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  • Accidental Innuendo: Arthur's line about his sword to the Lady of the Lake sound like he was Compensating for Something.
    Arthur Pendragon: I need my sword, my Lady. I am not whole without Excalibur.
  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Just how evil is Xanatos exactly? Is he even truly evil, or just really, really, REALLY misguided and, in his own way, lacking for social skills?
      • Many of his deeds are understandable From a Certain Point of View, but what he arranged for his trusting employee, Derek Maza, is definitely villainous.
      • Xanatos is never cruel for cruelty's sake, but he can and will do terrible things to innocent people if it benefits him.
      • Is Xanatos truly redeemed or does he see that allying himself with the Gargoyles benefits him more than going against them? While The Goliath Chronicles went with the former interpretation, the canon comic books lean more towards the latter. Or maybe somewhere in between?
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    • Is Demona a tragic villain that deserves as much sympathy as her backstory provides or has her atrocities, City of Stone being a glaring example, destroyed any chance of being sympathetic and just made her a completely evil, mass murdering monster who'd blame her misfortunes on others instead of accepting the fact that she's also responsible for the misfortunes that was brought upon her.
    • When he gains the power of Anubis, Jackal mocks his former teammates, Wolf and Hyena, before turning them into infants. Was this For the Evulz and just Jackal testing what his power could do, or by not killing them like Coyote 3.0, was it a Pet the Dog moment where he removed them as an enemy but did so non-fatally?
    • Is Owen really only a persona to Puck or does he have his own individuality or sentience? It's notable that when Oberon sentenced Puck to be permanently in Owen's form unless for protection/teaching Puck is horrified at the idea, but Owen seems to be fine with it. Additionally it may just be a case of Becoming the Mask.
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  • Angst? What Angst?: By the end of "The Hound of Ulster", Rory doesn't seem at all broken up about his close friend Molly turning out to be a disguised Banshee trying to steer him away from his destiny all along. Nor does he seem too upset about having to kill her when she tries to kill him in a fit of rage. To be clear, this is someone who had told him they loved him (and presumably lied about that, making it all the more upsetting).
  • Animation Age Ghetto: Despite being darker than a typical Disney cartoon and trying to reach for a older audience than just children, the show still wound up a victim of this, especially due to the third season and the first volume of the season 2 DVD set underselling.
  • Arc Fatigue: The World Tour took a really long time to complete, though Greg Weisman insists to this day it would have been better received if the show didn't have to go on hiatus several times due to the episodes not being ready. He also admits he greatly underestimated the popularity of the Trio, and it was a mistake to remove them from the show for so long.
  • Awesome Music: Most of the music in the show qualifies for this, but the opening theme - with its heavy, ominous drums and Gothic fanfare - is a fan favorite.
    • Becomes even more awesome when episode commentaries with the cast and crew reveal that their music budget was so low that almost every piece of music in the series was just a rearrangement of the opening theme. On a limited budget they managed to take one theme and create enough variations of it to fill a whole soundtrack. Somebody give the composer an award!
    • The opening theme for "Chronicles" is also quite epic
  • Better on DVD: Perhaps the show was too ambitious for it's time, as a weekly animated series with a heavily serialized story made keeping up a chore, not helped by the fact that the reruns were shown out of order. Binge-watching it on DVD or streaming makes following the story easier, not to mention eliminates the frustration of the "To Be Continued" endings.
  • Broken Base: Some fans didn't like that Brooklyn's son name is "Nashville", named after a city mostly known for country music, which clash with the themes promoted in the series. Other fans are fine with it as it fits the American location theme perfectly. Those fans argue that Brooklyn and Katana probably had a good reason to choose that name. We just don't know why yet, as the series and comic book came to a halt.
    • The World Tour arc. One half of the fanbase enjoyed it for expanding the lore of the series and introduced new characters to the series, while the other half hated it for dragging on too long and leaving out half of the main characters barring a few episodes. It didn't help that the show went on hiatus during that period.
