I've decided to start a cleanup thread for Narm, since it seems to attract a lot of misuse and complaining. Like I said in my ATT post
, "some misuse is easy to catch (e.g. saying a joke is Narm when Narm by definition can't be a joke), a lot of examples fall into grey areas that seem like misuse but it's hard to tell. Like nitpicks that at first glance seem to be valid examples, but feel like stretches the more you think about them."
I think one of the main reasons for misuse is that most people aren't clear on what Narm actually is. To my understanding, it's when a scene is intended to be dramatic, but comes off as cheesy/funny unintentionally. But going by the page description, it's kind of vague what actually qualifies something as Narm. At the top, it says "Narm is a moment that is supposed to be serious, but due to either over-sappiness, poor execution, excessive Melodrama, or the sheer absurdity of the situation, the drama is lost to the point of surpassing "cheesy" and becoming unintentionally funny." But then later on in the same page, it gives a much more vague definition:
In CGI movies or video games unrealistic movements or facial expressions may result in Narm. Dated special effects during dramatic scenes can cause Narm for younger audience members who were raised on nothing less convincing than the Phantom Menace. Totally Radical dialog in cartoons or commercials pandering to children can also be a rich source of Narm. Even a good performance in a bad movie can evoke Narm if the actor's performance isn't enough to save the scene.
That last sentence I feel just confuses the whole thing. It makes it sound like absolutely anything can count as Narm, no matter if it works in context or not.
Most often, Narm is misused to mean "anything I personally don't think worked," whether or not it was intended as dramatic or comes off as funny. And when a work is high-profile enough, hoo boy, pretty much every scene is Narm to somebody. You can look at the Narm subpages for Doctor Who, Star Wars, and Game of Thrones and find tons of examples of people nitpicking the tiniest of details in a scene and blowing whatever it is out of proportion.
Another problem is that since it's such a subjective trope, it's not clear if there's supposed to be any sort of in-fandom consensus on the example in-question, or if every example is valid under the "it's called YMMV for a reason" excuse, even if the only person who thinks the example is Narm is the troper who adds it in.
I think it needs to be clearer whether nitpicks are valid examples of Narm, especially since nitpicking overlaps so often with barely-disguised complaining. The most frequent offenders for Narm entries I see are complaining, nitpicking, adding jokes, and ZeroContextExamples. I'm going to use Venom (2018) as an example, with my comments in bold:
- The scene of Eddie freaking out on the medical table is presented as the teaser's Money-Making Shot. It... doesn't quite work as intended, which isn't helped by it being sped up, making it look like a parody.
- The final trailer features a more complete version of the clip showing Venom's face "shutter" over Eddie. Whether or not this works or if it looks like a cheap special effect depends on who you ask.
- What makes the freakout even more narmful is that Eddie's screams are different screams playing on top of each other. The actual film lacks this strange effect. This example seems fine to me, but falls into the "The trailer is Narmy but the finished product isn't" doublespeak.
- The leaked trailer revealed some pretty terrible lines (“The guy you work for is an evil person.”). Tom Hardy's horrible New York...ish(?) accent isn't doing the delivery any favors either. And it really does not help that his voice cracks on the reading of "evil person". Thankfully, that line is not in the film proper. Do we keep examples that are purely in the trailers? Also an example of "thing falls flat" instead of "thing is funny."
- Hardy's line reading of "You're not real, you are just in my head." sounds like he's suffering from Elmuh Fudd Syndwome. At worst, he sounds like Adam Sandler's signature Manchild babbling. However there's some speculation that, based on the context of the scene and Eddie's stumbling movements, he's actually drunk, or perhaps even overdosed on medication (considering he was seen taking a bunch of pills, thinking he's sick). That and it could be a case of Reality Ensues, as it's unlikely anyone would keep the mental clarity to speak normally as an alien parasite is slowly bonding with their body. Natter. Goes back and forth between snarky complaints and defending the moment. Also nitpicking.
- Movie trailers cutting quotes out of context to form a new sentence is nothing new, but the editing on the line "you will only hurt bad people" is particularly poor, and it's very easy to hear that the line has been cut together out of separate pieces of dialogue. Not really a dramatic thing, so I don't think it counts as Narm. And it definitely isn't funny, it just falls flat.
- How Jenny Slate's character pronounces "symbiote" note . Plus, her giving firm, equal stress to all three syllables like she's speaking some foreign language. Luckily, this was cut from the theatrical release. Nitpicking and not funny.
- The shot of Eddie crashing straight through a half-fallen tree in the forest that he could just as easily have ducked under comes across as more comedic than cool, as if they just needed an additional gratuitous shot of something breaking. Especially if your mind goes to Victor from Wet Hot American Summer and his inexplicable refusal to jump over anything. It really does not help that the evil bad-guy vehicle chasing him looks like a slightly modified golf cart. The context for this one in the movie is that Venom is taking control of his body and forcing him to blindly flee through the woods to escape the Life Foundation. Context makes it not-Narm. Cut?
- Although it may look better in the context of the full scene, Eddie flying 50 feet into the air on his motorcycle off a slightly steep hill seems to rather severely break the laws of physics. Clearly written before the movie came out. Cut?
- The Jump Scare (on both sides of the fourth wall) where Venom suddenly shouts Eddie's name as he brushed his teeth would have been much more scary if not for the fact that the latter Screams Like a Little Girl. There's also the fact that he somehow throws himself backwards so hard that he crashes into the bathroom wall. Intended as comedic, so it isn't Narm.
- Remember how creepy and awesome that shot from the second trailer of the symbiote forming around Eddie's face in order to eat a guy was? In the third trailer, the potential Nightmare Fuel of that moment is significantly undercut by Venom slobbering all over the man's face with its tongue in an amusingly over-the-top manner. One is reminded of the scene with Patrick licking the yellow popsicle, or perhaps "This is the taste of a liar".... This seems pretty in-character for Venom. I'm not sure with this one.
- The guy who Carlton Drake subjects to Orifice Invasion in the third trailer would have been disturbing, if not for the victim's bland expression. Moment that falls flat; not funny. Cut.
- The symbiote's Venom-face forming on the end of Eddie's arm to talk to him strongly resembles a deranged hand puppet rather than a vicious alien parasite. There's also the fact that they can communicate telepathically, making that sequence unnecessary. Seems fine.
- Venom's violent threats to his enemies are this if they're not aggressively tasteless Black Comedy. His threat to mutilate a man until he's "like a turd on the wind" is particularly groan-inducing, especially coming after a genuinely frightening threat. How It Should Have Ended was even driven by this to make a video on just the trailer for the very first time, in which he mangles a bunch of other sayings. Pretty sure they are intended as comedy, so it's not Narm. Cut.
- The animation of the yellow symbiote just looks like mozzarella cheese come to life. Nitpick. Also... inaccurate? It's more of a mucus yellow.
- After Venom heals Eddie's broken legs, he flatly states "My legs! They were broken... and now they're not broken..."
- "My leg!" Seems fine to me.
