So, going by that logic, cartoon Slade was not a lifelong soldier enhanced by government experiments, but a former douchebag yuppie whose playing the stock market made him billions. The money failed to bring true contentment, and so the efforts of chasing more money were given up for the more visceral thrills of mercenary work...enhanced by government experiments.
Okay, maybe not, but the concept makes this video game playthrough even FUNNIER.
- He was able to summon one demon and make a deal with another, so a supernatural origin might also work. Although the animated
DeathstrokeSlade seems more like a Robin-level Badass Normal than the comics version, at least before he got upgraded by Trigon.- Maybe he sold his soul to gain an evil empire.
- Then how would he make a deal with Trigon for the fourth season?
- He sold it twice. Either he got the original back somehow, or Slade has two souls. (Maybe he stole one just for bargaining purposes.)
- He sold his soul to Trigon in the first place, who sent him back to do his bidding as per the contract. Slade just hired very good lawyers to draft it in order to get relative freedom.
- Wolfram & Hart?
- Maybe he sold his soul to gain an evil empire.
- After everything he went through, Slade lost his interest in world domination and becomes a mercenary-for-hire for the money and the thrills. This brings Slade in line with his comic book status.
- I just wanted to add that apart from making at least as much sense as anything else the show ever offered us, that is one of the funniest things I have ever read.
- Or everything 'Slade' does is an incredibly complicated Secret Test of Character for his newly independent ex-sidekick.
- As the master of Crazy-Prepared, he made sure Terra was never in any danger at all and safely removed her from play permanently at her 'death.' His own death was a known temporary inconvenience.
- Batman finally cracked. Years of double-identity and poorly treated grief finally took their toll, and he developed a genuine Split Personality. Slade's one-eyed look may also indicate a physical trauma that may have have "helped" him over the edge— a final, fatal fight with the Joker, two men enter, one broken man leaves?
- Maybe Slade is Owlman.
- And he wants Robin to be his new Tal
Jossed. In The End, part 2, Slade's masked is kicked off his face - or what was left from it. We could see that Slade is indeed missing an eye and has a scar so deep it runs through his skull. Bruce Wayne doesn't have those kinds of injuries, but we know Deathstroke does.
- Not necessarily. Since TT is in its own continuity that does not necessarily reflect other DC canons, it's all fair game. We only get one "shot" of Batman's face in the tie-in comic, and it's covered with a mask with whited-out lenses that may possibly be hiding a missing eye and scar...
- Jossed by common sense and just watching the show
- Future!Robin is the last survivor a The End of the World as We Know It. He saw everything and everyone die horribly or worse, and is so scared-shitless and unbalanced that he's become a Well-Intentioned Extremist, willing to do anything to defeat the true future threat, even become willing to ally with Trigon, because what's coming is even worse. He's not trying to make Robin a criminal, he's teaching him to be absolutely ruthless and willing to let the ends justify any means, since that's what he believes will be necessary to avert his failure. Something worse?...perhaps the dark gods of chaos? Hear me out,Trigon could have been 'Slade's' last ditch effort to defeat the chaos gods, but Raven's dad betrayed him, leaving him only one choice: return the world to how it. Think about it, when the Titans were fighting against their magical doppelgängers they sure seemed to have sudden rage-fuelled comeback? Who hates the dishonourable cruelty and cowardly sorcery that Trigon uses? Khorne.
- Alternate theory: After "Apprentice, Part 2", Future Robin fade from existence after his past self changed his future and is replaced by a completely different person from the future. Thus explaining Slade's apparent emotionless state.
- My friends used to look sideways at her when she spouted off her "Slade is Robin from the future" theories back when the show was originally running. Nice to see she's not alone!
- In an alternate timeline, instead of saving Raven during the events of The End, Robin ended up going psycho after wandering the wasteland earth alone, in pain after losing the people he loved, and went back in time to distance himself from his friends (hence the Apprentice arc) to try and ease the pain. After this failed, he was trapped in the past and just kept sliding until he went completely batshit, which is how he forgot about Raven bringing about the end of the world, and kept trying to kill the Titans.
- The theory has merit on it's own, but it's worth noting that it is beyond impossible for Teen Titans to share a canon with the DCAU.
- No it isn't but if you want to place Teen Titans in the DCAU it has to take place before Batman:TAS so before Harvey Dent even become Two-Face
- Isn't that canon?
- Yes it is. In the french version, he's called Deathstroke.
- Slade sounds cooler and scarier than Deathstroke. No wonder they renamed him.
- True, but they also replaced Slade Wilson's original DC Comics alias as "Deathstroke the Terminator" with "Slade" due to censorship issues. Still, compared to the latter, the former alias just sounds crappy.
- Or maybe someone just thought the name "Deathstroke the Terminator" was too corny for a non-silly, non-Bronze-Aged villain.
- Yes it is. In the french version, he's called Deathstroke.
Jason Todd
- "Jason Todd" was one of the theories on Beast Boy's chart in the episode of Red X's return. This was the name of one of the Robins from the comics, who recently came Back from the Dead and assumed an Anti-Villain identity with a very similar name — the "Red Hood". The new Red X is the current Titans' Robin's Evil Counterpart; his skill level and fighting style mirror Robin's. Jason was largely an angsty badass, whose personality is in sync with the new Red X's, and who would be just the type to do something like this.
- So Beast Boy was right?
- And, unbeknownst to the Titans, he covertly fights crime alongside the thievery, but in a more violent and ruthless way than the Titans.
- And then there's this.
Damian Wayne
- The son of Bruce Wayne and Talia al Ghul, a "violent and self-important" kid. Posing as Red X and taking on the Titans single-handedly is a twisted way to try and earn Batman's approval.
- The cartoon aired before Damian was introduced.
- He could easily be Tallant Wayne/Ibn al Xu'ffasch, basically proto-Damian, instead, both of whom predate the series and have the exact same origins as the son of Bruce Wayne and Talia al-Ghul.
- The cartoon aired before Damian was introduced.
An inter-dimensional imp
- An Evil Counterpart to Larry from the 4-and-9/8th-dimension (Ddot Nosaj?) popped in and took the suit
- Larry himself did as part of some whacky game of cops-and-robbers he wants to play with Robin
- Larry's magic accidentally made the suit itself alive.
- Red X being the animated equivalent of her Spoiler identity, following more closely in her dad's footsteps.
Evil Morally Ambiguous Batclone
- Well, I really have no logical reason for this besides for the fact he's smart enough to get past all of the Tower's defences and steal the suit with nobody noticing.
- Twice. He had to get the belt back somehow. Unless, of course, he just made another one himself — which actually makes this theory more plausible.
A Time Traveling Younger Terry
- It had been said he was in juvie when he was younger, so perhaps he got sent back in time before he became Batman and stole the suit.
Robin's brother
- "Lost Lost Brother" was one of the possible theories on Beast Boy's chart in the episode of Red X's return, and both Robin and the new Red X have similar voices (unless there's a built-in voice changer in the mask). Robin does have an older brother in Batman Forever, his named is Mitchell and got killed along with their parents by Two-Face. A similar scenario may have happened in the Teen Titans universe, and was brought back to life or never truly died at all (a la Jason Todd in the original comics). But since he is labeled "Long Lost Brother", Robin's brother may have been kidnapped, missing, or sent to live with relatives at a younger age when Robin was either a baby or in his mother's womb, since Robin doesn't even acknowledge having a brother or any other sibling. He found out his little brother is Robin (and by extension, Bruce Wayne is Batman) and has been stalking him since. That would sort of explain how Red X seems to know a lot about Robin. His hostility towards Robin is because Red X was jealous their parents give him more attention. Or he blames him for their parents' death because Robin knew Boss Zucco sabotaged the circus act but never said anything before its too late (like in several reinterpretations of the incident).
- Share the same voice and he could be bitter enough a bully that after years of being blamed for crimes he'd actually become a criminal himself.
- "I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING JONES!"
Anarky/Lonnie Machin
- X is possibly a teenager, and so is Anarky. Dresses in red? Check. Villain of the Batfamily? Check. Anti-Villain and Anti-Hero? Check. Rivals Robin in physical combat? Check.
- Same voice. As for how he got there, the Teen Titans universe is part of a Tales of the World plot and the disguises and thievery are part of one of the game's bizarre fetch quests.
No one in particular
- Just a Badass Normal thief who managed to sneak into the tower (probably during one of the points where the security system was down, or during Slade's attack on the city in "Aftershock"), found the suit, and decided to take it for a joyride. He is, of course, immensely amused by everyone's wild speculation as to his true identity, and may even have planted some of it himself. (Red X is a troper!) Which would make Raven right when she said:Red X could be anyone. Anyone smart enough to find the suit and dumb enough to take it for a joyride.
Speedy
- Left with no other way to feed his heroin addiction, Speedy sometimes moonlights as a supervillain.
- So...Speedy's already a junkie, and yet Bumblebee, Aqualad and Mas y Menos are comfortable with him being in Titans East? (recall, if he's shooting up, that's going to be profoundly difficult to hide, since superheroes, even teen heroes, would be just the type to check everywhere for tracks. And it would show up in any bloodwork he had to do, too) Also, given how heroin trashes the system, just how is he keeping up his stamina to be both Speedy AND Red X?
- A one-shot character from The Batman who was partners with his brother Wrath, serving as a Robin analogue to Wrath's Batman. They were a lot like the Dynamic Duo, except they're criminals who fight against the police and superheroes because they believe that crime is just another career, and that criminals have enough problems to deal with without superheroes constantly ruining their day.
- Eventually, they found out the secret identities of Batman and Robin, but in trying to take them down, Joker gassed the both of them with Joker gas, making them unable to share their secret and driving them to partial insanity.
- It's likely that Scorn would recover from the Joker gas on his own while being locked away, but have suffered from partial memory loss in the meanwhile. This lets him know plenty about the Boy Wonder, but not everything (such as Robin's identity). He would then escape from jail, make his way to Jump City, and steal the Red X suit for himself.
The suit itself having developed a sentient personality
- Yes, there are people who subscribe to this. And hey, with about as much sense as the show makes at times, why count it out? Maybe Robin's Badass Normal DNA made it long for a wild life of its own.
