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alt title(s): Selfcest  
That was the last time Danny messed up with his dad's inventions.
As regards sexual intercourse with older or younger copies of yourself, it's incest in branching or changeable timelines, and masturbation in inevitable timelines. In either case, yes, it is gay.
It's a simple tale: Person photocopies self, or travels to an Alternate Universe, or another time. Person meets self. Both selves make beautiful music together. After all, what better person to be most intimate with?
Probably more prevalent in fanfiction than in original works, but it's out there. Technically, any intimacy between a character and their Enemy Without will be Selfcest, too.
Expect much argument amongst the characters and/or fans as if this qualifies as actual sex, incest, or masturbation.
Also known as selfcest, autoincest, or incesturbation. See also Opposite Sex Clone, Twin Threesome Fantasy, My Own Grampa.
In Real Life, a person who would like to do this is a Narcissist — or in truly extreme cases, an autosexual.
Examples
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Anime & Manga
- Ranma ½: Both the manga and anime explored this, though in different manners:
- The anime filler story, which came first, created a female-only (and demonic) copy of Ranma that tried to seduce him to steal his life force, causing him to stumble around zombie-like during the day.
- The manga version centered on a haunted mirror, which created identical copies of whoever looked into it. Since the mirror had trapped the spirit of a girl who had longed to have a boyfriend, any resulting copies would then chase anyone of the opposite sex, and try to date them. When a mirror-copy of girl-Ranma was made, she was immediately smitten with boy-Ranma, and she tried to bed him on her very first night of existence. At the end of the story, a male clone was created accidentally, and both copies happily hooked up (since it would take another week for the seal on the mirror to be fixed, whatever they did afterwards belongs in the realm of imagination.
- Yes! Precure 5, when each Pretty Cure besides Dream is forced to face an Enemy Within while wearing the Mask of Despair. Cure Lemonade faces a creepily affectionate version of her civilian self.
- Also, a sticker set for the second season exists pairing each girl up with her implied or stated love interest: Dream with Coco and Komachi with Nuts, both of which became canon in season one; Karen with Milk, which can't be outright stated but is pretty darn close; Urara and Rin with Syrup, both of which are currently implied (but Urara seems to be winning, despite Toei earlier saying otherwise... Rin has bad luck with boys, doesn't she?), and Kurumi with... Milk again. Herself. Yeah.
- Happens in the second episode of Kaiba; the woman who helped the titular character sneak onboard a spaceship copies her own memories into his body and the two of them have a little fun together... which is quite disturbing given the series' surreal and childlike artstyle. Then the copy kills the original for fear of being deleted.
- Technically, the implied attraction between Madlax and her progenitor/creator/original self Margaret would be this, seeing how she is her Enemy Without of sorts.
- In Hentai manga Alice in Sexland, an artisan created a cupboard that can create a perfect male (and perfectly horny) clone of its female user.
- More like a "futanari" version than male, but yeah.
- In Katekyo Hitman Reborn, the relationship between Mukuro and Chrome tends to feel like this. Their names are actually anagrams of each other, and they look incredibly similar (other than the gender difference), coupled with the fact that they share a body...
- And at first she didn't even look so much like him, it probably was Mukuro himself who made her cut her hair to look like him.
- Let's face it — most people feel Tsuna and Kyoko are the closest thing to this without really being related.
- And then there are all those fanworks that pair up the boys with their "ten years later" versions of themselves...
- There's even official art of the characters together with their older selves.
- Closely related: Jail Scaglietti of Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha impregnated a perfect clone of himself into Uno, who was revealed in the third StrikerS Sound Stage to be his Opposite Sex Clone. Of course, he likely did it in a scientific way, but the lack of information on how he specifically did it inspired some theories that are more base.
Comics
- Jamie Madrox (a second-string X-affiliated character) has the power of self-duplication, which allows him to split into multiple physical copies of himself, sometimes with distinct personalities. Guess what trope comes up in about 90% of Madrox-related Fanfic.
