Just as poison oak is a plant to avoid, these tropes are Epileptic Trees to avoid (well, not for some of us). Basically a crazy theory of your favourite show/game/movie/book/etc., that just pops into your head, but you don't want to be true.
It could be because it's something squicky, stupid, horribly cliche, too sad, or just plain Trolling For the Evulz, but for whatever reason, you really want to be wrong in this case. Sometimes you wanted to eradicate the theory from your brain, but it still persists and the theory just begs to be written down. Sometimes the guess can contain elements of Canon, Word of God or Truth in Television, but you just found said elements to be too disgusting for standards and/or wished it to be nothing but mere fictional lies.
See also No Yay, Fridge Horror, and Stock Epileptic Trees.
Older guesses have been archived. See these archive pages to review those entries.
- As of 2023, it remains unsure whether the books will follow a similar path, but the reception to Season 8 of the series would seem to confirm this if they do. Although the showrunners have made statements about several plotlines to the effect that they were things they themselves came up with.
All the time Hawking spends making guest appearances on Futurama, writing popular science books about scientific questions (that lead to nowhere useful), or having any kind of personal life, he is extending his own life, but at the cost of delaying the next stage of civilization.- After Steven Hawking's death, this is Dude, Not Funny!, and Jossed.
- Especially since Hawking made groundbreaking advancements in his field, and was responsible for a fair chunk of our current understanding of space and physics. Just because you don't have the degrees required to understand advanced astrophysics doesn't mean it's a useless field.
- After Steven Hawking's death, this is Dude, Not Funny!, and Jossed.
- Also the same reason why True Art Is Angsty, why art critics like a good Tragedy, and why sad Classical Music (e.g. Lonely Piano Piece) is beautiful. Why the hell are Hamlet, Neon Genesis Evangelion (which is based on the tragedy of Oedipus the King) and Puella Magi Madoka Magica (which is based on the tragic archetype of Faust) so acclaimed and popular?
- Same with the All Blue Entries (see the Smurf theories above).
- Speaking of other creators of depressing art, this may also mean that Hideaki Anno thought of creating Rei Ayanami when drunk on a cocktail that includes Smurfs and Tang. Hence Rei's blue hair and Evangelion's depression appeal.
Hypothesized to be the reason why Equestria has little pandemics of deadly diseases, such as the infamous Ebola Virus which should have been transmitted through the non-vaccinated wild animals Fluttershy takes care of. Also speculated to be able to cause limited antidepressant pheromone effects to non-intelligent lower animals as well, which can be weaponized in the form of her Stare which pacifies any animal. I'm also hypothesizing that if Ebola or an alien plague (e.g. unpacifiable parasitic Xenomorphs, Zerg infestation, Hate Plague, any disease that results in Zombie Apocalypse, Ebola, etc) invaded Equestria and Fluttershy wasn't there to pacify and cure the infected, then even the alicorns Twilight and Celestia would have never saw the megadeaths coming before it's too late for their magic to fix the devastation wrought by the pandemic, similar to the Aztecs' lack of immunity to European xeno diseases. (Also, without Fluttershy's tears to provide immunity and pacification, they would have never been able to resist said Zerg Rush, considering that unlike Fluttershy, Twilight and Celestia prefer to fight directly with their Psychic Powers which the Zerg Swarm will simply find delicious, which means that they will be infested into the pony equivalent of Kerrigan. No, the Elements of Harmony aka the Orbital Friendship Cannon will not help to repel the aggressive and limitless xenomorph swarm, and the psychic emissions caused by the Elements will just attract even worse intergalactic Tyranids. Ergo, only using the pacifying pheromones in Fluttershy's tears will subdue the Swarm of these animals).
But why don't we humans and other inhabitants of alternate universes have perfect health in the Future? Because, this unobtainium is mostly consumed by Incubators, who necessitate a constant supply of Moe in order to obtain fuel to decelerate the accumulating Entropic decay of themselves and the cosmos as a whole, and creators of True Art Is Angsty (including but not limited to: authors of Tragedy e.g. Gen Urobuchi, depressing Classical Music composers e.g. Ludwig van Beethoven, Blues musicians, Emos, and anybody who likes Neon Genesis Evangelion), whose Angst put them in an eternal state of exponentially accelerated entropy, rendering their immune systems extremely vulnerable (Truth in Television: depression and stress compromises the immune system, both directly and indirectly) and therefore forcing them to consume these tears forever, hence the continuous rarity. note
Production of sufficient quantities of Fluttershy tears was difficult at first and was the primary limiting factor in Blues production, which is why the popularity of Justin Bieber is plunging our universe closer to The End of the World as We Know It, but up until recently, eventually we hit on the idea of cloning her several thousand times and collecting the tears with a specialised catheter that fits under her eyes, along with Pinkamena Diane Pie and everybody else in the Torture Technician list and sexual offence registry hired to torture Fluttershy forever, along with a million clones of Angel Bunny, and a large blender. Administration of a Class A Amnesiac after every third or fourth session (similar to Procedure 110-Montauk) is also recommended for prevention of desensitization and cynicism from the familiarity with the procedure, which prevents optimum tears extraction. Personnel who express sympathy towards Fluttershy's plight and/or express a desire to rescue or sympathize towards Fluttershy WILL be met with immediate Lethal Termination for accelerating the entropy of this universe. No, putting the poor girl out of her misery is NOT an option. Neither is rendering her unconscious, comatose, or any form of pain relief, narcotic or analgesic to herself. She has to be completely sensitive and aware of what is going on in order for the extraction to work. And when all that does not work, we read fanfic to her.
- But you only need five clones of Madoka Kaname to do the work of over 9000 Fluttershy clones with very little provocation, and her tears produce only one-eighth the emissions! There's a reason why Incubators switched from normal Moe girls such as Fluttershy to harness the goddess Madoka instead! note
- I am utterly, utterly nauseated by the above: you can't get supernatural blues-playing talent drinking Bourbon with Fluttershy and Madoka Kaname tears! The very idea is Abhorrent! You drink them in a cocktail with Gin, Vodka or another clear sprit! No wonder you don’t get invited to Smokey Wilson’s annual Smurf-murder party! Madoka Kaname tears with Bourbon PFFT! Perhaps you'd like a brown paper bottle to drink them out of whist you’re at it?
- Don't Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer? Hey, has anybody seen Fluttershy and Chuck Norris at the same place at the same time?
- This actually isn't too bad now that most of the really horrible theories have been moved to the Archive page.
- And on that note, where do you think Applebloom came from? *looking at Applejack & Big MacIntosh*
- What about Scootaloo? Hey, maybe even Rainbow Dash isn't totally gay...
- The Scootaloo theory is Jossed to Tartarus and back, Brotherhooves Social explicitly states that they are not blood related. This of course, makes there sisterly relation even more sweet.
- But in the same way as it was for Michael Rosenbaum (of Smallville fame), that'll just make him more attractive to those with an interest. And the dirty dirty girls will like him no matter what.
- "And behold, the temple was torn in two from top to bottom, and the earth shook and the rocks were split..." - Mt. 27:51
.- As of 2012, we're still waiting on Shkler punishment to Britain.
