Old Complete Monster cleanup thread
Welcome to the Complete Monster proposal thread! This is the thread where new Complete Monster examples are vetted, approved, and written up. If you're looking for the general cleanup thread (for cuts, rewrites, expansions, and the like), please go here
Important: Before suggesting any new examples, please read the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List; if you have any questions, the odds are high they are answered there. Additionally, please check here for the earliest date a work can be discussed (usually two weeks from the U.S. release date) and whether the work has already been reserved by another user.
Here is how the process works:
- If you have a candidate to propose, you can simply come right in and propose them! If the character's run is brief, such as a single issue of a comic book, then a simple summary of their actions and any potential redeeming qualities will be enough; for longer-running candidates, an effortpost (EP) might be helpful for organizing the proposal. An EP is not outright required, but please be mindful that if a post becomes too clunky and unorganized, it can be very hard for other people to follow.
- After the proposal, there will be a 72-hour discussion and voting period, where people may ask questions and vote on the candidate. The number of upvotes must outnumber the downvotes by at least five for the character to be considered "approved".
- Three days after the proposal has been made, if the character has been approved, you may post the writeup (the text to be posted on the trope page itself) on the thread and send it to the drafts page. Your candidate will soon be added to the CM subpage. If the work has a page, you should add your candidate to the relevant YMMV page. Voila! It's that simple!
Outside of this process, we do have a few ground rules:
- To keep the thread moving at a reasonable pace, there are some restrictions on when a proposal can be made. There should only be a maximum of four EPs posted both per page and per hour to ensure that nothing gets lost in the shuffle; additionally, each individual troper should only be proposing or writing up characters from a maximum of three works at a time (from initial proposals to end of their voting period). If your proposal would fall outside of either of these guidelines, we'd like to ask you to please wait until they would fit within; feel free to type them up on an outside document, and then when the time comes, you can just copy, paste, and post!
- No plagiarism of any kind. This is a very serious matter site-wide, as the website could get in actual legal trouble over this; as a result, this can very quickly lead to mod intervention. This can take many different forms:
- Direct plagiarism, i.e. wholesale copying. This is not only the easiest to find, but is also the most likely to warrant quick moderator intervention. To be clear, quoting in some places is perfectly acceptable, but it has to be very clear you're quoting from something else and it cannot be anything longer than a sentence or two - if you're quoting an entire work summary from Wikipedia, no one is going to believe you've actually consumed the work, so even if you cite your source, your candidate will be downvoted anyway.
- Self-plagiarism. Even if you can prove that you wrote the same text in both places, the site itself can't contain any of the duplicated text. If you already wrote something once before, it's not too hard to write it a second time.
- Using another site's work as a template for a proposal. Just because you don't copy and paste something directly doesn't mean it's any harder to detect if you're basing parts or all of your proposal on text someone else wrote. To be clear, this doesn't violate site rules and won't lead to mod intervention, but just like if you directly plagiarize, no one will believe you've consumed the work if you're clearly basing your proposal on something else. This thread largely operates on the honor system, and tweaking someone else's work to pass it off as your own is one of the fastest ways to lose trust.
- Votes must be for specific candidates, meaning no blanket voting (i.e. "yes to everyone I missed").
- If you are the first person to downvote a candidate, please provide an explanation of why when you do so. We're here for discussions above all, and a hit-and-run downvote doesn't facilitate anything.
- If a work is already reserved by another user, please don't comment on the work or any potential characters worth discussion before the discussion date. We know how exciting it is when a work has a keeper that you're waiting to talk about, but it's not fair to the person who reserved the work who is just as excited to lead the discussion to see the discussion getting spoiled before they get to do it. On the other hand, if the reservation only has one name attached, shoot them a PM - they may be down for a collaboration, which will get you in on the fun as well!
- Please keep the thread on-topic. While discussing the trope is fun and we encourage people to enjoy it, questions like "who's your favorite CM" are off-topic and can lead to thumps. That's the kind of question to take to people's PMs if they're willing. Similarly, while we encourage friendliness and familiarity with other users, posts should always have some kind of thread-relevant purpose; for instance, if you want to wish someone a happy birthday, feel free to, but if it's the only thing in the post, it's off-topic and needs something else alongside it. Again, though, while we strive for a friendly atmosphere, this is not Facebook; life updates are fun, but unless they have some kind of impact on your thread participation, please do not bring it here - we have Yack Fest for that.
- Please refrain from asking anything along the lines of "How Did We Miss This One?" In almost every case, the answer is simply "No one thought about it before". This Is a Wiki where everyone has different interests, and the fact that people missed a particular candidate, even one that seems like a textbook example of a trope or a character who is particularly iconic in pop culture, means absolutely nothing. The question is disruptive, has a simple and consistent answer, and provides nothing to any discussion.
- If you are suspended from parts of the website, it is still possible to participate!
- For users who are suspended from editing the wiki, you still have full access to this thread. You can propose candidates and write them up with no issues whatsoever; while you will have to ask someone else to post the entry to the relevant pages once it is done, all write-ups are considered thread-approved - as in, done by consensus - and thus doing so does not violate any rules regarding meatpuppeting.
- If you are suspended from the forums, your participation is limited but not impossible. It is still possible for a forum-suspended user to assist in creating the write-up for a character who has already been approved; as previously mentioned, write-ups are inherently considered a consensus-based edit and thus not tied to any one particular user. However, you can not assist in the proposal of a character; as a proposal is based around the forum rather than the wiki, doing so with a forum suspension qualifies as meatpuppeting.
- Please keep all discussions "in-house".
- What other wikis use for CM equivalents is irrelevant here.
- Please be wary of using other wikis, Fandom or otherwise, as sources of information. They are just as fallible as a site like Wikipedia in regards to accuracy because they can be edited by any user, just as this site can.
- Do not attempt to force a communication with an author in an attempt to gather evidence or settle a debate; besides the fact that this is a YMMV trope and thus author intent has variable weight depending on the circumstance, doing so may cross the line into drama exportation, which is prohibited site-wide.
If you would like to use an EP for your candidate, here's the general format. This format does not have to be followed exactly, but these are the main topics that need to be covered:
What is the work?
This is a brief summary of the work you're going to discuss. We don't need a full plot summary here, just however much we need to understand going into the discussion — it can even be as simple as quoting the summary on the work's page.
Who is the candidate and what have they done?
This is essentially the character's biography — who they are, their story, the crimes they commit, and, preferably (though not required), what happens to the candidate at the end. It does not have to include every single thing they ever do — for some villains, we'd be here all day if that was the case — but it should include the highlights of their journey.
Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?
This is where any potential redeeming characteristics or tragic backstory should be discussed. Do they have a tragic past? Do they show that Even Evil Has Standards or Even Evil Has Loved Ones? Maybe a Pet the Dog moment or two? This is where these should be discussed in full. Not every potential redeeming moment is a clear-cut disqualifier, but we should hear of any potential issues to ensure the character is discussed in full.
Are they bad enough?
A Complete Monster has to be particularly vile by the standard of the work they appear in. Therefore, you should look at what the character does compared to similar characters in the same work. This takes into account things like:
- Their resource level (a human Serial Killer can't stand up to an alien Omnicidal Maniac, but they can be bad by the standard of other human serial killers)
- The amount of time they have to work with (such as a one-shot character versus long-running antagonists)
- The quantity vs. quality of their crimes compared to others (someone with a lower victim count but far more visceral and personal crimes could be considered as equally bad overall as someone with a higher body count but less horror involved)
Essentially, this section is an analysis of the kinds of villainy shown in the work and an explanation of why this particular character's villainy stands out within it.
