frink attempts to use time travel to keep the Institute of Future Technology from being replaced with Krustyland, and instead ensures that it is. From there, Doc Brown -- voiced by Christopher Lloyd -- takes up Krusty's offer of employment at his park!

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** When Franchise/TheHauntedMansion ''Franchise/TheHauntedMansion'' at Disneyland replaced their [[IWillWaitForYou Mourning Bride character]] with the more modern [[BlackWidow Constance Hatchway]], with updated effects and a more sinister personality, casual park visitors responded fairly well to her, but [[BrokenBase many]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks die hard]] Mansion fans did not react well to the new character.
** Needless to say, countless fans were downright outraged when ''Ride/TheTwilightZoneTowerOfTerror'' at Disney California Adventure was re-themed into ''[[Ride/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyMissionBreakout Guardians of the Galaxy - MISSION: BREAKOUT]]'' in 2017.
* In late 2007, Ride/UniversalStudios closed ''Ride/BackToTheFutureTheRide'' to replace it with ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons The Simpsons Ride]]''. To say that the fans of the former weren't happy is an understatement. This may be a is the reason why the new ride's queue video loop includes an original segment in which Professor Frink attempts to use time travel TimeTravel [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong to keep the Institute of Future Technology from being replaced with Krustyland, Krustyland]], and instead [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast ensures that it is.is]]. From there, Doc Brown -- voiced by Christopher Lloyd -- takes up Krusty's offer of employment at his park!
23rd May '17 5:39:15 PM KoopaKid17
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* Two instances of this happened on ''Series/TicTacDough'':
** Host Wink Martindale left in 1985 to host his own creation, ''Series/HeadlineChasers''. Taking his place for the final season was PM Magazine's Jim Caldwell. While the show remained the same outside of a set change, Caldwell did not impress fans as host, and was often criticized for his robotic hosting and always saying that he would explain the rules of the special red-box categories "when we get to them." Although he did improve toward the end of the season (to the point that he got another hosting gig on ''Top Card'' later in the decade), the show's core fanbase had already left and were never coming back.
** Beyond a large number of unnecessary cosmetic changes and rules changes that cheapened the game, the main point of contention for the 1990-1991 revival was the hosting style of Patrick Wayne (Creator/JohnWayne's son). Wayne often came across as fake in the interviews and read the questions and RulesSpiel in a monotone, but would [[SuddenlyShouting scream]] "YOU WIN!" if a contestant won the game, or "YOU BLOCK!" if a contestant successfully blocked his/her opponent. His hosting style gained MemeticMutation in the game show community for being one of the worst known hosts.
* And on Creator/JackBarry-Dan Enright Productions' other stalwart, ''Series/TheJokersWild'', Barry's 1984 death led to Creator/BillCullen taking over as host. Although Cullen is often regarded as one of the best game show hosts, he was clearly past his prime on ''Joker'', and was derided for hosting the game very slowly. (Jim Peck, who filled in for Barry at a couple points, also filled in for Cullen... which once led to them having to stop tape and provide Peck with more question cards since the producers had become used to Cullen's slower style!)
* The illness and later death of Allen Ludden prompted ''[[Series/{{Password}} Password Plus]]'' to attain a new permanent host in Tom Kennedy, who kept the show going another 2 years. A subsequent revival, ''Super Password'', had Bert Convy as the host; some fans consider him a replacement Scrappy due to his chatty nature and frequent bloopers, but ''Super'' lasted five years under his tenure.
* ''Series/TheHollywoodSquares'' went through this twice.
** The first came when the producers of ''Series/MatchGame'' decided to partner with those of ''Squares'' to form ''Series/TheMatchGameHollywoodSquaresHour'' in 1983-84. The ''Squares'' portion was hosted not by original ''Squares'' host Peter Marshall (who helmed the show from 1966 to 1980), but rather to Jon Bauman, best known for being Bowser in Music/ShaNaNa (although he did not host in-character). Bauman was obviously inexperienced and stiff in the role, which was only exacerbated by original ''Match Game'' host Gene Rayburn still hosting the ''Match'' portion. In addition, even ''Rayburn'' seemed to hate Bauman.
** And it happened again with the 1986-88 revival, helmed by John Davidson. Many felt that the celebrity panel got too unruly, and that Davidson was unable to calm them down. Also, you'd think after being told thirty or forty times, he'd at least remember how to handle a "cat's game"...[[note]]The contestant has to agree/disagree correctly, and unlike all other squares, their opponent cannot claim the square by merit of the contestant agreeing/disagreeing incorrectly; if the latter happens, then the square is played again until someone claims it.[[/note]]
* Another game show with two examples is the ''Series/{{Pyramid}}'' franchise:
** When the show returned from a three-year hiatus in 1991, original host Creator/DickClark was busy with ''Series/TheChallengers'', so John Davidson took over there as well. As on ''Squares'', Davidson frequently tripped over the rules (many episodes have the offstage staff shouting at him when he messed up) and rarely felt as if he were in control.
** {{Downplayed|Trope}} with Donny Osmond, who hosted the 2002-04 incarnation. While certainly no Dick Clark, and mildly derided for his over-exuberance (e.g., constantly screaming "OH! OH! OH! OH!" when someone failed to clear the [[BonusRound Winner's Circle]]), his imperfections as a host were overshadowed by the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks many, many changes to the gameplay format]] relative to the prior versions.
* Nearly any host of ''Series/FamilyFeud'':
** After the original Richard Dawson-hosted version went off the air in 1985, creator Creator/MarkGoodson launched a revival for Creator/{{CBS}} hosted by a young comedian named Ray Combs, which ran from 1988 to 1994. [[BrokenBase Depending on who is asked]], Combs is either a straight example, an inversion, or an aversion. Those who prefer Combs generally feel that Dawson's (usually) off-camera clashes with the higher-ups outweighed the warmth and wit he (usually) showed on-camera, while the pro-Dawson camp tends to see Combs as cold and smug. [[TakeAThirdOption Still others feel]] that both brought their own styles to the table.
** Ironically, Dawson himself seemed to become one in 1994, when Goodson's son Jonathan (who took over his production company) saw that the show was sinking and decided to bring Dawson back. The years had not been kind to him, as the now 62-year-old Dawson was past his prime: he spoke slower and softer, he had gained a lot of weight, and his once-sharp wit was greatly dulled. The revived Dawson version lasted only a year.
** The revival begun in 1999 originally went to comedian Louie Anderson. He was heavily panned for his weight, gravelly monotone voice, and supposedly bored demeanor (the last of which was even mocked by ''Series/{{MADtv}}''). After he left in 2002, a pattern began where each successive host was considered an improvement at first glance, but then the cracks began to show:
** Richard Karn (2002-06) was initially given a pass because, despite his obvious inexperience, he seemed to show as much enthusiasm and interest in the proceedings as Anderson lacked. However, it quickly became noticeable that Karn was very poor at ad-libbing, to the point that he gained MemeticMutation for constantly [[NoIndoorVoice shouting]] the exact same {{catch phrase}}s OncePerEpisode ("[[LargeHam I'M DOUBLING THE POINTS!]]").
** John O'Hurley (2006-10) also got an initial pass, because he had previously proven himself a capable host on the 2000-2002 revival of ''Series/ToTellTheTruth'' But some felt that he merely seemed to be going through the motions on ''Feud'', while others found him poor at reacting to off-the-wall answers. He was also criticized for overusing his RunningGag of jolting in surprise every time the buzzer sounded in [[BonusRound Fast Money]].
** Even Steve Harvey (2010-), who has brought the show its highest ratings in years, isn't immune. Harvey instantly gained fans due to his LargeHam reactions to stupid answers, which (as in the prior incarnations) were usually organic, off-the-cuff reactions. However, the producers decided to try enforcing Harvey's {{Wild Take}}s as often as possible, leading to a more sophomoric level of question-writing that baited contestants into giving lurid answers.
* Many long-time watchers of ''Series/ThePriceIsRight'' were wondering "What were they thinking?" when the show decided to replace the retiring Bob Barker with Drew Carey as host. In Carey's defense, it would be hard for audiences to see ''anyone'' replacing Barker, since he had hosted the show for [[LongRunners an amazing 35 years]]. Those who hate Drew criticize him for trying to inject humor at inappropriate times (most notoriously, his decision to incorporate TheAnnouncer into "comedic" showcases that generally elicited a DudeNotFunny reaction from the fanbase; to be fair, [[OldShame Drew got the message]]), fluctuating enthusiasm (he seems to act more placid when contestants are performing poorly), and [[MotorMouth talking way too fast]].