- ahhh… so you’re volunteering on behalf of your younger sister, Miss Applejack? Well in that case May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favour.
Considering the Gratuitous German Theme Naming of the Witches, the Faust allusions, the occult symbolism all around Nazi Germany, how it met its absolute despair and Downfall on April 30 (known in Nazi occultism as Walpurgisnacht), the aforementioned Holocaust parallels, and the obvious fact that All Germans Are Nazis, and you know this one is true.
- Germany's original wish was to achieve national unity after centuries of existence as a collection of weak, squabbling kingdoms and principalities which often served as Western Europe's playthings, which it obviously got under Otto von Bismarck. Unfortunately, Bismarck's militaristic "blood and iron" policy and Imperial Germany's territorial wars through the late 19th century only gave them the stereotype of a might-makes-right quasi-barbarian state, hence all the dehumanizing baby-eating propaganda of them as shown on the
Unfortunate Implications main page. Thus Germany's Witch form came to embody just this. - Hitler's Time Travel Exemption Act is the same mechanism on why people who tried to stop both Walpurgis Night and/or Nazis through Time Travel (such as Homura) only end up failing and making things go From Bad to Worse.
- Or perhaps Hitler himself is Walpurgisnacht (his suicide on the date of Walpurgisnacht was just a coverup) and one of the extraordinary few who are able to become Puer Magi without needing fancy magical girl costumes, simply because he's so abundant in Angst. Walpurgisnacht also wants to turn the entire world into a drama, and Hitler views his life as a Wagnerian opera. Also, Nazi Alchemists conspired with Incubators to create a massive singularity of Equivalent Exchange-defying despair-energy known as the Holocaust, ala Fullmetal Alchemist (2003).
- Wait, if Nazi Germany was a Witch and Magical Girls battle Witches does this mean Britain, America, the USSR and possibly some of the nations who helped the allies were all Magical Girls who will one day become witches too?
- The USSR is the witch form of Russia. Specifically, Anastasia, who was a magical girl.
- The USSR being the witch form of Russia is interesting, as the Soviet Union had a regiment of female fighter pilots called the Night Witches.
- The USSR is the witch form of Russia. Specifically, Anastasia, who was a magical girl.
- The series of course will end with K1 falling into despair and becoming a Warlock.
- Kyubey is of course a male of his species, and of course he handles the females. Since this is Poison Oak Epileptic Trees, feel free to interject as many rape metaphors (surprise surprise) as you like for both series.
- Alternatively, the Incubators are a genderless species (which seems to be Word of God). Some appeal to girls with their normal appearance as Ridiculously Cute Critters. To appeal to heterosexual males, they disguise themselves as gorgeous women.
- Now that's just plain crazy-talk, even for this page.
- Actually, not really. Even in Real Life phenotypes can skip a generation. This is due to recessive alleles. Basically, some gene variants can be "covered up" by others, unless a person has two copies of the same variant. The magical possibilities of a fictional universe need to be taken into account as well. A child who doesn't look like their parents may be a changeling and/or Divine Child, if that is a possibility within the work's rules. Also, any setting can allow for some form of adoption: which may or may not be something anyone feels the need to talk about. Think Literature/Harry Potter.
- The chemicals that makes it are relatively harmless to human, though.
(too much craziness going on at once. System reboot)..- There's nothing that says it's even your imagination. You're welcome.
- You may now sink to your knees with despair.
- Good point, although Kyubey said he just wanted to counteract universal entropy, not just provide power to his planet. Unless he was lying about that, and I wouldn't put that past him.
- He's not lying, engineers do agree that reducing entropy would result in easier and more efficient power transmission to any planet.
- It gets worse. Eventually the tears production will be stopped by a skyrocketing in the girls committing suicides. To prevent this, we hook Moe girls forcefully into AM, where they live in a Real-ish simulation environment, but are also forced to endure eternal emotional torture and cry in pain over and over again, while those who are suicidal are forced to reincarnate and live forever. Also, when they grow up and get too desensitized and cynical to it (ala "witched out"), we use them for a form of reproduction that must not be named, since cloning has the disadvantage of low emotional stimulation. Alternatively, to eradicate the cynicism, we emulate Procedure 110-Montauk and administer to the subjects Class A Amnesiacs after every third or fourth session to prevent desensitization and maintain continual emotional response.
- This process obviously creates Madoka-style Witches, and the resulting rates of suicide, insanity and homicide among the general public leads world governments to create the Sybil System once Mind Reading is perfected Years Into The Future. The reason why one's Criminality Coefficient jumps up in the presence of a criminal is because Witch Kisses are actually contagious (much like how actual kisses can spread germs and bacteria).
- Alternatively, the Moe Tears Extraction System propels humanity into an age of technological renaissance that assimilates us into The Singularity and heralds our evolution into Incubators. The world of Madoka Magica takes place in the distant future populated by Human Aliens that we manipulated to resemble our miserable history in order to harvest more miserable Moe Girls.
- Because these events kept even worse things from happening.
- I'm just pointing out that those who believe in the Abrahamic God believe that He is both all-loving and has infinite wisdom, which means that they technically already believe this.
- Not necessarily. Loving someone often means letting them make a decision you know is wrong, or doing something you know is bad. People are notoriously bad at listening, especially ambitious would-be world conquerors and Emperors. Also, in many of these cases: yes something much worse really would have been likely if history had gone differently. There are many moments in history however when anything except what actually happened would have resulted in a much better outcome, and this is readily demonstrable. The conquest of the Americas comes to mind.
- Atheists don't (usually) believe an afterlife is a horrifying or nightmarish scenario, they just don't think it exists.
- So the only way to win is to be cool with whatever.
- The scene of the chatroom icons going amok in [1] is one more reminder by AM of Ted's fate.
- Seriously, it took this long for people to work out that Urobutcher is AM?
- The names sound almost identical; 'Red Green' is just 'Ed Gein' with some R sounds added.
- Red's flannel clothes and hat could be based in some way on Ed Gein's iconic flannel hat; likewise, Red's fanatical love of duct tape could be a subtle hint.
- Like Red, Gein lived the backwoods and fancied himself a handyman, but was bookish and effeminate as a child, and is implied to have been targeted by bullies.
- The show has many characters that are spoken of but never seen, including Red's wife Bernice. This could have been inspired by Gein's habit of hoarding corpses, including that of hardware store owner Bernice Worden (hers was the only murder for which he was successfully convicted); the classic film Psycho is notably inspired by Gein's crimes, and has a plot twist that makes a very similar association.
- Red hired his nephew Harold out of guilt, because he has a debt to his brother (another unseen character) that he cannot possibly repay; this could refer to Ed's brother who supposedly perished in a brush fire, but is believed to have been strangled to death by Gein. Harold could also represent the unnamed youth whose parents were close friends of Gein's (making him a de facto nephew of sorts to Gein), to whom Ed revealed his collection of human skin masks.
- Or all three? Oh, the horror...
She may have done this just for her interests to watch the hapless denizens of her universe struggling and suffering to solve the entropy problem, or maybe she did it for the same reason manufacturers supposedly build obsolescence into their products...so that something can purchase a new, "upgraded" universe every 6 billion years or so instead of every 20 billion.
