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* MagnificentBitch: [[spoiler: Demona took advantage of a major gang war and through her ally, Antoinette Dracon, seized control of the mobs.]]
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* MagnificentBitch: [[spoiler: Demona took advantage of a major gang war and through her ally, Antoinette Dracon, seized control of the mobs.]]
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* StrangledByTheRedString: One episode involves Brooklyn, Broadway and Lexington competeing for Angela's affections, and the episode ends without her choosing anyone. A later episode has her hooking up with Broadway, but there's not very much development of their relationship before that happens.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: One episode involves Brooklyn, Broadway and Lexington competeing competing for Angela's affections, and the episode ends without her choosing anyone. A later episode has her hooking up with Broadway, but there's not very much development of their relationship before that happens.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Granted, Creator/BillFagerbakke wasn't a ''complete'' unknown when this show was on thanks to ''Series/{{Coach}}'', which was still running at the time. Nonetheless, fans of ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' will probably get a kick out of hearing Patrick's voice coming out of the slightly more intelligent Broadway.

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Granted, Creator/BillFagerbakke wasn't a ''complete'' unknown when this show was on thanks to ''Series/{{Coach}}'', which was still running at the time. Nonetheless, fans of ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' will probably get a kick out of hearing Patrick's voice coming out of the slightly more intelligent Broadway.Broadway.
** Fans of ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' may get a kick out of going back and seeing just what Creator/RockyCarroll can do with his voice, as both Glasses and Derek Maza/Talon.
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* ImprovedSecondAttempt: The ''Goliath Chronicles'' episode "And Justice For All" was infamously gutted by Disney from Greg Weisman's original script, turning a legal exploration of gargoyle citizenship into a generic but nonsensical CourtroomEpisode. The Dynamite comics finally allowed Weisman to explore his original concept, with Goliath being tried on gargoyle sentience and the repercussions that would mean for the clan going forward.
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* SeasonalRot: Season 3 is universally less-liked than seasons 1 and 2, to the point where many fans don't consider it canon. The series fell into rot after Michael and Brynne Chandler Reaves -- who had written and/or story edited virtually all of show's best episodes -- left at season 2's conclusion. Producer/Director Frank Paur was also a key loss, as was director Dennis J. Woodyard. As well, producer Creator/GregWeisman only stuck around for one episode, "The Journey", before being let go. The result? The formerly-nuanced Xanatos and Fox become full good guys and nearly every villain is a CardCarryingVillain with little to no depth. Not helping matters is that the season's BigBad is suspiciously similar to Demona, but while her reasons for descending into villainy were understandable, fleshed out and sympathetic, this guy's reason for turning evil is entirely selfish on his end, runs on InsaneTrollLogic, and doesn't get nearly as much detail as Demona's StartOfDarkness did. The show's visual look is also noticeably compromised, due to a change in directors and animation studios. The 2006 comic continuation by Weisman [[CanonDiscontinuity ignores the third season]], besides loosely re-telling its first episode (the only one Weisman was involved in) in its first two issues.

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This is not YMMV, but just misinformation. The previous editor does not seem to know what a showrunner is, what one actually does, or how the show was developed. The late Michael Reaves (who was not hired until nearly a year after the show's change to drama) constantly praised Greg Weisman as the show's creator, said at cons (which he attended multiple times after the show ended, even with Parkinson's disease) that nobody is as passionate about the show as Greg Weisman. The other writers and voice actors also acknowledge Weisman as creator, you can even hear Brynne Chandler appear with Greg on the Voices from the Eyrie podcast. Weisman discusses his lack of writing credits on their Awakening Part Five episode and is often humble, honest, and quick to pass out credit right and left to others.


