We don't want to clog this thread since Surprisingly Realistic Outcome is an Overdosed Trope. Before posting here, check if the example you're analyzing qualifies for summary deletion from the three criteria below by keeping this trope's rigorous definition in mind.
- Does the example involve Applied Phlebotinum (Functional Magic, Science Fiction, Artistic Licence) or a character reaction? If so, it instantly violates the definition's second bullet point's realism requirements, and you should delete it without question.
- Is the example a Discussed Trope or an instance of Conversational Troping? If so, it violates the definition's third bullet point's emphasis on only counting outcomes, and you should delete it without question.
- Considering the definitions, would the example qualify better for Deconstructed Trope or Deconstructed Character Archetype from the trope page's rules? If so, move it to the appropriate one on the spot.
If the example survived all three tests, it satisfies the second and third bullet points, so you don't need to change it immediately. If you feel like it meets the first bullet point's requirements for being surprising, you can leave it. However, if you believe it doesn't meet the first bullet point or aren't sure, talk it over in the cleanup thread before deciding.
Many Stock Phrases you'll see used in this thread describe a particular type of misuse:
- Not surprising. — The outcome described isn't a Bait-and-Switch and merely follows expected genre conventions.
- Plot happens. — The example merely describes an event or series of events but not why we would expect something different.
- Too fantastical. — The causes/outcome described included the presence of stuff Impossible in Real Life such as Applied Phlebotinum, Functional Magic, or Science Fiction, meaning they're too unrealistic by default.
- No character reactions. — The outcome involves a character reacting in a certain way or having certain emotions, which we can't gauge the realism of because people's emotional reactions vary far too much.
- Not realistic. — Exactly What It Says on the Tin, but this one requires you to write a short description for why it isn't realistic.
- Too implausible. — The outcome describes an outcome that happened because of things too unlikely to count as relatively realistic compared to what they were subverting.
- Cuttable ZCE. — Exactly What It Says on the Tin.
- Not an outcome. — The example is either a Discussed Trope, Lampshade Hanging, Conversational Troping, or happens over too much time to be momentary.
- Too unclear. — The example is too convoluted or obtuse to judge.
- Irrelevant. — The example describes stuff utterly irrelevant to the definition of SRO.
- Bad indentation. — Exactly What It Says on the Tin.
A big thing I've noticed is that it's often used for anything remotely realistic, or something that's realistic but doesn't necessarily affect the story. Another problem is that the trope seems to be cherry-picked, where any instance of reality ensuing is put there, as well as when another trope could serve the example better.
Problematic examples from one sample page, SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome.Disney Animated Series:
"Despite his attempts Wander can't make friends with Dominator who constantly rebuffs his friendly gestures throughout season 2. Even at the end of everything, she still refuses. Sylvia even lampshades it, telling him some people are just like that."
"Spider-Man's fight against Sandman and Rhino, where Spidey uses Rhino's weight against him. rather than fighting him directly."
"Beshte gets sunburns all over his body and is easily exhausted while he is lost in the Outlands. Justified due to the fact that hippos need water to survive to avoid sunburn and overheating."
"It's heavily implied that being the leader of the Lion Guard has taken a toll on Kion's social and private life."
"Milo Murphy's Law is about a boy named Milo Murphy whose entire life is centered around Murphy's Law. In another cartoon, being The Jinx would cause people to be afraid of them, resulting in an unsocial lifestyle. That does not apply here. While everyone does watch their step around Milo, they do not hate him for it. Being The Jinx does, however, give everyone Paranoia Fuel, given that Murphy's Law can happen at any time, so chances are you might need insurance, a phone in case of emergencies, among other things. Milo himself (as well as his friends Melissa and Zack) just learned to adapt to his condition, being prepared for anything. He has lived with Murphy's Law his entire life after all. That being said, that does not mean that they don't panic all the time. Examples include Milo panicking over his monthly doctor's note, and Melissa panicking over riding a rollercoaster with Milo."
" Hiro is initially not allowed to use Tadashi's former lab, as it can only be accessed by upperclassmen who earned the privilege. Subverted in the second half of the pilot when Professor Granville decides Hiro using the lab would benefit him. On a related note regarding Granville, she is tough, but fair when interacting with the students. She might be, as Wasabi describes "a hard case", but Granville being a complete sadist and picking on Hiro would be unrealistic. She is actually a decent person."