And of course, who can forget the Endless Recursion Of Suffering suffered by the SOS Brigade suffering under Haruhi's celestial boot? There's Mikuru who is tortured and bullied by Haruhi for being Moe (like how the Moe factor of Puella Magi Madoka Magica is enhanced by its Crapsack World status). Of course, Homura and Yuki (both not-so-stoics who are also the most tortured sufferers of the hellish, Sisyphean Endless Recursion of Time, and are conscious about all of it) must be related. There's Kyon who tries to bear the brunt of Haruhi's wrath ala Jesus Christ.
We can even theorize that the being known as Haruhi Suzumiya, as the creator of this system, is the First and most powerful Witch, complete with Barriers, Mazes, Labyrinths (Closed Spaces and existence itself) and Familiars (the Celestials, with the SOS Brigade and the Incubators acting as enslaved pseudo-familiars to enforce her will). This Witch is so powerful as to become The Omnipotent, with Madokami as nothing before the power of Haruhi. And of course, the fundamental ingredient for mutating a Magical Girl or God into a Witch is melancholy, another name for grief or depression, and according to the title what does Haruhi have? Melancholy. So LOGICALLY....
- "But the Haruhi hardened Incubators' hearts, that they hearkened not unto the weeping and wailing of Puella Magi; as the Haruhi had spoken unto Kyon."
- Actually, Haruhi was never a Witch. She's responsible for the whole mess because she remade the universe that way either for amusement or some deal with a Lovecraftian outer god out of her conscious, unaltered free will rather than a Witch's infinite rage, thus making Haruhiahweh much more of a complete monster and this Tree much more poisonous.
- Oh god I think he just stroked the back on my neck!
- *THWACK*
They're picking up Joey… sorry SCP-1337… at the end of the week. End of next week at the latest.
Rachel is the Whore, Joey is the Athlete, Phoebe is the Fool, Ross the Scholar, and Monica the virgin.We work with what we have.
Rule Of...Four. Also, considering the first WMG on this page (that various Earth governments know about Kyubey and friends), this could go hand in hand with the CIA theory.
- It's all about Equivalent Exchange and The Multiverse. Because every sperm is sacred and a guy by masturbating is killing off billions of potential humans, God has to remove an equivalent number of animals in our era and ones before. And ladies, you're not off the hook either...when you masturbate, you're obviously not "in the mood" afterwards; thus cancelling out a potential human life. And your periods are obviously almost as destructive as male masturbation. And let's not even start on homosexuality (unless you're a lesbian and take a sperm donation) or asexuality. Think of the anime Bokurano as an example.
- Why periods? That's not something you can control. This implies that God is basically trolling himself.
- Well, why not? It's suggested FSTDT quotes are all true up above; a God who punishes humans for his own fuckups is perfectly in line with what those quotes demonstrate.
- Never mind masturbating. Even if they aren't being tossed away they're still dying. Any instant wherein you aren't actively devoting yourself to impregnating something, you are sinning and therefore killing entire species.
- Why periods? That's not something you can control. This implies that God is basically trolling himself.
- But, why didn't the Q already find out about it?
- The Q still let the Kyubey do their thing because they maintain order in secret while the alternative would be heat death of the universe. If Q meddled directly through his near-omnipotent powers, either he would get kicked out of the Continuum (and having his omnipotence stripped away), or it would simply accelerate the entropy and result in Discord.
- Alternatively, the whole trial and omnipotence things were just jokes for Q to get into Picard's pants. Why haven't Q eradicate the warlike races (e.g. Klingons, Cardassians, Dominion, etc.) if he was really serious on the trials?
- Alternatively, the Federation does power its starships mostly through an matter-antimatter reaction, but enhanced by Dilithium. The Poison oak is that the Federation forbids the deliberate replication of Dilithium itself exactly because it's made from Philosopher's Stones, which allows their starships to perform equivalent-exchange-defying alchemical feats such as matter replication. And "natural" sources of Dilithium are becoming scarce fast....
- The Q still let the Kyubey do their thing because they maintain order in secret while the alternative would be heat death of the universe. If Q meddled directly through his near-omnipotent powers, either he would get kicked out of the Continuum (and having his omnipotence stripped away), or it would simply accelerate the entropy and result in Discord.
Take that Hanna Barbera.
- It could be a combination of both this and drugs (drug abuse was rampant on the battle front).
- Their age of consent is 12, BTW. And Dr. Oldham is their pimp.
- Or worse...Twihards. See also, the meaningful name of "Twilight Sparkle".
- Actually, Caligula was the first brony. This was the guy who promoted his horse as consul, aka Prime Minister. Obviously a plot for Equestria's takeover of the Roman Empire, but was foiled by the rest of the Senate.
- And now you may die inside from the sickly sweet sugarpocalypse horror.
The happiness, friendship, magic and harmony generated by Equestria act like wishes, and by the Universal Thermodynamic Law of Equivalent Exchange and its partner the Second Thermodynamic Law of accelerating Entropy, fated sooner or later, with additional Incubator manipulation, to generate an equal amount of suffering, Break the Cutie moments and despair. "Hope and despair balance out to zero." It's like how in Goethe's Faust, should the Faust ever reach the highest state of happiness possible he will die and be consigned to eternal damnation in Hell, and how in Madoka Magica, Mami thinks "It's the first time I've been this happy while fighting" and very shortly afterwards she dies. Messily.
Fluttershy (Madoka, because of her self-sacrificial tendencies, low self-esteem, vulnerability to trauma, and a Moe-blob Nice Girl personality that would arouse Haruhi's sadistic love for Rape The Cutie) and Twilight Sparkle (Doctor Faustus, because of her obsession for knowledge) seem to be perfect targets for Incubator contracts. Twilight possesses a lot of Magical Potential yet also highly vulnerable to insanity and despair, with how she is a perfectionist who is consumed by desperation if she dares to commit the Thought Crime of thinking about failing Celestia ("Lesson Zero", with Twilight's morbid fear of "Magic Kindergarten") or failing her friends. There are, of course, lesser candidates. Rarity shall collapse into a Classic Greek Tragedy since her Fatal Flaws are Greed (despite her supposed title "Element of Generosity", she still likes a lot of gems and Discord exploits it), Envy (of Fluttershy's beauty and elegance, from the episode "Green Isn't Your Color") a little bit of Pride (her snobbish behaviour) and Ambition (to be an aristocrat and one of the most famous fashionistas in all of Equestria). The Incubators shall exploit Rainbow Dash's loyalties strained and torn, combined with her recklessness and desire to be with the Wonderbolts, just like what happened to Sayaka. For Pinkamena Diane Pie, once the "Party of One" incident repeats itself or she acquires incurable diabetes from her Cupcakes-based diet, the Incubators will take note. Apple Bloom's desperate purpose in life to obtain a Cutie Mark will be exploited by Incubators and result in horror for the rest of her Apple family once the truth is revealed, just like what happened to Kyoko's family.