  • Complete Monster: Gargoyles, for the most part, has a well-deserved reputation for sympathetic and three-dimensional villains. There are, however, a few unrepentantly horrible ones:
    • Jackal is a sadistic and violent member of the Pack who gleefully participates in hunting the gargoyles for sport and abandons his humanity to become a cyborg killing machine, seeming only to take pleasure in violence and cruelty. While Jackal is often kept in check by his colleagues, season 2's "Grief" reveals what he is truly capable of. When the Egyptian god Anubis is captured by an Emir seeking to bring his dead son back to life, Jackal seizes power from the Jackal god and makes himself the god of death, torturing his enemies by aging them to the point they are almost too infirm to move and transforming his own teammates into children. Jackal proceeds to attempt to wipe out every living thing on the planet simply because he can, destroying an entire city before he is stopped.
    • Thailog is a clone of Goliath, created by Dr. Antoine "Anton" Sevarius on David Xanatos's orders. An Evil Genius whose only drive is his ambition to dominate, enrich himself, and control what he could, Thailog is introduced enacting a plan to steal $20 million from Xanatos, then trying to murder his three "fathers", by burning them alive. Later seducing Demona, Thailog attempted to trick her and Macbeth into killing one another so he could steal their fortunes and seize control of their assets for his own gain, or to simply lock Macbeth mac Findlaech away for all time. Going on to clone the Manhattan clan to create a slave clan of his own as a prelude to killing them, Thailog betrays and tries to kill Demona when she stops him from killing her daughter, revealing that he had cloned Demona as well to create a new submissive mate. Returning from the supposed dead, Thailog tries to force the clones back into servitude while impaling his own "father" Goliath to leave him to bleed out. Combining Goliath's brute strength with Xanatos's cunning and Sevarius's flair for the dramatic, Thailog stands out as one of the Manhattan clan's most malevolent foes, a creature that even Xanatos regards as a monster.
    • Proteus of the New Olympians, from "The New Olympians" and "Seeing Isn't Believing", is a shape-shifting Serial Killer who was imprisoned after murdering the previous captain of the guard. He consistently assumes the form of his victim to mock the man's son Taurus. When he tricks his way to freedom, Proteus delights in sowing the seeds of chaos all through the city, using people's emotions against them with his powers for a sick thrill and trying to destroy his city and commit genocide on his own people.
  • Designated Hero: The episode "Pendragon" arguably makes King Arthur and Macbeth of all people into one of these and Designated Villain, respectively. The episode concerns Arthur's quest to reclaim his lost sword, Excalibur, with Macbeth opposing him and wanting to claim the sword as his own.
    • For: Arthur essentially has no moral high ground on Macbeth. As Macbeth correctly points out, he is just as valid a candidate as Arthur as the destined wielder of Excalibur, since the prophecy surrounding it says it is to be claimed by a "timeless king". Arthur spends a large part of the episode acting insulted and irritated by the sheer notion that he might have to prove his worthiness again after centuries of sleeping rather than being immediately granted the sword back, coming across as rather entitled and spoiled. When it briefly seems Macbeth has been granted the sword, Arthur's first instinct is to attack him and insist that a mistake has been made, whereas Macbeth gracefully accepts defeat upon seeing Arthur being granted the real sword. This is compounded by the fact that Arthur doesn't actually solve most of the riddles leading to the sword himself, leaving the gargoyles to do most of the brainwork and not making himself come across as much more worthy of having it than Macbeth.
    • Against: Arthur, having been the One-True-King, has reason to think that he still qualifies and had no reason to think that his title had expired. Additionally, from his perspective he had only been separated from the sword for a short period, even if he intellectually knew it had been centuries. Indeed, both the Stone of Destiny and the Lady of the Lake imply that he needs to prove himself because he woke up too early. As he says, he does not feel "whole" without Excalibur; it is a huge part of his identity, and so the idea that he could lose it terrifies him. People tend to not be on their best behavior during existential crisis. Thus, he acts with rage when he thinks Macbeth has "stolen" it from him, but all Macbeth had to do is remind him of his better nature ("An honest man would acknowledge his true king and yield!") and he does indeed yield; it is similar to Goliath breaking Macbeth's brainwashing by reminding him of his own better nature. Immediately after the fight ends, he basically says "Good game, fellow king. Wanna travel together?" which shows that he is a good sport, does not hold a grudge, recognizes Macbeth as a peer, etc. Also, while the gargoyles provide much help, gathering this kind of help is part of the idea of being king. As Arthur himself said, "No king can lead without his knights." Such leading includes keeping a cool head and giving clear orders on the proper method of defeating undines, even when one of them is moments away from drowning him. He is also the one who figures out the last part of the riddle, without help from anyone.