- "HOSPITAL!!!! (extremely long pause) Now!" Zero-Context Example.
- Eddie and Anne quite casually discussing cannibalism as one of the symbiote's favorite activities. It's something that would probably sincerely shock and disgust the average person and likely require therapy, and yet it's bandied about like it's a pretty normal occurrence. These kinds of entries are tricky to me. They seem valid at first glance, but there's something off about them. I don't think this one counts if the work itself is treating the moment lightly.
- Any menace from Cletus Kasady is completely undercut by Woody Harrelson's truly ridiculous wig. A common comparison is that it causes him to look like a live-action Sideshow Bob, or a make-up-less Pennywise. Uses complainy word-choice. Otherwise fine.
- Kasady promising that there will be "carnage" after he gets out is so on-the-nose that it feels like it's straight out of a parody. First off, that's not an example of Anvilicious. Secondly, this verges on a nitpick to me. I'm not sure. It's not really funny, just lame.
- The final trade of words between Venom and Riot before the final battle is nothing but total Ham-to-Ham Combat - that and the two symbiotes happen to be Perpetual Smilers, which just gives off the feeling that they don't really give that much of a damn about their goals.
- Towards the end of the film, it's revealed that Venom used to be something of a loser on his home planet, like Eddie. This is his entire reason for wanting to save the Earth. Moment played as a joke, so it isn't Narm.
- Despite angrily forcing Eddie to spit out cooked meats because they're no longer living animals, the symbiote develops a taste for tater tots, and it practically demands that Eddie buy some during a conversation in the ending. The director admitted in an interview that the writers just thought it was funny and put it in the script. It unfortunately invites comparisons to a similar tots-focused scene in Napoleon Dynamite as a result. Entry admits it's a joke. So it isn't Narm.
- Drake having bonded with Riot is treated as a huge shocking twist going into the final battle... except for the fact that the audience was already well aware of it and saw the whole process. It feels very much like a consequence of Executive Meddling to give Riot more screentime. Another tricky example. Seems to fall under "scene doesn't work" instead of "scene is funny."
- Right after Eddie is separated from the symbiote, a rather obvious ADR overdub replaces the intended "fuck you" with the much less vicious "we're done". Not really funny, just falls flat.
- Eddie's "DRAKE! STOP!" sounds less like he's in pain and more like a little kid telling his Big Brother Bully to stop giving him a wedgie. Nitpicking. Most people wouldn't even pay this sequence any mind.
Another issue with Narm is the distinction between moments that are unintentionally funny on their own, and moments that are only unintentionally funny after Memetic Mutation or similar feat. Does the latter truly count as Narm? Because you can make the case that everything that has ever been made can fall under that.
Edited by MisterApes-a-lot on Mar 31st 2019 at 7:06:31 AM
ArthurEld
Since: May, 2014
#1277: Apr 22nd 2022 at 4:52:27 PM
Maybe, but that isn't what happens. Nobody is discussing the vampires and then just deciding not to call them that.
Again, it feels like a shoehorn because there isn't a single moment where characters refuse to use that term, the narrative of the show just doesn't dwell on terminology because our characters are busy spreading vampirism or trying hard to not die.
ArthurEld
Since: May, 2014
#1279: Apr 22nd 2022 at 6:22:55 PM
If it works, doesn't that make it Narm Charm?
Though I'm not sure you can do Narm deliberately in the first place. On top of it, it's just a ZCE, so it should be cut three times over.
Anddrix
Since: Oct, 2014
#1280: Apr 23rd 2022 at 5:25:56 AM
Bringing up the following examples from Narm.Saint Seiya
- Hyoga's story in the anime is quite funny. He first kills his master Crystal and then faces the master of his master turning him into the "Master Killer."
- Sometimes scenes where Seiya receives a powerful attack are hilarious due to his facial reactions. Two notable ones include the final Hades Sanctuary OVA where even he receives Radamanthys' Greatest Caution and his body starts releasing smoke afterwards and in half of the Tenkai Hen movie when Toma presses his stomach.
- Talking about Tenkai Hen, its intro goes through a Mood Whiplash. Its first five minutes involve peaceful music while a comatose Seiya is in a wheelchair. Then several weapons fall from the sky nearly killing him but miss every mortal blow. The scene continues with no music as the enemies start wondering how they missed such obvious target.
- The anime-only scene where Lizard Misty strips naked (though we don't get to see a lot of it thanks to the strategically placed shots) takes a bath in the middle of a beach located near Tokyo is made of this. Not only does Misty make herself look like some Cloud Cuckoo Lander who's bathing in a public place just because some droplets of blood fell on his arm, but when Seiya shows up and even tells him "Please Put Some Clothes On so we can fight", he just laughs it off and keeps talking while naked. What the heck...?!
- Also in the anime, Saori wakes up more or less unharmed in the middle of the canyon that she and Seiya threw themselves into in a Suicidal "Gotcha!" and sees Seiya lying unconscious not too far from her. Then she goes to him, which is okay... except that her Girly Run is atrociously animated AND, for more hilarity, there's a cheesy J-Pop ballad by Mitsuko Horie as Background Music.
- There's this anime-only scene where the Saints find out that Shiryu has definitely lost his eyesight after the Eye Scream incident, despite the doctor's efforts and, as a result, everyone is depressed and Seiya suffers a screaming Heroic BSoD. Problem is, while Seiya's devastated reaction is very understandable, the cheesy Purple Prose he uses as he pleads with the doctors to not give up comes up as more melodramatic than it should be and ruins the until-then genuine emotional impact of the scene. It was even worse in the Latin-American Spanish dub, where the late Jesús Barrero tried to convey Seiya's anguish as much as he could but made him sound like he was straight-up taking clues from Mexican telenovelas instead...
- From the fourth Toei movie, Lucifer reveals that he came back with the help of the previous three villains and that they will get the earth. This then cuts to the villains’ plans for the earth, which unfortunately consists entirely of showing static images of them laughing and recycled footage of their actions from their movies.
- Due to the way he’s drawn, Lucifer’s angry face makes him look like he’s pouting.
- Lucifer’s Evil Plan entirely relies on Athena being Too Dumb to Live and essentially trusting his word that he won’t destroy the Earth if she gives herself up to him. She accepts, and is shocked when he turns out to be lying.
MrMediaGuy2
Since: Jun, 2015
#1281: Apr 23rd 2022 at 8:06:33 PM
From The Cat in the Hat, for the section under the animated TV special.
- Narm: A minor case. "Chat" in the song is pronounced how an English-speaker might read it ("shat"), but in French the final letter of most words is not pronounced (unless accented or directly preceding a word beginning with a vowel), so the proper way to say it would be "sha." What makes it funny is the fact that, as pronounced, the word does mean something: it refers specifically to a female cat!
MisterApes-a-lot
Since: Mar, 2018
#1282: Apr 23rd 2022 at 9:59:25 PM
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- Rather low context
- Doesn't really say what's funny
- Wouldn't this just be covered by Mood Whiplash?
