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Welcome to the Complete Monster proposal thread! This is the thread where new Complete Monster examples are vetted, approved, and written up. If you're looking for the general cleanup thread (for cuts, rewrites, expansions, and the like), please go here

Important: Before suggesting any new examples, please read the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List; if you have any questions, the odds are high they are answered there. Additionally, please check here for the earliest date a work can be discussed (usually two weeks from the U.S. release date) and whether the work has already been reserved by another user.

Here is how the process works:

    Process 

  1. If you have a candidate to propose, you can simply come right in and propose them! If the character's run is brief, such as a single issue of a comic book, then a simple summary of their actions and any potential redeeming qualities will be enough; for longer-running candidates, an effortpost (EP) might be helpful for organizing the proposal. An EP is not outright required, but please be mindful that if a post becomes too clunky and unorganized, it can be very hard for other people to follow.

  2. After the proposal, there will be a 72-hour discussion and voting period, where people may ask questions and vote on the candidate. The number of upvotes must outnumber the downvotes by at least five for the character to be considered "approved".

  3. Three days after the proposal has been made, if the character has been approved, you may post the writeup (the text to be posted on the trope page itself) on the thread and send it to the drafts page. Your candidate will soon be added to the CM subpage. If the work has a page, you should add your candidate to the relevant YMMV page. Voila! It's that simple!

Outside of this process, we do have a few ground rules:

    Ground Rules 

  1. To keep the thread moving at a reasonable pace, there are some restrictions on when a proposal can be made. There should only be a maximum of four EPs posted both per page and per hour to ensure that nothing gets lost in the shuffle; additionally, each individual troper should only be proposing or writing up characters from a maximum of three works at a time (from initial proposals to end of their voting period). If your proposal would fall outside of either of these guidelines, we'd like to ask you to please wait until they would fit within; feel free to type them up on an outside document, and then when the time comes, you can just copy, paste, and post!

  2. No plagiarism of any kind. This is a very serious matter site-wide, as the website could get in actual legal trouble over this; as a result, this can very quickly lead to mod intervention. This can take many different forms:
    1. Direct plagiarism, i.e. wholesale copying. This is not only the easiest to find, but is also the most likely to warrant quick moderator intervention. To be clear, quoting in some places is perfectly acceptable, but it has to be very clear you're quoting from something else and it cannot be anything longer than a sentence or two - if you're quoting an entire work summary from Wikipedia, no one is going to believe you've actually consumed the work, so even if you cite your source, your candidate will be downvoted anyway.
    2. Self-plagiarism. Even if you can prove that you wrote the same text in both places, the site itself can't contain any of the duplicated text. If you already wrote something once before, it's not too hard to write it a second time.
    3. Using another site's work as a template for a proposal. Just because you don't copy and paste something directly doesn't mean it's any harder to detect if you're basing parts or all of your proposal on text someone else wrote. To be clear, this doesn't violate site rules and won't lead to mod intervention, but just like if you directly plagiarize, no one will believe you've consumed the work if you're clearly basing your proposal on something else. This thread largely operates on the honor system, and tweaking someone else's work to pass it off as your own is one of the fastest ways to lose trust.

  3. Votes must be for specific candidates, meaning no blanket voting (i.e. "yes to everyone I missed").

  4. If you are the first person to downvote a candidate, please provide an explanation of why when you do so. We're here for discussions above all, and a hit-and-run downvote doesn't facilitate anything.

  5. If a work is already reserved by another user, please don't comment on the work or any potential characters worth discussion before the discussion date. We know how exciting it is when a work has a keeper that you're waiting to talk about, but it's not fair to the person who reserved the work who is just as excited to lead the discussion to see the discussion getting spoiled before they get to do it. On the other hand, if the reservation only has one name attached, shoot them a PM - they may be down for a collaboration, which will get you in on the fun as well!

  6. Please keep the thread on-topic. While discussing the trope is fun and we encourage people to enjoy it, questions like "who's your favorite CM" are off-topic and can lead to thumps. That's the kind of question to take to people's PMs if they're willing. Similarly, while we encourage friendliness and familiarity with other users, posts should always have some kind of thread-relevant purpose; for instance, if you want to wish someone a happy birthday, feel free to, but if it's the only thing in the post, it's off-topic and needs something else alongside it. Again, though, while we strive for a friendly atmosphere, this is not Facebook; life updates are fun, but unless they have some kind of impact on your thread participation, please do not bring it here - we have Yack Fest for that.

