Subpages cleanup: Complete Monster

During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

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Final Verdict?

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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

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#165451: Jun 1st 2019 at 9:30:22 AM

Bill Nyarly the science guy

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."

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#165452: Jun 1st 2019 at 9:50:14 AM

Web Original de-potholings amnd folderization:

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3 Terrifying Tales:
- Heinrich Strauss, the Big Bad of 73 Years Later, when sent by Adolf Hitler to find the key to immortality, occupied a village in Norway, where he released captured Jewish families out in a field to be used as target practice; forced Harold to watch as his dogs killed his soldiers; and shot Harold in front of his boyfriend Alfred. Slipping into a coma, he killed the witch Alitha and decided to become immortal. In present day, he made himself look like Harold and killed Alfred himself, visiting his funeral just to spit on his grave. Desiring to kill Alfred's grandson Michael, he has Danielle lure them to his hideout, where he kills her and Michael's boyfriend Lucas. Resurrected in Electrocution, Heinrich kills the scientists who brought him back to life and escapes with Vincent North. Establishing an underground concentration camp, Heinrich has Vincent torture a captured Michael for years while he gleefully executes captured survivors of all ages. Once Natalie Walker's men storm his base, Heinrich murders Vincent for failing him, leaves his men to die, and orders every one of his injured soldiers killed.
- The aforementioned Vincent North, debuting in Cold Winter Nights, is a Serial Killer who murders women of all ages by freezing them to death overnight, taking photos of their corpses and selling them on the Dark Web. As a child, he let his injured mother die in the freezing cold, disappointed when her screams and suffering proved too quick. Resurrected alongside Heinrich in Electrocution, Vincent killed the scientists there and escaped with Heinrich. Working with Heinrich in his underground concentration camp as his Torture Technician, Vincent tortures Michael for three years, while also taking random women from the camp and freezing them to death, storing the frozen corpses in his room as trophies.
- Electrocution: The aforementioned Natalie Walker is a selfish businesswoman who seeks to become the Earth's goddess. Finding a staff that resulted in a huge meteorite crashing into the Empire State Building, Natalie cared nothing for the thousands of deaths, and killed her girlfriend for witnessing the event. Cutting the breaks in her parents' car, she took over her father's company and began researching the meteorite's substances on animals. Using the serum on Heinrich and Vincent, she left her scientists to die by their hands, then decided to have people kidnapped, killed, and experimented on once she found that she could control the resurrected mutants. Unleashing these mutants onto New York, she establishes an underground base where its citizens view her as a goddess and the women are kept as sex slaves. Sending Maggie to kill Heinrich, she turns her men into mutants against her wishes, kills Michael, and tries to use Maggie and her soldiers as a way to spread her virus across the world.
Alessa's Fantasies:
- Alessa:
  - Nicholas, later revealed to be Old Scratch himself, is a sadistic Fallen Angel. Cast out of Heaven after attempting to slaughter humanity, Nicholas joined forces with Alexander Brimstone and conspired with him to poison the young Princess Mary. When that plan failed, and Mary survived, Nicholas turned Alexander's men into demonic creatures and lead an assault against her kingdom, killing everyone there and leaving her as the Sole Survivor and with amnesia. After tossing her into the ocean, Nicholas attacks the kingdom Mary washes up on, destroying the watchtowers that lined the coast and killing all the men inside. Striking a deal with Mary, now Alessa, Nicholas promised to spare the kingdom is she managed to get her powers back. Not only was he lying, he undermines the deal by sending Cynthia Wilson to kill both her and Lola before this happened. When Lola manages to help Alessa get her powers back, Nicholas, who had been watching them, panics. Killing Alexander when he talks back and strangling the High Priestess to death, he attempts to slaughter the kingdom anyway. When Alessa arrives and forces his army to surrender, Nicholas kills them all in rage before attempting to kill Alessa himself.
  - The aforementioned Cynthia Wilson is a vicious teenager with a nasty homophobic streak. Having caused several LGBT girls to commit suicide prior to her first appearance, Cynthia is introduced mocking Lola about her girlfriend, Faith, who she had earlier bullied into jumping off the roof. When Nicholas arrives and word spreads of his deal with Alessa, Cynthia, having no faith that Lola will successfully return her powers, makes a deal with Nicholas to kill them both to save herself, selling out her kingdom and killing her "friends" to seal the deal. Tracking Alessa and Lola to a village, she slaughters everyone and sadistically tortures the son of the innkeeper to the hotel the two stayed at. After the woman told her where they went, Cynthia killed them both anyway. Confronting Alessa and Lola, she takes the latter hostage. She then attempts to kill them both, bragging about what she did to the village all the while.
- Alessa and the Kingdom of Shadows: The Shadow Queen is the wicked ruler of the Shadow Kingdom. Originally a queen who desired godhood, she struck a deal with the dark forces to acquire power, relocating her entire kingdom to the dark world to achieve said power. Kidnapping numerous people for over a century, she either converts them into Shadows by showing them propaganda, or sacrifices young girls to get the power she desires. Having little care for her own civilians, she allows corrupt policemen to kill anyone in their path and at one point blows up an entire block in an attempt to kill Alessa. With Alessa in her grasp, she plans to indoctrinate her in her army, where she will have her lead her soldiers to slaughter Annabel's kingdom once she's done sacrificing her.
- Phillip: Dr. Samuel Valentine is a vampire supremacist who seeks to inhabit the world with daywalkers in order to fully diminish humanity. To this end, Valentine kidnaps fifteen women and rapes them to produce dhampirs, with eight of them dying from their babies bursting out of the wound. When Phillip, Luna, and Serenata invade his hideout, Valentine has his six remaining captives doused in gasoline and threatened with being burned alive should they not let him go.
Alice Isn't Dead:
- The mysterious Police Woman, also known as Thistle, is a relentless hunter who hounds Keisha across the US to murder her for getting too close to the secrets of the Thistle Men and Bay & Creek Shipping. Along the way, the Police Woman leaves a trail of bloodshed and destruction, killing multiple people to take their vehicles, with Keisha stumbling upon her gruesome murder of a cop at one point. Upon capturing Keisha, the Police Woman reveals herself as a monstrous sadist who tries to force Keisha to "understand" everything, just so she can take cruel pleasure in her despair before killing her. Even after her supposed death, Thistle awakens later and reveals she is the one who creates the cannibalistic Thistle Men and sets them on the world to watch the carnage, gleeful about the murders and chaos she will continue to sow.
- Lucy, a high-ranking member of Bay & Creek, is apparently a close friend of Keisha's wife Alice who cares for Keisha. In truth, Lucy is a willing participant of The Conspiracy to make others believe that her group are fighting the Thistle Men instead of working with them. Lucy betrays her own allies, letting them be murdered and directs the Thistle Men to claim more bodies before leading them to massacre Keisha, Alice and their group of survivors, showing no remorse in attempting to murder Alice and Keisha with her bare hands.