** This can also apply to the announcer's booth. After Johnny Olson's 1985 death, Rod Roddy's 2003 death, and Rich Fields' 2010 departure, the show tried out various guest announcers on-air before determining the successor. The substitutes (with the possible exception of Randy West) are all victims of Replacement Scrappydom to some extent, but some of the more prominent ones include:
*** Of all people, veteran announcer Gene Wood was considered one of these when he filled in after Johnny's death. Wood was probably the most prolific game show announcer besides Olson himself, but many felt that his style was just too mellow for ''Price''.
*** Rich Jeffries only did a couple weeks after Johnny's death. Many feel that his flat, nasal voice shouldn't have been behind the mic of ''any'' game show, much less a show such as ''Price'' which requires a lot on the announcer's part.
*** Rod's increasing illness in the late 90s-early 2000s resulted in many fill-ins by Burton Richardson, best known for announcing ''The Arsenio Hall Show'' and the short-lived 1994 syndicated version of ''Price'' hosted by Doug Davidson. He is sometimes criticized for ridiculously over-enunciating and drawing out his words to the point that some think he sounds like a parody of a game show announcer.
*** Another fill-in during Rod's surgery was Paul Boland, who previously did the 1998 revival of ''Series/MatchGame''. His main criticism was being [[NoIndoorVoice way too enthusiastic]]; on one episode, he announced a bottle of cough syrup with the enthusiasm that Olson or Roddy would have given to [[CatchPhrase A NEW CAR!]] He ended up announcing only one week after refusing demands from ''Price'' staff to tone it down.
*** Among those who filled in after Rod's death, Daniel Rosen was universally ''hated'' for a serious lack of enthusiasm and general sloppiness. One episode has him saying "Uh" before the OpeningNarration; one has him completely deadpan the intro to Punch-a-Bunch; and he reportedly had to redo prize copy at least twice because no one in-studio could hear him. Fans also noted that Rosen seemed to be imitating Rod at times by wearing loud clothing and drawing out his name when signing off. He also {{astro turf}}ed fan forum Golden-Road.net with about 50 sockpuppets praising his own performance. However, he must have gotten better, as he is one of the rotating announcers for ''The Price Is Right Live!'', a live production which puts on mock games of ''Price'' in casinos.
*** Despite the many other fill-ins after Rod's death, most had at least some supporters. However, Don Bishop got some hatred from fans for outright refusing to go off-script, while (according to one fan forum) ''Price'' staff nearly kicked [[Series/WheelOfFortune Jim Thornton]] off after only one episode, possibly due to his voice cracking.
*** Rich Fields himself started to become this over time, in part because he was picked over fan favorite Randy West, and in part because many felt that Rich did not have a good voice particularly in later years, when he became increasingly [[NoIndoorVoice loud and grating]].
*** After Rich was fired, six more substitutes rotated until George Gray (former host of ''[[Series/TheGongShow Extreme Gong]]'' and the syndicated ''Series/TheWeakestLink'') became the show's fourth permanent announcer. Among the substitutes, Steve White and Brad Sherwood were hated for their fake enthusiasm (and White even more so for [[TheNicknamer giving Drew silly nicknames]]), while former ''Series/ShopTilYouDrop'' host JD Roberto was seen as SoOkayItsAverage but lost points for insulting a contestant (although he later got to announce the 2012 revival of ''Series/{{Pyramid}}''). While there was some pushback over Gray getting the job (his first few episodes were shaky; some fans thought that David H. Lawrence XVII or Jeff B. Davis had better voices; and some felt that Gray only got the job because he was friends with executive producer Mike Richards), he has ultimately averted this trope and most fans feel that he is a worthwhile successor.
** Bart Eskander, the show's director from 2000-2009 (and the show's third after Marc Breslow and Creator/PaulAlter), was hated by most of the fanbase for his oversimplified and stiff style.
* Brad Sherwood was previously hated for his fake enthusiasm and excessive joking around when he hosted a revival of ''Series/TheDatingGame'' in TheNineties. As a result, he was replaced by veteran game show host Chuck Woolery, who fared ''far'' better.
* When ''Series/CardSharks'' was revived in 1986-88, it took two forms: a Creator/{{CBS}} version with Bob Eubanks hosting, and a syndicated version with Bill Rafferty, both of whom had markedly different styles from original host Jim Perry. While Rafferty averted this, Eubanks was seen as either a straight example or another aversion. Eubanks was criticized for bringing the same sleazy hosting style he had mastered on ''Series/TheNewlywedGame'' to a show that didn't really call for it. Others didn't mind his demeanor.
* Pat Bullard had this happen twice: first, when he took over the 1998 revival of ''Series/LoveConnection'', and three years later when he helmed another revival of ''Series/CardSharks''. On both shows, he was derided for being wooden, bland, and unfunny. This ''especially'' stood out on a more host-driven format like ''Love Connection'', where he clearly had none of original host Chuck Woolery's charm, charisma, or humor.
* ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' had this happen a few times:
** In the 1980s, the show's most famous host-hostess tandem (Pat Sajak and Vanna White) had their share of haters due to the former's purported blandness and the latter's purported lack of talent beyond looking pretty and turning letters. (''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' once joked that Sajak is the only man in show biz who gets upstaged by a woman who never speaks.) At the very least, they had a different style than the comparatively looser Chuck Woolery and Susan Stafford, who hosted the show from its 1975 beginnings on Creator/{{NBC}}. (Chuck left in 1981 due to a salary dispute, and Susan a year later to pursue charity work.) To Pat and Vanna's credit, they've hosted the nighttime version consistently since it began in 1983, so they must be doing something right. Most of those who are against Pat and/or Vanna are likely just applying the NostalgiaFilter.
** Sajak stepped down from the daytime version in January 1989 because he wanted to begin [[Series/ThePatSajakShow a talk show]]. Creator Creator/MervGriffin replaced him with Rolf Bernischke, a former football player who had no TV experience and was visibly out of his element. While he seemed genial toward the contestants, he often looked lost and nervous, and constantly made mistakes on-air. On one episode, he had to admit on-air that he didn't know how to break a tie when one happened[[note]](to his credit, ties are extremely rare on ''Wheel'')[[/note]], and on another, a contestant corrected him on one of the game's rules... during a Teen Week. After only six months, the daytime version {{Channel Hop}}ped to Creator/{{CBS}} and replaced Rolf with the more experienced Bob Goen, who was able to carry it for a three years (counting a hop back to NBC) before daytime game shows fell by the wayside.
** After [[TheAnnouncer announcer]] Jack Clark died of bone cancer in 1988, he was replaced by Los Angeles deejay M.G. Kelly. Kelly is generally hated by the fanbase for being way too mellow. Pat also pointed out in an interview that Kelly frequently had to redo his copy in post because he kept making mistakes. Kelly left the show in February 1989 when Clark's predecessor, Charlie O'Donnell, returned.