- Possible, given the uncertain and unstable properties of the xynothium element that powered the suit.
Grant Wilson
- Slade's older kid in the comics that no-one remembers. Cause he kind of died in his first appearance. Or did he...?
- This also makes sense since Red X is Slade's apprentice. Grant has decided to make his own way in the world, and in addition to the fact that the Red X suit is awesome Power Armor, he also feels that it is symbolic: stealing the role of his father's apprentice from someone who no longer wants the role, in a bit of Esau and Jacob symbolism (stealing the "birthright" of being Slade's heir).
- Maybe in TT continuity, he hadn't appeared and/or died yet.
Rose Wilson
- After becoming disgusted with her father's schemes, Rose decided to leave him and strike out on her own, taking up the Red X identity purely because it would be so obvious to Slade that he would think Red X couldn't possibly be her. She turned to nonviolent crime in order to keep any official records of her existence from being needed, as that would enable her father to track her down. However, she also uses her new identity to foil more dangerous villains.
An AU/DC version of Deadpool
- ...Because that would be totally awesome.
An Assassin
- Like Desmond, he could have escaped from a Farm, except he did it after learning some badass skills, but still before being told that it's totally okay to kill people.note The basis for this theory? He took a Leap of Faith off of a cliff. With no hesitation whatsoever. I am willing to concede that it may just have been because Red X is a Crowning Character of Awesome. Of course, being an escaped Assassin who still hasn't been hunted down by the Templars would just add to that Awesome.
Jinx
- After growing bored of her idiotic comrades in crime, she steals the suit herself. Due to her very slim physique it would be easy to simply pad up to look like a boy. (She even hit on Starfire to keep up the charade) After fighting along side Robin, she realizes that it actually feels pretty good to be good. Her evilness fades away, and a certain red-haired Speedster picks up where Robin's actions left off.
Jericho
- In the original comics, Jericho is Slade's son. Perhaps in the animated TT universe, he's still his son and decided to follow in the footsteps of his father, but couldn't quite bring himself to turn completely evil (hence Red X's moral ambiguity). He joined the Brotherhood of Evil, but quit soon after Ding Dong Daddy's race. Somewhere between then and Calling All Titans! he was attacked and someone tried to slit his throat, which didn't kill him, but rendered him mute; he quickly realised what he could have become - like the people who attacked him - discarded the suit and turned to pacifism (only fighting when the Titans needed help).
- His only power is his ability to possess people through eye contact. He couldn't use this power when dressed up as Red X because the mask stopped him from making proper eye-contact - he decided that it was worth it to not be able to use this power to have the Xenothium-powered perks the suit gave him.
- In the comics' continuity, Jericho has his throat slit at a very young age (certainly younger than TT age), which also happens to be the reason why Slade has only one eye. I seriously doubt the creators would warp Jericho's backstory that much, as it would also affect Slade's.
Robin's Enemy Without
- The Xenothium in the suit affected Robin's mind and gave him a Split Personality that was Red X - so after Robin locked it away, Red-X-Robin stole it again, and Robin doesn't remember. Perhaps he even committed a few more thefts in the suit that Robin doesn't remember, during the Titan's breaks between criminals...who knows? Later, at some point, the Xenothium caused this split personality to break away from Robin (in his sleep, perhaps) and leave with the suit. They then met the second Red X in the episode X, though it isn't a different Red X, it's the same one.
- OR, it IS an Enemy Without but one Raven is responsible for : it is shown in "Fear Itself" that Raven's power make her a borderline Reality Warper, as her repressed fear of a movie conjures tangible creatures with will of their own. It is plausible to think that Raven, either by accident or through her meditation to get rid of this dangerous aspect of her powers, gave life to the suit. This explains why the second Red X is exactly the same as the one portrayed by Robin, it is his portrayal brought to life by Raven's magic.
Future Dick Grayson
- It's established that Dick Grayson is this Robin, and time travel is perfectly possible in this continuity. It was even on Beast Boy's chart. Also, Robin and Red X both have similar combat and acrobatic skills. Not to mention if it is a future Dick Grayson it would make perfect sense how he could make it into the tower and steal the suite with out anyone finding out until they practically bump into him. Also, the fact that he calls Robin kid at least implies he is a bit older, Jason Todd is generally a bit younger then Dick and posses much less acrobatic ability. The reason he opposes the Titans is either because he has gone insane due to the trauma of time travel, or has become at least a bit unhinged, or doesn't want to directly effect the Titans development and only shows up to keep Robin and the others sharp and spends his off camera time doing things to thwart other villains by being the "inside man" and ruining their operations.
A living embodiment of Wild Mass Guessing
- It's why we never found out his identity; he only exists because people theorize on who he is and what his motivations are. If we ever learned an actual identity, he'd cease to exist.
A robot
- Why else would his voice sound like that?
That Greaser Dude That Stole Cyborg's Car
- This one always sounded good to me. In hindsight, maybe not as much, but here goes: The tall greaser that "totally escaped" Gizmo's trap bubble before the cops showed up could be him. The dude had a lot of potential. He looks at Cyborg's high tech car and has no problems of A) breaking into it, B) turning off its alarm, C) Removing the wheel lock without disassemblying it or breaking it, and D) was able to use the different devices in the car in his race. He was also, A) skilled at escaping Gizmo's trap despite the fact that once you whole body is in the bubble, you shouldn't be able to escape, B) very self serving and would have no qualms about sneaking into the Titan Tower after they got him arrested, C) even if he was supposed to be in jail when Red X appeared, we saw how much ingenuity he had and may be able to escape, and D) if he can get past all of Cyborg's precautions for his car, then why not for his home? The only problems with this is his voice, his personality (he was more nervous), and his fighting skills, but if he practiced his inflection, he could pull off Red X's voice and jail can toughen a guy up. He could also be acting and that we get the gist of what of he wants without giving himself away, i.e. the fact that he claims to be 100% self-serving, but always does an Enemy Mine. His Enemy Mine actions could be his (possibly in his mind) "wissy" persoanlity coming out. Finally, the martial arts thing is the only block here. We never saw the Greaser fight and he never had a chance to. Jail can toughen someone up and help his reaction time, but the skills he shows are on Robin's level. It all depends on how much that Greaser had in terms of training before and after he was in jail. As for why his buddy isn't with him, there's only one suit and it only fits him. Maybe his body is still in jail, decided to become clean, or they just went their separate ways.
The Joker
- He see's himself as Batman's Evil Counterpart and Arch-Nemesis and would probably relish making up a separate identity to serve as Robin's Evil Counterpart.
Robin from an alternate reality
- Probably the Crime Syndicate's Earth.
A rogue clone of Dick Grayson created by Cadmus
- He's a little mentally unstable, but he still has all Robin's memories and skills. He felt that the Red X persona suited him more than the "Boy Wonder" thing.
Tim Drake after Joker brainwashed him.
- His criminal behavior is among the after affects of the Mind Rape he went through.
- That doesn't really sync-up in the timeline well. Unless you're going for broad strokes.
Richard Grayson - the original Robin - had already moved to Bludhaven and become Nightwing. In the Bad Future in "How Long Is Forever?", Grayson decided to hand over his old identity to Tim Drake so that he could continue to fight crime in Jump City.
- Jossed In the episode, 'Fractured', Larry was originally named Nosyarg Kcid (before Beast Boy requested the name change). Word of God says Larry was created as the anti-Robin. So, Robin is Dick Grayson.
- Doubly jossed in the episode "Haunted", where Raven dips into Robin's head and sees his memories. There's a circus tent with two people falling to their deaths, which is how John and Mary Grayson - Dick's parents - met their end.
- Teen Titans GO! #47 confirms the TT cartoon Robin to be Dick Grayson.
Miscellaneous
- Immediately jossed by the next two episodes clearly showing that the Doom Patrol still exists.
- It's also not that hard to believe that none of the adult heroes knew why Raven had been conceived. She didn't exactly go about telling people. The only ones who would have known are some of the members of the Justice League Dark and Zauriel, and there could have been major metaphysical reasons why they couldn't get involved.
- Jossed by Word of God.
Robin would eventually form the Titans (or some similar team) with only the original founding members from the comics: Speedy, Kid Flash, and Aqualad.
Cyborg would join the Justice League, a là the New 52 story line.
Beast Boy stays with Doom Patrol because he has nowhere else to go.
- Or he joins Robin's Titans team at a later date.
As for Raven, Trigon's plan would probably be successful.
- Unless the alternate Titans successfully intervene.
- Alternatively, it could be like New 52 continuity where she does land on earth anyways.... but ends up in a team of anti-heroes known as the Outlaws. Complete with herself, Red Hood, Speedy, Bizarro, and Artemis.
Another theory is that she is implying Tamaranean speech patterns to English (i.e., in Tamaranean, all nouns or names must be preceded by the equivalent of "the", hence her tendency to use "the" before all nouns and names).
Finally, and the one I think most likely, she is in fact a good English speaker (with some mistakes), but speaks the way she does because of her royal background. That is, she speaks the same way in Tamaranean.
- Does anyone here speak Japanese? It would kind of clinch it if someone who knew Japanese could check to see if she uses those "formal speech patterns" when she learns Japanese in the movie.
- She uses a relatively polite speech pattern in Japanese, with her phrase "Sumimasen kedo, Shinjuku wa docchi no houkou desu ka?" (Kanji: すみませんけど、新宿はどっちの方向ですか?) being deconstructed to "Sorry but, Shijuku [SUBJ] which {POSS} direction “to-be” [question indicator]?" and coming out in English as "Excuse me, which way is Shinjuku?"
Actually, I believe the most plausible theory is that Starfire learns only the fundamentals of the languages she absorbs. As in, only the "purest form of English", with no colloqualisms, slang or personalizations in general.
- Hypothetically, it could be anywhere between November and February. Southern California's about the same latitude as my general home region, and we usually have a 5:30 or earlier sunset during that time of year.
- Alternatively, Raven could be celebrating birthdays using her planet's calendar and it just happened to occur during winter that year.