The Angel's Game series: Jack Collector Sullivan, aka The Collector, is the Big Bad of the series's second part and an interdimensional Serial Killer with over 250 victims to his name. A Riftling hybrid, Collector took the mind of Stephen Patrick and forced him to commit a series of killings in his own reality which culminated with the death of his father. Travelling to another dimension, Collector went on to murder many more people For the Evulz. Collector's crimes include stabbing a paranormal investigator with a fork so he could drown in his own blood; making a sick woman suffocate on her vomit; throwing a grenade in a van with a family inside; detonating an entire school; and many more atrocities. Exploding a gas station, Collector killed two police officers who had arrived at the scene and then devoured a child before slitting the throats of her parents. Setting up a game to challenge the organization hunting him, the SMD, and his targets, Collector murdered three people and used their blood to write the game's rules on the walls of a church. Regularly tormenting Josh and his friends, Collector has Josh's girlfriend, Courtney, kidnapped and agreed to return her if Josh killed a SMD agent for him. Despite his deal, Courtney had her face ripped off and sent to Josh in a cooler. A depraved and remorseless entity who sees serial murder as a personal hobby, The Collector was the worst Riftling that Josh had to face.
The Angel of Vine: Samuel Tensch is an artist who grew up in France. He was raised by a caretaker until one day he murdered her and tried to turn her into an art exhibit. Unsatisfied with his work, thinking it too crude, Tensch set the caretaker's body ablaze, burning down his house and killing his parents in the process. He moves to Los Angles and becomes a famous artist. He is secretly a Serial Killer, who murders 27 people and uses their blood to create several paintings; his masterpiece is his Angel of Vine, where he murdered a young actress named Marlene Evans, removed her spine and several other bones and used them to create a halo around her head.
The Arkn Mythos: In a Forever War with a vast cast of morally ambiguous characters, a few stand out as the absolute worst:
- The Hooks Killer is among the worst, particularly in the Extended Universe canon.
  - He is a repulsive murderer whose crimes include torture and mutilation; rape—with a particular preference for infants—and consuming the flesh of his victims; he's also been known to make masks from the skin of his victims, in order to hide his own disfigured face. He has part of The Carver's soul in him—and uses the knowledge it bestows to become a "perfect killer", jumping between various timelines and eras and reinventing himself under a different identity in every reality to ensure that he will never get caught. His vast Historical Rap Sheet includes murdering over 100 people as The Dreaded, mysterious Wild West outlaw Barnabelt Kinnard; inflicting torments on an entire kingdom as the English monarch Comshine Orok; and eviscerating an entire religious cult, including his own pregnant sister—whose baby he cut out and devoured was possibly his own—as Adam Spirit. He later becomes a Psycho for Hire, assisting The Carver in his plans; during The Hooks Killer Documentary, he cuts open a young filmmaker who has been making a documentary about Hooks and raises The Carver into his body—possibly while the original host is still alive—allowing him to roam freely throughout .Reality. In one of his final onscreen appearances, Hooks confesses onscreen to having committed 643 murders—in one town—over the past 40 years. His final body count is suggested to be in the thousands.
  - His Universe A incarnation, who may be a descendant of that continuity's original Kinnard, is, while seemingly confined to a single timeline, virtually identical in terms of his sadism, twisted nature, and love of atrocities—such that the Carver himself refers to him as a "monster". This version of Hooks is also Carver's partner and is hinted to have given him a vessel in a similar manner. Not content with this extremely risky act—which, due to The Carver's Hethian power, causes a power surge in .Reality—he decides—just because he could—to go public about the Arkn and Dekn—setting off the May 15th Catastrophe, which causes a system-wide crash that obliterates multiple timelines and countless lives. The last time he's seen onscreen, he guts Michael Knight, sending him to the Infernous to be tormented by the Carver, who then claims him as a vessel. Hooks may be a mere human, but he proves himself to be far more deplorable than most Arkn or Dekn.
- Elius'Exe'Deus, or Elias Exodus, aka Elliot Kenneth, is Asmodeus's teenage, sociopathic, power-hungry Nephilim son. As a child, he and his fellow Nephilim survived genocide by being hidden in a realm called the Hybrid Grounds; once left to his own devices, Elias wasted little time in slaughtering his fellows and absorbing their souls and powers. In 2015, as an amnesiac boy suffering from voices inside his head, Exodus has his powers re-awakened when one of the Dekn who saved him from the massacre, Vine, stops him from committing suicide; once his memories "return", Exodus reveals that he's been faking his amnesia—the "voices" he hears are his victims, screaming inside him, much to his delight—and thanks Vine for saving him by absorbing his powers and trapping him inside a cube Prison Dimension—leaving him to rot in the Hybrid Grounds for eternity. After departing from the Hybrid Grounds, Elias is intent on consuming both Arkn and Dekn to become a living god. He visits his uncle, Raphael Tobit Kestler, tortures him, and sends him to the Vale of Nightmares before murdering Raph's twin brother Tobias, all the while gloating and laughing about having effectively driven his own race to near extinction.
Atop the Fourth Wall: Mechakara is a robot from an Alternate Universe where Linkara's Robot Buddy Pollo turned evil, killed him, and robots overthrew humanity. His plans revolved around sending Linkara into a mental breakdown; and, when that fails, he captures him and plans to kill him slowly, simply because his death went too fast the first time around. While that would normally make him just another killer robot, he stands out when, after getting the magic MacGuffin that he came for, he decides instead to destroy all organic life in the multiverse. During the Silent Hill Dead/Alive videos, Mechakara slowly mind rapes Linkara into thinking he's the (actually long dead) man who tortured his daughter to create Linkara's Magic Gun and almost convinces him to kill himself. In To Boldly Flee, Mechakara passes himself off as Linkara and infiltrates the USS Exit Strategy, intending to kill the entire crew with the help of the forcibly assimilated Todd and Nostalgia Chick. Mechakara would later assimilate the crew of the Caelestis space station and drained the life force of one astronaut in an attempt to recharge the ship. Only working with others when his goals coincide with theirs and perfectly willing to kill them otherwise, Mechakara is fueled only by his hatred for Linkara and all organic life forms.
Blood After Midnight: Kelvin leads an evil cult which seeks to summon a demon, Shadoth, to dominate the world. As the power of the summoning rests in one's right arm, Kelvin has dozens of innocents murdered with their arms taken to use for the ritual. When a reporter named Bryan Cyon gets too close, Kelvin has his friend Vivian murdered and causes a massacre at a hospital to abduct him, before revealing to his followers his true intentions and murdering them all, intending on summoning the demon to control the world himself.
Camouflage: Argile, the corrupt Archbishop of Tigue, is initially portrayed as a self-righteous, hypocritical zealot obsessed with persecuting gay men and [verbally abusing and mocking others, including his own clerics. He enters the story with his previous actions having a grim impact on the setting, and he later accepts Danilo's offer to pay for Luc's "crime" so Danilo can save Luc's life. Argile watches with glee as Danilo goes through with said offer, which is to have one of Danilo's testicles removed. Even after the deed is done, Argile sentences Luc to death anyway and blackmails Danilo to keep him under his control. It is later revealed that Argile has been raping the convicts—many of whom were also castrated under his orders—right before they are executed; Luc is also raped as well before his planned execution. Danilo finally confronts Argile and proposes to save Luc's life again by offering his body to him. Argile responds by sending his servant to strip and tie him, blackmailing him into getting raped anyways and not intending to save Luc's life at all. A complete sociopath with no altruistic qualities, Argile is seen by Danilo as a cautionary tale against homophobia, and what would happen if he did not fight for LGBT rights.