** A similar hatred came for those who filled in after Charlie's death in November 2010. Veteran announcers John Cramer, Joe Cipriano, and Rich Fields (then-recently fired from his position at ''Series/ThePriceIsRight'') were generally hated for their own lack of enthusiasm (surprising, given Rich's derision for the exact opposite problem on ''Price''), as was extremely obscure voiceover artist Lora Cain.[[note]](Johnny Gilbert of ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', who had previously filled in for Jack in 1988 and Charlie in 1995, also did three weeks, but was obviously never considered for the job -- in addition to still holding down the fort at ''Jeopardy!'', he is also considerably older than Charlie.)[[/note]] This put the fanbase almost unanimously in favor of Jim Thornton, who got the job in summer 2011.
** Towards the end of Season 12 in 1995, Harry Friedman replaced Nancy Jones as producer. While the show's updates were consistent under Jones' tenure, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Friedman made many]] [[ComplexityAddiction unpopular changes]] [[WereStillRelevantDammit to keep it fresh]] [[SeasonalRot starting in Season 14]]. Among his "contributions" were a single wheel template in use since 1996, Toss-Up puzzles and the retirement of Creator/MervGriffin's music packages in 2000, Prize Puzzles in 2003, and a $1,000,000 cash prize in 2008. In 2013, it was confirmed that he approves every puzzle that makes it onto the show and fans call him out for approving such low-quality puzzles, the Prize Puzzle in particular.
** A variant involving gameplay elements. The Free Spin token had been associated with ''Wheel'' since the pilots, offering an ExtraTurn to a contestant to use at their leisure. Then in Fall 2009, the Free Spin was replaced by the Free Play wedge which [[ButThouMust forces the Extra Turn the moment it is landed on]]. Contestants can also use the Free Play to call a free vowel (which could not be done with the Free Spin) and fans have noticed how often the wedge is [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome exploited as such]].
** Also, there's the Million Dollar Wedge which replaced the $10,000-Wedge. Fans who weren't happy with the replacement didn't like such an iconic wedge being replaced while others just hated the idea of incorporating such a large prize onto the show. Also, the inclusion of the Million Dollar Wedge for the first three rounds increases the likelihood of hitting a Bankrupt whereas the $10,000-Wedge only appeared in one round of the game (except in its first two seasons where it stayed on the Wheel after Round 3 until the end of the game or if it claimed).
* When ''Series/LetsMakeADeal'' was revived in 1990, original host/co-producer Monty Hall felt that he was too old to host anymore, so he chose Bob Hilton to host. Hilton, who had far more experience as an announcer than as a host, was so poorly received by the fanbase that Hall actually guest-hosted the last few weeks to try and save a sinking ship. His original intent was merely to fill in until he could find a suitable host to carry Season 2, but the show got canceled instead.
* Although she is not without her fans (and has won two Daytime Emmys for "Outstanding Game Show Host"), Meredith Vieira is sometimes seen as this on ''Series/WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire'' in comparison to original host Regis Philbin. (The switch in hosts coincided with the show moving from Creator/{{ABC}} to syndication.) Detractors of Meredith find her style too low-key and nicey-nice, particularly in comparison to the more exuberant Regis.
** Meredith's successors Cedric "The Entertainer" Kyles and Terry Crews both received lukewarm-at-best reception from fans, and did nothing to revive the show's continuously fading popularity, with both only lasting a year. Kyles was criticized for ill-advised attempts to bring comedy into the show, and for frequently wearing fedoras in-studio, while Crews was regarded as having NoIndoorVoice. Chris Harrison hasn't slowed the ratings decline either, but he has been better received by fans (particularly those who enjoyed Meredith's low-key style).
* A fair number of UK game show ''Hole in the Wall'' fans see Anton Du Beke as this after he replaced Dale Winton (of Supermarket Sweep fame) as presenter.
* An inversion. Scott Beach was the first announcer on ''Series/TheNewlywedGame'', but was kicked out supposedly because he would sing war protest songs to the audience during commercial breaks. He was replaced by Johnny Jacobs, who was anything but a Scrappy he held his ''Newlywed'' role alone for 14 years and later went on to become a prolific announcer (besides many other shows by ''Newlywed'' creator Creator/ChuckBarris, he also handled ''Series/TheJokersWild'' and ''Series/TicTacDough'') until his 1980 death.
** Late in the 1980s revival of ''The Newlywed Game'', Paul Rodriguez took over from the show's longtime host, Bob Eubanks (who had hosted multiple versions dating back to the 60s). Rodriguez was originally seen as overbearing and too far-removed from Bob's "loveable sleazeball" shtick, but eventually grew into the role, thus making him an aversion.
** Carnie Wilson, who hosted the 2000s revival, was seen as this by many, although many who have been to tapings said that she came off better in-studio and was more a victim of post-production.
* In 1989, Bert Convy stepped down as host of ''Series/WinLoseOrDraw'' to host and produce ''3rd Degree!'', with ''Series/EntertainmentTonight'' correspondent Robb Weller replacing him. Weller was generally disliked for his stiff hosting style and tripping over the rules, and his version lasted only one season. Meanwhile, from 1989-92, Creator/DisneyChannel had a ReTool for the younger audience called ''Teen Win, Lose or Draw''; this version was hosted by obscure actor Marc Price, who failed to impress for similar reasons.
* ''Series/DoubleDare1986'':
** Subverted when Harvey left before the 1992 season of ''Family Double Dare''. His replacement, Doc Holliday, may have not the chemistry Harvey had with Marc Summers, but fans thought he brought his own style and made it work.
** Then came ''Double Dare 2000'' which had Jason Harris replacing Marc along with Tiffany Phelps as the announcer. Jason's hosting style dragged the game play down and he often fumbled over the physical challenge descriptions. Tiffany wasn't much better, as she was overbearingly shrill when introducing Jason.
* Oddly enough, many considered Creator/AlexTrebek this when initially tapped to host the revived ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'' in 1984. Many viewers found him cold and condescending compared to the original series' host, Art Fleming, who declined the chance to host the new version. This criticism faded over time though, as Trebek [[GrowingTheBeard grew into the role]] and memories of Fleming's versions faded (due mainly to [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes most of them being wiped]]).
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22nd May '17 2:32:14 PM DoctorCooper
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* When WebVideo/{{Jon|Tron}} left ''WebVideo/GameGrumps'' and Danny of ''Music/NinjaSexParty'' took his place, he got hit with this reaction by half the fanbase (the others accepting him and trying to calm the angry half down).
** And then on the same channel is WebVideo/SteamTrain, starring Danny and [=RubberRoss=], which started the same day that Jon left. Ross stated that the show had nothing to do with Jon's departure and the timing was unfortunate.
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* When WebVideo/{{Jon|Tron}} left ''WebVideo/GameGrumps'' and Danny of ''Music/NinjaSexParty'' took his place, he got hit with this reaction by half the fanbase (the others accepting him and trying to calm the angry half down).
** And then on the same channel is WebVideo/SteamTrain, starring Danny and [=RubberRoss=], which started the same day that Jon left. Ross stated that the show had nothing to do with Jon's departure and the timing was unfortunate.
21st May '17 3:18:49 PM Twentington
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*** Among those who filled in after Rod's death, Daniel Rosen was universally ''hated'' for a serious lack of enthusiasm and general sloppiness. One episode has him completely deadpan the intro to Punch-a-Bunch; he reportedly had to redo prize copy at least twice because no one in-studio could hear him; and one episode opens to him clearly saying "uh" before the OpeningNarration. Fans also noted that Rosen seemed to be imitating Rod at times by wearing loud clothing and drawing out his name when signing off. He also {{astro turf}}ed fan forum Golden-Road.net with about 50 sockpuppets praising his own performance. However, he must have gotten better, as he is one of the rotating announcers for ''The Price Is Right Live!'', a live production which puts on mock games of ''Price'' in casinos.

