With the release of the first episodes of Season 4, certain WMG have been moved to the Jossed and Confirmed tabs, which likewise do not have spoilers marked under them. Major spoilers are ahead. You have been warned.
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- Miraculous Ladybug Confirmed And Jossed Theories
- Miraculous Ladybug Marinette And Adrien
- Miraculous Ladybug The Miraculous And Their Holders
- Miraculous Ladybug The Villains
Miscellaneous Theories
Now that Hawk Moth has gained all the Miraculous of the temporary heroes, he might decide to entrust one of his field agents with one of them - namely, the Fox Miraculous, which Lila has long coveted. He might even ask her to create some chaos with the Fox Miraculous itself, instead of merely Akumatizing her. If Alya spots the Fox Miraculous around her neck at school (completely ignoring how Alya ignored Lila's fake Fox pendent that "fell" out of Marinette's locker), then she might realize finally that Lila's a liar and that the only way she would have the Fox Miraculous (Alya's former Miraculous) is if she's in league with Hawk Moth. Bonus points if Trixx manages to somehow signal Alya.
Nineteen of the 27 episode titles are the same as the concepts represented by the Miraculous in the Chinese Miracle Box. This is a departure from previous seasons, in which they were nearly all named for the Akuma/Sentimonster featured; the thought is that most of them will center around that Kwami and also involve Hawk Moth using (or trying to use) an Akuma with a power related to the respective Miraculous, which will lead to Marinette recovering that Miraculous. (Not sure how "Destruction" will relate to the Akuma though, since Hawk Moth doesn't have that one.)
- 01: Evolution (Rabbit)
- 02: Multiplication (Mouse)
- 03: Destruction (Cat)
- 04: Jubilation (Pig)
- 05: Illusion (Fox)
- 06: Determination (Ox)
- 07: Passion (Goat)
- 08: Reunion ()
- 09: Exaltation (Tiger)
- 10: The Kwami's Choice, Part 1: Transmission (Butterfly)
- 11: The Kwami's Choice, Part 2: Deflagration (translated as "Blast") ()
- 12: Perfection (Dragon)
- 13: Migration (Horse - "Teleportation" is the English name of its power)
- 14: Derision (Monkey)
- 15: Intuition (Snake)
- 16: Protection (Turtle)
- 17: Adoration (Dog)
- 18: Emotion (Peacock)
- 19: Pretention (Rooster)
- 20: Revelation ()
- 21: Confrontation ()
- 22: Collusion ()
- 23: Revolution ()
- 24: Representation ()
- 25: The Last Day, Part 1: Conformation ()
- 26: The Last Day, Part 2: Re-creation (Ladybug)
- 27: Action (Bee - "Subjection" is the English name of its power)
Could even mean last day of middle school, and season 6 and 7 will take place in high school. At least in the French dub. I'm not sure how the English dub would handle that if that's the case.
- They could retcon it for the English dub to have high school grades 10-12. Or the middle school and high school are all in one building just in different wings.
- And unlike in Ephemeral, The Reveal is for real this time.
The fact that the last episode is named after the Bee Miraculous, one which Chloé has coveted as Queen Bee seems significant to end the season. We already know that Hawk Moth is not above recruting people to do his dirty work (Lila). We also know there will be a Hawk Moth in the future, so there is a chance that he might fully recruit Chloé with the giving her of the Bee miraculous and keeping her as an enforcer. This would also fit the story arc she's had where she willingly seeks Hawk Moth's power.
Since he has so many Miraculouses, he will be tempted by their power. While he might know theoretically that using too many is dangeous, it doesn't seem to bother him; he eventually defaulted to using two, and in Ephemeral he even used three/four. He'll likely try to fuse a ton all at once, and then suffer the consequences; this could even lead to the heroes retreiving some Miraculouses. He will then decide to only use a small number at a time and/or pick subordinates (potentially making more Akumatised Miraculous holders).
With the power of time travel, the Rabbit Miraculous is very tempting; the episode titles suggest it might even be the first one Gabriel tries to use. However, as long as he eventually loses it, future Alix will still have it and will be able to travel back and stop him. Evenetually he'll either figure it isn't worth the effort, or make a mistake that allows the heores to to steal the Rabbit Miraculous back. This could also potentially lead to present Alix finally getting to transform.
She used to be a superheroine, but something went down related to it and she went missing. Gabriel is well aware of this, which is why he takes great measures to keep Adrien sheltered and has a notably surprised reaction when he recognizes his son's ring.
- WMG version 1: Assuming Gabriel is Hawk Moth, perhaps he used to be her partner (using Nooroo and the butterfly Miraculous), and is trying to get his hands on LB and CN's Miraculous in order to find/avenge her.
- WMG version 2: Assuming Gabriel isn't Hawk Moth, he's just a well-meaning but kind of terrible dad who has no idea how to reach out to his son and explain his mother's disappearance to him.
- Possibly confirmed. As of Volpina, the blue peacock miraculous has been shown stored in a secret safe in the Agreste mansion, located behind the portrait of Adrien's mother. Near the miraculous is a photo of her. This could imply that it belonged to her before she disappeared. Which version is more accurate is not yet clear, but Adrien has seen the miraculous (and possibly identified it using the book he took out of the safe), with Gabriel remaining unaware of this for now.
- Related to the above, Gabriel is Hawk Moth, but wasn't involved with the miraculous prior to Adrien's mother's disappearance. She was the "wrong choice" that Master Fu made, and after she died/abandoned her duties as a miraculous holder this drove Gabriel to learn about the miraculous and seek out the butterfly one. (Why the peacock one didn't work for him is unclear, but possibly it he left it alone out of respect for her.) If he was previously a miraculous holder, the exposition that Nooroo gave to him at the beginning of Ladybug and Cat Noir (Origins Part 1) seems ludicrous, even invoking As You Know.
- Possibly confirmed. Emilie's coma was caused by the Peacock Miraculous, likely because she was using it but not confirmed precisely.
This is how Hawk Moth knew about Adrien and Marinette's Miraculous, and their combined power, from the beginning. How would he know about their god-like power if he'd never seen either of them before?