- Reads as Fridge and unclear if it's meant to be dramatic.
- Maybe the J-Pop thing is valid? The bad animation seems like it'd go under Special Effect Failure, if that.
- Reads as "thing falls flat" to me.
- Just a flaw.
- Maybe fine?
- Fridge
- I'm not really sure what that is, but I don't think it's Narm. It's certainly not played for drama. I'd say cut.
Anddrix
Since: Oct, 2014
#1283: Apr 24th 2022 at 1:00:26 PM
Bringing up the following example from Epic (2013):
- Narm: The scene where Professor Bomba sucks the shrunk MK into a vaccuum cleaner, believing to have finally caught a Leafman, only to see his own daughter calling for him through the glass. It's a very tense scene, leading Bomba to believe that he has officially lost his mind, but it's just so absurd that it's hard not to smirk at it.
MisterApes-a-lot
Since: Mar, 2018
#1284: Apr 24th 2022 at 5:42:18 PM
It doesn't really say what makes the scene absurd.
Anddrix
Since: Oct, 2014
#1285: Apr 25th 2022 at 6:49:11 AM
Bringing up the following examples from Morbius (2022):
- Narm:
- Characters referring to "Milo" by said name, given the context that Michael gave him the name purely because he couldn't be bothered to learn a new name after having had so many "Milos" beforehand.
- During the fight in the subway, there's a bit where the camera keeps cutting to Milo as he sprints in slow motion towards Morbius, making increasingly ridiculous screaming faces as he does so. You almost expect "Chariots of Fire" to start up.
MisterApes-a-lot
Since: Mar, 2018
#1286: Apr 25th 2022 at 9:04:14 AM
- General. Not played for drama. Fridge.
- Not sure if the last sentence is necessary, but the rest seems valid.
Anddrix
Since: Oct, 2014
#1287: Apr 25th 2022 at 4:01:26 PM
Bringing up the following examples from Narm.Sword Art Online:
- While the character designs are generally well made in their cutesy parameters, the fact that their faces have a shining "C:" smile as their default expression (particularly in official materials and artwork) can be a bit offputting.
- Every single fight scene that has Kirito making some distorted facial expressions.
- A lot of people consider that the anime takes itself too seriously even after the Aincrad arc ends and the MMORPG ceases to be a life-or-death issue. This gets especially bad in the "Calibur" mini-arc, where the characters are just playing the game normally, and yet they treat the whole thing as Serious Business.note
- Taken even further in Unital Ring where the group won't even sleep thanks to the game (as of the time, it's the only VRMMO) only park the avatar in one place while the player logging off and Kirito even refuses to took advantage of Alice and Yui.
- Related to the previous point is that some people consider a few death scenes too melodramatic to be taken seriously, and that's during the Aincrad arc, which should be the most emotionally effective one as the game is an actual life-or-death issue. This gets Up To Eleven during the ALO arc, since it maintains the tone, except that this time people don't die in real life, so such melodrama feels odd, to say the least.
- Some critics have pointed out that, despite how SAO treats itself entirely as somewhat-realistic science fiction, things like the NerveGear virtual reality systems, the sentient AI, fluctlights and virtual ghosts like Kayaba and Yuuki all come off as pulling off magic with technology (which is especially blatant given that the setting is apparently just 20 Minutes into the Future and not even full-fledged futurism that might justify it through Clarke's Third Law). One may even have to invoke the MST3K Mantra after that point.
- Using "Beta Tester" as some sort of derogatory term. Even worse is when it gets mixed with cheater to make "beater", which... sounds like something else. Also, their reasons for hating "Beta Testers" make them come off as overly-vocal scrubs more than anything given the MMORPG setting.
- The leader of Laughing Coffin, the guild of Player Killers, is known as "PoH". While it stands for the appropriately intimidating "Prince of Hell," it's said to be pronounced, "Pooh".
- After Kirito, Asuna and company defeat the Gleam Eyes and Kirito is left with almost zero points, Asuna emotionally hugs him. This is not narmy by itself; the narmy part comes when she stays clamped to his chest for minutes, giving her back to the group and without uttering a word, all while Kirito speaks normally with them as if nothing is out of the ordinary. Keep in mind that, even if at least Klein could see they were attracted to each other, they were not even lovers by that point (and although they had been, it would have been equally silly). Also giggle-worthy is that only a few people seem to find this even a bit melodramatic.
- The opening for the Fairy Dance arc has Suguha pushing Kazuto into the middle of a road, which many people have joked or memed that she was trying to get him hit by a car.
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
#1288: Apr 25th 2022 at 4:38:48 PM
From YMMV.Warframe:
- The New War features a grim Apocalypse Cult where the Sentients win and Ballas builds an empire of mind-controlled slaves. They go by "Narmer". Many people have a hard time taking the faction seriously with such a name, even considering the historical context behind itnote .
As the example itself says, the name "Narmer" is a reference to an Egyptian pharaoh. Does sounding like "narm" actually make something automatically narm?
MisterApes-a-lot
Since: Mar, 2018
#1289: Apr 25th 2022 at 6:41:42 PM
I would say no. It also doesn't cite a specific moment. Moreover, it's only funny if you're specifically a TV Tropes user, which borders "Association Narm" to me.
- General, not funny, not dramatic.
- General. Zero Context.
- General.
- Poor grammar. Doesn't say what's funny. Maybe fine with a rewrite?
- General. Maybe fine if a moment is cited.
- Just a complaint
- General. Doesn't say what's funny, though I could see it being valid with a rewrite.
- Doesn't cite a specific moment. Maybe if it did, it'd be fine.
- Needs a grammatical rewrite, but I guess the idea is fine.
- Low context.
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Industrious Incisors
#1290: Apr 25th 2022 at 6:43:07 PM
Either they're saying it's an Inherently Funny Word, or more likely they're being incredibly fan-myopic, as the term narm has little meaning to anyone outside of here.
Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Apr 25th 2022 at 9:43:55 AM
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TantaMonty
Since: Aug, 2017
#1291: Apr 26th 2022 at 7:06:38 AM
Bringing up the following examples from Resident Evil 4. As the very first example states, this game does not take itself seriously and most dramatic moments border on self-parody. As such, 90% of the examples here are misuse.
Intended to be campy
- Future Resident Evil games have been considered quite campy even with improved voice acting. It has surely evolved into self-parody in Resident Evil 4, with Leon howling in soul-wrenching woe at the deaths of the Mexican cop from Spain and the helicopter pilot who he knew for all of 10 minutes.
- Giant. Robotic. Salazar. Really, now? The fact that it had absolutely no thematic connection to either the previous areas or the key needed to enter the room was silly enough. The fact that the hands moved up and down to be used as lifts (which enemies could barely maneuver) was silly enough. Hell, the idea of Salazar spending money on a giant robotic statue of himself is enough narm for the entire series. But the chase at the end with falling pillars... Just what? Here's the scene, but sped up and set to a familiar piece of music.
