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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#129526: Feb 11th 2019 at 7:16:18 AM

Regarding the Final Fantasy!Cid profile here; is it better to post it in this thread?

Captain Alex's GUAG Special Crimes Division and the GUAE Groups page are in progress. Please help update them.


No-[tup]s Mode

Where in the House of Narrative should I put A2 for Not What It Looks Like?

'YoRHa Attacker No. 2, Goddess of Misinterpreted Situations (A2, Number Two)

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A2 in the third act 
  • Intermediate Goddess
  • Symbol:
  • Alignment: Chaotic Neutral, with leanings to Chaotic Good
  • Portfolio: Anti-Hero, Actually Tehnically Naked, Jerk with a Heart of Gold , Berserk Mode Increases Speed And Attack In Exchange For HP Drain, Became A Cynic Due To Surviving What Was Actually A Suicide Mission, Super Prototype, Former Wide-Eyed Idealist, Possesses Kainé's Recorded Memories, Taunts With Words Rather Than Pod Flashlights Which Boosts Her And Her Foes' Attack, Important Haircut, Tritagonist, Mercy Kill On 2B, Mutual Kill With 9S
  • Domain(s): Androids, Cynicism, Berserk,
  • Allies: Most of Liberion Arcadia
  • Rivals:
  • Enemies: Dr. Gero, Cybermen, Soundwave, The Vex, Samaritan, SHODAN, Love Machine, Dr. Nefarious, Gigan, Omega, Freddy Fazbear, Sentinel, Sombra, Sigma, Vile, Lumine, Copy X, Ultron, the Infested, the Corpus, the Grand United Alliance of Machines
  • Special Relationship: 2B and 9S
  • Opposes: Nier
  • A2 has been in the Pantheon for a while now, it's just that it was in a secret storage area that had been reserved for her and 9S when 2B first ascended, and in stasis until a trope could be found for her.
    • And at long last, one was found: Not What It Looks Like. The reason is because it was one of these that fueled her entire conflict with 9S; he arrived just in time to see her kill 2B, unaware that she had already succumbed to the Logic Virus and A2 was granting her a Mercy Kill.
    • With that handled, her temple was quickly assembled, her body was moved there and awakened, and word spread. Naturally, 9S was among the first on the scene and he and A2 started clashing swords. Shortly after that, 2B arrived and defused the situation.
    9S: Why are you protecting her?! She killed you!
    2B: I asked her to kill me!
    9S: (stops and sputters) W-w-what?
    2B: By the time I reached her, I was already infected by the Logic Virus, and was in its advanced stages. It was already too late to save me, even for you, and I didn't want to hurt you or anyone else.
    A2: I just happened to be in the area, and was the only one who can listen to her words. I'm still not sure why I heeded her request, though.
    • Really, the blame should go to Pods 042 and 153 as they were already in correspondence by then and could've at least attempted to clarify the situation rather than simply try (and fail) to keep the two apart as long as they could.
    • In the end, A2 felt that things have gone too bitter for her to stick around with the two of them too much, but at least they can encounter one another again without it becoming an incident, especially since YoRHa's purpose and lies are rendered moot with the existence of humans in the Pantheon. By extension, because of this, she has no plans to join Liberion Arcadia (despite their invitation), and she prefers to go solo.
  • Part of her ascension package was her own Pod to allow for the use of the Pod Programs that 042 and 153 possess. Unlike those two however, this Pod has no personality chip and is silent. That is all right with A2, since it was only through 2B's last request that she didn't trash Pod 042 despite getting irritated with him so many times.
  • At first, A2 had been nominated for Cynicism Catalyst, given her past in YoRHa and their betrayal of her and her team, but the Court of the Gods already had another in mind, and her backstory isn't openly known, which counted against A2's legibility.
  • She sometimes wonders what would've happened differently if it had been 9S who reached her first and asked to be slain, and 2B who witnessed it. What would have changed? Nothing, most likely. Either she defeats them, gets the Pods to take them to safety and A2 dies for different reasons, or both die by the other android's doing.
  • Despite not being a member of Liberion Arcadia, she still gets involved with them whenever one of their enemies goes after her; the Vex, Corpus, Sigma, the Cybermen… any enemy of humanity is an enemy of hers.
  • Has some hacking capabilities, though it's only through her Pod, and naturally nowhere near as good as that of a Scanner such as 9S.

