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  • Acting for Two:
    • Keith David gives voice to Goliath, his malevolent clone Thailog, Officer Morgan, and a couple of random thugs. Goliath and the thugs interact briefly, and he clashes with Thailog at least 3 times.
    • Clancy Brown voices Hakon, Tomas Brod and Wolf. Eventually, it's explained that Hakon is actually Wolf's distant ancestor, and Wolf ends up encountering his ghost after he steals his battle-axe.
    • John Rhys-Davies voices both (adult) Macbeth and Findlaech. He averts Talking to Himself, though, since Findlaech doesn't exist in the same time period as adult Macbeth. (He was killed in 1020, and adult Macbeth is first seen in 1032.)
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    • Michael Dorn voices both Taurus and Taurus' father. The latter was actually a shape-shifter named Proteus.
  • Bad Export for You: Sweden never got the series proper, instead it got a compilation movie put together with the 5 pilot episodes undubbed.
  • Banned Episode: The episode "Deadly Force" was removed from rotation for a while, then re-aired with the scene of Broadway accidentally shooting Elisa with her own gun edited to remove the blood around Elisa's body.
  • Breakthrough Hit: Greg Weisman's fame as a writer all started with this series.
  • Channel Hop: From syndication to ABC for the third season.
    • Once more in effect as the series was uploaded in full onto Disney's official YouTube account, and later onto Disney+.
  • The Danza: Elisa's undercover name is "Salli". The same first name of her voice actress, Salli Richardson Whitfield.
  • Deleted Scene: In the first run of the series, Goliath was fighting Jon wearing a Power Armor. At some point, the former pinned the latter on the floor and savagely pound on his helm. Seeing that his hits weren't getting through, Goliath started ripping the armor when Elisa and Jason entered the scene. In later broadcasts and in the DVD release, the pounding sequence was cut.
  • Edited for Syndication: Toon Disney initially banned the episode "Deadly Force" because the episode revolved around Elisa's near-fatal shooting by Broadway (who was playing around with her gun). In 2002, Toon Disney finally showed the episode, but the part where Elisa gets shot uses a fake zoom-in on Elisa's face to cover up the blood around Elisa's torso. A later scene in this episode has Broadway sobbing, but the sound effect lasts noticeably longer than the clip used.
    • On Toon Disney and the VHS video release of "Awakenings, Part Two," Xanatos's line "Pay a man enough, and he'll walk barefoot into Hell," was cut. The DVD version has the line uncensored.
    • In Toon Disney airings of "The Reckoning," Fang saying "Kinky" after witnessing Demona's transformation into a human is cut.
    • All reruns of The Goliath Chronicles have different end credits compared to the ABC run; the Buena Vista TV logo is replaced with the Walt Disney TV logo, and the background is different, too. This was to eliminate references to the Toy Story Treats, which were vignettes that were interspersed throughout the 1996-97 ABC Saturday Morning lineup, including commercial bumpers with the Green Army Men; the reason the credits were included was because Chronicles was positioned near the end of the block at 11:30 AM (presumably the last program, Flash Forward (1996), couldn't have the credits because it was produced in Canada, and neither could the ABC Weekend Specials which followed at 12:30).
  • Executive Meddling: The Retool of the third season was caused by Disney replacing the entire production team. There's also the matter of the higher fees that caused the comic's cancellation.
    • Word of God says that the trio's motorcycle and helicopter were mandated by higher-ups who wanted to be able to sell them as toys. Of course, the motorcycle blew up within five minutes of its debut, and the helicopter showed up in one episode and was then never mentioned again...
    • Laura San Giacomo's agent refused to let her be credited for the role of Fox, believing it would damage her reputation to be on an animated show.
    • A positive one. The highers-up liked the Hunters from the "City of Stone" arc and wanted them to return. This lead to the Hunter legacy as seen in the Series Finale.
  • Follow the Leader: Made as Disney's answer to Warner Bros.' own Batman: The Animated Series as a Darker and Edgier show set in night yet still enjoyable for all audiences. Not that this is a bad thing.
  • Friday Night Death Slot: Metaphorically. The series was moved to Saturday mornings and then lobotomized to have it fit kid-vid expectations (see also Executive Meddling).
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  • International Co Production: The third season was co-produced by Canadian animation firm Nelvana.
  • Jossed: Due to having so much Word of God around, this has happened many times, on issues such as gargoyle customs and breeding habits, Elisa and Goliath's ability to reproduce, Lexington's sexuality, Katana's physical appearance, etc. Looking at older fanfics can sometimes be a very strange experience...
  • Keep Circulating the Tapes: The series is available on DVD in its entiretynote  with the exception of The Goliath Chronicles, which is unlikely to ever get a DVD release anytime soon due to its dismal reception and even being considered non-canon by Greg Weisman.
    • Greg Weisman has been pretty vocal that he has no plans to push for a DVD release. [1], [2].
    • The Goliath Chronicles is for sale digitally at the iTunes Store in the US for the curious.
    • Averted as of 2019, the whole show is on Disney+.
