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    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#193451: Oct 7th 2022 at 6:55:20 PM

Let me put it this way: Followers and High Priests are outdated profile details.

For an explanation: Followers and High Priests were additions that served as, according to the former profile detail sheets:

  • "High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope."

Problem is that what is the point of adding them? The additions are more of "oh we did not pick these characters because of the current one so here are some who did not make the cut" sort. Its annoying and adds nothing new to the table. As a result, the Followers and High Priest thing is vestigial on the long run. It also does not help that people use High Priests and Followers additions to add characters that they want to hype about or put recent characters in for a mention. Which again, proves my point that hype culture still exists in the forum, despite telling numerous times over and over to cut it out.

Its all so tiresome.

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Oct 7th 2022 at 10:26:42 PM

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
mdalsted mdalsted from Chisago City, MN Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity
mdalsted
#193452: Oct 7th 2022 at 7:05:52 PM

[up]So the best course of action is to delete stuff without consulting the thread on the matter first?

Edited by mdalsted on Oct 7th 2022 at 9:06:05 AM

Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.
CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon
#193453: Oct 7th 2022 at 7:13:08 PM

All that justification for something so inoffensive overall. Goodness.

@ Q*Bert, Venus: [tup]

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.
r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#193454: Oct 7th 2022 at 7:22:09 PM

[up][up] You say that, yet you deleted Kuzco's profile after "Everything's Better With Llamas" was deleted as a trope without consulting the forum on what alternate trope to give him.

That said, Kuzco was in need of a rework if his profile was any indication and I'm willing to reinstate him for Pride Before a Fall. Kuzco is a very arrogant emperor who gets turned into a llama following a botched attempt by Yzma to kill him and overthrow him from power. What follows is him enduring comedic hardships as a llama as he learns to become a better person.

Looking at Onaga's profile (which was discussed here after "Iconic Logo" was deleted as a trope), his profile wasn't much better in terms of flavor text quality and I feel the better choice would have been to ask who would rework him so that he could stay in addition to finding an appropriate trope for him if deleting him won't suffice.

HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#193455: Oct 7th 2022 at 7:25:09 PM

Really funny when you think about it. People call me out for deleting something without notice and yet other tropers have shown here to delete profiles without justification.

I wonder how many skeletons (or should I say profiles) in the closet are the other tropers hiding.

[up][tup] On Kuzco's rework and Onaga's reevaluation as well as for Q*bert.

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Oct 7th 2022 at 10:26:26 PM

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#193456: Oct 7th 2022 at 7:31:47 PM

[up]That being said, I would like to offer a rework profile for you, Mr. Hamana. The Arbiter from Halo. You can have him if you’d like, I probably won’t get to him any time soon.

Time to explore the world!
mdalsted mdalsted from Chisago City, MN Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity
mdalsted
#193457: Oct 7th 2022 at 7:36:06 PM

@r-lock: I will admit, I screwed up regarding Kuzco and Onaga. I will try not to repeat that mistake. Do feel free to rework Kuzco's profile, though, and Onaga's, if you're willing; I know I'd welcome it.

Edited by mdalsted on Oct 7th 2022 at 9:37:03 AM

Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.
CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#193458: Oct 7th 2022 at 7:39:41 PM

[up] I may as well fetch Onaga's profile and store it in a second sandbox. ATM, he's not a priority for me and I want to preferably do Horror-themed profiles for Halloween... and fill up Hawkman and Hawkgirl ASAP.