Their loyalties and friendships will be twisted and played by the Incubators like a Stradivarius. Even the Elements of Harmony and their Friendship lessons would do negligible help to escape from such Tragic fates determined and supported by the higher laws of thermodynamics. Unless Madokami decides to return from non-existence and redeem the Ponies from their trauma in an ending reminiscent of Goethe's Faust. But then again, the Incubators' Metaphorically Rules Lawyers would point out that when Madokami made that one wish that led to her non-existence/ascension, she only said that "witches" should not exist, and she envisioned of her wish as applying only to witches created from human Puella Magi. Therefore, Madokami will remain behind the scenes, and Homura can't get the Ponies out of being screwed by the Incubators.
Of course, I just wrote this senseless tragedy-for-the-sake-of-tragedy instant-grimdark-just-add-Kyubey WMG because both MLP:FiM and the Pony POV Series remind me of Madoka Magica so much (for example, in the Pony POV Series, Nightmare Whisper/Princess Gaia/the Nightmare form of Fluttershy is basically Kriemhild Gretchen, the "witch of salvation, whose nature is mercy, and absorbs any life on the planet into her newly created heaven—her barrier"), but then again, what do you expect when the creator of this series is named after the legend that popularized the "deal with the devil" genre and inspired Puella Magi Madoka Magica?
- Furthermore, Princess Celestia is already a Puella Magi in secret, who once signed a contract with the Incubators to grant her the power of the three pony races, defeat Discord (a manifestation of Chaos, also known as Entropy, and his Chaotic version of Equestria looks like something straight out of a Witch's labyrinth) and to let Equestria enter an enlightened age of civilization and harmony, with her little Ponies as the dominant sapient species ruling over nature instead of remaining as naked and grazing in grasslands while eaten by predators. After all, the Incubators offer science, civilization and progress to the very species they enslave. Celestia became Eve to the Incubators' Tree of Knowledge. However, now despite her immortality and Puella Magi-enabled Alicorn powers, she desperately needs her regular dosages of Friendship lessons in order to delay herself from facing the consequences of her wish and mutating into a complete Nightmare Witch irreversibly forever. Oh, and the Elements of Harmony were once Soul Gems (probably from early Puella Magi who sacrificed themselves) or made from those or work like Grief Seeds, possibly to explain their one-time limited ability to purge Princess Luna before her Nightmare Moon grief can become completely irreversible Witchification (Luckily, Celestia put her in stasis on the Moon and gamble on the Elements of Harmony to do that one-time ability before it happens).
- And this is because...
Please, think of the meguca...
- And the Man behind the Corrupt Corporate Executives (or at least the Elite Psycho for Hire) will be Hannibal Lecter who will show off his Michelin-star culinary skills while preparing gourmet pony. He also corrupts Pinkamena Diane Pie, resulting in Cupcakes (Sergeant Sprinkles).
- Another result is that the series' Powers That Be will decide to retaliate, using their godlike abilities to drive humanity to near extinction - or completely destroying those apes.
- Unless Mankind uses science to clone and replicate those gods in a more controllable form, ala Neon Genesis Evangelion
- Jossed.
- But still turned out to be a shaggy dog story.
- But what's the bad stuff? A Zeroth Evil? The Silence? The Other Mother? A portal to Equestria?
- The song actually originated with Bokurano, not Vocaloid. Of course, Bokurano is about teenagers being forced to commit suicide plus murder and/or genocide, so this doesn't exactly make it less horrifying...
.This can go either way — knowing the Foundation, there's nothing ruling out the possibility of systematically raping D-Class to breed babies and use them for their "experiments". Or if there's no use for them, simply selling them to the mobsters they do business with, making a handsome profit on the side.
- And what of media in which people change the future by going into the past? Perhaps it has something to do with mass conservation of energy (since all universes are remade over and over again from the same material)...but just trying to wrap your head around it all is why this is another Poison Oak Tree.
- The multiverse concept of time travel is effectively this. Worse, perhaps: if a "you" returned home in your original universe, they would probably be a completely different person, and there would be no way to know. The real you, likewise, might return to find identical copies of their friends and family, but would never be able to prove they aren't the same people and could never see the "originals" again.
The Fridge Horror comes in when you realize that these animals, despite their near-sentience, are still treated at best as pets in the case of Pluto...and at worst as food. For instance, some Donald cartoons make jokes out of roast duck, and Golden Eggs features Donald gathering eggs guarded by a rooster who can speak English. And in some parts of the world, Pluto might also have ended up on a menu. In other words, despite these animals being their direct ancestors and being on the brink of full interaction with them, they're perfectly happy to enslave or eat them. Is this how we would've treated Neanderthals had they survived?
- It's even worse in the Looney Tunes-verse. Here, various animals are undeniably at the same intelligence level as humans...and yet it's perfectly legal for humans to enslave, hunt and eat them, but not for animals to do the same to humans.
Eventually, however, Fox and Fara discovered their family status - likely by a time at which point they already had a more intimate relationship. Disgusted by the unwitting Brother–Sister Incest they agreed to part ways.Canon Welding results in this occurence: Fox McCloud eventually arrives on Sauria, without a girlfriend, and leaves the planet with one that looks highly different from his mother.
about Hideaki Anno's intent for making Evangelion. Well, Urobuchi also has the same opinions about otakudom. (Certainly his recent Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet outlines what he thinks of NEET and hikikomoris, which he stated right in his intro to the anime.)With Madoka, Gen didn't just want to retell the story of Faust with magical girls, he wanted to smack otakus in the face. He showed how how becoming an adolescent superhero would be pretty terrifying when you have to actually fight Lovecraftian Horrors all the time forever. Timid yet good-hearted Madoka is not supposed to actually "be" you, in a sense. She's actually the ideal selfless Moe Messianic Archetype Goddess we all worship and masturbate on. Homura is YOU; The emotionally stunted monomaniac who's so emotionally dependent upon her pink-haired Moe-ssiah waifu that she'd rather "just run away" back in time from all the suffering around her, rather than accept her new reality, and then covers up her true geeky, incompetent self with a fake badass Mary Sue air, ala Self-Insert Fan Fic.
Also, remember how these moe cuties are actually undead and had to feed off each others' souls to survive? That concept was supposed to be deconstructionist parallel to moe archetype Rei Ayanami's reality; how Anno wanted to point out how a completely submissive girl with absolute zero self-worth should be somewhat creepy in real life, not cute. And how Madoka technically doesn't exist anymore at the end? That's Urobuchi trying to bring the message home that no, your 2D waifus aren't real. Try to find a "3DPD".
Of course, like with Evangelion, the impact completely backfired and the "Megucas" all became moe cultural icons, yielding plenty of kid-and-otaku-friendly merchandise (as well as...less kid-friendly stuff), including some rather questionable materials (Charlotte inner tubes and Soul Gem bubble bath packs, anyone?). But what really pissed off Gen was how all the suffering became what people liked the most about the series, like sadistic Torture Porn Ryona fetishists and Tragedy fans, as well as people hailing him as "the Prince of DARKNESS" and the like.
So...first he co-wrote Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet. Reviews have mostly been well below those of Madoka (in about the 7-8/10 range, with 7 being about the average rating on My Anime List, for example). It had a rather cobbled-together, less-than-coherent storyline, which makes sense since five different people actually wrote the episodes besides him. (Gen wrote the first and last episodes and served as "script consultant" for the rest.) On top of that, its main plot twist was perhaps a bit too similar to that of Madoka ("The monsters were PEOPLE!!!") His reputation on anime sites such as My Anime List was nigh-indestructible immediately after Madoka; 2.5 years later, either because of Gargantia or just because of the time past, his ratings have gone down somewhat.