  • Line to God: Greg Weisman has this in the form of the "Ask Greg" section of fansite Station 8. Notable for at least two reasons: one, that Weisman will answer any and all questions submitted to the site given enough time (so long as they meet the site's guidelines), and two, that the site has been in more-or-less constant operation since 1997.

    Overall, this has led to a searchable archive of well over 14,000 answered questions since Station 8 first opened. This may account, at least in part, for the truly massive smattering of Word of God entries on this show's pages.
  • The Merch: Lex's Helicopter was created with the intention of being made for toys. Kenner, the company that made Gargoyles' toy line, declined to make a toy based on it, but did create one called the Night Striker which is very similar to it.
  • Mid-Development Genre Shift: The show was originally pitched as a comedy series. The basic premise remained the same: approximately one-thousand years ago, Gargoyles were not merely stone statues, but real flesh-and-blood creatures. But, unlike the noble protectors of the final shows, these Gargoyles were mischievous troublemakers who frequently drove the local humans nuts. This development went through several versions before being scrapped, in favor of the now darker, more serious tone of the show.
  • Name's the Same: Some viewers may snicker at the terrifying deep voiced cyborg gargoyle when they learn he shares his name with a popular ice cream franchise.
    • Xanatos pits Coyote 4.0 against Coyote the mythical American Indian trickster. The latter threatens to sue for trademark infringement. (Xanatos: "Consider it a tribute.")
  • No Export for You: Just try getting Disney to let you watch it online outside the United States...
  • The Other Darrin: Fang's sole line in "Metamorphosis" was done by Jonathan Frakes, with James Belushi playing him for the rest of the series.
  • Playing Against Type: Actors were often cast opposite to their usual roles. Thailog was created mostly to showcase Keith David's talents as a villain, Thom Adcox as future, evil Lexington, Marina Sirtis as a member of the Yuppie Couple, the list goes on. It even applies to guest stars, as Sheena Easton went from banshee to monster hunter Robyn Canmore, and Gregg Rainwater went from playing a man defending his home against a trickster in one appearance to playing another (more benevolent) trickster in the second.
  • Promoted Fanboy: Karine Charlesbois was a huge fan of the series and well known in the fandom. She was a staff member of the Gathering and later became a pencil artist for the SLG Gargoyles' Bash and Bad Guys.
  • Referenced by...: Gargoyles Abridged, The Abridged Series
  • Schedule Slip: The comic books. It's almost - almost - enough to make you glad SLG had to drop the series; it deserves better.
  • Screwed by the Network:
    • Season One was released on DVD in 2004, and Part One of Season Two was released in 2005. Part Two of Season Two was not released until 2013!
    • Disney never had any idea what to do with this series, they scheduled it once a week (on Fridays) as opposed to every day like the other programs on the Disney Afternoon block. The reason being because there were only thirteen episodes for Season One, they would've burned through the whole season in two-and-a-half weeks (assuming every episode was ready to air before the premiere, which they weren't).
    • Production was jerked around for Season Two, with the order for 52 episodes not being firmly settled until some weeks into starting, hamstringing them a bit. This is why there are so many gaps in premiere air dates (There would've been gaps anyway due to the volume of work, but Weisman has noted they lost extra time they could've used regardless).
    • They came up with downright bizarre ideas for the toy line; there's no Pack action figures, but you can have Bronx dressed like a winged metal lion for some reason. The multi-part premiere episode was packaged with a board game for some reason.
    • Gargoyles is one of the only Disney properties never to make an appearance in any kind of crossover media. Kingdom Hearts, Disney Infinity, House of Mouse, and so on. Save almost appearing in the third installment of the former, the show's almost never been considered for crossovers.
      • Finally Averted for Disney's Sorcerer's Arena, as the show will be involved for the game after a long time.
    • Much of the original run of Season Two was pre-empted by the O.J. Simpson trial.
  • Talking to Himself: Goliath and Thailog; the Archmage and his future self, as well as several minor characters voiced by the main cast.
    • Considering that Jeff Bennett and Kath Soucie did 100+ character voices each, this is pretty much a given. A quick example would be that Jeff Bennett was Brooklyn and most of the thugs he fought, and Kath Soucie was Princess Katharine and Ophelia.
  • Technology Marches On: Most notably those enormous 90s cell phones. Not to mention the huge boxy computer CRT monitors.
    • In Walkabout, a research facility on nanotechnology still use data cartridges. Not for backups, but for running the Matrix program. Amusingly, Dingo's Power Armor is equipped to play these things.
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  • Unintentional Period Piece: If the now largely-outdated 90s tech (flip phones, CRT monitors) didn't tip you off, the presence of the World Trade Center towers in the skyline definitely does.
    • Not to mention the portable VHS player Owen handed to Xanatos in "Enter Macbeth".
  • What Could Have Been: Coco was originally supposed to be part of the main cast, but was replaced by Broadway for a variety of reasons, including the admission that more homely female characters are less accepted, and that female characters solve emotional and personal problems amongst the cast too easily. She was eventually introduced into the comics as a member of the London clan.