- Tiny organic Salazar is also a rich source of narm, being a man who looks about 40 years older than the 20 years of age he claims he actually is, dresses like a 18th-century nobleman, and sounds like an evil Frito Bandito despite being [allegedly] Spanish and shares his name with a B-list villain from 24. If his ludicrous giant robot wasn't enough, then you're sure to crack up at his comical temper tantrums each time Leon breaks his balls, or his insistence on referring to Leon as "Meestair Kennedy" (or, in one scene, "Meestair Scott Kennedy").
- When you get to the Island, you have to go through a kitchen-like area in the medical facility. When you walk past the oven, a mook bursts out of it and attacks you, on fire. And then when you examine the oven, Leon even comments, "What the hell was he doing in there?"
- There's a particular room in Salazar's castle that is absolutely batshit insane, even by the game's already bonkers-mad standards. It starts almost as soon as you walk in, where you have to ride a gigantic gear contraption just to get to the room proper. Then you have to traverse spinning carousels of doom while evading fire-breathing dragon statues that inexplicably fall to pieces upon the deaths of their operators. And did we mention that, for no particular reason at all, the entire room is filled with lava? Overall, it looks and feels like a Zelda dungeon wandered into the wrong game by mistake. It really has to be seen to be believed.
- And to top it all off, once you get the key item from there, in order to get back to the main area of the castle, you... ride a roller coaster. Yep. We know what you're thinking, and yes, this is much too insane to make up.
Other issues
- “No thanks...bro!” Random quotes are not examples
- When Leon finds a deep freeze room full of corpses infected with parasites, his reaction: "Sucks to be them." Not a serious line
- Leon's subsequent comm link conversation with Saddler, where he audibly shouts "Saddler, you bastard!!"...which is nonsensically censored in the captions as "Saddler, you..." *Bleep*-dammit!
- Every one of Leon's back-and-forths with the villains on his comm link, really. Even funnier when Saddler's reaction to Leon's groan-inducing quips is a good natured laugh. What a guy. General example + The quipping makes it blatantly clear that the conversations are not to be taken seriously
- Saddler's big, hard, throbbing, killer tentacle wang. Salazar gets his own literal one-eyed snake when he goes One-Winged Angel. This particular scene absolutely counts as Narm, but the example itself lacks context
- At one point later in the game, Leon briefly succumbs to the parasite in him and tries to strangle Ada, forcing her to stab him in the leg and knee him away in order to stop him. Not only does the former wound fail to trouble him at all, but he then proceeds to give a "sorry" about as intense as if he had spilled water on her dress rather than tried to kill her. An otherwise intense and Nightmare Fuel inducing scene is ruined by Grade F voice acting from Leon. Not funny, just complaining
- While Paul Mercier is a good VA for Leon, he does slip into some sort of accent near the end. After he saves Ada from her Unwilling Suspension situation, he asks her the usual "You okay?" stuff. Or rather, "You oKEH?" It's weird since, otherwise, his accent and delivery is on point everywhere else. Saddler was probably laughing at that, actually. Minor accent slip that is not nearly as funny as this entry makes it out to be
- Ada and Krauser's awkwardly worded exchange regarding the latter (as well as Wesker) not trusting the former: Ada tells Krauser that she met Wesker before Krauser did (as if how long you knew a person factors into how much you trust them). Krauser responds with "We'll see soon enough if you did." which makes it seem as if Krauser is trying to verify whether Ada is being honest about the exact point in time she met Wesker. Not particularly funny, Fridge Logic
- Being able to kill Salazar in five seconds with the right set up. All that build up into his monstrous flower Tetsuo form and...you blow his eye out with a Magnum and blast him into Salazar chunks with a bazooka. Not a moment, Anti-Climax Boss
- If you are from Spain (or speak Spanish at all), you can find that broken Spanish from the enemies quite narmy. Particularly because the "Spaniard" villagers speak with what's very clearly a broken Mexican accent. General example + WTH, Casting Agency?
- Saddler's mutated form: he sprouts tentacles from his head that sport numerous eyes (he even has a large eye in his mouth). This form would be incredibly intimidating... if not for the fact that Saddler's human body is mostly unchanged and just dangles from the rest of the mutant's body. It ends up looking completely ridiculous. Not a moment
- Due to censorship issues, the VR Edition removes the "ballistics" line from Luis Sera to Ashley Graham in the cabin, and instead has the scene cut to Ashley angrily shouting "who are you?!" to him upon their first meeting. This makes Ashley look weirdly rude and hostile to Luis for no good reason. The edited cutscene makes less sense than the original, but is not exactly funny
Need confirmation
- Speaking of linguistic issues, there's the name of the parasites behind this mess. Las Plagas. Sounds scary enough, right? Not so fast! You might think it means "The Plagues," but it really translates to The Pests. As if their greatest threat was annoying you and eating your food stores. note According to this site, the word "plaga" means "calamity, disaster, plague"
Can probably be kept
- Mike's appearance in this game could count as this. We never see his face, he shows up in a helicopter killing Ganados for two minutes, and he is killed by one of them. His death became a meme, as Leon is incredibly angered by the death of a guy he never saw and barely even knew.
- Leon's goofy-ass death... Wheeze? Moan? Whatever it is, it's a common cause of this in-game.
- Accidentally (or deliberately) killing Ashley will result in Leon saying "Oh no..." with a delivery that sounds less like he just killed the president's daughter and more like he accidentally left his phone at work. This is accompanied by him kneeling dramatically, completely opposing the delivery of said line.
Anddrix
Since: Oct, 2014
#1292: Apr 26th 2022 at 12:27:48 PM
Bringing up the following examples from Little Fires Everywhere:
- Narm:
- In the final episode when Lexie pours her heart out to her mother about all her struggles and firmly states that she's not a perfect girl. Elena's primal scream of "YES YOU ARE!" can come across as this due to it coming out of nowhere (in addition to Lexie screaming "NO I'M NOT!" in retort). That being said, the absolute rage conveyed by both Reese Witherspoon and Jade Pettyjohn perfectly convey the dysfunctional chaos that the Richardson family has devolved into.
- The scene near the end where Izzy has an Imagine Spot of finding Mia and Pearl's car while hitchhiking and then getting in. It's shot in an obvious fuzzy filter to make it clear from the start it's a dream and seems really out of place.
MisterApes-a-lot
Since: Mar, 2018
#1293: Apr 26th 2022 at 5:19:57 PM
Go ahead and make the cuts as you see fit.
- Doesn't really say what's funny, just that it "can come across as this", which is poor example writing.
- Just a not-funny nitpick.
Anddrix
Since: Oct, 2014
#1294: Apr 27th 2022 at 3:09:36 AM
Bringing up the following example from One Moment in Time:
- Narm: The grand reason why Peter Parker missed his wedding according to Quesada in OMIT, well it turns out that some random guy managed to strike Spider-Man with a brick (with his Spider-Sense hitting him late), leading to a series of pratfalls that ends with Peter knocked out with the guy stacking up on him and sleeping through several days while Mary Jane got stood at the altar. Yeah, the grand Mephisto twist-of-fate by which history diverged is a power nerfing (on the Deathstroke v. Justice League scale), incoherent, utterly snide lame joke. Basically Spider-Man got hit by a rock...a big rock.