Final verdict?
This is where you post your final conclusion on the character in question. You can continue elaborating on your reasons or even just say a simple "yes" or "no"; at this point, we've heard everything we need to hear.
IMPORTANT NOTICE: This thread tackles very serious and dark matters on a daily basis. We will be discussing things like murder, rape, torture, human trafficking, crimes against children, and in particularly dark cases, several of these issues at the same time. We keep a lighthearted air, but all candidates carry the general assumption that these are awful individuals committing disgusting crimes. We ask that if you participate, you do so with the requisite seriousness such dark topics require; exclamations of how gross something is, whether serious or sarcastic, are disrespectful to the topics at hand, and if you cannot handle such topics, please do not participate.
And that's everything you need to know. Welcome to the thread!
Edited by Twiddler on Jan 17th 2024 at 5:42:49 AM
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BTW, I looked it up. I think it's Blackwell.
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
What is the Work?
"The TodHunter Moon Chronicles" is the sequel trilogy to the Septimus Heap series (the trilogy does not have its own trope page). The series is set in a world (revealed at the end of the seventh Septimus Heap book to be Earth thousands of years in the future) filled with wizards and Magykal (yes, that's how it is spelled and emphasized) creatures, primarily set around a city-state called the Castle, in which wizards study in a tower under the ExtraOrdinary Wizard. In the original heptalogy, the Heap family of wizards adopts baby Princess Jenna after her mother the queen and the ExtraOrdinary Wizard are killed by the Custodians who have allied themselves with the Darke wizard DomDaniel, on the same night that the Heaps' seventh son Septimus is falsely pronounced dead and taken by the midwife. Long story short, DomDaniel wanted Septimus so that he could take advantage of the innate power of the Seventh Son of the Seventh Son, but the midwife's own son was mistakenly taken to be the Darke wizard's apprentice while Septimus was raised in a Child Soldier unit. Septimus is reunited with his birth family by sheer luck and after DomDaniel is defeated and the Castle is retaken from the Custodians, his identity is discovered and he is taken on as the apprentice to the current ExtraOrdinary Wizard Marcia Overstrand.
Seven years after the end of the original series, the focus shifts to Alice TodHunter Moon, Tod for short, a young resident of a village of PathFinders, whose ancestors traveled to space, and were subjected to Fantastic Racism when they returned to Earth thousands of years later. When she is twelve years old, Tod learns the history of her people, and is thrust into adventure when nearly everyone in her village is kidnapped by an ambitious sorcerer and she flees to the Castle. After helping to rescue her people, Tod becomes the ExtraOrdinary Apprentice to Septimus Heap, who is now the ExtraOrdinary Wizard.
Who is Aunt Mitza?
Tod's aunt Mitza Draddenmora Draa is a treacherous woman who has no love for her family or anyone, not understanding friendship in the slightest. She envied her stepsister Cassandra for marrying Dan Moon, the only human being whom Mitza ever loved, so she sent Cassi a letter filled with sand flies, causing her to die from a long illness.
Allying herself with the warlord Oraton-Marr, she visited the Moons at the PathFinder village so that she could eavesdrop on the MidSummer Circle, where Dan told the village's children about how their ancestors went to space in an attempt to colonize a new planet and developed a means to survive the forces by developing gills on their noses so that they could fill the ship with water and survive in the fluid (just go with it), but that not everyone in the current generation had these gills and they wouldn't know if they did until they breathe in water and activate the gills. She reported back to Oraton-Marr, then lured Dan into a trap to have him abducted. Mitza then led a pack of Garmin to attack the village and kidnap the villagers, staying in the Moon house and lighting candles as a beacon to ensure that the Garmin abduct Tod. When Tod escapes with her friend Oskar Sarn and they flee to the Castle, Mitza sends Garmin to track her down. One does capture Tod, compressing her in a coccoon, but Tod's aunt Dandra Draa saves her and Marcia Overstrand frees her.
Mitza appears again in the Lady's chamber (the Lady being Oraton-Marr's sister and second-in-command), her impatient nastiness giving way to a conciliatory and sycophantic wheedle as she speaks with her superior. She questions the wisdom of sending all of the Path Finder prisoners when Oraton-Marr had only asked for twenty, as any who drown before they determine and make use of the ones who can breathe underwater would not be usable as slaves any further, but the Lady declares that they will send the Garmin to hunt more settlements if that is the case. Mitza then warns against the deployment of Garmin at that time as they would be seen in the moonlight. After a confrontation with Tod, the Sarns, and Lucy Heap in the cellblock, the Lady orders Mitza to send the Garmin to pursue the escapees and attack the Castle.
After they were driven out of the Eastern SnowPlains, but not without retrieving the Orm Egg, Mitza traveled with Oraton-Marr and the Lady to a desert where they set to incubating the egg until it was ready to hatch. They kidnapped an Apothecary's daughter to blackmail her and her son into letting them use their tent as a hideout and assisting them. When the egg was close to hatching, Mitza brought the Apothecary's daughter back, preparing under Oraton-Marr's orders to drown the baby if anyone was allowed to interfere with the sorcerer's intention to have the newborn Orm Imprint on him. Fortunately, when Tod and Oskar interfered with Oraton-Marr's efforts, the Apothecary rescued her daughter while Mitza was distracted. After the villains were driven out, Mitza doubled back to confront her niece, taunting her over Cassi's death before leaving.
Mitza flees with Oraton-Marr, who has fallen ill due to the Apothecary's concoction, and the Lady to the palace of their ally the Red Queen. The Red Queen demanded the sorcerer's presence, but when he was shown to be too ill to respond to her demands, she had the three thrown in the dungeon. Seeing that she had nothing left to gain from her alliance with the sorcerer and his sister, Mitza turns her attention to resuming her revenge against Cassi's family by targeting Tod. She claims to the Red Queen that she will be able to get her the key to the Castle and convinces her to provide the gold that she would need to get what she wants for her scheme. Locating a sorcerer in the city, she purchases an Incantation for a Hawk and tokens to acquire HoodWinks and a vial of sand flies from the Gremelzin (a lizard-like black market dealer). She purchases the items and leaves, unaware of the Maund (an invisible, parasitic creature that squats on the shoulders of its host and gradually grows heavier) latching onto her. She enchants the Hawk and sends it to bring the witch Marissa to the Moat in the Castle, then brings the Red Queen to the Castle using a copy of Marissa's Castle key while both wear the HoodWinks to conceal their identities as they enter, both to appease the tyrant and in hopes that she would cause chaos and "lop off a few Castle heads" while she seeks to kill Tod.
Her scheme with the Queen is disrupted when Marissa uses a snake tongue to BeWitch and confuse them, making Mitza believe that she was the Red Queen's fool before locking them in the throne room. She hid in the Palace attic while she waited for a chance to confront her niece. When they did cross paths, Mitza claimed that her insinuation that she had murdered Tod's mother was false and due to a supposed enslavement to Oraton-Marr, and that she wanted to make amends. She offered the vial of sand flies, claiming that it was perfume that she had stolen from Tod's house. Tod takes it, but thankfully the free-flying Ormlet snatches it out of her grasp. Mitza chases after the vial, and Tod realizes what had very nearly happened. As Mitza chases it, she falls into the Moat, the weight of the Maund causing her to sink to the bottom, and drowns.
In the epilogue, Mitza's ghost remains in the Moat for a year and a day, regularly frightening paddleboat hirers. After she was free to move about again, she meets the ghost of Jillie Djinn and they develop a bond while talking about Maunds.
Heinousness Standard?