- Raven is not from another planet..
- Blasphemy! The writers were nearly as blatant about that as they were w/ the Rob/Star ship tease episodes! (and for my money, far more so than they ever were w/ BB/Raven, hence why that one can more easily be classified as a case of Platonic Writing, Romantic Reading)
- I agree with the OP, Beast Boy's feelings for Terra were obvious from the beginning whereas Terra's apparent feelings for Beast boy weren't that strong until the climax/end of her arc (not including the finale). If could be implied that she grew to like Beast Boy, (hence the almost kiss at the carnival) but not much (outside preexisting mythology) to imply that she liked him back from the beginning. For BB and Raven to be a case of Platonic Writing, Romantic Reading, the writers seem to like teasing it (especially with the trouble in tokyo movie).
- That movie didn't really feel like the thing BB/Raven Ship Teases are made of. But there are enough moments in the series proper that even I've questioned how much bullshit Word of God was feeding us on the that front, which would make a good WMG of its own.
- There's also the fact that Terra, having been chased out by so many people before, was probably terrified of rejection and alienation, which was already shown in the series as the reason why she fell in with Slade so easily. She was most likely trying to please Beast Boy so she wouldn't be thrown out again, not knowing that Beast Boy (at least before her betrayal) would have never done that to her even if she did only see him as a friend. Since the Comic hints that she might still remember her roots, the finale might imply that now she has the normal life she wants, she wants to let Beast Boy down easy and let him know that she never did see him as more than just a friend.
- I agree with the OP, Beast Boy's feelings for Terra were obvious from the beginning whereas Terra's apparent feelings for Beast boy weren't that strong until the climax/end of her arc (not including the finale). If could be implied that she grew to like Beast Boy, (hence the almost kiss at the carnival) but not much (outside preexisting mythology) to imply that she liked him back from the beginning. For BB and Raven to be a case of Platonic Writing, Romantic Reading, the writers seem to like teasing it (especially with the trouble in tokyo movie).
- Robin: 15 in "Go!", then turns 18 sometime around Season 5 (possibly after it ends). He needs to be at least 16 to have a motorcycle license (assuming he doesn't get a special superhero license).. However, he's not too old that he wouldn't be much of a "teen" anymore, and would still be young enough to make all the mistakes of youth and enjoy the same silly things like video games and pizza and obnoxious music.
- Cyborg: 16-17 in Go!, 18 by the end of Season 3. Some people put Cyborg as old as 19, but that squicks me out when you think how young the other characters are. 16 seems a little young as well, but that can be attributed to Older Than They Look. As for how old he is in Season 3, he references "being a man" as a reason for him to leave the west coast team; at 18, he would be a legal adult and should be thinking about this kind of thing.
- I think 18/19 makes more sense. His "I never got to finish high school because of these(cybernetics)." doesn't make sense if he was just 17/18. Many people are still in high school at that age.
- Most people graduate at 18, and he never said he was about to graduate, just that he never finished. He could be, at the youngest, 16, as Teen Titans Go! reveals that he became a cyborg as a result of a car crash.
- Starfire: Irrelevant; she was born on Tamaran, which could revolve around its sun faster or slower than Earth does its, and her alien biology may not parallel humans' at all. Though in terms of Earth ages, she would likely be 17-19.
- For people who are Squicked by Starfire's arranged marriage in Betrothed: not only are we talking about a different planet with entirely different traditions, Starfire may well be 30 or 40 or something in earth time, for all we know about Tamaranean physiology.
- Raven: 16-18 until the Season 4 finale. Birthmark is explicitly stated to take place on her birthday, and it reeks of Dangerous 16th Birthday to the point of practically being canon. It fits together perfectly.
- Beast Boy: 14-15. Beast Boy has been described as the "little brother" of the team, and the team does seem to treat him like a kid. He's officially the Plucky Comic Relief Kid-Appeal Character. All this points to him being the youngest member on the team. However, any younger than 13 would make him too young to be called a teen, so 14 is probably the most realistic, given his mannerisms and personality. Furthermore, his fifteenth birthday is depicted in the Teen Titans Go comics.
- Terra: 15. She is clearly not dramatically older than Beast Boy, but their relationship implies that she is the older of the two. She seems too mature to be 14, but not mature enough to be 16, so she falls in between those ages. Finally, in the finale, she seems to be going to high school, which would fit in with this theory if she was 15.
- Very much Jossed. It really is Terra.
- They make it abundantly clear that she's almost certainly faking amnesia. "Things were never the way you remembered them."
- Last-possible-second surrender with plenty of begging for his life?
- He dropped his loot and ran away.
- The sheer shock of a whole bunch of heroes caused him to suffer a fatal heart attack
- Hearing Robin's battle-cry, he turns and finds a veritable army of heroes encroaching upon him. The second thing he does is surrender. The third thing he does is pass out. The Titans leave him to the police, because their noses tell them the first thing he did was soil himself.
- It's not like he doesn't deserve it.
- He might not have done that in this continuity. That was exclusive to his Post-Crisis incarnation. The 2003 Doctor Light might have been more in line with his less heinous Pre-Crisis version.
- Objection! If it was an RPG, they'd have stable, or measurably increasing, power levels.
- It's not a very good RPG. It's the F.A.T.A.L. of that universe. You should see the stuff CN cuts out.
- It's even funnier when you look at the team a bit differently... I.E. look at it like a Dungeons & Dragons campaign group. Robin=Fighter/Monk/Warblade, Cyborg=Barbarian (he even gets to play one for real in an episode), Beat Boy=Druid (Come on. Wildshape much?), Starfire=Sorceress (great for battle but not quite as versatile as Raven), and Raven=Wizard (versatile, has lots of spells, has to learn them and even has to meditate/prepare spells).
- He does seem to be a combination of all the other Robins, and the parts where his power fluctuates (beating Cinderblock with his bare hands in one episode and being genuinely challenged by common thugs the next) could be explained as the "Mutant" part of "Mutant Clone" surfacing.
- References are made in the DCAU to the Teen Titans, but the differences between the two Dicks in each series mean they can't be the same person. Thus, Teen Titans couldn't possibly be part of the DCAU continuity... unless the Robin who formed the Titans was a clone. This would explain why he is at least ten years younger than the original Dick Grayson and displays far greater intelligence (to the point of being a Gadgeteer Genius), endurance (to the point of being Made of Iron), physical strength (to the point of occasional adrenalin-fueled Super-Strength), and all-around competence. At some point prior to the formation of the Titans, he escaped or was released from Cadmus and spend a stint with the bat family before a case of Clone Angst convinced him to strike out on his own. This would make him the original Dick's son and/or little twin brother depending your perspective.
- Making 2008's Tiny Titans comic series, of course, a big old Spinoff Babies remake of Teen Titans. It's certainly happened enough times in the real world.Franco Aurelani: Tiny Titans is like an unlicensed version of a TV show that exists in the DC Universe. In Teen Titans #50, you're going to see a little bit of them watching Tiny Titans on TV.
- We have confirmation!: There's a Teen Titans comic with "Teen Titans Go!" being shown on TV, too. Doubtless, the original "Teen Titans Go!" TV series was cancelled to make room for their Spinoff Babies "Tiny Titans" on the air, just like the comics were in
real lifeour world.
- Somewhat jossed, as Rose Wilson is confirmed to exist in canon, confirmed in Teen Titans Go! issue 49, "Legacy". As for Terra's origin story, that's covered in issue 51, "Metamorphosis". In other words, there is no amalgamation (at least in-universe).
- It seems that the TTGo Rose is an amalgam of Rose Wilson and Grant Wilson, as she's supposedly Slade's oldest child and Jericho is her YOUNGER brother.
- The mustard: a narcotic to her species?
- She seems to go back and forth between the two personalities more or less at random through the series. Maybe it depends on what she ate that day...
- Her species goes through extremely rapid menstrual cycles.
- That is Starfire's true personality... around people she loves, like Galfore. Since apparently the closest thing to kindness on Tamaran is rutha (weakness), and because of her training as a warrior, she learned to put up a defensive and tough façade around other people. When she first saw the Titans, she assumed that they would act the way Tamaraneans would and put up the façade. When she realised that the Titans and (most of the) people on earth would not react that way, she was quick to be herself and open up to her new friends, revealing her true self.
- The oxygen content is noticeably higher than Tamaran's. High oxygen content can be a narcotic, and combined with Bizarre Alien Biology...
- This lines up well. In BTAS, Dick is older than Robins are typically portrayed, in college and only superheroing part time. Perhaps he spent part of his "high school" years with the Titans, funded by the Wayne Foundation and officially going to a non-existent boarding school, then left to pursue his education at Gotham State. Also notice that the R-Cycle and several of his other gadgets strongly resemble ones he has as Nightwing in the DCAU.
- Well, Static Shock is in DCAU, and when Batman guest starred there, he mentioned Robin (the second one) was "with the Titans" (before the TT show began airing), so Teen Titans of some sort exist in the DCAU.
- I have long since developed a timeline for the DCAU that incorporates Teen Titans and Static Shock in with the rest of the DCAU. (I consider The Batman a separate continuity.) Robin in Teen Titans is Dick; after training with Batman as the Boy Wonder, he goes off to prove himself in another city before coming back to Gotham for college. Kid Flash is Wally, and he's older than the other Titans; he upgrades to being a Flash not long after the series and goes off to race Supes. The Robin we see in that Static episode is Tim, not Dick, and when he's 'off with the Titans', it means that he's off training with them - either the original group, or a set of 'new' Titans like in the comics. Really, the shows aren't hard to line up.
- I believe this could work! Wally West might have been Jay Garrick's sidekick, since Barry Allen doesn't exist or never became Flash. Possibly Wally was visiting his uncle Barry when a lighting bolt struck chemicals and hit Wally instead of Barry. Barry might even be his Secret-Keeper. As for Robin, young Dick immediately becomes Robin after learning Bruce is Batman in "Robin's Reckoning, Part 2". Don't forget, the Gordanians appeared in both this series and Justice League episode "Starcrossed".