Captain Canuck: Mr. Gold is a petty Arms Dealer who wants to move on to grander things, wanting to possess Captain Canuck's nano tech for himself. Mr. Gold lures Captain Canuck to Ottawa on Canada Day, planting a bomb at Parliament Hill, which endangers thousands of people. Gold does this so his henchman, Blue Fox can get some skin cells from Captain Canuck. When Blue Fox complains about Mr. Gold not telling her about the bomb, Mr. Gold attacks her. Although Mr. Gold claims he wants to use Captain Canuck's nano tech to make the world a better place, it's clear from his thirst for power and disregard for human life that he only cares about himself.
Carmilla the Series:
- Baron Vordenberg from season 2 is an elderly Austrian baron who is a member of the Silas Board of Directors. When he is first introduced, he seems to be a kind and friendly man, despite his apparent disdain for vampires. Once Laura gets him voted as the Chairman of the Board, he immediately shows his true colors by ordering a detainment of all vampires and anything supernatural in Silas University. He has some of the students, including Laura's friend Danny—to whom he lies that he will stop after arresting Carmilla and Mattie—recruited into his militia , and preaches anti-vampire propaganda. It is discovered that, despite the potential consequences, he intends to kill Lophiiformes, all to make a name for himself. After killing Lophiiformes, he intends to execute Carmilla and Mattie, along with any students protecting vampires; the attempted arrest indirectly leads to Mattie's death. After he almost callously shoots one of his men, Laura starts a resistance against him. In the battle, he has his henchman Theo betray them and kill Danny. In the finale, he has the other board members shot over the announcements and prepares to behead Carmilla, in front of Laura and their friends, taunting them all to their faces while doing so. Despite his seemingly doddering demeanor, Vordenberg is far more dangerous than meets the eye, his claims of heroism being lies he tells to fuel his ego, not caring who he has to kill to live out his fantasies of personal glory.
- The Carmilla Movie: Elle Sheridan was a noble woman who, discovering her lover Carmilla was a vampire, betrayed Carmilla to her mother before her death. Unable to cross into the afterlife with the other souls of the sacrifice victims, Elle grew to resent Carmilla and Laura's life together. Elle began to torment Laura with nightmares, luring her, Carmilla, and her friends to her mansion. Gathering the souls, Elle manipulated them into preparing a ritual that would help them move on to the afterlife, with Carmilla willingly giving up her human life. Unbeknownst to them, Elle plans on stealing Carmilla's life for her own, and condemning the rest of the spirits back into the hell dimension forever. Despite her past, it's pointed out she wasn't the only sacrifice and the others never turned evil, with Elle admitting to her jealous and selfish motives, with disdain and indifference to everyone else. Elle picks off Carmilla, Laura and their friends, trapping them in their nightmarish hell; Carmilla's in particular reliving Elle's betrayal over and over again. When Laura rescues her friends and the other ghosts to prepare the ritual, Elle makes one final attempt to disrupt them, holding a knife to Carmilla's throat. Originally seen as a tragic figure of Carmilla's past and even a benevolent force in the first season, Elle ended up becoming a dark far cry of her previous self.
Caught Not Sleeping: The Showtime Killer is a merciless Serial Killer who views the Butterflies as his perfect victims. Having murdered at least 17 people in different cities from the West Coast prior to his involvement with Caught, Showtime makes his presence known by invading chat rooms and demonstrating his knowledge of his targets' private lives. Following a Butterfly, Showtime sends him a disk containing a video titled "The Show Must Go On", which shows the bloodied corpse of one of his victims. In one of his "murder trips", Showtime goes to Seattle and abducts two Butterflies, taking them to a secluded location and torturing them with scissors and other tools while filming their agony. Showtime stands in contrast to other antagonists as an entirely human threat who takes pleasure in hurting defenseless people.
Counter Monkey: Tempus Thales, from the Thieves World story, is the most powerful soldier in the Ranken Empire, and only finds joy in war, murder, and rape. Charged with keeping the peace in the city of Sanctuary, he is initially an ally to the players, torturing twenty guards to death for robbing them. He then starts sending the players on jobs for him, planning on overthrowing the Ranken Prince in charge of the city with their help. Both Tempus and Noah's plans for the players are ruined when one of the players accidentally hits Tempus in the face with acid. His patron goddess then refuses to heal his face until he gets revenge on the players. When Tempus gets fed up with his failed attempts to catch the players, he starts taking more extreme steps, bringing in the Ranken military to brutally punish anyone who breaks the law. He then publicly declares that he will kill a random person every day, before brutally raping one of the players' Love Interest to death, and enacting a massacre on the citizens in the ensuing riot. When the players finally confront him, Tempus kills one of them, declaring that everything is their fault for not turning themselves in, and rips out and eats the heart of another to reclaim his healing.
Crypt TV: Roger is the ultimate villain of The Sunny Family Cult series and revealed to be the founder and original leader of the titular murder cult before being kicked out. First appearing in season 2, Roger goes on an independent killing spree searching for his niece Taylor, tormenting her and her friend Janine and killing Janine's boyfriend. Roger also chases down and maims Allie Anne in an attempt to intimidate her and her mother. Posing as a friendly teacher and detective, Roger gets close to and abducts Taylor. Season 3 reveals that when he first founded the cult, their goals to kill the corrupt and cleanse society were simply an outlet for his own misanthropy. Roger used to bully and abuse his brother Elias into accepting his worldview and authority, threatening and attempting to kill him for his "defiance" before he was defeated and exiled; Roger claimed the cult was his true family, only to decry them when they immediately chose Elias over him. After butchering the guests and staff of a motel, Roger reveals his true goal is a ritual sacrifice to transform him into a "divine being of darkness", and he needs Taylor broken to fulfill that prophecy. When Elias comes to rescue his daughter, Roger fatally wounds Elias before Taylor finally kills him, starting Roger's transformation.
Eclipse: Freiherr Eighinn Stossuhl is a brutish, Trigger-Happy thug who firmly believes that Might Makes Right. In his first appearance, he threatens to attack Cessair, a neutrally-aligned country if they failed to turn in the main character Alice Sitchri. When Sitchri actually leaves peacefully, Stossuhl attacks Cessair anyway, in a war that cost the lives of 86,492 people and eradicated Cessair's entire infrastructure. When he gets hit by a sniper, Stossuhl responds by destroying an entire building; he admitted that the sniper probably wasn't there anyway. He incinerates an entire platoon of his own soldiers when they took too much time to get through a maze. When an injured soldier grabbed his ankle, Stossuhl destroyed his entire upper torso because he was stopped from sprinting. When another soldier offers to patch him up after a fight, Stossuhl pushed his skull into his torso because "Real men never disarm themselves." When an informant reveals that all of his targets had escaped, Stossuhl immediately chokes the informant to death, while still demanding to know where they went. He proceeds to order the eradication of Cessair, and when his colleagues called him out on it, Stossuhl continues the shelling out of spite. At a public speech, Stossuhl attempted to divert his culpability in the invasion by claiming his colleagues supported it, when in fact they didn't. Finally, Stossuhl publicly executed close to a hundred Cessair prisoners—and his own bodyguards—by unleashing a stream of magma that morphed them into a mesh of dry, organic rock.