* MyRealDaddy: Ever want to get a bunch of ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' fans riled up? Just bring up the idea that Creator/GregWeisman isn't really the show's creator -- Michael Reaves is. (The show in fact has no official "created by" credit.) Weisman is undoubtedly the show's post-series biggest booster, and pitched an early goofy comic version of ''Gargoyles'' that's unrecognizable compared to the finished show; Reaves actually wrote the series' first five episodes that set everything up, and most of the series' subsequent high points. (Wiseman himself did not receive a writing credit on any episode until the dire spin-off/continuation ''Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles''.) Virtually everything that people remember and love about ''Gargoyles'' was Reaves' work, but Reaves suffered from Parkinson's disease and slowly lost his voice -- and was eventually, a few years after the show ended, unable to write -- so he generally did not appear at conventions, or give interviews, or promote his work on the show. Weisman, meanwhile, who genuinely did love ''Gargoyles'' and was involved on the production end from the get-go, hyped himself as the show's creator at every opportunity. The reality is much more complex, but under Writers Guild practices, Reaves would be credited as the creator of ''Gargoyles'', and Weisman (with no writing credits whatsoever on the original 65-episode run) would have no claim to a creator credit. Non-prime-time animation, however, is not covered by the Guild.



* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Given the fandom's almost universally disappointed reaction to [[FanonDiscontinuity season 3]], some fans see Greg as the true storyteller of the series. And then again, given that Greg actually was involved in season 3 (though he has disowned it), and that Michael Reaves (who wrote many of the most highly-regarded episodes of seasons one and two) had left the show by that point, some fans see this as proof that ''Michael'' was the true storyteller of the series.

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Given the fandom's almost universally disappointed reaction to [[FanonDiscontinuity season 3]], some fans see Greg as the true storyteller of the series. And then again, given that Greg actually was involved in season 3 (though he has disowned it), and that Michael Reaves (who wrote many of the most highly-regarded episodes of seasons one and two) had left the show by that point, some fans see this as proof that ''Michael'' was the true storyteller of the series.

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* MyRealDaddy: Ever want to get a bunch of ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' fans riled up? Just bring up the idea that Creator/GregWeisman isn't really the show's creator -- Michael Reaves is. (The show in fact has no official "created by" credit.) Weisman is undoubtedly the show's post-series biggest booster, and pitched an early goofy comic version of ''Gargoyles'' that's unrecognizable compared to the finished show; Reaves actually wrote the series' first five episodes that set everything up, and most of the series' subsequent high points. (Wiseman himself did not receive a writing credit on any episode until the dire spin-off/continuation ''Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles''.) Virtually everything that people remember and love about ''Gargoyles'' was Reaves' work, but Reaves suffered from Parkinson's disease and slowly lost his voice -- and was eventually, a few years after the show ended, unable to write -- so he generally did not appear at conventions, or give interviews, or promote his work on the show. Weisman, meanwhile, who genuinely did love ''Gargoyles'' and was involved on the production end from the get-go, hyped himself as the show's creator at every opportunity. The reality is much more complex, but under Writers Guild practices, Reaves would be credited as the creator of ''Gargoyles'', and Weisman (with no writing credits whatsoever on the original 65-episode run) would have no claim to a creator credit. Non-prime-time animation, however, is not covered by the Guild.



* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Given the fandom's reaction to [[FanonDiscontinuity season 3]], some fans see Greg as the true storyteller of the series.