And as mentioned in that Evangelion essay, End (and perhaps Evangelion 3.0) was basically Anno taking the anger over the TV show's somewhat positive ending and him saying, "Oh, you want more emotional torture porn tragedy ryona? I'VE GOT YOUR EMOTIONAL TORTURE PORN TRAGEDY RYONA RIGHT HERE!!!" Madoka Movie 3 will be Gen saying and doing the same thing. The whole point of Gargantia's happy ending was for us to let our guards down and think, "Oh, he's changed. He took up meditation or maybe some happy pills. We don't have to fear his casts being killed off anymore." Gen Urobuchi also hates you. Whether improbably uplifting or soul-crushingly depressing, Movie 3 will be destined to generate in at least part of the fanbase the reaction: "How disgusting." And whaddaya know, Gen himself cryptically says that the movie "may divide the fans".
- This makes far too much sense to be an epileptic tree.
- This isn't really a Poison Oak Epileptic Trees, since every character ever having autism is hardly a bad thing.
- NO REPRESENTATION FOR YOU!!!
- It gets better. Madoka knew this would happen. After getting a glimpse behind the veil, she got smashed to dust and then went mad from the revelation. She then came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth preserving a universe that required this to keep on ticking.
- Which would make her more of an all-merciful Messiah to liberate us from this hellish existence.
- And the fact that Psycho-Pass and Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet are also getting continuations will only increase the exponents due to awkward creator crossovers. "One link to join it all again", indeed.
- And, sadly, it probably is.
- No, because those Time Lords and Daleks will be Exterminatused for HERESY.
- This is probably redundant with the "God Is Evil is Truth in Television" epileptic tree above.
- Jossed, thankfully.
; his mother gave birth young and illegitimately, and his grandparents claimed they were his parents. Renge also seems to exhibit some behaviors which usually seem cute but veer off into slight creepiness (e.g. her song about a doctor in despair, and the other one about grooming the rabbits...and adding some dynamite).- This makes... too much sense. It also explains why French Fries is so messed up in the head; anyone would be that screwed up if they ever met the Garbage Pail Kids!
- Admittedly, this does bring up some rather unpleasant Fridge Horror, since it implies that the Garbage Pail Kids actually exist in the DARPG universe.
On top of that, nearly everyone who was Killed Off for Real or suffered from Chuck Cunningham Syndrome ended up in the Black Lodge.
- The real reason we never saw Spy after his supposed death is because he is currently trapped in The Black Lodge. He somehow entered it by mistake or was pulled in while trying to sneak away from Ata's massacre of Heavy, Scout, and Soldier, and he is working with Special Agent Dale Cooper to try and find a way out; just so long as his body isn't possessed by BOB...
- After his creative spark was launched at the Darkitect, Rex became trapped in Twin Peaks The Black Lodge. He is currently trapped in the lodge with Spy and Agent Cooper. Unfortunately, he knows that his chances of getting out of the lodge are very slim, as his creative spark is now in the hands of the Man from Another Place.
- Kotua and Databoard went to The Black Lodge. What? It explains why they simply vanished off the planet without a single trace or even the faintest clue as to what happened. Somehow Kotua and Databoard entered the Black Lodge, and the reason nothing has been heard from them since is because they're still trapped there.
- Axle is trapped in The Black Lodge. We have no idea what happened to him at all. At one point he was a prominent figure in the game and then he vanished.
- The old Atton Rand is trapped in The Black Lodge. Clearly, the only reason John Alexander Hitchcock has been adding so much WMG to this page all centered around an obscure reference that nobody gets is because he is actually sending out a plea for help. By drawing enough attention to the Black Lodge, he hopes that someone will investigate and, eventually, discover that the Black Lodge is real. And the old Atton Rand - the silly one, the one who had Zenna as his primary character, the one who was willing to forgo realism in favor of having fun - is actually trapped in the Black Lodge and has been trying to escape. This explains why Atton Rand had such a sudden shift in personality towards the end of the original Dino Attack RPG, since that is thei point where he entered the Black Lodge. Everything since then (including but not limited to Rotor, Trigger, the Star Wars hate, the Lovecraft obsession, and more) has been Atton Rand's attempts at getting our attention so that someone can rescue him, and since we clearly haven't gotten the message, he has had no other choice but to spam this WMG page with constant annoying references to the Black Lodge until we're more sick of it than we were of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Captain Ersatz squad, forcing us to investigate and, eventually, rescue him from the Black Lodge.
Finally, (inspired by this doujin), Homura made a doll of Madoka (The doll who would soon be Charlotte). She always brought her doll of Madoka with her, as it was her only console in life to be able to smile. However, her oppressors took notice, and snatched the Madoka doll away from her. She begged to do anything just to have her precious Madoka back, but, bullies being bullies, tore it apart. Like Lucy from Elfen Lied, this ultimately provoked her from being a Shrinking Violet into a violent attempt to get back against them, but they eventually subdued her, and the Alpha Bitch in charge ordered them to "teach her a lesson". Utterly and completely humilated in front of everybody else, the crying Homura attempted suicide numerous times, but there was always a soothing voice that was stopping her from doing so. The voice, Homura thought, was that of Madoka.
This finally completed her descent into delusion and schizophrenia, obsessed with what she saw as her one and only Messiah, Madoka. Her three friends, Mami, Kyoko and Sayaka, at first tried to reach out and provide support, but when her interactions with them grew more and more erratic, delusional and violent, they eventually started moving away from her, and she in turn grew colder towards them. After she became murderously violent towards school staff and everybody else, claiming she wanted to keep "Madoka" safe, she was eventually placed in a state asylum. Junko and Tomohisa are her two main attending physicians (as a single working mother, Junko occasionally has to bring along her toddler son), and Kyubey is her psychiatrist.
Her teachers back in her former school lament her loss, especially since, despite her erratic behavior, she had a high intelligence and seemed to be showing much aptitude as an artist, creating elaborate Warholesque collage pastiches. While most institutions encourage their charges to express themselves through arts and crafts, all access to art supplies have unfortunately been denied to Homura, as several of her pictures feature her violently torturing and murdering "Kyubey".
And for the records, "Madoka"'s image was inspired by the classic magical girl Magical Princess Minky Momo, possibly including Momo's tragic death.
It's obvious he traveled back in time to 2004 to go to 2008 to play guitar without picking the strings and stuff. Also, his song Jordan was used in Guitar Hero in 2006 but the song actually released in Praxis as Vertebrae in 2004! Which means he went back in time two years to remake the song to release for Guitar Hero. Plus, how can one man pick and finger that fast? 15.42 notes per second? It's obvious he's slowing down time to make it seem like he's picking that fast. And his side project, Death Cube K, is obviously just noises he took from the ambience of space! So that proves it because of reasons.- “I felt a greet disturbance in the internet…It was as if millions of insufferable nerds cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. ..“
Freezer burn may be responsible for some of his more questionable decisions in the past half-century, like all those horrible Direct to Video sequels, the Disney Channel's ongoing Network Decay, opening California Adventure as a separate park, and the 4Kids-style translation and localization of their dub of Doraemon. And he still lives on a diet of Cuban boys.