This is also why Emilie 'disappeared'. She really died, but her cause of death being the same as Peacock's would arouse suspicion, so he had to pretend she disappeared. Its also possible she died as Peacock in a way that destroyed her body.
Finally, he created an Akuma that seems suspiciously similar to the theme of a known Miraculous. A fox-themed hero with a necklace. This indicates that he's likely taken inspiration from a possible former ally.
- This seems unlikely, after Origins specifies that the Moth Miraculous was lost long enough that it was thought to be "lost forever". It also shows that Gabriel knows about the vixen superheroine because he had the book.
- If the above "Nom de Mom" theory and the Uptown Girl theory are true, it's probably even for the same reason as LB and CN's interactions. Adrien's future mom was the girl with everything except someone who cared for her for her and her partner provided that in the same way LB does for CN while Gabriel kept getting tongue-tied around Miss Perfect.
- Probably not Camille, since outside France, nobody would recognise it as a unisex name, ruining the theme as much as if she were named Shirley, Kelly, or Ariel, which are best known as female names despite being unisex. Jean/Jeanne would also work as her name, but there are already one, maybe two Jeans.
- Jossed - her name is Emilie.
Because how much of a kick in the nuts would it be if the supposedly Too Good for This Sinful Earth Emilie was just as evil as Hawk Moth? similar to the Code Geass twist with Marianne...
- That's actually plausible. See, literally all we know about her is that she was the previous wielder of the Peacock Miraculous. She did something with it that put her in a coma, something clearly harder on her than even Nathalie's repeated use of it to send kaiju rampaging through town. See the "Adrien is a sentimonster" theory for one idea... but if he isn't, well, there's no guarantee that whatever she did with it was particularly nice. Especially since we've met two members of her family and they're both amoral schemers. (Not that you have to be just like your family, as proven by Adrien. However, it could be Foreshadowing. We hear about her only through those who loved her most, so on the surface she's perfect... meanwhile, she was the last user of the Peacock, and every time we've seen it used, it was being misused. And we meet other members of her family... and they're no angels. And it's been pointed out that Adrien's isolation doesn't seem to be a thing that started with her disappearance. All this could be intended as clues that the character we actually know nothing about beyond "Adrien and Gabriel miss her" isn't actually the saint she's assumed to be, and when she wakes up, that's when the merde hits the ventilateur.)
- Further evidence: in "Gorizilla", the movie she appeared in was produced by A. Bourgeois, most likely one of Chloé's parents (although whether it's André or Audrey is uncertain).
- Though it could be a family member of André's
- Sloe Crusher confirmed that Chloé's father, André, produced the movie.
- Because it's the only safe in the house? Because it's the safe that Gabriel spends the most time around? Because that's the safest out of all the safes? Because it's an all-powerful Miraculous? Because he doesn't know what else to do with it? Because he's saving it for her? Because the Miraculous reminds him of his wife? Because it's not the real Miraculous, just something important to him or his wife? Because it's not a Miraculous, it was just a famous piece from his collection that helped him make a name for himself so he wants to keep it safe? Because it was a gift from his wife? There's plenty of reasons.
- That's what's in the vault under the Agreste manor. Emilie has been corrupted or possessed by some kind of evil power, and Gabriel wants the Miraculouses because they are the only things that can purify her again. He is keeping her (or rather, the thing that has her body) imprisoned until he can get them.
- One use of that shit completely drained Nathalie. Overuse could easily cause longer-lasting damage to her.
- Confirmed in the 'Gabriel' webisode, as well as in "Feast" and "Ladybug"..
- Hawk Moth will succeed in taking the Ladybug and Cat Miraculous, leaving Marinette and Adrien to have to fall back on the Dragon and Snake. Emilie will awaken and realise what has happened, what Gabriel has done. She'll march into the atelier and take the Peacock Miraculous, or possibly have to punch out Nathalie and take it from her. She'll transform and charge into the fight, Hawk Moth will see her and realise he's succeeded but Emilie knows what the cost was. Emilie will fight Hawk Moth, and win, and take the Miraculous from him. She'll return them to Aspik and Marinette but she'll know that reversing the Ultimate Power will send her back into her coma. She'll have a moment with Adrien before the two wear their Miraculous once more, and she'll go back to sleep.
- Gabriel will succeed in reviving Emilie—but something will go wrong. She'll look like her old self, but act completely differently and it'll quickly become apparent that she's far more dangerous than Hawk Moth in this state. She'll easily dispatch her husband and then try to destroy the heroes who will have to find a way to take her down.
- Sorry to be a party pooper but I have to object. When Hawk Moth is first seen talking to Nooroo in the first Origins Episode he claims that he "found" Nooroo. Master Fu even claims that he thought that the Butterfly Miraculous "was lost forever". These claims indicate that if Gabriel Agreste is Hawk Moth that he wasn't given the Miraculous by Master Fu, he found it on his own. In addition, if Wayzz and Master Fu know the Gabriel Agreste is Hawk Moth then why are they keeping this vital information from the heroes? After all the two sent out the the Ladybug and Black Cat Miraculous to stop Hawk Moth. So if Master Fu and Wayzz intend to stop Hawk Moth it makes no sense for them to know who Hawk Moth is and drag out the plot by not telling the heroes this key information.
- Then Master Fu left the Miraculous where he expected someone else to find it. He eventually figured out his intended target didn't get it but didn't find out who got it.
- It's plausible that many years ago, possibly in the early days of his being the Great Keeper, Master Fu gave the Moth/Butterfly Miraculous to someone who was, for a number of reasons, ill-suited. Either they sold off the valuable jewellery, or they ran off with it, believing it was evil and that its powers shouldn't be used, or they ran off with it and died. Either one would result in the Moth/Butterfly Brooch appearing to be lost forever, so long as it was never put on until Hawk Moth got a hold of it. Which makes me think it was being hidden for a long time, and then he tracked it down. It's possible The Collector factors in somehow, maybe being who Hawk Moth obtained the Miraculous from. In fact, maybe he works for The Collector. As does Mayura. Maybe the Moth Brooch was given to The Collector or one of the past Collectors, and they elected to not use it, but collect it and eventually the other Miraculous. The Collector allows Hawk Moth to use the Miraculous so he can obtain the other Miraculouses. Mayura is likely sent in to "help" because he's failed more than 26 times.
