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  • Ass Pull:
    • Where did Joseph get that tommy gun, the grenade, and the other eleven grenades he tied the first to? Answer: Who cares?
    • Practically everything that Joseph does, most notably in his final battle with Ultimate Kars. However, unlike most examples, the series gets away with it as it doesn't even bother to sugarcoat the fact Joseph defeated an otherwise Invincible Villain through sheer luck.
    • Kars suddenly getting the mask with the stone inserted without anyone knowing, just as he's about to be fried by ultraviolet rays. The anime alleviates this somewhat due to a bit of Adaptation Expansion in which Kars makes a seemingly futile leap after first landing on the spikes, giving him a more plausible opportunity to grab the mask and put the jewel in.
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  • Awesome Ego: Caesar Zeppeli. His smugness would put Joseph to shame, but damn is that cockiness justified.
  • Awesome Music: Renowned anime composer Taku Iwasaki was brought on board for the soundtrack of the anime version. Iwasaki brings about many intense battle themes and hammy character themes, but perhaps the most famous would be the theme of the Pillar Men, Awaken.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
    • Kars is either one of the more interesting and sinister villains in the series with a compelling backstory and understandable motivations, or a boring villain who was too mysterious for his own good and got overshadowed by the secondary villains of this part.
    • Caesar is well-liked by one part of the fanbase for his chemistry with Joseph and his tragic fate. While others consider him an undercooked character who doesn't actually accomplish much for all they build him up to be.
  • Big-Lipped Alligator Moment:
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    • After Wamuu released his masters Kars and Esidisi from their emprisonment, Kars accidentally steps on Wamuu's shadow. This caused the latter to instinctively attack the former. He quickly apologizes to his master and Kars does the same. That being said, stepping on Wamuu's shadow comes across as a Chekhov's Gun, but no. It's never mentioned again.
    • In the anime, while monologuing to JoJo over the unconscious Lisa Lisa, Kars... starts strumming her legs to air guitar.
  • Broken Base: The English dub for Battle Tendency was better received than Phantom Blood but still polarizing. Fans were still critical of the accents (especially Stroheim) and felt that there were better casting choices for the characters. There was also outcry over the dub changing many of this part's famous lines. Others however saw the dub as an improvement over the Phantom Blood dub with Ben Diskin fitting Joseph's playful personality and the accents being slightly stronger this time around. It is generally agreed among most viewers of the dub however that the Pillar Men all had strong English voices.
  • "Common Knowledge": There is a surprisingly high number of casual fans, and critics, that say that Jonathan was the father of Joseph. This isn't true as Part 2 clearly explains that Joseph is Jonathan's grandson. Even if you discount the Tangled Family Tree that is the Joestar lineage its still ridiculous that so many people believe this when one of the main arcs of Part 2 was the reveal of who Joseph's mother is.
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    • Kars is often depicted with purple lipstick in fan art to go with DIO's green and Diavolo's black, but the only makeup he wears in the series proper is Guyliner. A Jojonium drawing by Araki does give him lipstick, but it's orange.
  • Crack Pairing: Caesar views Lisa Lisa as a mother figure, but that doesn't keep some fans from pairing them up.
  • Crazy Awesome: Joseph himself is a rare example of this for the main character. Fans love his goofball personality and the often-borderline nonsensical levels of trickery he uses to defeat his enemies.
  • Draco in Leather Pants: The Pillar Men, especially Wamuu and Kars. The former because of his Noble Demon personality and friendly rivalry with Joseph, the latter because of his looks and for saving a dog when the series would become infamous for killing them. This is discounting the fact that Kars lacks Wamuu and Esidisi's honorable traits (best seen when he backstabs Lisa Lisa), and that Wamuu is ultimately too loyal to Kars to have a Heel–Face Turn like many fans wanted.
  • Ear Worm: The OP, Bloody Stream by CODA. Considered by many to still be the best Jojo OP thus far.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • Rudol von Stroheim is one of the most popular secondary protagonists in the entire franchise for his sheer hamminess and is often referred to as the most likeable Nazi character ever. He even got to be a playable character in Eyes of Heaven.
