Troperville
Help us survive. All donations are anonymous on the wiki and unacknowledged, as we don't wish to create a hierarchy among Tropers.
Editing
Tools
Toys
|
alt title(s): Cool But Impractical A skeletal steed. Impressive but impractical. I had one once, but the head fell off. — Death, Reaper Man
So, you've been toiling through the game for many an hour. You've killed a veritable army of Mooks, solved all the puzzles, worked your way through the Bonus Dungeon, and uncovered The Very Definitely Final Dungeon. And here's your reward: The ultimate attack. The spell that scatters the enemies and razes their land, drives your foes before you and allows you to listen to the lamentations of their women. The weapon which channels the power of the gods and rends the earth (although somehow without damaging you or your teammates). The strategy that even Machiavelli couldn't work his head around. The one attack that rips victory from the jaws of defeat, bends to one knee, and hands it to you on a silver platter.
It's awesome. It's flashy. It's unstoppable.
It's also completely useless.
Yes, it seems that the designers put so much time into maxing out the ultimate-ness of the ultimate attack that they forgot to actually make it usable. Maybe it requires too many resources to use, so cheaper, less-explosive attacks are usually better. Maybe it takes too long to get or comes too late in the game, so by the time you get it, no opponent poses a credible threat to you. Maybe it requires some sort of bizarre set-up to enact, which makes it easier and more efficient to use normal attacks.
Whatever the reason, it will get used once, to see what it looks like, and then never again. Yeah, it's awesome, but you've got a game to win here.
Mind you, if you care about doing cool stuff over winning, they can be quite fun. A competitive player will never look at them twice; this is one of the good things about being a Noob.
Related to the Bragging Rights Reward and Inventional Wisdom on occasion. The Infinity Plus One Sword may be this. See also Cool But Inefficient, Useless Useful Spell, Blessed With Suck. Contrast Too Awesome To Use, Boring But Practical, Awesome Yet Practical and Game Breaker. Crosses with Death Or Glory Attack when a miss will result in nasty consequences.
Examples:
Anime
- Uryu Ishida from Bleach possesses an attack like this—the deadly Sprenger, which requires him to set up a pentacle of Scheele Schneiders around his opponent and detonate their stored spiritual energy in a focused blast. He remarks that the attack takes so long to set up that its impossible to use it in battle without a partner to distract the enemy.
- And now, we have Soifon's bankai, which is big, clunky, and above all loud, not exactly the best tool for an assassin.
- Similarly, Dragonball Z has Goku's massively powerful Spirit Bomb attack, an attack so ponderous it takes several episodes to fully charge—he also invariably needs help holding off the baddie while he does this.
- Even more annoyingly, the Spirit Bomb/Genki Dama is essentially The Worf Barrage. The first time he uses it- against Vegeta- it draws power from the entire planet, and while Vegeta's pretty banged up, he's still good for a fight up until the point he get's crushed by a King-Kong sized Gohan's King-Kong sized ass. The second time- against Frieza- he uses the energy of several planets, and it just makes Frieza mad. Goku- not as stupid as he seems sometimes- doesn't use it again in canon until the very last fight of the series, and this time it does work- with the power of an entire universe behind it.
- Strangely, in movies 2-7, the Spirit Bomb was the most effective weapon against the villains.
- Naruto's Rasen Shuriken has shades of this. Yes, it's basically a one-hit kill, and the only defense against it is 'dodge'. However, it also has no range and a very short duration, meaning he needs to get right up next to the enemy and basically shove it down their throat. Not to mention the minor detail that using it also hurts the wielder, exposing the arm he uses to throw it to the same cell-destroying properties that makes it so effective on enemies (using it is actually compared to injecting a poison into his own arm).
- The Rasengan has now become more Awesome But Practical since he gained the ability to use it for a long-distance strike, essentially annihilating anything he hits without hurting himself.