  7. Please refrain from asking anything along the lines of "How Did We Miss This One?" In almost every case, the answer is simply "No one thought about it before". This Is a Wiki where everyone has different interests, and the fact that people missed a particular candidate, even one that seems like a textbook example of a trope or a character who is particularly iconic in pop culture, means absolutely nothing. The question is disruptive, has a simple and consistent answer, and provides nothing to any discussion.

  8. If you are suspended from parts of the website, it is still possible to participate!
    1. For users who are suspended from editing the wiki, you still have full access to this thread. You can propose candidates and write them up with no issues whatsoever; while you will have to ask someone else to post the entry to the relevant pages once it is done, all write-ups are considered thread-approved - as in, done by consensus - and thus doing so does not violate any rules regarding meatpuppeting.
    2. If you are suspended from the forums, your participation is limited but not impossible. It is still possible for a forum-suspended user to assist in creating the write-up for a character who has already been approved; as previously mentioned, write-ups are inherently considered a consensus-based edit and thus not tied to any one particular user. However, you can not assist in the proposal of a character; as a proposal is based around the forum rather than the wiki, doing so with a forum suspension qualifies as meatpuppeting.

  9. Please keep all discussions "in-house".
    1. What other wikis use for CM equivalents is irrelevant here.
    2. Please be wary of using other wikis, Fandom or otherwise, as sources of information. They are just as fallible as a site like Wikipedia in regards to accuracy because they can be edited by any user, just as this site can.
    3. Do not attempt to force a communication with an author in an attempt to gather evidence or settle a debate; besides the fact that this is a YMMV trope and thus author intent has variable weight depending on the circumstance, doing so may cross the line into drama exportation, which is prohibited site-wide.

If you would like to use an EP for your candidate, here's the general format. This format does not have to be followed exactly, but these are the main topics that need to be covered:

    Effortpost Template 

What is the work?

This is a brief summary of the work you're going to discuss. We don't need a full plot summary here, just however much we need to understand going into the discussion — it can even be as simple as quoting the summary on the work's page.

Who is the candidate and what have they done?

This is essentially the character's biography — who they are, their story, the crimes they commit, and, preferably (though not required), what happens to the candidate at the end. It does not have to include every single thing they ever do — for some villains, we'd be here all day if that was the case — but it should include the highlights of their journey.

Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?

This is where any potential redeeming characteristics or tragic backstory should be discussed. Do they have a tragic past? Do they show that Even Evil Has Standards or Even Evil Has Loved Ones? Maybe a Pet the Dog moment or two? This is where these should be discussed in full. Not every potential redeeming moment is a clear-cut disqualifier, but we should hear of any potential issues to ensure the character is discussed in full.

Are they bad enough?

A Complete Monster has to be particularly vile by the standard of the work they appear in. Therefore, you should look at what the character does compared to similar characters in the same work. This takes into account things like:

  • Their resource level (a human Serial Killer can't stand up to an alien Omnicidal Maniac, but they can be bad by the standard of other human serial killers)
  • The amount of time they have to work with (such as a one-shot character versus long-running antagonists)
  • The quantity vs. quality of their crimes compared to others (someone with a lower victim count but far more visceral and personal crimes could be considered as equally bad overall as someone with a higher body count but less horror involved)

Essentially, this section is an analysis of the kinds of villainy shown in the work and an explanation of why this particular character's villainy stands out within it.

Final verdict?

This is where you post your final conclusion on the character in question. You can continue elaborating on your reasons or even just say a simple "yes" or "no"; at this point, we've heard everything we need to hear.

IMPORTANT NOTICE: This thread tackles very serious and dark matters on a daily basis. We will be discussing things like murder, rape, torture, human trafficking, crimes against children, and in particularly dark cases, several of these issues at the same time. We keep a lighthearted air, but all candidates carry the general assumption that these are awful individuals committing disgusting crimes. We ask that if you participate, you do so with the requisite seriousness such dark topics require; exclamations of how gross something is, whether serious or sarcastic, are disrespectful to the topics at hand, and if you cannot handle such topics, please do not participate.

And that's everything you need to know. Welcome to the thread!


Edited by Twiddler on Jan 17th 2024 at 5:42:49 AM

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#36552: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:09:47 AM

@Yorkobe Shounen I kept Demise's write-up brief since the manga is so short, and I pretty much covered everything.

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ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#36553: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:12:27 AM

Agent: Maybe it's just semantics, but I always considered a serial rapist one with many victims, not one with a single victim over years.

