To-do list:
- Turn Fashion Model into an index called Fashion and Modeling Tropes and move or remove wicks that use it as a trope.
Original post:
As part of a project
of mine, where I tackle some of the chairs-y Occupation Tropes, I decided to start with Fashion Model.
Fashion Model doesn't have any significance other than classifying a character as a model, which makes it not tropeworthy.
The wick check:
- Belly Buttonless: Czech Fashion Model Karolína Kurková (somewhat) famously has no navel. She's never disclosed exactly why, but her lack of a natural belly-button has given rise to accusations of over-airbrushing when she appears in photo spreads. Ironically, this has caused some photo editors to Photoshop one onto her photos, in order to avoid accusations of over photo-editing!
- Characters.A Passion For Revenge: (Irina), In The Fashionista: She's very into fashion and modeling, and her dream is to become a Fashion Model.
- Girliness Upgrade: Keira Knightley's early roles were the likes of Bend It Like Beckham, The Hole, King Arthur (2004), The Jacket and Pirates of the Caribbean - where she had a slightly tomboyish image (she described herself as "a real scruff"). But she soon got typecast as the Spirited Young Lady in period pieces and became a Fashion Model as well. Pride & Prejudice (2005)'s director in fact nearly didn't cast her because he thought she'd be too glamorous to play a Tomboy like Lizzy Bennet.
- In Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, as in the tabletop game, the Nosferatu sometimes inflict their Looks Like Orlok variety of undeath on vain beauties to take them down a notch. One Nosferatu, Imalia, is a former top supermodel... who will pay handsomely to have her Unknown Rival successor's life ruined, suggesting that the lesson in humility didn't stick. Justified, in that she's a fledgling, a newly turned vampire.
- Proud Beauty: Gwen Stacy actually started out this way in Spider-Man, as she got angry at Peter Parker for daring not to be attracted to her, and reflected that "I've never met a boy like him! He didn't even give me a glance!" Fortunately, she got better. Mary Jane Watson and Black Cat play this role more straight due to the former being a Fashion Model/Fanservice Model and the latter being a Sexy Cat Person/Classy Cat-Burglar with a form fitting Spy Catsuit.
- Characters.ANNO Mutationem: (Nakamura), She had a stint of modeling gigs before ultimately settling as the manager for the Sicilian Jar.
- Characters.A Silent Voice: (Miyoko), She does modeling for a club at school. As of Chapter 59, she seems to have a burgeoning career as a runway model.
- Characters.Academy Of Merlin Students: (Chanel ), For the Parcaes. Keeps a strict diet because of it. Not enough useful context
- Characters.Ad Mortem: Luxor's entry under the Capitol Tributes' folder, And a big one in the Capitol, at that!
- Characters.American Beauty: (Angela), what she aspires to be, because "there's nothing worse than being ordinary".
- Characters.Chihayafuru: (Chitose), She works as a model and is quite popular.
- Characters.Crisis Equestria: (Insipid), Becomes one of these with Rarity's help, and is quite successful at it in fact. Her physical resemblence to Rarity plays a big role in that.
- Characters.Dancougar Nova: (Aoi), She models as a side gig.
- Characters.Danganronpa Junko Enoshima: She can be seen modeling her own designs in magazines.
- Characters.Dr Crafty Sasha: In "The Little Purple House," Crystelle reveals that she and Sasha once dabbled in modeling careers at different times. It was through this brief venture that Sasha discovered her love for filmmaking, which she became very successful in.
Crystelle: Sasha has indeed also been in the modeling front, being that exotic, blue-skinned beauty, after all. But she found it more comfortable behind the camera instead. Some people have all the luck, apparently...
- Characters.Earth Twenty Seven Argus And Task Force X: (Catherine), She became a highly renowned fashion model just for fun.
- Characters.Fairy Tail Sirius Team: (Mirajane), She's a famous pinup model for Weekly Sorcerer Magazine.