MisterApes-a-lot
Since: Mar, 2018
#1295: Apr 27th 2022 at 10:14:01 AM
That just reads as a regular complaint.
TantaMonty
Since: Aug, 2017
#1296: Apr 27th 2022 at 1:13:09 PM
Still cleaning up Resident Evil. Deleted the following examples and left a link to this discussion in the edit reason. Let me know if any of them should be restored.
Resident Evil 0
- James Marcus. He's a guy with hippie hair, who's 80 going on 20, who runs around in a bathrobe that looks like something out of Final Fantasy, who sees leeches as his children, and sings opera that controls the aforementioned leeches. Not a moment, Nightmare Retardant
- Enrico. Let's just say that the voice you get over the radio is not altered because he's shouting into a radio. Vague to the point of not making any sense
- Less funny than most of these examples: the part where Rebecca briefly reunited with one of her team members stood out because after he left the room, she narrated, "I never saw him again". She did never see him again, but it always seemed like some pretty lazy storytelling... Pure complaining
- Especially because it's the only other narration she does after the intro, long after you'd forgotten she was even narrating in the first place. Natter
- Keep in mind that it was made after REmake below. The cheesy dialogue sounds intentional. Justifying Edit
- Wesker Mode in the HD re-releases. It's basically the main game with Wesker replacing Billy during the story. Not only does the game still act like it's Billy and not Wesker, but neither the voice acting or the FMV cutscenes were changed to compensate for the change, making it either goofy or awkward. Not particularly funny. The potholed trope or Gameplay and Story Segregation are much better fits for this entry
Resident Evil 1/Remake
- Pretty much all of the voice acting in the original game, to a legendary extent. Slightly less so in the remake, but still present at times. General example
- Barry is responsible for 90% of the Narm in a very narmy game.
- "That was too close! You were almost a Jill sandwich!" "You're right!" The "sandwich" metaphor? Was even in the Japanese version. Oh boy. Obviously not meant to be a serious line.
- Some people think it sounds more like "jibble sandwich", which is even more narmish. Not relevant to this trope
- There are also people who think Jill's response makes it sound like she's about to start laughing. Natter
- More narm happens while the ceiling is descending. Jill stands there for about twenty seconds, hesitating, looking up at the descending ceiling and them at the open door, before finally deciding to exit the room. It's far too easy to imagine her making a derp face — complete with crossed eyes — while she's staring upwards. She doesn't
- But you don't have to worry about Barry. He has THISSSS! The remake pokes fun at the line when you unlock Barry's customized Samurai Edge by saying "Chris and Jill now have this!" The HD remaster changes the line to "It's really powerful!", which also pokes fun at Barry's other narmy lines. Lacks context, seems like Self-Deprecation rather than this trope
- The two lines above come from a cutscene in which Barry gives Jill some acid grenades in the original version. The Remake tweaked these, as it did all of Barry's lines, but it's not exactly much of an improvement... Not funny, just complaining
Barry: Hey, hold on a sec; look what I found.Jill: What?Barry: A can of fizz. it's sure to yellow and mellow those things. (Gives Jill a set of acid grenade rounds) It's yours. Hopefully, you won't have to use it.Jill: What about you?Barry: Oh, don't worry about me. I like the buddy-system we have here. (Hefts his Magnum and admires it)Jill: I...see..- JUSTAMOMENT!...I've found that Barry is probably the narmiest video game character ever. First-Person Writing and no context
- And Barry sure hopes this is not CHRIS' blood. ZCE
- Don't worry! Barry will just go and get some fresh air, and be eaten by a monster. ZCE
- Barry would like to know "WHAT IS THIS"!? In fact, he and other characters ask "What is this?" about half a dozen times over the course of the first 20 or so minutes of the game. ZCE
- And then there's the infamous scene where he finds Forest Speyer's body... "Just take - a - look - at - THIS! It's Forest. Ohh my COD!"
- Also ruining that particular scene is that though it's made clear exactly what they're talking about in REmake; in the original, because of the fixed camera angle, Forest's body is obscured from sight. A few people wondered exactly what was so mortifying about the forest below the balcony. Natter
- "I'm going to find out what caused Forrest's death.", followed seconds later by "It looks like he was killed by a CROW or something!" Natter
- "That was too close! You were almost a Jill sandwich!" "You're right!" The "sandwich" metaphor? Was even in the Japanese version. Oh boy. Obviously not meant to be a serious line.
- "It's not just a poisonous snake... it's a MONSTAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!" Random quotes are not examples
- Also, he forgot his serum. Something you don't really think about every day. Ditto
- Jill is, apparently, the Master of Unlocking. Ditto
- "Wesker! Where on earth have you BEAN!?" Ditto
- In the live-action opening to the first game, as the team watches the helicopter fly away, Chris screams in hilarious despair, "NO! DON'T GOOOO!" Well, duh, that's a perfectly valid reaction. Was he supposed to giggle after being abandoned by his teammate?
- That entire cutscene is filled to the brim with Narm. "Joseeeeph!" General example, Natter, lacks context
- That entire cutscene
- Barry doesn't think a huge snake is interesting. He's also bad with ropes. Weblinks are not examples
- Throughout that entire game, they were calling the zombies and other Umbrella experiments "demons" and "monsters". It was really annoyingly inconsistent. Not funny, just complaining
- And in a similar vein for the PSX version, everyone insisting on referring to the mansion, and even the underground lab at one point, as a "house". Understatement much? note Same
- "Yeeees, SIR!", by Rebecca. Random quotes are not examples
- "Look at those MONSTERRRRS!" Let's face it: PS1-era Rebecca is a wellspring of Narm. Ditto
- This dialogue happens if you finish the game without saving Jill: Ditto
Rebecca: I'll hold back the mooooonsteeeeers!Chris: OK, I trust you.Rebecca: TRUST MEEEEE!!!!Chris: ... - Wesker's "Don't come this way! *gets stabbed* NO...!" Ditto
- Chris' truly terrible pun after killing Plant 42 with Rebecca's help: "So much for him! We got to the ROOT of that problem!" Rebecca, in what is perhaps the only moment in the 1996 original where the player can fully relate to her, does not laugh at this. Not a serious line
- Jill Valentine's "Watch out, it's a monster!" in the REmakenote had a certain cheesy appeal to it, if less so than the version in the original game. Too vague, the line makes perfect sense in the context it's said
- Even better is Barry's response to seeing the zombie in the alternate first zombie cutscene; "Get away from him, Jill! He's insane!" Even better, this secret cutscene appears in both the original and Remake versions of the game, and is almost identical! note Again, the line makes perfect sense given the context.
