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There can be multiple levels of a dick move. Level one is something minor and insignificant (i.e: Like throwing someone's external HD into the bathtub). Level two is something like that asshole in charge of the Titanic who let it sink, and level three is on par with 9/11.

Some argue that the Holocaust was a Level 4 dick move, but others argue that it was just plain a shitty thing to do.

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    Anime and Manga 
Among thousands of comrades and ten thousand enemies, only you... only you... only you made me forget my dream. I sacrifice.
Griffith, Berserk

Hah! Moron?! Tell me who the real moron is here, because I don't think it's me! I prefer to use that term for someone who falls for a cheap trick like this! [transforms into Maes Hughes' wife] Ha ha! You should see your face! Oh, you're not gonna believe this, but that was the same look on Hughes' face when I shot him! The utter shock, the dumb confusion! You could see every emotion he felt as his own wife shot him! It was GREAT!

Earlier, I saw nobility and resolve that was hardened like a diamond, shining in your eyes. But you've fallen. Now you're just a piece of shit.
Bruno Bucciarati to Pesci, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo

    Comic Books 
Lizard: I feel strange. What's that feeling?
Spider-Man: It's called shame. You killed a child. Get used to it.

    Fan Works 
You know you've gone too far when even the voices in your head are asking you to stop.
This post on Spacebattles about Alexei Stukovnote .

You sons of bitches. Do you realize that what you've done is unforgivable? I hope you're pleased with yourselves you fucking animals!
Unnamed Minister, Arby 'n' the Chief, "In Memorium"

    Films — Live-Action 
Ivan Korshunov: I know what you're thinking, First Lady, you want me dead. Well, it may come to that. In a war, people die.
Grace Marshall: This isn't war! You just murdered an unarmed woman!
Ivan Korshunov: You who murdered a hundred thousand Iraqis to save a nickel on a gallon of gas are going to lecture me on the rules of war? Don't!

This Colonel guy? He's wacko, man! He's worse than crazy. He's evil. It's fuckin' pagan idolatry. Look around you. Shit! He's loco... I ain't afraid of all them fuckin' skulls and altars and shit. I used to think if I died in an evil place, then my soul wouldn't be able to make it to Heaven. But now? Fuck! I mean, I don't care where it goes, as long as it ain't here. So whaddya wanna do? I'll kill the fuck.
Chef, Apocalypse Now

Reaper: It was his first mission!
Sarge: And it's not gonna be my last.

There's a line you cross, you don't never come back from. Point of no return. Dave crossed it. I'm here with him. That means I'm going along for the ride, the whole ride. All the way to the end of the line, wherever that is.
Carlito, Carlito's Way

Beat cop: You think there's been others?
Det. Will Dormer: No, but there's gonna be. This guy crossed the line...and he didn't even blink. You don't come back from that.

This is the life we chose, the life we lead. And there is only one guarantee: none of us will see heaven.
John Rooney, Road to Perdition

Do you ever feel evil?
Jacob, A Simple Plan

Niles: I don't know my way home.
David: That's okay. Neither do I.

There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of men bad enough for such treachery. Down with Saruman!
Treebeard, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

    Live-Action TV 
President Clark has violated the Earth Alliance Constitution by dissolving the Senate, declaring martial law, and personally ordering the bombing of civilian targets on the Mars Colony. He is personally responsible for the deaths of hundreds of innocent people!
John Sheridan, Babylon 5, "Severed Dreams"

May the gods have mercy on you, Theon Greyjoy, for you are well and truly lost.
Ser Rodrik Cassel, Game of Thrones

There isn't anything you could say that would make me feel sorry for you.
McCoy, chewing out a Pedophile Priest in Law & Order

If you open that box... there will be no redemption for you, no redemption. Ever.
Lionel Luthor, Smallville, "Descent"

I'm falling and I can't turn back

I am in blood
Stepped in so far that should I wade no more,
Returning were as tedious as go o'er.
Macbeth, Act III, Scene 4

    Video Games 
You taught me that Justice is a contract. Once broken, it can never be mended. You sacrificed so much to preserve the innocent, but to the guilty, you offered no mercy. I loved my mother, and I never wanted to hurt her. But with what she did to us, she gave up the right to exist.
Eleanor Lamb, if the player chose to Pay Evil unto Evil, BioShock 2

Lilith: What kind of person would do this to their own daughter?
Roland: The kind of guy who deserves to die.

