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  • Acting in the Dark: The scene where Flash Face Plants in Wonder Woman's cleavage was filmed with Ezra Miller and a body double substituting for Gal Gadot. Gadot filmed her reaction shot at a different time and place (apparently without being told what scene she was filming it for) and the two shots were spliced together.
  • Actor-Shared Background: Barry mentions being Jewish as is Ezra Miller in real life.
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  • Awesome, Dear Boy: Ezra Miller was vocal from the start about how excited he was to play The Flash.
  • Billing Displacement: Despite not being part of the Team Title, Amy Adams (Lois Lane) is billed third behind Ben Affleck (Batman) and Henry Cavill (Superman) and above Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman), while Diane Lane (Martha Kent) is billed sixth after Jason Momoa (Aquaman) but above Ezra Miller (The Flash) and Ray Fisher (Cyborg).
  • Box Office Bomb: With a budget estimated at $300 million ($500 million counting marketing, interest expense, and residuals) Justice League is among the most expensive movies ever made,note  and so needed to gross a massive amount just to break even ($750 million at the highest estimate, $650 million at the lowest). It opened in a surprisingly competitive season on the release calendarnote  and its opening domestic weekend of $93.8 million, likely due to negative publicity from Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad and its notoriously troubled production, was only about half of the former and the lowest of any DCEU film thus far, combined with a lackluster promotional campaign and another critical backlash after a long embargo. Industry analysts are already predicting a $50 to $100 million net loss for Warner Brothers. The film has earned the dubious title of "the most successful box office bomb ever", as while its gross ($658 million) would be a nice success for a standard summer blockbuster with a production budget in the $140-180 million range, the power of the Batman and Superman brands plus the extremely inflated budget due to mandated reshoots led to far, far higher expectations than what were ultimately fulfilled, leading to the loss.
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  • Christmas Rushed: The movie was originally on track for its release date, but the absurd amount of problems in post-production that were induced by the mandated reshoots, as outlined under the Troubled Production section, resulted in a theatrically-released film that had botched special effects work. In fact, pushing back the film's release date was discussed, but studio executives forced the production to stick with the original release date (rumor has it they did because they had lucrative bonuses on the line). In comparison, Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice was pushed back nearly a year and was completed at least 6 months in advance. Wonder Woman had a similar leisurely post production.
  • Creator Backlash:
    • Joss Whedon apparently wasn't happy with how Steppenwolf turned out, as he liked a tweet that called him "the worst comic book movie villain of all time". It must be noted that the choice of Steppenwolf wasn't made by him but by Snyder, the writers, and other DC producers, and that the casting and work on his major scenes (i.e. his fight scenes with Amazons) was done before he came on-board, but with the caveat that the Warner Bros executives themselves were not particularly happy about Snyder using Steppenwolf either.
      • Ciarán Hinds was not happy that a lot of the work he did as Steppenwolf didn't make it to the theatrical version. Which means Whedon scrapped much of his character building and backstory, either by personal choice or because of the mandated 2-hours runtime. It's likely the reason why Steppenwolf calling the Unity "Mother" is left unexplained. Not helping either is the fact that a young Darkseid was originally intended to lead the first invasion of Earth and not Steppenwolf, which doesn't add up with the producers' complains about the character.
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    • Cinematographer Fabian Wagner has openly stated he was disappointed with how the theatrical cut turned out and has expressed his wish to see Zack Snyder's director's cut of the film. Ditto with Ben Affleck's stunt double Richard Cetrone. Zack Snyder's son Jett has also shared this, albeit he qualifies this by noting that the theatrical version is a good film and worth seeing on its own merits.
    • Zack Snyder seems to agree that Henry Cavill's CGI mouth doesn't work (he didn't film said scenes). On the social media Vero, he posted various stills of scenes that were cut out due to Executive Meddling. The lack of context and commentary implies some sort of Take That! towards Warner Bros. for what they did to his film. He also admitted having never seen the version that was released in theaters, confirming that Lex Luthor's line about the "League of our own" and the Russian family's scenes were not shot by him ("Honestly, what Russian family?").
    • In a video where he announced the shaving of his infamously troublesome mustache, Henry Cavill assured everyone that what they're seeing isn't CGI. The notorious screenshot of his Uncanny Valley mouth also flashed in the ending montage.