- Nope on this last one; the Collector is an akuma villain.
- Or at least, nope to the bits about about the Collector; everything before that is perfectly fine. The part where the mistake was made early in his post as the Great Guardian, he gave the Moth Locket to someone who was ill-suited for it. That person either sold it off or ran off with it and refused to use its powers, or ran off with it and died, causing it to become lost as nobody put it on thereafter, causing it to be lost. That part is totally fine.
- Nope on this last one; the Collector is an akuma villain.
- I'm going to have to take you back a step here. This scenario seems like a rather fortunate mistake given the good turnout that you have presented, but Master Fu was very clear in the Origins Episode when he said that this mistake is one he wouldn't want repeated. If there is anything that could logically be said about this scenario it is very best-case and this kind of turnout is something worth hoping for if he got it wrong and is nothing to be ashamed of given the payoff.
- Jossed. The Collector is an akumatized Gabriel Agreste, not a past villain.
- As much as she likes him, she will eventually discover his former feelings for Ladybug. Or his feelings for Ladybug won't have truly died down.
- Or, alternatively, he will find out somehow that Marinette had feelings for him, and this will make him conflicted.
- Or, he won't find out that Marinette had feelings for him, but he will start to notice her instead. Perhaps while disguised as Cat Noir.
- Or his feelings for Kagami won't really deepen, and Kagami will realize this.
- Or he will hesitate too much, and Kagami will find his less assertive nature to be a turn-off. Especially if he fails to keep boundaries in place with either Chloé or Lila, or if he doesn't stand up to them when they mistreat others.
- Another reason it won't last: at this point, they're literally copying Star vs. the Forces of Evil. Star and Marco had their own love interests (Tom for Star, Jackie and later Kelly for Marco), but by the end of the series, Star/Marco (or Starco was 100% canon. The same thing's gonna happen with Adrien and Marinette.
- Confirmed. They did break up but for none of the reasons stated above. Kagami was disappointed in Adrien because he kept lying to her in order to protect his secret identity; and because she did not like his true self. In addition to this, Kagami admits later that this is Marinette who is the perfect match for Adrien despite the latter have yet to discover it.

Luka
- Jossed. They broke-up so early that they did not have the time to develop such a dynamic- or any.
- Similarly to Kagami and Ladybug how? What Les Yay are you talking about?
- Jossed. It went into the mask he was holding.
- Bright blue hair is not a normal color for humans, and that odd ability he has to read people's emotions hints at something supernatural in his makeup. And there's just something... off about the way he moves and talks.
- Luka's hair is pretty clearly dyed, like his sister's.
- The series seems to have "anime rules" for hair, as Marinette(and several other characters, like her mom or Mireille) has blue hair, Alix pink hair, Nathaniel bright red hair and even Miss Mendeliev has purple hair.
Chloé
- Judging by the events of Miraculer, and going by the fact that she still hasn't become a significantly better person, it's possible that she'll join Hawk Moth and Mayura and declare war on Ladybug.
- What's more, if the spoilers regarding someone else becoming the Bee Miraculous holder/Queen Bee are true, Chloé could become extremely embittered by, what she views as, a slight on Ladybug's part and join Hawk Moth.
- Or she might get confronted by someone who's an even bigger Alpha Bitch than she is, only in a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing way. This girl shows up at school and at first, Chloé thinks the world of her, even if she's got the odd habit of treating her "inferiors" well...until the new girl goes on a date with Adrien, that eventually spins into several dates. Furious that someone would steal her Adrien, Chloé does some digging and discovers that the new girl is blackmailing Adrien, stumbling upon them having an argument that makes what she's doing clear without giving away what her dirt is (as it would probably be him being Cat Noir). Chloé tries to get help but no one believes her since Chloé has been her normal self and the new girl has been treating everyone sweetly. Desperate, Chloé ends up going to Marinette who only believes her for Adrien's sake and makes that clear. Chloé ends up gaining respect for Marinette and even has the beginning of a Heel Realization about her constant fawning over Adrien since it's becoming quite clear that he's not interested in her romantically.
- Or, she gets a Miraculous (like the bee) and after the first few times she slowly realizes the Akumas are all people she annoyed/insulted earlier. It may take a bit, but she will soon realize almost everything with the akumas is her fault, or at least she contributes heavily and that will cause her HeelFace Turn. After all, fighting classmates personally and watching them detransform is different from cheering Ladybug on from afar.
- She kinda gets a short-lived variation at the end of "Zombizou". Sure she admits to Miss Bustier that it's her fault she was akumatized and forgot it was her birthday, but she refuses to admit it to the rest of the class. Marinette (who saw as Ladybug) realizes that Chloé does have the potential to be a good person, if she is set a positive example.
- Technically it's called bleaching if you mean she currently does something to her hair.
- Possibly this, or she gets an Important Haircut
- She might just be jealous of Marinette. After all, Marinette is very talented and her family is very close.
- Alternatively, Chloé will be overcome with hurt upon realizing the kind of woman her mother is and breaks down crying. If Marinette can be witness to this, it would turn her perception of Chloé right on its head.
- I like this idea, and the idea that her mom is a terrible person, but I prefer to think that Mme Bourgeois comes from old money herself and is a cold, haughty fashion model. I like to think that Chloé is the way she is because she's constantly trying to impress her mother, who has never felt Chloé is good enough. It matches with how Chloé is so desperate for attention and to be the best and most impressive person, and why Chloé never talks about her.
- It doesn't need to be so complex. Lila could just be wholly unaffected by Chloé.
- Knowing Chloé, she'll just announce it immediately, no HeelFace Turn needed.
- Confirmed. The first thing she does after getting the Bee Miraculous is to scream at the top of her lungs that she's Queen Bee.