- Too bad, that in the very fight this upgrade was introduced, abilities to absorb Rasengan without harm or repel it with sheer power were introduced too.
- Zoids: New Century Zero anyone? Bit Cloud gets the amazing, highly offensive Panzer unit upgrade for his Liger Zero, at the cost that he cannot move and the zoid overheats and he nearly melts in the cockpit.
- That's only in the anime. In everything else, it just makes the Liger Zero slow as hell.
- This basically covers of the special "Invisible 9" units in Pumpkin Scissors in a nutshell, which feature soldiers transformed into supersoldiers in order to counteract design and equipment failures, or to accomplish things that could otherwise be done cheaper with technology improvements. The 908 High Temperature Troopers, for example, use suped-up flamethrowers that are so powerful they cook the users alive. Their "protective suits", rather than actually shielding them from the heat and dispersing it, are instead filled with special chemicals that keep them painfree and able to function, though they die quickly and in hideous pain if they take the suit off.
- Scrapped Princess had Ginnungagap, a Super-Range Strategic-Class Assault spell. It takes around 70 trained military magicians using a multi-stage ritual to pull it off and it was forbidden by treaty such that using it was tantamount to a declaration of all-out war.
- Slayers, in the OAVs, has Naga the Serpent, Lina's self-proclaimed greatest rival, first travelling companion, and all-around egotistic pain in the butt. As bizarre as Lina's outfit looks, it pales in comparison to Naga's, which takes Stripperiffic to a whole new level. It also comes with ridiculously huge spiky shoulderpads. They were so big, and the spikes so long and sharb, that she stabbed herself in the face whenever she raised her arms over her head... like to cast a spell.
Comic Books
- The Batmobile as it is known and loved today. There, I said it.
- Marvel's premier Cloak And Dagger organization, S.H.I.E.L.D., prefers to operate out of a Helicarrier. It's basically a Airborne Aircraft Carrier , and it's exactly as cool as it sounds. Unfortunately, it tends to crash. A lot. This typically causes about as much destruction as you'd expect from dropping something the size of an aircraft carrier from about a mile up, and usually has the inadvertent effect of releasing whatever superpowered psychopaths, alien viruses, etc. that happened to be locked up there at the time.
- Wonder Woman's invisible jet, especially since it doesn't make Wonder Woman herself invisible. She may as well had the ability to fly like Superman.
- The original version of Wonder Woman couldn't fly. Also she can use it to transport other people who can't fly. And just because you can walk doesn't mean a car isn't useful.
Live Action TV
- The Excalibur from Crusade had the ability to fire a supercharged shot that could kill pretty much any ship it faced. Downside? It almost drained the ship, leaving it vulnerable for a minute. A minute in which the destroyed enemy ship's buddies could use to wail on it.
- Stargate SG-1: the staff weapon. It looks great, it's flashy, it fires orange bolts of plasma, it doubles as a melee weapon... until you find it out, that it's inaccurate, slow-firing and the chances of surviving a hit is ridiculously high for the main characters. Of course, being the mook's weapon of choice doesn't help either. This doesn't stop Teal'c being badass with it, but even he switches to P90-s in the later seasons. Also, zats are far more effective in close quarter combat.
- Made explicit in one episode where O'Neill (with two l's is training some rebel Jaffa to use P-90s. After an impressive demo comparing the firearm's superiority, he explains "This (the staff weapon) is a weapon of terror. Its purpose is to intimidate the enemy. This (the P-90) is a weapon of war. Its purpose is to kill the enemy."
- Even though the P-90 still looked pretty damn impressive when it cut a log in half.
- It's worth pointing at the Sodans have reduced sized staff weapons that apparently have a full-auto mode, firing huge torrents of energy bolts.
- Myth Busters. In a recent example, they built a boat out of frozen newspaper, powered by a 150 horsepower engine and got it up to 25mph. Of course, being made out of frozen newspaper, it melted within half an hour.
