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    Introduction Arc 
Why would the Vanish Brothers assume wizards are poor combatants?
  • Wizard who mix it up in a tussle are the rule, not the exception; many of the most famous wizards in the series engage in melee combat, and the go to response of lower ranking wizards in the Phantom Guild and Eisenwald seems to be brute force. There's no reason for the stereotype of the frail wizard to exist in Fairy Tail.
    • The Vanish Brothers are a minority of people who think that way.

    Daybreak Arc 

    Lullaby Arc 
What happened to Elgior/Erigor?
  • After Natsu beat him, everyone arrives and gets distracted by Kageyama jacking the Lullaby. Then Erigor was gone without a trace, and is never mentioned again. Where did he go, and what's up with him now? I'd say the author forgot about him, but what with how much he doesn't forget the little things, I'm guessing Erigor is supposed to be an eventual Chekhov's Gunman...or something.
    • Actually, he IS mentioned again. At the start of the chapter/episode where Erza and Natsu battle, Lucy does an epilogue to that arc wherein she mentions that every member of the dark guild got arrested EXCEPT for Erigor, who was never captured. Lucy than worries about the possibility of him coming back for revenge.
    • If it makes you feel any better, in the anime he returns during the Nirvana arc under the banner of Oracion Seis, is defeated in a rematch with Natsu, and goes on to have his clothes stolen by Jellal.
      • And he is now a member of the Reborn Oracion Seis, revealed in Episode 140 (specifically in an anime only arc).
    Galuna Island Arc 

    Phantom Lord Arc 
When Natsu was attacking Phantom Lord's Base On Legs, why did his motion sickness only kick in when it turned out to be a Transforming Mecha? How is one any more of a vehicle than the other? More importantly, why did it affect him at all when both forms were pretty much completely stationary when he was in them?
  • Honestly, I think his motion sickness is as much mental as physical. Remember, it only affects him when it involves vehicles, not all forms of non-walking motion. He gets sick on a train, but once it stops or should he be carried by a friend (like Happy), he is instantly better, without any residual symptoms from his motion sickness.
    • I remember that one of the first volumes mentioned Lucy being called a "transportation device" at the end of a chain of traveling in things (It said "Train+Carriage+Lucy=Death Blow" or something of the like).
  • The base is stationary until it starts transforming, and then mostly stationary again to cast Abyss Break. His motion sickness kicks in when there's stuff moving everywhere to transform the mecha.

Fairy Law and the Phantom Lord Arc
  • At the end of said arc, we learn of the legendary spell "Fairy Law." Anyone who can use this is a Person of Mass Destruction to their enemies. Let's recap on the specifics: Fairy Law is a legendary class light magic spell that pulverizes everything the user believes to be an enemy within a very large range. And after Phantom Lord kicks the dog a few times, even going so far as to hurt some true companions—which Fairy Tail can view as crossing the Moral Event Horizon—almost all of Fairy Tail mobilizes to have a smackdown with their rival guild. Now, Makarov could have gone in and just nuked the entire guild with Fairy Law, thus preventing the hardships of the entire damn arc. But he doesn't. Why not?
    • But then we wouldn't have an arc! In all seriousness, even if Makarov did do that, I think there's a pretty high chance of the guild members giving Phantom Lord the beatdown anyway. I guess Makarov realized his guild needed to let off some steam?
      • Maybe you need to absolutely hate the enemy to use Fairy Law on them, and not just be very angry at them. Makarov did make the "I-won't-forgive-you-anymore-there's-no-turning-back-now" speech before using it, so I just assumed he didn't view them (or at least all of them, rather than the guild as a whole) as enemies before that. Judging by the way Laxus couldn't use it even though he felt that he's have no regrets about it, and the way Fairy Tail forgives villains all the time, he might've known that he won't be able to kill off a whole guild just like that.
      • There's also the fact that they were just a regular guild, not a dark one, and the mass murder of every member of a guild would be a little too ruthless Fairy Tail's taste (not to mention it would cause a ton of trouble for them and quite possibly lead to the Council forcefully disbanding them).
      • You should reread the very first line that Makarov says when he comes back to duke it out with Jose. "Too much blood has been spilled. The blood of children." Which is referring to the guild members on both side. His goal was to take down the guildmaster, and by the time he used Fairy Law, Jose was the only one still standing.
  • Other than the above mentioned mass murder out of the blue, it's not Makarov's way to attack somebody without fair warning. Remember his speech before he uses Fairy Law, counting to three and all.
  • Please also keep in mind that when they first retaliated against Phantom, Makarov didn't know if the entire guild was in on it. For all he knew it could have been Gajeel acting as a rogue agent (which was partially true anyway, as Jose only told him to trash the guild hall, not attack team Shadow Gear), or something that only Jose and the S Class mages were in on.
  • Being one of the Ten Wizard Saints probably isn't a title that's given to you purely because of power - which is why the likes of Gildarts and Laxus aren't Saints. It's most likely given to someone who performs a particularly good deed AND has a crapload of power. That would be why Erza was given the title posthumously - she died (in her vision) in order to stop the Tower of Heaven. It's just like Real Life sainthood. People like Jellal and Jose were probably performing good deeds in order to get well-known/famous (Jose especially, since he cared a lot about appearances and fame), while Makarov and Jura genuinely did good things.
  • It might have also been a way to terrify the shit out of them, and get them thinking "If he's capable of doing that, then maybe we shouldn't screw with these guys anymore." I mean, if you were in their position, would you take something like Fairy Law lightly?
  • In the manga, it's stated that Fairy Law drains the user's life force, so it can't be used nonchalantly—there has to be a damn good reason behind it.

    Loke Arc 
How did Loke prevent Karen from summoning more spirits?
In the flashback to Blue Pegasus, Loke comes to the human world under his own power. He explicitly points out that he's running on his own magic when Karen says that her magic won't suffice to keep him in the human world for more than ten days. If Loke is supporting himself in the human world by his own magic, and not Karen's, how did his presence keep her from summoning another spirit?
  • Maybe he's also using her magic to prevent her from summoning other spirits?
    • The Guildmaster of Blue Pegasus told Loke that Karen tried to summon another spirit when she got desperate. Apparently the strain was too great and she died, though whether it was using up all her magic or whether someone she was fighting killed her remains a mystery.
  • It's possible that it's not about using Karen's magic up, but that Karen wasn't adept enough to open more than one gate at the same time. Even if Loke is using his own magic to stay in the human world, Karen's magic is aware that his gate is still open regardless, and wouldn't open another gate until Loke's gate was closed. I personally saw this not as Loke trying to strain Karen's magic, but to prevent her from using her summoning abilities so that she couldn't get a job, and therefore limiting her income—Karen still needs to eat and afford rent, after all, and she can't afford to do any of that if she can't use her summoning magic to go on jobs.

    Tower of Heaven Arc 
The fight against Vidaldus Taka
  • Okay, when Lucy and Juvia fights against Vidaldus Taka of Trinity Raven in the Tower of Heaven, he uses his guitar magic to turn Juvia into a "Succubus". When Lucy asks him why he didn't turn her into one too, he replies that it's because he wants to see them have a catfight. Lucy, of course, is very reluctant about this. So I wonder, if he turned Lucy into a Succubus, wouldn't he enjoy the fight more? This way he could be the spectator of a much more passionate catfight. And in all circumstances, given that a Succubus is like a slave, he would have nobody opposing him. The fact that Lucy stayed normal was the only reason that they actually defeated him.
    • It's possible that he could only turn one person into a "Succubus" at a time, and said that to distract Lucy from that fact. It's also possible that he wouldn't find a catfight as amusing without one of them being genuinely reluctant and out of his control—breaking her without the magic. Some people are douches like that.

Jellal's magic power levels
  • Really, how powerful is Jellal? There are a lot of implications that indicate Jellal's very high power level, but where would he rank at this point compared to other wizards? He's a Wizard Saint at nineteen and everything he did to deserve the title was done by his thought projection miles and miles away from his actual body. The general assumption in fanon is that he's the weakest of the wizard saints—although Jura later claims that this is the case after the Tower of Heaven arc—but despite the political maneuvering around the title of Wizard Saint, there would have to be a base power level necessary. So, where would he rank? More powerful than Ezra and Natsu (not that Natsu didn't win legitimately against him, but he did need Etherion). At the time of the Tower of Heaven arc, I would think he'd be roughly as powerful as Laxus (judging from what happens in the anime). After the 7 year gap, I'd say he'd be on Gildarts level, maybe?

    Fighting Festival Arc 
Laxus being a Dragon Slayer.
  • It doesn't align with the information we have about the other Dragon Slayers, seeing as his age has been confirmed and we know he has family. Not only that, but according to the Law Barrier, the other Dragon Slayers are over 80 years old, whereas Laxus is in his 20s.
    • We've seen only seen two other Dragon Slayers. Too early to assume an orphan only policy. Also Natsu and Gajeel were confused as to why they couldn't go through the barrier. I'd assume they know how old they are, so there was probably an undisclosed condition.
      • This is eventually revealed to be because The Dragon Slayers' parents were inside them the entire time, which explains why they couldn't go through the Law Barrier because Igneel is confirmed to be over 400 years old, and it can be assumed that the other dragons are similar ages.
    • There is also the fact that Dragon Slayer is a type of magic that can be learned by anyone. Laxus's father might be the one to have taught it to him. Nothing says that you have to learn Dragon Slayer magic strictly from a dragon.
    • As it turns out, it's not ACTUAL Dragon Slayer magic, just a cheap replica; Laxus's father Ivan had a dragon lacrima implanted in him as a child and gave him immense power.

Laxus in the latest chapters.
  • Not the fact that he's a Dragon Slayer, but the way he's handled as a villain. Chapters of showing how he's willing to kill everyone, making friends fight friends and trapping them in a diabolical death magic...and then it turns out that no, he's not serious about it, and secretly doesn't want to hurt them. That's enough of a wall-banger on it's own, but then he's cool with trying to kill Natsu again. The hell?
    • It's the whole True Companions thing that's shoved down our throats at every available moment with the subtlety of a brick presented to us as a open and positive thing that transcends all boundaries and motivations.
    • Actually, while the bit about true companions is indeed correct, the issue in question has to do with that Fairy Law spell he uses. It's specifically designed as an attack that only works on those that you deem an enemy, and since deep down he still thought of them as his friends and family, it didn't take effect. This doesn't change the fact that he was still willing to kill and harm them, but note that you don't have to be fully willing to do something to actually go through with it (hence why people harbor regrets). Basically the spell not working was a wake-up call that Natsu was right all along, which he didn't take well.
  • I saw it as Laxus wanting desperately to be his own person, since he saw himself as always being in his grandfather's shadow, and simply allowing those negative feelings to build up way too far. He knew what he was doing was wrong, but the frustration that had built up over the years was just too great for him to resist.
    • Compounding that was the fact that Fairy Tail was almost destroyed by Phantom Lord and was now a target of mockery. Laxus does love the guild in his own twisted way. In his eyes, if the current members and Master cannot protect the image of Fairy Tail, then he would start from scratch and build a Fairy Tail that commands respect.

The Fairy Tournament
So the whole premise of the arc is they keep falling into Freid's traps and "only the strongest can pass" so they have to beat the hell out of each other. Except they don't. As we saw at the beginning of the arc, the age-restrictive barrier keeping old people in the guild stopped Natsu and Gajeel even though they had no idea that they were 80+, so by that same token, they should all just be able to walk up to the barrier and only one of them (whoever is physically/magically stronger) will get through. One doesn't actually have to figure out who's strongest for the barrier to do its thing.
  • Presumably, flowery language doesn't alter the actual purpose of the barrier. I would imagine Fried set the barriers up so that only the person who defeated everyone else could pass through, not just the one guy who was numerically stronger than the others.

    Oración Seis Arc 
Brain shooting Cobra
He shot Cobra in the shoulder after Cobra basically won his fight against Natsu, I mean, what the hell!? There's clinging to the ball, and there's simply going out of your way to not make sense.
  • I think it was supposed to be similar to how the girl Lucy defeated got up: it wasn't going to last long (given both the fall and the super hearing overload), and the fact that Brain didn't have one of the lines disappear after he shot him seems to support that.
    • From a villainous point of view, it makes sense. Cobra's severe injuries (both his physical injuries from the fall and any possible brain damage he got due to the overload) had screwed him over completely. Even if he did finish off Natsu he would have been useless to Brain afterwards. Brain probably killed Cobra both to punish him for his failure and to save Natsu. Brain was impressed by Natsu's power and wanted to use Nirvana to turn him into a suitable replacement for Cobra.
      • At least in the dub, he outright says that Cobra's failure to crush Natsu proves the 2nd generation Slayers are inferior to the 1st and therefore Cobra is no longer of use to him. So yes, it's likely he was going to use Nirvana to make Natsu evil and replace Cobra with him.
    • Defeating Cobra released one of the seals on his Zero personality. It's probably for that same reason that he impersonated Hoteyes and asked them to defeat Midnight.
      • No, "defeat Midnight" was a lie. He sent them straight into a trap he had planted before hand.
  • In the anime, this is what is established: he is impressed by Natsu and as a result of his battle with Cobra he thinks second generation Dragon Slayers are inferior to first generation (because second generation Dragon Slayers are "fake"), and that Cobra is trash and a failure—almost certainly because Cobra is on his last legs after fighting Natsu—but Brain outright says that he's also stopping Cobra from damaging Natsu any further, as he wants to use Nirvana to corrupt Natsu for a new Oracien Seis. In addition to getting rid of Cobra, he is punishing him for his failure, letting him know what he thinks about him (implying that either Brain had measures in place beforehand to mask his thoughts from Cobra, or Cobra never listened in on his thoughts in the first place).
    • Disregarding all the mistakes that Natsu made, even when Natsu unleashed his attack in the hopes of turning the tables, he is left immobilized and Cobra is completely fine, even standing with little problem. This is also neglecting the fact that it took THREE 1st generation Dragon Slayers to defeat a single 2nd generation Dragon Slayer in the Fighting Festival arc.

Racer...stops time? In a certain area? What?
  • OK, Racer's power being slowing down movement/perception of time that everyone perceives as Super Speed is just full of Fridge Logic. First of all, is he slowing down everything but himself, everyone but himself (body and mind), or just the minds of everyone else? Either way, there are some problems with how that could work.
    • It's probably more along the lines of the first one, as we have things like Natsu jumping off a cliff and such that would really make it all too obvious what his power really is, to say nothing of being able to catch and ride the motorcycles. I think it's more along the lines of "everything in a certain range" as things like the wind and leaves falling to the ground would probably give him away too quickly.
      • That was what I thought too, until I remembered that Racer failed to dodge Gray's attack because it started from out of his range—but still went into his range on the way there. So what, does it only affect what objects were in range when he started using it? Or does it take a while for objects that enter his range to slow done after the initial activation?
      • Yeah, like I said, there are all sorts of kinks to it. My assumption on that was that since the magic was formed and launched outside his range he couldn't just affect it instantly, as opposed to all Gray's other spells that formed basically at the same speed as normal to his own perception prior to that. WAY too many issues to adequately explain with the little information given.
      • It's simple: Grey was not slowed down when aiming his attack, so he struck true. A bow and arrow shoots its payload far faster than a human being can dodge, by a large enough margin that a thoroughly surprised Racer was apparently unable to dodge it. Had Grey been slowed down as well, aiming and executing any such attack would take long enough for Racer to notice and dodge.
    • What I don't get is how the hell he got Jellal so fast. He isn't moving any faster, and even if the range had anything to do with it, the world is still outside his range. Logically, he wouldn't be moving any faster with or without the power. Even when he rides his motorcycle, you see him zipping there and back like he ran the distance, and when he came back, he said it slowed him down carrying it there. The other members, while still as fast as an average human, have more physical strength than he does.
  • Racer's magic works to slow down the perception of time in a person's mind. He doesn't affect the actual time of anyone or anything, which is how Gray was able to beat him (he could see Racer more clearly and take careful aim in order to hit him).
    • If that were true, characters would do stupid things like walk into walls because they don't realize how fast the're moving or at the very least have an abnormally fast heart rate and breathing rhythm, because such things aren't controlled consciously.
      • It's a little more complicated than people "thinking" they're slower. I think it's more of a territory magic, where everyone in the area perceives time at a different rate than he does, causing their minds and bodies to slow down to the point they can barely move. Therefore, when Gray was outside of the range of his magic, saw Lyon moving extremely slowly and Racer standing completely still.

Issue 164
  • How is over a decade of Wendy's life being spent talking to an entire village, complete with numerous villagers, that didn't actually exist treated as anything other than a Moral Event Horizon? What kind of lifelong trauma would a realization like that leave? It is quite possibly the most heinous act of deception and psychological abuse I've ever heard of, and it's not even worthy of note to the rest of the cast.
    • While I see why someone could think that, there was a lot going on after the whole Oracion Seis/Nirvana fiasco. It hasn't even been a day since they fought for their lives, and everyone is still reeling from their fights with the Oracion Seis and the reveal that Jellal is alive (not to mention the fact that he was brainwashed for more than a decade). As for the Moral Event Horizon part, it's not really a Moral Event Horizon. While the impact should realistically be several degrees worse, the methodology behind it is similar to why parents go with the whole Tooth-Fairy-and-Santa-Clause-are-real route, which while it doesn't make things any less severe certainly shouldn't make it just as bad as the usual standards people hold for a Moral Event Horizon.
    • I saw it as, yes, traumatizing, but not in an abusive way. The guild master's ghost wanted to do whatever he could for Wendy, and he did what would make her happiest at the moment—in this case, created illusions of all of the comrades he'd lost so she wouldn't be lonely. In the end, he sees that she has the potential to join another guild and make real friends, so he decides to be honest and tell her the truth, showing that he did it all out of love for her, but now it's time for him to rest, for her to join a real guild and begin growing up, and for both of them to move on. That's probably how the other characters saw it, which is why they weren't freaking out about it.
    • I think you're overreacting a little. First, it wasn't over a decade, it was less than seven years. Second, as you might recall, when Wendy first arrived at Cait Shelter, she was five, and didn't even have Carla. Mystogan told her "there's a guild in that direction, go there" (I presume he meant Fairy Tail) and Wendy headed in that direction. Tragic as it might have been, if Wendy hadn't made it to Cait Shelter, or if the leader of Cait Shelter didn't make the illusions, it's very likely she would have died of starvation or exposure before finding someone who could help her. While it could potentially have unfortunate consequences down the line, if he hadn't done it, Wendy might not be alive.

Gemini and Lucy
  • If Gemini can command Lucy's spirits when Lucy summoned them, why can't Lucy command them when Gemini summons them? They only have the power to mimic her abilities, right? For that matter, why can Gemini summon her spirits at all—isn't she still holding the keys? We're well aware bat his point that she can only summon a spirit while holding its key (except for Loke, but Gemini doesn't summon Loke) and that there's only one of each. Does Gemini get a duplicate set of keys? If they handed one to Angel, would she have been able to summon Lucy's spirits herself? Would the key disappear when they turned back?
    • Dunno about the first part, but Gemini does get a duplicate set of keys. They were shown holding the key for Sagittarius just before they summoned him. And seeing as Sagittarius got dismissed as soon as Gemini left Lucy's form, I'd say that these duplicates disappear when they turn back.
    • Gemini can literally copy powers. They just copy Lucy’s ability to summon. It’s pretty unlikely that they can just hand this power over, since they are the ones that are specifically doing the copying.