    • Wamuu is the most popular of the Pillar Men for being the Anti-Villain of the trio and for the sense of honor he displayed towards Joseph and Caesar. He's the only secondary antagonist in the franchise that is more popular than the main villain of his part.
  • Epileptic Trees: While it never happened and most likely never will, fans have speculated on what kind of Stand Kars could have developed and how powerful it would be compared to other high-level hero/villain stands. Some fans also speculate on the idea of whether or not Kars as the Ultimate Lifeform would be able to defeat powerful characters like Jotaro, DIO, Kira, and Pucci.
  • Even Better Sequel: Battle Tendency is often considered by fans to be one of the best parts in the entire franchise for being the point where it truly began to grow the beard. A lot of praise was given to its dynamic protagonists, villains with compelling motivations and backstories, interesting Battle of Wits fights, and being the point where the series began to embrace its own ridiculousness by becoming a self-aware epic.
  • Evil Is Cool: Almost everything about the Pillar Men reeks of this. Not only are they Aztec vampires with superpowers and lavish designs, but they even have a badass theme song to go along with them.
  • Evil Is Sexy: The Pillar Men, due to them being the most blatant examples of Stripperiffic the franchise is often known for, to the point where many have referred to them as the Aztec Gods of Fitness.
  • Fair for Its Day: Nowadays, Lisa Lisa qualifies as a Faux Action Girl, but when Battle Tendency was first printed from 1987 to 1989, most of her competitors were characterized as one-note gender roles that never had a shot at the spotlight, such as Stay in the Kitchen, Neutral Female, Ms. Fanservice, Behind Every Great Man, and Big Brother Instinct. Hirohiko Araki has stated that he based Lisa Lisa off of a neighborhood girl who gave him hell during his childhood, and that the limitations imposed by his publisher and his audience kept him from making her any more realistic.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple: While Joseph/Suzi Q is not disliked by any means, Joseph/Caesar is one of the most popular pairings in the entire franchise, especially since many fans consider them the first "BroJo'' duo.
  • Fashion-Victim Villain: The Pillar Men, who seem to emphasize wearing as little clothing as possible. Esidsi at one point had what looked like leather pads sewn onto his skin and the manga even has him Going Commando in his debut.
  • Foe Yay:
    • Joseph/Wamuu has quite a bit of subtext as the two slowly become each others Worthy Opponent over the course of the arc culminating in Joseph bidding farewell to Wamuu by giving him some of his blood to ease his passing. Wamuu's last words noting that perhaps he lived so long to meet a warrior like Joseph, taken out of context, wouldn't sound out of place in a Love Confession.
    • Joseph and the Pillar Man in general. Wamuu and Esidisi give Joseph their Wedding Rings of Death, Esidisi tries to wrap his blood vessels around Joseph to fill him with his hot bodily fluids. Hell, the dub even adds a scene between Joseph and Santana by making it sound like the former is flirting with the latter.
    • Caesar/Wamuu has a following especially since their relationship was also a rivalry of respect.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
    • Joseph pretending to have lost his hand to Santana was Played for Laughs. He ends up losing his hand to Kars in the final battle instead.
    • After Joseph gets poisoned by Wamuu and Esidisi's Wedding Rings of Death, he makes a joke about committing bigamy now that he has two wedding rings. Turns out in Diamond is Unbreakable that he had cheated on Suzie Q and unknowingly fathered an illegitimate child as a result.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: While generally ignored in Japan until the 2012 anime came out, Battle Tendency is widely loved in the West for its Crazy Awesome nature and the fact that it refuses to take itself seriously while still being genuinely dramatic at key points (i.e. Caesar's death). Joseph himself is also a massive fan-favorite in the West, often being considered one of the best protagonists in the series.
  • Growing the Beard: After the Slow-Paced Beginning of Phantom Blood, Battle Tendency is generally considered the part where the series improved greatly, with more interesting characters, creative fight scenes where the characters frequently attempt to outsmart each other, and a globe-trotting plot that ups the scale. This is also reflected in the anime, where the animation quality sees a noticeable improvement.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: For most of his life Joseph believed that his father abandoned him. Come Diamond is Unbreakable, Joseph would find out that he has a teenage son in Japan that he had unintentionally neglected for several years.