- I use Broad Strokes to assume that some form of the Teen Titans existed in the DCAU, originally made up of Dick Grayson Robin and the others between seasons in Batman: TAS. Oh and Nightstar exists by the time of Batman Beyond. ^_^
- So it's serious Obfuscating Stupidity? That's kind of awesome, actually.
- Totally canon. Now the only question is if Robin is in on the whole roleplaying Rescue Romance.
- Very possible. With her super strength and other powers she could fight her way out of many situations, yet she plays the Damsel in Distress fairly often. There's a strong backup that she just simply chooses not to do it.
- Alternatively, like Raven, she knows just how immensely powerful she is (especially by earth standards), and because of her Genki Girl Apologetic Attacker personality, consciously holds back against opponents. Because of this, she leaves herself more open to attack - being caught by Robin is just a pleasant side-effect.
- It can't be EVERY fight.
- It could also be subconscious; Tamaranean powers comes from their emotions, specifically they have to believe in themselves to use super strength or flight. She might subconsciously lose those emotions because she knows Robin will rescue her. This is why she doesn't have this problem when she knows Robin isn't coming.
- School uniforms are not uncommon in the U.S., not just at religious schools but at private schools of all sorts. It's only in public schools that they're rare.
- Still, I like this idea. If there is ever a new season (which there won't be) I hope they do this (which they won't).
- Or all the Titans are, you know, dead of old age by the time of the Autobots.
- Or died in action, a superhero's life isn't a safe one. Alternately, they decided to stay in Japan after Trouble In Tokyo.
- However, do we ever really get an accurate time? When the police dress up like Imperial stormtroopers, and nobody bats an eye at demons, robots, mutants, and aliens any more than they would a convenience store robbery, then it probably is the future. The fact that robots are more common for service in Detroit simply means that Detroit is far more mechanized than Jump City, which is saying a lot when even Johnny Rancid can get his hands on Godzilla-sized robots in short order.
- Also, rather unfortunately, no one cares about timeline continuity on The Batman. Thus, you could shoehorn almost anything in.
- But these shows have very different versions of Killer Moth. If the two Killer Moths are two different characters altogether, the show being set in The Batman's continuity makes perfect sense.
- Well, The Batman's Killer Moth was mutated on Robin's second adventure, and Teen Titans takes place several years later. Killer Moth gets slightly less mutated, regains custody of his daughter when she realizes he's not so pathetic anymore, and they move to... The City.
- And uses the mutagens extracted from his own system to create Silkie and his brethren. Possibly also experiments on Fang, cursing him with Awesome either as a favor to Kitten, or as punishment for getting too close to Kitten.
- That, or Kitten just has strange taste in boyfriends.
- I think The Brave And The Bold is a more likely possibility.
- Except for the fact animation in The Batman is closer to Teen Titans than The Brave and The Bold and Robin in The Batman looks more like Robin in Teen Titans then the one we saw in The Brave and The Bold.
- But these shows have very different versions of Killer Moth. If the two Killer Moths are two different characters altogether, the show being set in The Batman's continuity makes perfect sense.
- In the GO!comics I'd like know where the hell that relationship came from. It appeared the two were on a sort of double date with Robin and Starfire. Explanation? LORD FORBID! And in the brief continuity comics where Red Raven Returns Jericho is nowhere to be found. I'm personally a Jericho/Raven shipper, so I'm not complaining about the microscopic screen time that relationship got, but still it would be nice for some backstory. This little rant really should be for Just Bugs Me, I know, but I just had to vent some.
- They probably added this in because of the relationship Raven and Jericho had in the original comics.
- In the original comics, Jericho the possessor becomes possessed. This would be an interesting thing for the show to adapt.
- All the Titans had story arcs except Starfire, she would easily get one.
- According to this interview, when they tried to come up with a story for Starfire, it kept being absorbed into a different arc.
- If they hadn't used up the Blackfire story in the second episode Sisters, that would have made an awesome arc.
- Atlas and Spike: Spike, who seemed much more tech savy then his "Master" Atlas, may have built him to beat in challenges. Atlas was made self-learning and got his "Stronger is better" attitude by beating Spike so many times and wagered Spike in a game in which if he lost, he would be the servent to Atlas.
- Alternately, Atlas isn't a robot at all- he's a cyborg, but only his brain is human. He had it transferred to a mechanical body because he felt it was superior, and now denies that he was ever human. Spike was originally just a mechanic he hired to take care of him, but over time he browbeat him into little more than a personal slave.
- Kardiak - a combination of a pacemaker and an AI gone haywire.
- Alternately, it was created by a Mad Scientist for the express purpose of kidnapping children for his experiments (best not to dwell on why he or she needed children specifically). Since then, the creator either died or was arrested, and Kardiak, not smart enough to know better, keeps committing purposeless kidnaps over and over again.
- Or the creator is Kardiak— he accidentally merged with or turned himself into a biomenchanical monster, and now helplessly acts out his primary function over and over.
- Or Kardiak is something from my nightmares.
- The Amazing Mumbo was a down-on-his-luck stage magician who somehow managed to get his hands on a real magic hat and wand. These gave him incredible magical powers...at the price of his sanity.
- This has been confirmed by Word of God.
- Did they say where he got them? Neuron? Klarion?
- This has been confirmed by Word of God.
- Cinderblock was likely a creation of Slade's, as he almost always is seen working for him. His limited intelligence and need to have someone tell him what to do led to his joining up with the Brotherhood later on.
- Adonis was a rather wimpy geek who got bullied mercilessly, until he finally snapped, invented or stole a suit of Powered Armor and went on a rampage, adopting the mannerisms of the Jerk Jocks who'd previously tormented him as a sort of real-life power fantasy.
- Alternately, Adonis was a Jerk Jock with enough money to buy a suit of Powered Armor, and just likes to show it off.
- And after years of using the suit exclusively to move, his muscles have atrophied, leaving him ironically looking like the pale scrawny geeks he used to torment. The knowledge that he is no longer strong or intimidating enough to be a bully without the suit has made him delusional— he still thinks he's buff.
- Alternately, Adonis was a Jerk Jock with enough money to buy a suit of Powered Armor, and just likes to show it off.
- For the HIVE-FIVE Canon Foreigners:
- Private HIVE is a Super-Soldier and descendant of a prestigious American general of the HIVE. He's got a lot to live up too, especially since many of his peers and teachers think he only got into the HIVE Academy through favoritism.
- See-More was a blind teen from Egypt with an archeologist mother. When an alien symbiote attached to his face and allowed him to see again, he used other reverse-engineered alien technology to design a helmet to contain and control its powers. Unfortunately, said alien symbiote also had a distant relation to the Emerald Eye, and turned him towards the side of villainy.
- Billy Numerous is an American southwestern teen that has several conflicting origins, due to the fact that each Billy tends to have it's own memories, but it doesn't bother him all that much. He and his clones tend to live for the now.
- Kyd Wykkyd is an ancient Human Popsicle from old England with a cowl that allows him to phase through solid objects and space. He's mute and can only speak through telepathy.
- Jinx is a half-demon (see the theory near the bottom). Or a Spliced-up Mafia princess.
- Angel is a Preacher's Kid who gained her wings after holding a holy relic of some kind, but already going through some troubled times, it turned her to the dark side.
- Mother May-Eye is this world's version of a Beldam from Coraline.
- Puppet King was an Evil Sorcerer who tried for immortality using a puppet as a Soul Jar- and accidentally transferred hs entire mind into it. At first he wanted to get his own body back- but then he thought about it, and decided he take over a bunch of other people's bodies instead- specifically, superpowered bodies. The rest is history.
- Fang was the result of an attempt by Killer Moth to splice human and spider DNA together. The result wasn't quite what he'd expected - but he kept Fang around because Kitten liked the look.
- Mad Mod was a successful fashion designer in the 60's and 70's, and fiercely patriotic to England. But when the 80's rolled along, with new American ideas and fashions, it put him out of business, as his target market flocked to American styles. This led him to hate the American influence on his country, and the fickleness of teenagers. And he became a technical genius by studying at Birmingham Polytechnic.
- Legendsverse fan, huh?
- Alternately, he was exiled from the UK for some significant offense (killing suspected IRA members out of "patriotism" or something equally delusional) and given that he can never go home, he tries to recreate his home everywhere else.
- or it wasn't American style, it was punk style after Sex Pistols became popular, he went insane, because he thought they were teaching young people to be outright hooligans.
- Or, he's a version of Giles who ended up in this dimension, but the dimensional transit drove him mad (looking into the Untempered Schism maybe?). He knows that it's his job to educate young teenagers who fight evil, and he remembers something about a high school, but he doesn't know what to do about it, and so he does whatever comes to mind. This explains how he would have the magical knowledge to bind Raven in "Mad Mod", and how he is able to capture the team in the first place despite his age: his experience fighting vampires. Also he recognizes that Raven is part-demon, and so is fixated only on the Titans, not distracted by HIVE or anyone else.
- Or the twist that Mad Mod isn't actually british, but some kind of british fanboy like how Sodom in Street Fighter loves all things japanese. Especially since most of his knowledge seem to stem from the pop culture version of Britain rather than anything actually british.
- And Trigon has been known by many names...
- It could contain a photo of his parents (and siblings if he has one), or a present his parents gave him, that's the only thing he has from his pre-Robin life. It might even be his old circus uniform. That's why Red X decides to let Robin win (see WMG above).
- A copy of a Titans Go! comic.
- I theorize it contained a Pulp Fiction reference.
- Wait... Am I the only one who thought it was porn?
- Probably not.
- His secret "files" on every Female Metahuman on Earth.
- A plushie of Batman!
- Legit proof of his heavily implied secret identity as Richard "Dick" Grayson.
- Adoption papers signed by Bruce Wayne.
- A picture of Barbara he REALLY didn't want Starfire to see.
- A journal of his early years with Batman, complete with those sketches he made for a name and costume in Dark Victory
- Some extra Kryptonite that Batman trusted him with. Just in case (no pun intended)
- Could be multiple objects like a mix of the aforementioned objects above. His old circus uniform, the family photos, a diary, and the adoption papers.