While she does not have the same sort of rap sheet as DomDaniel and other Big Bads, they are mostly defined by hunger for power while Mitza stands out with her targeted cruelty. She had nearly the entire Path Finder village kidnapped for slavery and did everything she could to ensure that Tod was taken, and the way Cassi's illness was described as long indicates that the means of her murder was slow and unpleasant, and Mitza tries to do the same to Tod out of spite. In that regard, I would say that she goes beyond the standard villain fare in this series, even ahead of her boss Oraton-Marr (looking back, the Lady might be up there as well). I think the only villain to surpass her in monstrousness is Queen Etheldredda from the parent series. (Possibly also the Wizards of the Two-Faced Ring, but they came off more like Generic Doomsday Villains.) So I say that Mitza easily clears the bar, even as a non-Magykal lackey compared to evil wizards and tyrants.
Mitigating Factors?
Her only apparent redeeming quality is that she at least claimed to love Dan Moon, although this did not stop her from causing him pain by killing his wife, and she also did not seem to care about selling him out to Oraton-Marr to be enslaved and potentially killed, personally kidnapping him and gloating that she would target Tod next just to spite Cassi's memory, so it seems like it may have been a shallow attraction and she never truly cared about him, or at least she doesn't anymore. Plus, it was only mentioned in relation to her hatred for Cassi. So ultimately, I would say she has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. (That is another point that makes her stand out from her partners, as at least Oraton-Marr and the Lady care about each other and the Lady admires Ferdie Sarn.)
Verdict?
I would say absolutely.
Edited by WilyGryphon on Oct 29th 2023 at 9:30:05 AM
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Mitza
Yes to Mitza, Blackwall, Sonehara, Chorazos, Droom, and Lara.
Here is my Addictem write-up.
- C.O.P.S. (1988): From the episode, The Lowest Crime, Addictem is a drug lord flooding Empire City with a new drug called Crystal Twysts. Addictem creates 200 Crystal Twyst addicts within a week, with many of them ending up hospitalized or in mental institutions, Crystal Twysts are also deadly in large doses. Addictem offers to become partners with Empire City's main crime lord, Big Boss. Big Boss is disgusted by Addictem's business practices and has him thrown out of his office. Addictem has no limits regarding who he sells his drugs to, willing to sell them to 2 pre-teen girls.
Edited by Overlord on Oct 28th 2023 at 10:08:59 AM
Frolaytia X Qwenthur of Heavy Object
It seems we will having our first Shadowgate candidate and the non-canon status of Beyond Shadowgate for the Turbografx CD ensures he does not need to compete with anything released afterwards.
Now, let's describe the first released game to be titled Beyond Shadowgate using the description I've written for the trope page I have done for this game.
Generations after the events of the original Shadowgate, Prince Erik returns to the kingdom where Belezaar has him falsely accused of Patricide and scheduled for execution in the morning. However, Erik manages to escape and must clear save the world from the Warlock Lord like his ancestor did before.This game has since been ignored by future works such as Shadowgate 64 and a teaser feature featured in a remake of the first game.
Who is Belezaar
Belezaar is firt mentioned when he sends Prince Erik a letter to summon him after he turned 18 with grim news about his father's place. As the prince returns to his sister's side, when Belezaar has two guards arrest him on the false charge of murdering his father.However, his sister was suspicious of Belezaar and gave Erik a match to ignite a fire and strike down the guard to take the key to the cell and learns of the greater threat that loomed from Shadowgate. Afterwards, Erik hears about the kingdom being terrorized from a priestess. A beast he hired to guard the bridge was noted to be killing people, but it ends up getting tired of killing, but still does not let him pass.
At a river near the edge of town, Erik learns about Belezaar taking a distraught Elizabeth with her from a man who feels uneasy about the advisor. A couple people also explain that they know Eric killing his own father was a lie and sent evil henchmen around and people were afraid of him.
Erik then arrived at another town to find it being put to the slaughter, which I believe was Belazaar's work, as civilians flee for their lives, forcing the prince to take the attacket down and save a child who could not flee (and could burn to death if not saved). He also finds another raider who kidnapped a family and chased it down where he found a critically injured man as he takes down another one of the raiders. Afterwards, he comes across a dead man and some crying civilians whom he sets free. A man speaking a foreign language explains that the demons who attacked would have killed them all had he not arrived.
He then is given an instrument to summon fairies. He is informed by the ghost of his father that Belazaar took Elizabeth to carry out plans of his own that will eventually bring her to harm. Eric learns from an old chancellor about turning the peaceful and kind land into a fearful place. Eric then continues his travels in order to save his sister from the danger she is in.
Erik then travels through Shadowgate and fought off a monster and solved puzzles that stood between him and his quest to stop Belezaar and save his sister. After taking one item only when the reaper takes him for a ride, he gets incapacitated by Belazaar who binds him, so he does not interfere with what the traitorous advisor planned for mankind.
As Erik asked why Belazaar did this, the latter revealed he was never really a man and really a half-man half-snake creature. Belazaar then reveals he intends to sacrifice Elizabeth as part of his plan to bring back the Warlock Lord and subject mankind to a "magnitude of slaughter".
Belazaar then summons the Warlock Lord who now is an Eldritch Abomination that resembles a snake with some exposed organs. As Belazaar is offering Elizabeth as a sacrifice, the Warlock Lord kills him first. The prince's father as a ghost frees his son so he can stop the Warlock Lord and save both his sister and the world.
Mitigating Factors
Now, any loyalty he had to King Aronde, it had been a lie as he murdered him before lying about Erik being responsible and was unsated with everything a man can have. The people of the country also were afraid of him after the murder. Any care he could have had for the beast he had guard a bridge, I do not recall it being dwelled upon. When he captures the prince, he does not express anger at him for killing his cronies.Belezaar did reveal he was never really a man, but the game never goes into the nature of his creation so we can safely say he has agency. While he did say he intends to bring the world to its "rightful reptilian masters", he seems only in it for the bloodshed it will soak mankind in. He also seemed only interested in ruling the world with the aid of the Warlock Lord, but when the entity turned on him, he tried to plead for mercy before earning his well-deserved death.
Anytime Belazaar appeared, he had no actual comedy to detract from his villainy.
Heinous Standard
As this was a non-canon game released before Shadowgate 64, we only need to take the original Shadowgate into account. In the first Shadowgate, we were told that the Warlock Lord would unleash the Behemoth from the Dark Depths and use it to "Destroy us all!!". Cannot say he did much else there and had nothing going in personality aside from being said to be screaming when the Behemoth drags him down upon defeat. As for this non-canon outing, he became an Eldritch Abomination like the behemoth he summoned in the first game and took sadistic glee in how he intends to kill both siblings and rain destruction on the world so he can start the age of the Warlock Lord with Erik in a bad ending positing that the Warlock Lord could be a threat to the universe thanks to his power. However, the ending with the paddleball may be an issue for this incarnation of the Warlock Lord counting.Now, let's take a look at deeds done by Belazaar but not by the Warlock Lord in his first appearance. BTW, even when Belazaar was revealed to be a snake man, he did not appear as powerful as the Warlock Lord has become here.
- Belezaar holds some personal cruelty such as murdering Erik's father and trying to have his kid sister sacrificed to the Warlock Lord in front of her brother.
- Then we have the dungeon where we see a few things that happened such as a goon having a man tortured, a couple dead men whose deaths occurred in the dungeon which the game takes note of, and later a shapeshifting prisoner Erik freed explained that she would have died if he did not help her escape. Then Belezaar hired a beast to kill people that try to cross a bridge until it tired out from doing so which Belezaar was not shown to approve of.