Keiichi has just been brainwashed all this time. And it is in fact canon that the deities are actually Eldritch Abominations who take A Form You Are Comfortable With when dealing with mortals.
"Hansel" could've actually been a girl, after all. And of course both duos have plenty of Incest Subtext going on.
This could be either a Heartwarming Moment (in that the twins get a somewhat more pleasant chance at life), or a Poison Tree (in that the two latest Disney Princesses were once...those two).
- Confirmed.... aw, shit.
- Terry Pratchett is charting the history of a planet that used to run solely on magic. In the beginning there was a vast surfeit of it and nobody thought it was ever going to run out. But just as Earth is running low on oil, the Disc is running out of easily harvested magic. This is kept as a closely-guarded secret by a select few - Vetinari, the Wizards, Margolotta, the Diamond King. But as magical power ebbs, the Wizards are slowly, surely, with little fuss, becoming men of science. (Ponder Stibbons is more technocrat than mage). The Disc is now a place running on steampunk science. Witness the Clacks taking the place of scrying, and the birth of steam railways with nothing overtly magical about them. Dwarf "devices" appear to be things of advanced if lost science, rather than magic. Are we being set up for a time when the magic goes completely? Where dwarves become nothing more than short humans, vampires become merely easily sunburnt humans with prominent teeth, trolls mutate into professional rugby players, and golems become mechanical robots.... the trend across the course of the novels points to something like this; it might alternatively explain why the latest Discworld novels are less satisfying reads than earlier ones.
- This already must have happened in OUR universe! (Proof: all mythology ever. Especially Irish and Ladinian.)
Either that, or they just hired Kyubey. (Yes, in this case, Kyubey made a contract with SCP.)
Business was a bit slow at one point. There weren't enough Eldritch Abominations lurking around at one point, so they had to generate their own.
If Godoka has to dispatch Homucifer, despite what the trolls say, she won't take pleasure in it. Rather, it will so upset her that she will finally cross the Despair Event Horizon and turn into something like an EXISTENCE-wide black hole. And if Homucifer wins...Since Godoka is connected to all magical girls past, present, and future, as well as the Incubators who are connected to Human Civilization in its entirety, if Homucifer destroys her, it will retroactively eliminate even Incubators and bring on not only the nonexistence of Human Civilization, but also instantaneous universal heat death.
- Alternately, we didn't accept the Choice because of the Incubators' influence. They knew that the only truly meaningful answer to the question of entropy involves sending children into spirals of despair, which clashes horribly with the MO of wizardry, and so they warned proto-humanity not to accept gifts from the Powers - any of the Powers, up to and including the Lone One. Earth isn't just sevarfrith, it's aresh-hav - except that, because it's got both magical and alien protectors, the Lone One isn't about to go near it, either.
Oh well. So long, and thanks for all the cake.
- To sap the manhood from us blokes.
- To set Bronies against the ravening hordes of anti-Bronies and then Divide and Conquer. Step Three: Profit.
Proof? Well, as any veteran of AlternateHistory.com will know, it's already happened on that once-esteemed forum with the Pony Wars. It will return to engulf the entire Internet and thence, the world!
note
, so it must be true!- The Black Death, the Spanish Flu Epidemic, and such other catastrophes may have been caused by similar Walpurgis-type events.
- What about the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic? Was that also caused by a Walpurgis-type event?
- The African "Savanna Girl" briefly seen in Episode 12 may have been her original human form.
And worst of all, in whatever galaxy/universe/dimension it was broadcast in, it was framed as a comedy.
- And it was produced by Team Danganronpa and/or Junko Enoshima as a sequel series to Danganronpa, after the disastrous ending of season 53. Then the disastrous ending to The Movie happened, so now they are wiping the slate clean again to set the stage for a virtual Magical Girl death game...
Eventually, everyone who isn't asexual shall be thrown into the Lake of Fire where the worms dieth not, and the asexuals shall usher Paradise free from the depredations of sexual sins. But they too will become bored of being the only life form on Earth, and will go to every planet ever until they discover some more.
The species' asexual members will, after thousands of years, discover that they have godly powers. Rinse and repeat.
Also, there's no way for anyone to prove me wrong, because time travel doesn't exist yet.
- Though this was already pitched to the world in the past, though with lesbians instead of asexuals.
The possibly autistic Renge always retains some cryptic but persistent memories of this, hence her slight reluctance to leave her hometown.
In Rebellion he boosted Homura's powers to seal Madoka's powers and become Homucifer when he found that Madoka's new universe was producing less power.
Because of regardless of who or where you are, we are all kings of awesome.
- So wouldn't that technically mean Peach is a fraction of Bowser? And Bowser kidnaps her a lot, and intends to marry her, so...
.So, it's well established and confirmed that Anthea, Concordia, and especially N are just adopted. But that (and other reasons) doesn't mean he didn't have any biological children.
It's also the reason the protagonist's mom looks so young.
She was only a teenager when it happened.
With a final confrontation in which Madoka will destroy Homura, Homura will destroy Madoka, they will destroy each other along with the universe, they will dissapear from existence to allow the universe to survive or they will be the only human survivors left after their battle. If only one of the two survives, the surviving one will fall into despair. Alternatively the universe explodes into pieces and they get transported to pre second world war Germany.
- He deliberately took characters from The Flash (2014), the most popular show in the Arrowverse, who are integral to its mythos just to cripple its momentum in favor of his shows. Specifically, the characters Captain Cold, Heat Wave, Reverse-Flash, Captain Boomerang, Grodd, and most importantly Wally West. It does not help that Cold, Thawne, and Boomerang were all apparently Killed Off for Real once they made the jump. The fact that Guggenheim is infamous for openly bastardizing canon also does not help. Thankfully, Guggenheim is finally removed as show runner after Arrow Season 6 and Legends Season 3, and even better when both Wally and Grodd survived that season of Legends.
- The fandom-wide hatred of Olicity reached critical mass in the aftermath of the Crisis on Earth-X crossover, and even dragged in the rest of the Arrowverse fandom into it. Practically anyone who wasn't a hardcore Olicity shipper was bashing the pairing and/or Felicity, especially WestAllen fans. It got so bad that some people began to speculate that the reason the "Schism" arc in the second half of Arrow Season 6 happened was so all the non-Felicity fans would direct their hatred at New Team Arrow instead.
*GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASP*
You can thank me later.
Stoat eats birds? HE'S EVIL! Rat is farming peacefully? HE KILLED THE POOR BEAST IN CHARGE OF THE FARM! Fox fishing peacefully? SHE IS DOING IT EVILLY!
Martin was highly racist about "Vermin" because he was 'enslaved' by the bad kind of fox, and he had bad luck and ran into another "Vermin" who he instantly said was evil due to childhood traumatic experience, killed him,and made up a lie to justify the means. He was EVIL. Evil! that's all he had to say! "He was attacking an innocent mouse! what else was I to do then to slay him?"
He came across a Wild cat who was simply playing a "game" of King of the Hill with a castle with a group of woodlanders, fed them LIES about the Wild cat to, again, justify why he must kill her. Using his mastery of speech, which he excelled in after a 'crusade against evil' spree of lies and hatred, he then got his ass handed to him only to survive because of the plot or by whatever deity is sponsoring him.