    • Jason Momoa wanted the "talk to fish" lines cut from the film, as he felt the tongue-in-cheek references to Aquaman's infamous reputation clashed with his and the production's attempts to make the character more badass.
    • When talking about his upcoming Netflix-produced film Army of the Dead, Zack Snyder said he "had no handcuffs on this one", no doubt referring to the Executive Meddling he had to face on Justice League.
    • Some people who worked on the film and are not tied to a non-disclosure agreement have expressed how disappointed they are that a large part of Snyder's work on the film has simply been scrapped and replaced by Whedon's additions, from storyboard artist Jay Oliva to stuntman Nick McKinless, photographer Clay Enos and actors JK Simmons and Ciarán Hinds.
  • Creator Breakdown:
    • After Zack Snyder's daughter tragically committed suicide during post production, he continued working on the film for about a month, but when reshoots were scheduled in England, he decided to step away from the project to spend time with his family. Joss Whedon took over as director and scriptwriter for those sequences.
    • Whedon himself hasn't had the best of times. Following his breakdown on Avengers: Age of Ultron due to Executive Meddling and subsequently leaving Marvel Studios, he divorced his wife Kai Cole in 2016, and then worked on Justice League, initially as a writer and then engaged as a director of re-shoots, tasked with shepherding the film through during post-production. And then, his ex-wife published an exposé claiming multiple infidelities and public hypocrisy, making it a very messy and public ruckus, which has also split his fanbase further. Whedon also stepped down from directing the Batgirl movie, citing story issues as the reason for his departure.
  • Deleted Role: A number of roles didn't make it to the theatrical cut due to the exec-mandated changes Joss Whedon brought following Zack Snyder's departure.
    • Iris West (Kiersey Clemons). Footage of her scene with unfinished CGI was leaked, showing Barry/Flash saving her from death in a car accident.
    • Elinore Stone (Karen Bryson) before her death. She still appears on a photo at the Stones' apartment in the theatrical cut. The special effects company that worked on Victor Stone's football match (deleted scene) shows her crying of joy after Vic scores a touchdown.
    • Scenes detailing Aquaman's backstory were cut as revealed by Jason Momoa when he was interviewed at the time of Aquaman's release. Momoa specifically said Aquaman picks up where one of the last scenes of the originally planned version of Justice League left off, with Mera and Nuidis Vulko (Willem Dafoe) coming at him to seek help against Orm.
    • Darkseid was set to appear, leading his troops to invade the Earth in ancient times to seek the Anti-Life Equation and having some more appearances in modern day. He was eventually replaced by Steppenwolf in the battle during the post-production, and the Anti-Life equation quest was scrapped. A portrait of him in an ancient crypt that Diana explores was later revealed by Zack Snyder on Vero, and it was also scrapped for the theatrical release version. He was to be voiced (or has been voiced) by actor Ray Porter.
    • Robin Wright is credited, and Antiope doesn't appear save for maybe a split-second shot during the charge against Steppenwolf in ancient times.
    • David Thewlis (Ares) is credited, but he doesn't appear either. Ares still appears, played by bodybuilder Nick McKinless during the brief (as in, truncated from the original version) ancient battle scene.
    • Ryan Choi aka The Atom was supposed to appear in at least one deleted S.T.A.R. Labs scene, portrayed by Ryan Zheng. Zack Snyder posted a set photo on Vero and confirmed it was indeed him. Choi's name still appears in the film as a Freeze-Frame Bonus.
    • Marc McClure (Jimmy Olsen from the Christopher Reeve Superman movies) was supposed to have a Remake Cameo as a cop during the Superman vs Justice League fight after Superman's resurrection. A part of it is visible in a Missing Trailer Scene.
    • Kevin Costner apparently had a scene as another vision Clark had of Pa Kent, and it was cut as well.
    • Among other rumored deleted characters, there's Tomar-Re and Kilowog.
  • Deleted Scene: A pretty sizeable number of scenes that were filmed by Zack Snyder have been cut when the film was modified in post-production under Joss Whedon, including the Missing Trailer Scenes below. Some scenes have been replaced by Whedon's reshoots also, to "brighten" them as much as possible and insert his dialogues (or, as some speculate, to try having him get a director credit per DGA rules like Richard Lester had when he took over Superman II — it didn't happen here).