- Characters.Family Guy The Griffin Family: (Lois), She wanted to be one, and got a job in one episode.
- Characters.Friendship Is Magic Fluttershy: She reluctantly worked as one in an episode because she thought it would make Rarity happy.
- Characters.Heart Catch Pretty Cure Kibogahana: (Momoka), An aspiring model who's something of a celebrity in her hometown.
- Characters.Hollywood Heights: Before even dating Eddie, she has had a very successful modeling career. (She's listed as Beauty Is Bad + being selfish so there's more to her just being a model but as-written it's a ZCE)
- Characters.Homestar Runner Main Characters: (Strong Bad), He puts up pictures to see if he got hired, and was given a job as the model for the "Husky Head" catalog.
- Characters.Kiss Him Not Me: (Nozomu), By the finale, he's become a major fashion model—for women's clothing. Princess Usamin lives on.
- Characters.Love Nikki Dress Up Queen: Under Recurring Opponents, (Sofia) Her day work. She's very, very good at it.
- Characters.Magia Record Dark Magical Girls: (Ria), She works as a model, much like Yachiyo.
- Characters.Marvel Comics Psylocke: She used to be a supermodel before becoming a superheroine. She even posed nude (albeit tastefully, with Toplessness from the Back and a Modesty Bedsheet) for Colossus so he could draw her portrait.
- Characters.Mieruko Chan: (Michiru), She's a popular model of the Chaos Teen magazine.
- Characters.Miraculous Ladybug Marinette Dupain Cheng: In Girly Bruiser: Marinette is a hyperfeminine teenage girl who loves pink is cutesy, bubbly, and romantic, designs and sews her own clothes from scratch (and even models them on occasion), a talented Sweet Baker, and is affectionate with her friends and family, not to mention absolutely smitten with Adrien Agreste (as well as Luka Couffaine for some time). She's also a strong fighter as the superhero Ladybug, and is the protector of Paris, who tends to pick up the slack of her male and more conventionally masculine partner Cat Noir often, even winning in fights against him when he is Brainwashed and Crazy.
- My Hero Academia - Other Heroes: (Uwabami), Her day job. It actually takes up a lot of her time, much to Yaoyorozu and Kendo's exasperation. (This is a side job alongside her heroism job — don't know if this is significant enough tho)
- Characters.Never Have I Ever: (Kamala), In So Beautiful, It's a Curse Kamala laments that she's too curvaceous to be a Fashion Model, when mistaken by a besotted biker for one.
- Characters.One Piece Nami: She gets roped into modeling during the Heroines spinoff novel.
- Characters.Oshi No Ko: (Yuki), Her main occupation, though she also has a knack for acting.
- Characters.Pokemon Adventures Galar: Nessa's entry under Travel Companions Doubles as this along with being Hulbury's Gym Leader.
- Characters.Princess Connect Re Dive: (Suzuna's entry under Twilight Caravan) Her profession.
- Characters.Private Actress: Shuuto is an incredibly handsome and charismatic male model.
- Characters.Rise Of Anatis Miraculous Heroes: Adrien's entry Aspik folder He models for his father's fashion company.
- VideoGame.Barbie Super Model: Barbie's one in this game, as indicated by the title. So several outfits will be tried on.