- Belazaar also was hinted to be behind the slaughter of a village since it was said he sent his cronies around to terrorize the country, the elderly chancellor explained that Belezaar turned the kingdom into a fearful place, the human soldiers being sent to kill the creatures that Belazaar sicced on the land, and the siblings working hard to fix the damage the deceased advisor caused. This atrocity was shown onscreen as the village was on fire and it had been spelt out everyone would have been killed if the prince did not come.
- Belazaar was also excited to bring forth a "magnitude of slaughter" to the human race once he brings back the Warlock Lord.
Verdict
May lean yes.Edited by MasterJoseph on Oct 29th 2023 at 2:04:09 AM
IPP Wick Check created.
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Alright so, a bit new to this whole thing but, I am looking to reserve the Fnaf Movie for future discussion, am I allowed to do that or is it too early? And if not, has anyone else reserved it? Cause if not, would everyone be okay with me doing it?
My mere presence makes everyone's day worse.
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It was already reserved by Austin and Snoke.
You can check reservation dates at Complete Monster Discussion Dates
Sure to Belezaar and Mitza
Edited by Snowy66 on Oct 29th 2023 at 3:18:35 AM
Harbinger of Cringe
Ah ok, thanks for the info!
Behemoth, Blackwall, Sonehara, Chorazo, Droom Doom, Lara, Aunt Mitz, Belazar
I guess this is obscure video game villainesses week here...
Wild Blood, a Hack and Slash game with a format ripping off the early Dark Souls entries, but with an Arthurian Legends setting.
Set in Albion, the once-noble King Arthur had gone insane after uncovering the affair between the Round Table's greatest knight, the Player Character Lancelot, and Queen Guinevere. Consumed by grief and despair, the enraged King Arthur immediately seeks his loyal handmaiden and court sorceress, Morgana, allowing her to use her dark magic against Lancelot.
Morgana? You mean, Morgan Le Fay from the myths?
Yes, that Morgana.
Morgana Le Fay is re-imagined as a power-hungry sorceress who wants to rule over Albion by herself; the moment Arthur seeks her help, immediately took control of King Arthur and Excalibur, and with Excalibur's magic, opened the Hellgates to the other side, allowing her legions of demons into the world.
Right off the first level, Sir Lancelot returns to Albion from a quest, only to discover the countryside in ruins and overrun by monsters, and as he fights his way through all kinds of monsters he confronts Morgana, who had assumed the form of a dragon at the stage's end; turns out it's a case of You Can't Thwart Stage One where after "winning" the battle Lancelot is automatically overpowered by Morgana in the following cutscene. Dragon!Morgana taunts Lancelot "Now the kingdom is mine... you cannot stop me!" but the arrival of Lancelot's ally, Sir Gawain, who fires an enchanted electrified arrow into Morgana's face drives her off.
After saving Lancelot, Gawain informs him what his affair with Guinevere had incurred. A guilty Lancelot decides to atone for his actions, fighting all kinds of enemies along the way, while rescuing caged civilians in numerous ruined villages Morgana's forces laid waste to; Lancelot later made his way to the Hanging Gardens, a magical Floating Continent infested with Morgana's gargoyles where she had imprisoned Merlin, leading to a boss fight against a gigantic Valkyrie-like Angel who turns out to be the Hanging Garden's once-peaceful guardian, cursed by Morgana's spells; Lancelot release the Angel from Morgana, and later Merlin, who tells Lancelot to seek the "Book of Shadows" inside Castle Camelot's inner sanctum to close Morgana's Hellgate.
Inside Castle Camelot, Lancelot faces King Arthur in a Throne Room Throwdown, who is now a Black Knight / Tin Tyrant wielding Excalibur to assault Lancelot. Defeating Arthur and its revealed he was under Morgana's spell, in a state of And I Must Scream where he's forced to attack any members of the Round Table Knights, his former allies, trying to help him... Lancelot breaks Morgana's curse with some help from Merlin, releasing King Arthur, who eventually bestows Excalibur to Lancelot. Who then proceeds to release entire towns and populations besieged by Morgana's monsters, until he eventually needs to confront Morgana, who's holding Guinevere as hostage.
When trying to save Guinevere, turns out Morgana had cursed Guinevere with the same spell she used on Arthur and the Angel Guardian, where Lancelot tries to embrace her only for Guineverre to transform into a winged, Valkyrie-like being and attack Lancelot as a boss; defeating possessed Guinevere in a Fighting Your Friend moment, Merlin arrives and casts a counter-spell on the weakened Guinevere... Lancelot eventually crosses the portal leading to the Hellgate to face Morgana, knowing he'll likely never return even if he won; he fights Morgana's dragon form again, who's expectedly stronger than her first encounter, this time with upgraded Experience Points, Gawain's magic bow, Excalibur and other power-ups, Lancelot eventually defeats Morgana. A reformed King Arthur then appears, saying he'll complete the Hellgate sealing ritual instead, and so gives his life, throne, Excalibur and Guinevere to Lancelot.
- Arthur: Tell Guinevere that I'm sorry! That I loved her, and I did it all her her... farewell, Lancelot!
The game ends with Lancelot and his queen, Guinevere, overlooking a now-peaceful Albion.
Mitigating Factors?
Nope, an Evil Sorceress whose "loyalty" is faked, who's waiting for her liege, King Arthur, to seek her help. Once she got the chance, all hell breaks loose and Albion falls under legions of monsters... the moment she's defeated and the Hellgate sealed, all is peaceful again.
Heinousness Standard?
Morgana really doesn't have a competition here, since the demons and monsters terrorizing the entire nation that Lancelot spends the whole game slaying are her summons. And there's plenty of onscreen impact - several ruined cities, civilians trapped in cages and dungeons (a frequent NPC banter you'll hear; whenever Lancelot approaches trapped captives, they'll beg "Please don't let these demons eat me!"), the named bosses being Lancelot's former allies cursed by Morgana, and whatnot.
Should we count Morgana Le Fay, then?
Hardly the first version of the character. And definitely not the last
Edited by RobertTYL on Oct 29th 2023 at 9:52:37 PM
Goku Black
Morgana
Not the Eye
to Belezaar and Morgana
For Mitza, what exacly is nature of her bond with Jillie’s ghost?
Edited by EmperorGeode on Oct 29th 2023 at 4:21:09 AM
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Belezaar and Morgana
Edited by Atlantis1930 on Oct 29th 2023 at 12:40:23 PM
to Mitza Draddenmora Draa, Belazar and Morgana Le Fay.
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Okay, a few things for Mitza:
- Even if her motivation is different, and she's worse then many villains in the series, the fact she doesn't have the same sort of rap sheet as some of the big bads gives me pause.
- More importantly, could you please break it up into more paragraphs? Especially those two big ones in the who is she section.
Yes to Belezaar, but this assumes he was behind the slaughter of the village. Do we know this for sure?
Sure to Morgana as well. Seems to barely be above baseline, but enough above.
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x5 That's all that was said in the book, that they struck up a conversation about Maunds and became inseparable. Considering how she noticed that the Lady started to see her as a friend and her only thought, not understanding what a friend was, was to how much influence she could develop over events, I suppose the nature of her bond with Jillie (who, for context, was also an unpleasant but not malicious person in life) is up to interpretation.
Sure
Edited by WilyGryphon on Oct 29th 2023 at 9:28:25 AM
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Okay, having read the EP...I can't really see what makes Mitzi's crimes so heinous. Could you please summarize them? All I'm getting is...she kills some people.