- And as pointed out in The Dark Id Let's Play: Martin Crackhorn. That poor bastard's name was Martin... Crackhorn! One can only imagine the amazing restraint Capcom showed in not making his first name Jimmy. I honestly have no idea what this is even talking about. It doesn't look like a serious moment, though
- This song for the Mansion's basement in the Director's Cut Dual Shock Edition is ridiculous, like a strange band of demented farting trumpets. Possibly So Bad, It's Good. Dead link, not a moment, complaining
- In the original, after you've killed the Hunter, Rebecca just stands up and leaves without even saying a word to Chris. Or, in case she's being attacked under the staircase of the first floor, she'll share this dialogue with him: A transcription of the dialogue without bothering to explain why it's unintentionally funny
Chris: We are in great danger, we must organize a search for the others... and get - the - HELL outta here. Understood?
Rebecca: Yeeeeeeeessss, sir!
Chris: Okay, I'll go first, proceed with your own judgement. Alright, can you do it?
Rebecca: (enthusiastically) Yes, I can!
Chris: (snickers) Good luck. - In Rebirth Mode in Deadly Silence, you have to fight Yawn three times. And the third and final fight in that mode is after Yawn already melted. Either the snake reformed itself, it had a twin or Umbrella had another in stock and it just so happened to wake up after the last one died. Fridge
Anddrix
Since: Oct, 2014
#1297: Apr 27th 2022 at 7:48:53 PM
Bringing up the following examples from Narm.Sword Art Online:
- Asuna's Titania avatar being barefoot (or at least with her barefoot sandal-like ribbons) makes sense from an aesthetic point of view, as fairies are often portrayed in art as unshod or even entirely unclothed. It is also clear that the designer of the avatar was trying to make her look sexy and delicate, and not to mention she is technically a captive. However, Sugou's Oberon avatar wearing sandals is another thing, given that he has to fight and look dominant due to his role in the arc, and instead he just looks goofy. Him soccer-kicking Kirito in the face with that very footwear looks hilariously more like out of a Magaluf tourist brawl than a High Fantasy videogame final fight.
- The fact that two adult and presumably professional neurologists working for Sugou go around ALO in purple, tentacled slug avatars for some reason, instead of using regular human/fairy forms like Sugou himself, is incredibly cartoonish and kitsch for what is meant to be a serious part of the plot. The light novel (where the slugs at least are grey in color, not gawdy purple as in the anime) even does a Lampshade Hanging by having Asuna wondering why would they have that appearance of all things.
- The additional fact that they immediately use their tentacles to grope a random female they find in their chambers is both trite and hysterical, in particular due to the undoubtedly lecherous yet weirdly restrained way they do it (they don't even grope Asuna despite how eager they appear, but rather get content with just strangling her and stretching her limbs). The whole scene could have passed as a lighthearted parody of tentacle anime from The '80s had the series not clearly tried to play it dead serious instead.
- Kirito vs barrier! As soon as Kirito learns that Asuna really is trapped at the top of the World Tree, he goes into a blinding rage and flies straight at the World Tree, where he promptly and repeatedly slams headfirst into the barrier put in place to prevent players from flying higher than a set height. The scene is supposed to show Kirito's despair that he had kept bottled up, but it's hard not to laugh at this display of watching Kirito smack his head pointlessly into an invisible wall.
- In Episode 22, during Kirito's first try to beat the World Tree battle. He starts having flashes of his memories with Asuna as he fights. Eventually, he starts calling Asuna's name in his mind again and again, sounding more and more desperate every time he says it. Yoshitsugu Matsuoka manages to turn this into a Heartwarming Moment in the Japanese version with his performance. Bryce Papenbrook in the English version, on the other hand, makes it unintentionally funny (which is a shame considering that apart from this moment, Papenbrook nailed the rest of the scene).
- Sugou sexually assaulting Asuna has been criticized as an ugly and exploitative moment, but this makes a stark contrast with what we actually see in the anime, which is a strange mix of offscreen censorship and deliberate inaction: after baring Asuna's chest, Sugou places his hands on her shoulders and then... he simply places them lower, out of the shot, without moving much or evoking a reaction from any of them. Similarly to the tentacle scene mentioned above, this instance really makes it look like the series is attempting to be both edgy and tame at the same time, and as a result, it comes not only as an amusingly awkward ratings stunt, but also as an offensively naive portrayal of sexual violence.
- The scene where Kirito frees Asuna from her chains, after killing Sugou in-game. It's meant to be a heartwarming reunion, but many fans can't get over the fact that Kirito hugs Asuna and cries on her shoulder while she's topless. Unlike similar scenes from other series, Kirito doesn't gives Asuna his jacket or any similar gesture, and the two of them don't seem to care about her state of undress. From the position Kirito is in, he's basically pressing his face against her bare boob.
- Kirito's visualization in the anime of Death Gun killing someone in real life through a game. That is to say, he imagines a bullet traveling through a phone line and then launching out of it to land square in the forehead of a victim. The fact that this moment is played completely seriously, complete with dramatic music swell, and as some sort of horrified idea of how dangerous the situation is on Kirito's part is a complete Mood Whiplash to how ridiculous it is.
- "The name I share with this weapon... Death Gun!" Yes, he named himself after his weapon, and it isn't a name you could say with a straight face. To be fair, this one applies mostly to native English speakers. For people of other languages, this doesn't have the same impact. Considering the original novel was first written in Japanese (but the name was written in English), with no plans for an English translation at the time it was created, it can be argued that this was a case where some Woolseyism was needed, but the localizers just chose not to.
- When Kirito and Sinon are theorizing on how Death Gun commits murders, Kirito figures out that there is more than one player behind him. So that when one Death Gun members them kills a player in-game the second Death Gun member kills the person in real life. This is immediately accompanied by visual symbolism of a scorpion killing a lizard. This motif is so ridiculous it completely flips the seriousness of the scene and invokes laughter. Even Bryce Papenbrook made fun of this bit in the bloopers.
TantaMonty
Since: Aug, 2017
#1298: Apr 28th 2022 at 5:49:21 AM
More cleaning of Resident Evil. Deleted examples:
Resident Evil 2/Remake
- It's a little hard to take a horror game seriously when it takes place in a town called Raccoon City. Not a moment
- The voice acting is not quite as bad as in the first game, but it's definitely not good. The worst may have been Sherry's line, "Daddy must have been caught by the monsters! I have to help him." The punctuation is not a mistake. She goes from panic in the first sentence, to flat in the second. Not funny, just a flaw
- Pretty much all of Sherry's lines. She's supposed to be 12, but sounds like a 5-year-old. General example, not funny, complaining
- The above Sherry-related narm doubles if you recognize her voice as that of Wanda from The Magic School Bus. Well, she certainly took chances, made mistakes, and got messy. Fan Myopia
- The second worst was Ada's fake death, if Leon is the second scenario. It's not so bad if Leon is the first scenario, but this one has Ada suddenly become the love interest. Complaining
"I'm just a woman...and in love with you...nothing more. **kiss** *dies*"
- From Ben's dying monologue: "Get...that...scum! Make...him...pay." And yes, like Sherry above, the punctuation isn't a mistake. Same as the previous example
- "Bitter irony...Chief of Police...Co-Conspirator!" - as Pat points out during the Best Friends playthrough, it almost sounds like the writers were doing their best to make a pun based on Chief Irons' name. Ditto
- Leon's "Hold your fire! I'm a human!" Random quotes are not examples
- "WHO ARE YA. WHAT ARE YA DOIN HERE." Same
- Even better is Kendo's pervy attitude towards Claire...in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. Same
"But don't you worry, girlie! You'll be safe in here. I'm keepin' a close eye on things." - "That guy's a maniac! WHAHDEBAHTME?!"note What's better, his tone sounding more irritated than terrified, or that he only looks at it, comments on it, then just forgets about it? The Dark Id puts it best: Lacks context, relies entirely on a single letsplayer's reaction
"This is said in the tone of mild curiosity as if to a address a minor discourtesy. Not "JESUS FUCK HE BIT OFF HALF MY BICEP!!" as, you know, anything within a fifty mile radius of realism would react. This is definitely Resident Evil..."