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*** Among those who filled in after Rod's death, Daniel Rosen was universally ''hated'' for a serious lack of enthusiasm and general sloppiness. One episode has him saying "Uh" before the OpeningNarration; one has him completely deadpan the intro to Punch-a-Bunch; and he reportedly had to redo prize copy at least twice because no one in-studio could hear him; and one episode opens to him clearly saying "uh" before the OpeningNarration.him. Fans also noted that Rosen seemed to be imitating Rod at times by wearing loud clothing and drawing out his name when signing off. He also {{astro turf}}ed fan forum Golden-Road.net with about 50 sockpuppets praising his own performance. However, he must have gotten better, as he is one of the rotating announcers for ''The Price Is Right Live!'', a live production which puts on mock games of ''Price'' in casinos.
10th May '17 8:18:34 PM glickmam
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*** After Rich was fired, six more substitutes rotated until George Gray (former host of ''[[Series/TheGongShow Extreme Gong]]'' and the syndicated ''Series/TheWeakestLink'') became the show's fourth permanent announcer. Among the substitutes, Steve White and Brad Sherwood were hated for their fake enthusiasm (and White even more so for [[TheNicknamer giving Drew silly nicknames]]), while former ''Series/ShopTilYouDrop'' host JD Roberto was seen as SoOkayItsAverage but lost points for insulting a contestant (although he later got to announce the 2012 revival of ''Series/{{Pyramid}}''). While there was some pushback over Gray getting the job (his first few episodes were shaky; some fans thought that David H. Lawrence XVII or Jeff B. Davis had better voices; and some felt that Gray only got the job because he was buddies with the producers), he has ultimately averted this trope and most fans feel that he is a worthwhile successor.