-Edited with permission from the OP-
Edited by lalalei2001 on Aug 10th 2022 at 5:47:25 AM
- Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest: Norrington gives Jack a Mercy Lead of one day in the first film. This film shows that the head start was a really bad idea: Norrington ends up in horrible situations (including a hurricane) because he was a day behind the Black Pearl, who outran said dangers by being a day ahead. It also shows the consequences of Norrington giving him a head start and then failing to catch him: he's demoted and disgraced. Plot happens
- The Italian Job (2003):
- It shows what happens when you want to make a quick escape with cars through the streets of a busy city. You will encounter red lights, traffic jams and other obstacles. Cue the counter-plan. Valid
- Safe-cracking isn't a quick and dirty job. Although the team is able to quickly acquire the safe, Stella nearly breaks the glass failsafe with a drill on her first attempt and later has to crack it using the dial, working methodically and charting multiple tumbler combinations before being able to open it. This unfortunately buys Steve and his men enough time to double back and chase them down. Valid
- When Steve attempts a Helicopter Blender on Charlie's mini, the tail rotor is destroyed and his helicopter is grounded. Valid
A bunch of fantastical examples were added to the main page. I removed them
- In Not That Kinda Fired is mentioned that Eraserhead is not a Hero anymore since Izuku's first year in UA in general education, and was in fact arrested for Abuse of Authority, Quirk Discrimination, Neglect and Manslaughter. Later the author explained it's a direct consequence of his habit of canceling the Quirk of whoever he deems isn't trying their best during the Quirk Assessment Test and refusal to read his students' files until after the Sports Festival... Including the student with a possession Quirk that had been in a horrific accident and was basically possessing his own body to stay alive and had his file warning Eraserhead to not cancel his Quirk. Having failed to read both file and warning, during the Quirk Assessment Test Eraserhead decided the student wasn't trying his best and erased his Quirk, leading to the student's death and investigation of all of Eraserhead's past antics.
- Frankenweenie; During the climax of the film, Nassor decides to pit his reanimated hamster against Toshiaki's giant reanimated turtle, and it immediately gets crushed due to the massive size difference.
- In Questionable Content, Artificial Limbs are common. One secondary character has a robotic hand but doesn't wear the standard fake skin covering on it because he's a massive technophile and likes showing it off. His hand eventually breaks down because the skin is not just aesthetic but is also supposed to protect the delicate mechanisms from dirt and grit.
It's clear most people think this trope is still "Reality Ensues", and they also think that "reality" means the show's reality rather than the viewer's.
Edited by Someoneman on Oct 16th 2022 at 9:54:47 AM
I don't think the Italian Job entries are valid. It fails the "surprising" criterion. These are plot issues, built into the narrative as obstacles for the characters to overcome and to create suspense for the audience. The point of SRO is that the outcome has to up-end the expected narrative in a surprising and realistic way. If you're going to have a car chase through the streets involving criminals who include a tech-expert and hacker on the team, you're going to expect exactly what happened. I mean, car chases involving hacked traffic lights was a very common plot element even before IJ 2003 came along. The same with the safe; it's an extremely common narrative for the safe-cracking scene to throw obstacles, stakes and suspense into the scene to make it seem like the safe-cracker isn't going to make it.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.OK, good point. Just removed them along with the Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest one.
So, now that the Live-Action Film's subpage has been shortened, can the examples be moved onto the SRO's main page?
Edited by CelestialDraco on Oct 16th 2022 at 5:44:41 AM
I actually think the Questionable Content one can stay. Prosthetic limbs are real so it's not a particularly fantastic thing and often in stories where prosthetic limbs are shown they are usually unskinned because Rule of Cool with no issues arising.
Looking at the example, I’m not sure it’s a singular outcome that happens all at once. Plus the robotics seem more advanced than real life prosthetic limbs.
it taking a long time makes it more realistic. Not sure if "slightly more advanced but still in theory possible in our world" counts as too fantastical; someone else would need to explain that one
I don't see "The skin is intrinsically part of the designed protective structure" as inherently more realistic than "The skin is just a cosmetic overlay". Depending on design and engineering philosophies, I could see either existing, even with our current tech.
That being said, the fact that it was said to happen “eventually” means it happens over too much time to be momentary, which would mean it’s not an outcome, as listed in the pinned notes at the top.
It is a moment — he goes in for repairs for an unrelated thing, and is told about the wear and tear and its cause. That said, I'm still not sure it counts. There are robot characters with visible joint seams, and they seem fine.
Based on the image, the prosthetic seems much more advanced than real life prosthetics.
Decided to tackle the examples on The Walking Dead trope page (S-Z).
