Trope Pantheon Restructure thread

Speaking of Demons, shouldn't she be having Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with Illidan Stormrage? Rias is a demon and Illidan has a grudge with demons.

edited 20th Sep '15 2:41:04 AM by MeeMaggot

This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.. ∩(·ω·)∩ WAIT, is this supposed to be the mistress herself?

You want to change her trope again?

OrOcHi HaS bEeN rElOcAtEd FrOm DoMiNiOnS tO rEpTiLeS

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

Here is my rework draft for the demolition duo. Give me suggestions for these guys.

Mr. "Jane Doe" and Tavish DeGroot, Co-Gods of Explosive weaponry (The Soldier and The Demoman respectively)

• Theme Song: The Art of War (For the Soldier) and Drunken Pipe Bomb (For the Demoman)
• Intermediate Gods
• Symbols: A rocket launcher with a folding shovel lying on top of it, a Red or Blue rocket on a yellow background(Soldier), and a sticky bomb over a bottle of scrumpy, or a Red or Blue stickybomb on a yellow background. (Demoman)
• Alignment: Both Chaotic Neutral
• Portfolios: SUPER LARGE HAM, Solving all their problems with explosives, rocket or sticky jumping, getting drunk out of their gourd (just Demoman on this one), ribs and tomato soup (just Soldier on this one), Not having much of common sense (Soldier, again)
• Followers: Anyone who loves blowing stuff up.
• Allies:
  • The Mercenaries of Team RED (and BLU) and an unexpected ally: The Scout, Heavy Weapons Guy, The Medic, Dell Conagher/The Engineer, The Sniper, Saxton Hale
  • For Mr. Doe: Shovel Knight, Captain Martin Walker, Colonel Roy Mustang, Alex Mason, Captain America, Commander Shepard, Raiden, Master Chief, Jim Raynor,
  • For Tavish DeGroot: Samurai Jack, Duke Nukem, Leonidas, Tiny Tina, Kamina, Marcus Kincaid, Dr. Boom, Merida,
  • For Both: The Techies, Teemo, Warhead, The Crimson Raiders, The Doom Guy, The MythBusters, Micheal Bay.
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: The Spy, The Pyro, Arturia Pendragon (for Tavish).
• Enemies: Gray Mann, Johann Schimdt/Red Skull, Wilhelm 'Deathshead' Strasse,
• Uneasy Rivalry: Guts and Kirigaya Kazuto (for Tavish), Jinx (for Doe).
• Opposes: Jake Conway (for Doe)
• Ascended after successfully blowing up the Pantheon's Main Gates. After the incident, the Court of the Gods were seeing who should take the mantle for Explosive Weaponry. However, upon evaluation of their skills, they decided to let both take the mantle instead. After the announcement was received, Tavish called for a beer run in Moe's Tavern along with Team RED/BLU to celebrate.
  • However, The Soldier is still bitter from their personal war a few years back. To make sure a large conflict wasn't possible, they decided to let Captain America do the consoling with him to make sure he could forgive Tavish for their personal war. It took 3 days for him to realize that the war was no longer necessary, and as a result became more friendly towards The Demoman.
• Right after their ascension, they decided to give a large explosion routine with The Techies and Teemo, who sees both of them as great friends. Alongside them is the War God Warhead who multiplied the explosive fun. And not only that, they were assisted by none other than Micheal Bay to even increase the power. Because of this, all of them formed the group called "The Explosive Extremists of the Pantheon".
• Upon being looked by Captain Martin Walker, he saw the duo's potential and decided to give them a position on the Alpha-Omega Force as the Demolition Squad. Jane Doe was honored, giving Walker a salute and a medal for his actions.
• For Tavish:
  • Seeing from his record as a knight, Arturia Pendragon decided to create a challenge for the Demoman to see if he really has a strength of a knight by a Joust Challenge. However, before the challenge started, The Demoman decided to equip a Chargin Targe and immediately charged straight to Arturia without warning. As a result, he won, but his mercenaries, including the Pyro were making signs that he was in big trouble.
    • And indeed he was, just 5 minutes after the fight, The Scout and Shirou Emiya saw Tavish running. However upon closer inspection, they saw an infuriated Arturia chasing him with a powered Excalibur. Luckily, he did not get hurt, but said that if he has a chance, he may have to start improving in his melee combat skills.
  • Tavish somehow hates other myths that are not from his home country, Scotland. In fact, once he hears a myth from another country, he either dismisses it or tries to bust the myth though sheer brute force. Normally the latter would only be done if said myth is related to swordsmen or combat.
    • This happened however when he heard the myths of "The Black Swordsman". He hunted the entire Pantheon to see who was the said Black Swordsman. However, he met up with Guts and Kirigaya Kazuto upon hearing that it was describing them. He challenged them to a fight against the duo but got curbstomped by them during the first 15 seconds. Just before the two swordsmen were able to move out, both of them were beheaded at the same time thanks to the Demoman's Chargin Targe and Eyelander. Needless to say, both sides were not amused and are willing to create a full-scale war should any of them piss each other off.
  • From the two, Tavish is also known for his extremely loud battle cries.. Just hearing "HAAAAAAAT'EM LADS" also solidifies that fact. Due to this, he has joined with Kamina and the Dai-Gurren for his Ham, and skills in demolition.
    • He became great friends with Merida since both of them are of Scottish blood and the fact that both have a very uneasy relationship when it comes to their parents. Often, they introduce to each other very sophisticated weapon skills such as Tavish teaching her about explosive arrows and and Merida showing the Demoman about archery.
  • He also became very good friends to Samurai Jack due to Tavish's similarities to Scotsman, Jack's scottish friend, minus being drunk. Because of this, the Demoman got influenced to join the GUAG as a result.
• For Mr. Doe:
  • Despite being unfit for regular military combat, The Soldier sees friendliness towards other military ranks within the Pantheon. The first one he befriended was Commander Shepard and Captain America. Upon hearing their tales of the Reapers and The Red Skull, he immediately gave both a salute of gratitude to both of them.
  • However, upon meeting with The Red Skull and Wilhelm 'Deathshead' Strasse, he immediately engaged the two and chased them for 4 days straight, dodged and survived many of The Red Skull's forces and Deathshead's Mecha. Both of them managed to escape but they were also impressed with the Soldier's combat skills and his extreme persistence to hunting them down.
    • When asked about the entire incident, The Soldier replied that not only do they remind him of the German's he fought before but he tells them that their status as Nazis has given a large disgrace to his comrade, The Medic. He won't forgive them for giving the Medic such title.
  • He has a LARGE grudge to disgraced member, Jake Conway namely due to being a soldier himself, and yet horrible due to his game giving him a Heroic BSoD. He went into the disgraces and decided to bury him with his shovel and pickaxe, leaving his head out in the soil. Before he left he told Jake this:

—>"You are a disgrace to that uniform. Therefore you don't deserve to be recognized, rebel scum."

• Jane Doe will have you know that he's done nothing but teleport bread for three days straight.
  • Also, he will have you know that he loves buckets.

• If you see Tavish running towards you with a grenade or sticky bomb launcher, run. If you see him charging towards you with a shield and a sword or a similar weapon, run faster. If he has a potato-masher when charging towards you, then you're not running fast enough. If he has a frying pan, you just lost.
  • Similarly, if Mr. Doe is running at you with a rocket launcher, especially if he just did a Rocket Jump, duck and cover. However, if he has a Black Box, be prepared to get a lot of medkits for it will be a long battle.

edited 20th Sep '15 6:17:20 AM by MeeMaggot

This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.. ∩(·ω·)∩ WAIT, is this supposed to be the mistress herself?

Tppr@ I only suggest that because I don't want to have another debate and or argument that's going to happen in the future.

Mee@ I honestly don't know.

You do realize you can just call them Soldier and Demoman, right?

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

If I recall, they have some of their names already revealed. I'd rather keep that way, though you will obviously criticize me for that.

This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.. ∩(·ω·)∩ WAIT, is this supposed to be the mistress herself?

So should I move Midora into Food?

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

Yes.

I'm fine.

edited 20th Sep '15 3:07:01 PM by WhirlRX

Assuming someone is here right now, I'm thinking of reworking The Laughing Man for Techno Wizard. The trope isn't taken as far as I can tell. What do you think?

Again, I'm going to repost this: Because Jean Grey-Summers's profile doesn't have a trope yet, can we give her the Co-Goddess of Comic Book Death?

I'm fine with that

@Rias So, she is getting a Title change again? What is she going to get anyway?

@Soldier/Demoman No mention of Demopan? DISSAPOINTED!

For the soldier should have friends that are mages given his old Roomate and Painis Cupcake should be a Superpowered Evil Side of him

edited 20th Sep '15 7:06:12 PM by fasoman1996

Uni cat

Risking the King or Cool Big Sis. The former holder is bareboned unless someone want to fix it. But that's a if she getting a title change.

edited 23rd Sep '15 8:36:44 AM by WhirlRX

Maybe add a mention of how she gets along with Kamen Rider Baron

This is all Zi-O's fault!

Reworking of William Birkin (the best baddie in Resident Evil, IMO)

Dr. William Birkin, God of Oddly Placed Eyes (Scholar Will, Birkin-Tyrant, Big Bad Billy, G, G-Type)

• Theme Songs:
  • As William:William Birkin's Theme
  • As 'G': The First Malformation of 'G', The Second Malformation of 'G', The Third Malformation of 'G'
• Lesser God as William; Intermediate God as G
• Symbols: A vial of the G-virus, his blood-stained Umbrella ID, and a Picture of his family
• Alignment: Lawful Evil as William, Chaotic Evil as G
• Those Two Bad Guys/Best Buds With: Albert Wesker 
• Additional Relationship: Sherry Birkin (his daughter)
• Portfolio:
  • As William: Hired by Umbrella At Age 15, Performs Horrific Experiments At Age 16, For Science!, Villainous Friendship, Created Wesker's Super Serum, Worked on the Progenitor and T-viruses, Created the G-Virus, Deceptive Pupil To Dr. Marcus, Assassinated Dr. Marcus And Stole His Research, Even Evil Has Loved Ones 
  • As 'G': One-Winged Angel, Healing Factor, Implacable Man, Recurring Boss, Sherry's Dad Is A Monster, Super-Strength, Carry A Big Length Of Pipe (1st form), Absurdly Sharp Bone Claws (2nd and 3rd forms) More Teeth than the Osmond Family (4th and 5th forms), Clipped-Wing Angel (5th form)
• Domains: Science, Virology
• High Priest: Challus Mercer
• Opposes: Alexia Ashford
• Enemies: Claire Redfield and Leon Kennedy (although he is somewhat thankful in ensuring Sherry's survival) HUNK, The Wolfpack, Rick Taylor/The Terror Mask, Issac Clarke
• Odd Friendship: with Walter White

The One Who Crosses The Sky In Flames

Should we update Vaarsuvius Profile, because 1. it is bare-boned. 2. To few Dragons hate V

Here is my opinion on how the Disgraces should change. Please respond to your thoughts

Subject A: Alice Cullen

• Current status: Condemned to the Royal Family
• Desire: Her removal from the Disgraces
• Justification
  • Strong as They Need to Be is not a Bad Writing Trope, or Writer Copout
  • If it is, DBZ, Superman ect would be guilty

Subject B: Roscoe P Coltrane

• Current status: Condemned to the Court of Twisted Perfection for Drivers Like Crazy
• Desire: His removal from the Disgraces
• Justification:
  • Drives Like Crazy, his main "crime", is not a scrappy, bad writing or even idiot-derived trope, which is what qualifies someone for the Disgraces
  • Little flavor text that makes him stand out as disgraced or hated

Subject C: Petr

• Current status: Condemned to Disgraces Other for Gratuitous Rape
• Desire: To be replaced by a better(well, worse) example of Gratuitous Rape
• Possible replacements: Dr Arthur Light of the DC Universe
• Reasoning:
  • Petr only appears at the end of the movie to rape. Since Identity Crisis, Dr Light's character is all about rape. In addition, The Cavern was screwed anyway, they messed up on a bigger scale when making Dr Light a gratuitous raper.