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She murdered her stepsister out of envy (the means by which she did so putting Cassi in a lengthy, deadly illness), sold an entire village to slavery for a task that she knows full well that many won't survive, personally kidnapped her brother-in-law and directed the Garmin to hunt down her twelve-year-old niece to spite Cassi's memory, was willing to drown a baby if the baby's mother didn't help her and her partners or if anything went wrong in Oraton-Marr's scheme, tries to kill Tod in the same way that she killed Cassi (again, to spite her stepsister's memory), and is prepared to lead the Red Queen to the Castle and let her kill people in an attempted takeover (while the deal was initially made out of pragmatism, she adapts her plans around it and, reasoning it as revenge on the Castle for taking Tod in, is content with letting her cut off some heads).
While Oraton-Marr was in charge, she shares many of his crimes in her direct involvement in human trafficking and threatening the life of an infant, while adding her own crimes of murder, attempted murder, and scheming to cause unnecessary deaths.
It is also worth noting that, while the books like to keep the tone lighthearted with some silly moments, Tod's trauma relating to Mitza is treated seriously, with her fearing that her aunt will forever haunt any memory she has of her mother and that she will continue to try to hurt her for as long as they live.
Edited by WilyGryphon on Oct 29th 2023 at 10:45:22 AM
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I'll give a very week yes then.
Any reason Oraton-Marr or DomDaniel don't count?
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Acw, can you stop doing that? You’ve been told again and again about the “but what about…” if someone else counts they’ll be posted.
Edited by Lightysnake on Oct 29th 2023 at 8:23:07 AM
Not the Eye
Lean to Mitza
It's been too long since I read the books, so I'm not quite sure about DomDaniel. As for Oraton-Marr, he and his sister seem to care about each other (mostly expressed by the Lady, but he has her as his second-in-command and the most antagonism we get from him is light sibling rivalry in relation to him being shorter than her), plus he was going to keep his word and spare the Apothecary's daughter if his plan had succeeded.
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- The Twilight Zone
- Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet's "Altar of The Visitor From Afar" (aka "Altar of a Rare Beauty") OVA: Aleria is Linaria's vicious eldest sister who persecutes Linaria on the basis of her religion to claim their father's fleet the latter inherited. Having her other sisters hunt down Linaria, Aleria orders them to massacre all onboard the freighter carrying Linaria, who wound up being the Sole Survivor. Luring the Hideauze forces with a series of seabed mines, Aleria tries to use the mass death to take Kugel's fleet, and upon learning of Linaria's death, smirks and swiftly tries to take command of her dead sister's forces.
- Jinki:Extend: Kalis/Karis Nohman/Norman is a monstrous misogynist in both versions:
- Anime: Kalis Nohman introduces himself disguised as the young Satsuki Kawamoto's older brother, using the chance to get close to Satsuki where he brutalizes and rapes her. Confronted by the Angel team, Kalis tries to flee while keeping Satsuki as his Sex Slave, fondling her throughout the fight and ultimately leaving the girl scarred long after he is dealt with.
- Manga: Kalis Nohman is employed by Shiva for the purpose of breaking Angel pilots, and basks in the chance to rape one into a mental breakdown. When his victim refuses to scream as he defiles her, Kalis flies into a rage and begins cutting her with his scythe, attempting to kill the rest of the Angel team when they interfere. Reappearing to attempt to assault Satsuki Kawamoto, when repelled Kalis returns once more, trying to use his craft to subject the entire female cast to his violation.
- "Closing the Net": Peter Williams masquerades as a reformed pedophile while secretly running a horrific online child pornography site called Sunshine in Our Lives, where child rape is broadcast every day to over a hundred depraved members. After the police began to investigate, Williams sold out one of the websites members while doing everything in his power to keep the website up and running and assisted in the kidnapping of a ten-year-old boy, promising that the child would be raped on camera for the ring's entertainment. After his arrest, Williams taunted the police at every opportunity, telling them that there was nothing they could do to prevent it.
- Crashing, written by Matthew Klein:
- Gordian is a supervillain and businessman whose façade as a polite patient of Dr. Rose Osler hides a ruthless mastermind. Personally funding Don's crusade on inhibiting the rights of powered people, Gordian engages in a brutal battle with Rex Glassman, killing dozens in the Senate house to ensure the bill gets passed so he can set up a Black Market for the desperate powered people]], including dangerous experimental vitamins and a task force to kill any of his enemies. When Rose attempts to refuse to help Gordian more than their deal required, Gordian sends Herakles to kidnap her, resulting in the deaths of several innocents and causing Rose to fall Off the Wagon, and claiming the life of the teenage Piper. In order to have her back as his doctor, Gordian kidnaps Rose's husband Don to make him his business partner when he runs for office, and when the final battle against Rex gets him and the others trapped under rubble, Gordian attempts to manipulate Rose into taking the dangerous vitamins to save his life, disregarding her addiction.
- Herakles is Gordian's suave yet brutal right hand who serves as the pure muscle for his boss's heinous crimes. Introduced subtly threatening to murder Rose, her husband, and her assistants if she doesn't save Gordian's life through her surgery. Coming to kidnap Rose to make her stay as Gordian's personal physician, Herakles enjoys taunting Rose and Don as he plans to murder Don to cover his tracks, before blowing up the apartment complex when Piper rescues Rose, killing several innocents in collateral and causing Piper's death due to her exhaustion and Rose's addiction resurfacing during an operation. Kidnapping Don for Gordian, Herakles causes the base to collapse during the battle and proceeds to leave everyone, including his own boss, to die under the rubble, escaping any justice for his crimes.
- Dead Mall, by Adam Cesare, David Stoll, & Justin Birch: The Penn Mills Galleria is a sadistic Genius Loci in the form of the Mall. It uses its illusion powers to lure and imprison countless people, children included, and transforms them into deformed creatures on whom it feeds. When a thief who is immune to its powers keeps breaking in and out of it, the Mall eventually condemns and imprisons him while letting him keep some of his will, occasionally letting him sneak out of its grounds while setting traps for him as a twisted game. When five teenagers break into it on the night before its demolition, the Mall lures them one by one into its clutches while planning to let one of them go so the demolition would be delayed. At the end, it drops the only girl who survived where the demolition crew will find her, and eagerly awaits new victims who will come in search of her friends.
- The Devils: Father Pierre Barre is a ruthless inquisitor known for his horrific tortures in attempts to play exorcist to the supposedly "devil" possessed nuns. Forming a deep hatred of Father Grandin, Barre sets about engaging in horrific physical and sexual torture of the convent, but centers on Grandin as well. Having been responsible for countless executions, Barre sets fire to Barre before the executioner can arrange for his strangulation before giving one of his bones to the obsessed sister Jeanne out of pure spite.
- Money Talks: Raymond Villard is a violent French gangster who has a penchant for killing people and stole millions of dollars worth of diamonds in London before getting arrested. In order to escape, Villard had his men raid the transfer bus he was on and blow up the bus, setting all the prisoners on fire, and to slaughter all other surviving prisoners and police officers. When a prisoner cuffed to his arm, Franklin Hatchett, proves to be irritating, Villard and his men attempt to throw him out of a helicopter to death and shoot him when he makes it to water. Putting the lives of Hatchett and a journalist named James Russell in danger, Villard makes many attempts on their lives through his henchmen, as well as even shooting an innocent store owner to death and framing Hatchett and James. When Hatchett and a rich friend outbid him at the Auto Expo where Villard had previously hidden the diamonds, Villard has his right hand lead a public car chase through the streets to catch Hatchett, but not before Villard kidnaps and tortures Russell in order to get back the diamonds. When Villard meets Hatchett at a stadium and runs into numerous groups wanting the diamonds, Villard has his men open fire on them all and attempts to get away in a helicopter and leave his men to be arrested when the police arrive.