    • One of these shows Clark returning to the Kryptonian ship, finding two new suits there: the long awaited black suit and a Kryptonian space suit similar to the ones worn by Zod and his crew when they explored abandoned Kryptonian outposts in Man of Steel.
    • One other is one of the Missing Trailer Scenes, specifically the most speculated upon trailer bit with a glass and water effect ala Jurassic Park and where Alfred greets someone with "they said you would come, now let's hope you're not too late". It confirms it was Superman coming to him all along.
    • A scene with Barry Allen saving Iris West from a car accident was leaked, and had unfinished special effects. The part with Barry destroying a window with the tip of his finger at high speed is a Missing Trailer Scene.
    • Victor Stone/Cyborg's backstory, including a football match before the accident that crippled him. It briefly appears as a Missing Trailer Scene, a VFX company released a few seconds of it (including Victor's mother Elinore crying of joy when he scores a victory for the GCU team) and there are set photos.
    • Victor projecting himself in a Nazi Germany setting in virtual reality, exploring it using a recreation of his bygone human body wearing his Gotham City University jacket. Again, some parts are Missing Trailer Scenes.
    • A Parademon landing outside the Stone family's apartment, with Cyborg hiding from it.
    • Another leaked scene with unfinished special effects shows Cyborg learning to fly on a rooftop.
    • The unearthing of Superman was reshot. The scene as originally shot included Wonder Woman and Aquaman in addition to Flash and Cyborg, and judging by the photo released by Zack Snyder on his Vero account, it looked more serious and solemn.
      • A leaked scene shows the League carrying Superman's coffin into the Flying Fox and Cyborg turning at the camera.
    • A photo shows Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Flash in a combat-ready stance in what looks like a fight taking place at S.T.A.R. Labs.
    • A behind-the-scene clip shows the League (with Superman) looking at something that produces lightnings.
    • Jason Momoa confirmed that the present-day parts of Aquaman start where Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League left off. He talked about a scene where Vulko and Mera come to Arthur in Iceland to convince him to return to Atlantis. He refuses, downs a bottle of booze and leaves in the back of a pickup truck.
    • A behind-the-scene shot from the October 2016 wrap-up video shows that there was a scene taking place at Wayne Manor. The "room for more" scene at Wayne Manor from the theatrical is a 2017 reshoot by Joss Whedon.
    • Stuntman Nick McKinless (who played Ares) confirmed that Darkseid led the invasion of Earth in ancient times, and that the Gods of Olympus battled him.
    • J. K. Simmons (Commissioner James Gordon) confirmed that many of the scenes he shot were not in the theatrically released cut. And he didn't take part to the reshoots.
    • Ciarán Hinds (Steppenwolf) was disappointed that a large part of his work didn't end up in the theatrical cut.
  • Dueling Works:
    • With Thor: Ragnarok. Both feature superheroes teaming up to save a world from a destructive deity who wears a horned helmet and is hell-bent on dominating said world. Bonus point for coming out just two weeks before Justice League. According to The Hollywood Reporter, the rivalry was taken very seriously by the WB corporate executives, who felt that a formerly B-level Marvel character like Thor outperforming a team of DC's A-listers like Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman would be a huge embarrassment. Ragnarok had a significantly better critical reception (92% Rotten Tomatoes score against Justice League's 40%) and box office performance ($853 million worldwide gross against Justice League's $656 million).
    • There's also the Arrowverse crossover: Crisis on Earth-X. The Nazi Regime of Earth-X mounts an attempted invasion of Earth-1 and the heroes of Team Flash, Team Arrow, The Legends, plus heroes from Earth-38 and one hero from Earth-X - the Ray unite to stop them. While the crossover had its own flaws (mainly regarding Romantic Plot Tumor and Ending Aversion), it was overall far better received than Justice League.
    • Netflix released The Punisher (2017) the same weekend, featuring the Breakout Character from the second season of Daredevil (2015).
  • Dyeing for Your Art:
    • Jason Momoa dyed part of his hair blonde for his role as Aquaman, and had to spend hours doing the tattoos in his arms. Ultimately, he said it helped him get in the role easier than Ezra Miller's "pajamas" (given most of the Flash's costume is digital).
    • While ultimately averted, it was initially thought that J. K. Simmons went through an extensive training routine for what's apparently going to be an incredibly buff Gordon. He later clarified that it was a personal decision made years ago to take better care of himself and not related to his role as Gordon.