The stories are all LIES told by the main character, who was told MORE lies to by the Abbey-Beast to fuel the vicious cycle of hatred in Martin's happy little Abbey!
In Veil's case, he was the son of a "Vermin" and therefore treated like crap and probably not fed or taken care of properly; therefore, he 'Stole' food and played 'tricks', which were not For the Evulz but for attention. He is dying; he NEEDS food, water, and friends. In the end, he did something that a beast other than woodlanders from around the Abbey saw, so they could not change that tidbit in the story; instead, they twist and turn the words and actions of the poor little guy to make him seen as people have said 'Horrid little bastard' so if somebeast from that area reads it, they will assume its the 'Real' Story and thus spread the facts. Even though grandpa and Nana were there and they are still alive to tell the tale that they saw him do something for the greater good, they lied just for a good story and Veil was a 'Horrid little bastard'.
Look at other "Vermin" in the story: the odds, the unbelievable feats against them in favor of the good guys, they are IMPOSSIBLE!
This is to embellish the views of the Cult and spread the glorious word of Martin! and you fell for it, hook, line and sinker.
So, who will you be cheering for? The good guys, or the 'Vermin'?
- Um... do keep in mind, that Woodlanders fear and judge vermin for a reason. Namely because they DO do evil things. Throughout the series Vermin kill and enslave whenever they can sometimes just for the heck of it, and for fun. That is "unjust prejudice?" I admit you can't judge all vermin, but Woodlanders don't take any chances, so vermin have to earn their trust before obtaining their friendship, which has happened a few times.
- I think the original poster means, it's a "Hobbit" kind of writing. In the original The Hobbit, the Gollum scene was later retconned to be Bilbo retelling the scene to make himself look better. (Because Tolkien realized when writing The Lord of the Rings it contradicted Gollum's character) The original poster is trying to say that, the books are from Martin's point of view. Though I don't know if s/he is actually being serious or not.
Most of the videos hint at the possibility that society has descended into a chaotic, Might Makes Right shithole.
First, let's talk about the educational system: In quite a few videos, characters might be speaking in broken English, with stuff like "This is only place I can found". Some other videos show the troublemakers being expelled for things like getting a math question wrong or coming last in a swimming race, while other videos have random students get yelled at for a wrong answer to a math question. Therefore, the Doylist explanation for this is the user's light grasp on the language, but the Watsonian explanation must be that the entire society is illiterate.
Now, let's get to the point where we address the elephant in the room: Are you a good guy? You can do no wrong, and you're even justified in executing people if they're "bad" enough. Are you a known troublemaker (Macusoper, Warren Cook, Alvin Hung) or a "baby show" character of any kind? You deserve punishment for just about anything, up to and including your name. Plotagon even allows the video maker to include physical violence, which can lead to things like being slapped raw for doubting your parents. Other cases include a Morton's Fork where the troublemakers can be grounded no matter what they do, so it's no wonder they solve all their problems with violence; it is all they have ever known.
- Don't forget Gacha Life videos!
- Original poster's addendum: According to Season 2, it's revealed that ghosts who were too violent were condemned to the Flow as well, so it's entirely plausible all of the above were punished posthumously after all. However, the horror still stands, since the Season 1 ending means Molly and Scratch just set them all free.
with a lot of proofs. However, many interpreted her design as a woman bound upside-down (but not in a sexual way, as the picture is more Fan Disservice). When you discover she is Caroline after her brain was uploaded against her will, it doesn't seem so farfetched. On a funnier note, when Wheatley takes control of the facility, he doesn't have any bound or free "arm"
◊ on the mainframe, representing that he has no bounds (as he has no real purpose to run the facility other than the satisfaction of his ego), but also no control, as he has no clue of what he needs to do and the Aperture center is falling apart under his rule.Ness ate too many deep-fried twinkies before bed, causing him to have this horrible nightmare where he was some blond kid named Lucas living on some island in the middle of the ocean after the world ended, and that his dad was Clint Eastwood. Then Pokey (now calling himself "Porky" for some reason) came by with his army of pig people, killed his mom (who was a brunette now), kidnapped some orange-haired kid who was apparently his brother and turned him into a Darth Vader-esque cyborg, and took over the island. So after some guy in a dress tried to drown him, he went on an adventure to pull a bunch of sewing needles out of the ground with some brown dog that was apparently his, an older girl who forced him to take a shower, and a self-proclaimed thief who walked with a limp. And Dr. Andonuts was there and he was being forced to make monsters out of the local animals, including this one giant, indestructable, magenta demon-looking thing that eats people. He woke up just as he pulled the last needle and some dragon started to rise out of the ground. When he recounted the dream to Paula, she simply told him to stop eating deep-fried twinkies before bed.- He was once just an ordinary stuffed bunny that belonged to D.W. until her imagination brought him to life, in the same vein that Bud's imagination brings his toy dinosaur, Rapty, to life as a life-sized dinosaur. As for why Molly sees him as her brother, well, it's because D.W. imagined him that way; a boy she has a crush on who also happens to be the brother of Molly, thus giving her a chance to connect with another one of Arthur's tormentors through him. Imaginary Friends in this series are shown to have Reality Warper powers, so it wouldn't be hard at all for him to make himself actually related to Molly.
- Pieces of evidence for this theory include:
- James has Black Bead Eyes even when he's not wearing his glasses (as shown in "Night of the Tibble"), which is definitely a very stuffed animal-esque feature. Also, in that same episode, Timmy Tibble actually "mistakes" him for a stuffed animal.
- In "Kiss and Tell", D.W. seems to think of James as her "prince". For a little girl going through her Princess Phase, it is only natural that she would use her toys to act out Prince Charming fantasies. James may have been the toy she cast in the role of Prince Charming. Also, in "D.W. Unties the Knot", D.W. chooses James as the groom for her dream wedding "it should be someone who's good at doing what I tell him." It only makes sense that James's submissive personality is so perfect for D.W., because he was literally made for her, by her.
- James has very few roles in the show that don't also involve Molly and/or D.W. in some way, which would make sense if you assume his entire reason for being alive is, literally, his connection to those two.
- Pieces of evidence for this theory include:
- Minions: The Rise of Gru, has Nun-Chuck, a supervillainess who apparently is a former nun. Now already, why a nun would become a villain is Fridge Horror. But at one point, Nun-Chuck prays and levitates into the air while an angelic choir sings, meaning she still can invoke God's favor. Think about that: God will continue to empower evildoers so long as they continue to kiss His butt.
deleted scene indicates that Jesse took a bullet during his final confrontation with Kenny and his cohorts and that he faints before he can make it into Ed's store. What happened afterwards is that Jesse bled to death and Ed, not wanting to attract police attention, drove Jesse's body into the desert and buried him. The ending of the film (him making it to Alaska) was just a Dying Dream and a metaphor for him crossing into the afterlife. At least he is finally reunited with his two-woman goth and milf harem. Rest in power, Cap'n Cook.. All while speaking in their gibberish and getting into slapstick, which may actually make them even more disturbing.- Unlike Gru, it's been established that the minions were never very competent, and that they usually killed off the villains they worked for as a result. It's still pretty disturbing that they would have been completely willing to help all these people, though.