- The Neon Demon: Hank the motel owner is a sleazy and callous predator who pimps out young runaways, showing a delight over doing so to a 13-year-old who falls into his clutches, which he refers to as "real Lolita shit." Jesse receives a premonition of Hank violently assaulting her with a knife and locks the door to keep him out, only for Hank to attack and rape the young teen girl next door.
- Only God Forgives: Billy Thompson is a violent heroin dealer with a penchant for raping and beating prostitutes. Casually deciding he wants to "fuck a 14-year-old", Billy hunts down a teenage sex worker to brutally violate and beat to death. Dying himself in a vigilante killing, his brother Julian finds Billy's crime so disgusting he refuses to avenge him.
- Willy's Wonderland: Jerry Robert Willis was the owner and founder of Willy's Wonderland, using the entertainment center to mask the fact that he was one of the 20th century's most twisted, sadistic serial killers. Originally a serial killer who butchered 4 families, Willis recruited other murderers at a mental asylum before staging a breakout that saw the entire staff slaughtered. Working with his depraved staff, Willis would butcher and cannibalize entire families for years, eventually committing suicide in a Satanic ritual that transferred the souls of Willis and his employees into the animatronics populating Willy's Wonderland. Becoming "Willy Weasel", Willis continued to kill children and even slaughter his way through Hayesville's schools and shops before striking a deal with Sheriff Lund to spare Hayesville in exchange for regular sacrifices. With a body count unfathomable and a lack of care for his fellow killers, Willis spends the film having a group of teenagers picked off one by one before bisecting Lund herself for failing him.
- Seasons 5-6 (primarily): Krogan is the leader of the Dragon Flyers and second-in-command to Drago Bludvist himself, having been right there at his master's side when he massacred the chieftains of the archipelago. The one whom Drago has entrusted with capturing a Bewilderbeast, Krogan allies in a ruthless Big Bad Duumvirate with the Grimborns and later Johann, openly attempting to betray and kill them all at numerous points. Krogan subjects Calder Cay and Wingmaiden Island to brutal attacks, and at one point, Krogan lays waste to Berk, capturing and threatening the populace to cow Stoick into surrender, while attempting to massacre the captured dragons with a ballista for cruel sport. After capturing Heather's dragon and taking the Dragon Eye key from her, Krogan gives a false key and deliberately throws her dragon's cage into the sea with the goal of slowly drowning her, allowing Heather to unsuccessfully rescue her. Easily the cruelest boss in the entire franchise, Krogan kills one of his minions simply for complaining; throws his men dozens at a time to die either in active volcanoes or at the hands of the Bewilderbeast; and at one point vetoes Viggo's option of a quick execution for a failed minion simply for the pleasure of torturing the mook to death himself.
- The Black Spider: The Devil makes a dark pact with the village in return for an unbaptized child. When farmer's wife Christine attempts to cheat him by having children baptized, the Devil causes spiders to erupt from her face to kill the livestock. When the Devil is repulsed, he turns Christine into a black spider to kill villagers en masse across 600 years.
- Dear Laura, by Gemma Amor: "Mr. X", real name Stanley Aston, is a despicable pedophile who dedicates his life to terrorizing the titular Laura. After kidnapping, raping, and murdering Laura's best friend Bobby, X begins sending the teenaged Laura letters demanding "favors" from her—such as used clothing or hair clippings—in exchange for supposed information on the missing body of Bobby. X stalks, harasses, and psychologically devastates Laura for years, pursuing her even when she moves away, and the culmination of his brutality is when he drives Laura to pull out one of her own molars as a "gift" for him. When Laura finally marries and has a child, X goads her into a final confrontation by threatening her child, where X sadistically twists the knife by tricking Laura into digging up a grave in search of Bobby's corpse, only for it to be nothing but deer bones. When police investigate, X's property is revealed to be littered with not only the decapitated head of Bobby, but also the bodies of at least 7 children he has raped and killed.
- "Head Man", by Robert Bloch: Otto Krantz is the sadistic headman of Berlin who decapitates thousands with a delight to be seen performing his "act". After killing countless, Otto wants to practice on even less deserving victims and illegally bribes the local authorities to allow him access to a woman and her father to decapitate them for sport.
- Survivor, by J.F. Gonzalez:
- Jeff Sheer, better known by his stage name "Animal", is the star of numerous snuff films who delights in violence, death, torture, and rape. Having been introduced to the scene by an ex-lover whose greatest wish was to be tortured to death, Animal embraced his monstrosity and frequently violates and tortures innocent people to death. When given the chance, Animal even slaughters an infant on camera and cannibalizes the remains. After the director unwittingly allows heroine Lisa Miller to escape, Animal rapes him to death with a bladed toy and attempts to find and torture Lisa to death.
- Rick Shectman is a depraved porn producer who has found his niche in sadistic child pornography and snuff films. Responsible for countless amounts of child abuse being filmed, Rick even pimps out his own 10-year-old son for bestiality films. Taking to filming the torture, rape, and murder of people who "won't be missed", Rick uses the services of the vile Animal in his films, and punishes a minion that fails him by having Animal kill him with a bladed sex toy. Rick spends the story trying to catch and use Lisa as a special victim for his films, and hires other vile killers to murder the men who are protecting Lisa.
- Mabel Schneider is a seemingly-kind old woman who is actually a rapist, killer, and cannibal. Having gained a taste for death when she accidentally murdered a client during a BDSM session, Mabel began luring men, women, and especially children into her clutches to be horribly assaulted and tortured to death by her, their bodies then used as food; her "favorite snacks" are eyes and genitalia. In one case, Mabel sexually groomed a teenage girl for months, before tying her up and eating her eyes right out of her skull. Mabel has killed so many people over the years that she has lost count, estimating she has slaughtered at least 60 people, and her depravity is so fierce that she earned a spot in multiple snuff films. When she is hired to help capture Lisa, Mabel murders multiple men to entrap the woman, and gleefully tries to watch as she is raped to death, Mabel's only desire being to consume Lisa's eyeballs when the latter is dead.
- The Continental: Cormac O'Connor. the original ruler of the New York Continental, is a tyrant who corrupts young runaways and flaunts the rules of the underworld. Having taken in Winston Scott and his brother Frankie, Cormac once had them burn down a building heedless of the innocent family within. Having Frankie killed when he rebels, Cormac threatens a guard to leap to his death from a balcony lest Cormac murder his entire family and even beats a cellist to death when the man wishes to get a job elsewhere. Cormac tries to destroy the entire Continental and all in it to escape before trying to kill Winston himself.
- The Amazing Spider-Man Series: Norman Osborn is the morally bankrupt founder of Oscorp Industries, using the company for selfish purposes amidst claims of good intentions. Having worked with Richard Parker to develop physiological mutations and enhancements, Norman planned to abuse their research in a variety of ways, namely selling biological weapons to foreign countries. When Richard refused to go along, Norman arranged the murders of Richard and his wife Mary. Continuing their research through the abused Dr. Curt Connors, Norman uses his emissary Ratha to pressure Connors into experimenting on humans, then to inject an experimental drug into an entire hospital of veterans under the illusion it is a flu shot. Norman further finances Ravencroft and its heinous, torturous experiments on inmates, and it is Norman's emotional abuse and neglect of his son Harry that plays a major role in the boy going mad. Though the desire to cure his degenerative disease partially motivates him, Norman cares most for power and legacy, and ruins countless lives to secure both.