  • Executive Meddling:
    • Due to the backlash against Batman v. Superman, WB exerted much more control this time. This included a mandatory runtime of under two hours (despite Snyder's previous two DC movies being longer than 2 hours, and such runtime being common in superhero filmsnote ) and making sure that the tone was lighter and less depressing, even though Snyder maintains the latter was always part of his plan. He pointed out that it was always going to be light-hearted since The Flash was going to be in the team, although the humor that was eventually added to the film clearly has Joss Whedon's thumbprint.
    • Reshoots were decided upon, and Joss Whedon was hired to write them with Snyder originally said to direct it. But then Snyder pulled out to spend time with his family after the loss of his daughter, and Whedon directed these reshoots, which were initially reported to be minor but ultimately proved to be extensive. Many scenes of the principal photography were scrapped, most of Superman's and Steppenwolf's scenes are reshoots, the digital colour grading was brightened up, Junkie XL's soundtrack was ditched and replaced by that of Danny Elfman, and additional scenes, mostly close-ups and inserts, were added in.
  • Fan Nickname:
    • In light of the workout regimen that J. K. Simmons placed himself under, some have affectionately called his take on the character "Gym Gordon".
    • "Josstice League" is used by many DCEU fans to deride the changes made by Joss Whedon to the film out of Executive Meddling after Zack Snyder left.
  • Follow the Leader: Some of Warner Bros' executives pushed for this movie to be more like The Avengers, allegedly bringing in Avengers director Joss Whedon for rewrites and reshoots.
  • I Knew It!:
    • Fans correctly figured out that once Deathstroke had a diminished role in the Arrowverse, he would be used in the DC Extended Universe instead. However, very few imagined that his debut would be in this movie.
    • Some "Snyder Cut" advocates theorized that Darkseid was replaced by Steppenwolf in the ancient times battle scene of the theatrical version of the film. They were proven correct when the stuntman who played Ares confirmed he and the other Olympian gods originally fought against Darkseid, and when Snyder himself shared a screenshot of Uxas/Darkseid leading the invasion (the very same shot from the theatrical version has Steppenwolf, which means the upper body of Darkseid has been turned into that of Steppenwolf when the movie was reworked) on Father's Day 2019.
  • Jossed:
    • In June 2016, rumors of Justice League being subtitled either United, Angels and Demons, Gods Among Us, or Gods Among Men swiftly spread on various websites. Just hours later, Geoff Johns declared on Twitter that the title is just Justice League.
    • There was some confusion about Justice League Part Two being cancelled after this dropped the Part One subtitle, but later reports clarified that it isn't - both movies are going to be standalone stories instead of one story in two parts, as was widely assumed and reported. Producer Deborah Snyder (Zack's wife) later said the latter option was never actually planned in the first place, suggesting that the "Part 2" label was only there as a formality.
    • It was consistently believed Darkseid would be the Big Bad of the film, but it turns out he will instead be the Greater-Scope Villain to Steppenwolf.
      • Clear evidence (most of them provided by Zack Snyder himself) later surfaced that Darkseid was to have a significant role in the film. He was entirely scrapped save for a mention of his name in the theatrical cut during the infamous post-production.
    • Back during the filming of Batman v. Superman, an early report stated that Commissioner Gordon was dead in the DCEU. The casting of Simmons confirmed that this is false, including any assumption that the casting is for flashbacks, as the first official trailer shows Gordon meeting with Batman and the League.
    • Many believed Superman would wear his famous black suit after his resurrection, to the point a How It Should Have Ended parody was so sure of it that it depicted him using it. It didn't happen.
    • Rumors started surfacing after a Mashable article was tweeted alleging that Zack Snyder had been fired as opposed to leaving of his own volition. These rumors have been debunked. He was still actively working on edits until May 2017, and decided to leave when he had the choice between spending much needed time with his family after his daughter's suicide and altering his movie with mandated reshoots and new scenes.
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  • Milestone Celebration: 2017 is the centennial of Jack Kirby's birth, and the New Gods / Fourth World series makes their cinematic premiere in this film (Steppenwolf, the Parademons and the Mother Boxes are all his creations). This would make Justice League the fifthnote  and last superhero film in the same year to feature Kirby's creations and co-creations, and the only one from DC Comics. Fittingly, the film came out two weeks after Thor: Ragnarok, and Kirby often mentioned that he envisioned the Fourth World as the Spiritual Successor to his work on The Mighty Thor.