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Given the fandom's almost universally disappointed reaction to [[FanonDiscontinuity season 3]], some fans see Greg as the true storyteller of the series.series. And then again, given that Greg actually was involved in season 3 (though he has disowned it), and that Michael Reaves (who wrote many of the most highly-regarded episodes of seasons one and two) had left the show by that point, some fans see this as proof that ''Michael'' was the true storyteller of the series.
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* EvilIsSexy:
** When [[ActionGirl Elisa]] goes undercover as a crooked cop demanding protection money, she wears a black jacket, tight black pants, and a blue top that shows her midriff, displays cleavage, and nicely accentuates her breasts. No wonder she quickly charms mob boss Tony Dracon into letting her join his crew.
** In ''[[CanonDiscontinuity Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles]]'', evil {{shapeshift|ing}}er Proteus disguises himself as Elisa and [[{{Squick}} all but seduces Goliath into trusting him]].
** Demona. To the point where it was clearly a conscious choice by the creators to make her look that way.
** There's also [[AxCrazy Hyena]], who's pretty sexy in her own right. After [[spoiler: she becomes a cyborg]], her outfit [[BareMidriffsAreFeminine shows a lot more skin]] than her brother's.
** She's more morally ambiguous than Demona or Hyena, but Fox still counts on both the evil and the sexy - even the tattoo on her eye doesn't hurt. Especially if you like [[EvilRedhead redheads]].
** [[MagnificentBastard David Xanatos]] is ruggedly-handsome, intelligent, and sharply-dressed enough to make you want to forgive his crimes.
** Thailog. He's avoided the DracoInLeatherPants label, but you still LoveToHate him and he's got an [[Creator/KeithDavid amazing voice]] on the side.
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** Jon Canmore crosses it when he tries to kill Vinnie for disobeying him. He then crosses it again on the Halloween special when he calls on all his Quarrymen and aspiring new members to join him in attacking a Halloween street fair in which the Manhattan Clan are guests of honor, and he openly states for them to attack not only the gargoyles, but also any innocent civilians wearing gargoyle costumes.

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** If Jon Canmore crosses didn't cross it when he tries to kill Vinnie for disobeying him. He then crosses it again him, he definitely did on the Halloween special when special. There, he calls on all his Quarrymen and aspiring new members to join him in attacking a Halloween street fair in which the Manhattan Clan are guests of honor, and he openly states for them to attack not only the gargoyles, but also any innocent civilians wearing gargoyle costumes.
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*** Many of his deeds are understandable FromACertainPointOfView, but what he arranged for his [[CatFolk trusting employee, Derek Maza]], is definitely villainous.

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*** Many of his deeds are understandable FromACertainPointOfView, from a certain point of view, but what he arranged for his [[CatFolk trusting employee, Derek Maza]], is definitely villainous.
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** Jon Canmore crosses it when he tries to kill Vinnie for disobeying him.

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** Jon Canmore crosses it when he tries to kill Vinnie for disobeying him. He then crosses it again on the Halloween special when he calls on all his Quarrymen and aspiring new members to join him in attacking a Halloween street fair in which the Manhattan Clan are guests of honor, and he openly states for them to attack not only the gargoyles, but also any innocent civilians wearing gargoyle costumes.
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** In the Halloween Special, the Quarrymen have new helmets to replace [[IconicItem their hoods]]. They were built with protection in mind and have a headlight for better practicality. Too bad it makes them look like [[Franchise/GIJoe Viper Troopers]] cosplayers.

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** In the Halloween Special, the Quarrymen have new helmets to replace [[IconicItem their hoods]].hoods. They were built with protection in mind and have a headlight for better practicality. Too bad it makes them Unfortunately, they look generic and are not as intimidating as their [[IconicItem old hoods]] and they look like [[Franchise/GIJoe Viper Troopers]] cosplayers.
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** In the Halloween Special, the Quarrymen have new helmets to replace their hoods. They were built with protection in mind and have a headlight for better practicality. Too bad it makes them look like [[Franchise/GIJoe Viper Troopers]] cosplayers, but hey, it's all in the spirit of Halloween.

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** In the Halloween Special, the Quarrymen have new helmets to replace [[IconicItem their hoods.hoods]]. They were built with protection in mind and have a headlight for better practicality. Too bad it makes them look like [[Franchise/GIJoe Viper Troopers]] cosplayers, but hey, it's all in the spirit of Halloween.cosplayers.
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** In the Halloween Special, the Quarrymen have new helmets to replace their hoods. They were built with protection in mind and have a headlight for better practicality. Too bad it makes them look like [[Franchise/GIJoe Viper Troopers]] cosplayers, but hey, it's all in the spirit of Halloween.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Elisa dressing as Belle for Halloween, and reenacting the titular dance sequence of ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'' with Goliath, predates Disney hiring such African-American performers as Music/ToniBraxton and Music/{{HER|Musician}} to portray Belle in staged productions.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Elisa dressing as Belle for Halloween, and reenacting the titular dance sequence of ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'' with Goliath, predates Disney hiring such African-American performers as Music/ToniBraxton and Music/{{HER|Musician}} [[Music/HERMusician H.E.R.]] to portray Belle in staged productions.
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** In the episode "Mark Of The Panther" [[GiantSpider Anansi]] declares his desire to turn the MainCharacters into were-leopards, Elisa spites him retorting "[[TakeThat Dream on]], Franchise/SpiderMan!". Not only does Disney own Marvel Comics now, but also Weisman was the head writer of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan''.