    • Adding to the above point, the scene where Suzie Q is happily rejoicing at being married to Joseph when they attended his own funeral can be considered harsher and even really awkward and cringing due to the fact that after a seemingly happy marriage, many years later, Joseph cheats on her with a younger woman and has an illegitimate son out of it. And we find out in Diamond is Unbreakable that she not only found out but is (understandably) angry at this.
  • He's Just Hiding!:
    • After Santana is defeated, the Speedwagon Foundation confirms that he is still alive, and he is never mentioned again. Which leaves some fans to believe that Santana could have potentially made a comeback in future parts. Though another common fan theory is that Joseph destroyed Santana before he left for Italy.
    • Inverted with Kars, who some thought had the potential to make a comeback if he returned to the Earth's atmosphere. Hirohiko Araki however confirmed that he wrote Kars' final fate the way he did to ensure that he'll never return.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Joseph always dreams of becoming a pilot like his father, and Araki often draws him with airship goggles. His english voice actor, Ben Diskin, voiced Numbuh 2 from Codename: Kids Next Door, who also wears airship goggles. Made even more hilarious and ironic since Numbuh 2 is an Ace Pilot, while Joseph is a Captain Crash.
    • Related to the above, Joseph also shares the same voice actor as Numbuh 1, another badass Brit.
    • The fact that Ryota Ohsaka (Mark in the Battle Tendency anime) later voiced Marco Bodt in Attack on Titan, due to the remarkable similarities between their names, backgrounds, personalities, appearance, role in the plot, and relationship with the other main characters. They even die in almost the same exact way from having the same half of their bodies eaten by a group of Humanoid Abominations, down to the identical use of Censor Shadow on their corpses.
    • During his fight with Kars, Joseph sets up a dummy with a henohenomoheji face on it as a decoy. One of the most famous roles of Kazuhiko Inoue, Kars' VA, is Kakashi in Naruto, whose namesake refers to scarecrows which in Japan are often marked with a henohenomoheji on their faces.
  • Joseph's voice actor has covered "One Jump Ahead"... a perfect fit for the Joestar Secret Technique!
  • "Holy Shit!" Quotient: This is the point where the franchise begins embracing its own absurdity. Battle Tendency is a globe trotting adventure in the spirit of Indiana Jones that involves cyborg Nazis, ancient Aztec vampires, and to top it all off the main villain tops Dio by becoming the Ultimate Lifeform.
  • Ho Yay: The source of some of the series' most infamous examples, even in context. See the main page for details.
  • Magnificent Bastard:
    • Kars is the leader of the Pillar Men, a group that seeks the Red Stone of Aja so as to become immune to the sunlight that harms them and reign as the "ultimate lifeforms." Awakening in the present day after centuries of slumber, Kars dispatches his loyal friends Wammuu and Esidisi to search for the Red Stone, and showcases his love for nature and its creatures when he murders a group of men who tried to kill a dog. Manipulating Joseph into assisting him in his quest for the stone by threatening the life of Lisa Lisa, promising to play fair only to use pragmatic tricks to win the day, Kars obtains the Red Stone of Aja, using it to become a god. Kars gives Joseph the fight of his life, as he constantly adapts to each and every thing the Hamon user throws at him, until he is finally outwitted and blasted into space only by sheer luck on Joseph's part.
    • The affable Esidisi is Kars' best friend and the second-in-command of the Pillar Men. Upon confronting Joseph when looking for the Red Stone of Aja, Esidisi quickly proves to be an expert in messing with his opponent, temporarily leaving Joseph unable to get a read on him, and leading to Esidisi nearly killing Joseph with his tactics while praising him for being a Worthy Opponent. Even when Joseph destroys Esidisi’s body, Esidisi reveals his plans went deeper after all, using his surviving brain to possess Suzi Q and mail the gemstone for Kars to pick up. He then shows his conviction to the Pillar Men’s cause by being willing to sacrifice his own life in an attempt to take out the heroes by using the possessed Suzi Q as a boiling blood bomb, earning Joseph’s respect for Esidisi’s devotion to his allies.