  • Missing Trailer Scene: A lot of moments of the trailers didn't make it to the theatrical version. Among these:
    • Bruce and Diana discussing about Aquaman ("More 'more' or more 'less'?").
    • Wonder Woman's bracers' shockwave breaking the windows of the Old Bailey court and policemen and rescue services taking cover.
    • A dialogue between Bruce and Diana: "They said the age of heroes would never come again." "It has to."
    • Bruce looking at a hologram of Superman (or a hologram of Superman's costume).
    • The activation of the Mother Box of the Stone family in their apartment.
    • Shots of Mera moving underwater.
    • Victor Stone before his accident, during a football match and walking in a street with his GCU jacket. The latter is actually part of a Deleted Scene in which Cyborg projects himself in a Nazi Germany setting in virtual reality, using a recreation of his bygone human body to explore it. The trailer itself replaced the Nazi swastika banner with a yellow banner with another symbol.
    • Barry Allen breaking a window with the tip of his finger. (it's part of the Deleted Scene in which he saves Iris West from a car accident)
    • Steppenwolf's "No protectors here. No Lanterns, no Kryptonian" quote.
    • The All Myths Are True moment between Cyborg and Batman ("I'm real when it's useful").
    • Wonder Woman's "We don't engage alone, we do this together!".
    • Batman tossing Aquaman his trident.
    • Cyborg saving a cop by stopping a thrown humvee with his shoulders.
    • Cyborg saving people by blasting debris that were falling on them.
    • Flash making a prayer-like gesture with his hands.
    • The "I'll take that as a yes. The ring." quote between Clark and Lois.
    • Flash using his speed to dodge a Parademon's blaster fire and make the Parademon crash through metal doors.
    • Alfred's "They said you would come. Let's hope you're not too late!" scene.
  • Never Trust a Trailer:
    • The October 2017 trailer was edited to make the viewer believe Lois is dreaming of Clark. It's actually the scene where he comes back at the Kent farm.
    • It's safe to say that the huge number of Missing Trailer Scenes (going all the way back to the 2016 SDCC clip) tells us that the movie was supposed to be way different before the reshoots happened.
  • The Other Darrin:
    • Ares briefly appears in the flashback showing Steppenwolf's first invasion of Earth, played by bodybuilder and stuntman Nick McKinless. He was played by David Thewlis in Wonder Woman.
    • Yoshimasa Hosoya replaces Chikahiro Kobayashi as the Flash in the Japanese dub.
    • Thierry Desroses replaces Jean-Paul Pitolin as Silas Stone for the French dub.
  • The Other Marty: A non-acting example; Junkie XL was at one point onboard to write and compose the music for the film, having previously worked on Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. But on June 2017, Danny Elfman was announced to have replaced him as the soundtrack's composer.
  • Playing Against Type:
    • J. K. Simmons, best known for playing the superhero-hating J. Jonah Jameson (as well as voicing the equally-untrusting of superheroes General Wade Eiling), plays the superhero-allied Commissioner Gordon here.
    • While Ciarán Hinds is no stranger to villainous roles, playing Steppenwolf (a motion-capture character in a big-budget superhero movie) is a bit of a different turn for him, given he's mostly known for his work as a character actor on the stage and television.
  • Re-Cut: The theatrical version is a mixture of Snyder shots from principal photography in 2016 that were in his assembly cut, and Whedon shots from the summer 2017 reshoots. Some Snyder shots used in it were repurposed from other scenes and put in a different order such as the brief shot on Clark Kent's grave in the "Everybody Knows" opening. It was initially intended to be the Justice League coming in the cemetery with a van to unearth Clark later in the film, hence car headlights lighting it in the middle of the night.
  • Sending Stuff to Save the Show: A rather unusual movie example. A fan movement arose after the theatrical release with social media activity, petitions, phone calls and letters aiming at getting a director's cut of the film released, with all the scrapped footage that Zack Snyder filmed and devoid of the infamous Joss Whedon reshoots. It gained momentum in the two years that followed the theatrical release with reveals regarding the extent of the executive-enforced changes and unseen material, notably photos shared by Snyder on the social media Vero. Snyder himself revealed that there is a cut with what he filmed, even a bunch of them, and that it's up to the studio to release it. So far, Warner Bros. has remained completely silent on the subject.