- Surprisingly Realistic Outcome:
- Automobiles are no longer used as of Season 9. After years of an apocalypse, what fuel is left has evaporated or gone bad and cars are no longer functional (doubly so after the second time skip, which places the show 10 years into the apocalypse). Horses and carts are the main means of transport, as they don't require expensive and degradable fuels and for the most part, are very quiet. “Scars” amusingly shows a horse-drawn cart made out of the shell of a car. The only motorized vehicles remaining are those that can run on ethanol, such as motorbikes. Ethanol can be made from corn, which isn't difficult to grow. - Plot happens, also not a moment.
- In "Days Gone Bye", Rick fires a gun in a tank and spends about the next minute stunned with a loud ringing in his ears. Also an aversion of Steel Eardrums. In Season 3, he remembers this, and asks Michonne and Carl to cover their ears before he kills some walkers at close range with his python. - Valid, though it IS mentioned that Steel Eardrums is averted, so may be culled nonetheless.
- In "This Sorrowful Life", Merle successfully hotwires a car. Then the alarm goes off, attracting a bunch of walkers. - Valid.
- In "Welcome to the Tombs", the Governor's impromptu army attacks the prison, blowing up guard towers with a grenade launcher and shredding walkers with machine guns. Then, the moment they're fired upon, they react how you'd expect a barely-trained, inexperienced group of people to react. - Character Reaction.
- Rick did the right thing in pleading for The Governor and his militia to join the prison community, but some people, like The Governor, are too selfish to change their ways, and it results in Hershel and many more getting killed. - Character Reaction.
- Tyreese refusing to kill Martin, as well as the group voting to not finish off any survivors of the Terminus battle, results in a group of psychopathic cannibals on their trail. - Character reaction.
- Speaking of Terminus... putting up signs inviting any and everyone during the apocalypse predictably leads to bad people showing up to take advantage. - Plot happens.
- A single second of distraction will kill you, ask Tyreese. - ZCE pothole.
- Some people just aren't cut out to survive in the new world. Rick cites this as the reason he didn't kill Carter when he tried to lead a coup against him, saying he'll probably get killed soon anyway. He's proven right literally the next day. - Character reaction.
- Carol is one of the toughest members of the group, in terms of doing what needs to be done. But, when she goes up against the larger, stronger Morgan in hand to hand combat after losing her weapons, she does as well as you would expect the much slimmer woman to do and she gets knocked out. - Maybe Valid, though on the other hand may come off as little surprise.
- When Rick meets up with Morales (who is now a Savior), you would expect a bigger role for the latter, right? Nope, Daryl still arrives a shoots an arrow into Morales's eye, instantly killing him. Just because he was a returning character from Season 1, it doesn't excuse the face that he joined the bad guys, and is just like every other Savior that needs to be killed. Even Rick acknowledges this, though both men are visibly saddened that their former comrade turned traitor. - Valid.
Daryl: I know who it was. Don't matter. Not one little bit.- If you don’t clearly outline your objectives and boundaries before going into a conflict, it will lead to a lot of floundering, infighting, and general problems. It was apparently never established to Jesus that the Savior War was one of extermination, thus he takes numerous Saviors as POW’s and strains Hilltop’s already low supplies providing for them. At least five Alexandrians also openly deviate from Rick’s plan, and it almost causes the heroes to lose the war. - Sounds more like Deconstruction than SRO.
- Rick and Michonne decide to honor Carl's dying wishes and lead the communities into a new era of peace. While they are largely successful and enjoy unprecedented prosperity, there is still a lot of leftover resentment that people have either struggled or failed to properly deal with. Their choice to spare Negan also creates a lot of problems, since numerous people still want him dead, and some holdouts seek to return their former despot to power. Much of early Season 9 revolves around Rick and Michonne realizing that their idealistic approach is not working as well as they had hoped. - Plot happens.
- The pike massacre of late Season 9 surely was only an invitation for the communities to mount a Roaring Rampage of Revenge, right? Wrong. With Alpha having a positively monstrous horde at her command and one of the communities on the verge of collapse from failing crops and infrastructure, and the remaining communities simply not having the numbers or weapons to deal with such a horde... they are forced to accept it, obey Alpha's orders, and simply hope that she doesn't change her mind. - Plot happens.
Any form of feedback is appreciated.
Edited by DukeNukem4ever on Oct 17th 2022 at 1:50:43 AM
again, does "more advanced than real life" actually inherently meet the "too fantastical" criteria for cuttung? I feel like the advancement has to be extremely sci-fi.