Tarkus: I had hoped you might see the reason of my actions.
Avitus: You are beyond hope, Tarkus!
Tarkus: Yes... I suppose I am.
Dawn of War II: Chaos Rising

This is not a time for mourning, this is a time to dry our tears and draw our weapons! There can be no pity for the pitiless! Save redemption for those that seek it!
Brother Malachi the Healer, Diablo III, following the death of Deckard Cain at Maghda's hands.

That's why I should quit this journey. Before I do something terrible. But I am going... he destroyed my hometown five years ago, killed Aeris and and is now trying to destroy the Planet. I'll never forgive... Sephiroth.

The darkness in their hearts overtook them.
Aqua commenting on Lady Tremaine and her daughters following their being killed by the Unversed they summoned to kill Cinderella, Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep

Once you've fallen that far, there's almost no coming back.
Riku, after Frollo explains his plan to use the Wargoyle Dream Eater to pass judgment onto the Gypsies, Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance

What kind of whackjob waterboards Chip 'n Dale? That makes Guyliner here like, the most uncoolest dude ever!
Juliet Starling, in response to the previous screen, which lists one of Zed's influences as "torturing small animals." Lollipop Chainsaw

Betrayer... Akachi wore that title unfairly. You, however, have earned it!
Safiya, Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, after the Player Character chooses to become a soul-devouring deity

As an academic, I must confess that the history of the dark arts intrigues me. But to put them into practice? This is truly beyond the pale!

Blackwatch cornered him at Penn Station. With his back to the wall, he unleashed the virus on Manhattan. What Mercer did is beyond forgiveness.
The Blacklight Virus, [PROTOTYPE]

Lord Galcian, so many innocent people died by your hand. Women and children... bled to death in the streets... as an Admiral in the Armada, I feel that I am responsible for their deaths... as much as you are.
Belleza, Skies of Arcadia

Sly: But she [Jing King] doesn't want to marry you!
General Tsao: She's a woman, she doesn't know up from down. Once I "convinced" her father to take up meditation, she was ripe for the picking.
Sly: I've faced a lot of bad men in my time, but you sir, are the worst.

You are about to cross a terrible threshold, Krom'gar. May the Earth Mother have mercy on your soul.
High Chieftain Cliffwalker, to Overlord Krom'gar before he blows up a Night Elf settlement, World of Warcraft

We are past the point of peace. Past hope for their redemption. The only mercy we have left to offer the black flight is the oblivion that they so passionately pursue.
Lirastraza, "Blackout" quest description, World of Warcraft

The Lich King demands too much! Tirion Fordring deserves more than a life of anguish and undeath!
Know this, Deathlord... I will obey your will, but there will be no redemption for what we are about to do.
The Silver Hand will never hand Tirion to us. The path to the Fourth Horseman will be soaked in righteous blood!
Blood that will stain our hands forever.
Your will be done, Deathlord. I will begin the preparations to invade Light's Hope. If this is what it takes to save our world, so be it!
Highlord Darion Mograine, "The Fourth Horseman" quest description, World of Warcraft

I will never forgive what he's done.
Dunban, on Mumkhar, Xenoblade Chronicles

if we're really won't come back.
Sans after tricking a Genocide run player into lowering their guard and then killing them, Undertale

    Visual Novels 
That is why I cannot forgive the culprit. Not that murderers ever deserved it, but him killing one of our close friends was absolutely unforgivable!
Tsurugi Kinjo, Danganronpa Another

    Web Animation 
"You've gone too far this time, Carl!"
"What's that? It's hard to hear you over the sound of melting city!"

Qrow: Running away was one thing, but this? You've crossed the line.
Raven: Sorry, brother. Sometimes family disappoints you like that.
Raven: Were we ever?
Qrow: I thought so. But I guess I was wrong.

Sam tried to apologize. I'll give him credit for seeming sincere. But I warned him that he crossed a line that was extremely difficult and doubtful I could ever forgive. I promptly returned the ring and we officially broke up.