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*** After Rich was fired, six more substitutes rotated until George Gray (former host of ''[[Series/TheGongShow Extreme Gong]]'' and the syndicated ''Series/TheWeakestLink'') became the show's fourth permanent announcer. Among the substitutes, Steve White and Brad Sherwood were hated for their fake enthusiasm (and White even more so for [[TheNicknamer giving Drew silly nicknames]]), while former ''Series/ShopTilYouDrop'' host JD Roberto was seen as SoOkayItsAverage but lost points for insulting a contestant (although he later got to announce the 2012 revival of ''Series/{{Pyramid}}''). While there was some pushback over Gray getting the job (his first few episodes were shaky; some fans thought that David H. Lawrence XVII or Jeff B. Davis had better voices; and some felt that Gray only got the job because he was buddies friends with the producers), executive producer Mike Richards), he has ultimately averted this trope and most fans feel that he is a worthwhile successor.
3rd May '17 8:05:25 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* This happened to Music/{{Sepultura}} when Derrick Green replaced Max Cavalera. Curiously, Jean Dolabella didn't receive as much flak when he substituted Igor Cavalera on drums, both because the two albums he recorded (''A-Lex'' and ''Kairos'') were well received and because everyone (even in the band) was waiting for Igor to follow his bro.

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* This happened to Music/{{Sepultura}} when Derrick Green replaced Max Cavalera. Curiously, Jean Dolabella didn't receive as much flak when he substituted Igor Cavalera on drums, both because the two albums he recorded (''A-Lex'' and ''Kairos'') were well received and because everyone (even in the band) was waiting for Igor to follow his bro.bro, and Eloy Casagrande was given an even warmer reception after ''he'' replaced Dolabella.



* Jake E. Lee, who played guitar with Music/OzzyOsbourne after the tragic death of Randy Rhoads. Fans would hold up pictures of Rhoads during concerts and flip Jake middle fingers during his solos. Jake ultimately quit after the 1987 release of the ''Randy Rhoads Tribute'' live album, unable to escape being in Randy's shadow. His replacement, Zakk Wylde, fared much better.

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* Jake E. Lee, who played guitar with Music/OzzyOsbourne after the tragic death of Randy Rhoads. Fans would hold up pictures of Rhoads during concerts and flip Jake middle fingers during his solos. Jake was ultimately quit fired by Sharon Osbourne after the 1987 release of the ''Randy Rhoads Tribute'' live album, unable to escape being in Randy's shadow. album. His replacement, Zakk Wylde, fared much better.better, though Lee ultimately became VindicatedByHistory as a very creative, unique, and interesting guitarist who did his own thing instead of blindly copying Rhoads and ultimately became a subversion.


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* While Music/{{Suffocation}} fans didn't ''dislike'' Ricky Myers at all (indeed, the consensus was that he did a very solid job as their touring vocalist), they made it very clear that they would have much rather had Frank Mullen up onstage than Myers.
21st Apr '17 6:22:42 PM merotoker
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* ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/AttackOfTheClones'': Count Dooku is a very cool character in his own right, but at the time many fans dismissed him for not being [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Darth]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse Maul]]. Who was himself very cool, but no Darth Vader.
** ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheForceAwakens'': Does this again with Kylo Ren, the successor to Darth Vader. There's a section of fans that do like him but many find him not as cool or intimidating or badass. (Even InUniverse, he struggles to live up Vader's legacy and reputation)

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* ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/AttackOfTheClones'': ''Franchise/StarWars''
** ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'':
Count Dooku is a very cool character in his own right, but at the time many fans dismissed him for not being [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Darth]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse Maul]]. Who was himself very cool, but no Darth Vader.
** ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheForceAwakens'': ''Film/TheForceAwakens'': Does this again with Kylo Ren, the successor to Darth Vader. There's a section of fans that do like him but many find him not as cool or intimidating or badass. (Even InUniverse, he struggles to live up Vader's legacy and reputation)



* ''Film/SupermanIII'': While viewers were looking forward to see how Clark's relationship with Lois would develop, actress Margot Kidder argued with the producers over the firing of original director Richard Donner. As a result she was reduced to a cameo, and her role as Superman's love interest filled by Lana Lang.