- Jossed by the comic series, in which Nightwing travels back in time and meets the Titans, except for his past self.
- What comic series?
- She did tell Robin about him being Nightwing when she came back. Maybe he drew inspiration from that, so he became Nightwing even though it was just a hallucination.
- It's strongly implied in the episode that she does truly remember and is only faking amnesia.
- It could be that Beast Boy explained what happened to Terra, or it was on the news, and she's merely telling Beast Boy that he has to move on from Terra, because 1) it's annoying her and 2) she can see how much Terra's memory hurt him, and having her, a Terra-look-alike, around him will only make things worse. This could apply whether she's suffering from dissociative fugue or not.
- He also used mind-control on Cinderblock (who, in many of his appearances, is Slade's lackey), using his newly-acquired powers, to lure the Titans out and, once again, separate Robin from the rest of the group so that the dust could take effect.
- Alternatively, it was a dead-man's switch, and the dust had settled on the mask and just came up with it when Robin picked it up.
- Or the butler did it. It's always the butler.
- Hey leave Alfred out of this, the man's a saint.
- Actually in the earlier episodes Slade had a butler named Wintergreen.
- Hey leave Alfred out of this, the man's a saint.
- The Joker did it. Yeah.
- Slade hired Scarecrow to help. Come on, it's clearly his fear gas!
- Also, when she gets angry, she starts to channel some of Trigon, hence the evil eyes / sharp-toothed Slasher Smile / black tentacles.
- Also, since Raven draws her power from Trigon, this would mean that whenever she uses her powers, she draws Trigon a little closer to this dimension. That's why, even though she could defeat almost any villain (as long as they did not imprison her), she uses her powers sparingly and never to their full extent
- Alternatively, Raven draws her powers from her own soul (her "soulself" being Soulfire, only it's black because she is half-demon) which is why when she uses her powers too much (like the first time she Mind Raped Doctor Light) she goes all demonic, since at those times she actually has less soul.
- Don't worry, there'll be heroes to beat him back then too. Maybe a legion of them.
- Alternatively, she may've actually prevented the apocalypse, but pretty much gave up her soul to do so. She then was reborn as "White Raven".
In the comics Blackfire's hate for her sister came from the fact that Blackfire was suppose to be next in line for the throne but because she couldn't fly she was considered crippled by Tameranean standards and wasn't deemed fit to rule by her people so her younger sister was next in line. However in the animated series Blackfire can fly so that doesn't work, but, in Betrothed we see that Blackfire is the only Tamarenean to not have red hair and orange skin so it's very possible Blackfire was considered deformed on her planet so like the comics her little sister was made next in line (Starfire even mentions being next in line for the throne) , which angered Blackfire causing her to betray Tamaran to the Gordanians who then captured Starfire as a prize (as seen in Go)
- A sound theory, but it doesn't quite hold when you read the show's tie-in comics, issue Wildfire. We're shown a more in-depth look at Starfire's backstory, including a few shots of her parents. Blackfire gets her looks from their mother.
- In "Betrothed" there are a couple of background Tamaraneans with dark hair.
- They may still be considered freaks, a genetic mutation that occurs every now and again. However, it might be that it only very rarely is passed down from parent to child, which is why they let Starfire's mother marry her father (but not considered a true member of the royal family)...only for their oldest child to inherit the freaky genes. (...What're you looking at me like that for? It is a WMG page.)
- Another possibility can be that she was disowned for turning Purple instead of a monster, or some other Tameranean biological stages didn't come out "right."
- They may still be considered freaks, a genetic mutation that occurs every now and again. However, it might be that it only very rarely is passed down from parent to child, which is why they let Starfire's mother marry her father (but not considered a true member of the royal family)...only for their oldest child to inherit the freaky genes. (...What're you looking at me like that for? It is a WMG page.)
- Alternately, it's Starfire who's considered a freak (remember, kindness = weakness on Tamaran). Blackfire might be closer to the Tamaran ideal, and is lashing out at Starfire because she's different, and because she represents a part of Tamaran that wants to be different.
- Also, it's noted in the comics that some—but not all—of Starfire and Blackfire's powers come from science experiments they underwent. Extrapolating from this, previous powers like flight might have come from species-wide super soldier programs the Tameraneans did to themselves in the past.
- He wore sunglasses. You couldn't see his eyes anyway.
- Even if you could see his eyes, most people may not have looked closely enough to care. That said, loads of people gave him funny looks when he walked into that bar, and the detective recognised him.
- If you'll allow "Asian" to include "Arab", then Robin could possibly be Damian Wayne. And the people in the bar would still see through his "disguise".
- So she WASN'T annoyed by Beast Boy's "told-you-so"?
- Nah, she was probably annoyed, it was just magnified due to her cycle. Her anger is like the sun, her cycle is like the magnifying glass, and BB just happened to be the poor ant who annoyed her. XD
- Her Bizarre Demon Biology may mean it only happens once a year or less, the first of which was what provided Trigon the chance to break through.
- OR, she felt their UST, and it made her realise her feelings for Beast Boy. She tried to reject those feelings, making her much more snappy against him than usual. Since Trouble In Tokyo is the last we see of the Titans (at least, their animated counterparts - I've never read Teen Titans Go!, so I don't now if that carries on after the show), she may well admit her feelings later on... [BB x Rae shipper]
- OR MAYBE, just maybe, she wanted Robin for herself, and was frustrated that the inevitable was occurring without her having a say, and BB just happened to be a really convenient target for her frustration.
- In Apprentice: Part 2, during Robin's temporary absence, it is shown (or at least heavily implied) that Cyborg is acting as leader, so it is also heavily implied that Cyborg is second in command. This is backed up during the episodes with the Titans East, where it is shown that Cyborg is a good leader and secretly yearns to be one, which would make sense if he were second in command.
- Considering how Cyborg and Beast Boy are such close friends, they may share the position of second-in-command.
- Except that for them, they're writing Real-Person Fic!
- Robin and Starfire are canonically shipped on the internet in-universe, so this makes perfect sense.
- Alternatively, the Chief was evil like in the Grant Morrison run, and they found out and locked him up.
- Also alternatively the Doom Patrol's run was exactly the same as the comics up until their would-be deaths. The Patrol are all stuck on the island and are faced with letting fourteen people in a small fishing town die or let themselves be killed. Meanwhile Rouge and Captain Zahl are waiting for their choice, and everyone's powers are disabled except for the Chief since he was a cripple. Something happens (the Chief probably finds the bomb somehow) and the Chief alone is killed on the island while the rest of the Patrol is left alive. Rouge murders Zahl in a fit of rage since only Caulder was killed instead of their enemies as well, which is why Captain Zahl was never seen on the show. Rouge's good personality permanently dies with Caulder and she goes back to the Brotherhood after they are revealed to be alive and cuts her hair or something. Mento takes over as the leader, but the Patrol begins to fracture since he was never a very good strategist. Without proper emotional help from the trauma of the Chief's death Rita becomes dependent and submissive to Mento, Larry becomes more sarcastic and even more pessimistic than usual, and Cliff starts acting more and more distant to others and losing his humanity, causing him to become Dumb Muscle.
- This makes sense. A lot of the stuff that happens in “Fractured” isn’t too dissimilar to the normal Animesque cartoonish exaggerations that occur all the time (or in the case of mouths falling off, exactly the same). "Fractured" is a Self-Insert Fic for Larry and his presence in the world he created means that for the first and only time, the characters are aware of all the wacky stuff that normally occurs.
A Machine
Let's think about it, shall we? She can't be bargained or reasoned with. She doesn't feel pity, remorse, or fear. And she absolutely will not stop, ever, until her target is dead. Not to mention the fact she's Nigh-Invulnerable. As for her origin, Sky Net sent 2 T-x's back in time to kill John Connor. The Terminator that made it was the one in Rise of the Machines. The first one, however, was accidentally sent to the Teen Titans universe and lost its memory. It was discovered by the Brotherhood, and they Promptly trained her to their ways. They called her... Madame Rouge!
- I also expect someone to say "Where's Arnold Schwarzenegger when you need him?" every time she appears on screen.
A sentient blob of mud
It at least explains the strangely disgusting way she reforms when she's literally blown to bits.
- So she's Clayface?
Exactly as she was in the original comics
Self-explanatory.
A GholamShe's a cold-blooded, brutal assassin, she can bend and twist her body in all sorts of unnatural ways, she's nigh-on unkillable- it all fits! She doesn't drink blood like a gholam does, but it could easily be handwaved that she does, but we just don't see it because it wouldn't get past the censors. Overall, her resemblance to this creature is rather scary...
An Alien Shapeshifter
- Interesting pun there; you misspelled "heroin" as "heroine", but the phrase still fits his character; in the comics, Speedy was both a heroin addict and an insufferable womanizer.
- ...so Tara can hear how things are spelled, then?
- Tara is pronounced with a hard A so it's like Tar(as in the stuff used on roads)-a
- No they're pronounced the same way
- actually they are pronounced differently
- It depends on the person. My sister's friend's named Tara, pronouced Tear-a. My friend Tara's name's pronounced Tahr-a.
- ...so Tara can hear how things are spelled, then?
- That and the fact that the H.I.V.E Mistress was on a milk carton in a blink-and-miss-it cameo, means he may have gotten his hands dirty too.
- The academy's full name is the "HIVE Academy for Extraordinary Young People", which I always took to mean that the Academy was originally a subsidiary of the HIVE organization (since that acronym stands for something completely different), existing to train agents both for the HIVE's own use and to hire out as mercenaries. Then Blood came in, did something to the Headmistress (killed her himself, had someone else do it, Mind Raped her into a coma, etc.) and used his powers to take over and start running the Academy as his own private army, without anyone actually high up at the HIVE being able to do anything about it.
- Robin, having recently struck out on his own, decided to establish himself as a hero in his own right. He knew that Jump City had a major problem with "weird" crime, so he thought it was as good a place as any to start.
- Beast Boy's reasons were probably pretty much the same, except that he left the Doom Patrol, rather than Batman.
- Raven likely had a premonition of some sort that something big was going to happen there, and she needed to be involved.