So therefore, you're just going to continue following me and doing whatever I order you to do. Because as long as you're loyal to me, I'll let you pretend this never happened. We'll just go about our daily business, and you can hide from the horrifying truth of what you've become — namely, a murderer who just killed his own baby brother in cold blood. And hey, we can both pretend that you don't really have any options about any of the despicable actions I ask you to take from here on out — rather than acknowledging that, like Right-Eye, you do in fact have a choice. But unlike Right-Eye there, you're too chickenshit to ever make it. You'll obey me forever now, because I give you an excuse for your inexcusable behaviour.
Xykon, The Order of the Stick: Start of Darkness

[A] person is almost always forgivable... 'Almost' being the key word here. But you have passed that point of no return now, and I will never forgive you for what you've done here tonight. Trying to kill an innocent person out of greed... You are incapable of redemption.
Mitch Marks, Suicide for Hire

    Western Animation 
She smiled... I was choking... she looked straight at me, and she smiled. That woman is evil personified...
Darwin Watterson, on Margaret Robinson, The Amazing World of Gumball

I always knew the Fire Lord was a bad guy, but his plan is just pure evil!

Mabel: Hey, but we can still be makeover buddies, right? Wouldn't you like that?
Gideon: Really?
Mabel: No, not really! You were, like, attacking my brother, what the heck?!
Mabel to Gideon, Gravity Falls, in "The Hand that Rocks the Mabel"

Princess, you have gone and worked my last nerve! I have no other choice. You are so rotten, so despicable, so naughty, I'm putting you on the... PERMANENT! NAUGHTY! PLAQUE! Bum bum bummmmmmmmm!
Santa Claus, The Powerpuff Girls, "'Twas the Fight Before Christmas"

Wily's really gone over the edge this time!
Mega Man, Ruby Spears' Megaman

No matter what you've done, I always thought there was a spark of decency in you, Bart Simpson, but I was wrong. I never thought I'd say this to a child, but you are bad on the inside.
Edna Krabappel, The Simpsons

Kyle: Dude, I think it might be best for us to never piss Cartman off again.
Stan: Good call.
South Park, "Scott Tenorman Must Die," after you-know-what (Cartman grinding Tenorman's parents into chili and making him eat it while Radiohead mocks him. In case you didn't know.)

Pearl: Please! Tell me! How can I make you forgive me!?
Garnet: You can't! You lied to me! You need to learn that there are consequences to your actions!
Garnet to Pearl, Steven Universe, in "Friend Ship"

    Real Life 
All evils are equal when they are extreme.
Pierre Corneille

He can be charming. He can be generous. He can do the right thing. All of that somehow makes his 'evil' actions all the more despicable, because we know that there was the potential in there for him to be a better person. But sometimes the clichés are true: Hitler loved his dog. No human being (and by extension, no Cardassian) is one hundred percent pure evil. But there is a 'critical mass', if you will, where the dark deeds attributed to one person become so overwhelming that they swamp all the redeeming characteristics.
Ron D. Moore on Gul Dukat, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

This is a very important episode in the South Park library because it did definitely change Cartman. I mean, it took him from kind of a little shithead to probably the most evil kid in the world.
Trey Parker on Cartman's victory in "Scott Tenorman Must Die".

So all that really happened in this ending is that Anakin shows he's really just a murderous crazy person and he needs to be in a mental hospital. He even tries to choke pregnant Padme, the whole reason he turned to the Dark Side. If I were Obi-Wan, I'd definitely not look back on Anakin with any kinda reverence or longing for the 'good ol' days'. I would be uncomfortable talking about him, actually, and filled with regret that I didn't decapitate him when I had the chance.

There's a sort of...moral event horizon that unlikely heroes have. They need to have bad qualities in order to be considered an unlikely hero, but if they go too far, then you lose your audience and you're stuck with an unlikeable asshole for your protagonist. Whipping up your manchowder over a comatose girl in a hospital bed is not the mark of an unlikely hero. That's the mark of a repressed douchebag.
Bennett the Sage on the infamous "hospital scene" in The End of Evangelion

Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.

I'm all... I'm all for, um, forgiveness. I think forgiveness is a beautiful thing. But in terms of storytelling, I don't see how somebody could forgive someone who lit them on fire and killed their fucking parents!
— Jacob, BAD CREEPYPASTA: Jeff the Killer Vs. Michael Myers (2/2) note 

I've met some scumbags in my life, but every scumbag I've met (but Brett Keane) has a bottom. You figure out their scumbaggery and you go: 'Oh, okay. That's his deal.' Every time I think Brett Keane has hit bottom, he fucking mines his way into another chamber below it.

For the record: Chris Brown beat on a girl. Chris Brown beat on a girl. Chris Brown repeatedly punched a tiny 19-year-old girl in the face.
Todd in the Shadows, reviewing "I Can Transform Ya"

I guess if you have to top Santa Claus raping someone's mother, this is the way to go. I mean, if you HAVE to. And no one needs to do that, really.
Jared von Hindman, Head Injury Theater


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