    • All of the protagonists become this in "Ill Met by Moonlight". Oberon returns to Avalon and tells the Avalon clan to leave. As the rightful ruler of Avalon, he has every right to make this demand. When Ophelia points this out, Elisa says that Oberon forfeited his claim on Avalon by abandoning it for 1,000 years. This rationalization ignores three important facts: 1) Oberon is immortal and 1,000 years wouldn't seem very long to him; 2) Oberon posted guards to make sure no one set foot on Avalon while he was gone, guards that the Magus overpowered, so the Avalon clan weren't just squatters, they were invaders; and 3) the danger which originally forced the clan to seek refuge on Avalon was not only long over, it was long forgotten. The world might not have been gargoyle-friendly but there were a handful of clans still thriving in the modern world, so simply complying with Oberon's demand and leaving really was an option.
  • Designated Villain: The episode "Pendragon" arguably makes Macbeth and King Arthur of all people into one of these and Designated Hero, respectively. The episode concerns Arthur's quest to reclaim his lost sword, Excalibur, with Macbeth opposing him and wanting to claim the sword as his own. We don't know what Macbeth plans to do with the great power that he feels is coming, so it could be heroic or villainous. Based on their history together (just one example is him stealing the scrolls of Merlin in an attempt to siphon the magical power he thought was contained in them), the gargoyles assume it is villainous when they see Macbeth standing on a rooftop chanting over a bubbling cauldron (it's worth remembering that at this point in the continuity Hudson and the trio still don't know what happened on Avalon and in Paris, the last time they encountered Macbeth he was working with Demona to steal Coldstone for reasons still unknown to them). His henchpeople attempt to kill the gargoyles, and it is clear from their actions that Macbeth didn't give them any "don't use lethal force" orders. While he is much quicker to acknowledge Arthur as the One-True-King than Arthur was to him, his attachment to the sword was also much weaker. Like Arthur, he is a good sport about the whole thing in the end, and says that he will help Arthur in the future (as a fellow king, not a subordinate knight).
    • The Weird Sisters. Oberon told them to make sure no one entered Avalon while the third race was in exile, an order he had every right to give and they had every reason to obey. In their first chronological appearance, they failed in this task. Everything they did in the entire series was done to remove the invaders from their homeland. While working with the Archmage, who was a Card-Carrying Villain, doesn't make them look good, they had every reason to be grateful after he rescued them from an eternity of being owls.
  • Draco in Leather Pants:
    • Macbeth is a fairly minor example — he's an Anti-Villain who's heavy on the "anti"- but a lot of his fans see him as a Hero Antagonist, which Word of God says he's definitely not, at least when first introduced (later in the series, this may have changed).
    • What's done to Demona in fanfiction...
    • It's done a lot to Xanatos and Fox as well. While they do eventually become allies of the Gargoyles, they still have committed many evil acts, the majority of which they don’t seem too regretful of, that some fans ignore.
  • Fan-Disliked Explanation: Although the show is usually good at tying up loose ends, a few plot threads have been left hanging: The computer virus that Xanatos acquires in "Legion," for example, is never seen or heard of again. (Given how Technology Marches On, it is unlikely that it ever will be now.) What Titania whispered to Fox in "The Gathering" has also been left hanging; Word of God says that it wasn't very important anyway, and would now be a ridiculous anti-climax after so much speculation.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: Most fans of the show ignore Goliath Chronicles, and dismiss it as nonexistent. Hell, that was before Weisman himself not only made it clear he goes by that notion, but made it official as well.
  • Foe Yay:
    • Xanatos basically dresses up as Goliath every night.
    • Word of God is that the Banshee does have some feelings for Rory/Cu Chullain, and there was a possibility this would have been explored further had the series continued.