- First, what do we know about Talon? He's a farmer who owns a horse ranch and a Cucco farm where he lives with his daughter Malon and his farmhand Ingo, he looks a lot like video games' most recognizable character, and his medal looks like a famous turtle monster for some reason. While this can be thought as a cameo, some have another interpretation. Talon is often surprised sleeping around Hyrule Castle or in the Cuccos' barn, and after he's fired from his ranch, he never stops sleeping until you find the blue Cucco.
- Second, what is the Mario franchise? A Constructed World with fantasy creatures which revolves around a tiny and chubby man (and his slightly taller and skinnier brother) saving a pretty princess from a turtle monster who constantly finds a way to kidnap her.
- What are the common points between the two? That's simple: Talon raises his daughter alone and gives contradictory explanations about his wife, seeing her either in a Gerudo or a Goron face. He seems to see her everywhere not because he's stupid, but because he's struggling with depression after becoming a widower: this is the reason why he's sleeping a lot, and in his dreams, he created an escape world where he's a near-perfect hero (explaining why Mario is a Vanilla Protagonist) and where he constantly saves his wife (Peach) from a monster (Bowser) who always finds a new way to get her: no matter how many times he saves the Princess, she's kidnnapped again because any attempt to cheat death is an illusion.
- Another important point is Luigi, or rather Ingo: Talon knows that his farmhand is the one who holds the ranch on his shoulders, but he also doesn't want to lose it. This is the reason why Luigi is stronger than Mario in the games, but also more insecure; Talon is reassuring himself by imagining his worker as stronger, but also more insecure than he is in this dreamworld. When he meets Link, he tends to mix Luigi!Ingo with the fairy boy as a potential heir for his ranch and a possible suitor for his daughter Malon, who takes the appearance of spin-off Princess Daisy (the Super Mario Land one being another interpretation of his deceased wife instead), and he gives Ingo the "role" of Waluigi instead.
- In addition, El Camino was a Dying Dream Walt had imagining what happened to Jesse after he left the compound. What really happened afterwards was that Jesse killed Walt's family in retaliation for destroying his meth empire, fled to Mexico to take over the cartel (adiós, dopehead), and sell poorly bootlegged anime DVDs on the side to honor the memory of his fallen best BFF forever Todd.
Bill also happens to be deeply connected to the Calamity Guardian, Mewmans, F.O.W.L, Wander, the Flow of Failed Phantoms, and many, many more, all of them also being instruments of his vengeance.
So we all know how Spamton is a Sir Swears-a-Lot with more than one Double Entendre to his name ("ENL4RGE YOURSELF", "Hochi Mama", the list goes on). He also claims that he and Kris want "HOTSINGLE" and that one of the perks of freedom is "SOMETIMES IN THE MORNING, A LITTLE [Hyperlink Blocked]". Hyperlink Blocked could stand for Choices, but it could also stand for LOVE, (which fits with Spamton's Slut-Shaming of Noelle on the Weird Route, claiming she and Kris were making [Hyperlink Blocked]), which means that Spamton says that while free, you can have morning sex. When saying this, Spamton does a grasping gesture with his arms out, which looks like… something, alright. This also fits with Spamton being an ex-celebrity. In fictionland, rich, popular guys will often have a lot of Ms Fanservices at their service. When he went from Riches to Rags, he lost all of it.
Where does Tasque Manager fit into this? Well, even ignoring her, uh, design, Spamton NEO's attacks have the same ID as Tasque Manager's, and the Mannequin reduces damage from both Spamton and Tasque Manager, which implies that they have some history with eachother. Adding that with the thing mentioned above, it seems like there may have been some benefits in their relationship.
Yes, this was pretty cursed. Let Us Never Speak of This Again.
When you defeat Spamton violently in a Normal Route or after having aborted a Weird Route, he will mention the ThornRing, either telling Kris that he could have sold them this item earlier in the former situation, or sold a second one in the latter.
In the Normal Route, Spamton claims he wants freedom, but this word can have many definitions depending on the person you're asking: freedom of movement for someone who was locked away their whole life or the abolition of oppressive structures are two definitions among many others. But for a character like Spamton, who knows that the world he lives in is a game, but who's too frustrated to think outside the box, "freedom" can also mean "power".
In the Weird Route, where Kris is under the SOUL's control and Noelle becomes their weapon, Spamton has nothing to fear and can concrete his plan. In the Normal Route, however, Spamton knows Kris is not powerful enough to set chaos in Cyber World, so he takes a more sneaky approach by exploiting their fear of becoming the puppet of the SOUL, and by ensuring himself that Susie and Ralsei are not there, as they could call Kris out of his scam. His desire to steal the SOUL is not only to have an infinte source of energy, but also to cheat death and find the better approach against Queen and her forces to conquer Cyber World and take his revenge.
The goal is not to say that Spamton doesn't have real issues nor that his desire to become NEO is to recover some mental health, but I think that his speech about freedom is mostly an act where, as any good salesman, he has to be convincing anytime he's watched. His defeat in the Normal Route may be the realization that he's really weak, and so that his dream of becoming a [BIG SHOT!] is dead, so he prefers to "leave" with dignity.
However, as she grew up and saw the world around her becoming bitter and crazier, she snapped and became a loon known as Sticks who (because of her contentious with Fang and Eggman) sees secrets shenanigans everywhere, and whose only contact with reality is her friends (especially Amy). Don't ask me how she went from reptilian to mammal though.
- Thomas: A kind yet sometimes sassy young man from South London who died in a car accident on the 9th of October, 1984.
- Percy: A young boy from America with cancer who died in 1999.
- Gordon: An arrogant Victorian-era London underworld figure who died at the hands of one of his own men in 1889.
- Henry: A man with a recurring heart problem who died in 1977.
- James: A Jerk Jock who was shot to death in 1991.
- Edward: A man who never took a day off in 50 years, yet collapsed from a heart attack in 1980.
- Emily: A Scottish socialite who died in the sinking of the Titanic.
- Diesel: A Cold War-era Soviet spy who was executed for perjury in 1964.
Given that the finale implies that House was a far more sinister figure than New Vegas envisioned him as, the commitment of the showrunners to the "anti-corporate satire" of the series regardless of the debate around whether Bethesda truly abandoned the satire or not, the fact that the various experiments were divided up between the various companies, and the contempt House had for democracy despite the fact that the US pre-war was a fascistic oligarchy, it could very well be that the most horrifying Vault Experiment ever conceived was done so by him to create a situation that would "discredit" democracy and justify the existence of more heavy-handed rule in the Mojave using the data that the Vault gave him.
Why wouldn't I want this to happen? Even if Mr.House's seeming complicity in the end of the world wasn't as extensive as the other corporate leaders, it will decisively destroy a good chunk of the nuances surrounding this character in favor of reducing him to a mustache-twirling corrupt corporate CEO, except one behind one of the most horrifying atrocities in the Fallout franchise and opportunistic enough to take advantage of the nuclear plot to have an excuse to gather data to "discredit democracy" even if he may or may not be genuinely appalled at the thought of ending the world.