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#36554: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:13:08 AM

[tup]queen of the black puddle and Thomas.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
YorkobeShounen Since: Dec, 2022
#36555: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:25:48 AM

[up][up] I feel that you could still do more then summarize, a writeup needs some flake to emphasize how evil they are especially specific moments

The writeup feels very matter of fact

Edited by YorkobeShounen on Feb 4th 2024 at 11:26:09 AM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#36556: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:27:18 AM

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  • Marvel Fan Works
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  • Treasure Planet: Scroop is the most bloodthirsty member of John Silver's mutineers. Completely lacking in his boss's standards and redeeming qualities, Scroop introduces himself nearly killing fifteen-year-old cabin boy Jim Hawkins for mouthing off to him. When first mate Mr. Arrow reins Scroop in, Scroop pays him back later by sadistically cutting the lifeline keeping Arrow from falling into a black hole, then pins the blame on Jim just to hurt him even more. Scroop constantly seeks to undermine Silver's authority over him so he can kill off the crew of the R.L.S. Legacy, and meets his end attempting to doom Jim to a slow death in the vacuum of the Etherium: "Do say hello to Mr. Arrow!"
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  • Wawanakwa Massacre (2014) (link): Chris McLean and Mildred "Blaineley" Stacey Andrews O'Halloran are the two masterminds behind the Wawanakwa Massacre. Wishing to get back their fame and fortune, McLean and Blainely plan on bringing the contestants back to the island so they can be murdered, so Chris can act like the hero while Blainely writes a book off her survival. Roping Chef Hatchet, Josh, and Courtney into the plot, the two cause the brutal deaths of 9 of the contestants. When they escaped to the Casa De Losers, the duo continues slaughtering the contestants until only Geoff, Izzy, and Lindsay are left, with Chris and Blainely betraying and killing both Josh and Courtney to frame them. After killing Bridget and tying up the remaining survivors, Blainely betrays and kills Chris and attempts to finish off the cast, and despite being killed by Izzy, manages to still ruin their lives as she frames Izzy for the murders and causes her to go to an institution, while leaving lifelong trauma for both Lindsay and Geoff.
  • Natural Selection: Ragyo Kiryuin is the CEO of REVOCS and the monstrous matriarch of the Kiryuin family. Seeking to research the effects Life Fibers have on humans, Ragyo manipulates Soichiro Matoi into falling for and marrying her, using their two daughters Satsuki and Ryuko as the first test subjects, almost killing the latter. Throughout the years, Ragyo would order separate hits on both Soichiro and Satsuki; drills a Humans Are Insects mindset into her younger daughters Ryuko and Nui; subjects Ryuko to an Amnesia Loop with Mind Stitching; and rapes and molests all three daughters, sometimes coercing Ryuko and Nui into molesting Satsuki. When Ryuko confronts her about Satsuki running away, Ragyo viciously beats her and subjects her to Mind Stitching so brutal, it leaves her an Empty Shell until Junketsu's botched attempt to fix her leaves her violent and unstable. Eventually, it's revealed that Ragyo's ultimate plan is to betray the Life Fibers during their plot and rule over all as a goddess, subjecting countless beings to an awful fate. Ragyo's actions, from the abuse of her daughters to her apocalyptic endgame, disgusts everyone, even the Life Fibers she supposedly worships.
  • Hellaverse fanfic Revelation: Alastor, The Radio Demon, is portrayed as a sadistic and deranged tyrant. Murdering Lucifer and arresting Charlie Morningstar, Alastor turns Hell into an even worse dictatorship, where he punishes all crime, regardless of severity. Alastor massacres anyone for even trying to question him, sending prisoners into the Pit of Fire, where their spirits are broken through torture before being thrown into a fire pit to burn to death. Enraged over a minor criticism Moxxie made, Alastor massacres Imp City out of spite. Capturing Moxxie, Blitzo, and Stolas, Alastor subjects them to intense torture and orders their execution date to draw out fugitives, torturing Moxxie to force him to stop the revolution against him and proceeding to order all rebels to be executed when Moxxie refuses, even murdering his right-hand man Edrich for conspiring against him. When the prison goes down in flames, Alastor abandons Vox and Valentino to die as he turns into a giant monster to try and kill the resistance in one final attempt to keep his power that he believes he rightfully earns.