- Jossed. She jumps at the call, with disastrous consequences.
- It will come before she gets her Miraculous. Maybe she will find out about Ladybug's or Cat Noir's secret identity, through considering that she is Adrien's childhood friend, it's likely going to be the latter. Then later, Hawk Moth will ask her to give her their Miraculous in exchange for something of hers - at best something like her wealth and at worst her freedom. After seeing her selfless sacrifice, Master Fu will give her a Miraculous and somehow, the Reset Button will be pushed as well and she will get back what she lost.
- It will come after she gets her Miraculous. At first, she will be an Anti-Hero who only fights evil for fame, but eventually, someone she cares about - Adrien, Sabrina, her father, etc. - will be kidnapped by Hawk Moth, who will ask her to give up her Miraculous in exchange for their lifes - maybe the other Miraculous holders will be in a similar position, which will result in an arc where Marinette, Adrien and Chloé will have to save Paris without any powers.
- Not in an Insane Equals Violent way, of course, but with a massive case of Believing Their Own Lies. That is why she does things like insist that she hadn't offended anyone recently in "Antibug" even though she'd just had a fight with Sabrina, or thinking that everyone loves her despite the fact that everyone else can see the whole class hates her, or insisting that she and Ladybug are best buds even though they barely know each other. She isn't an idiot, or even lying in the normal sense, she literally can't tell the difference between her fantasies and reality. Her father doesn't grasp just how bad the situation is, and is therefore enabling her delusions because he doesn't know what else to do.
- This also explains why Ladybug calling her out broke her so utterly in Antibug. She couldn't deny or explain her way around what she was hearing, so she was forced to confront the actual truth. And then by the end she'd managed to repress the realization, and was back to normal.
Pretty much describes Chloé to a tee. She loves Ladybug and is fond of calling herself the superhero's "most devoted fan" but doesn't have any understanding of the actual heroic traits that make Ladybug the hero. In fact she utterly despises Ladybug's civilian persona Marinette specifically because Marinette possesses those same heroic qualities. It's obvious she only likes Ladybug because Ladybug is popular.
André
Jossed in Malediktator since her leaving the city is enough to get him akumitzed
Audrey
- I heard Word of God jossed this a while ago.
- That would make Chloé's constant hitting on Adrien highly inappropriate for a kid's show.
- Also, this would require her to have been married to André Bourgeois and Gabriel Agreste at the same time, since Chloé and Adrien are the same age.
- No, by "Word of God jossed this a while ago", they meant "Adrien and Chloé are not related".
- That would make Chloé's constant hitting on Adrien highly inappropriate for a kid's show.
- We learn in "Gorizilla" that Adrien's mother was in a film produced by an A. Bourgeois. This could mean whatever caused Chloé's mother leaving might have involved Adrien's mother as well.
- At the end of "Feast", we see Audrey, Tomoe Tsurugi, and Gabriel and Nathalie reacting to the news of the temple's reappearance. While Gabriel and Nathalie have an obvious reason to be interested, Audrey doesn't seem to be the kind of person who'd be interested in a Tibetan temple reappearing... unless she was interested in what's in the temple.
- Chloé's cousin; maybe Arlette is her mother.
- Chloé's older sister. She maybe she lived in New York with their mother, or being older and more independent, she has been traveling.
- Going off the "Adrien is a sentimonster Replacement Goldfish for the late real Adrien" theory a bit further down, Gabriel might wish to prevent his son's death. Assuming any of it is true, if the real Adrien never died, then Emilie would never have needed to create the sentimonster of him, and thus would not have gone into her coma. Therefore, Gabriel would never have become Hawk Moth or akumatized innocent people (or Nathalie and Lila), because his reason to do so would not have come to pass.
- Makes sense from another angle, too - promo material for Season 2 has indicated that Lila will try to manipulate Adrien to keep him all to herself. Nino took it personally when Gabriel denied Adrien a party, so someone deliberately harming his bestie? Yeah, Lila's definitely going to end up on Nino's shitlist.
- Jossed. In "Onii-Chan", Nino talks to Lila about her mother is attending a fancy gala and she wants to attend but she needs to be caught up on her schoolwork. Nino kindly offers her that he'll tell Adrien a good word about her to help her catch up.
- However, in "Miraculer", Lila tells Gabriel Agreste that "Adrien could do much better than Nino". Despite Nino's kindness to her, this just shows how ungrateful of a person Lila is.
- We've seen them transform several times in the Metro, and it's pretty much impossible to have a spot in the Parisian Metro that isn't camera'd. (Over 9500 cameras.)
- Probably not, as the setting appears to be an alternate universe utopian Paris where security cameras either aren't necessary or are easily avoidable.
- It's confirmed in Season 3 that the Kwamis can't be detected by any electronic means, and the New York special confirms that the Miraculous Holders have a 'quantum field' that messes with human minds' perception, so their transformations are pretty much undetectable unless someone is right there to watch it in person.
- They do not need to record the kwami: even if the cameras do not directly record them transforming That is to say , the guards will do 2+2 and assume their secret identity.
- I was more thinking that they'd put a situation in the show that, although it's not like the Paris attacks, would seem like a serious situation for Ladybug and Cat Noir. Most likely, I think there should be an episode about loss or (the most likely situation), there can be an episode with a new, strong villain who is a serious threat to Paris. Eventually, he defeats Ladybug and Cat Noir, causing them to loose their powers, which reveals Adrien and Marinette's superhero identities to each other, and Marinette and Adrien have to work together to get their powers back.
- The Darkblade episode had a few noteworthy coincidences with the tragedy. A group dressed in black, motivated by rage at a French politician and by a belief in how things should be ruled, storm an event featuring an American rock musician. This episode first aired in South Korea a half week after the attacks. The parallels were so noticeable so soon after, that it could only be a big coincidence or an intentional episode selection meant as a tribute.
- Alya seems like the most likely choice, considering how much she and Ladybug are interacting via Alya's blog. Considering that Alya will also be getting a Miraculous in Season 2, they might even end up being mutual Secret Keepers.