Castle Oblivion, Holy Seat of Card Game-Based Combat Systems (C.O., The Land of Departure)

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  • Potential Category:
  • [tup]s:
  • Symbol: a card from its domain
  • Theme: The 13th Floor
  • Alignment: True Neutral, Lawful Evil under Organization XIII's occupation
  • Portfolio: Alien Geometries, Bigger on the Inside, Malevolent Architecture, Creating Construsts Out of Memory Including Living Beings, Laser-Guided Amnesia Even On Written Records, Unexpected Gameplay Change, Mostly White Void Rooms
  • Domain(s): Castles, Memories, Cards
  • Sacred To: Aqua (its creator), Ventus (its protected inhabitant)
  • Known Visitors/Tenants: Sora, Donald Duck, Goofy, Riku, Mickey Mouse, "Ansem", Lea (as Axel)
  • Unholy To:
  • Notes about your chosen dominion

  • It is not known whether the card-based combat system really was from the castle, or part of Naminé's powers, but for this version in the Pantheon, especially since the original has since turned back into the Land of Departure, it will be the former.
  • Given it was Naminé who was responsible rather than the castle, no one has to worry about losing their memories while inside it.
  • With the exception of Aqua, all who are inside Castle Oblivion have most of their abilities (magic, items, summons, and even weapon attacks) constrained by the rules of the Castle, the only exception being one's means of locomotion (running, slithering, flight, levitation, etc.), though teleportation might get nerfed into a card if it's followed up by an attack. This restriction applies even to Greater Gods, so long as they can fit through the doors.
    • Battle parties might end up with most of its members turning into Friend Cards, with only the party leader being the main combatant (and user of the Friend Cards). That's how it goes for parties of at least three, but it's not known just how big a party will have to rely on their singular leader, or if the Castle will allow for in-field allies proportional to the party's size.
    • Advanced techniques get locked into Sleights, which require "stocking" cards together in specific arrangements.
  • That said, there are some things Castle Oblivion has yet to factor:
  • Being a replica of the castle, measures have been made for such
    • Mêlée à Trois battles carry on like any other battle in the castle.
    • Mons-users deploy their Mon, who is then bound by the castle's rules while the tamer is to remain uninvolved except for switching Mons. If the Mon-user is also a fighter, their Mons are stuck as Friend Cards.
    • Card players become strictly bound to their game's rules with no breaking of them.
    • Support Party Members are forcibly barred from directly intervening in battle and (besides providing intel) are only allowed to provide their support when their leader uses their Friend Card.
  • Given just how many kinds of folks are in the Pantheon, Castle Oblivion has special rules in store for certain deities:
    • Multi-Persona-users (e.g. Tatsuya and co., and Wild Cards) can only use one Persona at a time per battle, which can only come out in response to the use of certain Magic or Attack cards, and Sleights with Friend Cards determine what skill they or their Personas can use.
    • Stand Users more or less fall under the same restrictions as Persona-users.
    • -something about Sakura and her Sakura Cards-

  • Also as a carry-over from the original, Castle Oblivion is a confusing place to navigate, and those without teleportation abilities are limited to the White Rooms that can be converted by way of World cards crafted out of a visitor's memories in the form of World Cards, as well as the Entrance/Exit Halls and stairways that connect them. There are two ends to this navigable area, one being a dead end in Basement Twelve and the other being the top floor, which js themed around the castle itself and has a path leading to a room with Memory Pods.