The Double Standard surrounding Nirvana's alignment switch abilities.
  • It bugs me that the characters find Nirvana's ability to do a forced Face–Heel Turn to be morally reprehensible, but they're just fine with a forced Heel–Face Turn. Likewise, Sherry is depicted as being possessed by an evil spirit whereas Hoteye is depicted as just changing his mind. He even says that "People's hearts shouldn't be manipulated by magic" but that reeks of Fridge Logic since that's exactly what happened to him. Hoteye's Heel–Face Turn was still forced upon him. He had no choice in the matter.
    • I had that exact same concern with the whole Nirvana thing. I mean, being angry because your friends are in danger is not supposed to make one do a Face–Heel Turn, as is the case with Natsu. But Sherry was angry only because Lyon died, which is pretty much the same thing. So, I just took Hoteye's Heel–Face Turn as him actually being good deep inside all along. And I just chanted the MST3K Mantra.
    • Maybe it's because Natsu was trying to protect people and Sherry was aiming for revenge? Two fundamentally different reasons for their rage mean two different reactions to Nirvanna I would assume.
    • Remember that at that stage it only switches over people who are "wavering between good and evil." Hoteye was already capable of turning into that person eventually, Nirvana just gave him a push.
      • During his conversion (in the manga), Hoteye actually declares that his ORIGINAL GOAL was to find his brother. And for that he needed money, and he was eventually consumed by greed instead. So yes, it's very likely that Hoteye was always fundamentally good and simply had the "evil" parts of him undone.
    • The novel Night Watch has a similar concept known as "remoralisation." It has different effects depending on which side used it: if used by light mage, it forces the target to behave strictly according to their morals, literally (for example, you could "remoralise" a cannibal with all the power in the world, but he'd still be a cannibal, he just wouldn' with his food, so to speak); on the other hand, if used by a dark mage, it unshackles the target's hidden desires, emotions etc. It also said that, despite effects don't wear off or escalate by themselves, they can be amplified/inhibited by influence of other people. So in case of Hoteye and Jura's influence amplified the effect of Nirvana, forcing his HeelFaceTurn, and in case of Sherry it was mitigated, thanks to the fact that Lyon survived, and so her FaceHeelTurn effect was negated.
    • Dunno if this is gonna be controversial or unnecessarily philosophical, but, it's only a double standard if we assume Dualism here—that is, that good and evil, light/dark are equal, and just different opinions; that Truth is arbitrary/in the eye of the beholder. For all that Shounen universes have a "defeat = friendship" mentality, and see characters as human, always, they never support the idea that "Evil is just as legitimate as Good". Evil is objectively "Wrong", Good is objectively "Right", and better, and the Truth. People who are evil have stepped off the path. Thus, it's not really a double standard, since making people good is "Right". Not saying that's true in the real world, but it's at least consistent within the Shonen Fairy Tail universe.

    Edolas Arc 
Sugarboy's "bluff"
The thing about the key and the Dragon Cannon don't make sense. It's stated that if Edolas is planning on firing the Cannon at the lacrima, it would fuse them together with the magic of Extalia. But Sugarboy told Gray that it would turn the people back to normal. I suppose we have to assume that Sugarboy really was bluffing, but he seemed really serious about it, especially after the key was destroyed. But even if he WAS bluffing, then Gray went ahead and made a replica, so we can only assume he plans to use it. So...will it kill everyone in Magnolia Town, or save them?
  • The plan wasn't to aim it at the lacrima, the plan was to aim it at the floating rock the lacrima is on and then guide said rock to crash into Extalia.

Why didn't Natsu become sick when he rode that Giant Flyer thing during the Extalia Arc?
By that time it's been established that he's still prone to carsickness at all kinds of vehicles other than Happy. When he was heading out for the giant lacrima, he looked fine when he rode Coco's demon rabbit thing.
  • He doesn't get motion-sickness on Happy because Happy isn't a vehicle, so either riding living things doesn't cause it, OR it has something to do with the fact that Happy and the flying thing are both from Edolas.
  • It could be that both creatures are living and thus not actual vehicles. Has Natsu ever rode a horse (or this world's horse expy) in canon?
    • Natsu DID ride on Simon's back during the Tower of Heaven arc, and he got sick. He rode on Lucy's back, too, with the same results. I think we can just chalk it up to Series Continuity Error, because Mashima was probably too caught up in the situation to have Natsu comically falling ill again. Sometimes it just ruins the mood.
    • As one of the IJB Ms above said, Natsu's motion sickness is probably mental as well as physical. Natsu only gets sick on things he considers to be a vehicle. He doesn't consider Happy to be a vehicle because he thinks of Happy as a friend. That's probably why he gets sick on some things and not others.
  • WordOfGod says that every Dragon Slayer starts suffering motion sickness at a certain age/power level, and that learning Dragon Slayer magic changes the mage's body. It's possible that one of such changes is modification of cerebellum for better coordination in a fight against a dragon—who can Do a Barrel Roll, for example. So every Dragon Slayer is very good at coordination and motion prediction, as Natsu and Gajeel show during their fight with Sting and Rogue, but motion sickness would be the drawback of such a mutation Also it may be connected with actual flight, as Natsu has no problem with flying on anyone (such as Happy or the Giant Flyer from Edolas), which actually makes sense: a Dragon Slayer can hardly slay a dragon if they get motion sickness every time they ride one.

Lisanna being alive
  • Firstly, she got sucked into Edolas via the Anima portals that the King was using to steal magic from Earthland, so why was she not turned into lacrima like everyone else who wasn't guided there by Mystogan? Why was she not picked up by the palace when the Anima forcefully brought her there? After all, the Anima was caused by the palace, not by Mystogan.
    • These were just a bunch of little Anima, so it's possible that the Anima used back then were just prototypes, which would explain the discrepancies.
      • While that could be the case, we know that Mystogan was already in Earthland at that point in time because he helped Wendy after she lost her dragon, and since Natsu was already part of the guild when Lisanna "died", the idea that it is still super underdeveloped when a child saw the need to travel to a different world to stop it seems doubtful but not beyond all realm of reason I guess.
      • He tried to prevent Anima. Simple as that. Some people won't let the problems manifest first. In fact, there could have been successful uses of Anima, but the effects might have been too inconsistent until recently.
    • Additionally, there's nothing that says Anima is the device that converts magic to lacrima. Anima is the dimensional portal that sucks magic across the hyperspacial boundary. It would make sense that a secondary device would be necessary to convert that magic to lacrima—otherwise simply reversing the direction of Anima like Mystogan does would result in everything on the other side in Earthland being converted to lacrima. It's important to remember that the point of Anima was to suck magic into the world of Edolas, and we know that from there it could be converted into lacrima at will and/or monopolised. With a giant Anima, converting directly to lacrima makes sense, but otherwise when small Anima are opening up all over Earthland to take magic to Edolas (as well as opening up in Edolas in different places), it would be inefficient to convert everything to lacrima and then have to hunt and find it.
  • Secondly Lisanna's death is such a huge cop out. It mocks everything that Elfman and Mirajane went through after her death. Also did they not find it at all suspicious that her body disappeared? Is this common in Earthland?
    • Uh, this is a world of magic. Anything can happen. Anything can kill you in all sorts of ways. And I don't know about you, but I certainly don't feel cheated for mourning someone who's not dead—in fact, I'd be more than happy to discover they're alive. Even in a Watsonian sense, just because your reason for Character Development was ultimately invalidated doesn't mean it was pointless.
      • Yeah a wizard did it. Which means someone did it, not just a random happenstance. To the best of my knowledge there has been no wild magic in Earthland, just humans and animals that can use magic. So when she disappeared that meant that someone or something took her. That's not the time to completely write her off as dead, she has been kidnapped. You don't ignore a kidnapped child you try and find them, even if all you may be looking for is a corpse. Hell, Natsu has been looking for his disappeared dragon for years, how would looking for your disappeared sister be any different?
      • Note: "to the best of my knowledge there has been no wild magic in Earthland"—incorrect. The world is built on free flowing magic where even the consequences of magic wielded by individuals can have unforeseen consequences. Remember Nirvana? That was magic trying to balance out the unnatural effect forced upon it by humans. So no, direct manipulation by a consciousness (living or otherwise) is not necessary.
      • We don't know what Mirajane and Elfman did after they saw their sister disappear. All they knew was that she was really injured and then she went poof. For all we know, they did try to find Lisanna, but they gave up in the end. Letting go prematurely, so to speak.
      • This is really the only thing that bugs me about Lisanna's return, but I DO have a mildly plausible explanation. In the manga, we never actually see her death and what happens to her. All we know is that Elfman went berserk, Lisanna tried to stop him, and she failed, "dying" in the process. Now, considering that seeing you little sister die is incredibly traumatic—especially if, like Elfman, it's basically your fault—it's not implausible that both Mirajane and Elfman blacked out at some point after she was (to their knowledge) knocked unconscious/killed. If their memories of the exact moments of her "death" are blurred and incomplete, and they simply woke up to find her gone...well, one horrifically plausible conclusion is that Elfman literally ripped her to tiny, tiny pieces, so there was no corpse left. Maybe they didn't see her vanish at all.
      • For the record, Lisanna did technically die. Edolas!Lisanna, specifically. They were switched for some unexplained reason, and her being dead is why Lisanna hesitated to reveal she's not Edolas!Lisanna. Therefore, it's likely that Mira and Elfman ended up with Edolas!Lisanna's body, which is what's buried in the cemetery.
  • Thirdly, the circumstances behind Lisanna's time in Edolas implies that Edolas!Elfman and Edolas!Mirajane just let someone they knew was an imposter pretend to be their dead little sister for several years. How could you live with that lie tainting all of your interactions with her? Letting her take your sister's place and never confronting her in the slightest? It's just unsettling, to say the least.
    • For you it might be unsettling, but personally I think honesty is overrated in this particular situation. Lisanna had no idea how to get home, so she adapted to her new life as well as she could. Edolas!Mirajane and Edolas!Elfman probably knew this, and even if they didn't, Lisanna wasn't saying anything about it, so they might have believed that their suspicions were wrong or decided to be selfish.
      • I am not blaming Lisanna, besides from pretending to be someone's dead sister, she did nothing wrong in adapting to her new life. I guess the best way to describe how I feel about what Edolas!Mirajane and Edolas!Elfman did would be saying they decided to live in a Lotus-Eater Machine instead of the real world, and that always deeply disturbs me when that choice comes up and it's even considered.
      • Yeah, I can see why people would be disturbed by something like that. Still, their actions were plausible, because there are people that will do something like that. It's not ridiculous.
      • Nothing Lisanna did was for selfish reasons. Even impersonating Edolas!Lisanna was, in a sense, an act of kindness, because she didn't know that Edolas!Elfman and Edolas!Mirajane knew her real identity, and thought she was saving them the pain of losing their sister by being a substitute, to the extent that even when she saw Earthland!Natsu and realised there may be a way to return home she still wanted to stay with her Edolas siblings. She certainly treated them like her real brother and sister, and they treated her like theirs.

Anybody know why Mystogan came to Earthland in the first place? It doesn't seem like joining Fairy Tail serves a real purpose.
  • His original purpose was to seal up the Anima before Edolas could steal magic power with it. Apparently the palace did not let a few failures deter them, or the just kept making more until one man couldn't possibly seal them all up. As for why he joined Fairy Tail? Maybe being in a guild made moving around easier, or he just liked the company? Humans sometimes do things just because they want to even if it doesn't bring them closer to their overall objective.
    • He didn't actually interact with anyone other than the master, so I doubt that.
  • I can actually think of tons of reasons. First off is money to pay for general expenses (food, clothes, traveling expenses etc.), unless you really wanna say that Mystogan stole food and clothes as he grew and walked to each anima spot. Second would be information, since Guilds are well connected around the country (and sometimes around the continent). As for why he joined Fairy Tail specifically, the abolishment of guilds likely started before he left to seal the anima in Earthland—maybe Edolas's most stubborn rebel group made Earthland's Fairy Tail stand out to him.

Lisanna being brought to Edolas by Anima
Okay, it's not that this bugs me in itself. She was sent flying and was sucked into a magic portal. Nothing wrong with that. My problem is that Anima was supposed to steal magic power from an area. Ignoring the question of why Mirajane wasn't brought with her, why exactly was she not turned into a lacrima like was supposed to happen?
  • The best guess we have right now is that this was an early version of Anima that didn't have the qualities we saw in the Edolas arc. Also, turning them into a lacrima seemed to be specialised for the ETD plan and not have any use outside of that.

Lisanna on Edolas
Why did she say she had to hide her magic powers from others? How could she still use magic (Earthland style) in the first place, since she hadn't eaten any X-balls?

Gildarts hype
Why is everyone so hyped for Gildarts' return? I get that to some members (namely Natsu) he's a father figure, but everyone in the guild is so hyped for his return for seemingly no reason. He seems no friendlier or charismatic than, say, Mirajane and while I get that he's the strongest in the guild, doesn't that also mean he has the potential to overshadow its members while he's around?
  • Everyone in Fairy Tail knows each other, right? And Gildarts has been away for quite a long time. So people are probably just glad to have him back. Besides, Fairy Tail members are a rowdy bunch—they'll use any excuse to celebrate.

    Tenrou Island Arc 
What was Meredy thinking?
Using magic to link feelings of you and your enemy is already a double-edged sword as it is, but using it on Fairy Tail members, who are known for relying heavily on their feelings, is downright idiotic. It is not like it is a secret that Fairy Tail uses happiness bombing and are unorthodox, Hades was Macarov's predecessor after all.
  • I think she forgot about that.
    Meredy: If I die, he dies too. So, you can't stop me. Perfect plan!
    Juvia: Hey, ever heard of happiness bomb?
  • It seems as though she wasn't expecting the link to transfer emotions as well. That is, no thought transfer, and simply physical senses. Another possibility is that she simply didn't expect Juvia to have that kind of emotion, after calling it a "dead end of despair".
  • How old is Meredy at this point? From the way she looks, probably not older than 14. Young teens aren't exactly good at thinking things through.

What were Hades' followers thinking?!
  • Tying into the "90% of people don't use magic" above, the whole idea of eliminating everyone who can't use magic is patently ludicrous. Even in an extremely advanced society with equally-advanced agricultural methods, it takes at least 30% of the workforce actively producing food to support a society anywhere close to realistically. And that's just food, not even counting all of the various other jobs besides magehood which make up 98% of everything required to run a society. In a more archaic society (Magitek notwithstanding, they still have a monarchy and a noble class if "Duke Everlue" is any indication), it was closer to 70% of the population just making food, much of it subsistence farming. So if they succeeded in making a 'world for mages', they would all starve to death relatively quickly, as from what I can tell most mages don't have any major training outside of their magic and/or fighting.
    • That isn't even taking into consideration that they'd have to conquer the entire world to complete their objective, not just Fiore, which is implied to be one small country out of many, though a powerful country. I mean, they do travel the country's entire width on the train in less than a day. And not even on a bullet train or anything. Plain old steam locomotives. They don't travel much faster than a car, and in fact averaged about 50 mph. So Fiore's probably not much bigger than, say, Texas at the most. And while Texas is pretty big, it isn't even close to "the whole world". So even if they achieve their objective here, they'll have to face the rest of the world with no reliable source of supplies, no people to create those supplies, and no one to take care of the zillion other things that make a society a society. And the more they conquered, the worse their condition would get.
    • Apparently the "World of Magic" would boost the powers of mages like Hades' followers so they wouldn't need the normal people anymore. Meredy for one was under the delusion that she could restore her Doomed Hometown in the World of Magic. Urtear also thought her Time Master powers would be enhanced so she could get back her lost childhood. And it's not like Grimoire Heart's members are particularly sane anyway.
    • A much more probable explanation is that they are exhibiting the typical villain trait of being incredibly short-sighted and didn't consider such things as logistics. They just thought "A world with no Muggles? Awesome!!!!"

Seriously, Laxus should be dead.
  • Okay, this may take some explaining. I have a theory about why people seem to take insane amounts of magical damage without dying, which explain (to a decent degree) why the people have survived up to this point. The way magic is explained (the flow from within meeting and mixing with the flow from without), implies that mages have the ability to take in energy from outside themselves and redirect or change it in some way, which would in turn imply that they have some kind of buffering or dampening system in place to keep them from being harmed by their own magic. This is supported by Ultear's past, which claimed that her magic power as a child was too great for her body hold, and this could be theoretically fixed. This also makes Dragon Slayer more credible as a magic anyone could theoretically learn, since it's really just an enhancement of this intrinsic ability in mages. That would explain both how Dragon Slayers eat their own elements and convert it into magic, and why they're far more resistant to magical damage that doesn't come from another Dragon Slayer. It also explains why raw physical force or damage is not blunted in the same way as purely magical attacks. This explains why Visca Moulin survived the magical backlash of shooting the lachryma crystal Laxus had set up as part of his Thunder Palace or whatever. Her body automatically absorbed and deflected the worst of the damage. But. In the last chapter, Laxus took an extremely powerful magical attack without the buffer of his own magic. He literally gave his magic to Natsu (not going into that particular implausibility right now), leaving himself defenseless. And he survived the attack well enough to grin and explain his motivations. Erza was shocked that he would take the hit without his magic... implying that yes, having magic power left in you actually does protect you from other magic to a degree. And it's not like magic can't kill you, or that Hades was trying to not kill Luxus, or even holding back at all. So. What the fuck?
  • It's pretty much been established by now that the stronger the wizard the more physical and magical damage they can take. Particularly dragon slayers which are notoriously resilient to damage. The direct implication is that the higher magic levels in the body, the greater resilience to damage and death. And even that said, we know that extremely powerful wizards can maintain themselves as astral bodies for centuries and even manipulate the environment and magic around them. Hell, one of them created a foster family for Wendy that interacted with her for 6 years. Whether it is the strength of the magical consciousness prevailing more over the magical body is unknown, but the greater the magic power the greater the ability to sustain high levels of damage. This has been established previously many times in the series.
  • Laxus is just that awesome? There doesn't really seem to be another explanation.
  • Just to note, even without his magic power he's still built like a tank, which I would imagine helps considerably when taking hits.

The guards around the heart
Hades had 7 uber mages, the ability to make nigh indvunerable demons, and that Blue Note creep. Why send them out or hold them back and leave nameless fodder to guard his heart?
  • He probably figured the Seven Kin would be more useful out on the field. Blue Note was doing his own thing looking for Fairy Glitter. Hades himself was staying near his heart and probably thought nothing would go wrong if he was nearby. And it's not like the fact that he receives unlimited magic from the heart is common knowledge — Happy and Charle didn't even know that it was Hades' power source when they destroyed it. Still, it would make sense to install better security measures to protect your own source of power than a bunch of nameless mooks.

Loke teaming up with Gray
The rules stated you had to team up with a member, which Loke claimed to be, but didn't he sorta quit the guild in his arc? He was returned to the spirit world before he could rejoin. Did they just decide to let him become a member again in spite of being Lucy's summon? When would that have happened anyway?
  • Well guilds or at least Fairy Tail doesn't have restrictions about species given that Happy and Charle are members, so I guess there is no problem with a Stellar Spirit being a member. And Leo/Loke is capable of returning to earth any time he wants using his own powers.

Mavis Vermillion
I'm really glad everybody on the island survived, I really am.note  But... was she foreshadowed or something? I know this is a manga about mages after all and weird things happen all the time but come on! It wouldn't taken a lot of panels to foreshadow her or anything. You're better than that, Mashima!! I'm not even confused about the magic she used. I mean, Fairy Law and Fairy Glitter exist for crying out loud. Fairy Sphere is a mostly logical step up from those. But it still could have been implemented better.
  • BTW, when I say "her," I mean her spirit. I'd actually believe without any problems at all that they were protected just because her grave was there. Hell, it'd even make sense why Makarov chose Tenrou Island as a base for the exam: to minimize fatal injuries.
    • She appears for a full page in the chapter where the chapter where the island is destroyed
    • Before Makarov attacked the Grimoire Heart ship, he was at her gravesite and he asked her to protect the guild members on the island.
    • She actually was foreshadowed several times in the arc during the battle. We often saw her in a few panels watching the battle. It was mostly a case of "Who's she? Who's that? What's that girl doing here. Oh shit, it's the first!" for the readers.

Ultear's fight with Gray
I liked the fight when I first saw it, but recently I rewatched it and one big question mark stuck in my brain: Why did Ultear even switch to Ice-Make halfway through? Granted, Gray pulled off that whole "frozen blood" thing when he attacked Ultear with Hyojin Nanarenbu, so she was unable to evaporate his ice, but all his subsequent attacks were just regular Ice-Make again, which Ultear could've easily Arc of Time'd yet she for some reason started using Ice-Make as well which eventually led to her loss.

    X 791 Arc 
The Tenrou group is comparatively much weaker to everyone else after the 7 year gap.
  • The "7 year blank" thing doesn't really make sense when considered on a larger scale. For comparative peers who've aged 7 years it does makes sense that their magic increased in that time, but think of it this way: people are always aging, growing older and getting experience, but there are set levels in power that are always going to be difficult to reach - hence why the 10 wizard saints don't change for years on end until someone gains decades of experience to challenge them. For dragon slayers such as Sting and Rogue, who are approximately the same age, they should be on the same level as Natsu from 7 years ago. And when you consider that Natsu beat Zero - a prodigy, master of his magic with at least 15 years of experience on Natsu - it shouldn't practically be possible for Max, who was a mediocre 20-something year old wizard, to gain 7 years of magic levels and be able to match him (or at least give Natsu a run for his money). (True, pure fighting experience can improve technique enough that even without huge increases in magic power, it can compensate for the lack, but despite his inability to strategise, Natsu has intensive battle experience anyway).