- Cyborg might just be from Jump City, either originally or because he moved there after his "accident". Note that he makes reference to his neighborhood- that level of protectiveness and possessiveness makes it seem like he's been there a while.
- Or it could have been an external influence - in the comics, Raven came to the Titans to ask for help to fight Trigon. Maybe the people of Azarath - perhaps Azar herself - used a supernatural influence to drive all of the Titans there and keep them together, because she knew Raven would need help to fight the prophecy.
- Only hole being the established character histories of both Slade and Robin, wherein Robin is an orphan.
- So was Luke Skywalker.
- This Robin is Dick Grayson; he watched his father die. Unless his mom had an affair about 16 or 17 years ago...
- Alternately, the entire show takes place on her fridge. Every character, except possibly Cyborg (because it's his grandmas fridge), isn't real in-universe.
- I always assumed it was because she never consciously spoke in English. Rather, the kiss she had with Robin gave her the ability to translate sentences "on the way out." That it, she thinks and forms the sentences in Tameranian, but her mouth forms them in English instead. That's why she is unable to use contractions or understand idioms- because those are "shortcuts" used by people who actually speak the language and apply meaning to the words.
- Above theory supported by this non-native English speaker.
- It might also have something to do with the fact that (since this Robin is Dick Grayson) English is like, his second or third language. True, he's been speaking it fluently for a long time and is clearly very comfortable with it, but the language transfer might have gotten the best results out of his first language, and progressively more garbled for the rest. So Starfire might be able to speak Romani like she's been doing it her whole life, but English is more awkward for her, due to it being more awkward for Robin. He's just had longer to smooth out the bumps. Not to mention that if you're the adopted kid of a billionaire and constantly dealing with American high society, he probably cleaned up his english really fast to avoid harrasment, whereas Starfire is an extremely powerful alien superhero that flies, and mostly interacts with her team. If anyone bothers her over questionable english, they probably regret it very, very quickly.
- Above theory supported by this non-native English speaker.
So now, we have Cyborg likely beginning to question himself and everything he's doing. The next really big event for the Titans was Terra, and her betrayl of them to Slade. This cut Beast Boy deep, and with his best friend getting broody, BB doesn't have much interms of outlets. He devots himself to video games exclusively (well, more than he already does), spending whatever free time he has playing them.
Then, there's Robin, and the events of Haunted. He survives the Mind Rape, but it comes extremely close to killing him. This serves to increase his obsession with finding and catching Slade, and, at this point, the only one truly concerned is Raven, but her own problems rear their ugly head a short while later. Just before this, however, we have the Titans East two parter, where, in this No-Starfire timeline, Cyborg decides to stay at East, eventually joining the Hive.
Now, back to Raven. Robin does what he can to help her try to avert the prophecy of Trigon's arrival, and Raven does find a way to keep him off of Earth - at a VERY high cost. Whatever she does, she is now a shell of her former self, possibly even insane.
With his friends gone through the various paths described, Robin is the only one still devoted to crime-fighting, maybe moreso with his Slade obsession. If we take into account the events of the episode X, Robin also has doubts about being a Hero, and eventually leaves the identity of Robin behind, not wanting to sully the work of Bruce and everything he does. People would think differently about Batman if there's a Robin out not acting neccesarily heroic, after all. So, he becomes someone more Anti-Hero - Nightwing.
- Except that early in the episode, the bell-chime things broke and scattered on the floor. They were still there 20 years later, implying that the Titans had broken up very quickly after Starfire left, either that same day or immediately after.
Bruce felt he needed to do an unorthodox method of making sure Robin would be ready-so he created an alternate personality, Slade. This personality was just like Batman, only willing to go to extremes to accomplish his goals. Most villains beyond the Big Bads were simply metahumans he gathered, and paid money to be villains-so Robin and his friends would have someone to fight against, for training against real threats.
When Robin completely refused to be Slade's apprentice, the Slade persona changed. It lost its Well-Intentioned Extremist side, becoming Batman's Superpowered Evil Side. After being killed and later resurrected by Trigon,Slade became the dominant personality. However Bruce's personality still existed, and hoped that, by becoming flesh and blood, he'd regain control.
- Doing what, exactly? I could buy "Testing Robin" for most of season one, since Robin's the main target throughout those episodes and at least some of the stolen tech is from Wayne Enterprises, so it wouldn't take much of a stretch to say the rest of it was as well (or was covertly owned by Bruce anyway). But when season two roles around, he shifts his focus to breaking Terra and then conquering the city with her and his robot army, and in season four he literally makes a Deal with the Devil and brings hell to earth. I can't see Batman at his worst approving of that; if Slade started out working for him, he almost certainly went rogue at some point, likely between the first and second arcs.
In the comics at least, she freely admits that can learn a language from any contact, but she prefers kissing. Why? I theorize that it's because the digestive enzymes in saliva act as a catalyst that speeds up the process. Much like the myelin sheathes on the axons in the human brain regarding electrical conduction, saliva between the two points of contact speeds the process up to almost "instantaeneous."
- Either that, or it was a Love at First Sight thing, and Starfire just wanted an excuse to kiss Robin without letting her guard down. Why did she kiss that boy in Tokyo? Um...he reminded her of Robin??? Or she remembered and was embarrassed about what happened in Go! and wanted to keep her excuse believable and consistent.
Slade knew that the prophesy must be fulfilled, but also recognized that the prophesy only stated that Trigon would come to earth, not that Trigon would rule Earth forever. He decided to ensure Trigon's ascension and was rude to him to convince Trigon to renege on their deal, at which point, Slade set in motion Trigon's downfall by leading Robin to Raven.
- I always got the impression that they were playing each other, and Slade won. Heck, in one of my fanfics I have him take credit for Trigon's defeat during a conversation with Robin (which Robin doesn't take well.
- OR, he ensured Trigon's ascension, planning to later take over Trigon's reign using his master manipulation and Determinator skills. Thus he would have supernatural powers and the world at his feet. Unfortunately, Trigon let him go before his true plans came to fruition.
This probably isn't even true, but seriously, his power just happens to look exactly like Raven's???
- Raven's powers are caused by her demon heritage. This might mean that 'Larry' is also half-demon (based on the theory below - that Jinx is half-demon because she has greyish skin, like Raven, and other improbable colouring - this may well be true, since we can't see his physical features, so he could also have greyish skin).
Think about it. Raven's greyish skin tone? Probably caused by her demon heritage...now notice that Jinx ALSO had a greyish skin tone. Raven has improbable blue hair and blue eyes; Jinx has improbable pink hair and pink eyes (with slit pupils, to boot) - hell, Jinx even has horn-shaped hair! They're both magical action girls with dark powers (that glow - their eyes both glow as well); the difference is that Raven went down the Bad Powers, Good People route, whilst Jinx believed in Bad Powers, Bad People.
- Alternatively, she was a mafia princess who was spliced up at a young age as an experimental cancer treatment. She also learned about her family's doings at a young age, perhaps by watching her Dad or Uncles "collect insurance". She also witnessed the gruesome murder of one of a stool pigeon (who may have been an older brother, or some other extremely close relation), and fearing the same could happen to her, was to afraid to join the heros.
- Perhaps Kyd Wykkyd is part-demon as well- he certainly looks a lot like Raven, and his powers are similar too, from what we see. Maybe he's even full demon- him being The Voiceless because he has no interest in speaking to "common mortals" has a certain appeal.
- energy manipulation works too
- Or Wizardry
This is not supernatural in any way; it is a mental thing. In Apprentice: Part One, he can take down Cinderblock so easily because he thinks that Slade is about to freeze his city. Note: Slade. His hatred and anger for the man fueled his strength.
- And their outdated speech.
- TOR, GOD OF TUNDER.
- Maybe the HIVE Academy is part of the Brotherhood of Evil, and they are all training to be soldiers for that organization.
- Which would explain the high(?) expectations the Brotherhood had for the HIVE 5. They might have been waiting for Jinx to turn them into an actual good villain team before asking them to join, and why the HIVE 5 (sans Jinx) were at the final battle.
- Actually, there's a possible basis for this in the show, given that the fire-ax he picked up is staying lit throughout his part in the final battle with Trigon.
Also, it's more plausible, since...well, a bullet through the eye is bound to get into your brain as well, and even Slade would probably not survive that.
- So, Slade comes home one night crazier than usual. His wife gets the kitchen knife to defend herself. He doesn't like that. Not. One. Bit. So - with his son watching - he takes the knife to her, laughing while he does it! Turns to his son, and he says, "Why so serious, son?" Comes at him with the knife... "Why so serious?" He sticks the blade in his mouth. "Let's put a smile on that face!" And... why so serious?
Look at the twins. Then Plusle and Minun. It's the logical conclusion.
Basically, it was intentional on the creators part.
- If it was intentional on the writers' part, that's basically intentionally invoking Villain Decay, not averting it, which renders this WMG Null and Void.
- Actually, we would call that a Villainous Breakdown, not Villain Decay.
- I like it.
- What natural language? There's no indication in the comics or the TV show that the people of Azarath don't speak English. Raven spoke it easily in "Go!".
- Do you mean the spells Raven chants occasionally? (Like in "The Prophecy" Raven starts saying a long string of words after her usual "Azarath, Metrion, Zinthos" to create a portal to Azarath) I don't know if she was speaking an actual language or reciting a spell right then though... It doesn't help that we never see anyone who's actually from Azarath (Arella was a human who lived on Earth originally, if I remember correctly I think she ended up in Azarath after trying to commit suicide or something..) If there IS an actaul language for Azarath, then Raven speaking English can easily be Hand Waved by her being very intelligent/learning to speak it before arriving on Earth.(Arella could have taught her English if none of the other monks spoke it.) There's also the fact that despite not having grown up on Earth, Raven is never fazed by anything around her anymore than the boys who have lived their whole lives there.
- Raven's hatred and dislike of Terra come from the fact that she is having a hard time suppressing a crush on Terra (her first crush, most likely) and she tries hard not to feel emotion. This is why she's so on Terra's case about control: Raven is projecting.
- That episode is used as evidence for Ravenx BB shippers as well. Maybe its a combination of jealousy and attraction.