  • Obsession (link): Norman Derringer is the abusive ex-husband of Maya DiMartino and the one responsible for all her trauma. Initially seeming like the perfect man, Norman showed his true colors after they got married, physically abusing her to the point where she had a miscarriage. After she was able to work up the courage to leave him, Norman became a Serial Killer and Serial Rapist known as the L.A. Ripper, preying on women who resembled Maya. Initially only refraining from going after her because he doesn't want her to think he cares, Norman's obsession gets the better of him, and he tracks down and brutally tortures Maya's older sister Elena to get Maya's location, killing Elena after he gets this information. Arriving in Royal Woods, Norman breaks into Maya's house and attempts to rape and murder her, and attempts to kill Lincoln when he intervenes to try to save Maya from Norman.
  • How I Became A Superhero: Mathias "Naja" Najarovski is a childish man who is making the drugs that gives people superpowers. Once a child whose parents had his powers removed, Naja killed them in retaliation and became obsessed with trying to recreate having powers. For this, Naja has superhumans abducted so he can slowly drains all of their blood out of them until they die to create the super drug. Naja then sells the drugs on the streets, causing a wave of violent crimes. When he learns Lieutenant Moreau has powers, Naja orders his men to capture him to drain him as well, and also abducts the 15-year-old Lily to drain her.
  • Lift (2024): Lars Jorgensen is a wealthy businessman who became a feared terrorist mastermind, financing terrorist attacks around the world for his own monetary gain, including staging an attack on a New Zealand plane that killed 183 people. Jorgensen then starts planning with the hacker group Leviathan on staging a massive global flooding that would kill millions of innocent people. When Arthur Tigue rats him out, Jorgensen has his right-hand Cormac kidnap and torture him before having Arthur Eaten Alive by Cormac's attack dog. To have proof of Leviathan's abilities, Jorgensen has them flood Madrid, resulting in many deaths. Jorgensen then has his men board a commercial airliner going to Zurich that contains the gold with which Jorgensen will pay Leviathan, and Cormac takes Cyrus and his thieves with him, along with the gold, to Jorgensen's estate in Italy. When the plane crash lands on his estate and the Leviathan leader finds out one of the thieves is Interpol, Jorgensen shoots and kills her when she attempts to back out of the deal, and attempts to kill the rest of the thieves.
  • Island of the Lizard King: The Lizard King, once a chieftain of the lizard men of Fire Island, took over the island's penal colony and converts it into a slave camp, forcing hundreds of prisoners to toil away in the island's gold mines, resulting in their deaths. Eager to ensure his dominance, the Lizard King bonds with a powerful Gonchong to make himself invincible and immortal, and launches raids across numerous islands around Fire Island over the course of several years, abducting more slaves when his current batch runs out and leaving numerous coastal villages in ruins, as well as conducting inhumane experiments on prisoners and even his own lizard men servants to ensure total control over his subjects and his eternal dominance.
  • Season 2:
    • Shane Langston is the chief of security for New Age, who seeks to use his position to exploit the company's new technology for profit, no matter how many lives are lost. Langston plans to sell 650 "Little Wing" missile microchips to the weapons dealer A.M., indifferent that the tech will be used by terrorists to bring down civilian airplanes and kill thousands. When members of Reacher's old unit, the 110th, accidentally stumble across the scheme, Langston has them kidnapped, brutally tortured, then murdered by being thrown out of a helicopter, threatening the woman who hired them with a similar fate for herself and her young daughter. Langston dispatches a variety of trigger-happy thugs to kill the rest of the 110th with no concern for the collateral body count they rack up, and after a failed attempt to torture and kill the rest of his enemies, Langston ditches his allies to die to save his own skin, and promises to later target the loved ones of the 110th to finish them off.
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  • Vol. 3: The Unhappiest Place on Earth:
    • "Miss Bliss" is a sadist out to dominate others. Working with Fantasy Funland owner Dalton Trayer to secure funding for his theme park, Bliss establishes a human trafficking operation underneath the park, kidnapping young girls to be eventually sold as sex slaves. Bliss also tortures women for sexual pleasure, doing so to Madison Wynter with hopes of mentally breaking her to the point of becoming her latest pet.
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  • William Afton was a notorious Serial Killer who murdered several children at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza by dressing up as an Accessory-Wearing Cartoon Animal to gain their trust. Eventually, Afton would be horrifically burnt in a fire, only kept alive by Andrew, one of his victims torturing him for revenge. Afton would then trick Arthur Blyth and the hospital staff into bringing him to a Fazbear Distribution Center to free him of Andrew, spreading Agony across the city to infect and corrupt countless toys, mascots, and animatronics, indirectly causing many incidents where the corrupted mascots would attack people. Afton himself would end up possessing the Stitchwraith with Andrew and Jake, discretely using the animatronic to kill several people and pinning it on Andrew. When Jake tries to help Andrew ascend to the afterlife, Afton tries to stop them out of spite, and when that fails, proceeds to viciously maul Jake in rage. Leaving Jake for dead, Afton, empowered by Eleanor, would then fuse all the corrupted toys and mascots with him, to create Afton's Amalgamation, with the fusion causing the sapient toys and mascots constant pain. Afton's rampage would have eventually endangered the entire city, where he intended to kill even more children to [satisfy his neverending need to inflict pain and suffering onto others.
  • This Storm: Salvador "Salvy" Abascal, head of the Mexican Sinarquista party, poses as a fascist to profit off of World War II. Once having participated in a gold heist, Salvy comes to his current office with the proceeds and radicalizes hopeful operatives by demanding they each commit three murders. With thousands enslaved in his plants, Salvy allies with Dudley Smith in a plot to run Mexican and Japanese slaves to America, along with heroin, to continue lining his pockets. Betraying Dudley, Salvy uses the opportunity to run saboteurs along with their slaves, plotting to eradicate rival fascist factions and violently rob Americans to line his own pockets.
  • Reign of the Seven Spellblades Vol. 10: The Patriarch of the Sherwood Clan is the grandfather of Chloe Halford and great-grandfather of Gwyn and Shannon Sherwood and Oliver Horn. Only present in an extended flashback sequence, Mr. Sherwood took in Chloe's widower Edgar Groves and their young son Oliver after her murder, dismissing Edgar as a "stud horse" and used Oliver to play back the Ghost Memory of his mother's Rasputinian Death, forcing him to relive the agony in first person. Sherwood then pushed Edgar to repeatedly train his son to the point of death in order to enable him to perform a Merger of Souls to get the power to avenge his mother, but really only wanted to see how far one could take the Sherwoods' family magic before dying of it. When Oliver hit puberty, in order to keep the soul merge magic "in the family", Sherwood commanded Oliver to sire a child with Shannon, and when Oliver refused, immediately injected him with a near-lethal dose of psychoactive drugs and unleashed him on his cousin to impregnate her by force; when the pregnancy ended in stillbirth, Sherwood jovially promised to keep trying until she carried one to term. A controlling sociopath who ruled over his family with an iron fist, Sherwood went to his grave convinced that everything he'd done had been for the good of the family, heedless of the lasting harm he'd done to his own flesh and blood well into the series' present day.
  • Season 5: Roy Tillman, third-generation owner of the Tillman Ranch and Sheriff of Stark County, Minnesota, is the dirtiest cop Fargo has ever produced. A particularly nasty breed of constitutional sheriff, Tillman runs Stark County like his own medieval fiefdom, disposing of the casualties of his criminal business in a dedicated mass grave on the ranch. After murdering his long-abused first wife, Linda, Roy moved onto a teenage runaway named Nadine Bump, grooming her, marrying her, then raping and abusing her for the next two years before Nadine ran away. Roy obsessively hounds Nadine, now named "Dot" in the present day after remarrying, to place her back under his thumb as he feels is his right; at one point, Roy dispatches minions to capture Dot's innocent husband Wayne so he can torture him, and when his men capture the wrong person by accident, Roy irritably blows his brains out. After federal pressure comes down on him after he impulsively kills the lawyer of Dot's wealthy mother-in-law, Roy whips up a right-wing militia to kill as many cops as possible. Roy has no loyalty to anyone but himself in the end; he abandons his oldest son Gator after the latter is blinded, attempts to murder his third wife Karen after killing her dad—his own father-in-law—and abandons all of his own men to die in a suicidal last stand while he sneaks off through a secret escape tunnel. Hypocritical in every quality he calls virtuous, Roy is nothing but a despicable coward beneath his macho John Wayne image, a bully and a "baby" who steps on others to make himself feel big.