Tabletop Games
- Several years ago in the Magic: the Gathering tournament scene, the idea popped up that any card costing more than four mana had to basically win you the game single-handedly or it wasn't good enough. This has changed somewhat in recent years (and, perhaps ironically, the originator of the meme has since disavowed it himself) with Wizards Of The Coast's attempts to make the flashy-but-expensive cards more viable and tone down the power level of small creatures and cheap effects; nonetheless, high-cost cards are still seen as mainly the purview of social gamers who play for fun rather than that of pro tournament players. This concept is demonstrated in this strip
of the webcomic UG Madness.
- A good embodiment of the trope would be the Ultimatum cycle from the recent Shards of Alara set, five rare sorceries with impressive effects each that all but guarantee you'll win the game the turn you play one... if you can only get seven points of colored mana in just the right combination together.
- Dragons in general tend to be extraordinarily powerful cards but incredibly difficult to get into play, with high casting costs. A particular example from the game's early days were the Elder Dragons, five cards with powerful stats and splashy effects but which were almost impossible to play thanks to their casting costs and which required a constant influx of mana every turn to keep them in play.
- The Baneblade superheavy tank in Warhammer 40,000 looks absolutely sweet and its stats on paper are overwhelmingly awesome. After all, its ready to unleash ELEVEN BARRELS OF HELL! However, the sheer ridiculous points cost means that the opponent can field a much larger force, with all the dedicated anti-tank weaponry needed to make the Baneblade into eleven barrels of scrap metal.
- Then came Apocalypse and 5th Ed, which made them cheaper and harder to take down.
- On that note, Chaos Space Marines in Warhammer 40,000 have Obliterators, guys who have an amazing save, are good at close combat, but their greatest ability is that they can switch weapons between any non-solid ammunition weapons each turn (i.e. use a lascannon one turn, then a flamer the next.) However, each Obliterator costs more than a freaking predator tank, and it is much more practical to simply get that or a heavy weapons squad. If used right, though, they used to be Game Breakers.
- Obliterators are still among the best heavy support choices for Chaos, since they are durable and extremely versatile. And they only cost more than a Predator with only one autocannon (which is not very useful). Not to mention you can have up to 9 Obliterators in an army. The Chaos codex is loaded with various Awesome But Impractical units though, the worst offender probably being the Possessed. They're quite powerful in close combat and randomly get useful abilities such as rending or feel no pain, but they're expensive and the abilities are random so you can't plan around them. They also lack grenades and power weapons (unless you get lucky rolling the abilities). Overall, Khorne Berserkers are far superior melee units, and also count as scoring.
- In Exalted, the Sidereal Exalted have the reputation of unparalleled Martial Artists. They can create and learn Kung Fu styles so powerful that they basically rewrite the reality at whim and so flashy that fans of all the other splats demand them to be universally available. The catch is, these Martial Arts are incredibly expensive and very cumbersome to successfully employ in combat. Most Exalts are much better off using their less awesome but cheaper and more reliable Kung Fu.
- Subverted by the Gloryborn template armour from the Dungeons And Dragons 3.5 Dungeon Master's Guide II. This was explicitly stated to look as absurdly impractical as possible - men would get chest armour limited to leather straps to show off their pecs, while women got pretty much what you'd expect. Despite looking Awesome But Impractical, it really functions exactly like normal armour of that kind, due to the extraplanar origin of the equipment.
- Also in this realm are many tricks the character op boards can come up with, for example a sack of pieces of paper with explosive runes cast on them, then cast a dispel effect on them and purposefully fail. In theory it does massive damage, in practice, the cost and time involved make it a lot easier to just exploit the game's inversion of Useless Useful Spell and fling save or dies around.
- Also the Thralherd prestige class gets leigons of mind slaves, replenished each day, using them as suicide bombers is a neat gimmick, it isn't that great mechanically.