- A powerful magic-user who fights evil, is the brains of her team, and almost ends the world after Terra's death? You have the wrong show.
- Don't forget that she only stops after her Badass Normal blackhaired male best friend talks her down. And she goes all white after she uses her magic to win the decisive final battle against evil.
- Her interaction with Robin are either If It's You, It's Okay or her attempts at familial closeness (given than the closest thing Raven has anyone treating her with familial affection is Mother Mae-Eye).
- When she makes the emotional link with Robin, she feels and is totally alright with, his love for Starfire, but at the same does at no point before or after does she play Shipper on Deck; maybe she just liked have a "justified" reason to have a crush on another girl that she could reason "was someone else's emotions".
- In alternative continuity, Jossed: Raven and Beast Boy are an official couple in the newer comic series. Doesn't mean she doesn't go both ways...
- She probably is. The fragment of her power that she gave to the rest of the team how had no real idea how to use her power was enough to make a god (Trigon is basically Satan, but it counts) scream in pain. He could turn the earth to a cinder just with his presence. She's his daughter. The mixed blood may degrade her power a bit, but if not for the possibility of turning into Trigon-lite she'd be able to think her enemies away.
B: The kinda cuckoo one, but my personal favorite: Trigon did it during the events of The End. He tried to get Malchior to join him, but, being an independent agent, Malchior distracted Trigon long enough to fly off to a cave somewhere and hunker down, and Trigon couldn't be bothered with killing him. Again, given that Raven probably isn't going to be checking that book to make sure he's still in there, she likely never noticed he was gone until he joined up with the Brotherhood of Evil.
- Somewhat contradicted by how Raven is able to beat him in "The End, Part III", since it's her drawing the power from him that makes it able to hurt him.
- Robin is heir to Wayne Enterprises.
- Cyborg's dad is a well scientist in Star Labs. So by proxy, he gets his pay from Green Arrow.
- Raven is Trigon's daughter. Even if she didn't exploit that for tribute money, surely there were some valuable artifacts she took from Azarath with her to hawk.
- Starfire is princess and heir to the Tamaranian throne. With Robins scientific mind he is able to help her gain earth's wealth in exchange for any metallic currency from her homeworld.
- Beast Boy is heir to Dayton Estates. Though despite that it seems he'd rather mooch off of the other Teammates for more than just pizza money.
- Specifically, it's a Hellmouth. As we see in The End, a demon (Trigon) manages to, through having his minion Slade split Raven's blood, manifest and end the world (temporarily). The Jump City Hellmouth is particularly wide: it stretches from the underground library to directly under the Titans' Tower. Everyone besides the Titans were frozen, so the Scoobies couldn't get there in time to help.
- Also, when Slade was tunneling under the Tower, toppling the Tower was just a fringe benefit. He was already working for Trigon, and wanted to clear a path to the Hellmouth and make it easy to access.
- Trigon is the physical manifestation of The First.
C'mon, being surrounded by a constant whirring and grinding of gears would send anyone a little crazy.
The clicking of gears, just like the sound of drums, or for that matter, bells.
Plus, in the comics, the DP have an unfortunate habit of... well, dying. More so than other comic characters.
- Alternately, Trigon looked into the future and knew where his daughter would be, then transported some cultists from somewhere else (Europe? Egypt?) there to build the temple and conceal it.
- Jossed by Whedon: at least according to Buffy the Vampire Slayer that's exactly what California is. Jump City is just a few hours away from Sunnydale, and the ruins are there because the followers of Trigon do not play well with others, and found that Jump City was close enough to be convenient, but not so close that they were constantly fighting with other cults.
1. Her quasi-demonic metabolism is incredibly efficient. An apple a day may just be enough to do it for her.
2. She has to consume something gross or disturbing; if she's got to chug a pint of fresh blood or somesuch a day in order to meet her body's requirements, no wonder she doesn't do it in public (or on-screen).
3. She's not just The Empath, she actually feeds on emotion. In that case, just being around people (and while she's a loner by nature, she does live in a building with four other teens whom she is certainly going to encounter even if they don't have a mission that day) is enough to keep her energized.
4. She doesn't actually eat anything different than a mortal girl would, and we just don't see her at it because she doesn't eat a lot (like Beast Boy and Cyborg) or eat very strange things (like Starfire).
5. Waffles. It's established that she likes them 'more than life itself'...
- In the same sense that Lex Luthor or Darkseid would care for their children, tough love and having them earn it. He doesn't know how to display the human version of love and caring so he makes up for it by pushing her to her limits. He could have easily killed her and The Titans during The End parts I-III but didn't. The end of the world thing was simply a coming of age ritual amongst demons, though for a full demon it would be them taking over the world and since Raven isn't the type to do that Trigon bent the rules a bit just for her. He is still a complete bastard, but thats just how all demons are.
- Robin went off to become Nightwing due to wangst over suddenly losing her and not being able to save her.
- Beast Boy gave up and let himself go.
- Cyborg tried to hold the team together, but ended up unable to leave his charging point at the Tower.
- Raven went insane due to losing her friends.
Initially, there was the Church of Blood, evolved like in the comics, until they tried to expand in America, where the Gotham branch got Arella in their ranks and gave her to Trigon as a bride before running afoul of the League of Assassins. Between the losses from the various assassinations and Ra's al Ghul telling a young Batman who the Church of Blood adored when he came to investigate, the Church was broken up, and Brother Blood had to go underground for years.
When the League stops searching for him, Blood starts recreating the Church to both prepare Earth for the coming of Trigon and get his revenge on Ra's al Ghul, using the Hierarchy of International Vengeance and Extermination name and a council of 'associates' (actually mind-controlled) as cover. Everything is going right, with H.I.V.E. even establishing an academy to train superpowered agents, when some major snafu happens: first Raven arrives in town, unconsciously attracted by the presence of Brother Blood; then, about at the same time, Beast Boy and Robin (two veteran superheroes, with one of them being the sidekick of the goddamn' Batman) arrive to investigates on a series of metahuman crimes; finally, the threath of an alien attack on Jump City gets Raven, Beast Boy, Robin, a local cyborg vigilante that was giving them some minor trouble and what is a (relatively) low-powered version of Superman to form the Teen Titans.
An Oh, Crap! later, the H.I.V.E. hires a very capable mercenary calling himself Ravager (Grant Wilson) to kill the Titans. This brings Blood to start disposing of the H.I.V.E. council for endangering the daughter of Trigon (the headmistress will survive, having caught on what was happening and quitting), while Ravager is Finger Poke of Doom-ed to death by Starfire.That brings Ravager's father, Deathstroke the Terminator, to take the job, after renouncing to go by the name Deathstroke because Blood argued that it was embarassing (and that making sense even coming from someone calling himself Brother Blood had quite the effect).
Season one follows, with Slade having access to the H.I.V.E. resources (and the demon summoning coming from Brother Blood). Then Slade has to take a pause when Bill Walsh takes the name of Ravager and kidnaps Jericho, resulting in him becoming mute (the second Ravager exists too, but got an heart attack when he was confronted by not only Batman (who here adopts Tim Drake to serve as the third Robin, with Jason having been Robin alongside Dick and his death being one of the factors getting Dick to go solo) but also the Teen Titans and Slade, who had heard about another Ravager and came to check).
Season two follows, and as Brother Blood finally takes full control of the H.I.V.E. and starts micromagaging everything Slade makes his final attempt at fulfilling Grant's contract, resulting in Terra killing him.
Season three follows, with Brother Blood activating the allucinatory trap on Slade's outfit in a desperate attempt to get rid of the Titans after Robin recognized him and tipped Batman, resulting in Ra's al Ghul setting his assassins on the H.I.V.E. proper when Barbara Gordon or Zatanna tells him who is the leader of the H.I.V.E. (thus explaining Brother Blood's personnel problems and not bringing in the big guns: the League of Assassins has broken the H.I.V.E. with a few well-placed assassinations of key personnel). Brother Blood dies in prison shortly after being arrested, officially of brain hemorragia due the imperfect cyborgization (everyone knows it was actually the League of Assassins, but they left no evidence save for Talia's favorite lipstick being left around as a calling card).
Then the Gordianans attacked, causing their parents to send Wildfire away to preserve the succession, and when they produced ships armed with Wave Motion Guns with a too great range Blackfire decided it was time to throw out pride and act smartly: Starfire was given to them as slave, but had instructions to cripple the ship near Earth and make enough of a mess to get the attention of the local Green Lantern alongside the rest of the Justice League of America. The plan worked (with the JLA arriving after the future Titans had assembled), but Blackfire failed to warn Wildfire, who gave chase and got lost.
Starfire settling on Earth got their parents sick, and Blackfire went on Earth to test Starfire's friend and see if it was better taking her back or letting her stay on Earth. Thus, she hired two alien stuntmen and faked framing Star for a theft that never happened (the jewel was actually a fake, or legally aquired). Thus Blackfire's debut episode and her deciding it was better to let her stay on Earth without knowing about their parents' sickness until a new Grand Ruler had been instated (possibly Blackfire herself), only leaving a message where she revealed the prank after leaving as a 'prisoner'.
In the process she realized that Starfire and Robin were in love, and, due having encountered Batman and co. while she made sure they wouldn't interfere with her test, realized that they would probably never go anywhere due Star's shyness and Robin having been raised by Batman. Thus, after taking over as Grand Ruler and Starfire reaching puberty, she put up a Batman Gambit: getting Starfire's worst-looking and physically weaker suitor to fake an invasion to justify the arranged marriage and have him aquire and give Blackfire the Jewel of Charta to augmented the power of her starbolt, so that Robin would be forced to defeat the groom in combat and become the groom himself with Blackfire now too powerful in case Starfire decided to challenge her for the throne. Sadly, right before Robin could challenge the groom Starfire actually managed to defeat her sister, taking over just long enough to annull the marriage and banish Blackfire.