Then again I guess there's AI so maybe it doesn't count after all.
Since Questionable Content contains sci-fi elements, it's not objectively realistic that prosthetic technology in that setting hasn't yet advanced to the point that wearing fake skin is necessary to keep them working well. We can't say for sure "if we had these in real life, this is how they'd work."
Making another post since it's been a few days without activity here. I'd like more opinions on the Dan Vs. example, although it's almost certainly misuse.
- Dan Vs.:
- In "The Parents", Dan engages in an epic fight with the hippies to save the kid he bonded with from being adopted by them. Then the adoption agency lady arrives with a cop and tells him that his background check disqualifies him from adopting the kid. Dan lets the kid go back to the hippies, but not before making him promise to steal from them at every possible opportunity. Not familiar enough with the show to tell. To qualify, this would have to be a show where major status quo changes like the main character adopting a child can happen. Otherwise, the expected outcome is for Dan to fail to adopt the child.
- "The Neighbors" has the titular neighbors at first, be amused by Dan’s antics and stories. But as they get progressively more deranged, like when he gets to how he almost *ahem* “does them in” purely because he’s suspicious of how nice they are? They are legitimately horrified that he tried to murder them; all because they were nice to him. After one of his attempts accidentally goes off? They immediately move far away from him and never want to see his face again. Character reaction
- Danny Phantom: There are two instances, in The Ultimate Enemy, where characters, Danny and SkulkTech, fall from the sky and grab onto a flagpole, commenting how they're surprised that it worked instead of breaking. Sure enough, the flagpole breaks and they resume falling, especially since both the flagpole wasn't designed to carry anything heavier than a flag and the latter is clearly heavier than a teenage boy. Not surprising due to the Tempting Fate of them commenting on the unrealistic outcome
- In Detentionaire, every time a character tries to do a Paper-Thin Disguise, they always try their best to turn peoples' attention away from it by telling typical lies, such as "This person is my cousin" and the like. The result? Everyone around them sees through the horrible disguise in mere seconds, and the plan backfires as a result. Notably, obvious disguises never work out in the show and it's only when a character actually puts a lot of effort into changing appearances and voice do they get away with it. But even then, it doesn't fool everyone for long once they slip up. Seems more like Averted Trope if it's a regular occurrence instead of a singular outcome.
- Dexter's Laboratory:
- Another episode, “Figure Not Included”, has Dexter creating Major Glory action figures with high-tech features and abilities for a group of Glory-loving kids so he can join their gang. Eventually, after a fight, the action figures overload and explode. When the kids prepare to pound him for his defective action figures, the actual Major Glory flies in and saves Dexter in the nick of time. Dexter mention’s that he’s learned a lesson about trying to buy friends with toys. Glory appreciates his moral, but clarifies that he’s taking Dexter to see his attorney, since Dexter committed copyright infringement by making the action figures without Glory’s permission. Not sure.
- One season 3 episode "Copping an Aptitude" is about Dexter being invited to attend a college. Being the child genius that he is, it makes sense that some schools would be interested in having him join. Dexter of course spends all his time doing nothing but studying and working. His roommate warns him that he will burn himself out, and that’s exactly what happens. Without his family around Dexter gets no social interaction, and without Dee Dee interrupting him occasionally he works so much that he snaps and becomes a partyholic, desperate to throw a wild party when everyone else is focused on studies for once. His antics in trying to covert the college into a giant water tub ultimately floods the school, and result in him getting expelled from the college. Interestingly, this kind of thing happened to him before way back in an early pilot episode. Not surprising if he's warned about the outcome. The rest is a character reaction and not really realistic
- In the Christmas episode of Dora the Explorer, Dora and her friends end up traveling a few years into the future. Dora and Boots only look slightly older, but Swiper, being a fox, ages more rapidly than humans and monkeys, and is now elderly. Too fantastical, since Swiper is clearly not a realistic fox
- This is the premise of the show Dragons: Riders of Berk, Sequel Series to the film How to Train Your Dragon, as the Vikings learn how to live with big, fire-breathing creatures with no sense of the boundaries they should respect. Dealing with problems caused by the new status quo is at the center of a number of plots in the first part of the series. Too fantastical
- It gets revisited in Dragons: The Nine Realms, where the new protagonists initially approach the dragons as mystical creatures rather than the intelligent wild animals they actually are. The third dragon species they encounter reacts exactly like a large animal being bothered by an unfamiliar creature would, and the fourth manhandles Jun in an attempt to make sense of the strange, hairless ape barking orders at them. Same, and also a character reaction.