    Grand Magic Games Arc 
Spirit World Time
For the sake of the joke, I'll let it slide that the time difference happened to coincide with the time the cast had, but if time passes slower in the celestial/stellar world, then what about all those times Aquarius went on dates. She had a two week vacation once. Either she was trying to talk Lucy into giving her over three years off or she was really only spending a couple hours with Scorpio.
  • Knowing Aquarius, I wouldn't put that last part by her.
  • I think she asked for two weeks real world time. If three months in the real world was only one night in the spirit world, then two weeks in the real world would be a few hours in the spirit world. That actually makes her request sound much more reasonable. The real question is, why do they ask for certain days of the week? How does that work out?

Fairy Tail's team lineup
So the team for the new Tournament Arc is Natsu, Gray, Erza, Lucy, and Wendy. Laxus, Gajeel and Mirajane being too late to enter is understandable; shit happens. Why couldn't they get ahold of Gildarts? I'm sure he'd drop whatever he was doing to help out for a few days; despite never being around, he loves Fairy Tail and will do anything he can to help his guild. And Juvia is readily available! Why doesn't she take Lucy or Wendy's spot? Seriously, why is Lucy and Wendy even there to begin with. Yeah, they's got enormous potential, but Lucy is useless under pressure and Wendy is still a child who has just learned to fight. Also, why not consider equally strong magicians like Freed, Bickslow and Evergreen?
  • Raven Tail is gonna be there. Laxus and Gajeel can't be there because for story purposes, it would sort of be conflict of interests. Who knows, though? Maybe they'll show up anyway just Rule of Drama.
  • Gildarts had no interest in the Games and left the guild to go on another long journey. He even said it was their responsibility to make the guild respectable again. Mirajane didn't come back until Elfman and Lisanna did, but Elfman beat her to joining the team in Wendy's absence. And as for Lucy being "useless," that's an entirely different debate altogether.
    • Lucy is capable of doing a lot of things. Her problem is that when the fight isn't going her way, her brain just stops. That, or some one steals her keys.
    • As it turned out, Lucy was very capable of battling in the Games, and would have actually won in her battle had Raven Tail not fight dirty
  • Turns out that those characters (aside from Gildartz) are on Fairy Tail's B-team.
  • I think a bigger question here is why Makarov didn't stick all his aces on the one team. I do understand that that is kinda an "all your eggs" scenario but ( especially with the last minute Jellal addition) why he didn't go with Jellal, Laxus, Mira, Erza and then pick, say, Natsu or Gajeel, then stick all his other top tiers in the B Team is completely beyond me. Let's be honest here, a team that stacked would have about as much a chance of losing as Alexander the Great in Persia. His B team would be pretty badass as well, Gray, Lucy, Wendy, Natsu/Gajeel and Juvia.
    • Except the 'team' is more than bunch of powerhouses. As Erza said, when Makarov named the team line-up, coordination between team members is more critical then power level of every single mage in it. So put in one bottle Erza, Natsu, Gray, Lucy and Wendy, and you'll have balanced team which can achieve enormous heights, but mix together Natsu, Laxus and/or Gajeel, for example,... BOOM! Even later, when they actually have proper motivation to work together as a team, they are still rivals at very least.
    • Granted the team needs to have some cooperation to work, but Jellal and Erza would obviously get along great with eachother, neither of them has a real problem with Laxus anymore, who himself doesn't harbour any real aggression towards the guild at this point, Mira is a sweetheart and can work with just about anyone and while Natsu/Gajeel are a little rowdy and don't always think clearly, they do have the best interests of the guild at heart and have proven in the past that when it really counts(like the end of the Edolas arc) they are willing to put their rivalries aside and work together. On top of which, if nothing else, they are all pretty much gauranteed to win their individual duels against most of the people there(so long as nobody interferes *cough*Ultear*cough*), and all have an at least reasonable shot at the competitions(except poor Natsu on the vehicles). As far as power synergy goes as well, we have 4 Lightning Bruisers: Jellal, Erza, Mira, Laxus, and Natsu himself while not as fast or straight up powerful(normally) as the others is no slouch in either department, all 5 of them can fight in melee or range if they need to, 3 of them can actively fly, the other 2 can get around so well they may as well be able to, 2 of them have a super mode that boosts their powers beyond their already ridiculous heights, their abilities cover a very broad range as far as types go go, We have at least 4 Determinators the only one who hasn't proven himself one yet is Laxus, but he can take it just as well as he can give it... that sounds like a pretty strong team all in all in my opinion.
    • Who saves the day at the end of almost every story arc? Team Natsu. Makorav realized that they should be on the same team, since theyv'e had a hand in every crisis since Lucy joined the guild, and Jellal thought that something bad was going to go down at the games. They work well together, are pretty powerful, had experience working together as a team(whereas Erza and Natsu have more experience fighting Laxus and though they could have a civilized conversation, things were still awkward between Erza and Jellal), and he could still put any one else he didn't want to waste on another team. Plus, Natsu (in the anime at least, I'm not that far in the manga) refuses to do missions without Lucy, so he might of just asked for her to be on his team.
    • This is most likely done for meta reasons. Gildarts' absence is explained in-universe, but it is also due to Deus Exit Machina. His fights against anyone (except Jura) would be boringly one-sided, which goes against the primary Plot Thread of the arc, which was Fairy Tail going from being considered the weakest guild to winning the competition. Lucy's involvement featured Accetable Breaks From Reality because (1) she is the main female protagonist of the series (2) she is the main Butt-Monkey of the series. Having her abused by Flare and Minerva later during the games (in two separate events) makes Fairy Tail's eventual victory more dramatic by adding an element of revenge. She is also required due to the arc's other plot threads. It would be rather jarring for a character cheering from the sidelines to be suddenly thrust into focus for the Eclipse 2.0 Plan. Then there's the other plot thread involving future Lucy coming to save the world from the dragon attack, which would flow more naturally (from a story-telling perspective) if the present Lucy was actively involved in the plot. (Imagine a future Max or even a future Lisanna coming to save the world, leading to the audience wondering how they suddenly became so plot-important.) Wendy is also involved because she is a Dragon Slayer, and they are a kind of big deal in-universe. It also leads to her friendship with Cheria, which becomes important in one of the next arcs.

Raven Tail a legal guild
Considering the how the council is concerning Fairy Tail. How the hell were Raven Tail made a legal guild?
  • We don't know yet. We just have to assume they pulled some legal trickery and have friends in high places. Besides, the council mainly dislikes Fairy Tail due to their destructive tendencies, and we've seen no evidence that Raven Tail is anything like that.

Flare holding Asca hostage
Not that I'm for the beating of innocent little girls but if Flare actually HAD hurt Asca, certainly she could have been openly disqualified note  and Lucy would've won the round. If Makarov and Alzack had reported the incident, there's no way it wouldn't have carried weight.
  • Because the judges are too dumb to realize what Flare's doing, and she's probably just holding some sort of Batman Gambit, knowing that Lucy will halt her attacks if she saw an innocent about to be hurt.
  • I think she cares a lot more about Asca getting hurt, than whether or not Raven Tail would had been disqualified for doing so.
  • As its later revealed Raven Tail doesn't give a crap about winning. They're simply there to harass Fairy Tail and try to get someone to spill what that thing in the basement is. Worried about getting thrown out due to cheating wasn't even an issue.
  • Another thing to ask here is if Flare is suicidal. Sure it may have been an effective tactic, but what would she have done if Lucy called her bluff? Actually hurt the kid? I didn't get the impression she was that stupid. If she had actually hurt her, let's think about what exactly would have happened to her. Erza, Mira, Jellal, Laxus, Natsu, Gray, Lucy, Gajeel, Juvia, Elfman, Ever, Fried, Alzack, etc. would have all proceeded to kick the ever living shit out of her. Alzack and Bisca may have actually killed her. Sure Raven Tail may have stepped in to help her, but there is no way in hell they could stand up to all of Fairy Tail, and that's not even counting Makarov who may very well have just whipped out the Fairy Law on the spot to make her submit or die. And let's not forget and the First Master here, who could stand up to Ancologia while dead. God only knows what would have happened if she had stepped in. And this isn't even counting all the other people in that arena who would have stepped in, like Jura for example. Honestly if Lucy had thought about it she would probably have called the bluff, or at least outlined if Flare knew the consequences of actaully going through with it, because as hardcore a guild as Raven Tail is, there is no way in hell it would be willing to fight that entire arena at once. And possibly die in the process.
    • Even more weight is added to this when one remembers that Laxus beat the entirety of the Raven Tail team alone with one hit each.
    • I'd say Flare isn't so much suicidal as she is ignorant of Fairy Tail's opinion on people who hurt their friends. I can certainly imagine some form of retribution being inflicted on her by Alzack and Bisca at the least, but how would Flare know this? Raven Tail doesn't seem to have a good deal of reliable info on Fairy Tail, remember Ivan claiming they were an Anti-Fairy Tail guild?
    • They have plenty of reliable info. Makarov is Ivan's father and Ivan must know how Makarov feels about people hurting his "children" even if he doesn't understand it. Taking that into account threatening to hurt the child of some of the guild members doesn't seem like the best plan. Aside from that, the whole hostage plan was based around exploiting Fairy Tail's extreme protectiveness. It's a good thing Lucy is about as smart as an automated spirit-summoning Lacryma or their whole plan would have backfired on them.
      • To be fair to Lucy, she's not the kind of person who would take that risk, even if Raven Tail had info on Fairy Tail, she herself didn't know how crazy Raven Tail was, and in the little time he has know about them, she believes Flare would do hurt Asca. It's not about whether Fairy Tail would take revenge for Asca on Flare or the whole guild, but only in preventing Asca getting hurt for a tournament.
      • I guess, but you have to admit that there is a point to be made here. Raven Tail may want to screw over Fairy Tail, and it may be more important to them than the tournament, but they probably aren't willing to die for it. And even if they are under the impression at that point that they have an anti-Fairy Tail guild and are set up to win against the major players, they surely must realize that they won't win against the whole guild at once. Thus threatening a child of the guild seems stupid, I mean all it would take is ONE wrong move on Flare's part, or one of the Guild Members to happen to look at the ground for whatever reason or hell even to have Asca turn around and the plan blows up in their face. It wasn't a very good plan and only worked because they were lucky and Lucy didn't think it through enough.
      • Well, they did get that right about Fairy Tail: they're very impulsive and don't think very far, even less in the heat of a battle. Plus, they were very confident: for the last seven years Fairy Tails became the laughing stock of the guilds, and didn't though that a bunch of kids would change that very much, and remember that Fairy Tail(both teams) started losing the tournament, so there is no reason for them to believe they couldn't take them, even if Fairy Tail were more. It was a stupid plan, but Flare doesn't seem very smart or stable to think of anything better.
      • They thought they could win, Ivan made what he called an anti-fairy guild and who knows how many other members he had, if you take the overpowerment the author gave FT out of the equation, it makes perfect sense.
      • Presuming you are right(which you easily could be upon reflection), are they arrogant enough to think they can take on Lamia Scale and Blue Pegasus at least at the same time? Because they for sure would step in to help Fairy Tail, not to mention Mermaid Heel and Quatro Puppy(arc isn't over yet and they lost the bet!) seem like decent enough people so they would probably help as well. Not to mention all the gaurds around who would have to step in if only to keep up appearances. I know I am nitpicking and that the plan did have a possibility of success that didn't depend on "it works because the author wants it to" but it still bugs me that Lucy didn't even try to think of a way out of it and just accepted it.
      • But Lucy had two choices, either lose a tournament round, or let the small child of your two friends be at best, badly injured, the choice was clear to a member of the nakama above everything guild. Not to mention that while the members of Blue Pegasus that know Lucy might believe her (there's no reason for Quatro Cerberus/Puppy to get involved, and they don't have that kind of relationship with Lamia Scale) there's still little proof other than Lucy's words, that and FT had never asked for help on that matter before, like when they were attacked first by Phantom Lord or even when Lucy was unfairly arrested in the tournament.
      • The only reason I mention Quatro Puppy and Lamia Scale is that they seem to be decent individuals and if they saw what Flare was doing they would probably done something, if only alert the gaurds. And the proof of her words is sitting right there in the open, all Fairy Tail has to do is look beside them to see it, and if noticed the whole plan backfires. Which is the root argument I have been making the entire time, the plan was stupid and took a not insignificant amount of luck on Flare's and derp on Lucy's part to work. Lucy did not have two options, she could most likely have bluffed(does it even count as a bluff if you are telling the truth?) Flare on the point by pointing out that if she said anything Flare was screwed legally whether she hurt the kid or not, and if Flare did go through with the threat she was in for a world of hurt(anti-guild or not she must be aware that if the entire guild of fairy tail focus fired her she would be royally screwed), not to mention would still be legally screwed. And even if Lucy had thought that the risk to the kid was too great, I would have had far less of a problem with that because that would mean she had actually tried to think of a solution rather than just go "Oh well I guess I should not use my brain and give in. Wouldn't want to give myself an aneurysm by thinking too hard." Then again this is Lucy we are talking about and she has not demonstrated the most astute mental capabilities in the past, not to mention a tendency to crack under pressure.
      • Raven Tail is a team that has resentment towards Fairy Tail, they already attacked Wendy and told it to their faces (but no one else), and the small big chinned guy went specifically and only after Grey on the first game of the festival. Flare was skilled enough to do what she was doing completely unnoticed while thousands of people were watching her, which is where all the proof issue comes to face, even the members of FT themselves didn't found out (except for Natsu and that was only because of his hearing, which rather came out of no where). Not to mention that this was a girl that willingly entered a group that made it their goal to crush, hurt, humiliate, etc. Fairy Tail and should had already taken in mind and accepted the consequences long ago and that up until her apology she looked extremely messed up and sadistic.
      • Fair point I suppose, Flare may have been crazy enough to just not care what happens to her, and people who are... a little out of it are noted for holes in their logic that frankly shouldn't be there so I guess that satisfies me. Doesn't make Lucy's lack of attempting to find another way out besides "let the shit get beaten out of me" any more acceptable though. Even if she had chosen that option in the end, at least making the attempt to find another solution would have been gratifying.
      • She did, she tried to simply surrender, Flare covered her mouth and "then" started beating her.
      • It's very likely that the reason why nobody noticed the little lock of Flare's hair appearing next to Asca is because everyone's attention was on the fight. While it would certainly take quite a bit of luck, the fact that Lucy was getting dominated makes it all the more plausible for everyone in the audience to be too distracted to notice what Flare was up to. The lock of red hair was small enough that the only ones who could've noticed it without actively looking for it was Fairy Tail, who were way too concerned for Lucy to tear their eyes away from the fight for even one second. It's a good thing Natsu had super hearing.
      • The better question is why no one from Fairy Tail, Lamia Scale or Blue Pegasus reported what happened to the judges, heck one of the judges KNEW what was going on and did absolutely nothing about it. Lucy was doing the only thing she could do in that moment, Raven Tail attacked Wendy before the tournament began and targeted Juvia and Gray almost exclusively in Hidden. Flare also looks acts and sounds like a god damned crazy person so Lucy is justified in fearing that she might actually hurt Asca.

Jiemma and Sting
Ok, mister Douchebag Bozu Jiemma, the master of Sabretooth, kicked Yukino out of the guild for losing a fight against a much more powerful opponent. Then, if he's so strict, why doesn't he at least scold Sting as well for quitting the Chariot challenge and ending last? Ok, I know that probably Sting's a better resource than Yukino, but still he did failed his challenge.
  • He did, he's been warned that he wont be forgiven next time, after all no one knew what the challenge was going to be, and Jiemma told Yukino that it wasn't just that she lost, but that by making such a bet, she made their reputation decrease even furder.

In Chapter 286
Everyone is keeping an eye on Ivan and the Team Raven Tail, though They're all an illusion summoned by Ivan himself so that he and his team can gang up on Laxus, but then, shouldn't Erza be able to see that something's wrong? Remember, her fake eye makes her less vulnerable to illusions... unless Ivan is that good...
  • We didn't see her reaction (or Mavis' either, come to think of it) after it happened, so maybe it'll be covered in the next chapter. Or yeah, it could be handwaved with the whole "his illusions are just way more powerful" or something.
  • Well, the Illusion's power might be justified if you think that Ivan made his team specifically for counter Fairy Tail, but as a former member, shouldn't he be able to see Mavis? Hence thinking that maybe carrying out his villainous plans in front of her couldn't be the brightest of moves?
    • Mavis said only those who have the Fairy Tail stamp on them can see her. Given that Ivan was expelled from Fairy Tail, his stamp was probably removed, and given his personality, he probably would have removed it himself anyway. Of course, we don't know if Laxus' stamp was removed when he was expelled (and reapplyed when he rejoined), or whether Jellal can see Mavis, so this point might be moot. But the possbility's there, and I can't see Mavis not doing something about it if she can see the illusion.
  • Erza isn't immune to magic involving eyes, she's 'resistant' to it. I think she could see through the illusion, if she knew where to look. Cheating with illusions was just unexpected.
    • Midnight's illusion directly affected the eye by distorting the way light enters the eye. The illusions that Ivan, and even Mystogan use seem to be more like hallucinations that feed directly into the mind, without having to do anything to the eye itself.

Why is the tournament such a big deal?
Fairy Tail was always the happy-go-lucky guild that never cared to much about how others viewed them. That is, until after the time-skip were they entered a magic tournament to restore their reputation, a tournament apparently important enough to break down in tears over. I can see a practical justification for this, in that a guild with poor reputation might have problems getting jobs, but qualifying for the tournament (with two teams, none the less) should be enough to get back on the market. Especially odd in Lucys match against the dirty-fighting Corona. A normal person would just say "Jeez, I give up. It's just a damn competition, let's not hold children hostage."
  • Fairy Tail has always had a competitive attitude. Members like Natsu, Gray, Gajeel, even Erza sometimes, have always been enthusiastic to fighting one and other.
  • Wasn't this adressed by Sting in the Chariot event? Natsu claimed it was for his friends or something.
    • Makarov says at the very beginning that he wanted the prize money to buy the original guild out of foreclosure.
  • And in Lucy case, she did try to surrender, but Corona wanted to make her suffer some more.