- D-Cup Distress: Gigi (who is a Fashion Model) in The Neon Demon states that she had a breast reduction among the rest of the cosmetic surgery she had to further her career. Somewhat Truth in Television in that clothes benefit smaller chest sizes in the fashion world. — Character has to modify her body/change herself to be accepted for a modeling job
- Characters.Cardcaptor Sakura: She worked as a successful model, whose beauty inspires both her husband and her own daughter. It's because of the fact that she was a model that Fujitaka still has so many pictures of her and is able to put up a new one each day. — Inspirational job
- Characters.Castle: (Kate) She used to be one for a very brief period of time, but thinks the world of high fashion is more corrupt than the world of criminals. — HF is corrupt
- Characters.Confession Executive Committee: (Sena), Despite being in high school, she also moonlights as a teen model for her job. Her success in-universe also landed her a role in a LIP×LIP music video. In addition to that, she also has a hand in designing clothes, as we can see when she designs one of Mona's stage outfits. — A minor working as a teen model
- Characters.Desperate Housewives Housewives: (Gabrielle), She was an archetypal example in the past, apparently, as a dim and superficial model. She occasionally goes back to it, but mostly to learn her lesson about how she's better off in Wisteria Lane. A superficial model
- Characters.Persona 5 Ann Takamaki: Her part-time job. It becomes an issue in her Confidant where a fellow model objects to Ann only doing it part-time. A minor working as a part-time model + becomes a problem to her
- Characters.Persona Rebirth Taiyoutono: (Isoroku), Isoroku moonlights as a part-time model, which makes her a minor celebrity of sorts. Minor working as a part-time model
- Characters.Please Dont Tell My Parents Im A Supervillain: (The Two Deadly Sins), They were child models for a line of clothing designed for non-standard body types. They still get recognized on occasion. They had to retire before they were teenagers, though, because they were warned that the work was going to start getting uncomfortably sexy very soon. They can start working again when they turn eighteen (no one will use a pre-legal model for that level of fanservice), but they decide they don't like the opportunities offered to sexy devils. Child labor + modeling viewed as a non child/minors-friendly job
- VisualNovel.Lucid 9: Misaki works as one, and it's a demanding enough job that the school is willing to let her leave class as long as she keeps her grades up. In one optional event, if Yama accepts a request from Misaki, Yama can make one of her modeling jobs much more successful by acting out a scene in which they're a couple. — Student has to juggle between school and modeling job
- Characters.Black Cat Marvel Comics: Impossible Hourglass Figure: Like Mary Jane Watson she has curved hips a very volumptuous figure as well as her signature buxom breasts. — Pothole
- Characters.Boku Girl: (Nanatarou), The final chapter shows that Yamada and Tamako eventually reached an understanding with him becoming a lingerie model so she can make him famous across the world. — This is Fanservice Model
- Characters.Death Proof: (Kim), In one of her earlier scenes, she's having Abernathy check if she has a picture in the latest issue of Allure. She does.
- Characters.Earth Twenty Seven Minutemen: (Silk), Pretty much the point of her hero career was this.
- Characters.Lelouch Of The Wings Of Rebellion The Black Knights: Discussed. Milly considers Lelouch would make much more money as one than by his gambling, but he dismisses the possibility because the last thing he needs is for his face to be posted everywhere.
- Characters.Marvel Comics Jean Grey: In an arc in the 60s Jean goes undercover as a swimsuit model. — This is Undercover Model
As we can see, this trope is a ZCE magnet due to its broad name and wide scope. So, I propose the following solutions:
- Give it a nice snip.
- Or turn it into an index/example-less supertrope for Fanservice Model, Fashion Magazine, Fashion Show, Model Couple, Modeling Poses, Rule of Glamorous, and Undercover Model.
- Or disambiguate between the aforementioned tropes.
- Create a Teen Model/Underage Model trope to cover some of the "minors working as models (and perhaps the effects this has on them)" examples, similar to Child Popstar.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 11th 2023 at 8:04:26 AM
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Do we have enough tropes to make that index? I suppose one thing we could do is disambiguate this for now and turn it into an index later like what was done with Adult Fear, so I'm sticking to voting for disambiguating for now.
At the very least, I'd like to see a draft for an index before deciding whether making it through this thread should be on the table, as opposed to leaving it up to TLP.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 5th 2023 at 7:28:17 AM
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Since no one posted it, and in case it becomes relevant, here's the original TLP for this.
Captain of USS Bajor
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By my count we've listed eight tropes just in this thread, counting my previous suggestion of Casting Couch. I'm sure we'll find even more when we go to TLP.