Subjects D: Fanfiction characters

• The Condemned: Marissa Amber Flores Picard Gordon, Stargleam, Ariana Black, Holly Potter, Count Logan(maybe), Leif Melyamos, The Prayer Warriors(again, maybe), Crystal Potter
• Current status: Condemned to various Disgrace houses
• Desire: To be replaced by fictional characters who better represent the tropes they represent
• Reasoning:
  • There is a horrible imbalance in the ascended/disgraced ratio of fanfiction characters. By replacing
  • There are older, more infamous examples in fiction elsewhere

I feel like that there are times when a trope what is not part of Bad Writing Index can be in Disgraces if the trope used is portrayed really badly. Like Strong as They Need to Be can used to an extend where it becomes wallbanger. Thouhg I guess Roscoe would be removed, though I really feel like Roscoe would really be there, if need be, for really bad case of Police Are Useless.

I don't precisely agree with you on the whole fanfic thing.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

Constructing Abyssals.

Standard Carrier Wo-Class, Goddess of Non-Standard Character Design/Commanding Staves (Black Wock Shooter, "Yorktown", Kisa-Wo-Gi)

• Lesser Goddess
• Symbol: Her jellyfish...demon...hat...thing...
• Theme Music: Battle the Enemy Task Force!
• Alignment: Neutral Evil
• Portfolio: Most Popular Enemy Unit, Staff of Authority, Badass Cape, Combat Stilettos, Sensual Spandex, Firing Abyssal Fighters to Attack, Humanoid Abomination, Glowing Eyes of Doom, Having Her Eye Shot Out, Possibly Being Kisaragi
• Domains: Villains, Creatures, Aliens(?), Sea, Resurrection (?)
• Followers: The Orcs, Nobodies
• Allies: Re-Class, Seaport Princess and the rest of the Abyssal Fleet, The Kraken, Ika Musume, Charlotte the Dessert Witch
• Enemies (on a bad day): Commander/"The Admiral", Naka, Yamato, Musashi, Akagi, Ooi, 1-19, Shimakaze, Ushio, Tenryuu and Tatsuta, Kitakami, Kisaragi (who might be her past self), Ikazuchi and Inazuma, Bismarck, Sendai, Aquaman, I-401 Iona, Shark, any human who tries to cross the waters, the Disgraces
• Mixed Relation: Davy Jones
• Originally hailed as the Avatar of Unintentionally Sympathetic Villains, which applies to most of the Abyssal Fleet, some gods really didn't feel bad for her. In fact, they were more interested on the higher ranking Abyssals like Northern Ocean Princess. Wo-class knew that it was a lost cause, so she willingly gave that to her.
  • Option 1: Still, some gods took note how much different she looks to other enemy units, simply looking like a woman with a really weird hat alongside many Humanoid Abominations. As such, she was able to stay.
  • Option 2: Still, some gods noticed how she seems to be using her cane to seemingly command her Abyssal Fighters into battle (some even say it also acts like a rifle). As such, she was able to say.
• The Wo-Class in the Pantheon used to be a generic one, until she was replaced by a different one; the one-eyed Wo-Class "Yorktown". Who might or might not be Kisaragi after being turned into an Abyssal.
• If you were to meet her on land, she would fall into the "Neutral" side of Neutral Evil, either not caring about you, or even being friendly. On water, on other hand, she will attack you on sight.
• She rarely speaks with any one, and even if she were to speak, the only thing she would say is "Wo". Though that doesn't mean she is incapable of speech
• Ika Musume is trying to recruit her to be part of her invasion force. She seems to have accepted, though no one is sure if she and Abyssal Fleet will actually help her. Though her relation with the Kraken is bit more solid.
  • However, she is less open about Davy Jones. Mainly because they and Fleet Girls simply sink, not drown. She herself also drowned, and the implication that Abyssals are sunk Fleet Girls, her being that of Kisaragi, might add to that.
• Some gods have started attributing bunch of false information given by others to Wo-Class, especially when it comes to military combat. However, when some of those info turn out to be true, people wonder if she has any effects on how probable the false info really is.
• The Disgraces once tried to appeal to the original Wo-Class in a plan to make the look sympathetic to the outside people. The following day Wo-Class Flagship II came with a small fleet (one of them being said to be the Re-Class in the Pantheon) in order to bombard the Disgraces as a way of saying "no".
• In really rare occasions, she can be seen looking like this◊. During this state, she can be seen with people in the "Schwarz" side.