- Leon's entire post-gunshot wound diatribe in Claire's B route when she sees him: "Someone tried to kill me", when actually Annette was trying to shoot Ada, and Leon jumped into the line of fire and "Ada went after the sniper" when said "sniper" only had a dinky little handgun and was only a few feet away. Not funny, just a flaw in the dialogue
- Claire's monotone "There's a gun inside." Not enough context
- When William Birkin is gunned down by Umbrella Special Forces in Annette's flashback, she stops him to take care of the "bullet wound." Wound? he got shot, like, ''fifteen
- There's a gigantic, mutated alligator in Raccoon City's sewers, hyped up on the T-Virus and not even zombified yet. Except it makes absolutely no sense to be where it was, and just sort of pops up to give Leon/Claire something to deal with as a Puzzle Boss in their A scenarios. It is almost literally a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment since it just pops up with little warning beyond scaring Ada or blocking Claire off from an unconscious Sherry, and once half of its head is blown off, none of them never even make note of it. Fridge
- There is a diary you pick up in the police station that starts with "The police station was unexpectedly attacked by zombies. Many have been injured, more have been killed." What kind of a place do you live in where you can write this like it's an everyday occurrence? Complaining
- Even the beta, RE 1.5 isn't safe. Particularly G-William Birkin's roar of "Sherry!" when you fight him in the warehouse. It sounds nothing like a mutated person, just a bloke with a fair bit of liquid (that particularly ISN'T blood) in his mouth trying to say "Sherry." The idea of G-William screaming Sherry's name made it into the Darkside Chronicles retelling of RE2...where, though it now sounded a bit better, was still narmy as hell. About an unfinished version of the work
- In the police station, you can find a series of diaries written by a secretary, the last of which ends with a blank page. Pretty unsettling, until you think about it...why would you bring your personal diary to your workplace? And more importantly, why the hell in the world would you write "I know what the Chief is doing! If he finds out about it, I'm dead." on it and bring it to his workplace? Fridge Logic
- Who says she brought it there? Natter
- If you check Annette's corpse after she shoots Ada in Leon A, Leon will comment: "What made her do that?!". I don't know, Leon. Maybe Annette was on her period, maybe she was trying to kill a zombie behind you, or maybe Ada shouldn't have tried to steal something that killed her husband, mutated him, infected the entire city and had put her own daughter in danger. Way too complainy
- Claire about to administer the G antivirus to Sherry: "I have the antidote! If I give it to her..." What? WHAT?! WHAT'LL HAPPEN YOU STUPID-! Complaining
- The fact that throughout that whole scene, Leon literally has no idea what's going on with Sherry and when he asks, Claire brushes him off. Poor sod. Natter
- "Ada, Wait!" Random quote
- "ADA, WAIT!" Random quote
- "ADA, WAIT!"
- The cops preparing a welcome party to Leon's first day on the job is not so bad, but once you realize the game is supposed to take place in September 29th, 5 or 6 days after Raccoon City has been hit with a deadly virus, and then you see the preparations for said party scattered around, you can only imagine the real reason the police station all died wasn't because they lacked firepower, they all died because they spent the whole outbreak preparing Leon's recruitment party. Fridge
- The E3 trailer for the remake looks incredible and terrifying, as it opens with a rat's POV while it skitters through a dark storage room as a hapless cop meets with a fatal Not a Zombie encounter from just offscreen. Leon and Claire can be forgiven for that kind of a mistake because they both walked into the situation blind, but when you remember that by this point the outbreak has been well under way and the city has been overrun with zombies for quite some time, you realize this guy was obviously just Too Dumb to Livenote . Fridge
- For some reason Ada decides to wear a stereotypical Femme Fatale costume to a zombie infestation. While her dress and high heels might have some utility in her spy work (especially if she needed the sex appeal to give her a social edge), she freely wears them in the middle of a Zombie Apocalypse, which is laughably impractical. Those heels certainly won't help her outrun the living dead, and visibility would already bad enough if she weren't wearing Sunglasses at Night. Not a moment
- A pair of free Downloadable Content for the remake lets you play as Leon and Claire in their classic, polygonal models all the way back from the original game. This results in blocky mitten hands that can't hold anything accurately, no change in expression, and looking absolutely out of place next to all of the realistic looking environments and highly detailed characters. Want to destroy the seriousness of a scene? Bring in classic Leon with his ever-constant Fascinating Eyebrow as his face alone silently invokes a certain Memetic Mutation. Want to highlight some of the biggest graphical disparities in gaming yet? Put Leon in his '98 polygon cardboard model and Claire in one of her regular costumes. It's pure surrealism watching a gorgeously rendered human girl interact with a chunky PSX boy. Intended to be amusing
- When you encounter the G bursting out of Irons' body in the orphanage, Claire barely reacts to it, despite the angle it jumps out, meaning it'd go through her. After the cutscene, it's gone and gameplay resumes like nothing happened. Fridge
- When Leon is blaming Annette for the entire mess, she tries to defend herself by admitting she helped to create the viruses but she didn't want them to be used "like this". Even by the low standards of Just Think of the Potential!, one wonders what other applications the T-Virus and G-Virus could have besides nightmare monster apocalypses. Fridge
- One of G Form 4's attacks is him dive bombing the elevator like a wrestler. Doesn't explain what's funny about this attack
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis/Remake
- "He's after S.T.A.R.S. members! There's no escape!" Random quotes are not examples
- "All the foxy ladies love my accent. It drives 'em craaazy!" That is to say, when he even has one. Same
- The fact that you can encounter Nicholai after he gets caught in a gas station explosion is a bit silly. And so is the time he jumps out of a hospital window on the 4th floor. Unexplained Recovery
- In contrast to RE2's zombies groans sounding like they have a serious case of constipation, RE3's zombies groans all sound feeble, like they all have sore throats, or perhaps like Grandpa Simpson without his teeth. Fan Myopia. The sound effect is appropriate, considering it's coming from a creature whose larynx is literally rotten
- Carlos and Jill at the Gas Station: Transcription of the dialogue that doesn't bother to explain what's funny about this scene
Carlos: The zombies are coming!Jill: Hey, calm down!Carlos: Any objections to me playing hero this time?
