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alt title(s): Selfcest
Oh give me a clone, just a clone of my own With its Y chromosome changed to an X And when we're alone, just me and my clone We'll both think of nothing but sex — Isaac Asimov
It's a simple tale: Person photocopies self, or travels to an Alternate Universe, or another time. Person meets self. Both selves make beautiful music together. After all, what better person to be most intimate with?
Probably more prevalent in fanfiction than in original work, but it's out there. Technically, any intimacy between a character and their Enemy Without will be Selfcest, too.
Expect much argument amongst the characters and/or fans as if this qualifies as actual sex, incest, or masturbation.
Also known as selfcest, autoincest, or incesturbation. See also Opposite Sex Clone, Twin Threesome Fantasy, My Own Grampa.
In Real Life, a person who would like to do this is a Narcissist.
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Examples
Anime and Manga
- Ranma ½: Both the manga and anime explored this, though in different manners:
- The anime filler story, which came first, created a female-only (and demonic) copy of Ranma that tried to seduce him to steal his life force, causing him to stumble around zombie-like during the day.
- The manga version centered on a haunted mirror, which created identical copies of whoever looked into it. Since the mirror had trapped the spirit of a girl who had longed to have a boyfriend, any resulting copies would then chase anyone of the opposite sex, and try to date them. When a mirror-copy of girl-Ranma was made, she was immediately smitten with boy-Ranma, and she tried to bed him on her very first night of existence. At the end of the story, a male clone was created accidentally, and both copies happily hooked up (since it would take another week for the seal on the mirror to be fixed, whatever they did afterwards belongs in the realm of imagination.
- Pictured: In Yes! Precure 5, when each Pretty Cure besides Dream is forced to face an Enemy Within while wearing the Mask of Despair. Cure Lemonade faces a creepily affectionate version of her civilian self.
- Also, a sticker set for the second season exists pairing each girl up with her implied or stated love interest: Dream with Coco and Komachi with Nuts, both of which became canon in season one; Karen with Milk, which can't be outright stated but is pretty darn close; Urara and Rin with Syrup, both of which are currently implied (but Urara seems to be winning, despite Toei earlier saying otherwise... Rin has bad luck with boys, doesn't she?), and Kurumi with... Milk again. Herself. Yeah.
- Happens in the second episode of Kaiba; the woman who helped the titular character sneak onboard a spaceship copies her own memories into his body and the two of them have a little fun together... which is quite disturbing given the series' surreal and childlike artstyle. Then the copy kills the original for fear of being deleted.
- Technically, the implied attraction between Madlax and her progenitor/creator/original self Margaret would be this, seeing how she is her Enemy Without of sorts.
- In Hentai manga Alice in Sexland, an artisan created a cupboard that can create a perfect male (and perfectly horny) clone of its female user.
- More like a "futanari" version than male, but yeah.
- In Katekyo Hitman Reborn, the relationship between Mukuro and Chrome tends to feel like this. Their names are actually anagrams of each other, and they look incredibly similar (other than the gender difference), coupled with the fact that they share a body...
- Let's face it - most people feel Tsuna and Kyoko
are the closest thing to this without really being related.
- And then there are all those fanworks that pair up the boys with their "ten years later" versions of themselves...
Comics
- Jamie Madrox (a second-string X-affiliated character) has the power of self-duplication, which allows him to split into multiple physical copies of himself, sometimes with distinct personalities. Guess what trope comes up in about 90% of Madrox-related Fanfic.
- One of Madrox's duplicates brings out the subject when he's sitting bored at a bar. He indicates he'd rather continue to be bored.
- Related, and lacking its own trope: the Madrox in Universe X kills and eats a copy to survive in a barren wasteland; all of him become a Wendigo as a result.
- And it's an old question in Legion Of Super Heroes fandom whether Triplicate Girl sleeping with herselves would be incest or masturbation...
- An unusually blatant example, the Sentry and the Void are both alter-egoes of the same man, split into two bodies, who have passionately kissed on at least one occasion.
- Void tells Sentry he loves him and then aggressively tongue kisses him. Sentry responds by TOSSING VOID INTO THE SUN!, so he obviously didn't enjoy it.