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Well, in that case, I'll change my vote to turning this into an index instead of disambiguating, and I'd prefer renaming it to Modeling Tropes or Modeling Index to make it more clear that it's an index (which would be at least the third time a conversion into an index was accompanied by a rename if we did that, or at least the third time a TRS thread I participated in did that), but I won't complain if people want to keep the name the same while still converting it into an index.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 5th 2023 at 8:53:32 AM
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This is how the index would look like if it's just abt modeling + fashion excl. real modeling creators. (?) means I'm not sure if they're relevant or it's a bit too far.
First established in the 19th century by Charles Frederick Worth who had his wife model the clothes he designed for the first time, modeling became a profession known for being glamorous and haute. Before humans came to model clothes mannequins were used instead.
Here are all the tropes regarding modeling and fashion.
- Action Fashionista: They kick ass while being fashionable and having a diverse wardrobe regardless of its relecance to the plot.
- Beauty Contest: A competition where contestants are evaluated based on their appearance and colorful outfits. (?)
- Casting Couch: Someone who wants to be a model sleeps with a producer to land a modeling job. (?)
- The Dandy: A flamboyant male character who's well-dressed 24/7.
- Eccentric Fashion Designer: Fashion designers are portrayed as quirky, flamboyant, and odd and sometimes they're trendsetters.
- Fanservice Model: A fashion model that specializes in displaying skimpy or barely there clothes.
- Fashionable Asymmetry: The model's clothes are intentionally uneven and they still look great.
- Fashion Designer: A character whose job is designing clothes.
- The Fashionista: Fashion-fixated character who dresses nicely.
- Fashion Magazine: Magazines dedicated to and concerned with the topics of fashion.
- Fashion Show: An event where groups of models wear the newest collections of clothes in front of audiences and cameras.
- Impossibly Cool Clothes: Models wear outfits that are too good to be real.
- Model Couple: These models are paired up because they look good together and complement each other.
- Modeling Poses: Specific stances and moves models do to make clothing look appealing and attractive.
- Model Scam: A character is tricked or scammed with a false promise of a model shoot.
- Rule of Glamorous: Because modeling and fashion are all about elegance, beauty, and glamor.
- Sleazy Photoshoot: A photoshoot that's done by the photographer unethically and inappropriately which makes the model uncomfortable.
- Undercover Model: A female cop/spy is forced to do modeling or other physical-appearance-reliant job.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I think it looks fine.
I think Casting Couch makes sense to include, but I don't think The Dandy or Action Fashionista do since neither are about modeling or the modeling/fashion industry more broadly. The Dandy is any well-dressed and foppish man and Action Fashionista is explicitly about the numerous outfit changes being seemingly not plot relevant/necessary for the combatant (kind of surprised Erza from Fairy Tail is the trope picture for that one, since her outfit changes are actually her ability in action. Also, Fashion Designer seems to be another occupation "trope" that just says "this occupation exists" without much else, especially since Eccentric Fashion Designer exists. But that's a convo for a different TRS thread)
Edited by amathieu13 on Apr 5th 2023 at 7:30:18 AM
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(Well there's a reason why This Image Is Not an Example exists snd Erza can fall under that. Also, yeah I should've made a wick check for Fashion Designer but I skipped it and checked other tropes' wicks idky).
I could be missing even more tropes too.
(re:Erza, I suppose, but she's also listed on the main page, which is somewhat concerning. Makes me feel like people are interpreting that to mean Action Girl + The Fashionista, but I digress.)
Since it was discussed, I drafted out "a high school, part time model" trope and put in on the TLP here.
Edited by amathieu13 on Apr 5th 2023 at 9:09:13 AM
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Tomorrow is the three-day mark, and I feel that it would be safe to make a crowner because it seems that our main options are whether to convert the page into an index, and if so, whether to change the name. I'll put a note on the crowner saying that TLP drafts were proposed and they'll go on the index, but there won't be any crowner options directly regarding them since they can be handled by TLP independently of TRS.