[down][tup] for the new trope of Xehanort's Heartless. Speaking of Ansem, do you think there's a trope he (the original) can take? Maybe something to do with his identity being stolen?

Edited by nightelf37 on Feb 11th 2019 at 11:53:31 PM

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database
yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chronicle Magician
#129527: Feb 11th 2019 at 7:45:22 AM

[up] There's Impersonation Paradox. He actually has the distinction of being on both sides of the trope. He impersonates Ansem SoD to interact with Riku in Chain of Memories, despite the fact that Riku still had him inside his heart. Then in Kingdom Hearts 2, Riku impersonates Ansem SoD, who was impersonating Ansem the Wise, while interacting with DiZ, who actually was Ansem the Wise.


So, like I said, Ansem, Seeker of Darkness might not be the best representative for his trope anymore. Might I suggest giving him Late-Arrival Spoiler? The twist that he's not really Ansem and just masquerading as the real Ansem is a major spoiler of Kingdom Hearts 2, but has since become required knowledge to understand the later games since then.

Edited by yugi195 on Feb 11th 2019 at 10:19:35 AM

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wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#129528: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:08:52 AM

@Rmpdc: Why are you giving a trope to an object?

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
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#129529: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:14:31 AM

[up][up]I checked Impersonation Paradox, and your claim for Ansem seems to be a little dubious, interesting though it may be.

Oh, and [tup] for the other Ansem's new trope.

Edited by nightelf37 on Feb 12th 2019 at 1:15:03 AM

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#129530: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:15:40 AM

What does Ansem currently have? We did contest his trope before and maybe it wasn't the best in the long run

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#129532: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:26:23 AM

[up][up] Right now it's As Long as There Is Evil.

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#129533: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:33:13 AM

Projectile Webbing's just gone up. I first thought that Spider-Man might be a good fit, but it also occurred to me that he's already got two roles as the god of Spider-Sense and Hero with Bad Publicity, so I wonder if adding a third spot might not be overdoing it.

Thoughts? Is three roles for one person a tad much? Alternatively, are there other candidates that might fit the trope?

Edited by Theriocephalus on Feb 11th 2019 at 11:33:50 AM

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#129534: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:35:36 AM

[up]Giving a god with three tropes is largely discouraged. Sometimes, even god with two tropes is a bit discouraged if the trope has potential candidates.

Honestly, with Spiderman, from what I know about him, I feel Danger Sense suit him in a long term. I don't know about the latter in regards to him.

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#129535: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:44:36 AM

[up][up] Why no pick any other of the spiderman-like characters? I feel there is enough room to pick someone that isn't Peter.

So guys, maybe we need to do some cleanup and curating of the Treasures to see what stays and what leaves. Some suggestions, like that gun before, are a bit too generic and boring to consider treasure worthy.

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yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#129536: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:51:49 AM

[up] I'm up for cleaning the Treasures. The first thing I've come up with that might not be good for the pantheon is The Art of War. How do we feel about that? It's a real-life piece of literature that, unlike The Neverending Story, has no fictional equivalent.

Edited by yugi195 on Feb 11th 2019 at 11:54:29 AM

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#129537: Feb 11th 2019 at 10:03:26 AM

I mean you can get dime a dozen weapons from any Arms dealers in the Pantheon. But i agree the Treasure should house important or dangerous Items. Also, maybe remove items that would logically be on a person own hand. Unless we are ok with replicas

Mvs@ Maybe Spider-Girl?

Its funny, there's a lot of tropes that could easily fit a person since they would be the triumph example. Like Superman and Batman.

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#129538: Feb 11th 2019 at 10:09:29 AM

[up][up] I don't have any problem having the Art of War considered it's a commonly referenced book in fiction

[up] I don't know, do the ascended Belmonts always have their own version of Vampire Killer?