- Nicholai's equivalent scene. He doesn't try to move the sparking cable out of the gasoline puddle, he doesn't make a run for it, he just stands there like a tit in a trance and gets blown up. And Jill somehow learns his name despite not hearing it at any point. And Nicholai survives all of this. Fridge, duplicate entry from above
- The fact that the game's attempt at adding romantic tension between Jill and Carlos extends to...Carlos boasting about his accent and Jill laughing him off. Nothing else. Not a serious moment, complaining over the fact They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot
- The ending scene of the game is truly spectacular for a Playstation game. Take a look. A nuclear missile swoops in and detonates, obliterating the city in scenes and an audio track that would feel right at home in The Day After or Threads. And then, at least in the ending where Carlos is piloting the chopper, it's all ruined by Jill's stilted emotionless And That's Terrible commentary (especially in the A ending): First half is too gushy, second half is complaining
That's it. I've had it. This time, they've gone too far.
- In the remake, the mutated Nemesis has been reimagined as a bestial four-legged beast still clad in the remains of his trenchcoat, and there's a single flap of coat on his ass which kind of just hangs and flops between his bare legs...which makes him look like he's wearing a loincloth or an oversized thong. Nightmare Retardant
- The latest trailer gives us a brief look at the redesigned second-form Nemesis, who looks appropriately hideous. However, his crouched positioning and weird-looking bone growths on his arms has the unfortunate effect of making him look like a giant chicken.
- For that matter, during the equivalent boss fight in the released game Nemesis' most powerful attack involves him scaling the top of the clock tower before backflip-rolling through the air. The lead-up to this move is also silly; him running across the arena on rooftops in a very telegraphed window for you to hit him with a Mine Round. After you pull this off a second or even third time it ends up making Nemesis look more than a little stupid. Tactical Suicide Boss
- Even Nemesis's first form is pretty goofy when you realize his redesigned mouth makes him look a bit like like Emperor Zurg. Fan Myopia
- Carlos' introduction in the remake is a legitimately badass moment, firing a pair of rockets at Nemesis to stop him from killing Jill... but of course, he couldn't resist a cheesy one-liner in the form of "Hey! Fuckface!" He sounds less like an elite special forces operative and more like a Joisey mob goon telling Nemesis "hey, hey, you want STARS, I've got your STARS right here, pal!" Complaining, example contradicts itself by stating the scene is still impressive despite the controversial line
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
- The original Code: Veronica was almost as bad as Resident Evil in terms of this. Code: Veronica X tried to trim it down. Key word being tried. General example
- Pretty much everything Steve says. General example
SHUT UP! I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT! (Uzis the living hell out of a wall)AAAAHHH! HELP MEEEEEEEE.
- This: ZCE
Claire: I'm Claire.Steve: Heh. Nice.
- Steve's infamous "FATHERRRRRRRRRRR!" Including wasting all of his ammo, his amazement that he did not shoot Claire by accident once, and his equally narmful cries afterwards. Lacks context
- That 'trimmed narm' from the Dreamcast version included Steve's screams being overlaid with the cries of a baby in this particular scene. Natter
- The way Claire has a tendency to emphasize words oddly is quite narmy, too. Just a flaw, general example
I need those! Give them to me.
- All the above Code Veronica moments were parodied in this Let's Play. Advertising a fan work
- Alfred Ashford's Nobleman's Laughs are truly creepy in their own strange way - but his goddamn girlish giggle ruins it. Sinkhole, complaining
- Alfred Ashford, in general. It's hard to project a convincing aura of evil menace when you sound exactly like Archibald Asparagus. Fan Myopia, general example
- In Alfred's introduction scene, he very clearly mispronounces his own name as Alford Ashford. Minor slip, not funny
- This is made even worse when one notes (or at least has a perverted mind) that Claire often looks like she's getting sexually assaulted when she's killed by a zombie/two zombies/a dog/a Bandersnatcher. Cut due to obvious disturbing implications
- Alexia loves hamming everything up. Especially where she's every last bit a stereotypical Saturday morning cartoon villainess. "You want it? YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF ITS POWAH!" Lacks context, too general
- The Wesker-Alexia brawl. Either the Dreamcast version hurts Wesker's viability not long after returning from death by having him get pimp smacked by Alexia, or the later versions hurt Alexia's viability as a mutated super villainess by having Wesker easily fight back and confound her. Cutscene Incompetence
- Reconcile the way Claire throws herself into the delivery of this "Eureka!" Moment like an amateur dinner theater actress with the fact that, by this point, she's already seen several files and a home movie confirming that, yes, at some point, there really was an Alexia. Fridge
- The game's intro. Yeah, there's some decent action to be gotten out of Claire evading an Umbrella attack chopper (even as it shoots up its own offices) and her standoff with an army of Umbrella grunts all training their higher-caliber guns on her...up until she drops her own pistol, and somehow manages to fall to the floor faster than her pistol can so she can grab it and blast some gas tanks behind the mooks. Yoooooooou lost us there. Compare that to how she controls in-game. Cutscene Power to the Max
- It really says something that Resident Evil: Apocalypse, a movie that spends its entire runtime desperately trying to convey a 12-year-old boy's idea of badass, saw no need to embellish this stunt to make it "cooler", and more-or-less copied it verbatim. That is how out-of-place the sequence is. Complaining and Natter
Edited by TantaMonty on Apr 28th 2022 at 6:04:30 AM
MisterApes-a-lot
Since: Mar, 2018
#1299: Apr 28th 2022 at 9:54:53 AM
- Fridge Logic-y
- Doesn't seem to be funny, just written as a complaint.
- Reads as just a complaint to me.
- Maybe fine?
- Low context on what makes it Narm. What makes it unintentionally funny?
- Just a complaint/bad writing.
- Reads as a Fridge Complaint to me.
- I guess fine
- Written as "thing falls flat". Also a lengthy Justifying Edit.
- I guess it's okay since someone else acknowledged that it's funny.
Snowy66
Since: May, 2012
#1300: Apr 29th 2022 at 5:07:30 AM
For this one:
- The scene where Kirito frees Asuna from her chains, after killing Sugou in-game. It's meant to be a heartwarming reunion, but many fans can't get over the fact that Kirito hugs Asuna and cries on her shoulder while she's topless. Unlike similar scenes from other series, Kirito doesn't gives Asuna his jacket or any similar gesture, and the two of them don't seem to care about her state of undress. From the position Kirito is in, he's basically pressing his face against her bare boob.
While it may need rewording, I can attest to the audience reaction. YouTube comments had numerous people laughing over Kirito hugging Asuna in that position while she's topless, and the complete lack of reaction from the both of them at what should be an awkward scene.
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I think that logic could be valid in an Elephant in the Living Room way.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.