- Drawn Together: Toot Braunstein is known for subverting Acrofatic, demonstrating how pathetic a grotesquely out-of-shape person really would be. In "Mexican't Buy Me Love", she attempts Wheel of Feet, even uttering a Road Runner-like "BEEP-BEEP!" — and collapses on the road one second later, completely out of breath. She also performs some lunges and squats while wearing her tight dress — and we hear the sound of said dress quietly ripping. On the other hand, Toot's weight problem is also often exaggerated for humor, such as when she is literally depicted as Jabba the Hutt. The Wheel of Feet part might count. The rest is just an aspect of the character and not an outcome.
- Elliott from Earth:
- Falling straight on top of your knees while despairing hurts like hell. Maybe valid, since it's pointing out that the Knee Fold Fall of Defeat trope is usually portrayed unrealistically.
- While trying to have a replica of his mom's coffeemaker made through using his memories, Elliott's inability of getting the shape right because he wasn't very attentive to its shape or because he was a baby back then is so bad that all the coffeemakers come out literally blurry. Too fantastical
Dexter's Lab - the copyright infringement entry is rather wordy but Dexter getting in legal trouble I think counts.
Elliott from Earth - first one is a Partial-Context Example. It's not stated if it's a moment, or Discussed Trope, etc.
I thought about it a bit more, and the Dexter's Laboratory might be more of an example of Extraordinary World, Ordinary Problems or In-Universe Fanwork Ban, since the point is that Dexter can create super-advanced (therefore unrealistic) toys, but he is still affected by copyright law. But it's debatable is said law being applied is really realistic, since, according to the example, Dexter only distributed the toys among a small, private group of people, rather than selling them to the general public, so it's unlikely a real person would pursue legal action.
It's clearly Artistic License – Law. Dexter would only commit copyright infringement if he were to profit from selling the Major Glory action figures. As he's giving out his homemade knockoffs to his small group of friends for free, Dexter is legally safe.
Edited by Nen_desharu on Oct 21st 2022 at 8:57:23 AM
Kirby is awesome.- Teen Wolf:
- Stiles always gets up to some serious shenanigans like stealing police property and kidnapping one of his fellow students... which then causes his dad, the town Sheriff, to lose his job. Valid
- Scott always misses out on school due to being a werewolf... which causes him to have terrible grades and risk being held back a year. Too fantastical
- The Beacon Hills police, specifically Sheriff Stilinski, have a lot of trouble closing cases due to most homicides having to do with the supernatural - which the police obviously have no experience with. At the start of season 3B, Agent McCall is looking to impeach the sheriff due to his seeming inability to do his job. Too fantastical
- In "The Fox and the Wolf":
Sheriff Stilinski: I don't know how you guys do it. You're all so strong. You're fearless. Hell, you manage to keep your grades up.Allison: Well, I'm failing Econ. Not an outcome- Thanks to all the damage it took in Season 3, the hospital is starting to have money issues. Not an outcome
- Likewise, Sheriff Stilinski is having trouble paying off the debt he owes to Eichen House in Season 4 after Stiles was placed there in the previous season. Plot happens
- Lydia's mother is getting a job as a teacher and plans to sell off her mother-in-law's weekend house due to money issues caused by her recent divorce. Not an outcome
- An assassin is poised to shoot Stiles, and Agent McCall is forced to shoot him first. In the next episode, we see him going through the procedures to prove that lethal force was necessary in that situation, and he has to leave town for review. Valid
- All the supernatural dangers take their toll on newly turned werewolf Liam, who suffers from anxiety and nightmares as a result. Too fantastical
- The latest season has everyone in town being used by a shapeshifter and having their fear of the unknown heightened. When Liam is suspected of being a creature, he spends most of the day being harassed by his fellow teammates before being brutally beaten in front of his classmates for a long time with no one stopping it until the coach intervenes. Too fantastical
- Meanwhile, Scott learns that the newest hunter hates the werewolves due to an incident in season five: After seeing the Beast kill a bunch of people in a bus, Scott and the others went after it...and didn't check for survivors. As such, she was left to fend for herself until the sheriff arrived. Character reaction
- In the series finale, Monroe ends up escaping and moves on to create a worldwide organization of hunters against the supernaturals, targeting innocent people in the process. Why? Because Scott and his friends still have their Thou Shalt Not Kill rules in play, and they left her alive. Not surprising