Seaport Princess, Goddess of the Sideboob (Harbour Hime, Darwin-chan, Oppai, Great Busty Fortress, Wanko)

• Lesser Goddess, Intermediate Goddess if damaged enough
• Symbol: Her rigging
• Theme Music: Enemy Fleet, Spotted!
• Alignment: Neutral Evil on duty
• Portfolio: Sideboob, Boobs Of Steel, Undeathly Pallor, Hartman Hips, Large and Attractive, Horned Humanoid, Large Claws, Rapunzel Hair, White Hair, Black Heart (on duty), Humanoid Abomination, Gentle and Sensitive, Cool Big Sis, Popular Boss
• Domains: Boobs, Attire, Creatures, Aliens(?), Seaports
• Allies: Fellow Abyssal Fleet, (Wo-Class, Re-Class), The Kraken, Ika Musume,
  • Partner: Kingler
• Enemies (on a bad day): Commander/"The Admiral", Naka, Yamato, Musashi, Kisaragi, Ikazuchi and Inazuma, Bismarck, Akagi, Ooi, I-19, Shimakaze, Ushio, Tenryuu and Tatsuta, Kitakami, Sendai anyone who gets near her guarded area
• One of the leading members of Abyssal Fleet and a former high priestess for Wo-Class, she was admirably embarrassed when she ascended due of her costume sense, of all things, with her suit showing quite a bit of her sideboob.
  • She was even more embarrassed when she found out that some people find her monstrous traits like her horn and giant claws appealing.
• Unlike Wo-Class and Re-Class, she isn't actively looking for troubles on the job (she's a harbour, what did you think she can do?). However, anyone who gets near her tends to get bombarded by Abyssal Fighters. When not on duty, however, she is shy and soft-spoken, and is like a really big sister to a non-ascended Abyssal called Northern Ocean Princess. She is also capable of speaking normally.
• While she might be surprisingly weak, it would be wise not to bully her, as she can retaliate if pushed enough. And if that isn't enough, she seems to have a relative/sister called Seaport Water Demon, who is Seaport Princess, but bigger in every aspect. And whenever or not her scary appearance is there for a reason or not, no one wants to test her.
  • Though there are some gods who wonder if Water Demon is the truly evolved from of Princess or not.
• Supposedly not related to Yuugi Hoshiguma, even though the two do look similar, especially with their single horn and such.
  • Nero also mistook her to a girl called Passionlip. Though she cannot quite tell why.

edited 22nd Sep '15 9:21:24 AM by TPPR10

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

Wtf is the first one? It looks like she has a giant mutated headcrab.

Maybe mention that Gordon Freeman tried to smack her....hat because it looked like a Headcrab

Uni cat

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, can Jean Grey-Summers's profile the Co-Goddess of Comic Book Death as it doesn't have a trope yet? I already have 2 s.

@Clovis: About the Disgrace thing, I'm fine with letting Alice Cullen and Petr stay where they are now because:

A) Alice's example really abused this trope to the point that many "review" revolving her power came out of nowhere with no foreshadowing, such as the fact that she cannot see anything involve the werewolves. And that is just one example!

B) While Doctor Light example can be see that way, he never really that much of a threat when it came to you know... doing the deed. It was turned into more of a Running Gag about how he is such a joke villain but cannot help but bring up the one time he crossed the Moral Event Horizon and genuinely be a threat.