- One of Madrox's duplicates brings out the subject when he's sitting bored at a bar. He indicates he'd rather continue to be bored.
- Related, and lacking its own trope: the Madrox in Universe X kills and eats a copy to survive in a barren wasteland; all of him become a Wendigo as a result.
- And it's an old question in Legion Of Super Heroes fandom whether Triplicate Girl sleeping with herselves would be incest or masturbation...
- An unusually blatant example, the Sentry and the Void are both alter-egoes of the same man, split into two bodies, who have passionately kissed on at least one occasion.
- Void tells Sentry he loves him and then aggressively tongue kisses him. Sentry responds by TOSSING VOID INTO THE SUN!, so he obviously didn't enjoy it.
- And this trope wouldn't be complete without the XXXenophile story "Dopplegangbang".
- XXXenophile delved into the trope more than once, in fact. There was also a story titled "Self Indulgence", and possibly others too.
- Yep. Clones in "Family Reunion", and a situation in "Heart of Stone" where a cleric has to turn two of her fellow party members into illusionary duplicates of herself in order to satisfy the conditions of a curse.
- DupliKate (who has self-duplication powers) from Invincible has had people walk in on her while she's... enjoying herselves... multiple times.
- Uh... no. Atom Eve walks in on Rex Splode having sex with multiple Kates, then later Rex walks in on Kate and the Immortal. Kate is not screwing herself, she's just pleasuring different guys in multiple ways at the same time.
- Once he discovers that the Jaeger-monster is the Anthropomorphic Personification of his anger, Magri White declares that he can do as he pleases with him, and proceeds to play tonsil hockey with him.
- Preacher shows the unpleasant consequences that can occur when a man blessed/cursed with the power of God orders you to Screw Yourself (though he put it more crudely than that). The victim committed suicide a couple of pages later.
- In Cerebus, the title character learns about halfway through the series that he is a hermaphrodite whose genital arrangement could have led to him impregnating himself if his uterus had not been permanently damaged when he was a child.
Fan Works
- Lavi and Deak from D.Gray-man. Also, Allen and the Fourteenth Noah. And I've actually seen a fic where Allen was paired with his INNOCENCE.
- Too many Naruto hentai to count. Or So I Heard...
- It's called the Harem Jutsu for a reason.
- Ranma ½ lemon fics use this with Ranma's male and female sides. Some would say far too often; others would say not often enough.
- And it's not always strictly with Ranma(s); for example, there is this Nabiki×Nabiki lemon fanfiction entirely about this trope: Narcissism.
- Any anime where the main character has a split personality where the other half is a Bishonen falls into this, such as D.N.Angel and Yu-Gi-Oh!... especially Yu-Gi-Oh!
- Ohoho, especially Yu-Gi-Oh!, INDEED. Not only does the titular character fall into this, but other characters of sorts who had an alter ego or possessed self of some form.
- Youko!Kurama×Shuuichi!Kurama is seen occasionally in Yu Yu Hakusho fanfic, but they're not usually portrayed as the same person.
- There is a really bizarre (pun completely intended) lemon which included Will/Gyro and Jonathan/Johnny pairings. May or may not count though as Gyro and Johnny are their alternate universe incarnations, but look and act very different.
- Though a fandom thing, Star Trek: Voyager wound up with this due to the actor for Tom Paris having been on Next Generation as an entirely different character. So a lot of fanfic winds up with the two characters meeting up in some bar, drunk. (Or, alternatively, just doing a Recycled Script of someone else's fic with Tom being such a narcissist he heads to the holodeck to copy himself.)
- Of course, there is all the in-canon times Voyager crewpeople have met duplicates of themselves. Or not met the duplicates of themselves. They really do give the actors lots of roles to play.