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#193459: Oct 7th 2022 at 7:47:47 PM

@ r-lock: Didn't know that trope was removed. I approve of your rework idea

Got a few ideas. I want to know which of them you guys think is an appropriate choice/if you have a choice for your own for the trope

  • Arcanine, God of Asian Lion Dogs: Arcanine is a stout, maned, and tiger-striped canines based on Japanese iterations of the temple lion statues. They're very brave and extremely loyal to their trainer, and very territorial in the bargain. Before Earth Drift, Arcanine was even said to be found in China. It later got a regional variant with a fluffy mane as Growlithe and a Rock typing, with Hisuian Arcanine having a prominent horn and jaw. Basically making it even closer to the asian lion dog archetype
  • Flint and Volkner, Co-Gods Of Fire-Electric Juxtapositions (Hall of Elemental Pairings)-Flint and Volkner are an Elite 4 and Gym Leader who specialize in the Fire and Electric types. They're close friends and powerful trainers with contrasting personalities; Flint is the Hot-Blooded type and Volkner is solemn and The Stoic. In Platinum their aces are the Magby and Elekid line, which are parallels of each other
  • Rosine, Goddess of Hating Adults (Hall of Contempt, Neutral Evil)-Rosine is a young Apostle who came from an abused background, with her Deal with the Devil being a Changeling Fantasy. Wanting to live in her little False Utopia, Rosine believes that adults are rotten and evil and she wants Jill to join her away from them

M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#193460: Oct 7th 2022 at 7:57:10 PM

I would understand Hamana more on his argument if I didnt notice how selective his cullings were. Like, if you’re advocating for the death of two flavor text sections, then why put a selection under scrutiny than a whole? Makes zero sense unless prejudice against some works took precedent before prejudice against a section.

It would be like going to through a paragraph I hate, removing all mentions of dogs on it, before advocating for the paragraph’s removal. Sound ridiculous, no?

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Oct 7th 2022 at 8:02:21 AM

Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.
CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#193461: Oct 7th 2022 at 8:44:25 PM

[up][up] Abstaining on Arcanine and Rosine. That said, I'm not feeling that Flint and Volkner would be good examples for Lightning/Fire Juxtaposition.


I'm gonna focus on another matter entirely. I simply don't want to be involved in a stormy mess and considering I had my birthday back on the 5th, I'd rather not let it get to me.


I wanted to post this some time ago, but here it is, my first draft for Hawkman and Hawkgirl.

For suggestions, I'm looking for those who are destined to reincarnate and die with each life as well as examples of Reincarnation Romance. I would also like to see suggestions regarding any archaeologists, bird-themed figures, heroic birds, Eternal Heroes (they work on the same principle as reincarnation IMO) members of heroic teams, figures of Ancient Egypt, and Eternal Villains.

Of course, any other thoughts and ideas are more than welcome.


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Carter Hall and Shiera Sanders, Divine Couple of Reincarnation (Carter: Hawkman, Prince Khufu Kha-Tarr, Katarthul, Nighthawk, Silent Knight, Koenraad von Grimm, Captain John Smith, James Wright, The Birdman, Gold Hawk, Avion, Dragon of Barbatos, Sky Tyrant, The Winged Wonder, "The Flying Fascist", "The Man Who Fights the Evils of the Present with the Weapons of the Past" | Shiera: Hawkgirl, Hawkwoman, Chay-Ara, Shayera Thal, Shayera Hol, Shhra, Kendra Saunders, Pretty Bird)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/3003982_0034621109_tumbl.jpg
Hawkman (above) and Hawkgirl (below)

Edited by CrimsonShark on Oct 7th 2022 at 4:47:10 PM

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#193462: Oct 7th 2022 at 8:49:42 PM

[up] Usagi Tsukino and Mamoru Chiba were Queen Serenity and Prince Endymion in their past lives, who lovers who dies in tragic circumstances and were reborn to be together again.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#193463: Oct 7th 2022 at 8:52:03 PM

[up][up]For Eternal Villains, There are Chaos, The Lich and GOLB, William Afton/Springtrap, Ganondorf and Demise, Sigma and Apocalypse.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Oct 7th 2022 at 8:55:16 AM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#193464: Oct 7th 2022 at 9:24:52 PM

Also, just saying it here. I’m fine with High Priests. The Followers I have a little more difficulty trusting,

@Crimson: Hawkman and Hawkgirl could have an interesting relationship with the X-Men, due to their similarities to Warren Worthington III/Angel.