First i checked Armory. Removed Onyx blade since it was barren and i have spotted a few iffy profiles. Arm Cannon and Chainsaw are embodiments of two tropes being Arm Cannon and Chainsaw Good. Should we keep those?

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#129539: Feb 11th 2019 at 10:14:10 AM

[up] I mean, Shakespeare plays are referenced in works all the time, too. Does that mean we should have Hamlet as a treasure?

Edited by yugi195 on Feb 11th 2019 at 12:26:49 PM

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#129540: Feb 11th 2019 at 10:23:56 AM

[up] It's totally doable apparently. Maximum Security has more books like The King in Yellow for some reasons.

That place also has a bit of things that are sentient and we have agreed that if you are sentient or sapient then you aren't allowed in Treasures. Index Librorum Prohibitorum is a huge outlier and i'm a bit iffy on the Life Fibers and Star Dream.

Also Vampire Killer is shown twice.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Feb 11th 2019 at 3:24:23 PM

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#129541: Feb 11th 2019 at 10:28:30 AM

[up] How about Diplomacy? Real board game, no innate magical qualities outside the pantheon.
The sentience rule does have some grey areas. Is the Master Sword no good because it's actually Fi, who is sentient? I imagine there are other examples similar to that.

Edited by yugi195 on Feb 11th 2019 at 12:31:50 PM

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#129542: Feb 11th 2019 at 10:38:54 AM

This guy goes up later today.

Barathrum, God of Knockback (Spirit Breaker, Space Cow, Bashlord)

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  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: Barathrum's flail.
  • Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
  • Portfolio: Cycle of Hurting, Epic Flail, Nether Strike, Charge of Darkness, Aform You Are Comfortable With, Horned Humanoid, Lightning Bruiser, Minotaur-like Beast, Noun Verber, Primal Stance, Super-Persistent Predator, Super-Speed
  • Domains: Travel, Combat, War, Chaos, Darkness
  • Allies: Rain, The Prince of Persia, Aladdin, The Doomslayer, Hidetora Tojo
  • Rivals: The Champions of Runeterra, Jago, Shulk, Christian Cage, Baine Bloodhoof
  • Opposed by: Simon Belmont
  • It was a normal day in the Pantheon when Razzil Darkbrew was experimenting with a small selection of chemicals that was provided to him by fellow gods, until someone reported an angry bull charging directly at Razzil's position, knocking bystanders away. Razzil and his ogre friend was confused, until they remembered that a certain dire hero was still charging at them when their last battle ended. Though they fled, the bull caught up to them and repeatedly stunned and bashed them until they fell off the nearby cliff. The alchemist and his ogre survived the nasty fall, but it was clear to the Defenders of the Ancients who the attacker was. It was the Spirit Breaker, who had charged across entire planes and dimensions just to get back at the Alchemist for beating him in the aforementioned battle.
  • There are few things that can keep up with the Spirit Breaker while he's charging. One of them is Rubick if he steals his charge, another is Bloodseeker when he smells enough blood... and yet another is a homing missile.
    • The good news is just about any obstacle in the way of his path can knock him out of his charge. It is advised that if chased by Spirit Breaker that you should lay out as many objects in his path as possible to stop the charge.
  • Yes, he does indeed look like a cow. This shape was made during the time he was considered a Tauren in a previous game. While he made some changes afterwards, he maintained some of his original design as a bull still fit the nature of a charging elemental.
    • This also does not mean that he is chummy with Baine Bloodhoof, God of Minotaurs. When Baine first met him, Barathrum was only interested in a test of strength. When Baine managed to overcome the other's strength, he only received an acknowledgement of his skills before the Tauren left. Baine is much friendlier to hang around than the brash and chaotic Spirit Breaker. This does not mean the elemental wouldn't call for his aid when he is in the mood for some trampling.
  • Fighting game deities in general have both revered and feared his mechanic. Some use it to extend their combos while others use this at the sole means to win games. It is with that reason that many of their ilk were glad to see him ascend.
  • Rain turned Knockback into an art fort. His Roundhouse Kick are capable of launching people across to the other side of the screen. He was honored to have someone with similar talents in the Pantheon.
  • Jago used to be the God of Combos, but his main specialty was to prevent knockback with the Combo Breaker. Once he lost the former title, his knockback stoppint abilities became a bane for combos. As such, Spirit Breaker maintains a beef with the warrior.
  • The Prince used Knockback as a way to get around certain enemies who were in the way of his Wall Run. Of course it can go both ways as even the slightest pushback can leave a ledge out of reach.
    • Likewise with Aladdin in regards to SNES Game. In this case, knockback helped him gain full control of his movements to the point that some players would do so on purpose in order to complete a level.
  • The Doomslayer was one of the earliest implementers of the mechanic in regards to shooter games. The One-Man Army had to learn just how powerful each gun of his was as well as the effect on each enemy as their weight affected how far they were pushed back.
  • Shulk has a rather mixed reception for the deity. While he can use this to defeat enemies much faster, they can do the same to him. Thus is especially annoying in boss fights as boss characters are immune to knockback.
  • Simon Belmont was not a fan of the creature's return. Many a campaign of his were ruined when face with Medusa Heads when bottomless pits were behind him.
  • There are reports that he serves a yet to be revealed master in the background. There has been speculation as to who this person or being might be. It could very well be someone who has already ascended in the Pantheon or one who is letting Spirit Breaker test the waters before making an appearance.
  • Hidetora Tojo was pleased to bring over one of his potential followers into the Pantheon... even though Spirit Breaker has no time for the battle between good and evil. The Unskilled but Strong God has been advised not to pet Spirit Breaker lest he sees it as and insult and chases him to the end of days.
  • Christian is pretty much the opposite; His pronounced technical skill in combat is hindered by his poor strength. Spirit Breaker decided to test the wrestler in a cat and mouse chase. Christian was able to avoid the elemental long enough for his partner Edge to save him.
  • "I'll break their spirits and their backs."