- Supergirl has an alternate-universe doppelganger named Power Girl, who is basically her, only ten years older and more aggressively individualistic (she doesn't wear Superman's costume), with shorter hair and... well, if you've ever heard of the character, you know what else. There is a(n un)surprising amount of Supergirl/Power Girl slashfic.
- The Japanese Mega Man Star Force fandom is full of Pat/Ray fanarts.
- Various doujins of The Melancholy Of Haruhi Suzumiya have this. Specifically Mikuru and her future self with some help from Kyon.
- This troper is certain there's rather a lot of shipping involving two of the Doctor's various incarnations. Or more.
- Danny Phantom has somehow gotten Danny Fenton/Danny Phantom pairing fan-works even though it's impossible because he's one person... (Unless you count the thing with the dream catcher that can split him into two halves
once twice.)
- Then, of course, there's also Danny/Dani...
- ... And don't forget his future self. Before you think about that too hard, there is an actual fic for that: Narcissism. It's actually quite hilarious and sadly Dead Fic.
- There's always the fact that one of his powers is actually creating duplicates of himself. And yes, one of the duplicates can go back to human with the other staying as ghost. It is true that only Vlad did that, but it's a matter of training for Danny to do it.
- Oddly, Sympathetic Villain Vlad — who can currently duplicate and has been portrayed as somewhat vain evades this treatment, thank god.
- The World Ends With You has attracted a lot of this, thanks to the implication that there are alternate universes that may be crossed.
- Members of the Tales of the Abyss fandom have taken the implications of replicas to its logical conclusion.
- While the prospect doesn't exist, the fandom of To Love Ru continues to clamor for an actual Opposite Sex Clone conveniently given a place in the male protagonist's Unwanted Harem, due to his Attractive Bent Gender as a result of a Transformation Ray. Then again, because of the female protagonist's status as a Gadgeteer Genius, the likelihood of this happening isn't so far out...
- This troper recalls seeing a fanfiction that shipped Yuka Kazami and her clone from her Doppelganger Attack.
- From the Daitrombe of SRW fandom:
- Ever since Tomb Raider: Underworld, there's been an increasing number of pics with Lara and her Doppleganger from that game.
- This Gargoyles fanfic features multiple clones of Anton Sevarius, some of them gender-swapped, and the daughter that one pair among them decided to create the old-fashioned way as an experiment. (Note that this story occurs more than halfway through an extensive fanfic continuity.)
- Pokémon has at least one in doppleganger shipping: between Ash and a cross-dressed Ash and the pseudo-example of malevolent shipping: Ash and the king of pokelantis; who takes Ash's form
Films — Live Action
Close Films — Live Action
Literature
- The Man Who Folded Himself by David Gerrold.
- "'—All You Zombies—'" by Robert A Heinlein. In which the unmarried mother, the seducer, their illegitimate child, the recruiter for the time-travel corps, and the bartender to whom he/she tells his/her story all turn out to be the same person.
- Heinlein's Time Enough For Love: Lazarus Long at first objects to screwing his own identical-twin female clones, but relents when they assure him it's no more than "Narcissus loving himself".
- Downtiming The Night Side, by Jack Chalker. Not as squicky as it sounds: By the time the hero/heroine hooks up with him/herself they are essentially different people thanks to a Gender Bender, several time loops and the side effects of the book's time travel Phlebotinum.
- F.M. Busby wrote a short story with a similar concept using Reincarnation instead of a Gender Bender. The hero dies and finds himself reborn in the past as the girl who will eventually become his beloved wife. He/she then gets to reexperience their life together from her perspective, eventually giving birth to a daughter who turns out to be (surprise, surprise) him/herself yet again, reborn once more into the past.
- Fifteen-year-old Henry finds an outlet for his pubescent sexual urges this way (and, it's implied, repeatedly) in The Time Travelers Wife. For added fun, his father walks into the room and catches him (them?) in flagrante. Henry rationalizes having gay sex with himself as a parallel to masturbation, and the obvious course of action that "anyone" would take in his situation (thankfully, his eponymous wife never needs to hear about it).