F – Z

First: Do No Harm: Even before he became a demon, Marshall Eccelstein was a horrific monster of a husband who kept Violet chained to a wall naked and brutally beat her bloody every day. By the time of the story, he has figured out a way to reach Vanilla, Katherine, and Kidari, and sends specialized assassins to kill them and capture his daughter Rosalina, planning on making the assassins torture Violet to death afterwards. When Astaroth turns him into a demon, he rapes and kills Amy and then kills and zombifies Daniel, planning to force Vanilla to kill him. After he is expelled from his body and takes the name Cerununnos, he drives an entire military base insane before driving violent criminals insane and releasing them from prison, taking sick joy in the chaos that ensues. He then begins killing random officers and civilians for fun before being stopped by Vanilla's brother Shoji, learning that there are 16 alive members of the Jackson family in the process. Cerununnos, while planning to kill the Jackson family, encounters a bus and stops it, intending to slaughter everyone on the bus and then kill a family on the bus before being defeated.
Four Kingdoms & Four Kingdoms, Continued: Karju, the Head Boar of the Scrofa tribe, is introduced torturing an adulterous woman by shoving a hot rod into her womb before throwing her into the wilderness, where she dies. When Jabali, his then-fiancée, calls him out on this, he intimidates her before eventually beating her to force her to submit to his will until she runs away, with him giving chase. He proceeds to kill anyone who gets in his way and even stages an invasion of the Aves' city, killing even more people. He eventually has Jabali captured and brought to him, at which point he beats and rapes her. He does this again the next two days; on the third day, he grows tired of her continued "disobedience", and takes a branding iron and brands her like a wild pig. When Jabali's husband, Cal, tries to rescue her, Karju fights him, taunting and toying with him all the while, nearly killing him before Cal's horse, Xanthus, steps in trying to protect Cal only to get himself killed by Karju.
How I Escaped from a Cult: Charlie Stocke was the self-appointed prophet of the Third Reincarnation of the King, as well as the alleged third reincarnation of Christ. Stocke convinced several of his followers into going with him into the wilderness, and he forced them to work eight hours a day. He placed most of the members on the "prayer list" as a means of breaking them into submission, and he purposefully starved them. He later sentenced a married couple to death when they tried to leave the cult, and he also executed the narrator's parents. Four more members died from execution while the remaining members of the TRK either died from starvation or resorted to cannibalism. Stocke eventually tried to orchestrate a mass suicide, but he was ultimately burned alive and eaten.
Kadu'av: The Beginning of the End: The wicked Windsor is a member of the Gilded Cross, a human supremacist group who seek to murder any race who are deemed unclean. Tasked with slaughtering caravans containing Yeshu, Windsor kills plenty of Yeshu people—including children—with sick glee, mocking his partner Jess for refusing to partake in the murders. After butchering another caravan, Windsor waits for Eden and Rachel to arrive and tries to kill them.
The Last Lamia: Dr. Theodore Erswick works for Avatech, aiding their hostile takeover. He assists Avatech in committing mass genocide on the Lamia species to harvest their DNA and use it to genetically modify humans. He experiments with his genetic rewriting by performing horrific and torturous experiments on innocent people just trying to survive, killing them or transforming them into mindless monsters in constant agony. When Rebel leader Xander makes a deal with Erswick to turn over his allies in exchange for Erswick curing his sister Lani's fatal disease, Erswick betrays him and instead kidnaps all four members of the rebel group, injecting them with his experimental formula. He then mocks them as they succumb to the formula's effects, with Lani burning to death from the inside and technician Brec transforming into another monster. When Xander confronts Erswick, Erswick tortures and kills him with a Tesla coil. He then commands the monster to capture the survivor, Jason, for further experimentation.
Legatum:
- Smirvlak's Stone: Lorko Maeliss is the dreaded leader of the Yellow Fang, a gnoll tribe which pillage, rape, and slaughter their way throughout the country of Glorsdale under his cruel direction. With a fondness for rape and torture, Lorko furiously pursues the Corveel brothers and their ally Stilyk after they rob him of a powerful magical stone, massacring the Corveel brothers' village and cutting a wide trail of mayhem and murder across the countryside with countless creatures slaughtered by his gnolls. Possessed of a propensity to murder his own minions for any reason he can think of, Lorko tosses unending waves of them to their own deaths, personally butchers many of them for simply contending his authority, and enslaved his adviser after having massacred her family and "tamed" her by letting the other female gnolls rape her into terrified submission. In the end, after using what remains of his own band as suicide bombers to create a distraction wide enough for him to corner and rape Nickolas Corveel, Lorko reveals his designs to use the stolen stone to conquer the entire planet and annihilate millions, fancying himself the god of a new age where all who oppose him are crushed.
- Help Not Wanted: Ogrell Syn'Gorrsh, seemingly a simple-minded ogre in search of his missing daughter, harbors a much, much darker secret. Ogrell is in fact a Serial Killer, having already long ago butchered and ate his own daughter after her whining annoyed him to the point of violence, following up with his wife and then countless innocents afterwards he lured in or kidnapped to brutally murder and eat. Not satisfied with simply killing and eating his victims, Ogrell psychologically and physically tortures them for weeks on end, with a priest Ogrell's left a skinned, maimed mess and a goblin Ogrell reduced to a feral monster only a few of his endless menagerie of victims. When the goblin contractors he lured in try and stop him, Ogrell beats a child to death in front of one of them to lure him out and later tries to simply murder them all himself after his first attempt to break them fails, laughing away their morals and simply telling them they're all animals at heart like him.