  • Murder is Easy (2023 series): Honoria Waynflete, despite presenting herself as a friendly, unassuming local spinster, is truthfully a smug, selfish, sadistic, and bitter woman driven by an all-consuming hatred for her former friend Lord Witfield. Not content with anything but his utter destruction, Honoria murders anyone who slights or even insults Witfield, casually causing eight innocent people to die in often elaborate and painful manners, such as swapping Amy Gibbs's medicine with hair dye or drowning Harry Carter, all to frame Witfield and ensure he's hanged in disgrace. To complete her plan, Honoria lures Witfield's fiancée, Bridget Conway, into the woods, intending to stab her to death with Witfield's dagger, and when foiled, flat-out attempts to strangle Bridget with her bare hands.
  • 1994 series: "The Dark Man", Randall Flagg, is a diabolical emissary of evil who helps orchestrate the unleashing of the Captain Trips virus and its subsequent decimation of humanity. Causing suffering everywhere he goes, Flagg establishes his own fiefdom in Las Vegas where he encourages utter depravity while torturing and executing anyone who opposes his rule. Flagg arranged the bombing of the town hall of peaceful, rival community Boulder, and he plans to use nuclear weapons to wipe out all life in Boulder, then hold any other pockets of humanity hostage under similar threat if they don't cow to him. Willing to cripple, mutilate, and murder his own minions for the pettiest reasoning, Flagg oversees the cruel deaths of multiple lead characters, and personally rapes Nadine so viciously that she becomes an Empty Shell whom Flagg hopes to use as nothing but a broodmare.
  • Legion's "Chapter 14": In one of the Alternate Universes the episode focuses on, Amahl Farouk—the Shadow King—succeeds in his goal to utterly corrupt David. Having tormented David since youth, Farouk sways him into using his powers to get ahead in the corporate world, reading minds and manipulating those around him. Eventually becoming the richest man on Earth and "uniting" all of humanity under him as subservients whom he keeps under constant psychic surveillance, Farouk has David keep his old boss around as an assistant just to mistreat her; tortures his sister Amy's mind until her nose bleeds in a petty show of power; and keeps a posse around him of men and women implied to be a psychically enslaved harem.
  • Hector Magdelena himself was a violent drug dealer who informed to Wilhite in return for the LAPD turning a blind eye as he flooded the streets with poison. Also horribly abusive to his family, Hector regularly beat his wife and two children and even groomed his daughter Lucille to sleep with his criminal allies, Wilhite in particular using her for years.
  • Battlefront II (2005): Emperor Palpatine's evil casts a shadow over all of the game's events:
    • "Rise of the Empire": After creating the 501st Legion to serve his personal interests, Palpatine begins preparing for his Empire by having them steal the power core for the Death Star. After General Grievous's death, Palpatine executes Order 66, having Vader and the 501st kill every Knight, Master, guard, and child aligned with the Jedi. With full power secured, Palpatine crushes any attempt at rebellion, including massacring the Queen of his home planet of Naboo and her security force and forcing the 501st to kill an army of rival Clones alongside the Kamino leadership. After having the 501st put down a Death Star prison riot by killing every prisoner involved, Palpatine works to crush the Rebellion through the Death Star; when the Death Star is destroyed, Palpatine responds by having the Rebel forces on Yavin IV massacred, then tracks the Rebellion to Hoth to crush them once and for all.
    • "Galactic Conquest"'s "The Confederate Uprising" & "Dark Reign of the Empire": If the Confederacy wins the game, Darth Sidious leads his forces in killing everyone associated with the Republic, including his loyal Clone army, the Jedi, and Anakin Skywalker, to take power with his Empire. If the Empire wins the game, Palpatine's Empire crushes the Rebellion, with his army destroying Endor and its population while Palpatine forces Luke Skywalker to kneel before him.