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Hooked a crowner for whether to turn this into an index, and if so, whether to rename it. As I mentioned both in previous posts and the crowner, TLP drafts can be handled by TLP independently of TRS.
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I've rewritten the laconic for Sleazy Photoshoot per the writeup in 31.
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Calling in favor of turning Fashion Model into an index and renaming it. What are our name options?
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If we're including fashion in the title: Modeling And Fashion Tropes, Modeling And Fashion Index, This Index Is On The Runway.
If we're excluding fashion from the title: Modeling Tropes, Modeling Index, This Index Does Modeling.
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Hooked.
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Are these enough votes for naming the index Modeling And Fashion Tropes?
I'd like to add these tropes to the index:
- Deliberately Painful Clothing: Wearing clothes that leave you in pain and in discomfort by choice.
- Fashion Dissonance: Clothing, hairstyles, etc. that used to be cool and trendy is now outdated and unfashionable.
- Fashion Hurts: Sacrificing comfort and ease for elegant but painful clothes.
- Fashions Never Change: Characters in stories set before the 20th century wear generic clothes for their time period instead of the existing nuanced fashions.
- Fashion-Victim Villain: A villain with a terrible fashion sense.
- Frozen Fashion Sense: Immortals keep wearing the same clothes they wore when they were still mortals even if they're out of style.
- Impossibly Tacky Clothes: Clothes that are tackier and lamer than imaginable.
- I Was Quite a Fashion Victim: A character's old-fashioned, embarrassing outfit/hairstyle is made fun of In-Universe.
- No New Fashions in the Future: Works set in the future have the characters wear non-futuristic outfits despite showing technological advances.
- Russian Fashion: Traditional clothing that identifies a Russian character (dunno what kinda page is this).
All of are on Costume Tropes. What is the specific distinction to put something on this new index?
(Would prefer to keep it about the fashion industry myself)
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...Fashion industry includes fashion too, it's not like the two can be separated. Many indexes have tropes that are on other indexes as well.
I'm not saying we put all clothing tropes on the new index, but the tropes that have to do with fashion.
Frozen Fashion Sense, No New Fashions in the Future, Fashions Never Change, and Russian Fashion are a stretch/don't count, but the others apply to the type of fashion models wear (like in Fashion Hurts, so many models have to wear uncomfortable clothes just for the sake of a fashion show/to get paid, etc.).
I didn't say that they were unrelated. But I was precisely questioning the addition of stuff like Russian Fashion, which is getting into search-generated territory when it's already on the broad, not-fashion-industry-specific Costume Tropes.
Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 10th 2023 at 11:57:41 AM
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Russian Fashion's existence as a page is questionable anyway, so I guess I wasn't on the right to suggest it, but a trope being on the broader custome index doesn't mean it can't be added to a more specific index that's directly related to it. I didn't add all tropes that had fashion in it just bc it had the word fashion.
Will we need a crowner for the tropes that we'll add to the index or is discussing them in the thread enough?
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
There are enough votes to rename the index to Modeling And Fashion Tropes, but it's only been two days since the crowner was hooked. We need to wait at least one more day before calling it per the Three-Day Rule.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 10th 2023 at 1:56:43 PM
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Calling in favor of Fashion and Modeling Tropes. I turned it into a redirect for now until the index is ready to be made.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 11th 2023 at 8:03:43 AM
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Second version of the index: Would also be on Occupation Tropes.
First established in the 19th century by Charles Frederick Worth who had his wife model the clothes he designed for the first time, modeling became a profession known for being glamorous and haute. Before humans came to model clothes mannequins were used instead.
Here are all the tropes regarding modeling, fashion, and their industry. Has nothing to do with role models or models that represent objects, plans, and places. Not to be confused with Only a Model, which is about miniature models of larger things.
- Beauty Contest: A competition where contestants are evaluated based on their appearance and colorful outfits.
- The Beautiful Elite: Characters in the fashion industry belong to a group of wealthy, glamorous, and high-class people.