Video Games
Webcomics
- Riff uses one of these in this
Sluggy Freelance strip. At first a gatling gun that fires 100 stakes per second sounds like a great anti-vampire weapon. But when you realize that it can only hold one hundred stakes at a time and takes two days to load ... well, you can stake one vampire really, really good. The other dozen or so will tear you to pieces.
- He eventually makes it better by adding a beltloader, similar to a mini-gun.
- Sword-Chucks, yo!
Western Animation
- One of Ben Tennyson's alien forms in Ben 10: Alien Force is the awesome Alien X, capable of reshaping the very fabric of the universe at whim. But there's a catch: Alien X has three separate personalities, Serena, the voice of love and compassion; Bellicus, the voice of rage and aggression; and Ben, the voice of reason. In order to perform any action at all, up to and including speech and physical movement, two of those three personalities must agree to do so. Considering the other two personalities have been arguing for an eternity before Ben's arrival, this doesn't happen very often.
- Made stranger by the fact that since the two voices have been arguing for eternity, naturally when a third (Ben) appears, that third should be more or less all powerful as they can sway all the deadlocks to their side with tie breaking votes, however when Ben appears, it seems they put aside all their differences, to oppose Ben's choices for some reason.
Web Original
- Many of the guns in Survival Of The Fittest fall under this, simply because they're good, but require training that no Ordinary Highschool Student should have to be used effectively. It is also played very straight when the villain Adam Reeves receives a Damascus sword as a prize, then discards it because it is too heavy.
Real Life
- Howard Hughes's Hercules aircraft, colloquially known as the "Spruce Goose". He spends several million dollars of his own money to prove it would work and he took so long building it that World War II was over by the time he finished it. Due to questions over the money spent by the government on its development, to prove it really would work, he does a small test flight. The plane was too big and so overengineered it was impractical to actually use, so after its single flight, it is mothballed for decades until it becomes a public museum exhibit.
- Quite a few aircraft have been deemed too expensive to run, despite having met their design goals. For example, the SR-71 Blackbird
, the world's fastest jet. Or for a nonmilitary example, Concorde was definitely awesome but for various reasons aren't being flown any more.
- To underline just how fast this thing goes, ACCELERATING was usually the best tactic in the case of the enemy firing off a locked-on missile.
- The Blackbird was far from impractical: it had a thirty-two year operational life and completed over three thousand combat missions with only thirty aircraft. On a per-airframe basis, that's better than most frontline fighters.
- The M-16, when first used in Vietnam, was suppose to represent the pinnacle of the modern assault rifle. It was made of lightweight polymers which reduced the rifle’s weight tremendously while still giving the user the option of automatic or single shot fire, decent penetration for it's weight, and a number of other features. To most civilians and politicians, this rifle looked really badass. However, it was expensive and prone to clogging, corrosion and jamming in the jungle environment of South East Asia (unlike the mass produced AK-47s or the earlier M-1 which were still in use), and felt like a toy to soldiers who were forced to use it. To be fair, the AR-15 really did work for civilian and Air Force uses in the U.S., but in the field it wasn’t the ‘general purpose military rifle’ until its revision as the M-16A1.
- It's still a lemon. The M855 67 grain .223 NATO round is a varmint round. The M16A2 took away the full automatic setting, changed the twist in the barrel, changed the handguards, and added a brass deflector. The M16A4 didn't make any significant changes to the A2 besides rail mounts on the handguards and carrying handle.
- The 5.56mm round is "underpowered" and yet the Beltway sniper managed to kill umpteen victims with it; US and NATO troops seem quite adept at using it to mow down enemies in Afghanistan and Iraq (often while taking insignificant casualties themselves); you can carry twice as many rounds of it compared to 7.62mm; and it makes for a lighter, easier-to-wield, lower-recoil weapon. Anyway, studies done by the Operational Research Group showed that lethality is primarily determined by the location on the human body that a person is shot - not the round they are hit with.