- The Alpha twins tried to join Scott's pack after falling out with Deucalion. However, there was no quick forgiveness: Scott and Stiles were unsure whether to trust them, and Lydia broke up with one of them after his part in Boyd's death. Issac was the one who hated them the most, and even tried to murder them at one point to avenge both Boyd and Erica. Meanwhile, no one has forgiven or trusted Peter. Character reaction
Continuing with the Western Animation page:
- Final Space: Gary wears the skin of a dead alien as a disguise and inadvertently traumatizes her family. In season 2, the family comes back to avenge themselves on Gary, who they believe killed her. They come back again in season 3, ready to murder Gary and his crew once they go through a dimensional portal, or at least prevent him from coming back. Character reaction
- Back in season 2, Time Swap Sammy makes a deal with Gary to save Avocato's life. In season 3, it's revealed this gesture got him fired for breaking Time Swap laws. Because of this, he wants Gary and his crew dead. Too fantastical, and a character reaction
- The Freakazoid! shorts focusing on Lord Bravery were all about this trope in regards to being a superhero. In one short, Lord Bravery is sued by a bakery because they have the same name, and is unable to convince the owner to change it to something else, forcing him to go by "Lord Smoked Meats and Fishes" for a while. The example admits it's a Deconstructive Parody rather than this trope. And superheroes don't exist, so they can't have Realistic outcomes
- Another superhero called the Huntsman, proves to be very effective at what he does. So effective, that crime in the city ends up reaching an all-time low, and the Huntsman is ultimately left bored with nothing to do. Too fantastical, since once again, superheroes don't exist, and stopping all crime isn't realistic
- A Running Gag with the Huntsman shorts is that, since the Huntsman lives in the woods and has to hurry into the city when he's called in to catch a criminal, by the time he arrives to get debriefed, the issue's already been resolved without him. This is an aspect of the character rather than the outcome of one action.
- In Frisky Dingo, Killface and Xander run against each other for presidency for most of the second season before it's pointed out that neither of them are eligible, as Killface wasn't born in the US and Xander is under 35. Might not qualify as an outcome if it's just pointed out to them, but if they already started trying to be elected, it might still count, and that would also reassure audiences that they can be elected, making their ineligibility Surprisingly Realistic.
- In G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero, Serpentor's introductory episode has him lead Cobra in an invasion that seizes Washington DC in an attempt to conquer America. But while the initial surprise attack is successful, it turns out that a terrorist organization, even a large one, cannot beat an actual military force in conventional warfare; Cobra's attempt at actually holding the city fails miserably. Didn't Think This Through shoehorn. And supervillains don't exist, so we can't say for sure that they wouldn't be able to match the US military.
- In an episode of Green Lantern: The Animated Series, Hal and Kilowog try to pose as a pair of Atrocitus' guards. The problem is, once they knock out some guards and steal their uniforms, they realize that the armor was meant for average humanoids, not the super-burly Kilowog. Another group of Atrocitus' men happen by and catch Kilowog struggling in vain to cram himself into the armor. Another Didn't Think This Through shoehorn, and Kilowog being an alien makes this Too Fantastical.
- In The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy episode "Prank Phone of Cthulhu", Billy and Irwin's attempts at Prank Calling people fall apart because every modern phone is equipped with caller ID. Not enough context. Probably just the show's reality ensuing, especially since the expected outcome for characters pulling pranks is for bad things to eventually happen to the pranksters.
- In Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law, the jury in each of Harvey's cases always consists of the same jurors. This is ignored until the penultimate episode, when Mentok the Mindtaker finally notices and has all of Harvey's cases overturned as a result. Maybe valid.
- He-Man and the Masters of the Universe (2021):
- Felines primarily rely on their claws for hunting and fighting. As such, Cringer is unable to do both very well after he was declawed until Duncan makes him metal prosthetics. Not enough context. Why would we expect Cringer to still be able to hunt after losing his claws?
- The Jawbreaker trope is normally treated as a fatal injury in fiction, but for Kronis, it's just a painful inconvenience. And as a wanted criminal hiding in a remote location, he can't get proper medical attention for the injury, forcing him to put together a mechanical brace to compensate. The first part might count, since it mentions an Expected Unrealistic Outcome but the second is just Plot.