Everyone forgetting how strong the Fairy Tail members are after Tenroujima
.I mean, they were the strongest (with Lamia Scale and Blue Pegasus running a close second) and easily the most famous guild in Fiore, with some of their members (like Natsu) being borderline celebrities, or Mirajaine who is an actual celebrity. It's only been seven years since Tenroujima so how on earth did everyone forget about the main members? I mean sure fame fades with time, the average citizen certianly wouldn't be able to talk about all the celebrities from 30 years ago unless that was their prime, but they should definatly be able to talk about the ones from the past decade. It's understandable that they might think that other guilds are stronger ( especially with all the S-class and their candidates gone) but to completely forget about them? Mirajaine is a former super-model as well as being The Demon, Erza is famed as The Fairy Queen Titania, Gildarts is Gildarts, Natsu is known country wide at least by name, Laxus is pretty well known in his own right, as well as for being the grandson of Makarov, who is a Wizard Saint for crying out loud. Now, seven years is long enough for them to slip out of public consciousness certainly, but not enough for everyone to forget just how brutally strong some of these members are. Take MC Hammer for example, most young kids wouldn't be able to tell you who he is, but everyone at least in their teens will know the name at least. It's the same here, everyone who was a kid at the time probably looked up to them as heroes and role models, those in their teens would probably think of them as a group of Badasses and adults would at worst know of them as "those kids who wreck stuff" if nothing else. Seven years later all those people should still remember them, especially because of their mystery disappearance and not just blindly associate them with the joke Fairy Tail has become.
  • They were indeed remembered, but their opponents were kids who never saw their true strength and who now thing they're all that (Sting, Rogue), but as with MC Hammer people just moved on to the next big stars, Sabertooth. It's like people who see boxers now and think that they would beat old celebrities like Ali if they were to fare with the new sensations on their prime. The people who still had doubts paired up with the rest of the now weak FT once Gray ended up in last place and Lucy failed to cast a spell, even when against a wizard saint, Jellal's lost didn't favor their image, add to that the dragonslayers pathetic display on the race. They started slowly turning the tables (Elfman) but everyone quickly did a 180 once they started amazing everyone (Erza and Cana), even the judges and commentators went from would they live up to their old hype to can the others beat these legends.
  • OP here. I appreciate the explanation, and I can see people thinking Gray, Natsu, Lucy(who hilariously was a Memetic Badass in Fiore), Elfman... you know, the strong people, couldn't match up to the new celebs. But there is absolutely no excuse for thinking Erza, Mirajaine, Laxus... etc are jokes. Sure, you might think that the new ones are a bit better that's acceptable, but it just seemed that the majority of people assumed that since the new Fairy Tail is the butt of every joke, the S-Class from its glory days are jokes. They are S-Class for a reason, S-Class missions don't just become harder because time has passed, if they were monsters then they are monsters now. In fact, in my opinion, its more likely that a badass from the past would be more likely to be talked up then anything else, especially if they had the level of fame these people had(using the Ali example, it's very easy to find people who say Ali could dominate even harder today than in his day) but as I keep repeating (perhaps to much) they seem to just blindly associate them with the new Fairy Tail. Using the Ali example again, while people might think a new age boxer could beat him, I don't think ANYONE would think he is a joke, or wouldn't put up a fight. They would be more likely to say "That would be an epic match-up" rather than "He would kick Ali's ass with one hand". Joking aside of course. It kinda makes me wonder if people think GILDARTS, a man so dangerous they reconstruct a town every time he visits so he has a clear path, is pathetic. Or if people think Makarov Fairy Freakin Law Dreyar isn't worthy of being a Wizard Saint anymore.
    • But they didn't think of the S class mages as a joke, team A on the other hand made a bad first impression by and barely making the preliminaries. Their perception was affected because of this, they see Gray and Mistgun losing and think that it's just the passage of time and they weren't as strong as they thought, or at least that they were strong but the new generation set up a new bar, which is how Sting and Rogue thought. They knew Natsu and Gajeel were strong, they just thought they were now stronger, that with time the bar was raised, and take in mind that this is only thought by regular people or people who were too young to know see their real strength, other mages that knew them knew better than this.
  • The Grand Magic Games allowing the public to witness guilds fighting may be a factor in this. Before, sure Fairy Tail was always wrecking everything, but after 7 years of watching Sabertooth win the GMG and seeing Fairy Tail lose, that might have shaped their perception.

The Villain's Plans
So, why did Future Rogue think he'd be able to defeat Acnologia in the present with an army of dragons that Acnologia already killed with ease 400 years ago? Was he relying on Acnologia being out of practice or something?
  • Acnologia wasn't the only Dragon Slayer running around 400 years ago, just the most prolific. No one ever said he killed all the dragons by himself, let alone that he took them on all at once and killed them with ease. [[spoiler: And in the Tartaros arc he had his arm torn off by a weakened Igneel, so while he could probably take on multiple weaker dragons, 10,000 all under Future Rogue's control would be far too many based on what we know of him.
  • The eclipse gate could be used ONLY if one person in the past opened the gate and one in the present or future does the same as Anna (past) and Layla (present/future?) did. so future rogue opened the gate here. how the fuck did he get someone from the past to open the gate for him? Anna heartfillia has a book for her decendants explaining that someone in x777 has to open the gate for her. Future rogue does not Answer this Hiro Mashima.]]
Not disclosing the two team rule beforehand
  • This is a meta headscratcher: There was no in-universe reason for the announcers to introduce the 8th placed qualified team as Fairy Tail (instead of Fairy Tail Team A). The fact that each guild is allowed two teams was kept under the wraps until the last possible moment, which was when the 2nd placed qualified team, Fairy Tail Team B, was introduced. While this suspense was due to Rule of Drama, it serves no purpose at all. All that it leads to is (1) Erza wondering before the qualification event why the number of teams is so high. (Since the number of guilds was never plot important, the audience gets no payoff from this revelation.) and (2) Natsu announcing that he will defeat everyone, even if they are guildmates, followed by Gajeel making a snarky comeback remark. (Neither of which has ever happened before.) On the other hand, it allows the B team's progress through the qualification event to be handled entirely offscreen. (Nearly everyone would have been more interested in seeing that.) Perhaps Mashima originally intended to do the revelation in a more dramatic way, or perhaps he realized the problem the in-universe organizers would run into when another guild gets disqualified and Retconned a "B" team just in time to deal with that.

    Taiyou Village Arc 
Chapter 298
  • So Flare of Raven Tail decides to apologise to Lucy, obviously concerning her actions on the first day. After apologising, she stalks off. Considering she didn't look like she was going to enjoy the resort of Ryuuzetsu Land, why get into a swimsuit?
    • She could just have been hanging out at Ryuuzetsu Land by herself, before Lucy and the rest of Fairy Tail arrived, and she decided to apologise.
  • How come Erza didn't say back in the Sun Village arc or even the end of the Grand Magic Games arc, "You know what Minerva? Screw you. You're dead to me. You're nothing but a heartless maniac and you have no place in the world. You're an irredeemable scumbag and the world would be better off without you"?

    Tartarus Arc 
Zeref and Tartarus
  • So apparently the demons of Tartarus have never actually met Zeref and the main reason they are doing anything at all is because they think it will let them see Zeref. Is there a reason that Zeref can't or won't pay them a visit? He recently teleported right into their base to have a chat with Natsu! Is there a reason for his aloofness, or is Zeref just being the ultimate "Well Done, Son" Guy?
    • The reason is because Zeref for a while stayed away from humans and actually felt empathy and love for them. He may of created them by accident as it's established he has no real control of his powers, and then left so as to let them wander aimlessly. He may want to end humanity, but he means it in a sympahtetic way. Tartarus is full of demons who kill humans because they want to. He doesn't approve most likely.
    • Zeref, from his conversation with Natsu, also clearly expressed some level of pride when it comes to the demons that make up Tartarus, while Kyouka practically idolizes Zeref and has nothing but pure Undying Loyalty towards him. Zeref also said it would be a 'killjoy' if he just showed up on his own (or says that it 'isn't fair' that he shows up to Natsu but not to them depending on the translation), which is why he is neither praising them nor trying to stop them. It could be argued either way that he actually meant what he said about either E.N.D. or Natsu finding him and is going to let them fight it out for that honor, or maybe he just doesn't have the heart to put down his own creations when they have nothing but adoration for him, and would rather let Fairy Tail do it instead.
    • Okay, we have an actual answer for this now: Zeref created his demons specifically to kill him, since nobody and nothing else seems to be able (or willing) to do so. The Nine Demon Gates don't seem to know what their true purpose is, but Mard Geer does. Mard Geer created a Curse specifically designed to kill someone immortal like Zeref via Cessation of Existence, and E.N.D., Zeref's most powerful demon, is stated to be one of the few things left in the world that could possibly do the job. Basically, Zeref told a Half-Truth to Natsu: It would be a 'kill joy' because E.N.D. isn't back yet, and nobody present except possibly Mard can fulfill the demons' true purposes, especially since the Nine Demon Gates still seem to be thinking that once they're reunited with their creator, they'll have a Happily Ever After instead of their creator turning out to be a Death Seeker that created a bunch of Laser-Guided Tyke-Bomb demons.

As revealed in chapter 400, Igneel was inside Natsu the entire time?
While that by itself isn't too confusing, what with Acnologia and his whole "Was Once a Man, Fuck-you-I'm-a-dragon-now" weirdness, it's just that this isn't the first time Acnologia has threatened Natsu. Where was Igneel when Acnologia showed up at Tenrou? His son definitely could have used his help then.
  • Because this seems to be basically last ditch, hidden ace up the sleeve, trump card. ALL the actually taught by a dragon, dragon slayers had a reaction of something coming via their increased heartbeats. The situation is much more dire and there is really no chance of Mavis being able to use Fairy sphere is.

Tenrou Island doesn't count for four reasons.1) The Tenrou Jade/Tree was there and any person with the fairy tail mark could not die.2) I'm betting the dragons knew Mavis was there and knew that Fairy Sphere had a good chance of happening.3) Everyone was not as beaten up as they are now.4) The situation in Tenrou Island was much lesser then it is now with E.N.D., Mard Geer, and Acnologia all potentially being in the same room, if the Spirit King had stayed longer I doubt Igneel would of showed up so soon.

This has been hinted at since Laxus went temporarily crazy and did that rule thing about people over 80 years old. It's pretty much closing a plot thread after 400 chapters.

So yeah it's a much different situation.

Are Sting and Rogue idiots?
  • Seriously, in both the fights with the dragons and with Tartaros, the Twin Dragon Slayers find themselves severely outmatched. They are also the only dragon slayers capable of using Dragon Force at will. Why do they never use it?! Do they want to die? If you are facing an opponent that aims to kill you, isn't it common sense to go at them with everything you have, especially when you are already getting your butt royally kicked? Why do they insist on holding back. It borders on Too Dumb to Live.
    • It's a tough question but there's a few possible reasons. Given what we learned in the Tartaros arc, Skiadrum and Weisslogia may have been making them subconsciously hold back in order to prevent them from becoming more dragon-like. Another possibility is that they want to train their base level forms to get stronger. Against the dragons and Mard Geer, they were overmatched but not at the point of death, so maybe they were holding Dragon Force back for the last. It could also be that since they enter Dragon Force because of tapping into their lachrymas, that they have to take a long time to charge their energy back up after using it.

Mard Geer and E.N.D
So, E.N.D is another personality of Natsu that was sealed away, or something along those lines. So, why didn't Mard Geer recognize him? Had he never actually seen him before?
  • Well it could be E.N.D or Natsu looked different than he does now.
    • Speaking about this is E.N.D evil? With the revelation Natsu is E.N.D it does not seem like he could be this evil demon the story made him seem like with the hints about his time in Tartaros.

    Avatar Arc 
Wendy's Dragon Force
Alright, so I'm all for seeing Wendy be a total badass and activate her Dragon Force at will in Chapter 432. But isn't that supposed to be, well, impossible for anyone other than a Third Generation Dragon Slayer? Granted, Wendy's a very fast learner, and pretty much a child prodigy, but doesn't "Dragon Force at will" seem a bit unrealistic, if not completely impossible?
  • With Natsu entering Dragon Force during his fight with Mard Geer after Igneel left his body, I think the story's implying that the dragons leaving the dragon slayer's bodies allows the First Generation to access Dragon Force easier. Add that with the Time Skip, it's not impossible anymore.
  • I see what you mean, and it could very well be true, but remember, this is Natsu and Wendy you're comparing. Wendy is obviously very skilled, but Natsu is on a completely different level. He already attained Dragon Force twice before. I can see him activating it at will because he is simply that powerful, but it doesn't seem to me like Wendy has the power or the experience yet to do the same. If anyone has something on the contrary, I'd love to be proven wrong.
  • We're all leaving a piece of the puzzle out here. Dragon Force is usually gained by eating a lot of the Dragon Slayer's native element. Wendy's element is air. She can go into Dragon Force by taking a lot of deep breaths.

Time Paradox
Okay, so, if Gray killing Frosch in the future was supposed to have sent Rogue over the edge, shouldn't his death have caused a time paradox during the dragon invasion? After all, without Gray alive to kill Frosch the next year, Rogue wouldn't have any motivation to go over the edge in the first place.
  • You could also argue that, with the destruction of the Eclipse gate, there can be no more time travel into the past after that point anyway, which means Future!Rogue and Future!Lucy could never have arrived in the first place and interfered with the dragon invasion, setting time back on course with the first timeline again and causing time to constantly alternate between the 3 timelines. This of course causes the even bigger problem of stopping time from ever progressing forward, so it's more likely that the universe has a auto-correction feature and just threw up it's hands and said, "fuck it, anything that time-traveled is erased" whilst still leaving everything else intact, causing the 3rd timeline to become finalized, which is the one we now see everyone living through.

    Alvarez Empire Arc 
Alvarez sudden mention and importance.
Why has Alvarez a very large threat and major player in the world of Earthland not been mentioned at all before in the manga or their being any character originally from there despite it's massive size and future importance?
  • Alzack, Bisca, and Mermaid Heel's Beth were from there originally, and it's unclear how long it's been since its countries were united into an empire. (the only information we have is that they were active three years ago)
  • It was mentioned several times (including Gray's flashback during the Galuna Island arc) that mages in the west are so powerful that even Ur doesn't compare to them. Alvarez may not have been mentioned by name, but the idea that there's a continent to the west with absurdly strong mages has been around for a while.
Alvarez, fiore power discrepancy
Why are the Spriggan 12 the only fighters Alvarez has that seem even remotely strong? Their armies which are soldiers and implied mages from all over the empire, which, if I might add is a empire that spans an entire continent and is governed by the greatest mind in the history of magic, are incapable of combatting just a few guilds they outnumber 300/1 for Alvarez least numerous battlefield but their troops get mowed down like dogs despite Fiore being mentioned as a small country and this being an elite army. If any thought went into Alvarez by Mashima wouldn't mooks alone at least be equal one on one to fodder of these guilds and officers who numbers alone most likely outnumber the guilds numbers 10/1 at a conservative estimate should be equal or greater. Yet the mooks get taken out with ease until a Spriggan shows up a curbstomps the guilds until Fairy Tail shows up which leads to the next point.
  • Conservation of Ninjutsu, and if their performance against Natsu was any indication, the vast majority of Alvarez's army doesn't consist of magic users. (even in Fiore, mages make up 10% of the population at best)
    • the very fact there a definite percentage of the population actually makes it much worse. Give how Fiore has 17 million people and the top five guilds fighting against Alvarez combined is around six hundred. There are only six hundred fighter in Fiore capable of holding their own against Alvarez. A logical problem which really hurt and is quite obvious is that fiore is fighting alone against a whole continent which was stated to have an even greater number of mages than the whole of ishgar let alone Fiore. doubling the number of the top five guilds by a realistic estimation of equal tier mages across the continent alvarez rule's over. They should have at least seven thousand mage's on par with Fiore best with the spriggan 12 and their squad's handling fairy tail. The shear fridge logic brought up by this is almost inexcusable given how there no way Alvarez could be weaker in magic than Ishgar by magnitude considering Zeref is their emperor and he's the reason fairy tail got so strong in the first place. The only reason that Alvarez is trimmed so munch is giving them even the lower end of combatants would be impossible to defeat. Which would add a headscratcher of it's own: Why did Mashima make Alvarez rule over an entire continent if they have to be so much weaker than by all logic should be?
How is it possible that members of a single guild nearly all of whom originate from a small country as mentioned in the manga,
Despite being heroes, despite the fact they have faced great challenges before, despite having rare magics, despite all of the challenges they faced. be capable of combating and defeating mages who are the strongest not just from their country but their continent? One could make the argument that thanks to all of the weird and rare magic and opponents Fairy tail has faced they are high above any normal curve even for elite mages sure. But that goes out the window when the mages their fighting are lead by Zeref who vast knowledge and experience throw out the window what Fairy tail has experience or had since he created, taught or is well beyond the Knowledge of magic curve Fairy tail has faced.
Serena betrayal and death
.Why did Mashima have Ishgar's strongest mage turncoat without an explained reason and then KILL! Him off without showing off all his powers? Wouldn't it have served the story just as much to just have Serena be a power spriggan instead of a turncoat. If Mashima really only planned on him getting killed to show off Acnologia power?
  • Before he was Killed Mid-Sentence, he mentioned that he joined Alvarez to find and kill Acnologia, presumably to stroke his own ego or prove that he's the greatest Dragon Slayer. Considering the strength of Zeref and the Spriggan Twelve, it's likely that he thought they were his best chance at pulling that off.
No continental allience against Alvarez
Why is no nation's coming to fiore aid or even any mention of other countries fighting Alvarez? Alvarez is the strongest country in the world so wouldn't all nations of Ishgar band together when a year ago the continent lost it only deterrent against Alvarez?
  • First: Mashima said that he doesn't want to do a lot about those countries because even the names are random and he created them on a whim Second: it was mentioned that all of the guilds in bosco have been defeated and since Alvarez objective is to get fairy heart many countries might not care at all.
  • There's also some Truth in Television here. Even Real Life countries avoid getting involved in wars that do not concern them directly, even though it may be obvious that they would be affected eventually. The United States didn't enter the Second World War for nearly 2 years, even though a possible Axis victory (which would have resulted in Germany, Japan and Italy controlling most of Europe, Asia and Africa) would be very bad for American interests. When they did enter the war, it was mostly for It's Personal reasons. More recently, it is fairly obvious how a certain terrorist organization (ISIS) would be a threat to every country if they got too powerful, but how many countries got involved when ran over Iraq and Syria?
Fiore not calling for aid.
Why did the distress beacon set off by Ichiya not send for help from neighboring nations like Seven and Iceberg? Bosco was conquered true but their been no word from the other two country formerly mentioned who are closest to Fiore and their been no word of Alvarez have armies attacking those countries or messages of Aid coming or not for fire.
  • It was said that all of the guilds in bosco were defeated
Zeref and Mavis
Chapter 509 strongly suggests that Zeref and Mavis had a kid together but how is that possible if Mavis died when they kissed and then her body was stuck in a crystal for years?
  • the only real answer that seem logical now is that Zeref and Mavis did more than she let on and Larcade is immortal and so older than he look. Or Everthing we have heard up till now from Mavis about her past is a complete and total fabrication.
    • it is a possibility that Larcade himself is an etherious made from mavis' DNA and his DNA
    • How do you explain the fact that Mavis was affected by Larcade magic then?
  • A possible theory that implies Nightmare Fuel : Zeref could have desecrated Mavis's body by taking a DNA sample with the intention of artificially fertilizing it, and raping what he thought to be her corpse. After all, Zeref conserved Natsu's dead body with the morbid intention of resurecting him, instead of accepting his death and moving on with his life. Everybody and Zeref himself consider him to be the victim of a Jerkass God, but he did want to bend the laws of Nature despite his teachers' warnings and got cursed as a result. Going back at the question, it proves that Zeref isn't a Nice Guy like Mavis thought him to be, but rather a Sociopath, and his raping of her would explain why she was affected by Larcade's magic but didn't understand what was the heat she felt.
  • Recent chapters suggest it was a Sexy Discretion Shot mixed with Out with a Bang. At any rate, their kid is actually August, which makes sense given how long ago it would have happened.
Igneel's fire
If Igneel's fire can harm Zeref, how come Zeref didn't ask Igneel to kill him back when he wanted to die?
  • It's possible that Igneel's fire is only effective when wielded by END.
  • Did you read the chapter ? It's explicitly said, it's the fact the power is granted from the death that it could maybe work ( again it's only a maybe we don't know if it would have worked )
Irene's desire to possess a new body
If Irene wanted a new body so badly, why didn't she take Sting or Rogue? Her unit had already defeated them and they were unconscious and ripe for the picking. They are Dragon Slayers who have stopped the seed from growing. Wouldn't that have made them ideal substitutes for her?
  • Several possible reasons: a) She didn't know about the fact until she battled Wendy. b) It's possible she wants a female body. c) It's also possible that by that time she had abandoned the whole "new body" plan and only tried it on Wendy because she was both a Dragon Slayer(Who will never become a dragon) AND an Enchantress, so she would eventually be as powerful as she was right then, while other people would be far less powerful.
Lucy knowing about Natsu being END
.I feel like I might have missed something. I can't recall a moment when Lucy is told about the identity of END. Sure there were subtle instances that may have been dead giveaways to her, but it seems as if she already knows about it by the time she and Gray have the book in their possession. So was there a scene that I missed that had this reveal to her? Or was it done offscreen?
  • In chapter 512, Happy mentions that Natsu will die if Zeref does, and he mentions in 527 that the book of E.N.D. is Natsu's book.
Spriggan 12's membership
  • It is clearly stated that there are 12 members and the organization has existed for a long time thanks to Zeref's age, then what happened to the wizard that got replaced when God Serena defected to their side? If that wizard is as powerful as the rest, throwing he or she out is a very stupid thing to do.
Did Ultear lie about the consequences of having one's Third Origin released?
  • Or is Sherria's magic returning something that even Ultear couldn't predict? Why would she need to clarify that they would lose their magic if she knew it would return in time?