  • Memetic Loser: Here lies Speedwagon—he never scored.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Your next line will be: "[X]" ! Explanation 
      • [X]! ... Uh!? Explanation 
    • "SHIIIZAAAAAAAA!!!" Explanation (spoilers) 
    • The infamous anatomy description that appears for Kars when he becomes the Ultimate Being. Partly because it's reminiscent of many a bad DeviantArt Marty Stu, but especially for one stand-out entry pointing out that for Kars, "Sex: USELESS".
    • Esidisi crying: both his face and the sound he makes when crying in the Japanese dub ("HEEEEEEEEEY!") have become rather popular.
    • SEKAI ICHInote 
    • Ahh! Sto-sama is dead!/あーん!スト様が死んだ! Explanation with mild spoilers for Battle Tendency 
    • The opening Bloody Stream has become a meme in of itself. Not only is it used in many JoJoke videos, but a lot of parodies will often use that opening as a template, replacing the characters with other people.
    • AIAIAIAIAIAIAIIIIIIIIII/Pillar Man Dubstepnote 
    • SpeeeeeeeeeduwaGONNN.note 
    • I'll never forgive the Japanese!
    • Eventually, Joseph stopped thinking. Explanation (spoilers) 
  • Mis-blamed: Due to official translations' tendency for rather clumsy name changes to get around trademark issues, many fans assume the same happened with the names of the Pillar Men as well. However, in this case the My Nayme Is aspects come from the original JapaneseExamples , meaning the "changed" names are the accurate translations.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • Straizo crossed it by betraying Speedwagon and leaving him to die in order to take the mask and become a vampire himself.
    • Kars' fight against Lisa Lisa involves using a body double to defeat her via cheating despite promising to fight her fairly is seen as this at least in the eyes of Joseph, since it disrespects the wishes of his deceased allies Esidisi and Wamuu.
  • Narm:
    • Mark's Cruel and Unusual Death at the hands of the Pillar Men? Horrifying and dramatic. Caesar and Joseph's immediate reaction afterwards? Not as much.
    • Kars becoming the Ultimate Being is supposed to be a terrifying, momentous scene that signifies a Darkest Hour for our heroes. A pity, then, that Speedwagon hams it up so hard you can practically feel the honey glaze dripping off the screen. Kars' facial expression doesn't really help either.
    YouTube Commenter: Speedwagon has been waiting to go full Speedwagon for lord knows how many episodes.
    • Stroheim's English dub voice is quite hard for some fans to take seriously, partly due to Woren's poor attempt at a German accent and partly due to his cheesy delivery.
  • Narm Charm:
    • The Italian accents that appear in Battle Tendency, particularly Caesar's, are so poorly done that they wreck just about any line that they're spoken in. That being said, they are hilarious, and Caesar's VA reins in some of his accent's more exaggerated parts when the mood needs to be serious.
    • Stroheim's voice in the English dub, despite his corny delivery, is seen as this since it does befit Stroheim's character.
    • Caesar's death is played for all the melodrama it's worth, especially in the anime, where they even break out the opera music. It's still one of the most tragic scenes in the series.
    • The narrator in the English dub maintains his breathless, serious delivery in even the most ridiculous parts of Battle Tendency... which ends up making them even more ridiculous.
    "The cat stance! A fundamental element of kung fu! Caesar has never heard of kung fu!"
  • One True Threesome: Joseph/Caesar/Suzie Q is a popular OT3 within Part 2 fans.
  • Self-Fanservice: The Pillar Men get a lot of this, toning down their highly exaggerated physiques and features into more typical Hunks. Kars will get slimmed down even further into a Long-Haired Pretty Boy with feminine hips.
  • Signature Scene:
    • Joseph cross dressing to sneak into a Nazi compound. This pops up as an alternate costume in Eyes of Heaven.
    • Kars, Wammu, and Esidisi awakening from their slumber.
    • Kars saving a puppy from drunk drivers.
    • The death of Caesar and Joseph's response.
    • The Joestar Secret Technique. Both times!
    • Kars's ultimate fate of being launched into space and his mind shutting down.
  • Spiritual Adaptation: A mystery surrounding an ancient artifact, a globe trotting adventure, Nazis, and Aztec vampires? It's not called anime's answer to Indiana Jones for no reason. Especially considering Joseph's design for Part 3.