  • Separated-at-Birth Casting: Ezra Miller and Billy Crudup are strikingly similar in appearance which makes them very believable as father and son.
  • Show Accuracy/Toy Accuracy:
  • Spoiled by the Merchandise:
    • The first group poster of the entire League with Superman was revealed for movie theater promotions like popcorn buckets (an early group image was shown for Comic Con 2016, but actual posters left him absent).
    • The first images of the Big Bad Steppenwolf were Lego figurines and (accurate) action figures.
    • Averted in one case. The movie's action figure line from Mattel showed Superman wearing a black costume, causing a number of outlets to speculate that Superman would sport his black resurrection outfit from The Death of Superman after his return. In the actual movie, he does not wear a black costume, even after being revived. He does find a black suit in a Deleted Scene, but doesn't put it on.
  • Throw It In!: Aquaman shaking his hair like a surfer after riding a parademon through a building was intended as a joke by Momoa, the "shampoo commercial" take. He was amazed they went with it.
  • Troubled Production: In the wake of the mixed to negative reception to Batman v. Superman, Warner Bros. reorganized the DCEU production team in a major way, tightening their leash on Zack Snyder in an attempt at course correction. And sure enough, with the scheduled release date being just a year later, the result was chaotic, in-between throwing out the original script so that the Darker and Edgier wouldn't frustrate audiences and critics again, giving up on making a two-parter and just going for a standalone, endless reshoots which cost a lot and three of the main actors being busy elsewhere (Ezra Miller in Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Jason Momoa in Aquaman and Henry Cavill in Mission: Impossible – Fallout — leading to an infamously botched CGI job to digitally erase the moustache the latter grew for that movie) and at a certain point had Joss Whedon (who had already been brought in for rewrites given he struck gold making the Marvel equivalent) taking over as Snyder chose to take a leave to spend time with his family after his daughter committed suicide (his daughter died in March 2017, he worked on his principal photography's post-production until May, then decided to call it quits just as the mandated reshoots were about to begin, hence Whedon replacing him), and a rushed post-production that forced Danny Elfman to get to work just a day after being hired and hastily score to the film's storyboards instead of filmed footage.
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  • What Could Have Been:
    • Bryan Cranston was initially offered the part of Commissioner Gordon before J. K. Simmons was cast. Cranston previously voiced the character in Batman: Year One.
    • Laurence Fishburne was supposed to reprise his role as Perry White (likely for just a cameo, as he was supposed to have only one day of filming), but he couldn't due to a scheduling conflict. He wound up jumping ship to Marvel Studios and playing Bill Foster in Ant-Man and the Wasp.
    • The film was originally going to be a Movie Multipack, with the first movie being Justice League: Part I and the 2019 sequel being Justice League: Part II. Perhaps due to the increasing backlash against Movie Multipacks, the subtitles were dropped, and Zack Snyder assured fans that both movies would be complete, standalone films that happened to feature the same characters.
    • Before Justice League became a movie as part of the DCEU, there were other attempts to bring the team to the screen:
      • There was a pitch for a Justice League movie given by George Miller. The movie, called Justice League: Mortal, would not have been attached to any other continuity (though it would've featured an appearance by Michael Gough as Alfred Pennyworth, reprising his role from the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher Batman film series). The film would have featured Armie Hammer as Batman, D.J. Cotrona as Superman, Megan Gale as Wonder Woman, Common as Green Lantern, Adam Brody as the Flash, Anton Yelchin as Kid Flash, Santiago Cabrera as Aquaman, Hugh Keays-Byrne as the Martian Manhunter, Teresa Palmer as Talia al Ghul, and Jay Baruchel as Maxwell Lord, the movie's Big Bad. The plot would have involved Maxwell Lord trying to use his army of OMACs to conquer the world. A major writer's strike from 2007-2008 (combined with the success of The Dark Knight) killed the project, which remained dormant until the DCEU gained momentum. To show that there's no hard feelings, Miller is a producer of this movie. (Megan Gale and Hugh Keays-Byrne would later appear in Miller's film Mad Max: Fury Road as the Valkyrie and Immortan Joe.)
      • Had Superman Lives (the potential Superman movie that would have infamously featured Nicolas Cage in the title role) not been canned, it would have led to a Tim Burton-directed Justice League.