Angel no longer a Celestial Mage?
So during the Key of Starry Heavens Arc, Midnight explains that they need to sacrifice a Celestial Spirit Mage to the Infinity Clock, which is why they had Michelle/Imitatia lure Lucy to them. Except...Angel's right there with them. Why not use her? Is she no longer a Celestial Mage after losing her contracts, or does Midnight and the other just not wanna sacrifice a comrade? An acknowledgement of either would be nice.
  • No Contract means no Celestial Spirits to Summon. You have to have the key with you to summon them and the contract to even consider doing so. Since Angel has no Celestial Spirits, she isn't considered one since Lucy has her Keys.
  • But Lucy only took her golden keys. Doesn't Angel still have that silver key that summons a drone spirit, and therefore a contract with a spirit?
    • Remember that is was Gemini itself who delivered the Golden Keys to Lucy. It wouldn't have been able to do that if they were still contracted to Angel. So we can assume that when Angel was arrested at the end of the Oración Seis arc that all her contracts were dissolved and her remaining keys were probably confiscated.
How did the Neo Oración Seis escape?
The "Key to the Starry Heavens" arc revolves around the Neo Oración Seis and their attempts to claim the Infinity Clock. We know that prior to this, they'd been locked up in the Magic Council's prison, and it was only thanks to Cardinal Lapointe's efforts that they escaped. However, we later learn that Lapointe was merely a magical clone of Brain/Zero created by Midnight, which raises all kinds of questions. Presumably, Midnight created Lapointe sometime before the timeskip, since he'd been able to work his way to such a high position in the Zentopia hierarchy, but that would imply that Midnight had been planning things for at least seven years, and that he was doing so right under Brain's nose. Furthermore, the entire point of using the Infinity Clock is to succeed where Zero failed, which would suggest that he already knew that Nirvana would fail somehow. That would seem to indicate that he didn't make Lapointe before the Nirvana incident, but the other possibilities make even less sense. Right at the end of the Nirvana arc, all of the Oración Seis members were captured by the Magic Council and thrown into an anti-magic prison, so Midnight couldn't have cast the spell to create Lapointe to free them in the first place. Creating Lapointe during the Nirvana incident is also implausible, for most of the same reasons as creating him beforehand, with the added catch that he probably wouldn't have had time to do so with everything else going on. In other words, no matter what way you slice it, it's just a big timeline snarl.

Why does Aquarius get to abuse Lucy with no consequences?
  • We saw that when a celestial spirit unknowingly and accidentally contributed to the death of his contracted wizard he was banned from returning to the spirit realm, essentially a form of execution. Yet Aquarius willfully and deliberately catches Lucy in her attacks, going so far to attack her instead of the enemy target, the enemy getting caught of in it anyway (Lucy exploits this). She's even abandoned her wizard in the middle of a fight. She threatens Lucy and spanked her, meaning she's struck Lucy with an intent to harm for it. Yet she seems to face absolutely no consequences. And let's face it, if Lucy wasn't Made of Iron, Aquarius would have killed her by now. How is this possibly okay? (and Rule of Funny is not a good answer here)
    • The Celestial Spirit do sign a contract. Maybe Lucy got tricked into signing a bad contract that lets Aquarius injure but not kill her.
      • This makes sense as Lucy was probably quite young when she signed her contract with Aquarius. She may have been too overwhelmed by the mere fact of getting her dear deceased mother's celestial spirit to do any effective negotiating.
    • You answered your own question. Leo accidentally contributed to his master's death, but... Lucy's still alive. Aquarius might be banned as well if Lucy ever died because of her nonsense, but... she hasn't died yet.

Why do Dragons teach people Dragon Slayer magic in the first place?
  • Especially since it seems that Fire Dragon Slayer magic seems to meant to hunt down fire dragons, and Natsus 'father', a Fire Dragon, taught it to him.
    • I doubt that Fire Dragon-Slayer magic is used to hunt down fire dragons; rather, I would think that the people that know it, use it to hunt down other types of dragons. Maybe because having other types of human followers helps out a dragon in some untold manner, or maybe dragons have been geased to prevent them from fighting one another directly, and use mortals trained in powerful anti-dragon magics attack draconic enemies.
      • Except that Natsu would be all but immune to a fire dragons main attack, its fire breath. And considering that he can actually absorb fire and get stronger - in all aspects it seems - he is the prefect person to hunt down and kill a fire dragon.
      • Except fire dragons would, logically, also be able to absorb all of Natsu's fire attacks, rendering magic from either party useless.
    • Lampshaded in Chapter 1, actually. Lucy remarks on how odd it is that a dragon would choose to teach a human how to kill dragons, so Dragon Slayer/Interception magic was probably never intended for a human to learn. Further supported by the fact that almost all mages are surprised that Natsu can use it. If other mages didn't know it was possible, it must be an extremely uncommon thing.
      • It's an ancient (and assumed mostly dead) magic, so many mages probably either aren't aware of its existence or believe it's something forbidden. Urtear uses another ancient magic (the manipulation of time), which was also assumed to be extinct, and maybe forbidden. I think, essentially, the idea of all these arguments is that Mashima really needs to explain the Dragon Slayers.
    • As I saw it, Dragon Slayer magic wasn't specifically invented for slaying dragons - it was an extremely powerful brand of magic that could kill dragons, and hence got the name because of that. So it wasn't really Igneel purposefully handing Natsu to key to his own demise. Until we get the full story, though, who knows.
    • Also, as shown in later chapters (and somewhat in the early ones too), Dragon Slayer magic seems to give the mages Dragon-like powers, so perhaps this will ultimately transform such mages into dragons in the future? Also, I could make a bet with ya that the reason why the dragons disappeared is that 'cus they live on as the Dragon Slayers' magic, guardian spirits or something like that. Seriously, does it really seem to be so different from this?
  • The same question was asked on some forum that I saw, and someone came up with the idea that dragon slayers are actually dragons (or at least not human). The part where Natsu and Gajeel can't pass through the barrier might support this.
  • Am I the only one who sees a modicum of sense in only teaching magic that is, if it not deliberately designed to kill you, at least VERY good at it to people who have been specifically vetted to like dragons a lot?
  • I imagine that the original dragon slayers learned their magic themselves by imitating dragons rather than being taught by them. As for why 3 immensely powerful dragons have decided to adopt random kids and teach them magic normally used to kill dragons, it probably has something to do with Zeref and all the dragons dissappearing. The chapter where we saw Igneel has him saying something about how they have to trust the humans.
  • Dragon Slayer magic is taught to children raised by dragons. By doing that they insure the Dragon Slayers look at dragons as people and not vicious monsters. If they come across a truly evil dragon they destroy it.
  • Maybe the dragons just wanted their (adopted) children to know magic and thought them the only one they know. Dragon Slayer magic is supposed to imitate dragons so it kinda makes sense.
  • Rogue and Sting, the new Dragon Slayers from the Tournament Arc, killed the dragon who taught them Dragon Slayer magic. They're also Third Generation Dragon Slayers, meaning they were taught by actual dragons and have Slayer Lachrima in their bodies, so that might have something to do with them being able to do that in the first place.
  • According to Zirconis, the first Dragon Slayers were taught because the dragons who thought humans were people were losing their war against the dragons who thought humans were just talkative food, simultaneously making a pretty big point and changing the balance of power. Though that doesn't explain the five more recent examples.
    • Irene Belserion's backstory elaborates on this. The dragons are divided into two camps: One who wants to continue the status quo eating and dominating humans and one who wants to change it by coexisting with humans, with the latter camp losing ground. Irene invented Dragon Slayer Magic to give humans the powers of a dragon to turn the tide. And the rest is history...

Maybe I'm using Pokemon logic too much here, but Dragon Slayer magic is said to change the user's body constitution to that of a dragon when used. As the name implies, it's also said to be super effective against Dragons. So shouldn't using Dragon Slayer magic against another Dragon Slayer fuck them up more than normal magic would?
  • It does. Every time you see Dragon Slayers fight, they cause massively more damage to each other than compared to when they fight other kinds of mages. Take a look at the Natsu-Gajeel fight and compare it to pretty much any other fight Natsu gets into.

What about Igneel?
  • When we first met Natsu, he was wandering around, trying to find Igneel. Now, not only does he never go looking for him, he doesn't even talk about it. Does he just not care anymore, or were things just THAT boring before Lucy showed up?
    • Lucy is a hot piece of tail, besides I think this is one of those things where he is looking for him, while not fighting, i.e. off-panel. Or he is hoping to gather information while out on missions.
    • He needs to leads to follow. When we first saw him, Natsu was on a lead about a Salamander that didn't match his description. Presumably, he just hasn't heard anything about other Salamanders or Dragons since then.
    • Doesn't he bring it up when he fought Gazille? He still looking for Igneel. He just doesn't have a clue where to look.
      • He questioned Wendy about Grandine's disappearance too.
      • First thing he does when he sees Acnologica is scream at it to tell him where Igneel is.

Raijinshuu eyes.
  • What bugs me is that Bixlow mentions during his fight with Lucy and her stellar spirit Loki that all the members of the Raijinshuu have a secondary ability with their eyes, though Evergreen uses hers as a primary. So, what was Fried's eye ability? And does Evergreen have a secondary ability, or are her petrification gaze her only ability?
    • Evergreen had that exploding dust/needle thing. Fried's eye changed color whenever he used Yami no Ecriture (Dark Script)—his power that made it so if he wrote something on someone (like pain, death, demon, etc) it became true—so I guess that's what his eye power was supposed to be.
  • Orrrr...maybe it just hasn't been shown yet!

Slayer Lachryma in general piss me off.
  • If the Lachryma are supposed to be solid spells, and according to Cobra humans shouldn't be able to normally learn Dragon Slayer, how are they made in the first place? Not only that, but they cheapen the Dragon Slayer's awesomeness. It's like how everybody and their mother have a Sharingan in Naruto.
    • Slayer Lachryma is just a cheap knockoff of real Dragon Slayer magic (which Cobra claimed humans couldn't learn because he thought Dragons were extinct). And since both Luxus and Cobra ultimately lost to real Dragon Slayers the existence of Dragon Lachryma doesn't cheapen the Dragon Slayer magic at all. Kind of like how the existence of saccharine and Equal doesn't cheapen the awesomeness that is real sugar.
      • Except it took two real dragon slayers to beat Luxus (and "beat" is hardly the right word since their injuries were worse than his), and Cobra ultimately won that battle (Natsu was completely paralyzed by venom which was going to be fatal even if left alone; even if it took Cobra two days before he felt well enough to sit up, Natsu was gonna die and he wasn't), though only barely and he had help from the giant "snake" he was riding while Natsu only used Happy as a pair of wings. Luxus is the most powerful dragon slayer by a wide margin, the rest seem to be about even. Though it's possible they just shoved too much Lachryma into him.
      • I don't think Laxus or Cobra being stronger than Natsu was them having stronger Dragon Slayer power, I think it's just because they're stronger mages (more talented, more experienced, etc.). Also, it seems being an artificial Dragon Slayers only gives you any power when using Dragon Force, and judging from Natsu it seems a real Slayers version is much stronger.
      • Cobra "beat" Natsu only because he had his snake around to boost his powers at will. And in the manga, he puts up a less awesome fight. Laxus, on the other hand, is just more experienced, well-trained, and older. It's an adult Dragon Slayer beating up two runts, even if he's only an artificial Dragon Slayer.
      • I think it's also important to note here that the raw magic level in Laxus' body is ludicrously high compared to most people. Even if Natsu's potential power is higher, as of right now Laxus has probably the third highest amount of raw power in Fairy Tail(without doing something insane like eating Etherion), after Makarov and Gildarts fourth highest if you count Jellal now that he is fighting with Fairy Tail as Mystogan.
    • Dragon Lacrimas are extremely rare and expensive, which is why Laxus' father wanted it back from Laxus (brutal). Meaning that they are pretty much only slightly less rare than fostered Dragon Slayers themselves, since there are three Dragon Slayers without them and two with both Dragon Lacrimas and dragon foster parents. So, Dragon Lacrimas are not something you can just buy in a magic store and implant in your child automatically. You either have to pay a lot of money to buy one (most likely on a black market), or you would have to find one, which would be extremely hard.
  • The wiki explains it as being that the so-called “New Generation” Dragon Slayers automatically activate Dragon Force when they activate their Dragon Slayer powers. Which makes the lachryma-implanting sound just all the more unnatural, to be honest. They can’t use the basic powers without shooting straight up there and, presumably, using a crapload of their magic in the process.

Erza's fake eye. If it works as a normal eye, does it really makes sense that it isn't affect by magic that attacks one's sight?
  • We haven't really gotten the mechanics behind it to be honest, but I'm totally willing to buy that since the elderly forest woman made it, it doesn't work like a normal eye would. That it decreases the capabilities of magic that attacks sight was established before with the petrification gaze.
    • Here's a question about it: how did it see through Midnight's illusion when the "illusion" was not a magically generated phantasm but an actual projection of light, just one that was made using magic. Unless the fake eye sees on some sort of different wavelength than a regular one, it should still be seeing something since the thing was made of real light. The only way I could see this working is if the eye could somehow dis spell any magic that was affecting light, but given that the thing was still there, and Erza just saw through (although what the perspective of that panel was is debatable).
      • I'd again go with the assumption that the sight granted by the manufactured eye isn't the same as what's granted by a regular eye. We really haven't been given enough information to understand what is really going on with it, nor how exactly what's her name's petrification works either. So long as whatever the hell it does STAYS limited to magic that operates based on sight in some manner, I really can't see it getting too bad though.
      • Maybe she did see the illusion but it was semi-transparent to her. Her magic eye and her real one don't work the same so maybe she just saw the difference between the illusion light and the real light.
      • It seems that we are all assuming that it works just like a regular eye, but if it is a magical replacement instead of just a regrown organ, than why would it. It makes sense that mages would bypass the medical knowledge needed to make an exact eye replacement in favor of just putting a realistic glass eye that works like a crystal ball. Erza's eye would be something like that, instead of seeing using light and photoreceptors it has some magical sense that is interpreted as images when it get to her brain. Reguardless it is heavily implied that it works differently than a real eye, enough that midnight's illusion might not work.
      • It's also possible that Porlyusica, due to her hatred of humanity, just added extra protection to Erza's new eye so that she didn't come back.

I'm new to the manga (currently at vol.8), but what the hell is up with this gratuitous amount of Fanservice?
  • Once in a while is okay, since I'm a guy too, but seriously, almost once in every 5 pages or so is no. The worst offender got to be Erza. Her armors' designs are plain damn ridiculous.
    • Because Mr. Mashima really likes drawing fanservice.
    • Actually, Erza's normal armor is quite modest and practical. It's the magic armors—which she did not design, by the way—which are fanservice-y.

Love the series, love the art, love the characters, but the one thing that always confuses me is that if Fairy Tail members are prone to destroying private property and generally reeking havoc while doing their jobs, why do they still get so many requests? Sure they're powerful, but there're other guilds...
  • Recall most of the requests they actually get. Erase a book owned by a scumbag rich guy, crush one of the three main dark guilds in that alliance, destroy the freaking Moon. Sometimes people don't just want the job done, sometimes they want it done so well that it also happens to be done to anything also in the remote vicinity.
    • There're still other jobs that I wouldn't really trust Fairy Tail members with. One job once was to teach a bunch of little kids you really want a Fairy Tail member to corrupt your young?
      • YES.
      • The Galuna Island job wasn't for Fairy Tail specifically. It went to every guild in the country. They probably get a good number of requests that way. And a job like teaching little kids sounds like a local thing. Fairy Tail is the only guild in Magnolia, and the townspeople seem to turn an eye on their destructive tendencies. I could see them not thinking much about it.
  • The townspeople don't just turn a blind eye to the destruction caused by Fairy Tail, but seem to see them as some kind of well-loved celebrities.
    • And remember that the majority of property damage that Fairy Tail is blamed for is apparently mostly caused by Natsu.
    • Another point to consider is that while they do have a reputation they are also highly principled. You want to be certain the mages who come to help have good, honest intentions and will try their best? Fairy Tail.
    • In Magnolia's case, most of the damages are usually done by someone else, granted much of it wouldn't happen if Fairy Tail wasn't there.
  • Think about it: In the Fairy Tail world, magic exists and is a well-known thing, right? Then there must be hired mages that fix the towns and stuff with magic. Boom, no big deal.

I understand why Natsu can't eat his own fire (or rather that this wouldn't do him any good) as it's like trying to breath recycled air, but why can't he eat fire that he just started with his own fire? There would be more heat that he put in from whatever burning.
  • Same thing, still his fire.
  • My theory is that just like how a Dragon Slayer's constitution is changed to that of a dragon, the properties of the element that was eaten are changed as well, so while he can eat fire, he can't eat Dragon-Fire.
    • The whole POINT of dragon-slayer magic is he can eat dragon fire, just not his own. A more logical conclusion is a fire started with magic remains magical in nature, and Natsu cant eat his own magic.
    • It could be that in order to eat his own fire, he would have to make it, which would expend it. Maybe the fire expended would be equal to the fire gained, so it wouldn't help him. Like pouring water out of a bucket to fill that bucket.

If Happy is (kind of dark) blue, why do the manga pages shown him as white?
  • This seems to be an issue a lot of manga have, particularly so here as Gerard also has blue hair and is of a darker shade than Happy in the manga. Meh, best I can tell is that they simply choose what's easiest to use consistently with characters more central to the story and just roll with it. Worst case I've seen thus far is with Kishimoto's completely random choice of shadings for Red Hair and similar coloration's, with Garra and Roushi being outright white while he completely flipped it all the way around with Nagato and Karin by making it freaking black, so that for the longest time people thought their hair color actually was black until a color page of them was released.
    • This happens so often in shonen manga that I've just kind of mentally blocked colored images out of my mind. No need to look at the colored anime of Fairy Tail anyway since it's kind of horrendous.

If Natsu beat Gajeel, why is Gajeel an S-Rank mage but Natsu isn't? Yes, I know Natsu had Lucy/Sagittarius's help, but Natsu also just had another fight before this one.
  • Juvia is apparently an S-Rank mage too. Thus, what about Grey?
    • Gajeel is S-Rank? I don't remember that... Anyway Juvia is essentially invincible save for very select opponents, Grey being one of them. Her entire body is made of water, you can't physically damage her with anything. Grey won because firstly he could freeze her, and secondly because she fell in love with him and knocked herself unconscious. Really, it's mainly bad luck that she hasn't essentially been pwning everything since she joined, matching up with the worst possible opponents with abilities that bypass all her advantages.
      • There was a color-spread of all the members of Fairy Tail that also showed which ones were S-ranked members. That's how it is known that Gaeel and Juvia are S-ranked members. Of course now with the revelation of SS-Ranks and above, S-rank may no longer be as awe-inspiring.
    • Also remember that S-rank is solely a rank to show how powerful you are so much as it is 'your qualified to take on S-rank missions by yourself." Remember that initially, S-rank missions were solo missions, and then that changed, although you still need an S rank member with the group. In that case, Natsu is, for lack of a better term, far too idiotic to be S-rank yet. Remember, Gajeel is not only fairly powerful, but also quite capable of handling dangerous solo missions and generally keeping a slightly calm mindset, looking at how one of his current ongoing missions is infiltrating the dark guild that Luxus's father runs as a double agent. While Natsu is powerful, he doesn't have the leadership/judgment skills needed to be S-rank yet.
    • Gajeel isn't an S-rank mage, it's confirmed now since he complained he wasn't chosen for the exam. Though we don't know whether being S-rank in one guild would automatically give you the honor if you switch to another guild. The guilds might even have different systems for all we know.
      • Actually, he was an S-class mage back when he was in Phantom Lord. Same with Juvia and the rest of the Element 4. But when Gajeel and Juvia came over to Fairy Tail, that rank was taken from them, since they have yet to pass Fairy Tail's specific S-class exam. And also probably because they both started out as enemies. They had to prove themselves as being trustworthy first.
      • I think it is because Phantom Lords' S-Class is really only the equivalent of Fairy Tail's A-Class. None of the Element 4 or Gajeel were as strong as Erza, much less Laxus, Mystogan, or freaking Gildarts. Totomaru is strong almost like Natsu, being defeated by the latter (and later put K.O. from a stealthy attack by Elfman and Gray) once he gets around the problem of using his flame. Sol was defeated by full body takeover Elfman pretty easily. Juvia was more or less equal to Gray. Aria managed to sneak attack Makarov and was owning Natsu, but was easily defeated by a weakened Erza (Natsu was probably losing because a) fire is weak to air and b) he couldn't summon his real power). Gajeel was about equal to Natsu, and he was the strongest in the guild.
      • Pointed out during the Grand Magic Games. It really does just seem to be that Fairy Tail's S-Class is much harder to attain than the S-Class of some other guilds.
      • Fridge Brilliance on this. Guilds like Phantom Lord and Sabertooth are a lot more lax about their S-class qualifications because (presumably) they view S-class as a status symbol, like "my S-class wizards are so strong". Fairy Tail is the only Guild shown with an actual qualification exam, and the reason being is most likely because S-class wizards get the most difficult and deadly missions. Makarov, who views his members as family, doesn't want someone like Natsu rushing off on S-class missions and getting him killed unless he's absolutely certain that Natsu is cut out for it. Hence the reason why the only S-class wizards in Fairy Tail are Gildartz (probably even stronger than Makarov), Mystogan (who can use a strong enough magic to put the entire freaking guild to sleep), Laxus (who took the combined efforts of Natsu and Gajeel to defeat, and still ended up coming out of it in better shape than the two of them), Mirajane (who can turn into all sorts of overpowered demon transformations) and Erza, just... just Erza.