  • Superlative Dubbing: Chris Jai Alex's performance as Esidisi was widely praised.
  • Squick:
    • Esidisi's nails flipping up and extending veins as tentacles.
    • The scene of Kars transforming his arms into wings includes the thumb claws rippling under and bursting through the skin, as lovingly animated as the rest of the sequence.
  • Suspiciously Similar Song: The opening part of Welcome To The World sounds very similar to that of Owner of a Lonely Heart, also by Yes.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: The English dub removing most of Joseph's instances of saying "Oh no!" and changing the German soldiers saying "Tacos!" to "Ouchies!" Also "German science is the greatest in the world!" was changed to "German science is the FINEST in the world!"
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
    • Santana shows a lot of potential to get stronger during his fight with Joseph. He begins to slowly learn the English language and even think past some of Joseph's tactics. Although the series makes a point of him surviving his fight with Joseph and Stroheim, he never appears again.
    • Despite his prominence in the anime opening, Caesar Zeppeli appears for less than half of the story, being introduced after the Santana fight and dying before the chariot race. He is only victorious when he helped Joseph defeat Esidisi after the latter was already reduced to a brain and spinal cord and his Heroic Sacrifice is rendered almost null when Joseph refuses to take the antidote until he defeats Wamuu. Araki himself may have felt the relationship between Joseph and Caesar had untapped potential, which is why Steel Ball Run has the Joestar/Zeppeli bond front-and-center.
    • Due to Executive Meddling, Lisa Lisa suffers from this during the final arc. Despite being a Hamon master and thus being more experienced than Joseph and Caesar combined, has only two rather short fight scenes, one against a one-shot vampire and Kars where she is defeated easily, and then spends the rest of the final battle unconscious. Her past and being Joseph's mother was revealed by other characters. Even if she survives the events of Battle Tendency, not much else of her is revealed aside of remarrying, implying that she lived a normal life. Worse yet is that Joseph actually mentions her in part 3 when he tells Jotaro that Dio is back, implying that she might still be alive, yet the manga never lets her appear again after part 2.
  • Too Cool to Live: Caesar. He's a way more accomplished user of the Ripple than Joseph and just oozes style. So of course he has to die before the final act.
  • Values Dissonance: The fact that Stroheim is an unrepentant Nazi, has done some horrific things in-universe (though he's at least portrayed as A Lighter Shade of Black), and is still on the side of the heroes makes a lot of his scenes come across as awkward today, especially among Western audiences. At the time, Japan's alliance with Germany in World War II was still a relatively recent memory, and the Nazis, while their crimes were known, weren't as looked back on as negatively as they were and are elsewhere. Could be considered Deliberate Values Dissonance, since the story is set in 1938, before World War II started and the true extent of how evil the Nazis were became widely known.
  • Vindicated by History: Battle Tendency didn't really get much attention in Japan when it was first serialized, as the franchise had yet to achieve widespread popularity. However, the 2012 anime caused the popularity of this part to skyrocket, and it's often considered the best part by many fans. In fact, many fans who got into the franchise through the anime believe that Battle Tendency is the best part that has been adapted into animation so far.
  • Woolseyism:
    • The English dub changes Joseph's taunts toward Santana from untranslatable Japanese wordplay to pretending that Santana is a model. Considering the Pillar Men's reputation in the fandom for looking like strippers, it makes perfect sense.
    Joseph: Oh, I get it. You're one of those strong, silent types, right? Ever thought about modelling? You've got a nice look there!
    • During the final battle between Joseph and Kars, Joseph does his "The next thing you'll say is:" gimmick as a way to prove he is winning the fight. In the original Japanese version, Kars just ends up starting to say the line before being hit by rocks, at which point he says the line fully. In the dub, Kars actually subverts it by asking him how he always knows before scalding rocks launch him even higher, followed by him actually saying what Joseph predicted. This change was well received since it reinforces Joseph's internal line about actually just making it up, since it means Kars fell for it. Fans have also semi-jokingly interpreted this scene as the universe punishing him for saying the wrong line.
  • WTH, Casting Agency?: Fans were not fond of the dub's decision to give Stroheim an Arnold Schwarzenegger-like accent instead of having an overly hammy English voice actor much like the Japanese version.
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