- Or, combining the two ideas, Félix will be the one to get Akumatized.
- Partially jossed. It was explored but during a Christmas Episode where Adrien runs away and thinks his father won't care. It has nothing to do with a missed show or an akuma attack.
- Well, Alya and Nino still seem to be together, and the lucky bracelet returned in "La Befana".
- The latter point is incorrect- he made her a new bracelet. He keeps the other one and states he always carries it on him. He's even holding it in his hand at the end of the episode.
- Partially confirmed. While Robostus didn't succeed, he tried to get the Mirculouses for himself and even attacked Hawk Moth when the latter tried to gain control.
- Confirmed in "Captain Hardrock".
- He's Master Fu's mistake. He used his powers for evil until his time's Ladybug defeated him or Plagg revolted once he ran out of stinky cheese. Now he wants to find out the current Cat Noir's identity so he can reclaim the ring.
- Astruc has mentioned several times that he has since lost all interest in using Félix, calling him too cliché a character and generally favoring Adrien.
- He once stated point-blank that Félix will NEVER appear (emphasis his.) ...So of course, Félix did go onto appear (...which makes this theory Jossed, as there's no sign of him being a miraculous wielder, past or present.)
- Welp, he's not dead, but it did turn out hella depressing anyway. [sniffle]
- Alternatively they're already this, but being so near to each other since getting the powers has caused it to balance out and no one has noticed.
- That generation's Hawk Moth is a good guy like the one from Gabriel's book.
- If you watch when she tries to kiss him and he's tied to a lamppost, he actually tries to kiss her too, despite dodging her attempts. You can see him make a kissing motion with his lips. In the slow motion part where he almost uses Cataclysm on her, he looks shocked and afraid. Also, when she kisses him, he kisses back once he stops being stunned even though the spell isn't broken until the kiss breaks. You can also see that when she brings him down, his lips are already puckered for a kiss even though he'd just thrown a nervous Freeze-Frame Bonus Aside Glance to the camera when she grabbed him. So it's actually pretty likely he was fighting it, even though he can't remember anything he did.
- Ladybug already flirts with Cat Noir, no matter how much she denies it, and "Despair Bear" made it obvious that Adrien has a romantic interest in Marinette. And they still have no clue about each other's identities.
- If it happens, Alya will become Majestia instead of resuming her Lady Wifi form.
- Confirmed, sorta, and already happened in season 1. In "Princess Fragance" Marinette and Tikki get separated and Marinette can't trasnform, and in "Rogercop" Plagg gets a bracelet stuck in his head, and while Adrien could technically still transform, Plagg advices agaisnt this, as the bracelet would go inside the ring too and affect Cat Noir powers
- While that's a sweet idea, it'd be easy to guess, so unlikely something Gabriel would pick. It's not a secret he cares about his son. Relating to Adrien, it could be the day Adrien made it big as a model, or the day he learned his wife was with child. The latter is something that would be very hard to guess and that only he might know.
Because why not.
- Jossed, but it seems to be happening in Season 4.
- She isn't getting him pen-sets, she's just giving him a single pen, and Adrien says it's the same pen every year.
- Or at least, there will be a threat of it for an episode, but the status quo means this is unlikely to happen.
- One of the common fanfic themes is that Adrien thinks she's still mad at him over the misunderstanding in Origins.
- Very unlikely. You wouldn't get someone a Christmas present if you were mad at them.
- An alternative to that is that, instead of thinking she's still mad, Adrien thinks she's embarrassed and ashamed of making such an incorrect assumption about him and that her blushing tongue-tied antics are her trying to think of a way to apologize and/or make it up to him. Even though he's long since forgiven her and considers it water under the bridge, he doesn't want to further embarrass her by bringing up the whole issue again.
- Or the simple explanation: Adrien is a socially awkward and moderately famous model. His experience with girls crushing on him is along the lines of Chloé's antics — i.e. hanging off of him, loudly declaring affection, and being overly forward. He doesn't really have any previous frame of reference to actually get the awkward blushing and stammering kind of crush that Marinette has on him.
- It's also possible that he thinks his fame makes Marinette nervous, or else that his father's fame makes her nervous.
- Highly unlikely, if not outright Jossed by how she treats him pre-crush in the Origins two-parter.
- Mmm, not if he thinks (correctly) she didn't recognize him on sight and found out later.
- Highly unlikely, if not outright Jossed by how she treats him pre-crush in the Origins two-parter.
- Or it's possible he simply just thinks Marinette is easily very flustered by little things. He personally hasn't seen much else from her.
- It's also possible that he knows Marinette has a crush on him, but is pretending not to in the hopes that she will eventually get over it.
- Or he doesn't take the idea seriously, since he knows that Marienette hates liars, and the few times he has teased or asked directly if she liked him, she has denied it and he took her at her word.
- Or he's in denial about it. He knows that Marinette has a crush on him (c'mon, it's obvious to anyone with a single braincell), but because she shares so many qualities with Ladybug and his heart belongs to Ladybug he doesn't want to think about "betraying" Ladybug.
- And it'll turn out to be another cover-up like the Collector.
- Going on from the above, it's possible that the intervention of more purely evil supernatural powers will cause Hawk Moth to pull an Even Evil Has Standards and start using his Miraculous as it was intended to be used: to create heroes to fend off these new monsters.
- This could be considered semi-confirmed already given the planned crossover with upcoming series Pixiegirl and Ghostforce. Plus it makes sense given that the purification function of Ladybug's yo-yo cannot have possibly been designed solely with the Butterfly Miraculous being used for evil in mind.
- It doesn't have to be evil akumas the Ladybug purifies. The Ladybug could see that a proper akuma, like how one could argue the Collector is, isn't behaving very heroically or is being reckless or has too much power or something and take matters into their own hands and deny them powers even when the Moth's bearer won't cut their powers or can't. She isn't so much purifying it as she is removing its power, though purifying is still a good word.