- And this trope wouldn't be complete without the XXXenophile story "Dopplegangbang".
- XXXenophile delved into the trope more than once, in fact. There was also a story titled "Self Indulgence", and possibly others too.
- Yep. Clones in "Family Reunion", and a situation in "Heart of Stone" where a cleric has to turn two of her fellow party members into illusionary duplicates of herself in order to satisfy the conditions of a curse.
- DupliKate (who has self-duplication powers) from Invincible has had people walk in on her while she's... enjoying herselves... multiple times.
- Uh... no. Atom Eve walks in on Rex Splode having sex with multiple Kates, then later Rex walks in on Kate and the Immortal. Kate is not screwing herself, she's just pleasuring different guys in multiple ways at the same time.
- Once he discovers that the Jaeger-monster is the Anthropomorphic Personification of his anger, Magri White declares that he can do as he pleases with him, and proceeds to play tonsil hockey with him.
- Preacher shows the unpleasant consequences that can occur when a man blessed/cursed with the power of God orders you to Screw Yourself (though he probably put it more crudely than that). The victim was mercy killed a couple of pages later (though the blood loss would probably have killed him anyway).
- In Cerebus, the title character learns about halfway through the series that he is a hermaphrodite whose genital arrangement could have led to him impregnating himself if his uterus had not been permanently damaged when he was a child.
Fan Works
- Too many Naruto hentai to count. Or So I Heard...
- It's called the Harem Jutsu for a reason.
- Ranma ½ lemon fics use this with Ranma's male and female sides. Some would say far too often; others would say not often enough.
- And it's not always strictly with Ranma(s); for example, there is this Nabiki×Nabiki lemon fanfiction entirely about this trope: Narcissism
.
- Any anime where the main character has a split personality where the other half is a Bishonen falls into this, such as DNAngel and Yu-Gi-Oh!... especially Yu-Gi-Oh!
- Ohoho, especially Yu-Gi-Oh!, INDEED. Not only does the titular character fall into this, but other characters of sorts who had an alter ego or possessed self of some form.
- Youko!Kurama×Shuuichi!Kurama is seen occasionally in Yu Yu Hakusho fanfic, but they're not usually portrayed as the same person.
- There is a really bizarre (pun completely intended) lemon which included Will/Gyro and Jonathan/Johnny pairings. May or may not count though as Gyro and Johnny are their alternate universe incarnations, but look and act very different.
- Though a fandom thing, Star Trek: Voyager wound up with this due to the actor for Tom Paris having been on Next Generation as an entirely different character. So a lot of fanfic winds up with the two characters meeting up in some bar, drunk. (Or, alternatively, just doing a Recycled Script of someone else's fic with Tom being such a narcissist he heads to the holodeck to copy himself.)
- Of course, there is all the in-canon times Voyager crewpeople have met duplicates of themselves. Or not met the duplicates of themselves. They really do give the actors lots of roles to play.
- Supergirl has an alternate-universe doppelganger named Power Girl, who is basically her, only ten years older and more aggressively individualistic (she doesn't wear Superman's costume), with shorter hair and... well, if you've ever heard of the character, you know what else. There is a(n un)surprising amount of Supergirl/Power Girl slashfic.
- The Japanese Mega Man Star Force fandom is full of Pat/Ray fanarts.
- Various doujins of The Melancholy Of Haruhi Suzumiya have this. Specifically Mikuru and her future self with some help from Kyon.
Films
Literature
- The Man Who Folded Himself by David Gerrold.
- "'—All You Zombies—'" by Robert A Heinlein. In which the unmarried mother, the seducer, their illegitimate child, the recruiter for the time-travel corps, and the bartender to whom he/she tells his/her story all turn out to be the same person.
- Heinlein's Time Enough For Love: Lazarus Long at first objects to screwing his own identical-twin female clones, but relents when they assure him it's no more than "Narcissus loving himself".
- Downtiming The Night Side, by Jack Chalker. Not as squicky as it sounds: By the time the hero/heroine hooks up with him/herself they are essentially different people thanks to a Gender Bender, several time loops and the side effects of the book's time travel Phlebotinum.