- Scrambled Egg: Trellorv, a disgusting, monstrous troll who–-after having butchered his parents and his entire village for being punished for his first murder of a mentally-handicapped troll—had an existential crisis which led to him avowing himself to what he feels is the source of joy in life: wanton carnage. Trellorv dismembered a priest shortly after confessing his sins and went on to murder and rape hundreds of people for pleasure, even desecrating a settlement and leaving a portion of the populace not killed but maimed to near-death, begging to be mercy-killed. After he met the omnicidal mage Sonya, Trellorv plans to betray her to take the mystical egg she's seeking and initiate an apocalypse of his own to bask in the everlasting suffering that follows.
Mirror World: Syrile—real name Ishirō Hamada, a former member of Unit 731—is a member of House Dusk and one of Korva's minions. Obsessed with perfecting the devoiding process, Syrile resurrected hundreds of corpses and experimented on them, not caring that the reanimated bodies became sapient and were fully aware of all the torture that Syrile put them through. Syrile even went as far as arranging fatal accidents on various inhabitants of Inoptica just so he could use their bodies for future experiments. After kidnapping Geiger, Syrile forces Vita to assist him with his plans, only to later take her hostage as a bargaining chip when House Midnight attacks House Dusk's stronghold. Eager to save his own hide, Syrile kills Razmin before teaming up with House Dawn and offering to expose the secrets of the other three Houses. Even after Syrile becomes human again and returns home, all he can think about are the ghastly experimentations he plans on conducting in the future.
The Pirates Covered in Fur: Captain Lyle Krinkor is the vicious leader of an army of pirates. Wanting to start his own empire, Lyle amasses his entire army and leads an assault on Diamond City. Thousands perish during his initial attack; the survivors are all taken hostage by Lyle's troops and stowed away in a hotel. As his troops continue to destroy the city, Lyle instructs one of his lieutenants to set off a bomb on the bridge the survivors are using for evacuation. After the bridge is demolished and Lyle personally kills three of Michum's friends, he orders Pryllic to start killing all the hostages in the hotel; shortly afterwards, he also contacts Michum and brags about how his friends are all dead. During his final confrontation with Michum and Tully, he beheads Pryllic for failing to defeat them in combat, then proceeds to fatally wound Tully and subdues Michum. Even after defeating Michum, Lyle proceeds to taunt him over his loss.
Red Vs Blue:
- Chairman Malcom Hargrove is the corrupt CEO of Charon Industries. Using his position, Hargrove illegally used UNSC soldiers as a private security force. Starting up investigation against Project Freelancer, Hargrove used it to take Freelancer's technology for his own use while arresting anyone involved in the project, even going as far as releasing a serial killer from prison to help him. Finding alien artifacts on the planet Chorus, he hired a group of Space Pirates to kill everyone on the planet by manipulating them into a Civil War. He sent ships containing cargo for the mercenaries to use to the planet, where the mercs killed everyone on the ship and steal the cargo for their own use. When the Reds and Blues got involved, Hargrove took advantage by having them escalate the conflict with the intention to kill them when they were no longer necessary. When the mission was jeopardized, he threatened to kill his lead mercs by sending a new agent to finish the job. When exposed, he decided to kill as many of the people as possible out of spite rather than surrender.
- Sigma, representing the Alpha's ambition and creativity, is the most evil AI in the Meta. Interested in becoming human, Sigma gradually took over the mind of Agent Maine and increased his violence. He also manipulated Agent Carolina into getting two AI, leading to a mental breakdown, and helped torture the Alpha. Using Maine, Sigma stole Carolina's AI before nearly killing her. As part of the Meta, Sigma hunted down other Freelancer's for their equipment and AI. The AI would be forcibly implanted into the Meta, whether they were willing or not. He also slaughtered multiple simulation teams as well as any recovery agents encountered. In a final bid to steal the Alpha, Sigma and the Meta attacked Freelancer Command, killing everyone stationed there and cornering and almost killing Agent Washington. Even with his destruction by EMP, Sigma's manipulation ensured that the broken Maine would continue to act as the Meta.
- Felix, real name Isaac Gates, is a Psycho for Hire with a love for killing. When he fought in the Great War, he never showed any mercy to his enemies, even those that were trying to surrender. When one of his teammates, Locus, was broken by the war, Felix kept him from getting help and molded him into his partner. Hired to create a Civil War on the planet Chorus, the mercenary took pleasure in infiltrating one the sides while he was leading them to their deaths. He also led the raid on a prison ship where the entire crew is killed and the prisoners who are not worthy to join forces with him ejected from the ship. Hearing about the Purge, he was unable to resist being the one to personally kill off everyone, showing that he doesn't care about the orders and more about just killing for the hell of it, perfectly willing to sacrifice his own men to do so. When the Purge temple was destroyed, Felix pointlessly went after the Reds and Blues just so he can kill them.
- Genkins "The Trickster" was part of a false pantheon of God's "cosmic powers" meant to trick other species. He grew bored with the "mundane" nature of the universe and so eagerly accepts the titan Chrovos's offer of legitimate godhood in return for helping him out of the eternal prison. He then uses time travel abilities given by Chrovos to set off a chain of events and setting the Reds and Blues up. Later, he exploited Wash's PTSD he gained from a battle injury to deteriorate his mental state. To ensure Wash had a mental breakdown when he found out, Carolina kept how bad the injury was a secret, thus inspiring the Reds and Blues to go back in time to stop the injury. When the cosmic Agent Huggins finds out that they intend to alter time and attempts to tell the cosmic powers, Genkins sadistically murdered her by generating a mini black hole—knowing black holes were her biggest fear. After confronting and revealing his true nature to Grif in the past, he makes Grif think the team won giving his friends enough time to save wash...only for Genkins to reveal he wanted them to save Wash as doing so would cause a time paradox, thereby shattering time to free Chrovos. He succeeds as time shatters, freeing Chrovos and allowing Chrovos and himself to remake the universe In Their Own Image.