A common Running Gag of Lucy, or most defining trait?
  • Why does everybody treat Lucy like she is the one and only busty character in this show? I mean Fairy Tail is a World of Buxom after all, but everybody makes a huge deal about her breasts so much that other busty female characters are considered flat in comparison in-universe.

How does Fairy Tail make money?
  • Presumably they do, or they wouldn't be able to buy so much beer or rebuild their HQ so quickly. If they get funded by the Magic Council, where does the Magic Council get its money? It'd make most sense if the guild gets a cut of the reward for completing a job, but the characters have never factored the guild's cut in when they split up a reward and nobody's ever complained about the Natsu Gang's tendency to not accept rewards.
    • Regarding the quick rebuilding of the guild, one of the guild member profiles tells us that one of the members uses wood-based magic and she was essential to the reconstruction process. With the wood easily manipulated into the correct shape, a lot of time and labour could be saved. Also, if other members with different powers work together to do different things, they could save money on materials.
    • Also about the Council, I'm assuming that it's connected to the government, so likely it gets funding from taxes and whatnot. On the other hand, guilds may be funded by the local government, i.e. the cities/towns they reside in. Heck, for all we know, Fairy Tail could essentially be running on it's dormatories (if one assumes that there is a boys one like there is a girls one). It's never really specified except for a couple times just how much food and drink cost, so it might not even be all that expensive.
    • Possibly the guild factors its cut in before posting the reward, and asks for that sum as a deposit.
    • The guild doubles as a bar, don't forget. Natsu also mentioned once that he just pays to eat there rather than cook himself (meaning he probably just doesn't know how to light a match). Heavy drinkers like Cana are probably a huge part of the guild's income.
    • To be honest, I always assumed guilds had a membership fee or something similiar. Maybe getting a cut of the rewards offered in the requests. After all, a mage can only get official work while being employed by a guild. So, since they enable you to find work and act as a work broker, why shouldn't they charge a fee for the jobs they get you. That's pretty much how guilds worked back then and unions do these days.

  • Wasn't the bargain for being allowed to live was to always automatically come to Lucy's aid? Loki has shown that he doesn't even need to be summoned, and is implied that he has a gut instinct for whenever Lucy's in danger. So why did he send Virgo to Lucy's aid when he had a date? I'm sure he would've gladly canceled it in light of the circumstances...and the fact that it looks like she's about to be executed...
    • I think he didn't come because he couldn't. He was probably on a date in Magnolia... so he's stuck in the lacryma with everybody else. Virgo got the message, and since he still hasn't returned, she concluded he was still on his date (which is plausible, what with him being a Casanova and all).
      • I think it would be probable that Stellar/Celestial Spirits weren't affected by Anima, and if they were, they would presumably sense it(seeing as Horologium saved Lucy from Anima).

Does someone relatively important will die at one point?
  • Yes, it's a Shonen. Still, some of the characters got injured pretty bad and still come back. Makarov could have died two times already. Every little bit of what was once Gerard was destroyed at the end of the Tower of Paradise arc and he still came back. And Erza had made a pretty epic Heroic Sacrifice before Natsu saved her. Don't get me wrong, I like both Makarov and Gerard, and Erza is my favorite character by far, but if everyone is always saved (except Simon/Shimon) it will lose it's impact pretty fast.

Wendy's Burp Attack!
  • Okay, so a Dragon Slayer powers up or heals by 'eating' their element. Wendy's element is 'sky' or 'air'. Except she can't just breathe to power up... she has to 'eat' air. However, swallowing air is what leads to gastrointestinal bloating, leading to... burps and farts. So all ow Wendy's attacks as a Sky Dragon Slayer should be a variation on Fartillery. And yet we never see her so much as hiccuping, let alone the cruder burps and farts we'd expect.
    • That's like saying Natsu needs third degree burns on his intestines. It's just magic, for God's sake.
      • Actually, I was making a joke about the fact that Wendy's attacks would literally be burps, as they are "bursts of gas expelled rapidly from the lungs or stomach through the mouth". I wasn't seriously complaining. Take a chill pill, already. (On a side note, I find it amusing how worked up people get over some of the questions I post, since they seem to take it far more seriously than I do, yet complain about me taking it to seriously...) :P
      • Well therein lies the crux of your problems, kiddo. You're in the Headscratchers page. Take your act to the WMG if you want a better reception.
      • /clap

Gajeel's third nosebolt/piercing/whatever it is
  • Somewhere between the one-sided Laxus beatdown and the Harvest Festival clusterfuck he lost one of his nose things. What's up with that?

What is the legal drinking age in Fiore, if there is one? We have yet to see anyone object to a person drinking, no matter what their age, and though only certain people explicitly drink alcohol, it's implied that almost everyone does.
  • There actually is a canon answer to this! Though I can't be bothered to find it. At some point (maybe Kana's introduction or info sheet) it's mentioned that the legal drinking age is 15 (as I remember, don't quote me on that) and then Kana (or her info sheet) mentions that she'd been drinking for longer than that. If you really want to know for certain, the answer is in there, I just can't remember exactly where.

Fairy Tail Similarities to other characters NOT COPYING
  • Is it me, or does Gray seem like Ace from One Piece, since
    • Both are [walkingshirtlessscenes]
    • Have a brotherly relationship with The Hero
    • Very self-sacrifcing
    • Cool-headed personalities
  • I know Gray is supposed to be an expy of Musica from Rave, but there are just these similarities.
  • To stick to the comparison between the two series, Gildartz and Shanks would be the more obvious comparison. Red hair, known for being powerful even as far as their overpowered worlds go, missing an arm, mentor figures...
  • From another series for a change, the first thing I thought when I saw Kageyama was "hey, evil Shikamaru!" Same hairstyle, similar powerset only stronger (but with less Heart Is an Awesome Power potential)...
  • I don't know which came first, but Lucy's appearance in her blue and white outfit seems incredibly similar to Alexis / Asuka from Yu-Gi-Oh! GX.
  • It may just be me, but Jellal seems to bear a slight resemblance to Sieg Hart...

How does Urtear's green orb work?
  • I can understand that reversing time on the orb can mend it when it's shattered. But how does sending it into the future cause it to fly forward and attack someone? I'm progressing into the future at a rate of one second per second right now and so far have shown no inclination to fly around and attack people. Is she really using telekinesis and just lying to Natsu about her Time Arc magic?
    • I always saw her as launching the orb as an attack, target dodges it, she reverses the time of it, hit from behind for example. then again it could be some combination of telekinesis and chronokinesis.
  • Actually explained by Urtear as a sort of (non ad-absurdum) form of quantum superposition. She sends the orb into POSSIBLE futures, going as far as to duplicate it endlessly.

Mashima Hiro forgot how much time has passed in his story.
Lucy has been in the guild one year as of chapter 158, and the side stories are cannon they are mentioned in the regular stories some times, but in the latest chapter she has only been in the guild six months. Maybe it's just a translation issue but man this irks the hell outa me.
  • Even if the side stories are canon, they don't necessarily have to be shown when they normally happen in the timeline. It's simple, that particular side-story won't happen for 6 more months. Also, while some side stories are canon not all are, so there's that too.
  • AnachronicOrder is also how I viewed it, but what bugs me is that this side story includes Cana. If it's canon, it spoils the whole "Is Cana going to quit the guild or not?" suspense of the current S-Class exam arc, since she obviously didn't quit if she's still there six months later.
    • There was never any suspense. A few pages later, Mira reassures Lucy that Cana goes through that phase every year.
    • Since the end of the S-class arc sort of happened, and that omake is never actually mentioned in the main story, it's probably not canon.

What's Up With the Ten Great Holy/Saint Mages?
According to the various arc, there is pretty much a "top ten list" of mages - the biggest, strongest, and most skilled. The only ones speciffically named are Gerard (when he was still playing The Masquerade), Fairy Tail's guildmaster, and Phantom Lord's guildmaster. The last two, whose names I cannot recall, Seem to deserve their titles, both supposedly being nearly invincible when compared to other mages. However, other characters are shown to easily be just as strong if not stronger than at least two of these three.
  • These include: 1)Laxus, who is a freaking strong artificial dragon slayer, is is capable of using the legendary class spell fairy law. 2)Erza, who can withstand a blast from the building-destroying jupiter cannon, defeat the (relatively) powerful mage Aria, and give the Phantom Lord guy a bit of a challenge; she can also take a lot of punishment and still go toe-to-toe with Gerard, though he pretty much beats her. 3)Ur, who dukes it out with Deliora, though she cannot actually defeat it; Gerard even mentions that she could have gained a "Great Mage" title. 4)Gildartz; oh lord, Gildartz. He can destroy nearly any normal substance - and does so on a regular basis becose of his absent-mindedness - survives a surprize dragon attack, scares the crap out of Natsu even though he loses an arm, leg, and an unspecified organ in that attack, and Natsu thinks of merely pushing Gildartz back a few feet to be a major sign of progress.
  • Gereard, however, doesn't seem that strong - his most powerful attack is the Abyss Break spell, which any really skilled mage can use. All of the other guys could easily defeat Gerard in one-on-one combat; but are any of these guys in the top ten? Nope. What the heck is up with that?
    • Maybe it's not about strength, but skill? Also, I guess if you have a bad reputation, such as FT's tendency to cause property damage, you probably wouldn't be granted a title. Also, 1) Laxus was probably hiding his true strength, since he was planning to eventually take over Fairy Tail, 2) Erza withstanding the cannon and beating Aria wasn't much of a surprise (Aria seemed like a sneak attack kind of guy). Also, Jose was just playing around with Erza, though he does mentioned Erza would have made a formidable foe, and Gerard is just weird (seriously, his power level's all over the place), 3) Ur could have gotten the title, but we don't know enough about Ur's strength or skill, 4) Gildartz probably won't get a title seeing that he has a tendency to let his magic run wild, plus property damage.
    • It's not so much that Gerard's power is all over the place, it's that various circumstances were always playing against him. His first fight against Erza he had to deal with 1) His magic power split in half to sustain the psychic projection (which was apparently enough to get him into the Ten Wizard Saints at at least half of Jose's age, who Makarov had said was unusually skilled for his age) 2) Even with half power he couldn't go all-out against Erza since he needed her alive to be the sacrifice and he was buying time for Etherion to fire. Then Etherion fired and Gerard's power returned to full capacity and Natsu showed up. Gerard still couldn't go all out against him because 1) he couldn't risk destroying the tower, and 2) he did take a beating holding back against Erza. Then Gerard killed Simon and pushed Natsu's Berserk Button, and Natsu activated his Shonen Deus Ex Machina Eleventh Hour Super Mode and got taken completely by surprise. When he finally had enough and decided to destroy everything in sight, the injury Erza gave him conveniently acted up and Natsu took the opening. In the Oracion Seis arc Gerard had amnesia, which apparently still left him with enough magical knowledge to 1) offhandedly one-shot Natsu, 2) collapse the cliff Brain was standing on, and 3) place a spell on the entire Nirvana structure to destroy it. Midnight showed up after 1) Gerard had taken damage from the destruction spell he put on himself, 2) he still had amnesia, and 3) he probably let his own power get blasted back into his face. Is it Worfing if you Worf yourself? Even if it wasn't his own power, he still manages to 1) get up, 2) interrupt Natsu's fight against Zero, and 3) give Natsu enough power to make the Super Mode Natsu awakened against him look like a hiccup next to a hurricane. So yes, in my opinion Gerard definitely deserves the title "Wizard Saint".
    • Oh, and being officially the strongest doesn't necessarily mean they are.
    • While I agree that being a "Wizard Saint" means nothing (since it's stated that Erza has the potential to become one, but there are lots of mages that are stronger than her) and it's just a mere title, Jellal is definitely one of the most powerful mage in the series so far. At the age of 19 (he started learning magic since he was brainwashed, meaning for only 8 years), Jellal has mastered the most variety of spells so far: Telekinesis, flight, super speed/strength, nuke, clone, sealing, elemental spells (fire, Flame of Rebuke, Abyss,...), Darkness, Heavenly, etc. It's just that he has never had the chance to show his full power and is quite underrated . In the Tower Arc, he fought Erza, wounded, then curbtomped Natsu while still holding back A LOT to keep his tower, his attack again was blocked by Simon, then was interrupted by a stupid convenient wound before delivering the final blow. In the Nirvana arc, because having amnesia alone is not enough, he has spent most of his power trying to destroy Nirvana and also heavily wounded due to the Self Destruct on himself. The only hint of his true power is casting Abyss Break in 2s without any problems (which needs the Element 4 and Jose TONS of time to cast) and it's stated that the spell can destroy half of the Magnolia or the whole tower that the Council needed to use the Etherion to destroy. I'm kinda sure that Abyss can definitely kill Dragon Force Natsu, or else the author wouldn't need to bring up the wound to stop it, which again surpasses Zero (one of the 3 strongest Dark guild's master)'s ultimate spell Genesis Zero, and there is nothing proving that Abyss Break is his ultimate spell either....
  • Becoming a Ten Wizard Saint isn't all about power. It's probably a title awarded to people who are strong and do good things for other people with their magic, just like a Catholic Saint in Real Life. It's easy to see how Makarov and Jura got such titles, and Jose and Jellal/Siegrain probably did good things for people just so they themselves would look good (Jose because he is a vain, proud bastard, and Jellal for his plans). Erza, in her Near-Death Clairvoyance, was given the title in her dream for sacrificing her own life to stop the Tower of Heaven incident. So yeah, strength can't be the only requirement.

What's with the Stellar Spirit magic?
  • I mean, why is there a world where all creatures are supposed to work for humans? Maybe I missed something, but I really don't get why the spirits would become mage's tools in the first place.
    • Short answer: we don't really know why they're doing it. However, stellar spirits work for their mages as long as they abide by their respective contracts. So, essentially, they're kinda like hired mercenaries. Just don't know what the spirits gain in return.
      • Maybe they get energy, or whatever ki is called in that world?
    • Maybe they were created for the specific purpose of helping out humans?
    • I got the impression it was that if a mage is strong enough to summon them, the spirit would be impressed enough to allow a mage to form a contract with them. I don't think the spirit gets anything out of it other than the satisfaction of helping out someone who deserves their help. Of course, this isn't necessarily true, as Aquarius demonstrates: while Lucy may have been capable enough to summon her and form a contract, Aquarius just plain doesn't like Lucy, so while she is contractually obliged to turn up when summoned, that doesn't mean she won't end up taking her frustrations out on Lucy, and won't stop her from telling Lucy not to summon her next week because she's going away with her boyfriend (though I assume in that situation, Aquarius would come if called, but would not be happy in the slightest).
    • My guess is that spirits have some kind of long-standing friendship with some humans which goes far back into history. Considering Loki works for Lucy at least partly out of gratitude for saving his life. You could say the same about Aries. Also, Lucy "inherited" Capricorn from her mother. Also, it seems that the spirits would not just work for anyone who has the keys (The first villian threw away the keys saying they are of no use to him). It could also be that the humans are obliged to work for the spirit if need be. Think about the summoning in Naruto. The "reverse summoning" wasn't revealed until much later.

Why does Lucy never have enough money (other than Rule of Funny)? Her rent is less than the other girls and they seem to distribute the money from their jobs evenly.
  • Actually mentioned somewhere that most of her profits go to paying for Natsu's collateral damage during missions.
  • In that case, the same should happen to their own profits. Nobody ever mentioned that they take her money first, and judging by the way she usually acts, she would've complained about them getting more money in the end.
  • The recent special chapter implies that Natsu has fewer living expenses than most people.

Why does Lucy not learn a simple Fire Magic spell?
  • She is always teamed up with Natsu, and that would make him more powerful.
  • It would give people a suprise who manage to steal her keys, which seems to happen pretty often. All in all it seems like a wise thing to do even if it would require quite a bit of effort to learn one spell.
    • This can actually apply to most of the mages in this series; most tend to rely on one type of magic instead of being versatile in several. You can probably to chalk it up to the fact that if too many people have the same magic spells the fights would probably get more confusing, or more boring. Besides, Lucy has a good whip now.
    • There's also the fact that she just might not be good at it. In one of the omakes, Natsu was able to do a body perfect transformation of Lucy but she couldn't do one of him. Even Happy could do a partial transformation spell. Lucy probably isn't really good at any other spells besides those related to Celestial Magic.
  • She's lazy. That's all. She notes in the beginning that if she were to train, her spirits could even surpass Natsu (granted, even without training they're absurdly strong). IF. Meaning she doesn't even train her Stellar Spirit Magic.
    • Not quite. A bonus chapter has Lucy trying to learn other types of magic, and demonstrates that because she usually casts spells through items she struggles with magic that doesn't rely on tools.
  • For that matter, why doesn't anybody learn a few other types of magic (other than Natsu, who does not so much learn as absorb Thunder Magic)? The new villain shows up who laughs at Erza's equip? She pulls out a silver key and starts casting light spells. Etc. Because its the nature of the series, it makes the characters more distinct, and keeps them from being jacks of all spells.
    • Probably because it is easier to perfect one type of magic that you are already familiar with. Learning multiple types of magic would make person more versatile, but probably much weaker in a straight up fight, compared to simply perfecting the magic they already know (and any given type of magic is already quite versatile). So far, the only people who use multiple types of magic are basically magic genius level characters (Jellal, Makarov, Hades, August, Zeref). There are advantages in specialization.

Why does no one die?
  • I really don't understand when you have a bunch of super powered mages around, one who can make f*cking Ice Spears to impale people, another who can magically spawn swords and toss them at you and another who can literally set you on fire, yet nobody ever kicks the bucket. Hell, even the whole retcon of Lisanna's death ruined a ton of character development for Elfman and Mirajane. I understand this is a Shonen manga/anime, but so is Naruto and there are tons of people that have been Killed Off for Real.
    • So... are you seriously looking for a serious answer? Because there isn't really any real reason as to why no one dies. The author might simply prefer it that way. Heck, the whole reason Trinity Raven exists is because Mashima felt sorry for the guys who were supposed to go down.
    • I've always believed Simon's death was nothing more than a cheap way to subvert the trope considering Jellal, the one who killed him, ends up alive instead of him.
    • Well as Chapter 356 All the higher up council members are dead, Lahar included.

How many zodiacal keys exists?
I don't mean the 12/13 signs, but how many copies, I though they were pretty rare to see Lucy with so many of them already. And she started with most of them already.
  • I always assumed they were one-of-a-kind.
    • They are one of a kind. Lucy said herself there are only 12, but fans theorize that there may be a 13th, Ophiuchus.
  • Chapter 280 reveals that there are 13. Lucy's 10 keys (Aquarius, Taurus, Scorpio, Leo, Cancer, Aries, Gemini, Sagittarius, Capricorn and Virgo) and Yukino's 2 golden keys (Pisces and Libra) plus Ophiuchus, who Lucy states to have been mysterious and is said to be more powerful than the others.