    • Word of God says Demona was "a little bit in love" with Macbeth when they had their alliance in the tenth century, and that when she posed as human and hooked up with him they absolutely had sex. She also hates him more than she hates most humans. There's also "High Noon", where they are magicked to work together and snipe and snarl at one another the whole time, but also cooperate really well and act like they trust each other.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
    • This exchange between Elisa and Xanatos in the third episode seems a lot less funny when we see Xanatos ruling Manhattan as his own private nation in "Future Tense".
    Xanatos: The truth is that my men repelled an invasion by a rival corporation trying to steal some of our new technology.
    Elisa: "Repelled an invasion"? You're a private citizen, Xanatos, not a country!
    • In a perhaps less "funny" and more ironic sense. Early on Xanatos warned Goliath that New Yorkers would soon start hunting Gargoyles, and that he would be the clan's only salvation. Skip ahead to the episode "Hunter's Moon"; a mob of angry New Yorkers are about to start a riot to kill the "monsters," and Xanatos saves them by offering them a ride in his helicopter. Later still, in "Angels in the Night" you see that the Gargoyles are still hunted and persecuted by New Yorkers, and Xanatos helping the clan out of a trap set up by the Quarrymen.
  • Genius Bonus:
    • It is not essential to understanding the show, but familiarity with the myths, legends and Real Life history of some of the characters adds a whole new depth to some of the stories (on the other hand, there are some points where their inaccuracies can cause headaches amongst that same crowd).
    • The 3 gargoyles who make up Coldstone are nicknamed Othello, Desdemona (Othello's mate), and Iago (Othello's enemy, who desires Desdemona). Othello was convinced Goliath tried to take Desdemona away from him. This is pretty much Othello in a robotic, Frankenstein's Monster-like nutshell.
    • Macbeth is based on the historical Macbeth, not the Shakespearean one. This is off-handedly referenced in the comic, when he and Arthur commiserate on historical accuracy.
    • One of the new characters introduced in the comic book continuation is Quincy Hemings, an African-American man who works as a butler at the White House, and turns out to be a high-ranking member of the Illuminati. If you know your American history, you might note that he has the same last name as Sally Hemings, the slave with whom Thomas Jefferson fathered an illegitimate child. Though never explicitly spelled out, the apparent implication is that Quincy is a descendant of Thomas Jefferson, and he inherited his Illuminati membership through his ancestor's ties to the Founding Fathers (whose ranks included several prominent Freemasons).
  • Growing the Beard: Many fans point to "City of Stone" as the point when Gargoyles made the jump from an above-average Action-Adventure cartoon to a true epic with multi-layered characters and complex story arcs. It introduced surprisingly detailed backstories for Macbeth and Demona (leading to major Character Development for both), but it also featured the first official alliance between David Xanatos and the gargoyles—firmly cementing Xanatos as the unpredictable Chessmaster that we know and love.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • In the episode "Mark Of The Panther" Elisa's mother, Diana Maza, tells the story of the Panther Queen which gets a lot worse when you remember that her son Derek Maza was transformed into a panther mutate by Xanatos.
    • In "Future Tense", our heroes are in a Bad Future and the WTC is missing in one scene. The episode aired in 1996 and Puck says it's a prophecy. Disturbing...
    • In fact, since it's based mainly in Manhattan, the World Trade Center towers in general feature prominently in the background of a lot of scenes from this series, and sometimes in the foreground: Puck played some of his best pranks in "The Mirror" from atop those towers, for instance. This can get a bit awkward these days when showing the series to anyone too young to remember 9/11.
    • Maggie Reed being so unhappy with her life as a mutate that she's willing to take a potentially fatal cure in "The Cage" becomes even more tragic in retrospect in light of the Bad Guys spin-off of the Slave Labor Graphics comic continuation, where the fourth issue had a mutate named Tasha commit suicide after realizing that there's no cure for her condition.
  • He Really Can Act: Invoked with the creation of Thailog, as Weisman felt guilty that Keith David wasn't getting to display much of his acting range as Goliath.
  • Heartwarming in Hindsight: While the show was rather controversially Screwed by the Network in its day, it's pretty cool to know that its lead actor would eventually be offered a leading role in a major Disney feature film over a decade after it ended. And not just any leading role—but a leading role that permanently put him in the exclusive "Disney Villains" club. That's a rare distinction, but Keith David more than earned it with his performance in this show.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • In the episode "Mark Of The Panther" Anansi declares his desire to turn the Main Characters into Panthers, Elisa spites him retorting "Dream on Spider-Man!". Not just does Disney own Marvel Comics now, but also Weisman was the head writer of The Spectacular Spider-Man.