- The Hollow: Sometimes, just because a boy and a girl spend a lot of time together, it doesn't mean that both of them are romantically interested in each other. Adam turns down Mira, whom Kai had a crush on before he fell for Vanessa. Season 2 adds the information that one of them might not even be interested in the opposite gender. When the characters get their memories back, Mira remembers that Adam is gay and profusely apologizes to him for kissing him. Character reaction
- One episode of I Am Weasel has the Red Guy host "The Sackless Games" with Weasel and I.R. Baboon as contestants. In the end it's revealed that the entire thing was a scam, and thus he had broken the law. The cops show up not long after and simply arrest him for committing fraud, and Weasel doesn't even have to do anything. Needs more context
Red Guy: Is that a crime?Weasel: Why, yes. It is.
- Inspector Gadget: As shown in his backstory, the title character found out the hard way that slipping on a Banana Peel is extremely dangerous, and in his case, the injuries were so severe he had to be transformed into a cyborg afterwards. Doesn't sound very realistic, plus it's part of the show's premise, so not surprising
- Invader Zim: The episode "Walk of Doom" just deals with Zim getting lost in the city and being unable to deal with the Earth's customs. First, he stares deeply into the sun and temporarily becomes blind. Moments before that, he tried to ride the bus without paying, only to get kicked out and called a weirdo. Too Fantastical since Zim is an alien
- Invincible:
- Being caught off-guard by Omni-Man's sudden betrayal results in the Guardians acting out of panic — some of them are holding back because they believe there's more to it than it seems, freeze up, and/or make mistakes like getting too close. Character reactions
- Mark learns that his job as a superhero is getting in the way of his studies, job, and relationship with Amber. He is failing numerous subjects at school, and is pulled by the principal to discuss things. As for his job, he simply quits. Too fantastical
- Debbie is rightly furious and upset after learning about Nolan's crimes, but she also is horrified when the GDA tries to kill him. The betrayal is fresh, but feelings you've held for twenty years don't disappear instantly, no matter what new information has come to light. Cecil reassures her that this is only a last resort; if he could talk down Nolan, he would prefer that and at least tries his best to reason with him, to ask why. Character reaction
- When you're in a hospital bed for several weeks, you're going to get dehydrated unless you have an IV. Debbie gives Mark water to drink through a straw when he briefly awakens. Not surprising
- Iron Man: Armored Adventures:
- In "Ancient History 101", when Tony, Gene, Rhodey, and Pepper go to the temple where the second Makluan ring was found, Tony believes they have to break into it because he expects Obadiah Stane to have the temple guarded with armed guards, high-tech security, and possibly even dogs, since the temple is the property of Stark International. When Tony goes to check, he discovers that the temple isn't being guarded at all, Stane just abandoned it because it didn't make any money for him. Sounds more like a Justified Trope of Anti-Climax
- In "Heavy Mettle", Iron Man and War Machine face off against Titanium Man, whose suit's titanium-vibranium alloy makes it practically indestructible. The two heroes wait until their enemy is in the air, then hit him with their most powerful weapons at the same time. While Titanium Man's suit is structurally undamaged, the sheer force of the explosion sends him flying for miles, with the villain unable to stop himself, due to the suit's inner workings being locked up as a result of the massive explosive force it was hit with. No matter how tough an object is, it is still affected by the laws of physics, and a strong outer shell can only protect the innards so much. Too fantastical
- Because the Iron Man armors were never patented, as Tony would have had to reveal his secret identity, when Ghost steals the schematics from him, and gives them to Obadiah Stane and Justin Hammer, both men are legally allowed to do whatever they please with the schematics. Plot happens
- That said, should it become known that Stane acquired the tech from a known criminal, it would deliver a blow to his credibility. Tony and Rhodes' mothers were able to gather enough evidence to expose the shady deal, prompting Stark Industries' board to fire Stane and Tony to finally take company ownership back. Plot happens, plus the villains being defeated is the expected outcome here
- Unfortunately getting Stane fired has a consequence Tony didn't consider, such as giving Hammer the opportunity to buy Stark International and take control of his inheritance. Removing one enemy from power can allow another enemy to seize it. Plot happens again
- At the ending of "The X-Factor", after the final fight with Magneto when Senator Kelly expresses his hatred for Annie, who is really Jean Grey, and blames her for what happened, despite the fact she saved his life, which was filmed by a camera crew, everyone present immediately turns on him and he loses his supporters, which the camera crew also filmed, leaving Kelly with no platform to stand on for his anti-mutant campaign. Acting like an Ungrateful Bastard to someone who saved your life can cause people to turn on you, especially if you're a politician. Character reaction, and not surprising
Technically in the Billy and Mandy case, bad things do end up happening to the pranksters, but what happens is fantastical.
Someone just moved the literature examples to their own subpage after adding a bunch of new examples, including a separate subpage for Skulduggery Pleasant. At a glance, it looks like most of these examples are just the book's realty ensuing, including some fantastical and character reactions.