- This seems likely, considering not just the past heroes we see like Herakles and Hippolyta, but the flashback Master Fu has, depicting a giant squid monster that needs dealt with by Miraculous intervention, even though the temple is in the mountains. Plus, if good magic exists, so must evil. For every positive, there is an equal negative. Plus, in the comics, don't the American superheroes like Majestia have superpowers?
- Kagami already has an English voice.
- This is already jossed if you watched "Origins Part 1":
Master Fu: I thought it (the Moth Miraculous) had been lost forever!
- It's notable that this coding and stuff can be seen from outside his glasses as well, when the camera is facing Max, so it is unlikely that it's just a style thing to show how Max sees the game, like what they do with Ladybug and her Lucky Charm vision.
- It's been mentioned that combining the Ring of the Black Cat and the Earrings of the Ladybug allows for the casting of a single Wish, but that the yin-yang nature of the two powers will cause the magic to enact an equivalent price. Surely Astruc wouldn't go to the trouble of setting up a Chekhov's Gun like that and neglect to use it.
- It's been confirmed that Nino will acquire the Turtle Bracelet at some point, which would require Master Fu to first lose it.
- It's also confirmed that Marinette will be distributing the new Miraculouses, suggesting that something will happen to Master Fu.
- Mayura is confirmed to be the villain of Season 3, which requires Hawk Moth to be got out of the way first.
- For all these reasons, I suspect that during the final episode of Season 2, Hawk Moth will do something exceptionally destructive, something that for some reason Ladybug cannot fix. Master Fu will decide that this incident proves that Hawk Moth must be defeated at whatever cost. He asks Marinette and Adrien to loan him their Miraculouses, and uses the Wish to take away Hawk Moth's Miraculous. But the price of the Wish will be that he shall lose his own connection to Wayzz and the Turtle Bracelet, and never be able to regain it.
- Except Marinette can distribute Miraculouses just fine and dandy with Master Fu being around, as seen in "Sapotis" and Mayura is supposed to work with Hawk Moth, not be a solo act.
- First, something goes spectacularly wrong. Perhaps using the Wish to call back Emilie opens the path for some other evil, perhaps he misphrases his wish, perhaps the price ends up being something more or other than what he expects, perhaps Emilie is actually a villain.
- Second, he succeeds at getting back his wife, but Adrien manages to put two and two together and now knows that his father is/was Hawk Moth.
- Third, he succeeds at getting back his wife, manages to concoct a cover story, and to all appearances has gotten away with it. Adrien is ecstatic to have his mother back, and we the audience groan at the further dramatic irony.
- Fourth, his own life turns out to be the price to have his wife back. She makes up a cover story, Cat Noir goes to the bakery to return Marinette's earrings and, when she asks how he got the Miraculouses back, he explains everything, including the fact that he's Adrien Agreste and his now late father was Hawk Moth. Marinette and Adrien will try to return the Miraculouses but Master Fu tells them to keep them because there'll be a new villain. Marinette and Adrien will finally become a couple after months getting over the emotional trauma.
- Fifth, the wish will create an Alternate Timeline where Emilie was never rendered in a coma by the Peacock Miraculous, but Gabriel was and she became the Hawk Moth of that timeline. It is likely that Alex was protected from the change with the Bunny Miraculous and thus she is able to change things back to the way they were.
- Confirmed by leaks of Marinette as "Lady Noir" and Adrien as "Mister Bug", although the details are still unknown.
- Confirmed in "Reflekdoll", though it's not for shits that they exchange Miraculous- Plagg finds Reflekta!Marinette before Reflekta!Adrien, and she just takes the Miraculous rather than try to find Tikki. Tikki then finds Adrien searching for his ring and gives him the Ladybug earrings. They did however think the other couldn't possibly do what they do though.
If we're under the assumption that coughing and barely standing aren't the only side effects of using a damaged Miraculous.
- The two-parter bit is confirmed by the synopsis leak. The season finale is a two-parter called "Battle of the Miraculous". So far, the confirmed opponents are Mr. and Mrs. Bourgeois in part 1 and Chloé in part 2.


- Confirmed. Gabriel repairs it at the end of "Miracle Queen".
- At least one character will compare it to Batman: The Animated Series episode "The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy".
After he finds out his son is Cat Noir, Gabriel will decide he can use this in his favor, and will do his best to make his son miserable, taking away his school privileges, putting in more modeling gigs and activities. And when Adrien is unhappy what does he do to relieve the stress? Turn into Cat Noir! And that will be when the akuma gets him, turning him into Cat Blanc, then Gabriel will bribe his son (I do see Hawk moth treating Adrien like he did puppetmaster, being kinder and complimentary then he is with most of hic victims)He offers to stop all the gigs and activities he hates and perhaps even tells the now-insane Cat that he can keep Ladybug's civilian form for himself (after all, what is a lion without his lioness?) Perhaps even convincing him that defeating her will be the only way she will ever fall for him, And he will get his beloved mother out of the deal as well.
- Confirmed in "Cat Blanc", but it didn't end well for him... or the rest of the world.
She is is helping Hawk Moth because she is in love both Gabriel and Emilie and believes that helping can ensure Emilie comes back.
Specifically when the episode Cat Blanc comes out the series will shift to a more serious tone then before. Then shit will REALLY hit the fan once Season 3's 2 parter episode comes out.
The future in "Timetagger" is rather detailed, including a Sequel Hook of regarding the identity of the next Hawk Moth (possibly Lila). Astruc has also posted art of hypothetical looks of adult Ladybug. However, this Time Skip won't happen until perhaps after Season 5 as that's when Ladybug & Cat Noir: Awakening takes place and the promotional image shows that Ladybug and Cat Noir are still at their current age.
Mostly making this guess because he voiced another antisocial student character named Felix in Fire Emblem: Three Houses, so he'd be a good fit.
- Jossed. He shares the same voice actor as Adrien due to being almost identical to him.

The story describes a crane who shapeshifted into a human, ripping off its own feathers (like the amoks, maybe?) to repay a debt to a human man she was in love with. The man, much like Gabriel, was horrified by her self-mutilation and told her to stop, but she didn't listen.