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#129543: Feb 11th 2019 at 10:48:34 AM

Yugi@ Fi already ascended. I think my first treasury was the Witchblade which is a living being. Sad there's no way to bring in the current host.

yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#129544: Feb 11th 2019 at 10:53:55 AM

[up] My point was that the Master Sword is Fi, and Fi is sentient. If Fi wasn't in the pantheon, would the Master Sword still be good for the Treasures? I'm sure there are other treasures that are similar.


The Idiot Ball should probably be removed, even though I think it's hilarious.

Edited by yugi195 on Feb 11th 2019 at 12:57:15 PM

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nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
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#129545: Feb 11th 2019 at 11:00:08 AM

Most items under Narrative Device will have to go. Including the Omniscient Morality License.

Speaking of the Idiot Ball, what trope can Wheatley ascend for?

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#129546: Feb 11th 2019 at 11:06:10 AM

[up] I've considered using the Sugar Bowl as a treasure for the MacGuffin. We could try finding other items in fiction representing various narrative devices to replace the generic ones already in Narrative Device.
As for Wheatley, Feigning Intelligence might be good.

Edited by yugi195 on Feb 11th 2019 at 1:22:18 PM

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#129547: Feb 11th 2019 at 11:25:05 AM

[up][up] Either Know-Nothing Know-It-All or Ignorant of Their Own Ignorance is my guess, assuming they're not taken or reserved.

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#129548: Feb 11th 2019 at 11:27:23 AM

While Index definitely needs to be to booted out of the treasures, should the same happen to Life Fibers and Star Dream?

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yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#129549: Feb 11th 2019 at 11:38:48 AM

[up] Both seem to be too self-aware to not be considered sentient.

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#129550: Feb 11th 2019 at 11:43:56 AM

I believe there needs to be a certain amount pf Life Fibers to be truly alive.


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