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* ''Film/SupermanIII'': While viewers were looking forward to see how Clark's relationship with Lois would develop, actress Margot Kidder argued with the producers over the firing of original director Richard Donner.Creator/RichardDonner. As a result she was reduced to a cameo, and her role as Superman's love interest filled by Lana Lang.






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* Creator/VCAndrews fans don't much like Andrew Neiderman, her ghostwriter after she died. This intensified in recent years, due to the downward quality with each book published.
** For the actual books, Annie Stonewall from ''Literature/TheCasteelSeries'' is this for her mother Heaven in ''Gates of Paradise''. Fans found her to be incredibly whiny and spoiled compared to Heaven, and even fans that liked ''Gates of Paradise'' felt Annie was one of the worst parts about the book.
* The short story ''Johnny Come Lately'' by Marc Singer tells the story from the ''Scrappy's'' point of view; based heavily on the Franchise/GreenLantern furor outlined [[ReplacementScrappy/ComicBooks here]], it tells the story of a young man picked at random as the replacement for a well-admired superhero after his death and the destruction of his league by the sentient hourglass that was his symbol, who finds his every effort, no matter how sincere, sneered at and put down by ingrates [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer for no other reason]] than he's the new guy. The replacement isn't best pleased at his new lot in life.
* ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' regularly had characters (especially Luke) being [[DeusExitMachina written out]] temporarily. So ''Literature/ShadowsOfTheEmpire'' readers hate Dash Rendar for his similarity to Han Solo. (It takes place between ''Empire'' and ''Jedi''.) And ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' readers hate Kenth Hamner for trying to replace Luke. Oddly, Ben isn't hated, despite often being considered an {{Expy}} of Anakin Solo. Parodied with [[EldritchAbomination Abeloth]], who tries to impersonate Mara and Callista and gets the Replacement Scrappy treatment [[spoiler:(and a few fatal lightsaber wounds)]] from Luke himself for her efforts.
* The ''Literature/WarriorCats'' fanbase has had this reaction to a few characters.
** In ''Forest of Secrets'', the third book in the series, Graystripe's mate Silverstream dies. Ten books later in ''The Sight'', Graystripe, who was captured by humans in ''Dawn'', returns to the Clans with a new mate called Millie. Millie has received a ton of hate, and most of it is for either not being Silverstream, or (among fans who completely ignore the aesop about racism) for being a former kittypet.
** Cinderheart, the reincarnation of the snarky medicine cat Cinderpelt, is hated for being more optimistic and playful than her jaded previous incarnation.
** In ''Sunrise'', [[spoiler:it was revealed that Hollyleaf, who was thought to be the subject of a prophecy, actually had no connection to the prophecy at all.]] When ''The Fourth Apprentice'' rolled around, [[spoiler:Dovewing, the true hero, started receiving bile due to how different she was from Hollyleaf.]]
* In ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', following [[spoiler:Moiraine]]'s HeroicSacrifice, Rand got a new bossy female mentor-type thing in Cadsuane. Unfortunately, while [[spoiler:Moiraine]] was likeable and seemed to genuinely care about people, Cadsuane was a bossy, knowitall MarySue.
** In fairness, this was likely mostly intentional, as the original was putting the Aes Sedai and co in danger of being sympathetic and the author needed to keep them firmly in antagonist territory for later plot development to work. If Rand thought they were probably inclined to be reasonable and negotiated the series probably would have come in at its original intended length instead of seven or eight times longer.
* ''Literature/{{Wicked}}'' fans haven't taken much of an interest in Liir, who replaced Elphaba after she died. Being [[spoiler:Elphaba's son]] doesn't stop him from being TheScrappy, and may have been [[DieForOurShip even worse for his reputation]].
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** The revival begun in 1999 originally went to comedian Louie Anderson. He was heavily panned for his weight, gravelly monotone voice, and supposedly bored demeanor (the last of which was even mocked by ''Series/MadTV''). After he left in 2002, a pattern began where each successive host was considered an improvement at first glance, but then the cracks began to show:
** Richard Karn (2002-06) was initially given a pass because, despite his obvious inexperience, he seemed to show as much enthusiasm and interest in the proceedings as Anderson lacked. However, it quickly became noticeable that Karn was very poor at ad-libbing, to the point that he gained MemeticMutation for constantly [[NoIndoorVoice shouting]] the exact same {{catch phrase}}s OnceAnEpisode ("[[LargeHam I'M DOUBLING THE POINTS!]]").

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** The revival begun in 1999 originally went to comedian Louie Anderson. He was heavily panned for his weight, gravelly monotone voice, and supposedly bored demeanor (the last of which was even mocked by ''Series/MadTV'').''Series/{{MADtv}}''). After he left in 2002, a pattern began where each successive host was considered an improvement at first glance, but then the cracks began to show:
** Richard Karn (2002-06) was initially given a pass because, despite his obvious inexperience, he seemed to show as much enthusiasm and interest in the proceedings as Anderson lacked. However, it quickly became noticeable that Karn was very poor at ad-libbing, to the point that he gained MemeticMutation for constantly [[NoIndoorVoice shouting]] the exact same {{catch phrase}}s OnceAnEpisode OncePerEpisode ("[[LargeHam I'M DOUBLING THE POINTS!]]").