No school system??
  • Lucy is first introduced as a 17-year-old. Surely in any country (excluding UK) 17 year-olds are still required to go to school. Granted, she may have been home tutored what with being a rich heiress but what about Wendy, who's 12?? Do mages not have the need to go to school like normal people?
    • Seeing as how no official school has ever been shown just yet...perhaps not. The story isn’t exactly clear on that.
    • Actually, most countries don't require 17 year olds to go to school. In America I believe you have to go till 16, not sure on Japan. The series seems to be sorta medieval anyways, it is possible that there are no schools, just guilds and apprenticeships. It is also possible that mage guilds, which seem to start teaching kids magic at a young age, also handle general education for their young mages like Wendy. As for Lucy, she is a runaway after all.
    • There's gotta be a school somewhere. How else would Gajeel have taken a job from one? It's probably just not that inforced.
    • Most children probably just learn a trade from their parents or a guild. In that way, you wouldn't need to go to school unless you're becoming a scholar in a particular field. And Wendy probably got a lot of her education from Grandeeney anyways.
    • A lot of shonen battle manga don't mention schools. This is obviously not Earth, and since mages can get jobs from guilds, an education was probably not considered necessary in this world. Who knows what the 90% normal people are doing. The general rule in fiction is that if it's never mentioned, it probably isn't an issue.
    • There does not seem to be one since Natsu, Gray, and Erza all ended up at a guild when they were children. They also stay that Natsu had to work for his food money when he was a child and no one really questioned it. So there is most likely not school system.
    • Shortly after he entered the guild, Gajeel took a mission in a magic school. Plus, after the time skip, Romeo confess to Natsu and others that he attended a fire magic class. So yes, there are school systems in FT world. But it also seems to be a feudalistic-like world. So going to school is probably not an obligation and apprenticeship may be an important part of youngs education (there are guilds for every type of work).

Lucy being a Celibate Hero
Is there any known reason over why she wants to avoid love as much as she has? Trivia says that her favorite type of guy is an assertive one, but (in an omake) she chose her friends over a possible romance.
  • I think it's more about Mashima not wanting to depict romance in the story, even if it goes against the characters.

Wendy's healing magic
She run's out of magical power quickly from using it to heal wounded characters... then why not eat some air and recover the power you just lost and go back to healing?
  • I figured it's not slayer magic. She can do roars and such like the other dragon slayers, but none of them can use support magic. My best guess it that Wendy is using two different types of magic, and eating air can only affect one type.
  • But she is a sky dragon slayer, her healing magic was described as sky magic. And even if it can only boost her sky attacks, it should still recover her magical power.
    • Sky Dragon Slayer magic just seems to be different. Wendy has never consumed the air as Natsu and Gajeel have to Fire and Metal. She has merely tasted the air and commented on what it tastes like.
      • The only problem with that argument is that she actually does eat air in order to acquire enough power for an offensive spell. Sky god slayers can heal too so it probably is tied into the dragon slayer magic. Not being able to charge it is probably a weird clause Mashima added in to keep her form being over powered, like how she can't heal herself.
  • On the same subject: Does Hiro Mashima just forget about Wendy's healing powers whenever it's convenient for the plot? In the Eclipse Cannon arc, Future Lucy takes a sword to the stomach and dies while Wendy is standing right there.
    • Obviously there are limits to what she can heal. Certain poisons, minor wounds caused from a fight, motion sickness? No problem. Sword through the chest, bane particle poisoning, other seriously critical wounds? Not so much. As for her eating air to restore her magic power so she can keep healing, well, just because she has magic power to keep casting spells doesn't mean it still doesn't exhaust her physically. You can have all the magic power in the world but you still need rest, to eat and sleep, and her healing spells also can't be used on herself to restore her own stamina.
      • There is evidence to support the stamina idea, in the brief bit of training we see Natsu and Co do before the Grand Magic Games shows that they were training their magic strength as well as their physical limits. Wendy isn't even in her teens yet, so she can't last as long as other wizards when using magic constantly.

Ultear's Backstory
Many of my problems with Fairy Tail fall in the "good idea, bad implementation" route, as i enjoy the series as a whole, but the plot holes could sink the Royal Navy. My case in point is a specific moment in Ultear's backstory where she escapes the Magical Research Facility, goes to see her mother, gets within sight of her, sees her with other children, then immediately loses all hope, starts hating Ul, and turns around to go submit to testing with her new life-goal of committing matricide. She was in sight of her mother! A simple spurt of rage and going "what the hell, mom?" would have called Ul's notice to her and fixed her entire life. The stranger part is it would have been easier to just have her captors show her images of Ul with Gray and Lyon and have Ultear reach those conclusions while in their care. It just... makes your brain hurt.
  • Is that all? well, I guess that anger makes you do stupid thing, and I know that from personal experience. I think that she was so angry and upset at seeing Ur/Ul with other two "sons" that she immediatly assumed the worse and decided to storm off.
  • I think you're asking too much from a small kid.
    • Maybe it's asking too much, but they didn't do a great job of explaining how "seeing mom training two kids" leads to "return to researchers who were torturing me so I can kill my mother". If I was in her position and saw the situation, I wouldn't even register the other kids, I would just be so happy to see my mom again I wouldn't even notice anything else.

Why doesn't Erza win every fight?
She's been shown on at least two occasions to be able to surround a target with innumerable swords and control the movement of any sword she summons. She should be able to turn any opponent into hamburger meat within 5 seconds, or at least bind them (hands and feet). No matter what the opponent's magic, every fight with her should be over in less than a minute. Other than Rule of Drama, why does she still have drawn out battles?
  • Because, as shown during the Fighting Festival Arc, she needs time and energy to summon weapons and fling them around. And there are plenty of opponents who can still counterattack this (like Midnight, to quote some) or can just outrun them and hit her. Summoning a very powerful weapon and attacking the opponent can be a better strategy, as it leaves him/her less time to prepare his own magic.

Send Zeref to Edolas
In Edolas it's been shown that a wizard can't use magic without the special pills, Zeref's been around for 400 years, he would know of Edolas' existence, would the spell on him be rendered null and void if he went to Edolas? If so, then that would have been an amazing solution to his. I kill everyone around me, stay away!" And, "kill all the humans!" Angst.
  • Might be that Edolas wouldn't affect Curses, especially, ones given by the Gods.
    • Exactly this. The reason Mavis died when Zeref and her consummated their relationship, is because the purpose of the curse is to punish, denying any happiness. Even though Mavis had the exact same curse, since she purposely allowed Zeref to love her more than vice versa, the curse decided to lower her immortality, to prevent Zeref attaining happiness, fulfilling the clause of the Curse. Also, the reason they are immortal in the first place, is because the curse is the will of the god, meaning dying would be akin to going against the will of the god, which is nigh absolute. The god in this case wills that the person be punished, so nothing can go against this.
      • Worth mentioning, that the reason Mavis died instead of Zeref, is because Mavis didn't offend the God of Life and Death, Ankhseram, but her Curse was an automated system caused by using the Law-category Magic without having mastered it 100%, whereas Zeref directly insulted Ankhseram by resurrecting Natsu, thus spitting on the very idea of the God of Life and Death; thus Zeref's Curse would have priority #1, compared to Mavis' Curse, which happens to anyone using Law without mastering it 100%.

    Other Part 2 
Why did Mystogan feel the need to hide his face
He looked like Jellal. Yeah, that's kind of a problem. It wasn't when he first showed up, though. He didn't bother to wear a mask around Wendy and really there's no reason he should have ever started. Makarov acted as though Mystogan was one of their veterans, and Jellal, no matter how skilled he was, could't have been much younger when he managed to convince people that he could totally hold a major political position. He probably hadn't even been a councilor for a year, so there's no reason Mystogan should have been worried about people thinking he looked like someone else until then-at which point everyone would have known anyway. Even if he was worried about the offhand chance of meeting someone who knew Jellal it's not hard to say "Oh, there's some guy who looks just like me? Wow. Weird." He couldn't have even hid himself for Erza's sake, since he'd have had no way of knowing about her relation to Jellal until after the tower incident since he threatened to kill everyone if she ever said a word about it. Really, the only way he could have known looking the same as Jellal would be a problem was if Erza saw him once and flipped out, but she didn't, because she had her moment of shock during Laxus's arc.
  • Mystogan didn't wear a mask around Wendy when he first met her because he was still a newcomer to Earthland and had no idea there was a parallel version of himself running around. Presumably, once he settled in and got to know Earthland a bit more, he figured it was a better idea to hide his identity just in case. We can assume that Porlyusica did the same once she first arrived in Earthland, and continued to do so until she found out her counterpart was a dragon, and thus had no physical resemblance to her.
    • That's the thing though. What 'just in case'? There's absolutely no harm in looking like someone else. He'd only have needed to bother if he knew Jellal was evil, and there's no way that he could have known. Jellal kept himself a secret (at least in the manga) until the Tower arc started.
      • I don't know about you, but if I ran into a completely identical version of myself - whether good or evil - I think that'd raise quite a lot of questions. Mystogan probably just wanted to avoid that.
      • He probably got to meet parallel versions of people he knew in Edolas, some maybe with enough diferences to make him think the "just in case my parallel turns out to be a psychopath or something"
      • He looks exactly like Jellal, yes. By that logic, he would have looked like Siegrain as well who is/was a famous wizard. Who wants to go outside being asked questions like "Wow, Siegrain! What are you doing here?" or "What's one of the Ten Great Wizard Saints doing a job for me?" Best idea was to completely hide your face.
      • Siegrain couldn't have been on the council for long, but Mystogan was indicated to have been a member for a while. By the time he knew about Siegrain everyone in the guild ought to have known what he looked like.
      • In the end, Mystogan decided to hide his face to prevent confusion. This was before he knew Jellal was evil or before Siegrain came to be. They weren't factors. He just eventually realized what Earthland was and disguised himself so that he would never be mistaked for Jellal, just in case. Maybe he felt he might be interfering in Jellal's life? Who knows. Seigrain showing up was an unexpected possible complication. And in the end Mystogan's crazy idea just in case, turned out to be a good idea since both Jellal became a wanted criminal.

God Slayer Magic
Last time I checked, "gods" were supposed to be positive (if sometime jerkass) entities. Then why the elemental God Slayer magic is colored black and always seems so... evil? Shouldn't it be, dunno, like Dragon Slayer but stronger?
  • Is it that strange? There have been plenty of times in fiction when the Gods have not been portrayed sympathetically. In mythology as well. Also, there have only been two god slayers so far, with one being Ax-Crazy and part of a dark guild, while the other has been revealed to good. So I wouldn't say God Slayer Magic is evil. it seems to depend on the user, though we'll need to see more of them first.
  • Alternatively, is dark because [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors darkness is required]] to harm a god. Who knows...

Ivan Dreyer's mother
And for that matter, Laxus' mother, will we ever find out what they were like? Are they even still alive?
  • It all depends if they're important (like Lucy's mother) or not (like Cana's mother).

If Dragon Slayers have such a good sense of smell, then why the hell didn't Natsu notice that Cana and Gildarts were related?
  • because smells don't work like that?
  • Really? I thought it was a proven study that animals could use smell to tell who their parents/children are. Can't they do the same for people?
  • yes because they already sniffed them and know the smell, each individual has a distinctive smell, that's why if you use a dog to search they'll find the specific person and not their relatives.
  • Besides, Cana probably doesn't smell like anything but booze.
  • They also have different types of magic, probably weren't raised in the same area, aren't living in the same area either, and being of different genders might play in this as well.

Lucy's reception
When Wendy joined the guild everyone crowded around her asking questions and throwing a huge party. When Lucy joined the most notice she got past Mirajane stamping her was a few men offering the new cutie a spot on their team. What's up with that?
  • To cheer Wendy up and make her feel welcome, the family and friends she knew most of her life just disappeared after all. Gajeel or Juvia didn't received a big party in their names either.

Laxus knowing about Mystogan
How did Laxus know Mystogan was from Edolas? This served no real purpose other than to make them fight (Which would have happened anyway) and was never even explained.
  • Laxus is Makarov's grandson, and probably had access to information he shouldn't have been able to see, whether Makarov knew this or not. This is probably also the reason why Ivan thought Laxus knew about Lumen Historie.
  • Laxus peeked on him in the shower.
    • I thought Laxus just knew he looked like Jellal? When Erza and Natsu came up, Laxus said something like, "Oh, you know him?"

Fighting Dark Guilds Is Illegal?
The Magic Council mentioned punishing Fairy Tail for fighting against another guild, the dark guild Oración Seis. After the time skip, Jellal mentions one of the reasons why his guild, Crime Sorcière, wouldn't become official guild was that the Magic Council forbids fights between other guilds, including dark guilds. The problem is that when they were first introduced, dark guilds were described as guilds NOT recognized by the Magic Council, so they shouldn't count when it comes to the no fighting other guilds rule.
  • The magic council has a problem with official guilds fighting dark guilds without permission, Fairy Tail fought a dark guild that was causing trouble, it was a mission, they didn't had a problem with the alliance fighting the oracion seis.
  • But they still brought up how it broke the treaty that forbids fights between guilds. And Jellal says right here, fights between official guilds are forbidden, even dark guilds. The point of dark guilds is that they aren't recognized by the Magic Council, they aren't official, so why should dark guilds be affected by the treaty as well?
    • In the link itself they explain why the council has to give permission to attack a dark guild, there's thread of retaliation, but this event still didn't get much strife as there was more of a debate of whether defeating the oracion seis was good or bad.
  • My understanding is that dark guilds are guilds which take on jobs that are forbidden by the council and will still operate when ordered to disband. Not being recognized at all makes them an independent guild, and the rule about not attacking guilds applying to dark guilds as well is likely due to the exact reason the council gives. They don't want dark guilds retaliating when they aren't sure that they can handle it.
  • Dark guilds don't listen to the council at all, not just what jobs they can take. In fact, they're pretty much labeled as criminal organizations. Which actually doesn't make them any different than an independent guild other than name, or at least not any different than Jellal's guild which doesn't listen to the council and is made up of two former members of a dark guild and an escaped convict.
    • except the dark guilds are also suppose to all be part of the ballam alliance, except for raven tail.
    • The Balam Alliance isn't actually the Dark Guilds, it's just the 3 strongest Dark Guilds who happen to control every other one out there. Dark Guilds are guilds that exist and continue to work but were never organised or recognised by the council.
  • Approved Guilds can't fight Dark Guilds for the same reason your parents told you to never hit first. If an approved guild attacks a dark guild, then there a going to a huge amount of guilds being left to rubble in retaliation and the council wouldn't feel any remorse since they attacked first. The Light Team that defeated Oracion Seis was organised by the council and was legit.
    • The light team wasn't organized by the magic council but by the Fiore guild masters, they also attacked the oracion seis first, which is the debate the council was having, because after all they did defeat one of the 3 major powers of the balam alliance who was going to attack the world (at least fiore).

Lucy's Memetic Badass Status
I get that its just there to be played for laughs, so that people will hear of "The Dreaded Lucy Heartfilia" and they can work in some jokes with it, but I'm just kinda confused as to how she got this when the people on her team are already famous and with known awesomeosity. Wouldn't it be more likely that people think she is just being carried by her more famous teammates (which to be honest she is for a long time)rather than the reverse?
  • Lucy's not that much of a Memetic Badass in-universe that she overshadows the others. Natsu and Erza, at least, are still way more well known than she is. Many people probably think she is a badass by association just by being on their team and not being Overshadowed by Awesome (as much as expected, anyway).
  • Oh no, I don't mean that she Overshadows them, just that I recall from early on a few gags where people saw her/ heard her name and went "Oh, Crap! it's Lucy Heartfilia!" I was thinking that logically while people must think she is badass from associating with Natsu and Erza, but she seems to get alot more credit than she is due. If you go back to the early episodes you will see what I mean, for example in episode five when Lucy is introducing herself to Erza, Erza says "Oh so you're Lucy. You're the one who defeated the guerrilla mercenaries with one finger, yes?" Obviously I know that it was meant for jokes, but it just kinda made me wonder how exactly she got that reputation. Story mutation or Chuck Norris Syndrome I guess.

Juvia's Water Body magic
  • So does she just surround herself in water, or does she actually become water? And if it is the latter, how does that even work? How do you make yourself into water?
    • She IS water, it's explained in her first appearance, and a few times since. Her body (and clothes) is composed entirely 100% of liquid water that she keeps in her form and colour. And as to the second question... long story short, A Wizard Did It. Asking how she makes herself into water while keeping her form and consciousness is about as useful as asking how Erza has a Hyper-Space Arsenal of weapons and armor that she can access at will, or how Natsu summons fire, or why Full-Body Take-Overs don't warp/ erase your personality when you use them. It's a show about magic, it doesn't have to make sense.
    • That does raise a couple questions, though. When she asks Gray to punish her for letting Zeref go: One, what is hitting her gonna do? The guy launched ice spears at her when they first met and she didn't bat an eye. And two, how did he not notice he was sitting on water in the anime?
    • Presumably she can use her magic to go back and forth, we see multiple times(although still not very much)that people can actually hit her, although that could just be the author/animators forgetting that it shouldn't work on her. Which means that while her default form may be water, or may be an actual body (hehe body of water) she can and does use her magic to go back and forth(perhaps unconsciously, as when she is taken by surprise her body may revert back to a normal humans). To answer the how Gray would punish her question, she would probably just make her body physical. And for the sitting question, it could be that she made the water in her body static(or have it static in the shape of bones, then just approximatly as dense as human flesh, and hold it in shape with her will), then it would have no give, and thus you wouldn't sink through it.
      • So in other words, Juvia's a logia user? Makes sense to me.
      • Juvia seems to be a sentient mass of water that molds herself into her usual form. She might even be able to shape shift that form, as she can at the very least shorten and lengthen her hair seemingly at will.
      • She can change her form to a certain extent, she is definitely able to create clothing with water (there is mention that her clothes are also made of water somewhere, can't exactly remember where)and we know she is also able to dissolve her body into an amorphous water.... being as she is shown doing that multiple times, so general shape shifting is a definite possibility, although the extent is not known. On your other point though, I think it more likely that she is just a human who has a very strong affinity with water magic and uses that to change her body into water, or else she would just return to water form whenever she didn't put mana into maintaining the transformation(such as when she is unconscious) however we have seen that this is not the case.
      • How on Earth did Juvia manage to break her leg on Tenrou island in that case?
    • She probably consciously chooses when she is physically water. Like when a fight starts, maybe Juvia just goes, "Water Body, On!" at the start to protect herself.

Lucy's whip.
  • When you look at it, Lucy's choice of weapon seems Awesome, but Impractical at best (see the pothole); there is no logical reason for the weapon besides being a fetish (and Lucy is otherwise pretty damn far from being The Dominatrix). One could surmise it's meant for controlling her summons... except Lucy would never do something like that, and the Celestial Spirits are smart and loyal enough for it to not work that way. We know Lucy can use it very effectively, but seriously, if you're going to take the time to become proficient at a secondary weapon so as to not be entirely reliant on Summon Magic... why not a weapon that doesn't suck?
    • Lucy could learn a couple of attack spells, such as, as someone pointed out above, a fire spell to serve the dual purpose of attacking and powering Natsu up.
    • If we assume dual specialization in magic is impossible (almost every mage specializes in a single type of magic, suggesting it's too hard to learn multiple types), she could have still chosen a much better weapon to spend time and energy training. How about a dagger? She's small and fast...
      • Well dual specialization is far from impossible, take for example Jellal, who specializes in Heavenly Body Magic, but also knows Four Elemental Magics(Fire, Earth, Water, Air, we only see him using fire but he needs all four for Abyss Break so...), Telekinesis, Darkness Magic and Staff Magic, not counting the various other random spells he can do, such as Abyss Break, Self-Destruction spell or Astral Projection. Although Jellal is presented pretty blatantly as being a Broken Ace, and it may be too hard for Lucy, or she is just too lazy to do it at all (remember at the start of the series she makes a remark about her spirits' powers relative to Natsu that strongly implies she doesn't even really train in Celestial Spirit Magic).
      • It seems like mages can use more than one type of magic (Jellal as mentioned can use many, Ultear has both her time magic and ice magic, Makarov has used more than just his giant magic, and the Orlaesian Seis all returned during the Time Key arc with a new type of magic each. Heck even Duke Everlue had 2 types and he was a terrible wizard), but there seems to be one type that they are naturally affiniated to, and they tend to mostly rely on that. When Erza's magic first activated it took control of all nearby weapons and tools (meaning weapon magic is her affinity) while Juvia had her magic making it rain long before she trained as a mage etc. Even Jellal mostly relies on his Star magic most of the time. This isn't always the case, though as Gray apparantly just ran into Ul as his teacher and she just happened to know ice magic so that's what she taught him. It also seems to be herediary. Lucy's mother was a celestial wizard and so was Lucy, Macao was a fire magic and so was Romeo. At any rate Lucy does have a 2nd magic style. Urano Metria, which is Star magic like Jellal. If she can pull off one of the strongest ones she should certainly be able to use the weaker ones.
      • I'd like to point out that Urano Metria and Celestial Magics fall under the same category, in a sense, as they utilize the concept of Constellations (Celestial Wizards use the Zodiac Constellations, and Urano Metria utilizes 88 Constellations); one could also add that Heavenly Body Magic is also another sub-type of Celestial Object-type Magic (because all 3 utilize either stars or various other Celestial Object groupings (stuff like meteorites, black holes etc))
    • Well whips aren't all that great on a battlefield, but they are GREAT psychological weapons, and she may have it so she can get her opponents to flinch to give her time to summon a spirit, not to mention it has a pretty big range to people would naturally be wary of it, also giving her the time to summon a spirit.
      • Also more useful in a combo attack than a bladed weapon would be, now that I think about it. She could tie up her opponent with it, or otherwise strike at them without blocking her spirit helper(s), thanks to her longer range as compared to a sword or dagger.
  • I think her using a whip, aside from catering to fetishes, is a symbolic thing that shows she's kind of a "beast tamer." Rydia from Final Fantasy IV is a Summoner who uses the same weapon, but she doesn't use it to control her summons. Might even be a Shout-Out, for all we know.