It fits symbolically (Nathalie isn't a peacock, not like Emilie, but she is something very close- maybe another sort of bird) and aesthetically (that sweep of red in her hair isn't dyed, it's her "crown"). Note also that a species of crane lives in Tibet, where Emilie and Gabriel found the Miraculouses. Perhaps they found a new ally too? It also explains why Gabriel is comfortable telling Nathalie about magic; if she's supernatural herself, she wouldn't be shocked by it.
Spoilers from Loveater/Heart Hunter below. You've been warned!
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This ties in with a theory posted above, but even if that theory is wrong, I think Marinette's opening narration about loss was a Bait-and-Switch - it seemed like it was about losing Adrien, but instead will be about losing Kagami. I'm thinking Heroic Sacrifice - I mean, she's the only one beside the main characters whose Miraculous isn't in Hawk Moth's hands...
Also, Word of God stated that Season 4 with show who will win and lose in the "Adrienette vs. Lukanette" ship. Notice whose name isn't part of either Portmanteau Couple Name?
- And Jossed. I misread the hints.
- In "Miracle Queen" it is established that when a Guardian relinquishes their position, they forfeit all memories relating to the Miraculous so as to keep the secret. It goes far enough for Master Fu to not even remember who Marinette is outside of costume. And now with Ladybug getting that position, she may well give it up come the end of the series, passing the mantle to someone else. And since this eliminates all Miraculous-related memories, she won't remember Cat Noir, her time as Ladybug, Tikki, etc. What this means for her character, of course, is up in the air.
- Considering episodes like Timetagger and Cat Blanc depict Ladybug and Cat Noir as co-leaders of a superhero team into adulthood, this isn't looking likely.
The Miraculous were entrusted to a retired hero named Fu, who took them to Paris for safekeeping. But when the Moth Miraculous fell into the hands of Gabriel, he began finding people to use the Miraculous to stop his evil machinations.
At the end of Season 2, Fu's memory wasn't wiped. He is merely faking amnesia to hide his involvement in the creation of the Miraculous, and to make sure Hawk Moth doesn't join forces with All for One, at which point they'd be unstoppable. Of course, they inevitably do, and Ladybug and Cat Noir go to Japan and make contact with Midoriya and co.
- Since Félix and Adrien appear to be the same age, and Emilie only "disappeared" a year ago, the affair would have to be years ago.
- However, it could also be psychological, as she showed no sign of her usual clumsiness when her memory got wiped in Oblivio.
- Some sort of anxiety or panic disorder would fit. Marinette is quite quick to jump to worst case scenarios and when surprised often jumps or flails her arms around as a result.
In "Kwamibuster", Marinette was able to wear all of the miraculouses and use multiple ones at the same time. Master Fu remarks that using more than one miraculous at a time puts a heavy strain on the wearer and can cause madness, Marinette being able to use so many being the mark of a strong will. However, the odds of her doing this a second time in "Miracle Queen" without beginning to feel the effects or that Adrien was left unscathed when he used the cat and snake miraculouses is highly unlikely. With Master Fu gone, it is likely that the increasing threat that Hawk Moth, Mayura and Lila pose will force the dynamic duo to pull riskier gambits and they just might be forced to use more miraculous.
The symptoms of degradation will add a sense of overarching doom to the story, with mood swings, hallucinations, insomnia, etc. Without Master Fu's help, Marinette will have just herself and Tikki to figure out how to reverse what is happening. In Adrien's case, it would probably be much worse as he has far less emotional support to fall back on and his Extreme Doormat tendencies will force him to weather through it without help.
- As far as we know only Ladybug, Cat Noir, Hawk Moth and Mayura remember anything. It is very likely that nothing will happen.
- It seems more likely that the inverse is true, the concept of the Butterfly Miraculous was the creation of temporary Miraculous.
This will likely result in the Order loosening their grip on their practices and rejoining with the wider world. Also, they will possibly remain involved in the "Parisian Miraculous Crisis of '15" (from a distance) while allowing the heroes to maintain their autonomy. They'll probably become active and help during particular crises, think the Catalyst incident.
- Almost entirely confirmed. Su-Han takes the box back and tries to coerce the heroes into giving up their Miraculous, but comes around after realizing the two have a pretty good handle on things and that he's not actually helping the situation. However, because he's completely by-the-book, he does not use a Miraculous himself (it's forbidden). He also does not go back to the temple, but decides to keep an eye on the situation in Paris while trying to catch up on the modern era.
This is likely to mean that Season 4 Chloé will become a more active and willful antagonist in a similar vein as Lila (perhaps even having the two of them becoming allies under Hawk Moth's direct orders). However, whereas Lila is a high-functioning sociopath, Chloé is a Spoiled Brat capable of being better but has simply fallen off the wagon. Whether or not Hawk Moth and Lila knows this or have complete faith in Chloé's worse nature is up for debate, but Chloé can be a serious wild-card that can either help cause the right kind of chaos that Hawk Moth can use or make her a Spanner in the Works that can make a carefully crafted Evil Plan fall apart due to her habit of doing before thinking.
With this it is likely that she will eventually develop a conscious, seeing the lengths that the other villains will go to and realize that she just doesn't have the stomach for it. With this in mind, she will try to find ways of regaining the hero's trust and will ultimately be the Deus ex Machina that finally takes down Hawk Moth. Perhaps Hawk Moth gives her the Bee Miraculous after stealing it back and then she paralyzes him when his back it turned, unmasking him for all to see. Or maybe she happens upon Ladybug as she transforms back into Marinette (without Marinette knowing of course) and decides to keep it to herself, an astonishing sign that her Character Development hasn't completely left on account of the fact that Chloé sucks at keeping secrets.
It may not even be the same person wearing it from episode to episode.
Emilie Agreste and Gabriel Agreste wanted to add Nathalie Sancoeur to the marriage and try to use the Peacock Miraculous and the Butterfly Miraculous but that made Emilie Agreste fall into a coma.