[[folder:Literature]]
* Creator/VCAndrews fans don't much like Andrew Neiderman, her ghostwriter after she died. This intensified in recent years, due to the downward quality with each book published.
** For the actual books, Annie Stonewall from ''Literature/TheCasteelSeries'' is this for her mother Heaven in ''Gates of Paradise''. Fans found her to be incredibly whiny and spoiled compared to Heaven, and even fans that liked ''Gates of Paradise'' felt Annie was one of the worst parts about the book.
* The short story ''Johnny Come Lately'' by Marc Singer tells the story from the ''Scrappy's'' point of view; based heavily on the Franchise/GreenLantern furor outlined [[ReplacementScrappy/ComicBooks here]], it tells the story of a young man picked at random as the replacement for a well-admired superhero after his death and the destruction of his league by the sentient hourglass that was his symbol, who finds his every effort, no matter how sincere, sneered at and put down by ingrates [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer for no other reason]] than he's the new guy. The replacement isn't best pleased at his new lot in life.
* ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' regularly had characters (especially Luke) being [[DeusExitMachina written out]] temporarily. So ''Literature/ShadowsOfTheEmpire'' readers hate Dash Rendar for his similarity to Han Solo. (It takes place between ''Empire'' and ''Jedi''.) And ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' readers hate Kenth Hamner for trying to replace Luke. Oddly, Ben isn't hated, despite often being considered an {{Expy}} of Anakin Solo. Parodied with [[EldritchAbomination Abeloth]], who tries to impersonate Mara and Callista and gets the Replacement Scrappy treatment [[spoiler:(and a few fatal lightsaber wounds)]] from Luke himself for her efforts.
* The ''Literature/WarriorCats'' fanbase has had this reaction to a few characters.
** In ''Forest of Secrets'', the third book in the series, Graystripe's mate Silverstream dies. Ten books later in ''The Sight'', Graystripe, who was captured by humans in ''Dawn'', returns to the Clans with a new mate called Millie. Millie has received a ton of hate, and most of it is for either not being Silverstream, or (among fans who completely ignore the aesop about racism) for being a former kittypet.
** Cinderheart, the reincarnation of the snarky medicine cat Cinderpelt, is hated for being more optimistic and playful than her jaded previous incarnation.
** In ''Sunrise'', [[spoiler:it was revealed that Hollyleaf, who was thought to be the subject of a prophecy, actually had no connection to the prophecy at all]]. When ''The Fourth Apprentice'' rolled around, [[spoiler:Dovewing, the true hero, started receiving bile due to how different she was from Hollyleaf]].
* In ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', following [[spoiler:Moiraine]]'s HeroicSacrifice, Rand got a new bossy female mentor-type thing in Cadsuane. Unfortunately, while [[spoiler:Moiraine]] was likeable and seemed to genuinely care about people, Cadsuane was a bossy, knowitall MarySue.
** In fairness, this was likely mostly intentional, as the original was putting the Aes Sedai and co in danger of being sympathetic and the author needed to keep them firmly in antagonist territory for later plot development to work. If Rand thought they were probably inclined to be reasonable and negotiated the series probably would have come in at its original intended length instead of seven or eight times longer.
* ''Literature/{{Wicked}}'' fans haven't taken much of an interest in Liir, who replaced Elphaba after she died. Being [[spoiler:Elphaba's son]] doesn't stop him from being TheScrappy, and may have been [[DieForOurShip even worse for his reputation]].
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** TheAgonist and Music/ArchEnemy have a similar one. In TheAgonist, Alissa White-Gluz was the first vocalist (and one of the founding memebers) but she was kicked out of the band for joining Music/ArchEnemy when long-term vocalist Angela Gossow decided to call it quits. Vicky Psarakis (The Agonist) is massively hated for "not being Alissa" and Alissa has the same problem in Music/ArchEnemy for not being Angela.

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** TheAgonist and Music/ArchEnemy have a similar one. In TheAgonist, Alissa White-Gluz was the first vocalist (and one of the founding memebers) members) but she was kicked out of the band for joining Music/ArchEnemy when long-term vocalist Angela Gossow decided to call it quits. Vicky Psarakis (The Agonist) is massively hated for "not being Alissa" and Alissa has the same problem in Music/ArchEnemy for not being Angela.



** Also averted when Roy Khan left and was replaced by Tommy Karevik. He was pretty well received by the fans, both because he's a talented singer on his own right, but he can also emmulate well Roy Khan's style.

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** Also averted when Roy Khan left and was replaced by Tommy Karevik. He was pretty well received by the fans, both because he's a talented singer on his own right, but he can also emmulate emulate well Roy Khan's style.



* Pretty much any LongRunner newspaper comic will get hit with this when a new creative team takes over, as the new team usually has little interest other than [[MoneyDearBoy keeping a popular name alive as long as humanly possible]]. For instance, when Jeff [=MacNelly=] died in 2000, the duties on ''ComicStrip/{{Shoe}}'' were handed over to artist Gary Brookins, with assistance from longtime strip assistant Chris Cassatt (until his own death in 2013) and [=MacNelly's=] wife, Susie. (Brookins had already taken over [=MacNelly's=] other strip ''ComicStrip/{{Pluggers}}'' in 1997, and started doing ''Shoe'' dailies a year before [=MacNelly's=] death. He also took over [=MacNelly's=] duties as illustrator for Creator/DaveBarry columns and books.) Under their watch, ''Shoe'' went from what had once been a fairly popular and often topical strip (much of the humor in the strip's prime was political, and a mid-1980s story where [[BootCampEpisode a character enrolled in Camp LeJeune under the false impression that it was a summer camp]] became very popular with fans) to a forgettable deluge of lame one-liners about getting old, not understanding women, or not understanding men.