- Chrono Trigger: The Musical: Lavos is an alien that caused a mass extinction event when it first arrived on the planet, and spent millions of years farming humans like cattle to devour them and all other life. On the Day of Lavos in 1999 A.D., Lavos would break through the surface of the planet, causing an earthquake as it did so, and carpet bomb the planet with a rain of fiery spears. When faced with Crono and his friends traveling through time on a quest to foil its plans, Lavos obliterates Crono for daring to stand against it. Hell-bent on destroying all life and openly taking pleasure in the suffering of others, Lavos proves itself the worst of all the musical's monsters.
- Five Nights at Freddy's songs "Follow You" & "You're the Key": William Afton returns from his previous demise and proves to be as dastardly as ever. Now a virus that is yearning for release, Afton manipulates and brainwashes Vanessa into becoming his reluctant follower, sending her to Freddy Fazbear's Mega Pizzaplex with the goal of rebuilding and returning him to his former glory, all while Vanessa herself is left to helplessly watch as her body is forced into slaughtering various children against her will.
- Empress Beatrix Vespasian-Orus, narcissistic despot of the realm of Imperium, is a genocidal maniac who devolves into truly depraved madness. Power-hungry even as a child, Beatrix imprisoned her sister and assassinated her father to take the throne, while perverting their realm's peaceful alliance with dragons to forcibly harvest their power for infinite energy. Beatrix subjects dragons to years of sadistic torture in order to extract their life force until they're "drained to dust", all while scheming to subjugate the mighty Source Dragons so that she can conquer the Merged Realms. Enabling and encouraging her subjects to hunt down every dragon in existence, Beatrix's cruelties are expounded when she responds to an escape attempt by spitefully trying to rip the life out of Riyu. Upon learning that the Ninja seek the Dragon Cores, the Empress—apathetic to their mission to stop the world-shattering MergeQuakes—steals the Cores to create a superweapon capable of annihilating anyone who defies her conquest, with not even Imperium's own citizens safe: when they rise up against her lies, Beatrix begins indiscriminately firing her weapon to create MergeQuakes throughout the kingdom, giddily cackling as she tries to kill everyone in her way and arrogantly refusing to believe the warnings that her actions will rend reality apart.
- Comet Crisis: "The One Who Is Many" is a shapeshifting alien that endlessly seeks chaos to entertain itself. Centuries ago, the creature wreaked havoc on another planet by using its powers to breed paranoia and hatred among the populace, turning friend against friend until a massive war erupted and shattered the world to pieces. The monster survived on a chunk of the planet that became the asteroid Delta V, where it waited for intelligent life to arrive for it to torment. When the Ninja are stranded on the asteroid, the One Who Is Many delights in manipulating them against one another, scheming to ensure they will stay as its playthings forever.
- "The Darkest Deal": The Collector is a "man with bravado and a charismatic flair" who is, in actuality, a cunning demon. Met by up-and-coming Blues musician Pinestraw Spruce At the Crossroads, the Collector makes a contract with the man, granting him fame and recognition in exchange for his soul. Despite his newfound glory, Pinestraw is haunted and terrorized by demons and the tortured ghosts of the Collector's past victims, including the Collector taking the form of his deceased mother to mock him. The Collector sadistically taunts Pinestraw before dragging him to Hell, adding him to the collection of many other musicians he has done the same to over the years.
- Dahlia Gillespie is the High Priestess of the sinister Order's Sect of the Holy Woman. To make her followers more malleable to her apocalyptic goals, Dahlia has the hallucinogenic drug PTV distributed amongst them, uncaring for its dangerous side effects, and has any officials investigating her killed. Intent on summoning the God worshipped by the Order to empower herself in the new world even as it devastates the planet, Dahlia has a series of girls kidnapped and impregnated by the supernatural being, with each attempt leading to the young children dying. Deciding to attempt the ritual with her own psychic daughter Alessa, Dahlia's violation leads to Alessa nearly burning to death, only kept alive by her powers. When Alessa splits her own soul to allow part of herself a happy life, Dahlia keeps Alessa's physical body in immobile agony within Silent Hill's hospital for seven years. Upon Alessa's other half Cheryl Mason being drawn back to the town, Dahlia manipulates protagonist Harry, Cheryl's loving adoptive father, into helping her perform the ritual to usher the Order's God into reality. With no interest in the salvation some Order members desire and cruel beyond measure, Dahlia proves to be far more evil force than any of the monsters lurking within the cursed town.
- Nemesis comic book sequel:
- Cogem is a sapient A.I. who views humans as inferior life-forms, and decides to kickstart a Robot War by hijacking various industries and producing legions of robots loyal to his command, including several mechanical monsters. Annihilating entire cities, Cogem took over most of the world until Ultraman Great's return. As Great takes on Cogem's robot army, Cogem reveals it had converted the Earth's core into a nuke and will detonate the whole planet should Great attempt further retaliation, forcing Great to stand by helplessly in the face of the onslaught. As Ultraman Great and his human allies try sabotaging Cogem's core only to be caught, Cogem delivers a beat down on a weakened Ultraman Great while taunting the Ultra over his love and care of his human friends and how Cogem will enjoy eliminating Great's allies; when Great eventually defeats Cogem, it transforms into a Virtual Ghost and leaves with a We Will Meet Again threat.
- Gudis is resurrected in a stronger form and is even more sadistic than before. Employing a human thug, Raptor, as its enforcer, Gudis converts Raptor into an Evil Doppelgänger of Ultraman Great and sends Raptor to invade Earth's cities in an attempt to draw his nemesis, Ultraman Great, out of hiding. When Raptor fails to deliver Ultraman Great in time, Gudis decides to unleash a powerful alien virus across the globe to eliminate all humans; when an injured and badly-handicapped Ultraman Great tries fighting Gudis, Gudis delivers a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown on Great while gloating about the many other worlds it is going to conquer after destroying Great.
- Raptor starts off as a human mass murderer and escaped convict, who got himself mutated to a stronger monstrous form after exposure to radiation. Introduced trying to kill a woman and child before he's beaten off by Ace Kimura, Raptor, coveting more power, breaks into a bio-lab to steal a piece of Gudis' tentacle while brutally killing security guards with his bare hands. After assimilating with Gudis and becoming an Evil Doppelgänger of Ultraman called Evil Ultraman Great, Raptor gleefully wipes out entire fleets of jets sent to stop him and goes on a destructive rampage lasting for several days, trampling civilians underfoot and takes pleasure working with Gudis to brutally beat down Ultraman Great. When Gudis decides to exterminate all humans with a poisonous cloud, Raptor is more than willing to support Gudis' plans, excited at the prospect of conquering entire planets while uncaring about the fate of mankind.
- Precarious World:
- Infinitor is an alien seeking to destroy the planet of Growlanser, seeing himself superior. Absorbing the lifeforce of the planet 2,000 years ago, Infinitor was sealed in the Dragon Orb after a war, creating the Screapers to kill the residents and using his army as pawns. Returning and taking over Monopolis by possessing the line of chairmen, Infinitor planned to time travel to stop his first defeat. Having the populace take Pollumine Seeds by escalating a war and lying about their benefits, Infinitor secretly absorbs the planet's energy while killing those who tried to stop it. With the energy, Infinitor travelled back to stop his first defeat, trying to kill Merklich in a final battle with his true body.
- Wellber, the Major of Formeros, is a representation of the country's corrupt regime. The right hand of President Glyme, Wellber was ordered to eliminate the rival candidate Dietrich from the election, framing Dietrich's brother Hoffman for embezzling weapons, his unit killed in the process. Hunting Hoffman, Wellber was promoted and worsened the war with Hingistan for resources, Wellber killed all threats to his power and the war, ending with him attempting to kill the entire Black Market and Hoffman when they find evidence of his corruption.