RWBY:
- Cinder Fall is the mysterious villain of the first three volumes. Working for Salem in her mission to be "strong, feared and powerful", Cinder recruited two young fighters named Mercury and Emerald, attacking Amber, the Fall Maiden, to drain her of her powers. In the Vytal tournament, Cinder exploits Emerald's powers of illusions to make the noble warrior Pyrrha accidentally rip apart the sentient robot Penny with her magnetism power, before using the ensuing panic to let the Grimm attack Vale and Beacon Academy—commenting how "beautiful" the carnage is while having the attack filmed. Murdering Amber to take the rest of her powers, Cinder defeats Pyrrha in a pitched fight before coldly executing her with an arrow that burns her from the inside out. Injured by Ruby's White Eye powers, Cinder recovers in volume five where she coerces Raven and her tribe to join Salem, later sadistically mocking Jaune over Pyrrha's murder, impaling Weiss in front of Jaune to put another death on his conscience, and killing Raven's apprentice Vernal to take her Spring Maiden powers for herself. Cruel and ambitious, Cinder leaves the kingdoms and alliances of Remnant shattered in her quest for power.
- Adam Taurus is the embodiment of spite and cruelty. A high-ranking member of the Faunus liberation group the White Fang, Adam begins verging into extremist terrorist attacks with no care for innocents who die, prompting his Love Interest Blake Belladonna to flee the group. Adam later assists in the aforementioned attack on Beacon Academy, during the Vytal Festival, unleashing Grimm on the city. When encountering Blake, Adam vows to kill everything she loves, maiming Yang when she tries to defend Blake and trying to murder Blake herself. When the high leader of the White Fang, Sienna Khan, objects to what Adam has done, Adam murders her and takes her place before ordering Blake's family killed to "keep his promise" to her. Adam then leads a White Fang attack to destroy Haven Academy, spitefully attempting to detonate explosives to kill himself, Blake and all the Faunus present, White Fang or innocent, when he's cornered by the authorities. Adam later savagely slaughters his own former followers of the White Fang when they question him and returns to stalking Blake, hellbent on murdering her and making her suffer for "ruining his life".
The Strange Cases of Detective Jackson Valley:
- A body was found in Chamberlain Park: Vincent Stone tracks down struggling people, offering to pay off their debt by loan, then having his nephew, Zach, kill them when they fail to repay. When word of a man's death reaches the police, Vincent threatens to murder his own nephew if he does not kill the man's wife before she talks to the cops. After Zach gets caught by the police, Vincent has one of his "suicide goons" kill Zach and himself to tie up loose ends.
- Velak: The titular Velak is a sadistic demon and servant of Lucifer. Having the power to possess people, Velak likes taking over couples and having them kill their loved ones before offing them as well, with his victims fully aware of what's happening. Participating in Lucifer's plan to destroy all life in the multiverse and dethrone God, Velak is awakened by Lucifer and goes on a killing spree, slaughtering multiple people, including an entire family. When Lucifer threatens him with damnation should he not kill Jackson Valley, Velak possesses Valley’s kindly neighbor Georgina and tries to murder him.
TalesFromTheSpidersWeb: Clowny is an utter monstrous Psycho for Hire tormenting David and his friends for fun. A cannibalistic Serial Killer, Clowny was revealed to have been the one behind the disappearance of Madison White. Initially appearing to be a simple hacker, Clowny proved himself to be much more than that by visiting David's underage friend, Chance, and stabbing him to death, burning his parents alive in a house fire which he had started. Setting his eyes on Kyle, he did the same to his relative, savagely devouring his body afterwards. An animal in human skin, Clowny overshadows his compatriots in terms of sheer cruelty and brutality.
To Welcome Oblivion:
- Nyarlathotep is the ultimate architect of the plot's conflict and a wicked Outer God who delights in nothing more than madness and misery. As the herald of Azathoth, Nyarlathotep has plunged countless universes and trillions of lives into eternal agony within the grip of the Outer Planes, with entire planets and civilizations driven to destroy themselves under his influence. On Earth, Nyarlathotep arranges events like The Black Death and the rise of Adolf Hitler for his own amusement, and seamlessly arranges the events of the plot by setting up the rise of both Peter Grallman and Dr. Lilith Madison into their positions, the former by killing his young sister Marissa to drive Grallman to darkness. Arranging the opening of the Outer Gate while disguised as Madison's assistant Noah T. Trepaly, Nyarlathotep eventually betrays both Grallman and Madison, torturing the former into his possessed slave and unleashing the populace of the Outer Planes onto Rielington. Finally cutting loose in the climax, Nyarlathotep slaughters thousands of people in the most creatively depraved ways he can think of—such as tricking an cafeteria's worth of children into cannibalize themselves and forcing hundreds of the Old Brotherhood's members to become either breeding fodder or food for the eldritch monsters he summons—and attempts to plunge the entire universe into the Outer Planes, and finally gloats to Grallman as one last spiteful move that he'll resurrect Marissa and torture and rape her for centuries in Grallman's form to hurt the both of them. With a mile-long sadistic streak underscored by a psychopathic sense of humor, Nyarlathotep commits every atrocity he does purely to satisfy his sense of amusement, intent on one day betraying even the Outer Gods to torment the rest of the multiverse himself.