- This was actually an important change. Sure, there is such a thing as overaccessoring (especially with the M4A1), but the most common item this troper sees on a M16 or M4 type? An optic, which makes quite the difference compared to (open) iron sights and nowadays averts the trope by being durable enough for combat. (As opposed to, say, the fire control system on the OICW.)
- .223 isn't a varmint round. The bullet may be small, yes, but when it hits something, it tumbles, creating a very large wound channel INSIDE the person. When you take into account how light it is, how low recoil it is, and how easy it is to shoot, it actually is a pretty good cartridge. Now, this troper would prefer a good .308 all the same, but that's just him. The M16 also was mainly unreliable in Vietnam due to the brass believing it was so reliable and advanced it never needed to be cleaned thus the soldiers were never issued cleaning kits nor taught how to clean the thing properly (([[I Am Not Making This Up]])) and the smokeless powder they were using at the time was coarse and tended to foul up the receiver. In time they got their act together and the M16, while a bit more maintenance needing than, say, an AKM, is now a reliable rifle.
- Minor correction: it was not the brass, but Colt itself that told that the weapon was so advanced that it did not require cleaning. The brass believed it and since this is the military we are talking about, took any method to save on budget. In general, most of the problems could be traced back to cutting corners, which is why it caused a bit of a political mess at the time. The ammunition issued was particularly at fault: the Army decided to stick to its old ball powder and not the IMR type that the AR-15 was designed to be used with. If that weren't enough, the chroming of the barrels was also cut to save money. How the 5.56 was selected is another sob story, involving lots of heated discussion and political foots put down.
- The alternate cursors in Windows.
- There are alternate cursors?
- The Nock Volley Gun. This thing was designed for use in naval warfare. It has seven barrels. Unfortunately, it turned out most men weren't big or built enough to fire it without a) being thrown violently backwards by the recoil, b) falling off whatever high place they were firing it from, c) having their shoulder shattered. Shame.
- You can unlock this gun after you finish the last mission of GUN. Unfortunately, it falls under the territory of BraggingRightsReward as there's pretty much nothing left to kill with it and there's no NewGamePlus. It's a shame, because it makes quite an amazing mess.
- The Dallas Cowboys are selling the Endzone of their stadium
. For the low, low price of $500,000, you can get all 530 square feet of it put in your own back yard. Of course you'll still have to cut and repaint it every day, and give it the 5 star lawn care it would require to keep it from turning into plain old regular grass.
- Um, if this is the actual end zone from Texas Stadium, it's artificial turf.
- The rubber band gatling gun. The ultimate rubber band gun, it can fire off over a hundred bands in a matter of seconds. Unfortunately it costs a small fortune, takes around half an hour to load, has a tendency to jam if not loaded very carefully, and is horribly inaccurate.
- Electric Knives. One urban legend states that the electric knife was never meant to be used; it was designed, in fact, to be something for kids who don't know any better to buy their parents for birthdays. (Though a number of TV chefs, Rachel Ray in particular, actually use electric knives.)
- This troper actually finds electric knives extremely useful, but not for cutting meat. When cutting homemade bread, electric knives make it very easy to cut the loaf without mashing it.
- This troper's brother uses an electric knife to fillet fish. It's somewhat faster than using a manual knife.
- Double Barrel Tanks are the mecha of Tanks, seen as cool but yet as impractical.
- The Soviet T-35 heavy tank deserves special mention here; it looked impossibly cool, had 5 turrets and 6 machine guns, weighed 45 tons and took 11 crew members to operate. It was also slow, incredibly expensive, and far too mechanically complex for the rigors of war. Only 61 were built, and most of those were lost due to mechanical failure rather then German Panzers. The T-34 was half as big, and only had one turret. This tank won World War II, and 84,000 T-34s were eventually built.