- Brainless Beauty: Models who are extremely gorgeous but unintelligent and stupid.
- Casting Couch: Someone who wants to be a model sleeps with a producer to land a modeling job.
- Celebrity Endorsement: Fashion brands use celebrities' fame to promote and advertise their clothes and other products.
- Deliberately Painful Clothing: Models wear clothes that leave them in pain and in discomfort by choice for money, aesthetic, etc.
- The Diva: A powerful, dark, attractive, and assertive model that receives respect and attention everywhere and doesn't need to ask for it.
- Fanservice Model: A fashion model that specializes in displaying skimpy or barely there clothes.
- Fashionable Asymmetry: The model's clothes are intentionally uneven and they still look great.
- Fashion Designer: A character whose job is designing clothes.
- Eccentric Fashion Designer: Fashion designers are portrayed as quirky, flamboyant, and odd and sometimes are trendsetters.
- Fashion Dissonance: Clothing, hairstyles, etc. that used to be cool and trendy is now outdated and unfashionable.
- Fashion Hurts: Sacrificing comfort and ease for elegant but painful clothes.
- The Fashionista: Fashion-fixated character who dresses nicely.
- Fashion Magazine: Magazines dedicated to and concerned with the topics of fashion.
- Fashion-Shop Fashion Show: A female character buys some clothes with her friend/boyfriend and does her own little fashion show trying on different outfits at the shop.
- Fashion Show: An event where groups of models wear the newest collections of clothes in front of audiences and cameras.
- Hood Ornament Hottie: A model who poses sexily on a vehicle to show off both the vehicle and the outfit.
- Hollywood Beauty Standards: In the fashion industry, all models have to be lighter than a feather, have the body of a doll, be conventionally attractive, and have Eurocentric features.
- Impossibly Cool Clothes: Models wear outfits that are too good to be real.
- Impossibly Tacky Clothes: Models wear clothes that are tackier and lamer than imaginable for the aesthetic!
- It's All About Me: Some models are self-centered and only care about themselves and their needs.
- Model Couple: These models are paired up because they look good together and complement each other.
- Modeling Poses: Specific stances, moves, and walks models do to make clothing look appealing and attractive.
- Model Scam: A character is tricked or scammed with the false promise of doing a model shoot.
- Proud Beauty: Many models are proud of their beauty and the fact that others find them attractive.
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Removing the Rival: Some models see other models as their rivals in the spotlight so they sabotage them during fashion shows (by tripping them, ruining their outfits, etc.). - Rule of Glamorous: Because modeling and fashion are all about elegance, beauty, and glamor.
- The Prima Donna: An overbearing and demanding model who thinks everything is about her.
- The Show Must Go On: When mishaps happen during fashion shows and models still continue their job professionally as if nothing went wrong.
- Sleazy Photoshoot: A photoshoot that's done by the photographer unethically and inappropriately it makes the model uncomfortable.
- Stage Mom: Characters who push their child (both usually female) into the modeling industry.
- Undercover Model: A female cop/spy is forced to do modeling or other physical-appearance-reliant jobs.
I added Brainless Beauty, It's All About Me, and Proud Beauty bc these are common stereotypes abt models since we don't have a "vain, shallow, self-absorbed model" trope yet. Any additions, removals, or other edits? Is it too long?
Edited by selkies on Apr 11th 2023 at 2:34:38 PM
Removing the Rival is too far of a stretch but other than that it’s probably fine.
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Consensus was to turn Fashion Model into the index drafted in this post and rename it. What should its new name be?
@selkies: I wasn't saying there would be any fictional models, because I was talking about the inclusion of tropes about models in fiction in the same index as creator pages for real-life models. I also wasn't suggesting we include fictional models, if that was what you thought I was getting at.
...Actually is it even notable, for our purposes, whether or not a creator is a model or has done modeling work? I don't know that it has any relevance to any tropable work they've done. Maybe we could just have a Modeling Tropes index?