    • Demona, a gargoyle, flitting about Notre Dame... In a dark and serious feature by Disney, no less.
    • Brooklyn in Future Tense. Holy crap, what an asshole!
    • Goliath at one point uses the term "Forever alone." Several years later...
    • In "Future Tense", the alternate universe Brooklyn mentions that Thailog died in the "Clone Wars". Greg Weisman later worked on Star Wars Rebels with Star Wars: The Clone Wars' supervising director Dave Filoni.
    • This is not the last time David Warner voiced an evil wizard.
    • Fans disliked Preston Vogel for seeming like a rip-off of the more fleshed-out Owen. Owen is an in-universe ripoff of Vogel, as he is styled after him by Puck, his true identity.
    • In "A Bronx Tail", a child is shown reading a "Mega Mutants" Comic book near the start of the episode. It seems humorously prophetic now that Disney owns Marvel Comics.
    • In "Walkabout," Anastasia Reynard, voiced by Kate Mulgrew, remarks that they don't know enough about hive mind artificial intelligence. The episode originally premiered before the Borg made their debut on Star Trek: Voyager, where much more about the Borg was revealed then had been known previous.
      • While on the subject of Anastasia Reynard, the later reveal of her as Lady Titania, wife of Oberon, is rather amusing, considering Kate Mulgrew's later role as Flemeth, the witch of the wilds.
    • In Grief, Angela's line about "stopping the avatar".
      • On the subject regarding an unrelated work called Avatar, one of the gargoyles that Elisa Maza, Goliath, and Angela meet in Guatemala in the episode "The Green" looks uncannily alike a Na'vi with wings. To add to that, the episode also happened to have a Green Aesop as well.
    • The Hunter that Demona fights during the Renaissance uses a flying machine very similar to the type Leonardo Da Vinci designed. That wouldn't seem coincidental back then, but nowadays...
    • On youtube there is a compilation of cool lines said by Xanatos, concluding with a picture saying "Eat your heart out, Lex". Guess who Luthor is quoting at one point in Young Justice.
    • Lexington befriending Wolf ends up in betrayal by the latter is amusing when Chris Bradfod does the same to Mikey in TMNT 2012, as both villains are voiced by Clancy Brown.
    • Coldstone becomes a bit less intimidating after a chain of ice cream parlors sharing his name rose to prominence.
    • Similarly, it can be harder to take the name "Coldsteel" seriously nowadays thanks to the infamous "Coldsteel the Hedgeheg" meme.
  • Idiot Plot: "Deadly Force" requires Elisa, an experienced police officer, to be careless enough to leave her gun lying around out in the open in her apartment. Elisa herself admits after the fact that it was stupid of her not to properly secure her weapon.
  • Inferred Holocaust:
    • Nothing is ever mentioned afterwards of the entire city which Jackal, mad with Anubis' powers, reduced to mere rubble, though the Emir/Anubis fusion mentions returning the stolen life energies we never actually see it happen.
    • Demona murdered several people while they're turned to stone, plus that woman whose arms she shot off. Just how many people did she kill?
  • Informed Wrongness: Bodhe was intended to be a Dirty Coward and the devil on Macbeth's shoulder telling him to make the wrong decision. Creator Greg Weisman believed he slandered Bodhe worse than Shakespeare slandered Macbeth. While Bodhe's last suggestion that Macbeth break his alliance with Demona to appease the British was wrong, cowardly, and had terrible consequences, everything else he said was right.
    • In the SLG comics Bodhe spends the entire battle running and hiding from Gillecomgain. This was supposed to be seen as the origin of Bodhe's cowardice, but Gillecomgain was twice his size and a raging psycho. Running and hiding was the smart move.
    • When Duncan ordered Gruoch to marry Gillecomgain, Macbeth wanted to run away with her. Bodhe told Macbeth that defying Duncan would be treason and there would be no place they would be safe and if Macbeth truly loved her he would let her go. In fact, Duncan had been looking for an excuse to kill Macbeth, he probably would have killed Macbeth and Gruoch just out of spite.