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* Pretty much any LongRunner {{Long Runner|s}} newspaper comic will get hit with this when a new creative team takes over, as the new team usually has little interest other than [[MoneyDearBoy keeping a popular name alive as long as humanly possible]]. For instance, when Jeff [=MacNelly=] died in 2000, the duties on ''ComicStrip/{{Shoe}}'' were handed over to artist Gary Brookins, with assistance from longtime strip assistant Chris Cassatt (until his own death in 2013) and [=MacNelly's=] wife, Susie. (Brookins had already taken over [=MacNelly's=] other strip ''ComicStrip/{{Pluggers}}'' in 1997, and started doing ''Shoe'' dailies a year before [=MacNelly's=] death. He also took over [=MacNelly's=] duties as illustrator for Creator/DaveBarry columns and books.) Under their watch, ''Shoe'' went from what had once been a fairly popular and often topical strip (much of the humor in the strip's prime was political, and a mid-1980s story where [[BootCampEpisode a character enrolled in Camp LeJeune under the false impression that it was a summer camp]] became very popular with fans) to a forgettable deluge of lame one-liners about getting old, not understanding women, or not understanding men.



* Wrestling/RomanReigns has somehow managed to become this for '''''Wrestling/JohnCena''''', of all people. What it comes down to is the "Superman" character they're both playing, and the fact that whoever is playing that character gets to be THE top guy, which is strange. The character is hated by everybody who isn't under the age of ten or a woman. That's why Cena was such a BaseBreaker. That being said, for how much fans hated Cena over it, he at least made it ''bearable''. Reigns' run with the character has gotten so bad that even the smarks miss Cena, and many are starting to speculate (half-jokingly, half-not) that this is all some grand master plan of Wrestling/VinceMcMahon [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees to get Cena universally over with the IWC]].

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* Wrestling/RomanReigns has somehow managed to become this for '''''Wrestling/JohnCena''''', of all people. What it comes down to is the "Superman" character they're both playing, and the fact that whoever is playing that character gets to be THE top guy, which is strange. The character is hated by everybody who isn't under the age of ten or a woman. That's why Cena was such a BaseBreaker. That being said, for how much fans hated Cena over it, he at least made it ''bearable''. Reigns' run with the character has gotten so bad that even the smarks miss Cena, and many are starting to speculate (half-jokingly, half-not) that this is all some grand master plan of Wrestling/VinceMcMahon [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees [[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees to get Cena universally over with the IWC]].



** Nine years later, in 2004, Kasem took his second (and final) bow from the program (which had been UnCancelled in 1998), to be replaced by the current host, ''Series/AmericanIdol'''s Ryan Seacrest. While there was a lot less said about the changeover this time around, many longtime fans still don't hold Seacrest (or the current iteration of the show, for that matter) in nearly as high a regard.

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** Nine years later, in 2004, Kasem took his second (and final) bow from the program (which had been UnCancelled UnCanceled in 1998), to be replaced by the current host, ''Series/AmericanIdol'''s Ryan Seacrest. While there was a lot less said about the changeover this time around, many longtime fans still don't hold Seacrest (or the current iteration of the show, for that matter) in nearly as high a regard.



*** Most of the Season 3 cast developed strong followings, mostly thanks to getting a lot more CharacterFocus compared the the CastHerd of earlier seasons. However, very few defenders exist for Daniel and Wheelie, who filled the "[[KidAppealCharacter younger robot]] and TagalongKid" slot previously filled by Spike and Bumblebee. Spike and Bumblebee are considered by a lot of fans to be how to do a KidAppealCharacter ''right'', with their understated roles, genuine competence, and charming eagerness. On the other hand, Daniel and Wheelie are considered to be how to do it ''wrong'' - Daniel, for being ''too'' young, constantly crying, and acting like an idiot, Wheelie, for his dorky design, [[RhymesOnADime constantly rhyming,]] and having the [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter tracker/survivalist]] elements of his character constantly downplayed in favor of making him Robot ComicStrip/DennisTheMenace.

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*** Most of the Season 3 cast developed strong followings, mostly thanks to getting a lot more CharacterFocus compared the to the CastHerd of earlier seasons. However, very few defenders exist for Daniel and Wheelie, who filled the "[[KidAppealCharacter younger robot]] and TagalongKid" slot previously filled by Spike and Bumblebee. Spike and Bumblebee are considered by a lot of fans to be how to do a KidAppealCharacter ''right'', with their understated roles, genuine competence, and charming eagerness. On the other hand, Daniel and Wheelie are considered to be how to do it ''wrong'' - Daniel, for being ''too'' young, constantly crying, and acting like an idiot, Wheelie, for his dorky design, [[RhymesOnADime constantly rhyming,]] and having the [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter tracker/survivalist]] elements of his character constantly downplayed in favor of making him Robot ComicStrip/DennisTheMenace.DennisTheMenace.



* Princess Sally, Sonic's love interest in ''WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM'' and [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog the Archie comics]], sometimes gets flack from some fans for supposedly being a "replacement" for the video games' Amy Rose - though this isn't exactly fair, seeing as the idea that Amy was a major character by the time of Sally's introduction is far from true. In fact, the American manual for Amy's debut, ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD'', actually refers to Amy as Princess Sally in an effort to tie-in with the show, indicating that, for Americans, Princess Sally preceded (or at least appeared around the same time as) Amy Rose.

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* Princess Sally, Sonic's love interest in ''WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM'' and [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog [[ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog the Archie comics]], sometimes gets flack from some fans for supposedly being a "replacement" for the video games' Amy Rose - though this isn't exactly fair, seeing as the idea that Amy was a major character by the time of Sally's introduction is far from true. In fact, the American manual for Amy's debut, ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD'', actually refers to Amy as Princess Sally in an effort to tie-in with the show, indicating that, for Americans, Princess Sally preceded (or at least appeared around the same time as) Amy Rose.
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