- Dr. Lilith Madison is a callous sociopath of a scientist with an utter disdain for any life other than her own. Obsessed with finding out the secret to life at any cost, Madison turns to murder in some desperate attempt to stimulate herself—the deliberate suffocation of an infant she is trusted to take care of just one example—before eventually finding out the existence of a Deep One's carcass in the Antarctic. Killing her own research team to use the carcass for her own ends, Madison allies with the Old Brotherhood and its leader Grallman to kidnap hundreds of innocents and forcibly implant them with organs from the Deep One to spread Eldritch Energy across the world, more often than not resulting in the painful deaths of those forced to bear the transplants. Causing a series of bombings that lead to over 250 deaths to cover the actions of the psychopathic Rhett Talbot, Madison eventually unleashes Talbot onto Rielington to slaughter and rape as he will to take care of the Seratin sisters and their ally Robin Lockwood. Ultimately, Madison betrays Grallman and tries to open a gate to the Outer Planes in her attempt to find the secret to existence, fully willing to let the denizens of the Outer Planes pour out on Earth and ravage humanity in the process.
- The aforementioned Rhett Talbot is a sadistic supervillain and the Arch-Enemy for Elara and Kaya Seratin. As a teenager, Talbot raped and molested several children while posing as a babysitter. After he was taken by the Old Brotherhood and experimented on, he used his newfound powers to murder his parents, and later conducted a series of massacres—one of which took place at a playground Kaya was playing at, where he cut off her arms and attempted to rape her—all for his own enjoyment. Several years later, Talbot goes after the Seratins again, where he murders several civilians and police officers in and around a restaurant. Talbot also participates in raping and killing members of the Brotherhood alongside the eldritch monsters in the breeding chamber, and when he's confronted by the Seratins again, he tries to kill them both. Even after Sera tells Talbot that Madison and Nyarlathotep are going to destroy the whole universe, Talbot coldly tells her that he doesn't care, moments before he tries to rape her.
T.O.T.: Maximus Slade is a childish, sadistic werewolf with a love for all things destructive and whatever he deems "fun". His evil ways extending back to his childhood of torturing animals and ultimately strangling his best friend to death, Maximus was turned into a werewolf in his teenage years, and has spent all his time since indulging in whatever violent impulses his heart desires. On Halloween night in a small neighborhood, Maximus goes on a rampage, something he implies he has done plenty times before, slaughtering dozens of men, women, and children, devouring parts of their bodies, and littering the streets with their corpses. Along the way, Maximus tries to force a teenager to murder his friends, massacres an entire police station, and decorates trees with children's disemboweled bodies. To make his night extra "fun," Maximus plays a sick game with a group of young friends, culminating in him ripping one's chest open and burning another alive while attempting to force his parents to listen as he dies. Though claiming numerous times to just be having fun and play games, Maximus is nothing but a vile monster who puts his own lust for carnage and killing over the lives of countless innocents.
Whateley Universe:
- Deathlist is a psychopathic, Nigh-Invulnerable Cyborg who gets off on widespread carnage and considers the world to owe him a debt of pain. The most horrific thing he's done so far was to kidnap a mutant superheroine, jam a power-neutralizing device into her skull, then hack off her arms and legs and give her to his troops as a sex toy. Then, when she died after more than a month of torture and rape, he impaled her corpse on a pole with a thank-you message to one of her former teammates carved into her chest. Not even his Freudian Excuse—that his parents tried to kill him by crushing him in a garbage compactor—nets him any sympathy after that.
- Hekate is a wizardess supervillain-in-training whose rap sheet includes using a spell to enslave two of her classmates for a year, during which they were repeatedly raped and otherwise abused while being completely aware of what was happening but powerless to stop it, as well as the fact that the athamé she used in the spell was empowered by the ritual sacrifice of two young children. Not only that, but during a magical battle with Fey, after trying and failing to ensnare her in the same enslavement spell mentioned earlier, she summons a trio of iron elementals using the promise of dozens of future sacrifices. To top all that off, she used her athamé to stab Jade in the heart beforehand, just to torment Fey.
Worm: Jack Slash is a psychopath obsessed with being remembered throughout history as one of the most wicked human beings to have ever lived. The leader of the Slaughterhouse Nine, a group of superpowered serial killers, Jack uses them to cause death and destruction across the country, regularly wiping out huge cities and their entire populations just for fun. Routinely looking to replace current members of the Nine with stronger individuals, Jack and the Nine subject any possible candidates to horrific "tests" in an attempt to corrupt them into evil, these "tests" ranging from psychological torture to murdering the candidates' friends and family in front of them. Along with massacring hundreds of innocents at a time and carving numbers into them to keep a kill count, Jack targets a hospital and, before murdering all of the staff and sickly patients, has the Nine kill off the entire maternity ward, while threatening a hero's baby sister to keep him in line. Using an army of superpowered puppets as his minions, Jack uses them to inflict horrible And I Must Scream fates on innocents, wipe out dozens of civilians, and plans to send them out into the world with the simple order to kill everything in sight. Even when beaten, Jack uses his secondary power of manipulation to convince Scion to kill billions of people across the multiverse as a final act of villainy. With a pathological lust for notoriety and a sadistic streak a mile long, Jack Slash committed his various atrocities for no reason other than his own amusement, and was more than happy to embrace his position as the catalyst for the end of the world.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015