    • When Duncan's army was ready to attack Moray, Bodhe told Macbeth that Duncan would easily overpower Macbeth's loyal soldiers and slaughter his family and that Macbeth's only chance to save his wife and son was to surrender. Indeed, prior to Macbeth making an alliance with Demona, Duncan would have easily plowed through Macbeth's loyal soldiers and probably would have killed his wife and son.
    • After Duncan's death, Bodhe advises Macbeth to kill Canmore, believing that Canmore would be trouble. This time he was proven right.
  • Magnificent Bastard:
    • David Xanatos, the Trope Namer for Xanatos Gambit and Xanatos Speed Chess, is a charming, suave man who always thinks ten steps ahead. Having revived the Gargoyles in modern day, Xanatos befriends them while manipulating them into stealing technology for him while pretending to be an innocent party. After being defeated and sent to prison, Xanatos sets up further plans to make himself look like a model citizen while securing an early parole for his lover Fox, while constantly tricking the Gargoyles into handling problems for him. Even his own wedding shows Xanatos's endless capacity for maintaining an advantage: warping himself and all the wedding guests into the past, Xanatos ends the adventure by having a rare coin set aside to be sent to himself a thousand years in the future when it will be worth a fortune, allowing him to kick start his own career. Rarely at a loss for a contingency and never losing his smile, Xanatos is rarely ever one-upped, and often proves his boast that nothing is beyond his capacity to control.
    • Goliath's evil clone, Thailog starts by luring both Goliath and Xanatos to him to claim a massive amount of money and eliminate his rivals. With his plan going off nearly perfectly, Thailog fakes his death and begins to build up a power base in the world. Seducing Demona, Thailog arranges for her to win the heart of Macbeth in her human guise, while planning to have them kill one another so he can take over both their operations. Thailog later arranges for the near elimination of the Manhattan Clan after he's cloned them, while also planning ahead for Demona's betrayal as well. Combining Xanatos's charm and brilliant mind with Goliath's power, Thailog shows why he is one of the single most dangerous villains in all of Gargoyles.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • Xanatos went over it for Elisa in "Metamorphosis". It's unlikely she'll ever forgive him completely.
    • Lexington was never really able to get over being duped by the Pack, though he eventually forgives Fox, if only for the sake of baby Alexander.
    • Demona goes over it truly in "City of Stone", where she ends up breaking, and thus murdering, an untold number of humans turned to stone.
    • The Pack all get one, when they irreversibly change their bodies into stronger but more monstrous forms, with the exception of Anti-Villain Dingo, who goes for a suit of powered armor that of course does nothing to change his actual body.
    • Hakon crossed it when he enacted the Wyvern Massacre while the gargoyles were still stone- the equivalent of killing an unarmed person in their sleep. And later after death, when his ghost pulled Mind Rape on Goliath via transforming into the gargoyle's fallen brethren in order to torment him.
    • By extension, the Captain of the Guard crossed it by betraying his castle to Hakon and reluctantly allowing Hakon to commit the massacre. Unlike most of the examples above, he decided to make amends by stopping Hakon from reviving himself via Goliath's life energy.
    • Jon Canmore crosses it when he tries to kill Vinnie for disobeying him.
  • Misaimed Fandom: The "Avalon" arc and the ArchMage's alliance with the Weird Sisters was intended to provoke an audience response of "Oh wow, the ArchMage is so all-powerful that even the Weird Sisters are doing his bidding!! How will our heroes ever defeat him?!". But instead, many fans had the opposite reaction. Rather than the arc building up the ArchMage in their mind, it tore down the Sisters: "Oh, the Weird Sisters aren't so powerful afterall, they're even doing the bidding of that silly ArchMage guy." Word of God is that he may have "failed" the voice actor who performed the ArchMage when it came to this story: [1]
  • Narm: Occasionally the series' trademark melodrama goes a bit too far.
    • In "A Lighthouse In the Sea of Time", Robbins takes care to make sure that his delivery of the "Reading Is Cool" Aesop doesn't become preachy or narmy. Broadway, on the other hand, is a bit too hammy when he pontificates on the magic of the written word.