At that point Blackfire decided to get back at her sister for what she had done, and arrived on Earth. Once there, she met Madame Rouge, who provided some (interested) help in dealing with what had happened on Tamaran and nearly convinced her to join the Brotherhood of Evil. Ultimately Blackfire refused, and actually saved Starfire when she was overwhelmed by Killer Moth's giant moths, having chased the insect fanatic and his daughter when they stole her supply of zorka berries (hey, it's not like she could come back and resupply!) to have their mutant moths go Mothra.
After that, Blackfire tried to get revenge on her sister as detailed in Teen Titans Go!!, ending in prison after getting her ass handed to her by Wonder Girl. Not being stupid enough to run afoul of her again, Blackfire decides to serve her sentence peacefully, and maybe was starting to reform... When a pissed off Starfire confronts her, accuses her of having sent Madame Rouge disguised as Wildfire after her and denounces her as a sister. Madame Rouge had actually used the informations extracted by Blackfire when she tried to have join the Brotherhood, but Blackfire is innocent... And reduced to a nervous wreck by Starfire righteous but bad-aimed fury.
- Raven: Evil beware. We have waffles.
- Maybe she's talking about the waffle she hides under her leotard, and she wants Cyborg's breakfast sausage...
- What "breakfast sausage"? He's a robot.
- That doesn't mean that he doesn't still have one - it could've been salvaged, or he has an artificial sausage...
- We're all going to hell for even discussing this.
- What "breakfast sausage"? He's a robot.
At the end of that episode, he revealed how much he trusted the Titans now, enough to reveal who he actually was.
His motive? Maybe he decided that he wanted to be even more powerful, or that he wanted to destroy the organics on his own, and the rest of his kind wouldn't allow it, so he decided to defeat the Locrix first before he launches the next stage of his plan (which the Teen Titans helped him to do, unwittingly increasing the threat the galaxy, which may come back to bite them later - ''hard''). Or he genuinely decided that what the Locrix is doing is wrong, and that he should stop them.
Of course, he still has this in-built prejudice against organics. Whether or not he's trying to stop the Locrix crusade or to take it over for himself, he struggles to hide it in order to present himself as against this racism / suppress it as he knows on a high level of thinking that it's wrong, since it's hard-wired into him. So, he takes it out on Starfire.
- Main issue with this one is that he displayed no prejudice towards other organics, and in fact none at all until he saw Starfire. I think his Fantastic Racism is specific to Tamaranians.
This is why her emotions in "Nevermore" have different coloured cloaks - because she knows this, so this carries over to her mind.
The series still had too of crossed over with Static Shock at some times (Batman did say that "Robin is with the Titans") and the Titans go Comics, at very least, had to happen after the beginning of Justice League (Beast Boy did mention Wonder Woman once), and some of the Titans looked up to those considered the "World's Greatest Heroes," but by the time the Unlimited rolled around, many of the Titans were inducted in the League as "reserves," or possibly all of them did (we did see Speedy with the same voice and look of his Titans form at one point), just becoming a training ground for future Leaguers.
- The major problem with this theory is that the DCAU Robin during that timeframe was Tim Drake, while DCAU Dick Grayson had already moved on to become Nightwing. Teen Titans Robin was heavily hinted, and eventually confirmed by the tie-in comics, to be Grayson, and seemed to be younger than he was ever depicted in the DCAU going all the way back to his first appearance in Batman: The Animated Series. This would be a continuity snag that would be impossible to overcome.
Comedians in real life often do have a TON of emotional issues, with depression being among the most common. Beast Boy's life in the show and the comics really is the worst of any of the Titans, Raven and Robin don't have nothing on him. His parents died/were killed, he was turned green, his second family were a group of Blood Knights ready to die just for the sake of dying (who, at very least, overworked and unintentionally abused him emotionally, bad enough to make him run away), he never had much school or friends, spent long stretches of his life alone, has an insane raging monster inside of him, and first real relationship betrayed and tried to kill him. That's just the stuff we are sure is CANON. Beast Boy is a Sad Clown to insane extremes. He tries to make others laugh in a vain hope of keeping their attention and friendship, except he doesn't have any comedic talent of many other sad clowns. If Raven went into his mind, she would be scared of the sadness in Beast Boys soul.
- Consider this when Beast Boy brings up her criminal past at the pizza parlor she gets uncomfortable and makes up an excuse to leave she even ask him "Why would you want to be friends with someone who was so much trouble? Everytime Beast Boy brings up something about her she's quick to contradict him. Then in her final encounter she says something to the effect of "Things were never the way you remembered them" in response to Beast Boy asking her why things couldn't go back to the way they were before. There's also hints like Raven suggesting that Terra didn't want to be found and Slade outright stating she was choosing not to remember
- None of the other Titans ever see Terra (nor her missing from the pedestal)
- Beast Boy sees her just after getting knocked on the head
- She tends to disappear suddenly
So Beast Boy could have suffered a concussion and think he saw Terra, maybe projecting her image on a random girl. Actually, the whole episode could be a dream from Beast Boy (including his team fighting a villain and not be able to win without him), and the end (with him running toward a wall of light) him waking up.
Raven, likely having been excluded by her peers on Azarath (perhaps the fellow kids bullied her for being half-demon..? She also appears to be somewhat small for her age, even as a teenager...), probably had an imaginary friend as a young child to keep from being lonely. Still learning how to use and control her powers and abilities, she likely blamed every negative reaction on said imaginary friend out of fear of being reprimanded for messing up.
Her mother, and the monks of Azarath that helped to look after her, probably allowed this behavior for a few years, into she got to Melvin's age or near it, and finally told her that she was "big girl" and needed to take responsibility for her powers, both good and bad.
This probably helped her to focus and channel them better, learning to embrace them as an extension of herself, instead of being ashamed and fearing the bad part of them. Raven would eventually learn to use all her abilities for the sake of good, which led to her being the heroine she is today.
Raven saw herself in Melvin, and wanted to spare the kid the same hardship she faced, as well as help Melvin start her personal journey of being part of the next generation of Titans, and not be fearful or ashamed of her powers. Perhaps Raven's words to Melvin were much like the ones her mother had told her at that age?
- The first was The Scarecrow, who had battled Batman and Robin in the past and had a score to settle. He supplied the Fear toxin (in both gaseous and dust form) for Robin to inhale.
- The second was Slade's butler and ally, Wintergreen (from episode 1) aka Mr. What Happened to the Mouse?. Wintergreen would be the one to activate the device if Slade happened to perish.
- As for his whereabouts; Wintergreen never realized Slade survived during the events of Season 4 and made a clean getaway. Wintergreen had been seen with the H.I.V.E. Headmistress, and later showed up with the Brotherhood of Evil (and was frozen). He may have lived a happy life full of love and crime and never realized his master had returned.
- Robin did the rest, when his obsessive behavior made him go down to look and hold the mask which activated Scarecrow's gas.
- This sort of came true. He did start a new team of Titans (minus the "Teen") consisting of the original Teen Titans lineup (including the original Wally West); however this occurred after the New 52 had already concluded.
- What's more that employer is Joker....
- When did the Joker give a flying batshit about Batboob's bird brain sidekick and his little friends?
- Since Batboob started giving a flying batshit about his bird brain sidekick.
- When did the Joker give a flying batshit about Batboob's bird brain sidekick and his little friends?
- A rogue clone of The Flash created by Cadmus.
- The Flash's Kid from the Future or Identical Grandson from the future.
In Titans Together after Robin was captured, the other Titans used Beast Boy as bait to find the Brotherhood's hideout, as well as a distraction while the others regroup. Robin's capture wouldn't be enough to break the Titans, they've operated without him before with Cyborg assuming command. The other Titans must have been working together since they were able to launch a coordinated surprise attack (with matching dialog even.) After Robin's capture the Titan's went to ground and regrouped with whatever other survivors they could rally. Knowing that Beast Boy and the Brotherhood's past history would lead to further confrontation, Cyborg ordered the other Titans with their teams to hold back and track Beast Boy and his ad-hoc team until they either located and penetrated the Brotherhood's base, or were captured. With the Brotherhood distracted by Beast Boys efforts, the Titans were able to set up a coordinated counter-assault, winning the day.
- Robin: 16/17/18. He has a motorcycle he drives by season 2 and he moved to Jump City to live by himself, so he likely had some sort of way to get around (driver's license).
- Beast Boy: 13/14/15. He would likely be 13 at the start if they wanted to name their team "Teen" Titans. Otherwise, he's demonstrated himself as the youngest of the group. Terra is likely the same age.
- Cyborg: 17/18/19. Cyborg is generally portrayed as the oldest; Robin says that Cyborg is "old enough to take care of himself" in season 3, implying he's already a legal adult. Cyborg mentioned that because of his accident he never finished high school, so it's possible that he dropped out by the time he was 17.
- Raven: 14/15/16. As it's been discussed before, Raven's birthday in the show is likely her 16th birthday. Besides that, she seems somewhat young, but wise beyond her years, and at least older than Beast Boy.
- Starfire: 15/16/17. By far the most difficult Titan to pin down the age of, but she usually treats Robin as her senior and someone to look to for guidance. Her lack of benchmarks and Tameranian biology make her age pretty vague overall and could be just about anything, but she is younger than Cyborg and most likely older than Beast Boy.
- Alternatively, Slade didn't sexually abuse Robin... but did intend to do so at some point. Their last conversation before being interrupted by the other Titans may have even been building up to it.Robin: I'll do whatever you say.Slade: Good boy. And, from now on, I'd like you to call me master.
- Alternatively, Slade didn't sexually abuse Robin... but did intend to do so at some point. Their last conversation before being interrupted by the other Titans may have even been building up to it.
- This isn´t actually that far away from the truth. It is, in fact, a reboot made by Control Freak.
- This does make sense, although the hallucinations only appearing in the dark is not a usual quality of Scarecrow's normal fear toxin. However, it's been shown on a good number of occasions that the fear toxin can be tailored to act in specific ways, e.g. showing people just hallucinations of scary spiders rather than their true greatest fear. It could be that this is a variant of fear toxin made by and/or for Slade.
Instead, Trigon’s arrival likely came and went the exact same way as in the main timeline, but without the other Titans to properly support her Raven fully blamed herself and isolated herself out of shame, losing her sanity after ~20 years alone.