Here's a few from the literature seciton.
- Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix: After watching Cedric's death in the last book, dealing with ongoing persecution by the Ministry, and sharing a mental connection to Voldemort, it's no surprise that Harry's prone to mood swings and outbursts of anger — he's dealing with serious PTSD, not helped by the apparent fact that There Are No Therapists. Frankly, it's a miracle that he doesn't end up a shattered hulk of a man before the story's over. Character has truama
- After Voldemort's return has been confirmed beyond question, the {{Dénouement}} reveals that the public's trust in Minister "Head-in-the-Sand Management" Fudge is rapidly disintegrating. The next book shows just how far he ends up falling. Character reaction
- Harry had trained Ron, Hermione, Neville, Ginny, and Luna the best he could, but they're still picked off one by one (non-fatally) by the Death Eaters during the climax, since most of them are teenagers with little to no practical experience on the battlefield. It takes the real adults and the Order to even the odds. Characters weaker than other characters
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: So what do you get when three seventeen-year-olds embark on a quest to destroy five magical artifacts that could be anything and anywhere in the UK, if not beyond, without a hint as to what? You get a very long period of our heroes plodding around, with no real plan of what to do. Even several of the hints Harry and Hermione had been looking into didn't really lead anywhere, because not every bit of new information is a world-shattering revelation. Plot happens
- Why does Aberforth resent his brother for what happened to Ariana, even a literal century later? He never actually apologized for it or let Aberforth know how much he hated himself for it and Aberforth had to learn about what happened secondhand from Harry. Even your siblings won't forgive you if you don't apologize. Character reaction
- ''Summer Knight: Harry deciding to go Screw the Rules, I'm Doing What's Right! save Susan and violate the rules of hospitality, kicking off a war with The Red Court and has him at the beginning of the book called before the Senoir Council to answer for it. It's only by the skin of his teeth through the aid of Ebenezar, The Gatekeeper, and Mab that he was not thrown immediately to the Reds in an attempt to stop the war. Plot happens
- Proven Guilty: One of the con-goers bleeds to death when Harry gets distracted by beating up a phobophage instead of providing proper First Aid. Valid
- Daniel Carpenter is able to escape from the Hammerhands phobophage... by hiding in the Carpenters' old tree house and pulling the rope ladder up behind him. After all, Hammerhands doesn't have any actual hands. Logical Weakness shoehoehorning
- Dead Beat was the first time that Harry consciously decided to end two peoples' lives - the Corpsetaker and Quintus Cassius - with all other times Harry had killed someone prior to this point being in self-defense (more or less). While both deaths were treated as awesome and satisfying in the moment, this book shows that Harry is understandably horrified and sickened with himself over having ended the lives of two people. Granted, as both were Asshole Victims, he's not as upset about it as he would be if he had killed two innocent people, but as in Real Life, he's still guilt-ridden over it to the point of having nightmares. Since most people nowadays are taught to have at least some general respect for the sanctity of life, Harry's PTSD is perfectly understandable. Character reaction
- Animal Farm: When winter comes around, it becomes harder to plant and harvest food. This makes the animals starve, thus forcing them to eat only chaff and mangels. The weather also makes it hard for the animals to build the windmill due to the unworkable weather-induced conditions. The 1999 film also shows what happens when a pig with no real financial experience runs a farm, as Manor Farm is left in ruins. Too fantastical
Here's the final section for the Live-Action Films. Once again, opinions on the valid one are appreciated.
-Operative: I want to resolve this like civilized men. I'm not threatening you. I'm unarmed-
-Mal: Good. [draws his gun and shoots him]
- Operative: [leaping back up and grabbing Mal from behind] I am, however, wearing full body armour. I'm not a moron. Character reaction
-Sivana: "Enough games, boy! You think a pack of children can-"
(Cut to Billy's point of view, as Sivana is barely audible hundreds of feet away)
Billy: "Wait, what?"
Sivana: "You will beg for mercy as I feast on your heart. Slowly-"
Billy: "Are you making some, like, big evil guy speech right now or something? You're like a mile away from me right now! There's cars and trucks-"
Sivana: "I will have the world eating out of the palm of my hand-"
Billy: "All I see is mouth moving, I don't hear anything!"
-Roy: (internal monologue) I gotta find Helen...gotta find the clues...gotta find out how to use this thing.
Edited by CelestialDraco on Oct 15th 2022 at 12:48:36 PM