- F.M. Busby wrote a short story with a similar concept using Reincarnation instead of a Gender Bender. The hero dies and finds himself reborn in the past as the girl who will eventually become his beloved wife. He/she then gets to reexperience their love and marriage from her perspective, eventually giving birth to a daughter who turns out to be (surprise, surprise) herself yet again, reborn once more into the past.
- Fifteen-year-old Henry finds an outlet for his pubescent sexual urges this way (and, it's implied, repeatedly) in The Time Travelers Wife. For added fun, his father walks into the room and catches him (them?) in flagrante. Henry rationalizes having gay sex with himself as a parallel to masturbation, and the obvious course of action that "anyone" would take in his situation (thankfully, his eponymous wife never needs to hear about it).
- Parallelities by Alan Dean Foster not only has the main character bedding an alternate female version of himself while traveling through The Multiverse, he eventually finds an alternate Earth populated entirely by doubles of himself.
- The Darkover novel Two to Conquer has the main character meet up with an exact physical duplicate of himself. The expected interaction occurs.
- Stork Naked, by Piers Anthony.
- Sex With Ghosts
, by Sarah Kanning.
- While the book doesn't get that far, in Magyk By Design by Esther Friesner, a cat (talking, magical) named Scandal gets split up into a number of copies by villains (who can control the copies). By the end of the book, he reabsorbs them. Except for the one representing his female side, who being just a kitten was useless to them and out of the fight. He's accelerating her maturation, for this trope's purpose, with her full encouragement. (They are the only two cats in this world...)
- An early Ursula K. Le Guin story had a set of about nine or ten clones (a hive mind?), some male and some female, who join some place where there were already two normal people working. When the clones have sex with each other, one of the non-clones says, "Oh, let them have their damned incest!" and (as in the anime example above) the other says, "Incest or masturbation?" (The clone-sex wasn't a major plot point.)
- This trope goes right back to Adam and Eve, if you believe the whole rib thing. And then there are the interpretations that suggest she was made from a different bone entirely, one present in many mammals but not in humans.
Live Action TV
- In Red Dwarf, "Parallel Universe", the crew go to a parallel Red Dwarf where humans are all of opposite genders, and Lister gets drunk and sleeps with his female self, to the disgust of both versions of Rimmer.
- Of course, Female!Rimmer was also trying to come on to Male!Rimmer, using (or planning on using) the same crappy pick-up lines and talent for hypnosis he mentioned at the beginning of the episode...
- The parallel universe had male and female roles completely switched, so female-Lister gets male-Lister pregnant. This is revealed immediately before the end of the episode, and what happens to the fetus is dealt with in some some scrolling text at the start of the following season...
- Ironically, in "Rimmerworld", he decides to make an Opposite Sex Clone of himself... somehow. And then have sex with the clone, despite some misgivings:
Rimmer: This of course created the most enormous moral dilemma. Technically, she would be my sister, and therefore unable to take me as her lover. After much soul searching, I reluctantly decided, "What the hell", I just wouldn't tell her.
- Perversions Of Science used this concept. A man decides that no woman is good enough for him, so he decides to create "the perfect woman" by having a sex change and then going back in time to have sex with himself.
- A skit on The Man Show had Adam Corolla and a clone of himself, eventually coming to the conclusion "After all, it's only me, right?"
- On Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Willow's Lesbian Vampire Evil Twin acted interested in getting physical with her human counterpart, licking the squicked-out Willow with lustful intent.
- Not to mention during their goodbye hug:
Willow: Hands! Hands!
- One of the ways the illusion-casting Candice from Heroes tries seducing Sylar is by appearing to him as Sylar ("Or something more familiar... if that's what you're into.").
- In Sliders, Quinn once discusses his adventures on a talk show, and mentions having met a female version of himself. He is immediately asked, "Did you have sex with her?" (We never really found out if he did, though they did kiss. She was Ax Crazy, anyway.)
- We actually get to see them meet early on — though it's something of an It Was His Sled episode as far as that goes. The trailer promoted this episode on that basis, but in-show you wouldn't know until near the end. Quinn is attracted to Logan; Logan only wants his sliding device, but will play along to get it. In her Evil Confession, Logan says, in effect, that she is his Evil Twin — it's just a minor slide from XX to XY, right? Good Is Dumb, which is why she figured it out first.) In the end, he slides away with a remote, with her sliding after with a time lag... Pity we never meet her again. That was also the episode which, in the end, changed the range of the slider remote from "San Francisco only" to "all the way to LA..."