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** In the episode "Mark Of The Panther" [[GiantSpider Anansi]] declares his desire to turn the MainCharacters into were-leopards, Elisa spites him retorting "[[TakeThat Dream on]], Franchise/SpiderMan!".ComicBook/SpiderMan!". Not only does Disney own Marvel Comics now, but also Weisman was the head writer of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan''.



** In "A Bronx Tail", a child is shown reading a "[[CaptainErsatz Mega]] [[Franchise/XMen Mutants]]" Comic book near the start of the episode. It seems humorously prophetic now that Disney owns Marvel Comics.

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** In "A Bronx Tail", a child is shown reading a "[[CaptainErsatz Mega]] [[Franchise/XMen [[ComicBook/XMen Mutants]]" Comic book near the start of the episode. It seems humorously prophetic now that Disney owns Marvel Comics.
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**Goliath’s [[EvilKnockoff evil clone]], Thailog who posseses Goliaths strength and Xanatos genius. He actually managed to out Xanatos Xanatos himself, and any time he appears with another villain almost always pulls and EvilerThanThou on them.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Elisa dressing as Belle for Halloween, and reenacting the titular dance sequence of ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'' with Goliath, predates Disney hiring such African-American performers as Music/ToniBraxton and Music/{{HER}} to portray Belle in staged productions.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Elisa dressing as Belle for Halloween, and reenacting the titular dance sequence of ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'' with Goliath, predates Disney hiring such African-American performers as Music/ToniBraxton and Music/{{HER}} Music/{{HER|Musician}} to portray Belle in staged productions.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** There are a few characters in the show who have good intentions and even seemingly sympathetic backstories but don't fully come off as sympathetic characters themselves due to their own character flaws and/or actions in the course of the series.

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UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: There are a few characters in the show who have good intentions and even seemingly sympathetic backstories but don't fully come off as sympathetic characters themselves due to their own character flaws and/or actions in the course of the series.
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The previous editor has no idea what a showrunner is, what one actually does, and how the show was developed. The late Michael Reaves constantly praised Greg Weisman as the show's creator, said at cons that nobody is as passionate about his baby as Greg Weisman. The other writers and voice actors acknowledge Weisman as creator, you can even hear Brynne Chandler appear with Greg on the Voices from the Eyrie podcast. Weisman discusses his lack of writing credits on their Awakening Part Five episode and is often humble, honest... and passes out credit right and left to others. If you're looking for a credit hogging egoist, there isn't one here. Likewise, Weisman did NOT have a producer credit on the third season.


* FanonDiscontinuity: Most fans of the show ignore Goliath Chronicles, and dismiss it as nonexistent. (There are lots of reasons for this -- most of the writing staff had left the show; the animation studio changed; and show's the once nuanced metaphors became subtle as a flying mallet.) Greg Weisman, who had stayed on as producer for ''The Golaith Chronicles'', later made it clear he goes by that notion too, disavowing all of season 3 except for the one third season episode he wrote. If you consider the comics an official continuation, you'll find [[CanonDiscontinuity they completely ignore season 3 as well]].