- Parallelities by Alan Dean Foster not only has the main character bedding an alternate female version of himself while traveling through The Multiverse, he eventually finds an alternate Earth populated entirely by doubles of himself.
- The Darkover novel Two to Conquer has the main character meet up with an exact physical duplicate of himself. The expected interaction occurs.
- Stork Naked, by Piers Anthony.
- Sex With Ghosts, by Sarah Kanning.
- While the book doesn't get that far, in Magyk By Design by Esther Friesner, a cat (talking, magical) named Scandal gets split up into a number of copies by villains (who can control the copies). By the end of the book, he reabsorbs them. Except for the one representing his female side, who being just a kitten was useless to them and out of the fight. He's accelerating her maturation, for this trope's purpose, with her full encouragement. (They are the only two cats in this world...)
- An early Ursula K. Le Guin story had a set of about nine or ten clones (a hive mind?), some male and some female, who join some place where there were already two normal people working. When the clones have sex with each other, one of the non-clones says, "Oh, let them have their damned incest!" and (as in the anime example above) the other says, "Incest or masturbation?" (The clone-sex wasn't a major plot point.)
- This trope goes right back to Adam and Eve, if you believe the whole rib thing. And then there are the interpretations that suggest she was made from a different bone entirely, one present in many mammals but not in humans.
- That would technically make every sexual encounter since then incest. Squick.
- It already is if you think about it. We're all cousins, after all.
- Either way you look at it (Biblical or Scientific) we all decended from the same place. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go take care of something.
- Used romantically with several pairings amongst the Starfish Characters in Scorpion Shards. They are soul mates, so to speak, but it gets a little weird when one of them realizes he can't fall in love with someone who isn't part of the group.
- The main character in James Alan Gardner's Commitment Hour spends the last few chapters of the book having "impure" thoughts about a female clone of himself. To make matters worse, their minds are linked to share memories between them, so she "hears" every one of the thoughts. And likes them. The end of the book strongly implies the the character ends up romantically involved with his own clone, while a third, hermaphrodite clone has a whole 'nother squick going on.
Live Action TV
Music
- Mindless Self Indulgence expresses a wish for this in "Make Me Cum".
- Hot Sauce and Ice Cream, by Tom Smith, features this briefly near the end, before it turns into a Twin Threesome Fantasy.
Music Videos
- The Pink song "Sober" now has a video out. In the middle of it, Pink, in naughty lingerie, is making out with... another Pink in other naughty lingerie. Take a look here. Starts about 2:20 and gets intercut here and there nearly to the end.
- The music video for "The World Is Not Enough" has the robot double of the lead singer killing the real singer by kissing her.
- The video for the Bjork song All is Full of Love counts, right?
Print Media
Radio
Stand-up Comedy
- In one bit, David Cross jokes about this guy at the gym fantasizing about pulling himself out of the mirror, and the two thems dance to Barbara Streisand music, make out, and then "they fuck each-other on the Flexinator 500!"
Tabletop Games
- The player's handbook to Aberrant (a White Wolf RPG centered around people developing superpowers as a world-wide phenomenon) contain a chapter with various superhero teams and similar groups across the world (some of which are painfully ethnic). One is the Queer Nova Alliance, an informal group of Novas (superpeople) with 'alternate lifestyles'. One member is Tommy Orgy, whose selection of powers includes self-cloning. It's not made explicit, but what's implied...
Video Games
- The Kingdom Hearts series has a strangely huge potential for this (and don't think for a second fandom hasn't picked up on this), with Riku and the Riku Replica, Demyx and his waterclones, Xemnas and Xehanort's Heartless (heck, why not Xehanort himself?), Roxas and Sora, Kairi and Namine, and most recently, Sora and Xion. And Roxas and Xion. And Sora, Roxas, and Xion, for a threesome of selfcest.