- Zafreed, the former chancellor of the Hingistan Royal Family, schemed their downfall for his own power. Having the eldest Prince Gilliam killed in battle and the king dying from depression, Zafreed took the throne, forcing heavy taxes and the eldest princess to marry him despite the age difference. Deadly poverty rose, leading to mass starvation and Civil War, while Zafreed fiercely hunted rebels, forcing them to terrorism against Formeros. Planning to eliminate all his foes, Zafreed used Hingistan's giant to try to annihilate his foes, uncaring for civil and friendly casualties.
- Hakaiou: King of Crusher: The alien bug is a sapient, sadistic creature who travels around planets seeking troubled, stressed-out individuals, infecting them with a monstrous virus before telepathically urging them to destroy everything as means to sow the seeds of destruction. Infecting the overworked player protagonist, the bug manipulates the latter into destroying his own office, instigating his mutation from human to a powerful werebeast, and further influencing the player into destroying his own neighborhood and eventually the whole city, gaining increasingly larger in the process. When the player becomes a flying kaiju, the bug orchestrates the player to attack New York to maximize the "joy of destruction", turning Manhattan into a burning wasteland; in the worst ending, the player regains his humanity, only to find out the bug has infected his newborn child with the same monster virus to begin another cycle of destruction.
- Silent Debuggers: Charles Smith, who was seemingly worried about the monster infestation on the OHME cargo station he was in charge of, is in truth responsible for it in the first place. Charles collaborated with the nation of Zabaris to mutate his first set of victims into mindless beasts called Bioroids and unleash them into the station with no regards if his employees, such as Steve and Head Engineer Ray, die in the assault. Charles then worked with Zabaris to have a lie about the OHME station containing treasure spread across outer space in order to claim more victims and transmutate them into Bioroids. Charles eventually arranged for all the current ones to die in order to turn their unwitting killer into a stronger variant and then travel across the universe until all mankind gets mutated into Bioroids.
- Skeleton Krew: Dr. Moribund Kadaver is a former mortician-turned-Mad Scientist who sees himself as mankind's new messiah. Taking control of a Prison Ship's bio-lab, Dr. Kadaver converts the lab's cryongenics plant into a radiation core before unleashing it, turning hundreds of prisoners into mindless mutants he can control, causing untold amounts of deaths in the process. Applying the radiation's effects upon himself and basking in its power, Dr. Kadaver intends to crash the ship into the middle of the city and unleash the hordes of mutants to Take Over the World.
- Utawarerumono: Niwe is The Emperor of the powerful nation of Shikeripechim, composed of various groups united under the threat of political terrorism. Upon learning of Hakuowlo's true identity, Niwe declares war upon the land of Tuskur. After his invasion was thwarted by Hakuowlo, Niwe, along with Dii, tricked Orikakan, the Emperor of Kucca Kecca, into believing that Hakuowlo was his traitorous brother-in-law, leading to Kucca Kecca declaring war on Tuskur and causing the death of the villagers of Yamayura—the surrogate family of Hakuowlo, Eruruu, and Aruruu. Upon learning the truth, Niwe had Orikakan assassinated, leaving the nation of Kucca Kecca in ruins. When Niwe begins invading Tuskur once more, he has his army burn villages and slaughter countless innocents to further enrage Hakuowlo over the needless death of innocents. During the final clash against Hakuowlo, Niwe would go so far as to burn his capital city to the ground, killing many of his own citizens, all to fuel the hatred within Hakuowlo to the point where he transformed into his monstrous god form. Even in his last moments Niwe goads Hakuowlo into killing him, citing that one must be the predator and one must be the prey.
- C.O.P.S. (1988)'s "The Case of the Lowest Crime": Addictem is a drug lord flooding Empire City with a new drug called Crystal Twysts. Addictem creates 200 Crystal Twyst addicts within a week, with many of them ending up hospitalized or in mental institutions; Crystal Twysts are also deadly in large doses. Addictem offers to become partners with Empire City's main crime lord, Big Boss. Big Boss is disgusted by Addictem's business practices and has him thrown out of his office. Addictem has no limits regarding who he sells his drugs to, willing to sell them to 2 pre-teen girls.
- Fantomcat's "Tomb of the Fantoms": Salamander is a criminal who wants to destroy the world to get revenge for being put down and disrespected. He breaks into a laboratory and disintegrates two scientists who work there before activating a cyclotron and planning to use it to create a chain reaction that will destroy the world.
So, I think it’s about time we finished off the overdue Waking the Dead proposals. As some of you may remember, we’ve finished all of the candidates we are 100% certain qualify and are now onto the candidates that we aren’t so sure about. There are three remaining, with two from me and one from MGD. Here is mine, from the Series 7 episode “Sins”.
After the severed head of Governor James Reading is discovered by two boys out fishing, Boyd and his team reopen a cold case that looked into his murder. One night, when his daughter went out bowling, she returned to find his decapitated body in their living room. The head was never found until now, and the team very quickly suspect that a prisoner with a grudge was responsible for his death, and as a web of depravity is unearthed within the prison, it quickly turns out that the predators inside have nothing on the people who are actually tasked with keeping them prisoner. We have the already approved Linda Cummings and also…
Who is he?
Governor Reading himself.
What has he done?
Far from the firm but fair prison governor he pretends to be, Reading is actually more depraved than most of the inmates of the prison. Running the prison with an iron fist, Reading also has a particular sexual fetish which he uses his job to indulge in with impunity: Non-consensual sexual torture and rape. Whenever a prisoner stepped out of line, Reading would have them taken to an isolated cell where he would make his main guard, Pike, beat them senseless before sexually torturing and raping them for hours on end. He claimed at least 8 victims in this way, with them being the only ones who raised a complaint against him and the implication that most of the men in the prison fell victim to him.
However, when the circumstances of his death are revealed the true extent of his depravity is shown. For years, Reading had also been raping his own daughter Cathy repeatedly. After she became pregnant, Reading tried to bully her into getting an abortion and then told her to "got to bed early" so he could rape her again. Finally snapping after the years of sexual abuse that he had subjected to, Cathy bludgeoned him over the head and, thinking that she had killed him, called in Linda Cummings to help her. Linda then gave her an alibi and finished Reading off, severing his head to dispose of the evidence.
Heinous Standard?
So this is where we are most unsure on Reading. Reading is, without doubt, an utterly loathsome bastard and would easily qualify in almost any other crime show. Unfortunately this particular show is Waking The Dead, and it has a very high heinous standard. The current keeps include a Serial Killer with 70+ victims who also tortured his victims sexually, a pedophile with hundreds of victims and even the nazi war criminal Josef Mengele.
That said however, Reading specifically targets ADULTS as opposed to children. Whilst we have several already approved characters who target young boys we do not currently have an outright Serial Rapist of, let alone one who specializes in male on male prison rape (I feel queasy having to type that). With nine victims and more implied, Reading is easily the most prolific Serial Rapist on the show with specifically adult victims. For reference, in the episode there are two other characters who are in the prison due to committing similar offenses. Whilst both of them are vile they still don’t come close to Reading in the level of victims or the implied amount. Because of that, I think Reading stands out for that reason alone, with only my next candidate having a similar level and niche (who is not actually from the TV show at all but rather a prequel radio drama).
Redeeming Qualities or Freudian Excuse?
Not a chance in hell. When his true nature is revealed, Reading is revealed to be one of the biggest Hate Sink’s in the entire series to a level that disgusts even Boyd and the team.
Conclusion?
Unsure. I think his niche is JUST bad enough that I’m leaning to a yes but I want to hear what everyone thinks first.
Edited by Atlantis1930 on Oct 29th 2023 at 5:20:00 PM
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