- Although never even hinted at in-series, the use of "regeneration" in Doctor Who and the propensity for the Doctor to meet his past selves has all the inevitable implications. Then again, considering that the new series certainly isn't shy about sexual innuendos and even less about homosexual ones, if it ever does a multi-Doctor episode it would be surprising if it wasn't mentioned.
- They've done a two-Doctor episode (the 2007 "Children in Need" short). There was no self-love involved except for a speech by Ten about how much he had loved being Five (included because the writer, producer, and actor all grew up during Five's tenure as the Doctor).
- In the last episodes of the 4th season, we wind up with three versions of the same Doctor: the Doctor proper, the Hand Doctor and the DoctorDonna. Captain Jack, when finding out that "there are three of you now?", says "I can't tell you what I'm thinking right now."
- There is an entire livejournal community dedicated to exactly this.
- Stargate SG-1: Given how much puppetmaster Ba'al was hitting on Adria, what he might have had in plan after one of his clones possessed her may have fit the trope. However, he never got to carry on his plans, so we may never know... which is probably best.
- On Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Kira's (same sex) Evil Counterpart in the Mirror Universe had the hots for her.
- Mystery Science Theater 3000 references this trope a couple of times, once when talking about a Time Travel movie (Time Chasers), and once where a character was in a computer simulation with a copy of himself (Overdrawn at the Memory Bank).
- Rob Brydon's onscreen kiss with Ben Miller on QI after an episode's worth of jokes that they were identical. Ben: "So that's what it's like!"
- Though nothing comes of it save a broken neck, The Sarah Connor Chronicles has some terribly disturbing one-sided Les Yay from Cameron toward Allison.
Music
- Mindless Self Indulgence expresses a wish for this in "Make Me Cum".
- Hot Sauce and Ice Cream, by Tom Smith, features this briefly near the end, before it turns into a Twin Threesome Fantasy.
Music Video
- The Pink song "Sober" now has a video out. In the middle of it, Pink, in naughty lingerie, is making out with... another Pink in other naughty lingerie. Take a look here
. Starts about 2:20 and gets intercut here and there nearly to the end.
- The music video for "The World is Not Enough" has the robot double of the lead singer killing the real singer by kissing her.
Print Media
Radio
Tabletop Games
- The player's handbook to Aberrant (a White Wolf RPG centered around people developing superpowers as a world-wide phenomenon) contain a chapter with various superhero teams and similar groups across the world (some of which are painfully ethnic). One is the Queer Nova Alliance, an informal group of Novas (superpeople) with 'alternate lifestyles'. One member is Tommy Orgy, whose selection of powers includes self-cloning. It's not made explicit, but what's implied...
Video Games
- The Kingdom Hearts series has a great potential for this (and don't think for a second fandom hasn't picked up on this), with Riku and the Riku Replica, Demyx and his waterclones, Xemnas and Xehanort's Heartless (heck, why not Xehanort himself?), Roxas and Sora, Kairi and Namine, and most recently, Sora and Xion.
- And don't forget the innumerable stories and drawings which pair the Squaresoft Expies from Kingdom Hearts with their original inspirations.
- You forgot the past and present versions of Mickey and Pete, Vexen and Vexen Replica, Sora and Anti-Sora, Roxas and Shadow Roxas, Donald, Goofy and Sora's Master Form (technically), Roxas and Ven, the real and virtual versions of Hayner, Pence, Olette, Seifer, Vivi, Fuu, Rai, Setzer and Kingdom Hearts itself. In Final Mix, there's the real and virtual versions of everyone in Organization XIII, and Larxene and Zexion's copies.
- In the Ace Attorney series, there is... Diego Armando×Godot goodies. Just, no.
- On a more lighter side, but still pretty creepy, is fanart of crossovers between the US and Japanese counterparts. Phoenix (US) seems to be always portrayed as enjoying Ryuichi's (JPN) company a little TOO much...
- Don't forget about all the scarred Matt Engarde/"refreshing like a spring breeze" Matt Engarde. There's even a popular doujinshi devoted to them gang-banging Edgeworth.