- And don't forget the innumerable stories and drawings which pair the Squaresoft Expies from Kingdom Hearts with their original inspirations.
- You forgot the past and present versions of Mickey and Pete, Vexen and Vexen Replica, Sora and Anti-Sora, Roxas and Shadow Roxas, Donald, Goofy and Sora's Master Form (technically), Roxas and Ven, the real and virtual versions of Hayner, Pence, Olette, Seifer, Vivi, Fuu, Rai, Setzer and Kingdom Hearts itself. In Final Mix, there's the real and virtual versions of everyone in Organization XIII, and Larxene and Zexion's copies...
- In the Ace Attorney series, there is... Diego Armando×Godot goodies. Just, no.
- On a more lighter side, but still pretty creepy, is fanart of crossovers between the US and Japanese counterparts. Phoenix (US) seems to be always portrayed as enjoying Ryuichi's (JPN) company a little TOO much...
- Don't forget about all the scarred Matt Engarde/"refreshing like a spring breeze" Matt Engarde. There's even a popular doujinshi devoted to them gang-banging Edgeworth.
- Mia. Original, Maya-style or Pearl-style. The third iteration gets a little creepy when one remembers that the channeler is a pre-schooler.
- On the other hand, surprisingly little The Legend Of Zelda: Four Swords hentai exists. But why write selfcest when the official manga itself is already catering to the pairing (Red/Blue Link, to be specific)? Freud would love to read that one.
- However, there's quite enough Zelda/Sheik out there to make up for it. Whether male or female (let's not get into that Flame War) Sheik is Zelda in disguise. Fanfics by Yaoi Fangirls under the influence of Het Is Ew will often make them separate without as much as a Hand Wave, but the game is a hundred percent clear on who Sheik is.
- This trooper has seen fanart of Wind Waker Link and young Ocarina of Time Link. Also of Twilight Princess Link and adult Ocarina of time Link. And for the ones who want to cross over to shotacon-territory, there's always a combination of the two... including both versions of Ocarina of Time Link together... a MAJOR case of this trope.
- Considering that Link is a Legacy Character, though, the first two examples only apply in a loose sense.
- Not if you're follower of the Reincarnation theory. (The only theory that at least remotely explains, how they can all look simmilar, share their skills, personality and NAME.)
- There is a hella lot of Prince/Dark Prince from Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones.
- There's plenty of Raul/Fiona imagery from Super Robot Wars fans (and at least one famous Raul/Fiona/Despinis). In Reversal, it'd be this trope as they're male and female versions of the same character; in Generation Super Robot Wars Original Generations, it'd be Twincest.
- The eroge X-Change, toyed with the idea, having one of the girls apparently resemble Takuya's female form, but with a different hair color. This Troper couldn't actually see the similarity. Uh... I mean that's what someone else told me...
- In Metal Gear Solid 3, dress Snake up to look like Raikov, stand in front of Raikov, and just wait.
- In the same series, the ridiculous levels of Foe Yay between Solid Snake and his "brother" Liquid Snake.
- Taken Beyond The Impossible by the marketing campaign for Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, which so far seems to be furiously attempting to encourage this as much as possible. The first trailer alone depicted four Big Bosses, and at the end they got in a pink box (labelled 'LOVE PACK') which jiggled suggestively, alerting a nearby guard. The second trailer involves soldierly Ho Yay CPR and masculine hand-holding and dialogue about always sticking together, between two Big Bosses. Whether this becomes part of the game or not remains to be seen, but Hideo Kojima is at least having fun with it.
- It's now been revealed that a) the four demo-ready character builds are all different versions of Big Boss, and b) the Love Box is indeed a two-person cardboard box and that if two Big Bosses stay still in it for too long, it will start to jiggle around. Not surprising, as even the guys want Big Boss, and that includes Big Boss.