#165453: Jun 1st 2019 at 9:50:21 AM

to Nyarlathotep. How many incarnations does he have by now? Almost makes me want to keep track of which characters have the most CM incarnations.

Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Jun 1st 2019 at 10:54:27 AM

VeryVileVillian (Apprentice)

#165454: Jun 1st 2019 at 9:54:30 AM

to Nyarlathotep

Okay, i'm now asking for help, is there anyone who have read The Saga of Avatar Korra fanfic?

Because, judging from the writeup:

The Legend of Korra fanfiction The Saga of Avatar Korra: Ming-Hua is an unrepentant Sadist who gleefully takes every opportunity to physically and psychologically abuse Korra. She also lacks any of the likeable traits that her canon counterpart held and instead is shown to be needlessly cruel to both allies and enemies alike such as when she advocated for the needless punishment of the Red Lotus sentries who were stationed at the compound during Korra's escape and P'Li and Ghazan believe that she will want to "get rid" of Korra after she has served her purpose. Her malevolent tendencies are shown to not be a recent occurrence as flashback segments show that she felt nothing but excitement at the prospect of murdering a young Iroh in his bed. In the present day events of the story there are also several times where she needs to be verbally restrained or reprimanded by Zaheer or other Red Lotus members for her often pointless cruelty such as killing animals in front of Korra during water-bending lessons. When Korra chooses to turn against the Red Lotus, Ming calls P'Li and Ghazan weak for feeling any emotional attachment or reluctance to attack the girl whom was essentially raised by the Red Lotus and threatens to kill them if they defect from the Red Lotus. While the goals of the Red Lotus could be considered noble if unachievable, Ming never shows any interest in the ideological quest of the Red Lotus to bring freedom to the world and appears to only be interested in sating her own bloodlust. Cruel and sadistic, Ming-Hua is in many ways the living incarnation of the moral failures of the Red Lotus and one of several contributing factors for Korra's defection.

It doesn't look like she is heinous enough to count, as it never said if she did actually killed anyone aside from some animals. All others she only tried to kill. And writeup is focused on her lacking redeeming qualities compared to fellow Red Lotus members and not on how she stand out heinous wise.

Edited by VeryVileVillian on Jun 1st 2019 at 7:55:02 PM

falcontalons from Earth-2 Since: Apr, 2019

#165455: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:34:37 AM

Abstaining on Nyarly for now; I'm not sure if his goals are explicit enough.

Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You

Showtime!

#165456: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:35:33 AM

to everyone I missed

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?

ReynTime250 Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA

#165457: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:37:17 AM

Nyarly

I still don't think he has many CM incarnations as Red Skull, Joker and Carnage.

papyru30 The wifi here sucks from South Dakota for school Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form

The wifi here sucks

#165458: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:41:34 AM

Nyarly There's also Hitler and Satan.

Hope your prepared for an unforgettable luncheon

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009

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#165459: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:52:36 AM

Carnage I think only has 6. Hitler I think's also in single digits. Now, Brainiac has a whole bunch.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015

#165460: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:54:54 AM

I think Dracula's got a lot too.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009

Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster

#165461: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:59:11 AM

Interestingly, Apocalypse only has 4 (well, technically 6, as his comic incarnation will be split into three soon).

Don't forget Jack the Ripper.

As for Hitler, I know Reinhard Heydrich and Himmler also have several incarnations.

Edited by ACW on Jun 1st 2019 at 2:00:26 PM

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xie323 Since: Jul, 2009

#165462: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:03:03 AM

I'd say Red Skull, Darkseid, Brainiac, Joker for most profilic C Ms. Satan as well due to how ingrained Christianity is in our belief systems.

With regards to incarnations of historical figures....I'd say Jack the ripper. Hitler and Stalin are only on single digits not counting expies, and even then there are expies with single redeeming qualities or don't do much themselves.

Oh speaking of Himmler and Heydrich:

In The New Order Last Days Of Europe, he survived the attempt on his life in 1942. In the 1960's he leads the German SS, and is one of the contenders for the Führership in the Civil War after Hitler dies. He's the least likely to win, however, as he lacks any real public support due to the fact that he's under the thumb of Heinrich Himmler, a man considered absolutely insane even by Nazi standards.

Worth checking out this mod's incarnation of Heydrich when this mod releases. The game's incarnation of Himmler is also worth a discussion since his endgoal is essentially nuclear genocide of everyone through starting WW3.

Edited by xie323 on Jun 1st 2019 at 11:08:52 AM

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

Shin Megami Tensei IV

#165463: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:08:53 AM

Me waiting for Xie' TNO EPs be like

I am really looking foward for that discussion. And I need to learn Mandarin

Edited by KazuyaProta on Jun 1st 2019 at 1:10:41 PM

Watch me destroying my country

papyru30 The wifi here sucks from South Dakota for school Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form

The wifi here sucks

#165464: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:10:09 AM

ACW's right about Hitler, the more I think about it, the more I realize that a lot of stories have Nazi CMs but many of them aren't Hitler.

Hope your prepared for an unforgettable luncheon

VeryVileVillian (Apprentice)

#165465: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:13:43 AM

Okay, since not that many people have read this apparently, may i propose Ming-Hua for a cut then?

Here is her writeup once again:

Once again, i say it doesn't look like she is heinous enough to count, as it never said if she did actually killed anyone aside from some animals. All her other deeds is trying to kill few people. And writeup is focused on her lacking redeeming qualities compared to fellow Red Lotus members and not on how she stand out heinous wise.

Edited by VeryVileVillian on Jun 1st 2019 at 9:17:11 PM

xie323 Since: Jul, 2009

#165466: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:14:03 AM

Speaking of TNO, I think if we ever get a subpage for game mods, C Ms from Hearts of Iron mods will take up the bulk of the characters that are upvoted for that subpage.

Edited by xie323 on Jun 1st 2019 at 11:14:48 AM

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

Shin Megami Tensei IV

#165467: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:14:33 AM

Yeah, that reads more as a "damn, she is a jerk" rather than "she is pure evil"

Watch me destroying my country

xie323 Since: Jul, 2009

#165468: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:15:05 AM

Cut Ming-Hua

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature

#165469: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:16:03 AM

Everybody from the Stranglers to Nyarly

Ming-Hua

ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015

#165470: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:18:26 AM

What really surprises me is that we don't have any Mao Zedong CMs AFAIK.

Abstain on Ming-Hua pending further discussion on her heinousness.

Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Jun 1st 2019 at 11:20:45 AM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009

Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster

#165471: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:20:36 AM

Ditto

I'll submit the Web Originals folderization tomorrow.

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010

#165472: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:21:06 AM

Someone have a link to the EP for Ming-hua?

VeryVileVillian (Apprentice)

#165473: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:22:49 AM

It doesn't look like she was EP-ed at all. Judging by the writeup and the fact it was not ACW who added her, but another user.

Edited by VeryVileVillian on Jun 1st 2019 at 9:25:16 PM

ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015

#165474: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:49:23 AM

You know, since we brought up Hitler a little while back, I think I might know of a version of Der Fuehrer who qualifies. I'll give him an examination, and if I think he meets the criteria, I'll EP him.

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014

#165475: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:53:04 AM

Best wishes Bullman!

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