- Same with any heavy tank, but especially hard hit were the Nazis. They had some kick ass tanks including the Tiger II. Great firepower, awesome armor, but it probably used 2400 liters per hundred kilometers and by the time it was fielded, their fuel supply was next to none.
- The book My Tank is Fight!
is about impractical inventions of World War Two.
- "I Am Rich," an iPhone application that costs $1,000 and has two purposes: 1. Show a glowing red gem on your screen and 2. Show a secret mantra of some sort when you click the "i" icon in the lower right corner. In other words: a near-useless app that costs more than the iPhone itself.
- Many people just buy it to prove they are rich enough to spend $1000 dollars on a crappy application and not care (It's called "I Am Rich", is it not?). It's also a total scam.
- Some would say the iPhone itself is a victim of this trope.
- The XM29 OICW. It's a 20mm grenade launcher on top of a 5.56mm assault rifle. It also has a kick ass computerized scope that programs the grenades (yes... programs) so that it will explode at a certain distance. The problem? Military officials equate sending a soldier with one of these the same as sending an aircraft carrier into combat.
- Could you care to elaborate on this? The OICW was meant to be a infantry weapon, so why would it be too expensive? It was cancelled because it never reached it projected weight, so instead the program was split into two: the XM 8 (an update to the M4, based on the H&K G36, the program got cancelled despite showing promise) and the XM 25 (the grenade launching part with all of its features, doing field tests in Iran and Iraq as of 2009 Summer). I agree that it embodies this troop quite well though: it essentially combines a multi-shot grenade launcher with an assault rifle. It was good, until you considered what would lugging the thing around, fully loaded meant.
- The B-1 "Lancer" was originally conceived as a bomber that would roar in at supersonic speeds to defend itself against missiles and enemy aircraft, and would, if hit, eject the entire cockpit as a survival capsule that would parachute to earth. By the time it's production version, the B-1B, ended its operational life it was used as a conventional bomber operating almost all the time at subsonic speeds. And no capsule. Basically, all attempts at supersonic heavy bombers have ended up as failures.
- Speaking of supersonic heavy bombers... the SLAM
. Imagine a locomotive. Now, imagine that locomotive with a nuclear ramjet engine, flying at three times the speed of sound at low level, lobbing nuclear bombs at things. Even without the nuclear bombs, the shockwave, exhaust, unshielded reactor, and fission fragments would destroy, kill and irradiate whatever it flew over. Unfortunately, the problem with building a weapon that spews nuclear waste everywhere is that nobody will give you permission to test-fly it, and your allies might disapprove of it flying over their countries to get to the USSR.
- This project.
A group of engineers decide that the best way to prevent malaria in developing nations is to kill mosquitos...with lasers.
- Segways. The self propelled vehicle, AND the lead-ins to jokes.
- Segways: Changing the way people get hit by cars.
- The Nazis had the Tiger tank. Big and brawny but too pricey. The parts used for one could have been used to build 3 Mark II Panzers.
- Shotguns most of the time. Shotguns are the equivalent of firing multiple rounds in a spread shot fashion, you just have to point the gun in the general direction of the target and fire. And the ammunition for the most part is universal. The only problem is is only a few shotguns use box magazines, so reloading is a painstaking shell by shell process, and their range.
- Nuclear weapons (save possibly for those with really low yeilds for precision strikes). Once it was clear it would do more harm than good (and we didn't even quite know the full extent of the damage when they were used at the end of World War II), the only reason to keep them was just in case someone else did.
- 8-bit
◊ Mario computer mice ◊. They're nifty and look nice, but they're also large, clunky, and uncomfortable.
- Sweets, very fatty foods, and junk food in general. These foods can taste awesome, but are usually unhealthy.
- The Sydney Opera House. It's an opera house. It looks awesome. It cost $102 million, more than fourteen times its original estimated cost of $7 million, and was created ten years after it was supposed to be. And it's one of the modern wonders of architecture.
|
|