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Most fans of the show ignore Goliath Chronicles, and dismiss it as nonexistent. (There are lots of reasons for this -- most of the writing staff had left the show; the animation studio changed; and show's the once nuanced metaphors became subtle as a flying mallet.) Greg Weisman, who had stayed on as producer for ''The Golaith Chronicles'', later Hell, that was ''before'' [[WordOfGod Weisman himself]] not only made it clear he goes by that notion too, disavowing all of season 3 except for the one third season episode he wrote. If you consider the comics an official continuation, you'll find notion, but [[CanonDiscontinuity they completely ignore season 3 made it official as well]].



** In "Future Tense", our heroes are in a BadFuture and the WTC is missing in one scene. The episode aired in 1996 and Puck says it's a prophecy. Disturbing...

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** In "Future Tense", our heroes are in a BadFuture and the WTC is missing alternate universe Brooklyn mentions that Thailog died in one scene. The episode aired in 1996 and Puck says it's a prophecy. Disturbing...the "Clone Wars". Greg Weisman later worked on ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' with ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars''' supervising director Dave Filoni.



* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Invoked with the creation of Thailog, as the writing staff felt guilty that Keith David wasn't getting to display much of his acting range as Goliath.

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Invoked with the creation of Thailog, as the writing staff Weisman felt guilty that Keith David wasn't getting to display much of his acting range as Goliath.



** Bodhe was intended to be a DirtyCoward and the devil on Macbeth's shoulder telling him to make the wrong decision. Greg Weisman believed the show slandered Bodhe worse than Shakespeare slandered Macbeth. While Bodhe's last suggestion that Macbeth break his alliance with Demona to appease the English was wrong, cowardly, and had terrible consequences, everything else he said was right:

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** Bodhe was intended to be a DirtyCoward and the devil on Macbeth's shoulder telling him to make the wrong decision. Creator Greg Weisman believed the show he may have slandered Bodhe worse than Shakespeare slandered Macbeth. While Bodhe's last suggestion that Macbeth break his alliance with Demona to appease the English was wrong, cowardly, and had terrible consequences, everything else he said was right:



* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: A complex case, as the show has no 'created by' credit. Greg Wiseman pitched an early comic version of the show, and was producer from episode 6; Michael Reaves wrote the first six episodes, and basically developed Wiseman's comic, slapsticky premise into the ''Gargoyles'' we recognize. Given the fandom's strongly negative reaction to [[FanonDiscontinuity season 3]], it's notable that Michael and Brynne Chandler Reaves (the husband/wife team who wrote virtually all of season 1, and much of the best of season 2) had no involvement in season 3 whatsoever. Greg Wiseman DID have involvement in season 3 -- in fact, his only writing credit on the entire show was the season 3 opener, and he retained executive producer credit throughout. He has disavowed the final product, though, and has claimed that he just took the producer's fee and had no real creative say in season 3.

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: A complex case, as the show has no 'created by' credit. Greg Wiseman pitched an early comic version of the show, and was producer from episode 6; Michael Reaves wrote the first six episodes, and basically developed Wiseman's comic, slapsticky premise into the ''Gargoyles'' we recognize. Given the fandom's strongly negative reaction to [[FanonDiscontinuity season 3]], it's notable that Michael and Brynne Chandler Reaves (the husband/wife team who wrote virtually all of season 1, and much some fans see Greg as the true storyteller of the best of season 2) had no involvement in season 3 whatsoever. Greg Wiseman DID have involvement in season 3 -- in fact, his only writing credit on the entire show was the season 3 opener, and he retained executive producer credit throughout. He has disavowed the final product, though, and has claimed that he just took the producer's fee and had no real creative say in season 3. series.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The writing staff really could have done more with the Weird Sisters, after receiving many complaints that after their intriguing introduction in "City of Stone," they're ultimately revealed to just be cardboard evil henchmen for the Archmage.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The writing staff Weisman admits that he really could should have done more with the Weird Sisters, after receiving many complaints that after their intriguing introduction in "City of Stone," they're ultimately revealed to just be cardboard evil henchmen for the Archmage.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Invoked with the creation of Thailog, as Weisman felt guilty that Keith David wasn't getting to display much of his acting range as Goliath.