  • Grand Theft Auto V: Peter Dreyfuss is a seemingly eccentric but egotistical retired Vinewood director, and a twisted "artist" obsessed with the suffering of others. The culprit of Leonora Johnson's infamous murder, Dreyfuss had tortured and raped Leonora for an extended period, mutilating her both physically and sexually while she was still alive, before decapitating her. Years after the fact, Dreyfuss torments her surviving family with taunting phone calls and messages, regularly sending them Leonora's belongings and severed body parts. In a confession letter to his "friend", Dreyfuss subtly belittles him for not understanding why he did it, comparing it to other instances of torturing hitchhikers; sleeping with young girls; and paying two prostitutes to stab each other. Confronted by Franklin, Dreyfuss cowardly tries to flee, attempting to justify himself by claiming he "immortalized" Leonora through his art.
  • The Life and Suffering of Sir Brante: Dorius Otton, the military commander of the province of Magra, is corrupt even by the depthless standards of the Arknian nobility. Before Brante even reaches adulthood, Dorius is a rapist and abuser who first meets the player attempting to reclaim his runaway slave, a young commoner named Sophia. Age only refines Dorius's cruelty; as military commander of Magra, Dorius goes from village to village collecting an exorbitant tax from the commoners, pillaging and razing at his own merriment while brutally putting down any resistance. Should Brante's Justice rating fall too low, Dorius will order a mob of hundreds of disaffected villagers put down by force, leading to a horrible massacre should Brante be unable to or unwilling to stop it. Dorius's endgame for Magra is the "Night of the Serpents", where on behalf of his benefactor Archduke Milanidas, Dorius will purge the province of any political rivals and their innocent families. Dorius also has a tendency to force people—mostly his own men—to participate in lopsided duels to the death, often repeatedly challenging them after their resurrection until they meet their True Death. Reviled not just by the peasantry but by almost all of his own Arknian allies, if convicted both sides will find Dorius Otton equally guilty of unremitting evil.
  • The Lost Crown: Jahandar, "Guardian of the Citadel", is a vile Manticore. Hunting men for both food and to satisfy his bloodlust, Jahandar previously roamed the Hyrcanian Forest devouring its villagers, including a child, while dooming said village to famine after killing their livestock. Terrorizing the Citadel for fun, Jahandar slayed all 500 warriors sent to stop him, before losing to King Darius. Forced to guard the Citadel by Darius, Jahandar spent many more years feasting on humans, their bones littering his arena.
  • A ROBLOX Quest series: The Phantom Orb is a shadowy entity seeking to claim the elements of Robloxia to Take Over the World. Debuting in Quest to the Guest, Phantom Orb brainwashes Guest into attacking his bullies and conquering Robloxia. When the player manages to stop his plans, he tries to kill both them and Guest by exploding himself. Returning in Bloxxy-Tooie, Phantom Orb possesses Graciela and transforms her into Grantilda. As Grantilda, the Phantom Orb attacks the Mayahem Temple on the Isle 'O Jiggs, shattering the sacred Jiggy before being expelled by the player. In his final appearance, Phantom Orb uses the elements stolen in the previous game to attack Roblox HQ, killing Shedletsky during the attack, and builds the OmeDarkTron. After his plans are foiled for the third time, Phantom Orb instead decides to destroy the world and steals the souls of the element guardians to empower himself before being defeated in the final battle.
  • The Sniper 2:
    • Senator Belini is the true mastermind behind the Tacklmacain conspiracy. Hoping to spread Tacklmacain across the entire world in order to sell vaccines, Belini partners with the Bernaldi Family to acquire the Tacklmacain and kill anybody who stands in their way, with his greed resulting in numerous deaths. Once Bernaldi bites it, Belini arrives to put an end to protagonist Harry Spencer.
    • Robert Bernaldi is the head of the Bernaldi Family who joined Belini's conspiracy for money. Forcing CIA Agent Gabriel Armitage to act as his attack dog by threatening the life of his girlfriend Cindy Miller, Bernaldi had Gabriel kill countless people and betray all his friends for fun, even using him to steal the Tacklmacain from the CIA. Using Cindy as a mole to ensure his opponents don't get in his way, Bernaldi gives Belini warheads to further spread Tacklmacain across the entire world, and once they've been disarmed, Bernaldi attempts to hold C.A. hostage while bragging to Gabriel how he's won again.