    • Demona's multitude of sultry poses while revealing her ability to turn human to Elisa in "High Noon." Weisman admits he has no idea what anyone was thinking with this one.
    • There's a few episodes that try to build suspense over who a character in the shadows is, but the design and/or the voice makes it immediately obvious.
    • The gargoyles learn about the curse of Demona and Macbeth being the only ones who can kill each other fairly early in Season 2, yet they repeatedly keep assuming Demona has been killed some other way. note 
  • Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped:
    • "Deadly Force." They wanted to push An Aesop about gun safety in there, and they pulled it off perfectly.
    • "City of Stone" was anything but subtle in conveying the Aesop that killing never solves anything, but the scene in which the Weird Sisters and Goliath stop Macbeth from killing Demona wouldn't have been nearly as powerful otherwise.
  • Spiritual Adaptation: "The Hound of Ulster" is essentially an adaptation of the debut of The Mighty Thor in Journey into Mystery #83. A modern person discovers an old stick/cane underground which turns out to be the disguised weapon of a mythological god/hero, which transforms him into said god/hero. Greg regrets this similarity.
  • Strangled by the Red String: One episode involves Brooklyn, Broadway and Lexington competeing for Angela's affections, and the episode ends without her choosing anyone. A later episode has her hooking up with Broadway, but there's not very much development of their relationship before that happens.
  • Tastes Like Diabetes: From the perspective of Anton Sevarius, Angela making fast friends with Nessie (the Nessie of Loch Ness, to be precise) falls under this trope.
    Sevarius: If it gets any more saccharine in there, I'm going to put a finger down my throat.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Weisman admits that he really should have done more with the Weird Sisters, after receiving many complaints that after their intriguing introduction in "City of Stone," they're ultimately revealed to just be cardboard evil henchmen for the Archmage.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: One of the big reasons why The Goliath Chronicles is Fanon Discontinuity is a waste of potential. The closure for the characters in the show could've been handled a lot better. A case can be made with Demona in "Generations", where she could've had a proper Heel–Face Turn. But instead, after being rejected by her daughter, Angela, for manipulating her to get Goliath killed in a plot to be welcomed back into the clan, she cries after watching Angela leave with the clan, and is never seen or heard from again. The fact that TGC was loaded with Filler didn't help matters either.
  • Ugly Cute: A majority of the gargoyles, quite a few of whom actually aren't ugly at all. Broadway, for instance, is hairless and chubby, but also huggable.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic: There are a few characters in the show who have good intentions and even seemingly sympathetic backstories but don't fully come off as sympathetic characters themselves due to their own character flaws and/or actions in the course of the series.
    • Derek/Talon had every right to be angry/saddened at being turned into a Mutate with seemingly no chance at curing himself. However, the fact that he repeatedly didn't listen to Elisa about how bad of an influence Xanatos was and continuously blamed and attacked Goliath for his own condition makes him come off as less of a sympathetic victim and more of an unlikable Jerkass.
    • Halcyon Renard may have been a man dedicated more or less to "integrity" and he also had a disease which confined him to a wheelchair, in addition to losing his wife because of his devotion to said integrity. Unfortunately, all his morals went down the drain the moment he got a stronger and more powerful body in the Golem, causing wanton destruction and property damage all across Prague, making himself guilty of all the things he attacked Goliath over back when he lectured Goliath about causing damage to his own property. Although at that point, he did admit he couldn't keep up with up the standards he set due to his disabled body and all the events he went through because of them. He did express regret over his actions.
    • Oberon himself had every legal right to reclaim Avalon as his own, and he was never really an outright evil being. He also probably had a legitimate point about how he needed to take Alexander under his care due to his magical powers. However, because he behaved like such an insufferable and entitled Jerk Ass God to begin with, very few people outright sympathize with him and/or want him to succeed no matter how right he may have been over Avalon's ownership or Alex needing proper Third Race guidance to be able to control his powers. The creator did explain his reasoning to take Alex with him (because in his eyes, leaving Alex disconnected from his magical heritage would be equal to crippling him), but that just reeks of Fantastic Racism by itself.