- The official website gives an innuendo-filled description of the Love Pack, saying 'in the spirit of camaraderie, some may find it comfortable!'. And also reveals that the characters giggle when taking items from each other, because it tickles. Big Boss is officially the gayest thing in an already incredibly gay series, and for himself.
- Dark Stalkers: Morrigan and Lilith are technically two fragments of the same soul. The game art depicts them embracing, naked. What did you expect from Horny Devils?
- The BL game Kichiku Megane features an uke salesman that turns super sadistic seme when he puts on a pair of glasses given to him by a mysterious stranger. One of the game endings features uke salesman/salesman with glasses...
- In Tales of the Abyss we have Asch and Luke. I cannot tell you how many fanfics This Troper has seen pairing them together...
- And then there's Sync/Ion/Florian...
- In Hell MOO, while (to my knowledge) you can't actually do this, there are flyers advertising clone services that definately hint at this, and it is not difficult at all to become an autosexual.
Web Comics
Web Original
- In the Whateley Universe, this is a serious problem to Jobe, as his now-identical clone Belephoebe is also in the body of his ideal girlfriend. And is his daughter, legally. He restrains himself from the urge to make sweet monkey love to her. Even after Jobe is turned into a girl. Belephoebe, however, does NOT restrain herself.
- In episode 10 of Retarded Animal Babies, the protagonists travel through the internet, find their creator's Newgrounds profile, and end up entering the beginning of the same episode. Effectively, they have traveled a few minutes into the past and are able to communicate with their past selves. The two Puppies immediately decide to have sex.
- Invoked, and very nearly practiced, by Doctor What in AH Dot Com The Series "The Narcissus Syndrome" — with his evil, Mirror Universe, Gender Bender counterpart.
Western Animation
- A sketch on Robot Chicken parodying Best Week Ever, featured Hal Sparks(Portrayed as pretty much all people on that show are, as a stop motion action figure) remarking "If anyone ever made a toy of me, I'd have to make out with it". A few seconds later, Hal is shown making out with a considerably less animate but otherwise identical copy of himself. A moment after THAT, he pauses to cheerfully declare to the camera "It's not gay, it's masturbation!"
- This is of course the very first thing a nudist alien does after receiving the secret to paradox free Time Travel in Bender's Big Score.
- In one of its countless Imagine Spots, The Simpsons had Homer fantasizing what it'd be like to marry himself. Cue the image of a room full of mini-Homers and two adult Homers swapping tongue.
- While Cybertronians are by and large immortal robots who realistically would only have a Purely Aesthetic Gender, Starscream in Transformers Animated seems to come on to his Opposite Sex Clone while asking what she represents in him.
- The fact that he's flirting with his opposite-sex clone should make it obvious. It's either repressed sexuality, narcissism, or both. Word Of God says this isn't true, but they're wrong. So very, very wrong.
- Speaking of Power Girl, the Justice League animated series used a Lawyer Friendly Cameo version of Power Girl (a clone named Galatea) and if you didn't think there as a fuckton of Les Yay between her and Supergirl, we weren't watching the same show.
- A recent episode of Family Guy featured Stewie and Brian travelling to other universes, one being where everyone has two heads: One happy, one sad. When we see this universe's Stewie, we see his heads kissing each other. The happy one likes it, while the sad one tries his best to.
- Aeon Flux. How has no-one mentioned the episode where Aeon is duplicated and, true to her omnisexual nature, makes out with herself, though only briefly?
Real Life
- There are some species of animals that are hermaphrodites and are capable of impregnating themselves...
- All humans are descendants from Mitochondrial Eve, a single woman that lived about 170,000 years ago. This has the similar implications to the Adam and Eve story: Every sex act ever is between distant relatives.
- There is also a "Y-chromosomal Adam", but he lived 60,000 years ago.
- In a broadly similar vein, Woody Allen once quipped: "I love to masturbate. It's sex with someone I love."
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