Time to explore the world!
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#193465: Oct 7th 2022 at 10:34:14 PM

@ Crimson: OK, as a reply to your comments on Padme I have another grouping of different costumes by her. Judge for yourself: which of these two images is better to show off her wardrobe

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/padme_3.png

OR

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/img_6377.jpg

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 8th 2022 at 4:34:26 AM

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#193466: Oct 7th 2022 at 10:38:09 PM

[up] The first image is better. While there are less costumes shown, the quality is better does its job in emphasizing the second trope Padme holds.

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#193467: Oct 8th 2022 at 2:33:08 AM

[up]Alrighty

@ Hawks: Not sure what you'd want to do with it, but Finn is a hero who has reincarnated many times starting with a comet. The Omnicidal Maniac Lich is was a Comet of Doom eventually reborn and his latest evil scheme was to end the cycle of reincarnation so life couldn't recover from his devestation. Yu-Gi-Oh! has some more complicated reincarnations

CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon
#193468: Oct 8th 2022 at 2:58:21 AM

@ Hawks: Enemies with Strahd von Zarovich. When he was mortal, Strahd was in love with a woman named Tatyana but she instead fell for Strahd's younger brother, Sergei. Envy consumed Strahd and he convinced himself Tatyana fell for Sergei for his youth and worked to become a vampire. Strahd accomplished this by killing Sergei on his wedding day and drinking his blood, prompting Tatyana to jump to her death to escape him.

Barovia's inhabitants are trapped in a reincarnation cycle, Tatyana included. Strahd is always seeking out her reincarnation to marry her but she always dies just as she's within his reach. Though fruitless, Strahd continues his schemes so they may one day reunite.

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018
#193470: Oct 8th 2022 at 4:39:27 AM

[up] two reasons. One, because Reincarnation was chosen. Two, someone else expressed their idea for Reincarnation Romance.

KaoticKanine from Vania of Pencils Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#193471: Oct 8th 2022 at 6:08:18 AM

@Hawks- They would be enemies with Cthulhu, who would remind them of Icthultu, whom the Thanagarians worshipped until getting sick of the sacrifices he demanded. And that's assuming Cthulhu and Icthultu aren't one in the same.

For other reincarnation interactions, there's the whole Asura's Wrath cast, save for Chakravartin and Gohma Vlitra, who all reincarnated into the modern day. Asura in particular would get along well with the winged couple since he too experienced Reincarnation Romance.

And if you can find a way to work him in, there's the King of Sorrow, who was reborn as a baby in Lunatea after his death. Assuming rebirth isn't too different from reincarnation.

lawliet-saw-whet Resident Trope Lurker from Your Head, In Your Head, Zombie, Zombie Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Resident Trope Lurker
#193472: Oct 8th 2022 at 6:13:44 AM

@CrimsonShark - For the Hawks:

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Oct 8th 2022 at 11:09:17 PM

Mood Status: Currently suffering from cringe.
m-95 Har har har from my place of residence Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Har har har
#193473: Oct 8th 2022 at 12:08:56 PM

Dumb Question Time:

What does it mean if a character or trope is "Reserved"? I noticed one trope I considered doing a profile for that was in a user's sandbox, not with a proper draft, but only labeled as "Reserved" for a character. Does that mean that the trope is off-limits for everyone else or what?

Please visit the "AITA" forum game
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#193474: Oct 8th 2022 at 12:12:14 PM

[up]Pretty much. Though there is a possibility they could let it go if you discussed it with them.

AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018
#193475: Oct 8th 2022 at 12:40:38 PM

@Crimson Shark, The Ninja Turtles befriended and allied with a man named Raptarr, a member of the Avian Race and Expy of Hawkman (as well as Angel). Nathaniel Richards/Kang the Conqueror essentially started his Time-Travelling Conqueror career as a Nepharious Pharaoh in Ancient Egypt. Technically he still is, and potentially may once again be Rama-Tut. It's complicated

Edited by AzureLegacy on Oct 8th 2022 at 3:42:05 PM


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