- On the other hand, surprisingly little The Legend Of Zelda: Four Swords hentai exists. But why write selfcest when the official manga itself is already catering to the pairing (Red/Blue Link, to be specific)? Freud would love to read that one.
- However, there's quite enough Zelda/Sheik out there to make up for it. Whether male or female (let's not get into that Flame War) Sheik is Zelda in disguise. Fanfics by Yaoi Fangirls under the influence of Het Is Ew will often make them separate without as much as a Hand Wave, but the game is a hundred percent clear on who Sheik is.
- This trooper has seen fanart of Wind Waker Link and young Ocarina of Time Link. Also of Twilight Princess Link and adult Ocarina of time Link. And for the ones who want to cross over to lolicon-territory, there's always a combination of the two... including both versions of Ocarina of Time Link together... a MAJOR case of this trope.
- Considering that Link is a Legacy Character, though, the first two examples only apply in a loose sense.
- Not if you're follower of the Reincarnation theory. (The only theory that at least remotely explains, how they can all look simmilar, share their skills, personality and NAME.)
- There is a hella lot of Prince/Dark Prince from Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones.
- There's plenty of Raul/Fiona imagery from Super Robot Wars fans (and at least one famous Raul/Fiona/Despinis). In Reversal, it'd be this trope as they're male and female versions of the same character; in Generation Super Robot Wars Original Generations, it'd be Twincest.
- The eroge X-Change, toyed with the idea, having one of the girls apparently resemble Takuya's female form, but with a different hair color. This Troper couldn't actually see the similarity. Uh... I mean that's what someone else told me...
- In Metal Gear Solid 3, dress Snake up to look like Raikov, stand in front of Raikov, and just wait.
- In the same series, the ridiculous levels of Foe Yay between Solid Snake and his "brother" Liquid Snake.
- Dark Stalkers: Morrigan and Lilith are technically two fragments of the same soul. The game art depicts them embracing, naked. What did you expect from Horny Devils?
- The BL game Kichiku Megane features an uke salesman that turns super sadistic seme when he puts on a pair of glasses given to him by a mysterious stranger. One of the game endings features uke salesman/salesman with glasses...
- In Tales Of The Abyss we have Asch and Luke. I cannot tell you how many fanfics This Troper has seen pairing them together...
Web Comics
Web Original
- In the Whateley Universe, this is a serious problem to Jobe, as his now-identical clone Belephoebe is also in the body of his ideal girlfriend. And is his daughter, legally. He restrains himself from the urge to make sweet monkey love to her. Even after Jobe is turned into a girl. Belephoebe, however, does NOT restrain herself.
- In one episode of "Retarded Animal Babies", the protagonists travel through the internet, find their creator's Newgrounds profile, and end up entering the beginning of the same episode. Effectively, they have traveled a few minutes into the past and are able to communicate with their past selves. The two Puppies immediately decide to have sex.
Western Animation
- A sketch on Robot Chicken parodying Best Week Ever, featured Hal Sparks(Portrayed as pretty much all people on that show are, as a stop motion action figure) remarking "If anyone ever made a toy of me, I'd have to make out with it". A few seconds later, Hal is shown making out with a considerably less animate but otherwise identical copy of himself. A moment after THAT, he pauses to cheerfully declare to the camera "It's not gay, it's masturbation!"
- This is of course the very first thing a nudist alien does after receiving the secret to paradox free Time Travel in Bender's Big Score.
- In one of its countless Imagine Spots, The Simpsons had Homer fantasizing what it'd be like to marry himself. Cue the image of a room full of mini-Homers and two adult Homers swapping tongue.
- While Cybertronians are by and large immortal robots who realistically would only have a Purely Aesthetic Gender, Starscream in Transformers Animated seems to come on to his Opposite Sex Clone while asking what she represents in him.
- Speaking of Power Girl, the Justice League animated series used a Lawyer Friendly Cameo version of Power Girl (a clone named Galatea) and if you didn't think there as a fuckton of Les Yay between her and Supergirl, we weren't watching the same show.
Real Life
- There are some species of animals that are hermaphrodites and are capable of impregnating themselves...
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