    • Jon Canmore's whole motivation for suddenly becoming hateful and vengeful toward gargoyles is solely because he believed they killed his brother, Jason. But when Jason turns up alive and tries to defuse the situation, Jon refuses to listen to him. He tries to shoot Goliath, and Jason ends up Taking the Bullet. Jon says "What have I - what have they done?" as a Call-Back to Demona's Start of Darkness, but it doesn't really work here since the gargoyles literally didn't do anything (unlike the humans who actually did smash Demona's clan in their stone forms) - Jon fired the weapon and Jason chose to jump in the line of fire. Jason doesn't even die from this either! All in all, Jon's motivation for becoming the leader of an anti-Gargoyle Ku Klux Klan Expy makes little sense and does not endear him to the audience at all. It is possible that Greg did this as a human parallel to Demona as both him and her started out as very good nature and kind suffering from the poison of vengeance corrupted them.
  • What an Idiot!: Oh, so many that it could have its own page. Let's start at the beginning.
    • Yes, people of Castle Wyvern, treat the gargoyles — half of your fighting force — like crap and act like Ungrateful Bastards after they save you from the Vikings. Surely this won't cause problems later on when you need them the most.note 
    • Princess Katherine's father, Prince Malcolm, wasn't much smarter. Although he seemed to get along fairly well with the gargoyles, he had a bad habit of telling a young Katherine scary bedtime stories about them. Because telling your heir and future leader of the realm that your people's greatest allies are child-eating monsters can't possibly backfire. In fact, when Hudson calls him on it, he just laughs it off, saying Hudson is too sensitive.
    • Brooklyn giving Demona the powerful grimoire despite the fact she tried to kill him the last time they met. Although the fact that she had just saved him from a pack of angry bikers might have made him a bit more willing to hear her out on the evils of humanity.
    • Elisa being dumb enough to leave her gun lying around loaded for anyone to find in "Deadly Force". While she may have been a single woman who was accustomed to living alone and not having guests randomly show up out of nowhere, you would think that an experienced police officer like her would already know better than to just leave her gun lying around like that. She forgot that Broadway has a tenth-century education and only knows about guns from movies.
    • Derek's desire for revenge against Goliath after his mutation included being highly aggressive towards his own sister, believing she was siding with Goliath and making it clear he wanted to kill Goliath and she couldn't prevent it forever. Never, not once, does he even consider the possibility that his own sister that he loves and who loves him and who grew up together with him, may actually be right about Xanatos being the one who caused Derek's mutation. Add to this the fact that she had been trying to warn him about Xanatos long before this and even gave him proof of Xanatos' misdeeds in a recorded tape, that he clearly never bothered to listen to, instead choosing to trust Xanatos more than his own sister, and not only does he fit this trope, but his ending up mutated was mostly his own fault.
  • What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?: An all-adult cast, serious explorations on issues like prejudice and genocide from the first episode, and a Very Special Episode about the consequences of gun usage (which isn't painted in black-and-white like other Aesops). Not something you'd really see in most Disney animation, much less Disney television in the time that it aired; the closest thing to even aesthetically match it during its runtime at the Disney Afternoon block would have been Darkwing Duck.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not Political?: The episode "Deadly Force" was accused by the NRA and other Pro-Gun ownership groups of being intended to promote gun control. Weisman responded to these claims by stating that if he was intending to influence political thinking then he picked a very poor time to do so, that being on November 18, ten days after the 1994 midterm elections, when elections for Congress, State and most local offices would have concluded by then. He also clarified that the message of that episode is that guns were weapons that could harm people, thus they must be handled responsibly and that it contained no intended advocating for one side or the other.
  • Win Back the Crowd: Prior to this show, fans of the Disney Afternoon were beginning to complain that the block was moving too far away from the more "timeless" adventure and fantasy shows it had started with and relying too heavily on wacky, insta-dated contemporary comedies. Their complaints were more than assuaged when this show, the more thematically mature and downright awesome of all of them, came along.
  • The Woobie:
    • Many characters take turns with this, but Goliath, Elisa, and Macbeth stand out the most. Just watch Macbeth's back story in "City Of Stone" and try not to feel pity towards him at the end.
    • Poor Brooklyn just can't catch a break. Even the one good thing that does happen to him (being named Goliath's second) just makes his life that much worse.


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