@fanfiction: If we were to change things up by removing fan-fiction characters from the Disgraces, then a good chunk of the Disgraces would need to be renovated.

One could suggest a separate Trope Pantheons for Fan-fiction characters, but that probably be too much to handle alongside the main Pantheon.

Fan-fiction is simply a term coined for fan stories based on original fiction; they are still as much fiction as actual fiction. What would truly qualify characters from such fiction to be fit for the Disgraces, on the other hand, is if those characters outright violate the original canon or original canonical characters to such an extent that they gain a certain infamy even outside their fandoms.

Anyway, with the Bleach crew, I think some needed trope are needed. DK has Orihime for Personality Power. But I think she can get Barrier Warrior. Also, Uryu can get Energy Bow.

edited 22nd Sep '15 7:12:11 PM by WhirlRX

OK Guys, I'm going to need your help. There are many earlier made gods in the Trope Pantheon who need either an update in editing, or need to outright get a new title. From what I understand, here are the current standards for ascending, giving us an idea of how to restructure

• An actual trope to be god of
• A link to their respective trope
  • Addendum: If it's a well-known subject that doesn't have a trope page/too large to be troped, then it is permitted so long as its not Too Rare To Trope
• Allies(unless their profile justifies their lack of such, which in that case put allies: none or an alternative)
• Enemies
  • Addendum: Real Life figures are exempt from requiring this rule, due to the Real People Respect Clause
  • Addendum the Second: If their character would make them unlikely to have genuine enemies, they are exempt. But think carefully
• Four flavor lines are the bare minimum, though five is highly preferable
• If they have a trope someone else has taken, and no other trope to themselves, you better justify it

Note: I need your help. I cannot re-edit them, based partly on the fact I do not know/care/am talented enough to upgrade every single god in the pantheon who fits

Let us tackle each house in order. First off, The Main House(there will be a lot, for the Grandfather Clause is quite the issue here):

• Main Page: No problems to me
• Desiccated Gods 1:
  • Deus Ex Machina and Diabolos Ex Machina(need allies and flavor lines)
  • The Entity(needs allies, flavor text and has a small portfolio)
  • Giygas(needs a bit more flavor text)
  • Kane(should have some enemies...maybe)
  • The Lord Of Nightmares(titles taken. Should be re-done as the Goddess of Powers That Be)
  • Nohamotyo(Purge with fire. No link for its trope, for its name, no enemies OR allies and only ONE line of flavor text. I think it should be deleted for utterly failing to serve to current standards)
  • Sauron(requires allies, enemies and more flavor text)
• Dessicated Gods 2
  • Adam Young(no trope link(though may be justified), allies, enemies or satisfying flavor text)
  • Autocthon, Bill Brasky, The Celestial Bureaucracy, Kyon, the Unconquered Sun(requires more flavor text)
  • Fred Rogers(warning: rant ahead. Look, I know he's the Sacred Cow, we all love him...but does he have to be glorified so much? 'sides, Chuck's the Memetic Badass and the Ultimate Destiny thing isn't in Mr Roger's character(which is why he's so respected))
  • The King of All Cosmos(needs allies, enemies and more flavor text)
  • Lain(just a little more flavor text, and I want to know why she's enemies to Dr Weil)
  • Luna(lack of enemies and enough flavor text)
  • Primus(needs allies)
  • The Snarl(lacks allies, enemies and a bit of flavor text)
  • Walter Cronkite(needs allies and more flavor text)
  • Zetta(needs allies, enemies, a bit more flavor text and most importantly an actual trope to be god over)
• Dessicated House 3: Actually, this is fine and perfectly within current standards of the Trope Pantheon

With my last breath, I cause the Grandfather Clause!

The thing with Nohamotyo is that, well, it is the trope! Though to be honest, aside of Trope-tan and Wiki Witch of The East, I think "trope-meta" deities (which include Report Sith) should be removed.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

Would it be alright to take the Hate Sink from that Potter character and give it to Red Skull. I think I remove his current trope.