After all, the most immediate family the've been shown to have are Amelie and her son Félix, meaning that if he gets cuaght and arrested for his crimes as Hawk Moth, she'd probably be the next in line. Given their relationship, I doubt he's crazy about the idea of gaining custody over his son, and he'd probably want to take measures to prevent that from happening. And while Nathalie might seem like the more obvious choice, her complicity with Gabriel's plans mean there's a good chance she'd end up being dragged down with him, even before her health is taken into account. The fact that Adrien's Bodyguard is Locked Out of the Loop, however, means he'll have Plausible Deniability if they're ever found out. And, obviously, Gabriel trusts him with Adrien's safety, and for good reason.
While Adrien's schedule is packed full of extracurriculars, some of them stand out. The first bit of evidence is that he's learning Chinese. While it's established that Adrien speaks multiple languages, his learning Chinese is given a bit more emphasis, which stands out in a show where the main characters' superpowers come from ancient Chinese artifacts. Next up, Adrien is taking both fencing and karate - clearly, Gabriel and/or Emilie wanted to make sure Adrien could handle himself in a fight. Finally, there's his isolation from most other children around his age. Just Gabriel (and possibly Emilie) being controlling - or fearing that someone might accidentally defuse their little tyke-bomb? Put it all together, and it's likely that Gabriel and Emilie had bigger plans for Adrien than just being a pretty face on Gabriel's billboards - and given their interest in the Miraculouses, it's likely that wielding one was in their plans for his future (although they probably weren't counting on him wielding one in his current capacity).
This Tumblr post spells out the evidence of a connection between the Agreste, Bourgeois, Graham de Vanily, and Tsurugi families. While the former three are obvious, the Tsurugi connection is seemingly more tenuous (whatever Tomoe Tsurugi's contract with Gabriel Agreste is supposed to be) - but Gabriel and Tomoe are essentially raising their children in the same way. As the Fridge page points out, Kagami circa "Ikari Gozen" is very similar to Adrien pre-series - specifically, she's what Adrien would be if he hadn't become Cat Noir and undergone the attendant Character Development. Also, while Gabriel would (as seen in "Cat Blanc") take Adrien and Marinette being together very badly, there's no evidence that he has any such issues with Adrien and Kagami being together. Maybe allowing him to date an outsider would be too much of a risk, while being with someone raised in a similar manner would keep Adrien more tractible, allowing Gabriel to keep steering him toward whatever his endgame is.
Furthermore, at the end of "Feast", Audrey and Tomoe are seen watching the news of the temple's reappearance, as well as Gabriel and Nathalie. While the latter two's reasons for being interested are obvious, Tomoe and especially Audrey don't have obvious reasons to be interested - unless they're more interested in what's in the temple.
All four families mentioned above have one child each, all of whom are around the same age, and three of whom have clear fighting skills. It's possibe that Kagami and Félix are undergoing similar training to Adrien's, although they are unaware of it. Chloé stands out from the other three due to her laziness and apparent lack of self-defense skills.
The reason why Marinette was unaffected by carrying so many kwamis in Kwamibuster
According to master fu, it is dangerous to carry several kwamis, although ; Actually, Marinette could resist wearing so many not because she had something special, but because she was divided into several copies and each one carries a prodigy in addition to the mouse.I have noticed that every season in this show has had a recurring theme.
Season 1 was based on new beginnings, season 2 was the meaning of heroics and what it meant to be a hero, season 3 relied on changes happening. Could a new theme on season 4 be based on the past, going by the trailers shown?
- Consequences. So far every episode has been dealing with the fallout of prior actions or decisions.
- It's been announced that Mr. Pigeon will be the main villain of the fourth episode of season 4. The sixth episode shows that Ladybug will soon give out special charms to akuma victims to prevent them from getting akumatized again, and it makes sense that someone who gets akumatized as many times as he does would be the first to recieve one.
- Confirmed.
- Everyones memories will be erased except Adrien's.
- Didn't this happen before, in season 2, the episode where Paris was flooded,though he confronted Plagg, not Marinette. Though if, as speculated above, Consequences is the running theme, the possibility that Adrien feeling like he isn't trusted could be an interesting take on that.
- Keeping Adrien Locked Out of the Loop is eventually going to blow up in Marinettes face. Most likely in the season finale.
- Both of the most recent episodes (Sentibubbler and Rocketear) have featured this, it looks increasingly like they are heading to a blow up over all this.
- In "Kuro Neko", Adrien does indeed give up being Cat Noir, though thanks to Plagg it doesn't stick.
- Continuing from the above theory, after losing Sabrina, the last remaining constant in her life, Chloé will really start to spiral downward. She will attempt to cover for her lost friendships with Sabrina and Adrien by trying to find replacements, aka, she'll try and pay people to be substitutes for them. Of course, she'll still be a massive bully towards them, eventually to the point where they either get fed up with her attitude and quit or she gets put off by their failure to live up to the real Adrien and Sabrina's standards and fires them. After going through everyone and finding that no one else will hang out with her, Chloé will go through a massive Break the Haughty phase, sinking into a period of loneliness, isolation, and depression, especially as Sabrina thrives in her new friendships with Marinette and the rest of their class.
- Throughout all this, Zoé, the only person currently in Chloé's life who isn't mad at and/or doesn't despise her, will continue to try and reach out to her and be there for her like any good sister would, but Chloé will continue to stubbornly refuse any of it, mainly out of anger for her part "stealing everything" from her. Eventually, by chance, Chloé will run into Luka and, after getting to know him, will spill to him all of her emotional baggage: her feelings, insecurities, losses, burned bridges, etc. She'll even express to him that she has nothing and no one to care about or who cares about her and feels that she doesn't feel capable of love or deserve to be loved by anyone. However, Luka will point out that Zoé cares, even after how bad Chloé has treated her since her arrival, and will try to convince her to embrace that love. What happens from there is up to interpretation for now, but this could be the start of Chloé's true redemption.


Whats to the noted is that when children from a foreign country move and switch schools, they are held back a year due to a variety of factors such as a language barrier. This could be why Zoé is in Chloés class since shed be held back.