Erza's Unlimited Wardrobe of magical armours.
I'm not buying it. So Erza can requip between several mundane weapons. Fair enough. She has the unique ability to requip her armour. Fine. She can also use this ability to change between several outfits. Cool. But being able to Ass Pull a magical armour to fit any situation? Something doesn't add up here. We've established on the introduction of Requip magic that it's just that - re-equipping yourself from a Hyperspace Arsenal. She has to have physically obtained everything in it. So where the fuck did all the armour-for-any-occasion come from?! It's not any common armour, we know that for sure. Magic had to have been involved in its creation, and at least one specific armour is noted as unique, the Purgatory Armour ("Nobody who has seen this armour has lived to tell the tale!"). What Erza's doing is almost like running around with ten Excaliburs in your pocket. Making it even more egregious is the fact that she's only a little older than Gray (and Natsu, but there's the Really 700 Years Old theory around him that I don't want to go into) based on flashbacks.
  • Magical weapons have been seen before, the other universe even had to resort to it exclusively. Given that Erza takes on S class missions, she has the means to acquire rare materials and also the money, all the needs is a good magical blacksmith and there you go.
  • It's been noted before that she custom orders her armors from a specific organization that specializes in making them(I can't remember the name of the company off the top of my head), so the reason she has so many specialized and varied armors is that she makes ridiculous amounts of money on her quests, then uses that to order a new armor set(s) that counter any problem she has had/thinks she may encounter and over time has just accrued a ridiculous number of armors that fit any sort of situation. If she needs speed she has one for that, and she probably got it after encountering an opponent much faster than her, if she needs one that makes her stronger against fire(which she has very likely encountered a lot of, not to mention it's a common magic for wizards) she has one. She has a lightning one after seeing how strong Laxus or some other lighting based wizard/creature is, so on and so forth. At this point she just has one to suit almost any situation. Also as noted above, if any of her armors require specific items to create them that the armorers don't have on hand, as an S class wizard she has the means to go get them.
  • They also aren't unlimited. Erza has a specific number she can take with her at all times and has to pick and choose which she might or might not need for any mission. Her limit is unknown, but she's never used more than I think 5 or so at a time.
    • Are you sure she has a limit on her Hammerspace? If she does it must be ridiculously high because she carries around 200 distinct weapons(shown in the Fighting Festival arc)at least, and during her fight with Azuma on Tenroujima she used more than five armor sets, and regretted that she couldn't use Fairy Armor because it was still being repaired from Edolas, and was about to use the seduction armor. Not to mention that she carries around her entire wardrobe in her Hammerspace, and uses it to change clothing. And don't even get me started on how many different armors and weapons she used/combined when she did Pandemonium in the Grand Magic Games. Erza may be a Cloudcuckoolander but she isn't stupid, she would make sure she had all her armor before she started putting in clothing like pajamas which she uses (presumably) regularly, let alone ones she probably gets to use once or twice a year like her ballroom getup. Thus even if she has a limit, it's clearly so high as to not be an issue. Although I do agree with your point that they aren't unlimited and the reason she seems to always have one to suit the situation has already been addressed.
  • The Movie reveals exactly how she archives her gear into Hammerspace - a magic computer screen appears in front of her and she adds the weapon/clothing/armor to her "memory"!
    • While interesting, that isn't really germane to the discussion here. Unless there is also an indication as to how many armors and/or weapons she can fit in there, or something to do with the original post.
      • Though somewhat unrelated, I'd just like to point out that requip isn't that unique of a magic, IIRC, Bisca from the guild can requip her guns just like Erza can requip her weapons. That being said it is mentioned that she admires how fast erza can requip, implyin that erza is very skilled at that magic.
      • O...kay? Not that you are wrong, but I just can't see how that is at all relevant to this Headscratcher.
      • I brought it up because it can explain how she can hold so many different types of armor and weapons. All she has to do is "remember" them and have the magical power to store it all.
  • Erza does have a limit; in the bonus chapter "Welcome to Fairy Hills", it shows us that she rents five dorm rooms at once to store all her different armors.
    • To me, it would be more valuable to have multiple weapons than multiple armors. At most she has the capacity to hold ALL her weapons and roughly 15-20 armors. Some armors she leaves in her vault space as 'presets' (Fire Empress, Black Wing, Flight etc), but she switches out the last 3-5 or so depending on how she anticipates a particular mission might run. She uses her first presets to gauge her opponent's fighting ability and switches her armor to one that could handle it. Everyone who has played RPG games know that many times you can have too many skills for your hot-key assignments - Erza has the same problem so she changes the skill set according to the mission. It only makes sense. Of course there are a few armors that there is no way they could have been placed there ahead of time without her prior knowledge. I can only assume that she can pull out a particular armor from her stash if she concentrates hard enough.

  • Judging by how Rufus' Memory Make magic seems to work, and assuming he's memorized Minerva's spatial magic...could he travel or send objects through time if he memorized Ultear's Arc of Time?
    • Probably not. Ultear's Arc of Time only lets her "fast forward" or "rewind" an object, not send it through time, and Rufus wouldn't be able to use it on himself since Arc of Time does not work on humans - other than her Second Origin release spell.
    • True, but Rufus' magic isn't straight copying of another's magic. He uses it as a base for his molding. For example, he memorized Orga's God Slayer magic, but rather than shooting lightning from his hands like Orga does, he calls it down from the sky. This seems to be because he doesn't memorize specifics about the magic, just the basic points as he simply calls Gray and Orga's magic Ice and Lightning magic as opposed to Ice Make or Lightning God Slayer magic. So it's possible that he may simply see Ur's magic as simply Time Magic, without certain limitations.
  • Another question: If his power is based on memorizing what he sees, what if he remembers something wrongly? Say he fought someone like Racer, whose magic appears to be Speed but is actually slowing. Would he memorize it as Speed Magic, Slowing Magic or not at all? Or if he fought Rustyrose, who first appears to have transformation/materialization/summoning abilities, but is actually a Reality Warper? Without that being explained what would Rufus even get from the guy?
    • It might be based purely on what he sees and perceives the magic as. If he only saw Rustyrose producing glasses with his Reality Warper powers, then Rufus might only be able to create glasses too (or combine it with some other magic for a different effect).
Fiore is apparently feudalistic
  • in an early chapter Lucy says that most of Fiore still adheres to the feudal system, yet when the characters interact with townspeople and others minor characters ,most of them appear to be middle class. In a feudal system the middle class are almost nonexistent. In feudalism, the closest thing to middle class would be the merchant class, which we do see, but almost everyone seems to be middle class and not serfs as they should be in a feudalistic society. Also, the wealthy in the series are never nobility as most wealthy are in feudal societies. Lucy's father may have went bankrupt, but his name should have carried weight given that he was upper class/nobility. Anyone else have any thoughts on this matter?
    • When does Lucy ever say it is feudalistic?
    • In Chapter 8 Lucy says "some parts of the land still run under feudalism."

Gray's Ice Magic
How exactly do you make bow and arrows out of ice? How can you give ice enough elasticity to fling arrows off them? The bazooka can barely make sense if you transmute a frozen form of an explosive substance. But even that would be a stretch(excuse the pun).
  • Spiral power. Sort of. Gray's ice make magic is relatively normal compared to Lyon's ice animals and Ultear's ice flowers. It's not about ice, actually, make magic transforms wizard's magic power to material objects according to their personality, so they can do whatever they can imagine.
    • Which makes his anger at being defeated by Rufus all the more appropriate. Ice Make magic requires creativity to come up with new things, and is an extension of the user's own personality and mind, whereas Memory Make is just using spells you've seen before. The whole thing might even be Mashima making a stealthy Take That! at plagiarism, especially when Gray ends up defeating him in the final event.

  • What was Leo doing during "Naval Battle" of the Grand Magic Games? Lucy was getting the crap beaten out of her, and the opponent wasn't even trying to win, they were just doing it For the Evulz. It was established early on that Leo can see what's going on in the human world, and force his way into it, even if Lucy doesn't have her keys. So what gives?
    • Well it is a competition based on wizard's skill. Loke coming out might have been considered a breach of the rules. If the beatdown was too serious, the competition would have to be stopped entirely.
      • OP here. Afraid I don't believe that Leo/Loke would have let something like a competition rule stop him from trying to protect Lucy. Besides, how would he be in violation of the rules if he came out? Sure, Lucy didn't summon him, but he's still there under her power, and a part of her magic repertoire, and all he has to do is explain that he can forcibly get into the human world thanks to his bond with Lucy.
      • Well, Loke is a member of Fairy Tail. Arguably, this could count as member interrupting a battle on purpose. What would Loke say after he saves Lucy? "Sorry, the other competitor was being too violent, I had to stop it"? That's not really a fair reason.
      • Leo/Loke's also a Celestial Spirit that Lucy can summon. By that merit alone, he and all of her other spirits should have the right to enter the arena, even if he's officially a member of the guild, otherwise Lucy wouldn't be able to fight with them. It wouldn't be the same as say, Natsu deciding to jump in, as he's another mage. And also, didn't Leo/Loke quit the guild in chapter 72?
      • Loke still has his guild mark as of the Tenrou Island arc. He still counts as a member. What's the difference between Natsu showing up to help Lucy and Loke doing the same? If Loke comes out on his own, he's come out with his own intentions, not his owner's intentions.
      • OP again. I explained the difference between Natsu and Loke intervening in my last post. As a Celestial Spirit, Loke should have the right to enter the arena if Lucy's in it. Whatever guild he's part of shouldn't really matter. Natsu on the other hand, as another mage/competitor, shouldn't.
    • In order to break in to human world both Leo and Horologrum must use Lucy's magical power, so, to avoid unnesessary energy waste, they come to rescue only in case of grave threat to Lucy or her friends, which was the case later in the fight against the Order of Hungry Wolves, but was NOT in Naval Battle, since, despite the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Minerva gave to Lucy, she wouldn't risk having her guild expelled from the Games (or worse) for murder just to have a moment of revenge on Fairy Tail.
      • The magic power issue shouldn't have be too much of a problem after Lucy unlocked her second origin. And even if Minerva wasn't trying to KILL Lucy, we only know this because we've seen her in other parts of the story, where she makes her motivations for the stuff she does clear. Leo doesn't have the luxury of that knowledge, so he wouldn't know that. And this is just my opinion, but even if she was going to leave Lucy alive, Minerva could have easily crippled her for good, so she's still in very real danger.
    • Maybe Leo/Loke can't swim very well?
      • If we take Animal Motifs into account, that does seem plausible. Though it does seem hard to believe that that would stop Leo/Loke trying to save the girl he claims to love.
    • Maybe Lucy specifically had a talk with him beforehand to avoid this—she knows he's prone to show up to save her when he thinks she's threatened, and she doesn't want to rely on a Leo ex Machina to save her when it's a competition. Bad sportsmanship and all.
    • It seems (the impression to me, anyway) that Loke can cross over in two ways. The first is if he's summoned by Lucy using her Key, in which case he'll use her magical power to support his presence. In that sense, he could have entered the arena, but she'd have to call him with a Key that Minerva had stolen. The second way he can cross over is if he opens his own gate himself, but if he does that then he's relying on his own power and wouldn't be counted as summoned by Lucy (since he plainly wouldn't have been), ergo it would most probably default to "outside interference" - and if Loke comes through himself without being summoned, he may also have had to deal with the fact that he's still technically part of Fairy Tail and so not only would it be outside interference, it would be outside interference from Fairy Tail. Basically, the only way he could have come through to help is if he's using Lucy's power, which can't happen if she doesn't have her keys.

Zeref and Mavis
A minor one, but in the ending of chapter 340, we saw a scene where Mavis confronted Zeref. Zeref mentions that he can't see or hear Mavis, though he can feel her presence. So how did they manage to communicate if that is so?
  • He was anticipating her answers, which he was doing so correctly. It wasn't as if they were actually communicating, it's just that he knew what she was going to say to him - he knows her that well. He knew she was there so he carried on as if he was holding a real conversation with her.
  • If you just read Zeref's side of the conversation, he's not even explicitly responding to the things that Mavis is saying. He's just talking because he feels her presence and knows that she's listening.

Something I noticed about Zeref's Death Magic
When he has those random Death Magic explosions, everything around him is reduced a barren wasteland full of dessicated, shriveled trees and grass-less, dried-out soil. However, when he kills a person (or animal, in the case of those wolves) with it, they're left perfectly intact (just usually dead with their eyes open and most likely an expression of fear), without being reduced to, say, a skeleton, or heaven forbid, a rotting, bloated corpse. It's not really important, just a minor inconsistency that might suggest that Death Magic attacks the souls of animals, rather than the bodies of plants.
  • Plants presumably don't have souls, so the only way to kill one is to damage its body beyond the point of recovery. The same would probably apply to completely non-intelligent animals (think insects, coral, starfish, etc.), fungi, bacteria, and so on—a mushroom or a fly or something along those lines would end up shriveled, too. The dried-out soil is the same thing taken even further; since it's not even technically "alive" in the first place, death magic just saps the moisture and nutrients from it so it can't support the growth of any new life. Creatures with any amount of intelligence, though, presumably all have souls and so can be killed just by removing their soul.
    • Might also be related to a victim strength and physical distance to Zeref.

What is up with God Slayers?
From what the story tells us, God Slayers are capable of killing Gods and their magic is stronger than that of Dragon Slayers. Dragon Slayers also can't eat their magic, but the other way around is possible. Now the God Slayers haven't had an impressive showing. Zancrow was beating Natsu for most of the fight, but the moment Natsu (with a stupid explanation) becomes capable of eating his black flames, the fight quickly ends. Chelia and Wendy are established as equal in power. Lighting God Slayer Orga is one shot by Jura, while "mere" Dragon Slayer Laxus is able to beat him. And if the magic can really kill Gods, Dragons should be no problem, yet it's just as ineffective as anything else barring Dragon Slayer Magic. So God Slayer Magic's credibility has gone from "slaying Gods" to "black elemental magic that requires some effort for Dragon Slayers to eat". It's also pretty annoying how little the history of God Slayer Magic has been elaborated on. I'm really not seeing how it's supposed to be special.
  • And now as of Chapter 353, we have Devil Slayer Magic, which is designed to kill demons, and apparently works fairly well against dragons, too.
  • To me, God Slayer magic just looks like extremely powerful magic that is said to be able to kill gods. All along we've assumed that Zancrow, Chelia, and Orga had gods teach them the magic but it seems they were taught other ways (Zancrow from Hades and Chelia from extremely rare magic books, as shown in her guild card). Presumably the three of them aren't at their highest level of power yet.
  • The only one who was really disappointing was Orga, who decided it would be a good idea to attack people who were significantly stronger than he was. Natsu won by an ass pull that thankfully hasn't been repeated within the story. Chelia had the advantage most of the fight. She is still pretty young, so there is a good chance she hasn't reached her full potential. Orga was just sad and like most of the fights in the final was designed to give the win Fairy Tail regardless of how plausible it was. The actual Dragon Slayers couldn't kill the dragons they fought, which was noted by Mavis. The God Slayers not killing dragons isn't that much a stretch.
  • It could be that God Slayer magic is meant to be a kind of ultimate elemental magic. It tops and is able to consume all other magics of that element. However, it is probably focused on power and nothing else, and that doesn't work on dragons. Notice how a punch from Makarov, one of the strongest wizards in existence, did nothing to a dragon. Dragon Slayer magic may have specific properties that lets the user hurt dragons, and dragons may be similar enough to demons to let Devil Slayer magic hurt them.

Future Lucy's Celestial Keys
  • Where we're Future Lucy's Gate Keys? when Future rogue killed her why didn't Horologium or Loki come out and save her?
    • The keys would have been used to power the gate that allows for time travel (its name escapes me), so she wouldn't have been able to retrieve them once she entered the gate to go back to the present.
    • It could be that she couldn't summon anymore. Mirajane and Elfman are both precedents. After a traumatic experience, their magical power plummeted, though it was mostly psychological in origin. In theory, Future Lucy would have had her silver keys still, though only Horologium could be useful here as a protective spirit since without her golden keys (which would have been used with the Eclipse Gate and therefore would stay there) she has little-to-no combat ability. It's also possible that, since the gate is powered by Celestial Spirits, no keys can pass through it, but that's entering WMG territory.

Is The Bureau of Magical Development Open to the General Public
can any mage go there to learn magic or is it specifically exclusive to whoever appointed them

Why do all of the Dragon Slayers (sans Gajeel) have Exceeds?
I mean, the Edolas arc actually tried to explain this with the whole "the Exceeds were sent to Earthland to kill the Dragon Slayers" thing, but then at the end of the arc it was revealed that it was all a load of bull and that was never the case. Do the dragon slayers all just like cats?
  • Just concidence likely. Only 5 slayers have Exceeds. Cobra and Laxus for example don't. Gajeel actively searched for one, and Pantherlily is a full grown Exceed and not one of the eggs sent to Earthland. So of all the eggs only 4 of them ended up with dragonslayers. I believe Lector and Frosh weren't even with their partners before hatching like Happy and Carla were, they just ran into Sting and Rogue after already being grown so only 2 of the eggs ended up in the hands of Dragonslayers. Come to think of it was it ever confirmed they were from the eggs or were they citizens of Edolas that was warped over with the rest of the Exceeds, then ran into Sting and Rogue during the timeskip?
    • Sting and Rogue probably also tried having exceeds to be more like Natsu and Gajeel, since at that point all of the dragonslayers of Fairy Tail had one.
    • It seems that at least Frosch was one of the eggs sent to Earthland, since it's stated at one point that he grew up believing he was a frog. Don't think that would be the case if he grew up in Edolas with an Exceed family.

How old is Hades?
He was old when Makorav was in his twenties, and now Makorav is in his eighties. How is Hades even alive, let alone able to fight off team Natsu and Makarov? Was it the heart?
  • Yes, it was the heart. It's not clear when exactly he discovered the magic to make it work, but based on how he looks it must have been at most a decade after leaving Fairy Tail. The way it seemed to operate was by holding his body in a kind of stasis: no matter how much magic he used, he always had the same amount(which is slightly different than providing him infinite magic: if it did that, he would simply take a basic spell and ramp it up to etherion levels, but he clearly had an upper limit of power output at a given time), no matter how much force he was hit with he never actually took damage and presumably stopped his body from aging, no matter how much time passed. As far as his actual age... well, do the math, he would have to be at least 60-70, depending on how old Makarov was when we saw the flashback, plus however many years he had lived up to that point, which is probably safe to assume 70+, so call it minimum 130, but as much as say, 160, assuming normal(if slightly longer than average) human lifespan. We also don't know if there are other magics he may have been using to extend his life before even leaving Fairy Tail, so for all we know he could have been 100+ when Makarov was born. Since Zeref disappeared 400 years ago, and his stated objective was bringing him back, there is no reason not to believe he was simply hiding his goals during his time with Fairy tail and could possibly be just as old as Zeref is. Though I do find that unlikely, and would stick to my original estimate of 130-160.

Why is Erza Fairy Tail's strongest wizzard?
I know she is stong and everything, but she is just 17! She hasn't go in many missions to gain this title!

Tenrou Island or Sirius Island?
The official dub of the anime calls it Tenrou Island, but Wikipedia calls it Sirius Island. Which name is used in the official Kodansha USA manga translation?
  • Never mind. Kodansha uses Sirius Island.

Jellal's face... thing.
Seriously, what is that? Is it a tattoo? A magic seal? A birthmark? He's had it since he was a child, so it's not something that the cult of Zeref put on him. And if it is a tattoo or a magic sign or whatever, why does Mystogan have it too?
  • Probably just a nod to Sieghart. Everyone in the town that Sieg lived in had an crest of some sort on their face.