Agree with moving to trivia, and requiring it to be Word of God, Word of Saint Paul too maybe, examples.
Fancasting should be dumped entirely from this trope and moved to an audience reaction or fanspeak page.
"Grandmaster Combat, son!"I agree with moving to Trivia. If people are already putting examples on Trivia subpages, that's usually a good sign that it's the kind of thing that should go there to begin with (compare what happened with Dummied Out not long after we closed the Trivia thread).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 27th 2021 at 9:53:13 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Move to Trivia.
Vi: Well, it's not like we're getting attacked by a giant wasp spider guardian! | Leif: Never combine those words ever again.This is definitely Trivia. to move
Everything about that page suggests behind the scenes situations, maybe an in-universe example here and there. Yes, it should be Trivia.
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (all editions) progress: 410/1089 (37.65%)Move to Trivia.
TV Tropes accidentally referenced me in relationship status???/j | My Troper WallMove to Trivia.
Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."Oh yay! I'm glad to see a thread for this, I was the one who originally added it to Tropes Needing TRS.
Move to trivia. The fancasting examples could be saved in a sandbox to help with creating a page for fancasting.
Not sure I follow. Examples please?
My bad, I was in a rush when typing that OP up — I meant it would include creators who agree with popular fancasting, like the Creator.Lindsay Ellis entry:
But not just something like "fans think Pedro Pascal should play Nils and Rosa Salazar should play Cora".
Edited by Synchronicity on Dec 28th 2021 at 9:47:42 AM
I thought this trope had always been trivia, so yeah, I definitely support the move.
Trivia
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure PurenessDefinitely a Trivia topic.
Calling in favor of making this Trivia.
Remember that it's only examples that need to be moved to Trivia/ subpages (with the exception for Creator/ page wicks, which are fine where they are). Inline wicks in examples for other items are fine on any page.
Edit: I indexed this under Trivia and posted a notice on the discussion page.
Edit: Added to TRS Wick Cleaning.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 30th 2021 at 7:52:34 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I was thinking to crowner this to finalize removing fancasting from the scope; would we need one?
Yes. I forgot about that earlier.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 30th 2021 at 7:58:24 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Crowner hooked for whether to trim the definition down to Word of God-derived examples. I unstarred the thread until this is sorted out.
Edit: Removed from TRS Wick Cleaning since I added it prematurely.
Edit: And I accidentally made a typo and misspelled "preclude" in the crowner. That's been fixed as well.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 30th 2021 at 8:13:51 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I could see fancasting as its own audience reaction, but I worry it would attract tropers' personal choices for fancasts. So even an audience reaction would probably need restrictions, like citations or making it Sugar Wiki.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.Calling in favor of forbidding fan casting and starring the thread. Feel free to Yard fan casting.
Edit: I fixed Laconic.Hypothetical Casting. Fortunately, it was as simple as changing two words.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 3rd 2022 at 7:43:41 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I went through the main page and removed all pure fancasting examples and those that lacked clarity. I haven't gone through HypotheticalCasting.Fan Works in depths, but from a quick skim it looks like it's all creator comments.
It's mostly creator confirmation and a few ZCE / general examples. The Pretty Cure one is fanon-wide for example.
Edited by mightymewtron on Jan 3rd 2022 at 6:25:09 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Crown Description:
Restrict to Word Of God usage (i.e., no purely fancasting examples)?
(Don't panic! I'm saying it's not a Main/ trope! :) )
Hypothetical Casting's description says it's about creators using lists of other creators to help visualize their characters. The Tropes Needing TRS entry reads as such:
The wick check bears this out. Though it is not marked as Trivia, most of the wicks (55% in objective pages + 13% in Trivia pages) explicitly refer to a creator's comments saying which other actors/voice actors they have envisioned playing/voicing their characters. (I also got the idea to soft-split between fanwork creators and "official" works, and shows a similar proportion for both.) Some users evidently already recognize this, as 26 wicks (10%) are already in Trivia, and a similar proportion was found in the wick check.
In addition, the fandom phenomenon of fancasting, or the fans envisioning a character as an actor, pops up in usage and in on-page examples, perhaps not helped by the line "It can also be part of a hypothetical discussion by fans of a work". This behavior is YMMV at best.
Here's a selection of on-page examples from the Comics folder to illustrate the difference.
Results:
I vote to move the thing to Trivia and restrict to Word of God usage (ie. no purely fancasting examples, as several examples are creators going "Hmm, that could work"). If we want to do something about the fancasting examples (a Popular Fancast audience reaction or a Fancasting Fan Speak page, for example), that can be done as well.
Wick check:
Fanworks and Fanwork Subpages
Not Fanworks
Edited by Synchronicity on Dec 27th 2021 at 4:25:00 AM