    • Weisman also worked on a TV spinoff of Atlantis: The Lost Empire, and planned to make one episode a Cross Through with Demona and that era's Hunter. Atlantis became a Stillborn Franchise and the show was canned before it aired, but an audio track of the episode exists and Weisman says the Broad Strokes are still canon in the Gargoyles 'verse.
    • A live-action film with creature design by makeup legend Rick Baker was being developed in 1998 until being cancelled.
    • Patrick Stewart was considered for the role of Goliath, Macbeth and King Arthur. However, Stewart's agent commanded a high salary. Greg Weisman and his crew thought of asking Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis to pressure Stewart's agent into lowering it down. Ultimately, they decided not to because they realized it would have been unfair to both Frakes and Stirtis.
    • A Direct-to-Video movie was in the works. "City of Stone" was originally pitched as this and while liked, it was turned down as a movie because (as Weisman conceded) the main cast only play supporting roles. "Hunter's Moon" was subsequently conceived, but a video release was scrapped altogether and it became a three-parter.
      • On a related note, "The Reckoning" was to be a two-parter and the Season 2 finale. When the movie was scrapped, it was shortened to a one-parter to help make room for "Hunter's Moon" to still be produced.
    • Originally, there was going to be another Gargoyle at the series' start. Taking the name Ralph, he was going to be more reluctant to fight and instead spend his time watching television (a quality that Hudson ultimately inherited).
    • The leader of the clan was originally supposed to be a female gargoyle named Dakota, but the creators couldn't work out an interesting personality for her. Goliath ended up being created to take over the leader role, while Dakota was ReTooled into a villain, becoming Demona.
    • A female human was always meant to be the clan's chief ally in the modern world, but she went through a lot of development before becoming the character familiar from the show. Most obviously, she went through several names (she was Morgan for a while), and occupations (museum curator, school teacher, even Xanatos's business partner) before finally settling on Elisa Maza, police detective. She was also originally supposed to be a Hispanic woman, but was changed to match her VA's racial background.
    • Similarly, the man who would become David Xanatos was always part of the show, but was originally conceived as a bungling, comical figure and a descendant of the character who would become the Magus (who was an Evil Sorcerer at this stage of development- the evil tenth century wizard role would end up going to the Archmage, and the modern descendant of an ancient foe role to Wolf). When the show's focus switched from action/comedy to action/drama, though, he quickly became a more familiar Machiavellian mastermind. His name was Xavier for much of his initial conception, but was changed to Xanatos to avoid confusion with another Xavier.
    • Owen would have been a much more comedic figure with the original concept having him accidentally turned into a talking aardvark by a spell and spending the rest of the series walking around as an animal in a suit.
    • CBS was interested in broadcasting the Bad Guys spin-off, but after Disney took over ABC, it got canceled. Only a leica reel was made and it was later shown at the Gatherings. Bad Guys would eventually be made in a 6 part comic book.
    • Weisman had a whole mess of other spin-offs planned. One set a hundred years in the future with the characters' descendants fighting an alien invasion, one set back in 10th century Scotland, one where humanity makes first contact with the New Olympians (complete with a pair of Star-Crossed Lovers between the two races), one where we follow King Arthur and Griff on their quest to rebuild Camelot... sadly, none have come to pass.
    • The Goliath Cronicles episode "Ransom" (now known for its Chickification of Fox after her son is kidnapped) was originally supposed to involve Puck and Lexington having to get Alex back from three other Avalon tricksters: Coyote, Anasi, and Raven.
    • Originally, Elisa was going to be half African-American, half Mexican-American, and her name was going to be "Elisa Chavez."
    • All the Mayan gargoyles were planned to be snake-like, but only Zafiro ended up like this.
    • Greg had a Disney employee in talks with Square Enix to include the Gargoyles property in Kingdom Hearts, but said employee was "let go" before they could be finalized.
    • Jordan Peele, fresh off his success with Get Out!, approached Disney to do a live-action feature film remake of the series, but the company turned him down.
  • The Wiki Rule: Two wikis: Grimorum on Wikia and GargWiki.
  • Word of Gay: According to many posts at the website above, Lexington was this, but it was never implied or explicitly stated in the show. This was mentioned before the comic came out.
    • In the comic book continuation, he meets a stag-headed male gargoyle of the London Clan named Amp who looks to be set up as a future Love Interest. Greg Weisman confirmed at the 2011 CONVergence Gargoyles panel that Lex has a crush on Amp.
  • Word of God: Creator Greg Weisman, who contributes to a fairly elaborate lexicon website outlining 1000 years worth of history for the series, including ones not yet produced. And with answers to questions ranging from politics to gargoyle sex to in-jokes.
    • Another Weisman/Disney series, W.I.T.C.H., is stated to be fictional in the Gargoyles-verse, as a song from the show was played on a boombox in the first issue of the Bad Guys comic (which means that it was apparently produced in the mid-90s in-universe).
    • Boreas, Kiron, Taurus, Ekidna, Sphinx, and the other New Olympians are apparently mixtures of human, Third Race, and various animals, and it shows.
    • Bruno was stated to be assembling a new security team.
    • In the planned spinoff Gargoyles 2198, Demona would have taken a role somewhere between The Atoner and Token Evil Teammate.


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