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Invoked with the creation of Thailog, as Weisman the writing staff felt guilty that Keith David wasn't getting to display much of his acting range as Goliath.



** In "Future Tense", the alternate universe Brooklyn mentions that Thailog died in the "Clone Wars". Greg Weisman later worked on ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' with ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars''' supervising director Dave Filoni.

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** In "Future Tense", the alternate universe Brooklyn mentions that Thailog died in the "Clone Wars". Producer Greg Weisman later worked on ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' with ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars''' supervising director Dave Filoni.



** Bodhe was intended to be a DirtyCoward and the devil on Macbeth's shoulder telling him to make the wrong decision. Creator Greg Weisman believed he slandered Bodhe worse than Shakespeare slandered Macbeth. While Bodhe's last suggestion that Macbeth break his alliance with Demona to appease the English was wrong, cowardly, and had terrible consequences, everything else he said was right:

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** Bodhe was intended to be a DirtyCoward and the devil on Macbeth's shoulder telling him to make the wrong decision. Creator Greg Weisman believed he the show slandered Bodhe worse than Shakespeare slandered Macbeth. While Bodhe's last suggestion that Macbeth break his alliance with Demona to appease the English was wrong, cowardly, and had terrible consequences, everything else he said was right:



** In "A Lighthouse In the Sea of Time", Robbins takes care to make sure that his delivery of the ReadingIsCoolAesop doesn't become preachy or narmy. Broadway, on the other hand, is a bit too [[LargeHam hammy]] when he pontificates on the magic of the written word.

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** In "A Lighthouse In the Sea of Time", Robbins takes care to make sure that his delivery of the ReadingIsCoolAesop doesn't become preachy or narmy. Broadway, on the other hand, is arguably a bit too [[LargeHam hammy]] when he pontificates on the magic of the written word.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Weisman admits that he really should have done more with the Weird Sisters, after receiving many complaints that after their intriguing introduction in "City of Stone," they're ultimately revealed to just be cardboard evil henchmen for the Archmage.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Weisman admits that he The writing staff really should could have done more with the Weird Sisters, after receiving many complaints that after their intriguing introduction in "City of Stone," they're ultimately revealed to just be cardboard evil henchmen for the Archmage.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Most fans of the show ignore Goliath Chronicles, and dismiss it as nonexistent. Hell, that was ''before'' [[WordOfGod Weisman himself]] not only made it clear he goes by that notion, but [[CanonDiscontinuity made it official as well]].

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Most fans of the show ignore Goliath Chronicles, and dismiss it as nonexistent. Hell, that was ''before'' [[WordOfGod Weisman himself]] not only (There are lots of reasons for this -- most of the writing staff had left the show; the animation studio changed; and show's the once nuanced metaphors became subtle as a flying mallet.) Greg Weisman, who had stayed on as producer for ''The Golaith Chronicles'', later made it clear he goes by that notion, but notion too, disavowing all of season 3 except for the one third season episode he wrote. If you consider the comics an official continuation, you'll find [[CanonDiscontinuity made it official they completely ignore season 3 as well]].
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Given the fandom's reaction to [[FanonDiscontinuity season 3]], some fans see Greg as the true storyteller of the series.

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: A complex case, as the show has no 'created by' credit. Greg Wiseman pitched an early comic version of the show, and was producer from episode 6; Michael Reaves wrote the first six episodes, and basically developed Wiseman's comic, slapsticky premise into the ''Gargoyles'' we recognize. Given the fandom's strongly negative reaction to [[FanonDiscontinuity season 3]], some fans see Greg as the true storyteller it's notable that Michael and Brynne Chandler Reaves (the husband/wife team who wrote virtually all of season 1, and much of the series.best of season 2) had no involvement in season 3 whatsoever. Greg Wiseman DID have involvement in season 3 -- in fact, his only writing credit on the entire show was the season 3 opener, and he retained executive producer credit throughout. He has disavowed the final product, though, and has claimed that he just took the producer's fee and had no real creative say in season 3.

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