    • One wonders how the film would have turned out had Zack Snyder not left the post-production work (or had Executive Meddling not reworked the film, more exactly). Months after the movie came out, Snyder started posting behind-the-scenes photos on the social media Vero and sometimes answering questions about the originally intended version of the film. He stated he didn't see the theatrically released version and doesn't know about things like the Russian family, Barry Allen's obsession with "brunch", Lois being brought to calm Superman down after his resurrection, the 'crystal roots' summoned by the Unity and Lex Luthor's "league of our own" line. He also commented on the removal of Henry Cavill's mustache with CGI, stating "We all know that doesn't work". What's most notable is seeing how different a number of his scenes were to the intended final product, including scenes with clearly different locations than what was shown in the theatrical version, in addition to the numerous missing trailer scenes, deleted scenes and leaked VFX reels. It all went on to prove once and for all that the reshoots were extensive and did not stick to his original plans.
      • Ditto for Junkie XL, who was replaced by Danny Elfman for the soundtrack.
      • Much of the original teasing in Batman v. Superman was rendered an Aborted Arc due to the changes ultimately made to Justice League, and it's unclear how they would have played out had things gone according to plan. It is rumored that the original plan was indeed to stretch the plot out over two films (despite Word of God claims to the contrary), with Darkseid appearing as the villain of the second installment and Batman dying.
      • In an interview, Ciarán Hinds describes Steppenwolf's motivations as much more sympathetic than they ended up being in the finished product. Instead of an exile who wanted to conquer Earth so he could return home, Steppenwolf was Darkseid's slave, and he conquered other planets for Darkseid because it was the only way he could earn his own freedom.
      • On his podcast, Kevin Smith confirmed that the ending of the movie was originally supposed to feature Darkseid (played by Ray Porter), who would've executed Steppenwolf for his failure. He then would've expressed a desire to go to Earth and meet "the Kryptonian," seemingly setting him up to be the villain of a hypothetical sequel. A piece of storyboard added more weight to this.
      • Cinematographer Fabian Wagner confirmed that scenes featuring Superman's black suit were filmed, but ultimately ended up on the cutting room floor.
      • According to a VFX artist who worked on the film, one of the post-credit scenes was originally going to be a tease for the Green Lantern Corps film, with Kilowog and Tomar-Re arriving on Earth and meeting Bruce Wayne.
    • Zack Snyder has said that Bruce was supposed to gift Barry with a new, more professional looking costume at the end of the film. However, the suit itself would not have been shown, as to allow the creative team of the upcoming Flash film to reveal the new costume themselves.
    • Concept arts showed that Aquaman was intended to have his iconic suit, and he ended up wearing a golden/green Atlantean battle suit in the film. The iconic suit was introduced in Aquaman instead. The reason behind this has probably something to do with the above, that is letting James Wan reveal the suit in his film.
    • A planned scene about Batman investigating a Parademon nest in which cocooned humans are turned into Parademons was vetoed by studio executives for being "too scary". This likely would have resulted in Batman pushing forward to recruit other members of the Justice League. Instead, it was replaced by the scene Joss Whedon filmed with Holt McCallany.
    • At a 2019 Q&A, Snyder confirmed that the original script for the movie was never filmed, as it was scrapped following the negative critical reactions to Batman v Superman. Snyder's initial version of the movie would've followed up on the "Knightmare" scene from BVS by showing a future Earth where Superman had turned evil after being exposed to the Anti-Life Equation, with only a few members of the League (including a "broken" Cyborg) left alive. Batman would've sent Flash back in time to try and warn Bruce that Lois was the key to preventing Superman from falling from the light, fully explaining the Flash's BVS cameo. In one of the film's darkest moments, Darkseid would've Boom Tube'd his way into the Batcave and murdered Lois Lane.
  • Word of St. Paul: Storyboard artist Jay Oliva, who's worked on many comic book movies, confirmed that a "Snyder Cut" does exist, even if some VFX sequences were not completed.
  • You Look Familiar:
    • Samantha Jo played Car-Vex, one of the Kryptonian invaders in Man of Steel. She plays the Amazon named Euboea in Wonder Woman and Justice League.
    • The female art thief whose plan Wonder Woman foils was played by Caitlin Burles, who previously portrayed an Amazon in Wonder Woman.

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