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#36557: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:39:46 AM

[up][up] I did that. I described him slaughtering villages, killing Link, and mocking him.

[up] @ACW I’d request removing the Beneath the Earth pothole and putting back the Kick the Dog one, as the latter is more important in terms of what makes Demise so evil.

Edited by Remnant43 on Feb 4th 2024 at 2:41:42 PM

Balls idk
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#36558: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:41:39 AM

Yes to the Black Puddle Queen and Thomas! Also thank you Crow for talking this one over with me/inspiring me via your own. Silent Hill: Downpour starts with the main character's son's tragic death at the hands of a mundane monster... the disgusting Patrick Napier.

Who is Napier? What has he done?

A revolting convicted child molester, Napier manages to dodge justice after kidnapping, assaulting and killing protagonist Murphy Pendleton's young son Charlie. Although he isn't caught for the crime, he is arrested after doing the same to an eight-year-old boy and to sentenced life imprisonment, where he's kept in isolation at Ryall State Prison. For revenge, Murphy gets himself arrested and makes a deal with the crooked Corrections officer George Sewell to be allowed access to Napier, brutally beating him and—in canon—stabbing the deserving bastard to death as he pleads for his life.

Heinousness?

While child abuse is aplenty in this horror series, sexual abuse is not and while Thomas Orosco has the incestuous, prolonged attacks on Angela under his belt, Napier is a multiple child rapist (and killer) who horribly drowns poor Charlie after assaulting the boy. Even beyond the two he explicitly raped and killed, he's already a convicted child molester, so at the very least a third attack can be inferred.

He's completely unrelated to the Order and like Thomas, for a common criminal type villain it's something utterly grotesque that he does.

Mitigating factors?

His character is that of a cowardly pedophile, what do you think?

Verdict?

Keep.

Edited by 43110 on Feb 4th 2024 at 2:43:28 PM

Remnant43 The Salesman’s Stolen Mask from In Your Walls Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
The Salesman’s Stolen Mask
#36559: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:42:09 AM

Ew. [tup] to Napier.

Balls idk
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#36560: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:43:41 AM

[tup]Napier

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
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#36561: Feb 4th 2024 at 11:47:17 AM

[tup] Napier

"No running in the halls!"
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Gentle Laborer
#36564: Feb 4th 2024 at 12:03:41 PM

[tup] to Napier, who for some reason looks exactly like Philip Seymour Hoffman.

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Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
#36566: Feb 4th 2024 at 12:12:04 PM

[tup] Napier

Got a fairy tale keeper here

The work

From the anthology book English Fairy Tales by Joseph Jacobs comes Mr. Fox, a story about a young woman named Mary. Mary has had many lovers until she met a man named Mr. Fox, who seduced Mary and the 2 get engaged.

Only we learn Mr. Fox has a dark secret.

Who is Mr. Fox and what has he done

Only known as Mr. Fox, nobody knows who he is except that he's brave and rich, wooing Mary until she agrees to marry him.

Now Mr. Fox has a castle, but for some reason never showed it off to Mary, so a few days before the wedding Mary decides to go check it out while Mr. Fox is out on business.

When Mary finds the castle it has these strange writings on it "Be bold, be bold, as Mary goes deeper she finds more "Be bold, be bold, but not too bold", until she finds a doorway saying

Be bold, be bold, but not too bold,
Lest that your heart's blood should run cold.

Mary opens the door anyway and finds many skeletons and blood-soaked bodies of young women. Mr. Fox then comes in, dragging another woman's body while Mary barely manages to hide in time. Mr. Fox then tries to pull a ring off the woman's finger, only for it to be on too tight, so he cuts her hand, causing the ring to land in Mary's lap. Mr. Fox doesn't find though and just drags the body into the room.

Mary flees, and soon the day of the wedding arrives, with Mary and Mr. Fox having a big celebratory breakfast. Mr. Fox comments that Mary looks unwell, so she describing a strange dream she had, of her sneaking into his castle and finding the bodies. Mr. Fox tries to deny it until Mary pulls out the ring, so Mary's brothers and friends pull out swords and hack Mr. Fox to pieces.

Mitigating qualities

First, while the story is very short, it does a plot, of Mary being engaged to Mr. Fox, her investigating his castle and finding out he's a Serial Killer and exposing him.

As for Mr. Fox himself, nothing, he might've wooed Mary but he's a serial killer targeting young rich women like Mary herself, so I think Mary was fortunate to have found him out before they got married.

Heinousness

Only bad guy in the story, and he's a Serial Killer with a room full of women he's killed, with it being indicated that's it's quite a number too

Conclusion

Easy [tup] for the not so fantastic Mr. Fox

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Goku Black
#36567: Feb 4th 2024 at 12:17:47 PM

[tup]mr Fox

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
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Quite unpredictable
#36570: Feb 4th 2024 at 12:22:41 PM

[tup] Sure to Fox. Is this an adaptation of Bluebeard, since it's a fairy tale compilation?

"I don't have the power to reverse my destiny. [...] But I'm not going to turn away from my fate anymore." — Kiriya
therealjackieboy Ultimate Moral Compass from Austin, TX Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#36571: Feb 4th 2024 at 12:23:58 PM

[tup] Foxy

"No running in the halls!"
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#36575: Feb 4th 2024 at 1:45:44 PM

[tup] to Thomas. I was thinking of proposing him but the game made him too enigmatic to really count, so finding a novel that clarifies things makes him an easy qualifier [tup] Patrick and The Fox as well.

Edited by Orangutans on Feb 4th 2024 at 4:45:59 AM


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